Candace Owens - Farewell Show： LIVE With Ian Carroll

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, it's here. The last episode before I go on maternity leave. I'm

00:00:04.420 fortunately being joined by Ian Carroll. A lot, I feel like, happened over the weekend. I don't

00:00:09.620 know, Blake Lively trying to grift off of her mom's trauma. Ian did a great video speaking

00:00:14.420 about what's going on with Justin Bieber and the Hollywood Wars. Of course, obviously,

00:00:18.960 there's been a lot of blowback to Jordan Peterson over everything that he has said about psychopaths,

00:00:24.960 which just means everyone who disagrees with me is one. So we're going to jump right into it.

00:00:28.980 Welcome back to Candace.

00:00:45.020 Ian Carroll, welcome back.

00:00:46.980 Good to be back. Good to see you.

00:00:48.160 People are excited that you're going to be taking over for me.

00:00:50.400 Yeah, it's really humbling and I'm really glad. I'm proud to be doing it. And I'm actually

00:00:54.440 really excited about the stories that I'm kind of working on right now to get ready for it.

00:00:58.160 Yeah, you're like also like me where you just get on a rabbit hole and just start researching

00:01:02.180 and you're suddenly everywhere. I was watching a video that you did. I mean, we should we should

00:01:06.240 talk about this briefly because I think it's all kind of related to psychology being used on the

00:01:11.380 public, us being socially engineered and we're kind of noticing a lot of things at once and

00:01:17.520 particularly in Hollywood. It's kind of when somebody tries to get out, then we're suddenly

00:01:22.640 told that they're on drugs and they're crazy. And you did a video on Justin Bieber. So what was your

00:01:27.080 what is your take there?

00:01:28.660 I mean, we're still in the middle of whatever's happening to Justin. But I mean, I really was

00:01:33.200 building off of a lot of things that you had said and a lot of things that Brett had said.

00:01:37.080 And even if you don't have any inside information, just looking at the pattern in Hollywood,

00:01:41.260 the pattern with all these different stars and obviously they take a different tactic with each

00:01:45.060 different star based upon whatever they can exploit or whatever they can sort of smear or

00:01:50.100 slander. Like it was different with Michael than it was with Prince and Brittany and yay.

00:01:53.900 And now Justin, they are attacking what they can attack. And once Justin's close, you know,

00:02:01.020 circle started coming out and telling people what was really going on, it became very apparent

00:02:04.740 that the smear tactics being used to sort of pathologize Justin and to make his fans worried

00:02:11.700 about him and give him this kind of like manufactured crisis. It's the exact same pattern. And I mean,

00:02:16.820 it looks like the kind of thing that they're doing every time someone threatens them or someone that is

00:02:20.980 very powerful or important or influential tries to get away from them. And in some ways,

00:02:25.420 I think that the Justin one is almost more targeted because it's not, he's not going after the whole

00:02:30.060 industry. It really feels like this one is kind of Scooter specifically taking personal offense

00:02:34.740 to what's going on here. And Scooter kind of got trapped in the middle of this deal with Hybe.

00:02:39.860 So I think that it's sort of a case where you have a specific,

00:02:43.420 I don't want to say mobster, but you know, someone that's sort of feels like a mobster.

00:02:47.780 Let's discuss a bit about the deal with Hybe. So Scooter was hemorrhaging his client. Scooter's

00:02:52.720 very well known in the industry for not being, shall we say, the nicest guy to work with or for.

00:02:57.920 He's great if you're working for him and he and you're making him money and you're making him

00:03:01.880 like fame and success. But over and over, you know, artists throughout this, his career have left

00:03:07.760 him and said that he's great until he doesn't need you anymore. And then you're discarded.

00:03:11.520 Um, and he had lost all of his artists, including like Ariana Grande, for example,

00:03:15.800 the Taylor Swift drama. And Justin was like his last big name. And he sold his whole business,

00:03:21.860 ethical holdings to Hybe, which is the K-pop company, which is very, uh, like the Korean mafia

00:03:27.080 of music. Um, and I'm pretty sure that was in 2021 that predates this kind of justice world tour

00:03:32.900 fiasco where Justin's face was paralyzed and Justin, you know, incurred all this debt.

00:03:38.460 Um, so it kind of feels from my perspective that I'm, I'm assuming that Scooter kind of

00:03:43.520 saw the writing on the wall and was trying to move out of this position of managing talent

00:03:47.400 because no more talent was with him and into this executive role. And he managed that and

00:03:52.620 he sold what he had for a billion dollars to Hybe. And this company, Ithaca Holdings was

00:03:57.480 like making less than 200 million a year in revenue, I believe. So it's like, they're selling

00:04:02.380 it at this crazy high valuation. And presumably that's because it includes the future perpetual

00:04:07.920 rights to Justin Bieber and his brand.

00:04:10.020 Interesting. Okay. I didn't even look at this.

00:04:11.620 And so, yeah, so this Hybe sale, this Hybe deal is critical because it happens before the

00:04:16.100 Justice World Tour. Justin then goes on this crazy, more than a year long world tour where

00:04:20.960 he happens to get COVID at the start of it. And then he happens to get an injury that looks

00:04:24.700 an awful lot like a vaccine injury.

00:04:26.980 And his wife also had the, uh, yeah, she had a brain clot.

00:04:31.020 Exactly. And he winds up with half his face paralyzed, can't continue. Um, and so I'm,

00:04:37.400 I'm not super clear on all the specifics cause I don't have any like files or anything. It

00:04:40.940 was just what I was told about the situation. But, um, apparently the tour was booked out

00:04:46.100 on advances, which is not uncommon for the industry as far as I'm aware, but it was such

00:04:50.040 a big tour. We're talking hundreds of millions, at least tens of millions, if not hundreds of

00:04:53.840 millions of dollars advanced. And so when he's partway through this tour and then can't

00:04:57.760 continue, suddenly there's a whole bunch of debt that's been incurred. That's not getting

00:05:01.460 paid back. And obviously then Justin goes to his management and is like, so we have

00:05:05.760 insurance, right? This is no problem. We have insurance for this kind of a thing. And

00:05:08.920 allegedly what then was told to him is that, no, you broke your contract. So there is no

00:05:14.480 insurance payout here. You're, you actually have to cover this debt. And so Justin's

00:05:18.840 management, whether it was Scooter technically at the helm of this or his other managers that

00:05:23.700 were at the helm of this, that management team managed him in such a way that the most

00:05:28.300 popular pop star, like one of the most popular pop stars in the world got saddled with hundreds

00:05:33.260 of thousands of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of debt on a tour that they had mismanaged

00:05:37.760 and that he had had like all of these things reflect on the management and how poor their

00:05:43.400 management style is. And our things that if Scooter was really a good manager, this would

00:05:46.440 never happen to your artists because he's supposed to work for the artists. He's supposed

00:05:48.760 to be like the number one manager in the industry. So that all happens in the middle. And Justin

00:05:54.040 is trying to get out and Scooter's on the hook for a billion dollars worth of value. Like

00:05:57.920 he's promised a billion dollars worth of Justin Bieber's future to this Korean company, which

00:06:02.640 he's now on the board of. And so I feel like Scooter's in the lurch because suddenly Scooter

00:06:07.500 can't deliver on this billion dollar promise that he's made. And Justin's trying to escape

00:06:11.760 from that promise because he hates them all. And they're still trying to control him through

00:06:15.440 his other company. And so it's just, it feels to me like everyone is sort of trapped in

00:06:20.080 bad ideas that are sort of leveraged to the hilt in terms of how much money is involved

00:06:25.280 and how many promises are involved in all revolves around Justin continuing to produce music, which

00:06:30.080 like anyone who's had a kid or creative in their life knows that no creative dude like

00:06:34.380 Justin is going to be producing hit singles if he hates you and you're trying to control his

00:06:39.160 whole life. And so it feels like we're seeing not only these smear campaigns to try to get

00:06:43.540 him back in line coming from Scooter, but it also feels like we're seeing Justin kind

00:06:47.220 of acting out because he has no power. He's in secret litigation there. They won't let

00:06:51.180 him open a new clothing company. They won't let him like professes, you know, faith in

00:06:55.520 God or they're slandering that. So it's just, it's messy in every direction.

00:06:59.720 It's really interesting because it also makes you just revisit everybody in the past that

00:07:03.900 has kind of gone through a similar thing, a similar cycle. And what's really the tell is

00:07:08.460 just the way the paparazzi suddenly takes a picture of them and they're doing kind of

00:07:11.920 nothing. And then suddenly they're trying to spin a picture of any person. Like if

00:07:16.820 you just have like a resting face, miserable, exhausted, on drugs, this, that. And it's

00:07:22.700 like, you could take anybody out of context and say this. And especially someone like

00:07:26.760 Britney Spears, I kind of go back to the breakdown and how they just had the paparazzi

00:07:31.580 hounding her. And I wonder if she was similarly trying to take ownership of her life and trying

00:07:35.580 to leave because the reality is, is you can't get into these contracts as someone that is

00:07:40.520 that young. Even if your mom says like, yes, thumbs up, we can do this. And suddenly you

00:07:46.480 maybe perhaps want to relitigate that when you get older. And from what I heard from, and

00:07:52.060 I'll tell you exactly who it was actually, Courtney Love. I actually have had some conversations

00:07:55.700 with her and she was saying to me that publishing in Hollywood is just one big gang and they will

00:08:03.320 own all of the publishing rights one way or another. And I go back and I think about what

00:08:08.280 Michael Jackson said. I go back, I think about what Prince said. And I'm looking at Justin

00:08:11.520 Bieber and I'm like, is this what this is really about is you are literally not allowed

00:08:14.920 to take anything out of Hollywood with you when you go.

00:08:18.240 Absolutely. I mean, we know full well, not a secret that Hollywood and especially the music

00:08:23.600 industry was founded by the mob and the mafia and the music industry specifically. You can

00:08:30.820 like look into the exact mobsters that are famous for having been the sort of founders of

00:08:35.160 this model. And then you can look at the history of the industry and see how they've always treated

00:08:39.600 their artists this way. And they've always embezzled money in these ways and laundered money

00:08:42.620 in these ways. And there's no, there's no evidence that it ever stopped, but there is evidence that

00:08:46.940 the same tactics are still being used. And to the paparazzi thing, Justin just posted, he's been

00:08:52.200 doing it more and more, but he just posted on his Instagram a couple of days ago, a video of

00:08:55.960 himself trying to walk out of his place with Haley and the paparazzi, the way they are there.

00:09:00.480 And I can't help, but suspect like, is that kind of paparazzi attention always around every star

00:09:06.620 or is it only there when someone wants to smear you? Yeah. And they said, they said that they put

00:09:11.860 pressure on exactly. And my PR person said that he was like, nobody does paparazzi anymore. He's

00:09:16.920 like, it's just a different era. People have cell phones. And he's like, and so when you see that

00:09:20.180 it is because somebody is calling and paying someone that's not paparazzi. That's just stalking

00:09:25.020 someone and trying to drive them crazy. And yeah. And pretending it's because they're famous.

00:09:28.680 I think we have the video actually of what he posted onto his Instagram, Justin Bieber.

00:09:33.940 What's up?

00:09:37.140 He's trying to leave your house here.

00:09:40.680 Yeah. And Haley's right behind him. He's going to see her in just a second.

00:09:44.420 Watch out, guys. Watch out. Watch out.

00:09:45.740 He's crazy.

00:09:48.040 And if you look at these dudes' faces, they don't look like creatives. They don't really look like

00:09:52.880 the kind of people you'd expect to be paparazzi photographers.

00:09:55.680 Yo, watch out.

00:09:56.600 Very harassing.

00:09:57.440 Yeah. The idea is really just to drive people crazy because they can't get a moment of privacy

00:10:01.920 and to make them have that breakdown. It's interesting because we're actually,

00:10:05.720 I've got all these books that obviously I'm planning to read for my book club. And the one

00:10:09.100 that I'm really excited about, we're reading Hollywood Babylon. So we're talking about that

00:10:12.520 as people need to know.

00:10:13.780 If anyone's not in the book club, you should join. That book is crazy.

00:10:16.420 It's crazy about the founding of Hollywood, the gangs, the amount of people that they killed,

00:10:20.420 the amount of people that died. And the fact that the media today tries to debunk this book

00:10:24.000 is incredible because it tells you like the media has always, you learn in this book,

00:10:27.220 the media has always been a part of this organ, this gang organ, which we're obviously all very

00:10:31.320 much aware of. But the next book we're reading, and this kind of pivots and gets into, because

00:10:37.200 we're seeing it in politics as well, it's like this classification of a person as crazy if they

00:10:41.200 don't get in line. It happened to me last year. It's like I went from totally just being an amazing,

00:10:46.140 oh, she's got so much potential. She's amazing. To like, no, actually, she's suffering postpartum

00:10:51.360 psychosis. And the second book that we're reading is called The Assault on Truth. Fascinating book.

00:10:56.200 And Skylar, you can bring this up. We spoke about this in book club, but I'm going to give this

00:10:59.200 also to the public, written by this guy named Jeffrey Massone. Jeffrey Massone was this Harvard

00:11:04.460 graduate psychoanalyst, Jewish guy. And I'm telling you he's Jewish because it's relevant because

00:11:11.460 they can't just go, oh, he's anti-Semitic. And he got his dream job working as an assistant director

00:11:18.140 at the Sigmund Freud Archive Center. So he worked under Sigmund Freud. This is the father of modern

00:11:23.020 psychology, right? He worked under Anna Freud at the Sigmund Freud Archive Center, and he was next in

00:11:29.120 line to become the director. So Jeffrey said, you know what? I'm going to learn German so I can read

00:11:33.740 all of these papers that haven't been released to the public. It's an archive center. So they get access

00:11:37.400 to things that we weren't allowed to see. So he learns German. He's reading through Sigmund

00:11:41.380 Freud's work. And he suddenly realizes, like, for those of you that have never studied psychology,

00:11:45.740 you don't know a little bit about Sigmund Freud, if you're listening to this, the relevant portion

00:11:49.980 is he just did a lot of work about children and sex and kept basically when he first came out,

00:11:55.020 he said, like, you know, children are being molested by their parents. And then he did a complete 180

00:12:01.400 and like went back on his seduction theory and was like, actually, these kids are attracted to their

00:12:06.540 parents. And this was kind of one of his biggest things that he established. He was very interested in

00:12:10.020 children and sex. And he reached through his documents and he said, Sigmund Freud had proof

00:12:14.500 that these children were being molested by their parents. And he hid it and gaslit them and created

00:12:20.120 modern psychology in the psychoanalytic movement to gaslight people and to figure out how you could

00:12:25.800 gaslight people by just diagnosing them when they were telling the truth about something.

00:12:30.460 So this book, and you can go down to that section, Skylar, if you want.

00:12:34.920 It's wild. I never knew it was in a book I could buy and read.

00:12:37.540 He then, this guy, was thinking, once I ring the alarm on this, the entire, like, mainstream media

00:12:42.560 is going to want to cover the fact that Sigmund Freud was a fraud. And he was covering for a bunch

00:12:47.000 of parents who were, like, molesting their children. And it turned out that they all turned on him. He

00:12:51.900 ends up in, like, a 10-year lawsuit.

00:12:54.140 And this is recent, the 80s and 90s, it looks like, right?

00:12:56.020 Yeah, this guy, this guy is definitely still alive. Yeah. And so he asked, he was supposed

00:13:00.400 to succeed him as the director of the Sigmund Freud archives after his and Anna Freud's deaths.

00:13:05.980 And then he rings the alarm, he starts speaking to Anna, and he's like, everyone's going to be so

00:13:10.040 happy that I'm, like, ringing the alarm and saying that, actually, the father of modern psychology is

00:13:14.580 just the father of modern gaslighting. And these kids, he had actual clinical proof that these kids

00:13:19.100 had been molested. Crazy. Okay? And so what ends up happening is the entire mainstream media

00:13:23.900 smears him, libels him. He ends up in a 10-year defamation lawsuit as they try to smear him as,

00:13:30.580 like, a crazy person. And he's like, I just did everything right. And so to be able to bring this

00:13:35.580 book is so relevant because I always say you've got to go back to the beginning to understand these

00:13:39.940 tactics that they have been employing because Sigmund Freud, his family, the Bernays family, then

00:13:44.480 becomes the father of modern propaganda, Edward Bernays, who did the World War I, the World War II

00:13:50.060 propaganda to make Americans hate Germans, to make us eat breakfast. Like, I mean, tons of things

00:13:55.420 that Edward Bernays did. That was his nephew. And they still, and they also control today modern PR.

00:14:01.320 The biggest PR person in the world is, like, Matthew Freud, who's his, like, great-great-grandfather.

00:14:05.360 And so it's super important. And so when I see these tactics and you get to, like, now, obviously,

00:14:11.260 we should have to talk about, like, this random report from Jordan Peterson that, like, everyone

00:14:14.900 disagrees with me as a psychopath, you just go, like, okay, we're still, this is what the

00:14:19.380 psychology community actually, that's what he is. He's a professional psychologist. And when you

00:14:26.340 don't get what you want or the public isn't doing what you want, you're supposed to just

00:14:30.440 call them crazy and gaslight them.

00:14:32.920 And it's devilishly intelligent. It's such a smart tactic, especially in Hollywood and the music

00:14:38.520 industry, because you have all these people that you have every case to make that they

00:14:42.740 might be crazy. And some of them actually, like, obviously, like, when you go through

00:14:45.780 trauma, if you're an Epstein victim, or you go through trauma because you're a child star

00:14:49.580 and you were probably molested or drugs or whatever it is, then it's very easy to make

00:14:53.680 the case that they might be crazy. But time after time after time, you notice that despite

00:14:59.860 what their mental state might be, the FBI investigated Michael Jackson for 10 years and did not find

00:15:04.300 any evidence of the allegations, as one example, right? And he was very clearly a threat to the

00:15:08.340 music industry. So they keep pathologizing people over and over.

00:15:11.300 Yeah, and he was getting ownership.

00:15:12.440 Exactly.

00:15:12.740 I watched your video. Michael Jackson was actually getting ownership, owned the Beatles catalog,

00:15:19.040 and they just moved. And they were like, actually, he's a pedophile.

00:15:22.560 Yeah.

00:15:23.140 And the father of modern psychology taught this. So when you see that someone is majoring in

00:15:28.640 psychology, this is it's such an important book, because I know that obviously, you're signing

00:15:32.260 up for the major. I'm not accusing you of co-signing this, because we don't know the sources of

00:15:36.740 any of these things. We think of Sigmund Freud, and we just hear he's great. No, this guy was

00:15:40.860 a professional gaslighter in chief.

00:15:42.920 Well, to be fair, when I first heard about Sigmund Freud's, his whole theory in, I think,

00:15:47.780 middle school, it rang some bell. It was like, this is not right. This is weird. The whole

00:15:53.460 Oedipus Complex thing, it just does not pass the sniff test, even as a child, as an adult.

00:15:58.480 Nowhere in between does that pass the sniff test, if you're anywhere normal at all.

00:16:02.240 So it's kind of crazy that they got away with it, passing the sniff test for so long that

00:16:05.680 it's taught in like normal mainstream colleges and universities and community colleges. And

00:16:10.180 no one's asking any questions about this. That is pretty weird.

00:16:13.240 Yeah. And there's so much more that like about him, like Wilhelm Fleece, by the way,

00:16:17.660 we want to look up this guy, Wilhelm Fleece. Fleece is spelled F-L-E-I-S-S. This was Sigmund

00:16:23.360 Freud's best friend. And according to this guy, Jeffrey Maison, also his lover, you know,

00:16:30.480 and he, he similarly molested his son. And so he was seeing all of these people. Wilhelm

00:16:37.600 Fleece's son is Robert Fleece. And Robert Fleece came out and said that he was molested

00:16:41.940 by his father. So there was an entire psychoanalytic community of disgusting people. And they created

00:16:48.660 a social science because that's what psychology is. It's a social science to see if you could

00:16:54.020 gaslight people about their experiences. So it was the first thing that came to my mind

00:16:58.320 when I was like, is Jordan Peece just trying to gaslight me? And it produced a report and people

00:17:03.380 that were like, he didn't name names. He literally named my name, not only in the report for saying

00:17:09.480 Christ is king, which I'm like, you're going to pretend I became a Christian. My first book was

00:17:14.260 published in 2018. And I wrote about my biblical upbringing with my grandfather and included biblical

00:17:19.200 quotes all throughout. You're not going to gaslight me about my Christianity. I've declared

00:17:22.100 crisis king my entire life. But to see that method of someone who doesn't declare crisis

00:17:28.200 king believes in psychology, believes in his own, like, um, no, he doesn't even believe

00:17:34.180 in his own rhetoric. I mean, clean your room, Jordan. We've all seen the clip of Jordan's

00:17:38.180 room. Like, you know, raise your kids in a way that's like, there's, and I mean, I don't

00:17:43.480 even want to go into the other things that Jordan, like pathologizing you, the healthy Catholic

00:17:48.440 woman that's raising, you know, soon to be four kids versus pathologizing Jordan. It's

00:17:53.640 not an, it's not a comfortable conversation to have once you start looking at it, you

00:17:57.440 know, clearly. And it's so backwards that he would try to pathologize you in his shoes.

00:18:02.700 And what's crazy is like a psychopath is Ted Bundy. Yeah.

00:18:05.900 Like he's Candace Owens is Ted Bundy. Candace Owens is Jeffrey Dahmer. It's a bit of a stretch

00:18:11.300 and it's kind of funny and I don't care. And I'm pretty happy about this stuff. And I think

00:18:15.340 that's kind of one of the things, this newer movement, now that we have access to information

00:18:19.460 and we kind of know that all the experts are BS, it doesn't make me feel heavy. It makes

00:18:25.240 me feel light. Like we can stop believing in this burden of the idea of the expert. But

00:18:30.240 I wanted to show people this because it's important to see how often they do this, where

00:18:34.320 they just call us all psychopaths if we don't do what they want. Skylar, can you bring up the

00:18:38.980 article of Trump supporters being psychopaths, like female Trump supporters? And it's the exact

00:18:46.700 same language. Female Trump supporters exhibit slightly elevated subclinical psychopathy study

00:18:51.860 finds. And it goes into, again, the dark triad, the dark tetrad of traits that they have.

00:18:57.040 Then there's like the science direct one during COVID. I think I put a link in there. Let's check

00:19:01.600 this one out here too, where the COVID-19 prevention behavior is differentially motivated by primary

00:19:08.260 psychopathy, narcissism, and vulnerable dark triad traits. Like this is what they do. It's

00:19:15.120 like, if you don't do what we want you to do, we will accuse you of being a psychopath. And

00:19:19.820 it's like, dude, I just want to see my grandma during COVID. And I kind of like Trump. Like,

00:19:23.940 is it, am I a psycho? Like I'm not Ted Bundy.

00:19:26.420 Yeah. Or just like, I want to believe what Anthony Fauci himself said about masks three

00:19:32.140 months ago at the start of COVID. And now I just want to believe what he said about

00:19:37.180 herd immunity three months ago in official statements. And then suddenly it's the opposite.

00:19:42.540 But I'm a psychopath for all that. And I think that during COVID, we got a certain flavor of

00:19:47.460 getting over trust the experts. And a lot of people woke up to the fact that like these health

00:19:52.500 experts can be controlled. But now the Douglas Murray thing, the Jordan Peterson thing,

00:19:56.160 and everyone that's been in between there, I think it's kind of waking us up to always like,

00:20:00.380 oh, it's all experts. It's not just those ones. It's also those ones and also those ones. And it's

00:20:06.320 not just the ones in the White House or in, you know, that kind of field. It's also the ones that

00:20:11.540 are coming on our podcast. It's also the ones that are going out and doing media appearances.

00:20:15.400 And I think people are starting to wake up to the big picture.

00:20:18.380 And I think the big picture makes us ask questions about what is university really about,

00:20:23.420 right? What is university actually about? And it is a way to just indoctrinate people into these

00:20:31.100 various cults of understanding, you know, believing in their own expertise, not even knowing where

00:20:35.740 their expertise like originates from. And that's why I said going backwards and speaking about

00:20:40.900 Hollywood, reading these books, these old books, or, you know, reading this newer book from Jeffrey

00:20:45.500 Maison, where he kind of goes back and he just tells the truth. I just read Sigmund Freud's own

00:20:50.000 pieces of paper and in his own studies and his own journals and his own diaries. And he still got

00:20:55.900 gaslit and called all of these things and had to fight for his life and his reputation. And I feel

00:21:00.200 blessed. I don't know this guy. I haven't reached out, but that I can finally give a platform for

00:21:04.180 this man who fought such a noble fight to expose the entire field of psychology. But what are we to

00:21:09.360 think of the fact that they knew this and Sigmund Freud is still celebrated in our universities, Ian?

00:21:16.800 The thing that I think immediately is if you look at the timing there, it's like 1890s,

00:21:20.900 1900s, kind of like turn of the century, like the Gilded Age, the Industrial Revolution is peaked.

00:21:25.500 And it's, we're talking, that's the robber barons, you know, the federal reserve is about to be

00:21:29.300 founded. Like that's the JP Morgans of this world. That's the, if I'm not mistaken, the Carnegies and

00:21:34.260 the Vanderbilts. That is the era of sort of like this peak wealth disparate, like disparagement between

00:21:40.680 this upper class, this lower class, but very tight media control. Like, you know, most people are

00:21:45.960 still illiterate. Most people, there's certainly no, there's not TV or any kind of information

00:21:50.460 dissemination yet. So they existed in a world where you had these extremely wealthy elites doing Lord

00:21:56.400 knows what, that they would need people like Sigmund Freud explaining these things, right? And

00:22:00.300 they're getting on the train where the European trend of central banking and funding wars from both

00:22:05.980 sides and stuff was pretty well underway by 1900, but they hadn't yet gotten the Federal Reserve. So we're

00:22:11.340 in this era where the powerful elite of the world, these globalist elites of the world, like they

00:22:16.300 were at the top of their game and about to perform their greatest coup d'etat of all time, which was

00:22:20.860 the Federal Reserve. So I'm just looking at the timing there of when Freud kind of gave them this

00:22:25.840 nugget. And I'm not surprised that he's protected. I'm not surprised that he got built into all those

00:22:30.520 Ivy League institutions because they had so much power and control at that time. And it was a time

00:22:35.040 when they, like, if you look back in history, some, there's some eras like the Iran Contra era where the

00:22:39.780 deep state clearly fumbled the ball multiple times. But then there's certain eras where the

00:22:43.660 deep state, whatever groups are in there, clearly were nailing it. And like the 1900s to 1930s era

00:22:50.880 is, let's just say they were really on point. And what's interesting is that all of these perverts

00:22:56.740 actually came from the same region, like their origin stories. And I'm really pointing this out

00:23:01.600 in our Hollywood Babylon reading is like, as we keep speaking about these founders of Hollywood,

00:23:07.060 the founders of movies, the, you know, these founders of propaganda, they all came from like

00:23:12.700 the same region in Eastern Europe. And it was at a time where they were trying to overthrow Christian

00:23:17.780 empires. I mean, you and I spoke about this even with like LBJ's family, like LBJ's family,

00:23:22.100 they were the 1845ers left, you know, trying to overthrow Germany. It failed. I think it was the 1845

00:23:28.460 revolution. It might be the 1848 revolution actually of Germany. It was like all of these communists

00:23:34.400 were trying to overthrow these Christian empires. The Russian Tsar gets assassinated. And then all

00:23:39.080 of these Eastern European, um, I would say like, uh, I'm pretty sure Sigmund Freud was the kingdom

00:23:46.260 of Galicia. His family's from, he's a Galician Jew and they come over to America. And the kind of

00:23:50.820 the story that we're told is, oh, everyone just came with the clothes on their back and like made

00:23:53.840 it big in Hollywood or made it big in modern psychology. And I'm like, no, America was a young

00:23:58.140 country. We were very like susceptible to all of these things that like you just said that we

00:24:02.440 didn't understand, but there is so much more here that meets the eye. And it's only through

00:24:06.680 actually engaging and reading these books that would never become movies, these books that you

00:24:12.360 are not allowed to read, that you can truly understand like what's happened in this country,

00:24:16.840 because we all recognize that something's not right. And a huge piece of this is psychology.

00:24:21.020 What is the modern media? What was MKUltra? What, why, why did the CIA invest in journalists?

00:24:26.980 It's all about controlling our minds. And they think that all you need is an expert to get up there

00:24:31.860 and tell you something psychopathic or someone's crazy or someone, you know, Britney Spears needs

00:24:35.860 to go on a psych 5150 hold or Kanye's talking about Christ and he's got to go on a psych 5150

00:24:40.080 hold. And we need to be like, no, what was this person trying to say that you have suddenly made

00:24:45.520 me think they were totally fine for 20 years and suddenly like, no, Michael Jackson's like

00:24:50.100 wacko jacko. Yeah. And I mean, Hollywood Babylon is a perfect book to highlight that because they

00:24:55.240 don't really focus on where people are from, but they do clearly focus on the moral degradation

00:24:59.280 of America through Hollywood and how those Hollywood executives knew what they were doing

00:25:04.320 and we're doing it intentionally. And they were, it was illegal. Like the things that they were

00:25:07.920 publishing were so morally reprehensible to the culture that America used to have that they were

00:25:13.400 illegal. And they actually had to like slow walk it over time. And you can see in that book how

00:25:18.400 different American morals and virtue used to be and how it slowly was degraded through movies and music

00:25:24.260 and propaganda, psychology. And now we wind up at this world today where like, like on your Twitter

00:25:30.320 feed is the OnlyFans girl that the two OnlyFans girls, they're having this horrible competition that

00:25:35.720 I don't even want to talk about because I hate how people platform them. It's like just in our normal

00:25:39.520 lives all the time. But that is what we were speaking about last time about pornography being a

00:25:44.100 spiritual weapon. And this was literally imported over to America. And people need to understand that

00:25:49.100 as like Hollywood introduced these concepts and it was a war with this Christian culture that they

00:25:54.200 wanted to collapse. And I would say probably, you know, by the time you get to the 1960s is when

00:25:58.380 they really kind of started proliferating that pattern. And that's why that book Chaos is just

00:26:02.580 amazing because you realize they've always been into these weird sex cults. Even Hollywood Babylon

00:26:07.860 telling you that these directors who came from Germany would protect the sets and like make them have

00:26:14.160 these sexual orgies as they were creating films about Babylon, about, you know, Egypt. And so there

00:26:21.960 is sort of this underbelly of a demonic religion is really what I took away from this book because

00:26:30.260 and we talk about this in my book club a lot, but what did they believe in? What are you actually,

00:26:34.740 what are these people? This is, these aren't Abrahamic faiths. This is not Judaism.

00:26:38.340 I mean, they speak clearly about their hate for Christianity and their disdain for Christianity.

00:26:42.060 A lot of those communist revolutionaries in that 1900 era were explicit that their goal was to

00:26:47.080 overthrow Christian religion and Christian nations. And it was successful. I mean, the most

00:26:52.360 assassinations of like the king of Italy, I think it was Umberto I. He, the person who assassinated him

00:27:00.080 was motivated by Emma Goldman. I was speaking to you about her. That woman.

00:27:04.220 Whoa, rabbit hole.

00:27:05.160 Yeah, whole rabbit hole that flies under the radar that introduced feminism to America

00:27:09.240 by like controlling Margaret Sanger. Everything that we know about our history

00:27:13.860 is totally fake. And it really does make you wonder if we are living in the matrix. Like when you see

00:27:19.060 this stuff, you're like, wait, it is totally plausible. Nothing is real. The media is not real.

00:27:24.740 You know, Emmanuel Macron being president isn't real. They can just pull people up, pluck them,

00:27:29.340 make them leaders, give them degrees and make you think these people are experts. And your entire life

00:27:34.780 is being guided by them. And I'm like, I think we are living in like the matrix. Like this is totally

00:27:39.100 reality is not what it actually is. But people seem to be like waking up now suddenly.

00:27:43.380 Yeah, it's like this is the kind of report like these types of stories are the ones that do make

00:27:47.620 me genuine genuinely question. Is there some sort of Illuminati conspiracy going on here?

00:27:52.320 Because a lot of days it's easy for me to fall back into the like kind of mundane conspiracies of

00:27:56.540 like, yeah, that corporation is conspiring with that one and that that billionaire is conspiring

00:28:00.840 in that one thing. And all that does happen. But when you look at these bigger pictures,

00:28:05.520 like the gender ideology stuff, communism stuff, you know, the control of Hollywood and the music

00:28:12.160 industry, those are the places where it does really like there is actual evidence, not just

00:28:16.180 it's not just harebrained theories, like evidence. And when you look at it happening over and over and

00:28:21.020 over again, across many generations of musicians, many generations of music stars, or sorry, movie stars,

00:28:27.060 that is not the kind of thing that is evidence of one little conspiracy or group. That is the

00:28:32.660 evidence of a large control mechanism somehow operate like a cult or a mob or secret society,

00:28:41.740 like call it what you want.

00:28:42.900 Yeah, it's one of those things when I, before I got baptized Catholic, I just remember that one of

00:28:47.580 the priests said that to me in English. He was like a very ornery English priest. And he was like,

00:28:52.120 he literally said to me, like, you Americans know nothing about your own history. You know,

00:28:56.580 like every America was founded by Freemasons. And I was just like, and I'm still reading.

00:29:01.760 I'm still reading. And I don't know. There's actually a book that I'm reading right now that

00:29:05.760 I can't wait to get like to finish. It's called The Secret Founding of America. Already my mind is

00:29:12.280 blown. Like everything we even know about the Mayflower is we are just one big movie that we have been

00:29:18.020 watching. And if you don't do due diligence by yourself and you have the public education system

00:29:23.620 and you, the worst part is you think you're educated. So if you got all A's, you take pride

00:29:29.120 in the fact that you got a degree. And that's the problem with all of these degrees is that it sort of

00:29:35.360 artificially inflates your ego. It's like one of the first lines of attack is like, you don't even

00:29:39.960 have a degree or you don't even have, you know, he doesn't know anything. He's not an expert. And

00:29:43.400 the reason for that is because they have to keep people in that artificial bubble of thinking that

00:29:48.780 their degree means something. Because what the degree actually means is that you have completed

00:29:53.420 a course in your own miseducation. And it not only is your own miseducation, and we made you pay for

00:29:58.600 it. How completely crazy is that? Going into debt is different than paying for it. Create fake money

00:30:05.200 that didn't exist before that you don't have that you're going to be paying off for the next 20 years,

00:30:09.420 the rest of your life, whatever it is. And the psychology, you're going to be a failure if you don't go to

00:30:12.560 college. You don't go to college and learn about feminism and this and that.

00:30:16.920 But they will repackage your debt and collateralize it and then make money off it four ways till Sunday

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00:32:25.620 going because, you know, we'll just keep talking about all the things that we're not allowed to talk

00:32:29.100 about. And one of the things that drives me crazy is when they take out these clips out of context.

00:32:34.100 And even when they write the articles, they're like, Candace Owens says Sigmund Freud, I'm like,

00:32:38.240 Sigmund Freud, protected pedophiles. I'm like, I didn't say that. Like, the director of the Sigmund

00:32:43.460 Freud Archive Center said this, who worked under Anna Freud and read his work. And even just that little

00:32:50.040 piece of removing something, it tries to make us all sound like we're crazy. Bingo. Why do they do

00:32:57.080 this? Because they need people not to get to the source, not to get to the truth. But it's not working

00:33:02.180 right now. It's not. And it's the only thing they really seem to have in their arsenal is either

00:33:05.940 censorship, shut it all down, or try to play on that sort of brain barrier they've built into everyone

00:33:12.740 they've educated in terms of like, you can't listen to that person. They're a kook. Don't listen to

00:33:16.340 Candace. She's a psycho. But the problem is that they only have to hear you once in your original

00:33:21.420 form. And toward like, they just have to hear more than 15 seconds. And then suddenly the next 10

00:33:25.660 seconds, they go, wait a minute. She you didn't share that other part that she said where she gave

00:33:30.860 the source, right? And ironically, often people in our shoes are so much better about sharing our

00:33:36.260 sources, because it matters to us a because we care because it's the right thing to do. But B, because

00:33:41.020 our livelihoods are on the line. And if you don't share your sources, you're in big trouble.

00:33:45.080 Whereas the mainstream media rarely shares their sources. And often when they do like Politico is

00:33:49.640 famous, my favorite thing about Politico is they'll share their sources, and it'll be a link to other

00:33:53.360 Politico articles. And you'll just go in little Politico circles around from article to article

00:33:57.700 without any actual primary sources anywhere. It's all fluff. And so I say it's just all fluff. It's all

00:34:02.840 made up words. It's one big circle jerk. It's all them just saying, we're the experts. And we've just

00:34:07.060 said this. It's what do you have to do? You just have to make a report and say, I'm a doctor and I have

00:34:11.840 a PhD. And so I'm saying that this person's Ted Bundy. And the thing that really bothered me about

00:34:17.560 the psychopath classification is I'm going, wait a second, that indicates that I have violent

00:34:23.980 tendencies. Like, what have I done in my life for you to be able to just go out there and be like,

00:34:28.520 you know what, I'm just going to call this person violent. You know, this person could potentially

00:34:32.420 rise to violence because she's declaring that Christ is king. Completely nutty. But something that

00:34:38.100 I really loved was I really loved Tim Pool's response to this. And why I loved it is because

00:34:42.220 Tim Pool's like, you know, the guy in the beanie, right, who's running a podcast with like a skateboard

00:34:47.040 studio. And he just sees cuts right through the Jordan Peterson BS of pretending that we're all too

00:34:55.080 stupid to recognize what you're doing with now trying to diagnose people who simply disagree with

00:35:00.340 you, who have a different perspective than you. So let's just show that Tim Pool clip. I thought

00:35:04.440 it was actually pretty awesome. The problem is that four to five percent of the population,

00:35:10.640 something like that, is cluster B, that's the DSM five terms, histrionic, narcissistic,

00:35:18.680 antisocial, psychopathic, or they have, and they have dark tetrad traits. They're Machiavellian.

00:35:24.960 Oh, I'm sorry, dark tetrad. I said triad. I was wrong.

00:35:27.960 That's about four percent. Okay, so the question is, how do these people maneuver? And the answer

00:35:34.240 is they go to where the power is, and they adopt those ideas, and they put themselves even on the

00:35:39.600 forefront of that. But the ideas are completely irrelevant. All they're doing is they're the

00:35:44.240 Pharisees. They're the modern version of the Pharisees. They're the people who use God's name

00:35:48.800 in vain, right? Okay, let's pause real quick, because that's him basically saying Candace Owens,

00:35:54.120 okay? So I've got the tweet from, let me see if I can pull it up here. Here you go.

00:35:59.480 Jordan Peterson tweeted, Candace Owens is a true pharicycle pretender. She vociferously proclaims

00:36:04.240 her devotion to Christ for no other reason than to evaluate her perceived status. Her outrage is

00:36:08.100 designed not to shout the truth from the rooftops, build bridges, or make peace, but to subvert

00:36:12.920 Christianity itself with its new force to her own purposes. She is literally using God's name in

00:36:18.080 vain. There are few more unforgivable sins. Jordan Peterson says,

00:36:22.720 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites. You are like whitewashed tombs to appear beautiful

00:36:27.680 on the outside, but inside are full of dead men's bones and every kind of filth.

00:36:31.560 Whoa!

00:36:32.780 Yo.

00:36:33.880 Okay.

00:36:35.140 Oh, boy, Jordan.

00:36:36.260 This is some kind of, like, inter-factional beef.

00:36:40.240 When Jordan Peterson mentions the Cluster B, Dark Tetrad individuals, they go to where power

00:36:45.540 is. That's the corporate press right now. That's what all of that was. The reason why they're

00:36:51.760 marching in lockstep, the reason they're lying is because they're not there to seek truth,

00:36:54.720 they're there to seek power and influence. I work for some of these organizations. The

00:36:58.760 reason people get jobs there is because they want the platform to get followers. They want

00:37:02.080 to be famous. They don't, they tell you things like, I always wanted to be a muckraker, like

00:37:07.520 Nellie Bly. I wanted to be like her. You're like, oh, so you're looking for vanity and attention.

00:37:14.420 Okay, that's a bit unfair. If you want to emulate good behaviors, it's fine. But typically,

00:37:18.440 for a lot of these people, they are not saying they wanted to do the good work. They're saying

00:37:22.400 they wanted that position and reverence that came with it.

00:37:25.800 Yes, they proclaim moral virtue. Yes.

00:37:28.480 Doesn't matter whether it's right or left or Christian or Jewish or Islam.

00:37:32.440 They invade the idea space and then they use that, those ideas as false weapons to advance

00:37:40.680 their narcissistic advantage. Yes.

00:37:42.620 And so then you have the problem and the right's going to face this more and more particularly

00:37:47.300 because the left had to face it when they were in powers. Yes.

00:37:50.640 How do you identify the psychopathic parasites, 4% of the population, who are clothed in your

00:37:57.800 clothing? Not naming any names.

00:37:59.520 On your flags.

00:38:00.260 On your clothes.

00:38:01.540 No, did only just call Candace Owens a psychopathic parasite?

00:38:06.340 Come on.

00:38:06.560 Look, I tweeted it after this clip saying, who are you referring to? He called Candace Owens

00:38:13.280 a Pharisee, a pharicycle pretender to the Lord's name's in vain. He then does this segment,

00:38:18.620 this bit. They've got this document he put out. Yo, he's literally calling her a psychopathic

00:38:23.940 parasite.

00:38:27.500 Tim Pool just read on his rights right away. It's like, dude, what are you doing? Just have

00:38:33.040 the courage at least to just at me and call me a B-I-T-C-H. I can deal with it. I'm a big girl.

00:38:38.620 But like trying to dress it up in a rapport and use your like psychology degree to do it

00:38:43.460 all because you're upset because like I must've been working on this since I was a kid because

00:38:47.700 like I said, my first book just recounts the entire story of how my grandfather insisted

00:38:51.300 on us doing biblical study every morning at breakfast and how committed to his faith

00:38:55.840 he was. And so I must've been like so committed to this game that I started it when I was seven

00:39:00.940 years old with my granddad. That's why you're so good at it really is because I mean, in order to

00:39:05.060 be a real, what is it, pharicycle pretender parasite, you know, you got to get them started

00:39:10.980 young. And I just love how he uses so much jargony, jargony baloney to say, you know, essentially

00:39:19.660 what like, like I'm not saying that Jordan is doing that, but he sure is getting close to the sun

00:39:25.220 where we're having discussions with sources about what we're seeing in the news, the way that our

00:39:30.000 like journalists are supposed to do. And now we have a psychologist weaseling his way in there

00:39:35.320 to get into the discussion and say, Oh, stop talking. Like you're psycho. You're psycho.

00:39:39.820 You're a parasite. Shut it down. I have big words. It's like, okay, bro, you're not a part of this

00:39:44.440 discussion because we're talking about stuff over here with sources. Do you want to talk about the

00:39:47.960 facts? You want to call us a liar? Like, do you want to, do you want to discuss the evidence that

00:39:52.140 we're talking about or just call everybody names? And I'm by the way, and that's the thing is he's too

00:39:56.920 above us to just be like, you know what? She pissed me off. Take off your hoops and just

00:40:00.440 say some mean stuff to me. I can deal with that. Like, that's totally fine. Just don't dress this

00:40:03.720 up. Like you're above an ad hominid attack. And you've like thought about this clinically

00:40:07.480 and psychologically. Like it's just a different time. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just

00:40:12.220 a different time. Like the Gen Zers are not going to go for this. The millennials, everybody's

00:40:17.120 waking up and we're just, we can smell it as soon as you drop it. Like, that's why I love

00:40:20.920 Tim Pool just destroying this in a beanie. Like, bro, we saw your tweet like two weeks ago. Now

00:40:26.680 you're on a tour saying the same thing. And, but the only thing that Tim Pool gets wrong is he's

00:40:31.080 like, I don't know if this is some factional beef. It's not. There isn't any factional beef. I have

00:40:35.160 no, I, Jordan, if you are watching, you can come sit in this chair. I think it really just goes down

00:40:41.780 to me being able to see through it, you know? And I think that when people feel seen and people can,

00:40:47.720 oh, she just called me out for kind of like not living according to how I tell people to live,

00:40:52.000 it kind of makes people go into a bit of a spiral. But I don't have any beef. I want Jordan Peterson

00:40:56.300 to be the person that he writes about in his book. I want him to be an example to young men. We need

00:41:02.820 more examples to young men. It's not personal for me. It's just not personal for me.

00:41:07.660 And I think that a lot of these people that are, you know, continuing this gaslighting campaign,

00:41:13.900 both the ones in front of the screen and probably the ones behind the screen,

00:41:16.380 I think a lot of them are probably older people. And I think a lot of them don't understand a,

00:41:21.280 the exact power of the way social media really does spread and the way that people really do.

00:41:25.780 Like, I don't think they realize how much better the audience of young people is at reading comments

00:41:30.680 and at checking the like ratios and at checking the reposts and at like getting the whole side of

00:41:34.860 the store. I don't think they realize how much they're failing at this because they actually don't

00:41:38.940 know how to use the medium anywhere near as well as the audience does. And so they're just

00:41:44.000 continually blundering and blundering and blundering. And Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson are just

00:41:47.920 two examples, but they are stark examples of these sort of like kind of dinosaur-y neocons

00:41:53.680 trying these outdated tactics that really just make you look better.

00:41:57.480 I know. Thank you. I was like, I'm like, I'm not clothing anything. I can barely fit anything

00:42:00.780 right now. I'm due this week. I'm doing four days. I'm not trying to wear anybody else's clothes.

00:42:05.080 Okay.

00:42:05.300 And for like how much of a ride you've been on and how big you've blown up, you're like one of the

00:42:09.440 least narcissistic people in this entire industry. And I've met a lot of people in this industry by

00:42:13.080 now. And you know, a lot of them are great, but there are some narcissists in this industry and

00:42:16.700 you're definitely not one of them. You're super chill.

00:42:18.620 I just genuinely just want to have fun and talk about ideas with people on the internet. And I

00:42:23.140 feel so remarkably blessed. You know, I have a husband that loves me. I have children that I'm

00:42:27.100 literally obsessed with. I think they're just like the most adorable people in the world. And I want

00:42:30.460 people to find that happiness. And I really do think that it only comes from not looking to the

00:42:35.760 external world for approval. You know what I mean? Like actually knowing that I have things that can't be

00:42:40.340 taken away from me and to lay your head on the pillow every night and know that you're just

00:42:43.500 telling the truth. And if you get it wrong, but you have the humility to go back and I seen you do

00:42:47.480 this and I do this and I go, you know what? I said this and that was actually not right. So I want to

00:42:51.880 update that. And I'm just so happy that we're moving into that energy that like the mainstream

00:42:57.020 media is failing. The experts are failing and people are angry about Ian Carroll. Like I love when I

00:43:02.820 watch people go on like an Ian Carroll angry spiral because I'm like, he's so happy and he doesn't care

00:43:10.260 about this. He's going to keep making videos. You're literally being triggered by a guy whose

00:43:16.000 TikTok says, yeah, not an expert, but interested. Like you're interested. Yeah. And people appreciate

00:43:20.960 that. Just trying to learn stuff and have fun. And yeah, like Douglas Murray calling, like trying

00:43:25.580 to pose to Joe that I was an expert. My literal Twitter bio says not an expert in anything but

00:43:31.220 sarcasm. And you're so right that I'm it's it's water off your back. And you said something really

00:43:37.140 important that I want to highlight is that when you have like love in your human relationships in

00:43:42.600 your real life with real connections with real people that fill you up every day, the internet

00:43:48.460 is just, you know, a game that you play on your phone and it does not matter. And I think that

00:43:52.900 unfortunately America is so full of people without love in their immediate life, without real

00:43:57.920 connections, without marriages that are happy, without parental relationships that are happy,

00:44:01.100 that a lot of people actually are missing real human connection. And so the internet becomes

00:44:05.800 this stand in for human connection. But the internet is especially X is made to feed off

00:44:11.660 of hatred and anger and arguments. And the algorithm is really good at feeding you angry

00:44:16.560 arguments, too. And so so many people get turned into rage bots when they really are a good person

00:44:21.220 in their own heart. They just don't have anything filling their heart up to help them stay in

00:44:25.300 that energy. And that's why people need God. I really do. I think people need God. And it's

00:44:30.180 like you just need to fill yourself spiritually with something else. But like I said, it's been a

00:44:35.380 really nice pivot. I'm trying to make predictions for Hollywood because you and I were kind of

00:44:40.120 saying before we went live that there's so many pieces that are coming together at the exact same

00:44:44.740 time. And it's beautiful because it is bringing together the left and the right, which we never

00:44:48.700 thought was going to happen ever. And that's why I had been obsessed. And I know you don't know much

00:44:52.420 about it with this Blake Lively case. But what is at its core is really kind of the end of

00:44:57.480 Hollywood. It's realizing that the people that we put up on these platforms are not good people,

00:45:03.320 that these are the people that are egotistical and maniacal and just want to get their way

00:45:08.480 and care so much about that positive feedback from the audience. They're willing to do or say

00:45:12.620 anything. And if you probably know just a little bits about the Blake Lively case, but a little

00:45:18.100 bit. It was not a publishing thing, by the way. It's like just just wanted to destroy this guy,

00:45:22.100 Justin Baldoni, to take his movie. Anyways, she's been doing press for her next movie, which is a

00:45:28.720 simple favor, too. And because we got to watch and what was so unique about this case was we had a

00:45:35.020 woman who made an allegation being Blake. And if you read it, it sounds horrific. What she says was

00:45:39.400 done to her on set. You look at Justin Baldoni and you go, he must be like basically close to being a

00:45:45.780 rapist. Like if you just read her complaint, then they dropped the footage of the moment. That's what

00:45:51.320 that is. What is so unbelievable, Ian, is that we got to actually watch her, quote unquote,

00:45:55.560 harassed sexual harassment. And it was just the exact opposite of what she said happened. And that

00:46:01.120 is what has outraged people. It's because the New York Times gave us a vision. She gave us a vision.

00:46:06.240 And then we got to see the thing and people were very frustrated. So she recently appears at this

00:46:10.980 gala and over the weekends because she got honored by Time Gala for being a wonderful person for donating

00:46:18.320 to Black Lives Matter in 2019. It makes no sense, but a very good PR. Well spent money.

00:46:25.560 Everybody's got to burn. And so how she tries to get out of this PR is she brings her mom

00:46:30.520 to this Time Gala to and she gives a speech about how her mom was like sexually assaulted or raped.

00:46:37.860 Like it was just going to grip off of somebody else's incidents. And I just want to play a little

00:46:41.760 bit of her speech because I just didn't even know what to make of this PR move of like, OK,

00:46:45.760 I maybe got caught making stuff up. But let me tell you about what my mom lived through in the 80s.

00:46:49.680 Take a listen to this.

00:46:50.820 My mom never got justice from her work acquaintance who attempted to take her life

00:46:56.840 when she was the mother of three young kids years before I was born.

00:47:01.020 She has always credited her beating heart today with the story she heard from another woman

00:47:05.800 in a similar circumstance, speaking on the radio as my mom drove home one day,

00:47:11.120 entirely unaware of the future ahead in which she would call upon this critical moment to save her own

00:47:17.460 life. The woman painfully and graphically shared how she escaped. And because of hearing that woman

00:47:24.280 speak to her experience, instead of shutting down in fear and unfair shame, my mom is alive today.

00:47:32.220 She was saved by a woman whose name she'll never know. I am alive and standing here with you all today,

00:47:40.260 being honored because of a woman whose name I'll never know.

00:47:44.080 I am here and my mom is here because that woman not only survived, but she told others how.

00:47:55.140 Ian, your thoughts. This is just a PR move I've never seen. It's like I got caught with my pants

00:48:00.460 down lying. And so I'm just going to kind of grift off of and like, you know, I have obviously like

00:48:05.880 if that happened to her mother, that's terrible. It's awful. I'm glad her mother survived it.

00:48:09.140 But this is the PR move. Maybe the wrong strategy. If you get caught being a like fake rape accuser,

00:48:15.900 essentially, maybe don't go grifting off of other rape situations.

00:48:20.360 Like Jussie Smollett just is like, you know what? I got caught with this fake noose in the subway

00:48:24.900 sandwich. But let me tell you about my great uncle. He was the victim of racism.

00:48:29.860 He actually let me just hold his hand right here. I'm only here today to be the fake victim of

00:48:35.800 racism because my my great grandpappy was really a victim of racism. That's so bizarre.

00:48:41.660 It's bizarre. It's a bizarre PR move to be like, I'm just gonna grift off of somebody who actually

00:48:47.940 did survive something because I got caught with the subway sandwich and the noose in the Arctic,

00:48:52.740 Chicago weather. And my name's Jussie Smollett. But I know people who actually did get lynched or

00:48:59.660 I do have black friends. I do have black friends. It feels like that. Like it feels like I have black

00:49:06.240 friends kind of a moment here. And I just couldn't believe I'm like, this is what I mean. They don't

00:49:11.580 get that the public is not going for this. Like the public can just see through this again,

00:49:17.740 nothing personal against her mother. Like I'm sure her mother lived through all that and like that.

00:49:22.160 But but it's just what? Well, it's also like from a technical standpoint, it was kind of a confusing

00:49:27.760 telling of a story because if I heard her right, it was that her mom had heard an account of a

00:49:34.540 survivor. And then during an abuse situation, her mom was in that other accounting had inspired her

00:49:41.320 mom to it was a it was a confusing story a little bit. And so from like a storyteller's perspective is

00:49:46.020 that, you know, as we are people that communicate for a living, I I was a little lost on what actually

00:49:51.560 the story was and what the the gala was not about. Was the gala about rape at all?

00:49:56.440 Nope. The gala. She was being honored for giving money to this was also weird and confusing for giving

00:50:02.080 money to BLM when she gave it really as a hostage because people were mad at her because she got

00:50:07.120 married on a plantation.

00:50:08.440 Awkward.

00:50:08.840 And so she gave money to BLM and the woman was like, we're honoring her for time now.

00:50:15.120 And then she brought her mom and spoke. I mean, the entire thing is just the public is stupid.

00:50:20.760 We're going to get out of this one. Don't worry. And you're not like you. Let me tell you guys,

00:50:24.860 I don't care who you are. Just tell the truth. We are very clearly in the age of just tell the

00:50:31.600 effing truth. OK, we'll take it. Whatever it is, I swear this could have been done months ago.

00:50:37.020 All she had to do was be like, you know what? I was just I was tripping. I want Blake to just be

00:50:42.000 like, I was tripping. Yep. And I'd be like, I respect that. You know what I mean? Exactly.

00:50:46.000 I respect that. I was getting, you know, women, we get a little cray cray.

00:50:49.980 I mean, Brigitte McCrone would have done well to do the exact same thing. Listen, Janice,

00:50:53.920 I'm sorry. I was tripping. I know I kind of like married my nephew allegedly, but I was tripping.

00:51:00.180 That would still have been a better move than what they did.

00:51:03.960 I was tripping. I don't even know why I married my nephew like that. And I'd be like,

00:51:07.580 it's, you know, I'm glad you were at least here.

00:51:10.260 Whoopsie daisies.

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00:52:57.040 CANDICE today. Okay, Ian, we have to tell them now. We're already up to an hour, which

00:53:01.260 is crazy. I could talk to you forever. People want to know what the schedule is going to

00:53:04.140 be, when you're going to be taking over for me. They want to know when I'm having this

00:53:06.460 baby, when I'm going to be back. Guys, these babies-

00:53:09.140 The baby's already here, yo. You didn't hear?

00:53:10.440 Yeah, he's right here. He's right here.

00:53:12.360 You didn't tell him, CANDICE?

00:53:13.300 Guys, babies decide when they're going to come. I have no control over this. I'm not scheduling

00:53:17.020 an induction. I'm just going to let this little dude decide what he wants to do.

00:53:20.020 So, and hopefully, it's an easy birth, and so I'll be back whenever. But, Ian, they

00:53:25.400 want to know your schedule, what days you're going to be covering, and anything you can

00:53:29.960 tell us about the topics. You're not allowed to swear.

00:53:32.600 I can pull it off.

00:53:34.380 There's no swearing. Remember, I'm being a fake Christian, so, you know, my psychopathic

00:53:38.320 Christian era.

00:53:38.720 Don't worry, I can be a fake Christian too, Candice. I can do it. I mean, my fake earpiece

00:53:41.480 is falling out. So, I'm like, I need to pull out my calendar to make sure I get the dates

00:53:45.320 right here.

00:53:45.480 I think it's May 12th is when you start.

00:53:47.260 Yeah, May 12th is the first day I'll be here.

00:53:49.240 Do you say 10th, Skylar?

00:53:51.780 Yeah, yeah. May 12th is that Monday. And then we'll probably be doing three episodes a week.

00:53:56.980 And if I'm really crushing it and keeping up, because you work hard. You guys put out

00:54:00.260 a lot of shows. And I mean, it takes a lot of research and such. So, if we're crushing

00:54:03.800 three days a week, we might move up to four. But, you know, you set a high bar. And so,

00:54:07.860 then I'll be here until you need me to be here, right? And I've got a few other things.

00:54:12.120 I like it so much. I keep them here forever.

00:54:13.780 It's pretty sweet here in Nashville. Your team is awesome. But, yeah, I'm scheduled to

00:54:19.160 be here for up to eight weeks, give or take. And, you know, if something goes crazy, I'll

00:54:22.400 be here until you need me. And if you're ready to come back early, then you'll come back

00:54:25.440 early.

00:54:25.900 And if he has, like, a super exciting topic, I'm going to jump in, obviously, for random

00:54:29.640 stuff. I was telling him even I'm beginning to look into, like, the Idaho Four, Brian Koberger

00:54:34.160 stuff. So, he's a dangerous combination. I see why they hate us. I'm actually totally empathetic

00:54:39.760 about, you know, I'm like, you know what? We are just so interested.

00:54:42.700 It's rough being on the lying team.

00:54:43.600 Yeah, it is.

00:54:44.140 It's rough being on team lies.

00:54:45.680 Exactly. They're lying and they hate us for telling the truth. But I'm definitely going

00:54:49.920 to pop in occasionally. I'll be keeping up the book club. So, don't worry about any of

00:54:53.260 that. Guys, I'm going to get to some of your questions and comments that you guys are rolling

00:54:56.800 in before we get out of here. Brittany Douglas writes, happy early birthday, Candace. That's

00:55:01.180 right. Tomorrow is my birthday. I'm hoping it's also my birthday. So, let's hope that

00:55:08.040 this little guy just makes an appearance tomorrow on my birthday. I will be turning

00:55:11.680 36 years old. And this person writes, 89 babies are the best. That is true. But not Taylor

00:55:17.960 Swift. Until we see her text messages, we cannot confirm if the 99 babies are the best,

00:55:22.600 Ian. Uchicha Itachi, I love this, okay, writes, the question is, what will we do if Justin suddenly

00:55:29.320 dies? Man, you just went there. Uchicha just went there.

00:55:32.440 Yeah, I was trying not to get that dark in my episode about it.

00:55:34.960 They're like happy and light. No, we just, they need exposure.

00:55:38.200 And to be fair, I think that now that we're all reporting on it, I don't think they can

00:55:41.400 go there. Like, there is a certain element where, as media figures, we can run protection

00:55:45.060 for these people, and we do, and we should. That would be pretty obvious, Harley. Don't...

00:55:50.400 Harley Pasternak, if you're watching, we're not buying the bathtub story, okay?

00:55:56.380 Maybe don't send him away to La La Land.

00:55:58.800 It's all on no La La Land, okay? Or it's not going down, Harley. Harley, so chill out.

00:56:04.980 Sarah writes, Candace, tell them about the Netflix-Freud connection. Sarah's in the book

00:56:08.820 club. Also, the Freud family started Netflix.

00:56:12.420 Whoa.

00:56:12.980 Yeah, crazy. I'll get you the guy's name, actually, and I'll look that up.

00:56:15.300 Whoa, talk about mind control.

00:56:17.000 Yeah.

00:56:17.160 Holy moly.

00:56:18.040 Yeah, so it's all modern media, and it's been the same family. Oh, he's already pulled

00:56:23.140 it up. My producer's so much faster than me, so embarrassing. Mark Bernays Randolph. Yeah.

00:56:27.600 Wow.

00:56:28.400 He's the co-founder and the first CEO of Netflix, and he is from the Freud family. So, see there

00:56:34.220 it says, one of Randolph's paternal great-granduncles was psychoanalysis pioneer Sigmund Freud.

00:56:40.320 You can learn a lot in the early life section.

00:56:41.900 Yeah, and Edward Bernays was his great uncle. And so, this is what I'm trying to tell you.

00:56:46.040 It's like, they've been in control forever. And so, when you see these, you know, Netflix

00:56:50.360 is doing a deep dive on something, you really got to ask yourself, oh, well, are you guys

00:56:53.900 going to do a special on Sigmund Freud? We're going to go there. They got a lot of power

00:56:57.020 in media. They've always had power in media, and they've had power in terms of shaping our

00:57:00.760 minds. Sarah, love you from the book club. Bloop, that's a great name, too, writes, Candace,

00:57:06.420 oh, Candace's election is today. It's actually Canada.

00:57:11.120 Candace's election.

00:57:11.720 See, narcissistic, probably a psychopath. What are you going to do about it?

00:57:15.740 The triad just became me, and I just said that I was being elected. It wasn't me.

00:57:19.660 Sorry to keep the act up all the time, Candace.

00:57:21.620 Sorry, Canada's election. The Freudian slip.

00:57:26.920 Canada's election is today. Please pray for us. Because of your content, I've started to

00:57:30.120 notice the media push propaganda worldwide. Side note, I'm a black woman who used to hate

00:57:34.700 you, and now I love you. I love you, too, girl. I love you, too. Don't worry. It's okay.

00:57:38.740 I say I'm an acquired taste. I get it. I feel like I was even that way for my sisters. I don't

00:57:42.720 think they were sure about me until, like, I was, like, eight, you know?

00:57:45.240 Especially early on, yeah.

00:57:46.340 Yeah, they were like, mm-hmm.

00:57:47.000 I mean, you were saying some uncomfortable truths all along.

00:57:49.100 Yeah, I'm acquired. S writes, Candace, can't watch as exams are coming for me. Have an amazing

00:57:54.860 leave and hope everything is blessed. I hope you know you guys have woken up the masses that

00:57:58.680 people are aware of these world leaders and blind extremist ideologies. Yes, yeah, I mean,

00:58:03.980 TikTokers going through grocery aisles, which is how Ian started, which is why I really enjoy

00:58:08.580 the conspiracy theories about him. I'm like, guys, no, he's been around. He's just been

00:58:11.420 in grocery aisles.

00:58:12.520 Yeah, I've been looking at all the tampons, trying to figure out who owns the tampons and

00:58:15.600 the Froot Loops.

00:58:16.480 Yeah, he's been doing work. You need to go back and look through his catalog, because it's

00:58:20.020 actually super interesting. I've just banned red dyes from my house. I'm getting a little

00:58:24.140 cray-cray about it, yeah.

00:58:26.680 Oracle writes, any thoughts on the death of the Pope during the Passover sacrificial hour?

00:58:32.580 I think there's a lot of deep meaning in a lot of the things that are happening.

00:58:36.060 Everything change respectfully, obviously, like pray for his soul. I genuinely just, I am just

00:58:43.680 a shift. There's just vibes or I just feel like there has just been a real shift, is what

00:58:48.680 I would say, about the Pope passing. Misty writes, all of society is set up to separate

00:58:53.960 us from nature and God. Our homes, jobs, clothes, and food are all synthetic. Very few jobs are

00:58:58.500 absolutely essential to keep society going. Everything else is entertainment to distract from

00:59:03.320 our God-given life.

00:59:05.640 Yep.

00:59:06.060 Not only to distract you from your God-given life, but to fill up the hole in your soul

00:59:11.600 that you're no longer God-given, like no longer godly life leaves you with. It's like sell

00:59:17.140 you this drug or this distraction or this gluttony or whatever it is, you know?

00:59:22.280 Yeah, people really loved when you were speaking about pornography the last time you were on

00:59:25.940 here. If you want to reiterate what you were saying about-

00:59:28.040 It's an epidemic. It's an epidemic in our culture. And the thing about it is that everyone's

00:59:32.640 uncomfortable to talk about it. Because like 98% of men, I don't know, I'm making up statistics,

00:59:36.980 but like basically all men are in some way watching it and don't, and like, you know, a huge portion of

00:59:43.500 them are in some way addicted to it and don't want to talk about it. And then it's uncomfortable

00:59:47.220 because like no one's proud of it really. And if you are proud of it, maybe you should examine

00:59:52.400 that. Um, and women don't really want to talk, like no, no one's really in a position to bring

00:59:57.280 it up. And so the men on the internet kind of hat, like, like someone's got to bring it up. Right.

01:00:03.220 And, and it's, it's, it's awkward for everyone that should be talking about it. And it's only not

01:00:09.700 awkward for the people that are like in it that are part of the problem. So it's, I think it's just

01:00:15.160 inherently a conversation that we're going to have to have because now parents are realizing

01:00:18.600 like how ingrained this is in their children's digital space, in their media space. And if you

01:00:25.120 don't start talking about it, if we don't start talking about how to protect our kids from it,

01:00:29.040 I don't want to know where our world goes. It's getting everyone addicted to something early.

01:00:34.160 And pornography is a big piece of that puzzle because what is pornography to a 10 year old boy,

01:00:39.800 right. Is, is like just watching a woman holding a Gucci bag with her boobs out.

01:00:43.960 It's one of the ones you can get young men addicted to without having to put something like

01:00:48.320 in their mouth or in their body or in their clothes. Like what it's, you just have to put

01:00:52.240 a billboard up and suddenly, you know, put an advertisement on, put it in their Instagram reel.

01:00:56.100 And every single boy is forced to contend with, Oh, I can just get free this in my phone infinitely

01:01:02.800 forever. And especially that that's like a biological need that arises out of your own

01:01:08.140 hormonal structure. And if you don't have a moral and, and like, it's really a religious

01:01:13.920 framework to protect you from that sin, for lack of a better word, that, that desire,

01:01:18.700 then you're going to fall into that trap somehow. And it's only a bit more effective. We have robots

01:01:22.780 coming, we have AI generation coming. We, and so like we're in a very disconnected world and that

01:01:28.280 just spells disconnection all the way to the max. And it's, it's really tragic.

01:01:31.840 You know, Michael E. Jones, who was on the ADL's list for being Adolf Hitler, he was on,

01:01:36.360 he was Adolf Hitler before I was Adolf Hitler. So he's like old school.

01:01:39.100 There's no G for everything.

01:01:39.880 Exactly. But he did a whole book on the origins of pornography, talks a lot about the French

01:01:43.900 revolution, even where the word sadism comes from. And it's fascinating to learn that and to know

01:01:49.660 that again, we don't know the origin stories. We just know that it's here. So I don't remember what

01:01:54.320 the name of his book is because I'm very bad with book titles. Libido Dominandi. Yes. Latin.

01:02:00.780 Um, and that is a good place to start as a man, I think. And I end woman, by the way,

01:02:06.920 women are addicted to porn too. Yeah. Um, but it's just a different kind of temptation. It's

01:02:11.120 a different kind of grappling. Right. And it's, and like men, all men growing up, you have to deal

01:02:17.360 with that in your life. Your kids, your young boys are going to have to deal with it. And you as a man

01:02:21.180 have to deal with that. You have to figure out, are you going to let this trap, like let this thing

01:02:26.140 take part of your sovereignty away from you and part of your masculinity away from you? Or are you

01:02:30.300 going to realize that it's your responsibility to decide your relationship with it instead of

01:02:33.920 letting it decide its relationship with you? And it's just, it's, it's not easy. Like everyone

01:02:37.960 gets it. It's, it's not easy. I mean, just have to start talking about it too. Like it's not easy

01:02:41.900 and you just got to try to overcome it. It is one of the weapons that, you know, psychological weapons

01:02:46.860 that have been intentionally afflicted on American society.

01:02:49.580 But as more men deal with that, that will help free young women from thinking that this is what

01:02:54.560 every man wants. And it'll help free young girls from growing up in a world where they think

01:02:57.860 they have to sell their bodies in order to be high quality. Because nowadays we have this world

01:03:01.100 full of men that don't want to address their side of that equation, but they do want to like,

01:03:04.860 I want to marry some like trad wife girl that's like perfect and has never had sex with any other

01:03:08.580 men. Like, bro, are you living up to that standard right now too? That's the conversation. None of

01:03:13.160 these like, you know, manosphere people want to have is like, are you the trad husband that goes with

01:03:17.800 that trad wife? That's such a great, it's such a great thought. I love that. See, that's just why

01:03:21.920 I'm sad to leave. I can't believe this is my farewell episode. It makes now I'm just sad and

01:03:26.240 crying. You'll be back. So long, farewell, adieu, adieu, adieu. Last person says, thank God you're

01:03:34.440 looking into the Idaho 4 case. It has never made any sense. We'll miss you, Candice. I know that is

01:03:39.000 going to be just like, moms, we're just, we, you know what? Because we were just so shaken by the

01:03:44.400 this could happen on a college campus. And then they gave us like no details and nothing really made

01:03:47.880 sense. They kind of locked it down and somebody involved reached out to me and I will be looking

01:03:53.280 into that while I am on maternity leave. And if I find anything, I'll jump in and I'll get Ian down

01:03:57.720 the rabbit hole. Yeah, I'm just going to be under, we're just going to be in rabbit holes. Like we're

01:04:02.440 just going to be in backyards, like jumping into holes. This podcast is just going to become like

01:04:07.420 this. We're going to make some people mad. Yeah. By the way, Ian, I need to link guys. He also,

01:04:13.100 while he's doing this, we will be driving traffic to his YouTube channel because he is just starting

01:04:17.640 his YouTube channel and he does not have nearly as many followers as he should have. So every

01:04:20.980 episode we'll be linking it. I will also put Ian's YouTube channel in this episode as well. Go support

01:04:27.200 him, go support independent thinkers. The rumors about him aren't true. He's actually pretty broke.

01:04:31.720 We're not funded by Qatar. I'm trying to be, I would like to do like a Qatari airline commercial

01:04:36.640 or something. I don't know if you're watching. I don't know. I get these accusations. Nope. It's none of

01:04:42.500 that's true. So let's help and support Ian in any capacity. And so check that out on the link.

01:04:46.600 And then you guys, I also want to remind you, I will be on MNECT, M-I-N-N-E-C-T. If you want to

01:04:52.760 send me a message, I can answer you. That's something that I will be doing on maternity

01:04:55.640 leave. Also, the book club is the next way that you can reach me. Obviously, we will still be

01:04:59.780 keeping that up. CandaceOwens.com, sign up for the book club. The books are amazing. They will terrify

01:05:04.200 you, but you will also be more well-rounded. And I think just impervious to the media because you will

01:05:08.500 know exactly what it is, which is one big game of demonic psychology. Ian, anything that you would

01:05:13.740 like to add before we are out of here? No, I just really appreciate it. And I'm just praying for

01:05:17.840 a healthy birth for you and everything to go smooth. And I'll be back here to- Praying, you psychopath.

01:05:23.160 I know, right? All these Pharisees out here. And all y'all, I'll see you guys in a couple of weeks.

01:05:28.880 Once I'm done in Austin, I'll come out here and we'll have a good time.

01:05:31.080 So fun. 42,000 watching live. Thank you guys so much for joining us. And we will see you,

01:05:36.360 he will see you on May 12th.

Candace Owens - April 28, 2025

Farewell Show： LIVE With Ian Carroll ｜ Candace Ep 183

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