In this special episode of Candice, Bishop Schneider shares his conversion story and how he became a Catholic. Bishop Schneider grew up in the Soviet Union and grew up as a student of history, but he never knew much about the history of his home country, until he was forced to travel to the West. In this episode, he shares his story and the lessons he learned from his time in the USSR. He also shares some of the methods used by Soviet leaders to keep their own people in line, and the methods they used to crush freedom and freedom in the Western world. He shares his experience in the gulags, and how they used torture and death as political tools to keep order in a system that was supposed to be one of the freest countries in the world, but was actually a system based on fear and oppression, and a system which was designed to keep people confined in concentration camps and forced to convert to the religion of Stalin's communist ideology. Thank you Bishop Schneider for sharing his story, and for being willing to share it with us! Stay safe out there, and stay safe in the streets of Toronto. Metrolinx and Crosslink! Please be alert as trains can pass at any time on the tracks. Remember, be careful along our tracks, and only make left turns where it s safe to do so! Be alert, be aware, and be aware! - Stay safe, and Stay safe! . - Candice (Candice) Candice's bio: Candice ( ) is a Canadian Catholic and a Canadian living in Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, Canada. She is a Catholic, an Anglican and a practicing Anglican, a lay leader, a student, a priest, a reformed Catholic, and an author, a feminist, a humanist and a reformed Anglican. She has a passion for the Catholic, a writer and a lover of the arts and a friend of the culture and a Christian, and she loves to talk about all things Catholic, especially about the Catholic Church, and her time in general, and especially about history and the Catholic church. (and her love of the Catholic culture and the church, and so much more. ...and she's here to share her conversion story about it all! ... I hope you enjoy this episode of the podcast, you'll find it inspiring and learn something new about what it means to be a Catholic in this episode!
00:00:39.780You guys are definitely sensing that there has been a change in me over the last year, and there certainly has been a change in me in the last year.
00:00:45.980And while I'm still not fully there yet and ready to talk about that story, I can tell you for sure that the expression that to become a student of history means to become a Catholic is something that I have taken to heart and that I believe to be real.
00:00:59.400There are a lot of aspects right now of people recognizing that we are in this spiritual battle.
00:01:04.440We can't make sense of a lot of the things that are happening here in the West.
00:01:07.320Why would people want to implement the sorts of changes that we're seeing?
00:01:11.240Why does it feel like we're fighting for our children from the state?
00:01:14.500How did we get into this predicament so quickly?
00:03:43.620And it was imposed in my time in the Soviet Union by all means, of television, of radio, of newspapers,
00:03:52.600all was in the hands of only one thinking.
00:03:55.100And when you dared to decline from this line, when you were suddenly declared by the system, Soviet Union, as an enemy.
00:04:12.960So, as a dangerous person, even they had said, maybe you have, you are a spy of the Western world.
00:04:22.180You are making conspiracy, even this, this concept of conspiracy was very much used in my time by the Soviet Union dictators to simply intimidate people and to shut them down in, in the public.
00:04:47.020And so, I can recognize, especially now, in our current time, in the Western world, a growing, increasing elements of a true dictatorship,
00:05:04.400and not only dictatorship, but totalitarian system, and an intolerance.
00:05:11.020By the name of tolerance and freedom, we are now living in the Western world to be oppressed, to be declared hate, speech, or enemies, or conspiracy people.
00:05:31.220So, these same concepts, the same concepts, the same methods were used since Lenin, Stalin, and all the time of the Soviet Union.
00:05:48.000Because, I mean, I mean, in my time, Soviet Union, they proclaimed always, we are the most freedom, we have the greatest freedom in the world, Soviet Union.
00:06:01.540And full with gulags, it means camps of concentration.
00:06:07.840And in the same time, they proclaimed all the day, we are the freest country in the world.
00:06:15.060But, for example, when Stalin built up the most horrible gulags, where my grandfather was also imprisoned,
00:06:28.360he made, he asked to compose a song, which must, had to be sung in all schools, universities, and workplaces.
00:06:39.520And this song, well, it was beautiful music, but the text was saying,
00:06:49.040Soviet Union, the communism, is such a beautiful place.
00:06:54.640And I do not know another country where people can breathe so freely.
00:07:00.860Full with camp of concentrations, people labeled and targeted as enemies, as conspiracy, and so on.
00:07:10.980So, therefore, we have to be aware, in our day, in our Western society, and of these existing already methods of Soviet dictatorship,
00:07:24.560communist dictatorship, which already infiltrated so much our public life, political life, social life in the Western countries.
00:07:35.220You know, when I look back on my public education, and I realize that I took years and years of history, and I learned nothing.
00:07:44.200And I realize that within American culture, we have almost a lack of reverence for history.
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00:19:02.220You know, I had sort of an unusual journey to the Catholic faith, and I went through politics.
00:19:09.600And it's funny to realize all of these stops.
00:19:12.680I did arrive as one of the last destinations, one of the last stops.
00:19:17.300I realized exactly what you're speaking about.
00:19:19.060I went, oh, the left, because I was kind of looking at this, didn't see the big picture,
00:19:24.320which really, you know, God versus Satan.
00:19:26.940But I would always say the left, if you really want to understand the chaos of everything that's going on, what connects it all, it actually isn't chaotic.
00:19:36.740It's methodical, and it's an attack on the family, you know, looking at why they're trying to pull parents away from their children.
00:19:43.320And you're looking at why they're pushing these themes of transgenderism and, you know, these kids going through these procedures,
00:19:51.160which would render them unable to produce families into the future.
00:19:55.320Virtually everything, even climate change, which has become something of its own religion, they encourage these kids.
00:20:01.580They say, well, you know, the planet's not going to be here in 10 years, so it would be selfish for you to have a family.
00:20:06.560And these kids speak about how they're going to be responsible and not have kids when they get older.
00:20:10.960So I see all of those themes, and when you revisit it, you look at what happened in Russia,
00:20:18.220and I do believe that, you know, Alexander Solzhenitsyn asks this question,
00:20:22.940what happened to these administrators of this great evil?
00:24:57.840We had also, in midst of the horrible situation, we had also, God helped his servants.
00:25:09.440And even priests were able to celebrate Mass secretly and God protected them.
00:25:19.660It's hard to even comprehend this sort of bravery.
00:25:23.920You know, I always think it's quite strange when people think that it's bravery to speak out on a podcast because when you weigh it against the bravery of people who were quite literally putting their lives on the line to stand up for their faith, I just think these are stories that need to be told.
00:25:41.500Your grandmother was one of these people.
00:25:43.480You said your grandfather was killed at the age of 27.
00:25:47.220And your grandmother also took a stand for her faith, didn't she?
00:25:50.520Yes, my grandmother, Perpetua Schneider, when my grandfather Sebastian was killed, 27 years old, she had first days to hide because the police could also arrest her and take away the children.
00:26:09.160But she remained in her husband, but she remained in her house and she had a lot of holy pictures on the walls.
00:26:17.720And then came the police with guns to check the house because she was declared also as an enemy because she was the wife of an enemy traitor of the homeland.
00:26:28.300And so this policeman came and he saw the holy pictures and icons and gave the order to her to take away these pictures.
00:26:46.960And then the policeman went to the wall and wanted to take off the picture himself.
00:26:54.740And in this moment, my grandmother shouted on him and said, you did not put this picture on the wall and you have not the right to take it off.
00:27:06.700And even so, she was a very timid person all her life.
00:27:27.580And so in this moment, I think that God intervened.
00:27:31.420This moment, this policeman was like in a shock because at that time never dared because it was the time of the terror cleansing.
00:27:41.200All the police were going and shouting to the people.
00:27:47.120In this moment, he was, the policeman, quite of shock and did not speak nothing and silently left the house.
00:27:56.940And so God protected the widows and orphans, but especially those who serve him and who have the courage to witness God.
00:28:06.200She was willing to die for her faith, which I think is something that is just so incredible.
00:28:11.500And so it leads me to the question, when you examine this time period, what is it that made them focus on Christians right away?
00:28:20.520I mean, thousands of priests killed in incredibly graphic ways.
00:28:24.480You know, they wanted to make sure the public knew that it was not okay to be a Christian.
00:28:31.240I mean, even if you're an evil dictator, logic would say, okay, if they want to keep their objects and they want to keep their cross, I don't care as long as they get into line.
00:28:39.980What is it specifically about the faith that was something that this government understood had to be eliminated?
00:28:47.360Yes, because the religious science and the faith, the communist dictators, they perceived as a danger for them, an obstacle for the totalitarianism, ideological totalitarianism.
00:29:06.540So the communist system was, I repeat, totalitarian.
00:29:09.760It must be all the same way of thinking, but when there are other people who are not atheists, who are really opposing atheism with their style of life, with professing their faith, to have religious signs, to wear a cross, or to have in their houses holy pictures, or to build and to celebrate worship, and so on.
00:29:33.360It was perceived by the dictators as an obstacle for the achievement of a totalitarian, new, atheist, materialistic society.
00:29:46.920Back to St. Augustine, the city of God versus the city of man.
00:29:52.720And there is a particular, if you're trying to enslave mankind, there is a freedom that comes with knowing the Lord.
00:30:00.980And they can't have people experiencing that freedom if you want to turn them all into robots.
00:30:08.680And so when I see what happened there and this focus on Christianity, and I recognize that we're learning this in the West barely.
00:30:17.140They've completely removed the Christian story from this.
00:30:20.340You almost are not allowed to talk about things that Christians have lived through in the past, particularly Catholics, I would say, have lived through in the past.
00:30:27.600And one of the tools in which they use, it's funny that you brought up the media and the books as this Soviet propaganda and the Soviet training.
00:30:37.600One of the tools that they do use as a, I guess, a more modernized technique of torture is the media.
00:30:44.420The media still protects the state, protects the state initiatives, and doesn't really allow Christians to speak about this.
00:30:51.340It's like there are going to be tons of Christians hearing this that really don't know much about what happened in the Soviet Union.
00:30:59.000But they are waking up to the fact, and I'm one of these people as well, that the public school system is a problem.
00:31:05.800And when you trace the history, one of the first things that they did was they got the Bible out of the classroom.
00:31:10.040Under the guise of freedom of religion somehow, the Bible was removed from the classroom.
00:31:16.120And so I want to speak more about what your days were like in school under this system, what you learned, what was the new state religion almost, so to speak.
00:33:05.960It was, I mean, a rhetorical trick to, how do you say, to almost manipulate.
00:33:22.660Yes, manipulate and to present Christianity as something which is against reason, against science, and so on.
00:33:29.920But, interesting, during the Soviet time, for the Soviets, for the Communists, the greatest enemy, for them, was not so much the so-called Western world, in the Cold War, so-called, at that time.
00:33:49.380But, basically, the Catholic Church, and especially the Vatican, because at that time, until Vatican II, the popes all boldly resisted communism,
00:34:08.380and even they publicly accused communism, and showed the atrocities and all the lies, which the communist system did.
00:34:21.080And because the communist system was built on a pillar, which I called simply lie.
00:35:03.000And so, for example, I have known priests, my parents also, simple priests.
00:35:10.960They were not doing nothing politics, simply priests, visiting secretly the people, giving the sacraments, confession, and so on, wedding, baptisms, in midst of the dangers.
00:35:25.860And when they were caught and arrested, they were labeled and accused, with this formulation.
00:36:08.880I am going to think for a very long time about what you just said, that they tried to say that atheism was scientific because that really sent a chill down my spine.
00:36:21.400Because I have been speaking a lot on my show about how I've recognized that modern science is fraudulent.
00:36:31.660And I said, well, you're now having people that just deem themselves experts, and all they have to do is say that it's a science, and people get in line.
00:36:40.900And I think now the public recognizes that post-COVID, which became of religion.
00:36:46.620I mean, they just would say six feet social distancing, and people would get in line.
00:36:57.260There was something about that that felt so demonic to me, of you're just saying implicitly, almost as if the science has become this pagan god.
00:37:07.940I believe science has become this sort of, it's a form of paganism, where there's no logic anymore.
00:37:13.240It's just somebody deeming themselves an expert.
00:37:15.220But there's so much that they have been able to accomplish evil, in my view, in Western society, under the guise of science.
00:37:23.520Because what they do is they then teach it to people in school, and people then view that as a token of their education.
00:37:30.740Well, I learned that six feet social distancing is right, so it can't be wrong.
00:37:35.620Well, I learned that, you know, I'm someone that speaks against, you know, the vaccine industry, really.
00:37:40.940Well, I learned in medical school that as soon as the child comes out, there's something wrong with it, and they need all these injections.
00:37:48.180And so to hear that they even manipulated science and tried to say atheism is actually scientific is really something I've never heard of before.
00:38:22.500And they, I mean, they're doing this even in terms of history, and this becomes the threat of the education system, because I do believe that what we're existing under is Soviet propaganda.
00:38:34.320When I examine, again, my own childhood and how I learned things, where everything they do, as long as they say that there's a statistic behind it, even if they can't explain it.
00:39:09.620And so it's now become this sort of scientific understanding, statistical understanding that more people, way more people would have died if we didn't do this.
00:40:21.080And therefore, we must again free our children, our society, from this system of lie, from this denial of evidence.
00:40:39.080And to establish again a society where you can think freely and seriously present the truth of history and of our social life.
00:40:56.580Yeah, I mean, this gets into really the humanist agenda where I examine things through a lens now.
00:41:03.140And I go, OK, what they've done is they've taken the Bible and they've said, let's remove God and elect ourselves the God and sort of re-implement things.
00:41:12.280Really, we're going to turn the Bible on its head.
00:41:14.860So it's just going to be marriage is bad.
00:41:17.300Marriage is not between a man and woman.
00:41:47.020There's going to be no concept of discipline.
00:41:48.820And we're going to raise them to believe that they are their own authority.
00:41:51.900And authority is a very important word when it comes to Western society, because when I kind of got interested in the Catholic faith, so to speak, I did realize that Americans have been conditioned to protest Protestants, so to speak, to protest the very concept of authority.
00:42:12.940And this is what's wrong and what's backwards about the Catholic faith.
00:42:18.260The Catholics are an implicit enemy in our textbooks.
00:42:24.800This was the old world, the dark ages.
00:42:27.720And now we have science, and it's modern, and we don't need God because we have reason, and everything's scientific.
00:42:33.900And so do you, I mean, first off, do you know that there is sort of this resistance to the Catholic Church, I would say, in the West, particularly in America, but also in the UK and other places?
00:46:41.660And so, and then, the Gnosis, one other principle was that we will achieve, let us say, happiness or salvation, you can call it as you want,
00:46:57.880simply through thinking, this means Gnosis in Greek, is thinking, or knowledge, independently of our moral behavior, of our moral acts.
00:47:25.440It is sufficient your thinking and your knowledge, and a kind of secret, eletarian knowledge,
00:47:35.300where, basically, then man will establish, and they establish what is good and what is evil.
00:47:43.360So, we see this is a perversion, which was instilled by the devil, of course, since the beginning of the temptation of Adam and Eve,
00:47:51.960but manifested historically in the historical Gnosis movement, 2,000 years,
00:47:58.160then revived again in a great, to a great extent, in the free Masonic ideology, which we are now witnessing also.
00:48:07.360Yes, and that was another element of American history that I was really startled by when I was speaking to a priest in the UK.
00:48:14.080And he sort of said to me, you Americans just know nothing about history, know nothing about the battle of the Freemasons for America.
00:48:21.460And I began there and sort of really understanding these Freemason groups and what they were about.
00:48:26.180And, yes, and one element that came from Freemasonry was psychology, like modern psychology,
00:48:34.260which is, to me, a tremendous evil today that we're seeing.
00:48:38.680And they use psychology, again, turn it into a science, right, turn this into a science.
00:48:43.000And this is how you get so many kids who believe that they have authority over their own bodies.
00:48:50.140And they're constantly, you know, put your child into therapy, where it used to be the role when you had burdens to go to a priest.
00:48:56.780They now say, oh, actually, the person you need to go to is a psychologist.
00:49:00.640But when you really examine the history of everything that's gone very wrong in our society,
00:49:05.240there is always a psychologist behind it, you know, teaching kids that pornography is good, right?
00:49:10.800This was something that was given to us by psychologists, this concept that it's actually good for people to explore their sexuality.
00:49:18.980And so much that has, again, another attack on the family unit, something that so many men are struggling with.
00:49:26.160And this is one of the things that brought me back to another Catholic teaching when I developed a really strong understanding that pornography is an evil.
00:49:34.940Yet I learned in school, can you believe this?
00:49:37.160In school in America, you learn when you are in high school that watching pornography is healthy.
00:49:43.940It's healthy to watch a little bit of pornography.
00:49:47.680And I look back on that and I just go, what a tremendous evil to teach that to children while at the same time using the media, again, another tool, to promote pornography, even in its minor forms.
00:50:01.480Like everything is now soft-core pornography in the advertisements, it's soft-core pornography.
00:50:06.700When you're reading the news, I mean, just the way people dress, everything has become pornographic and it's intentional and it's evil and it's demonic.
00:50:15.580And it is an attack on the institution of the family.
00:54:10.140And then, of course, to bring the true wisdom, the true virtue, which is ultimately only possible with the help of God, who is the wisdom, who is the love, who is the truth.
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00:55:15.260I speak about on my show often that I just really trust my gut instinct.
00:55:19.920And what they've done successfully is to make people believe that their gut is a conspiracy.
00:55:25.400Like that thing that comes online, which is the God intuition that is saying to you, this is very wrong and I shouldn't be doing this, even though you're telling me it's right.
00:55:33.960They, you know, convince people that that feeling should be ignored and you should just do what everybody else is doing.
00:55:39.120Again, there's like that slave economy and don't ask any questions.
00:55:43.500And that's why watching what happened during COVID was really a study in a mass psychology being implemented on the world where your gut instinct should tell you, I shouldn't leave my parents to die alone.
00:55:55.500I should, that, that everything should be screaming that this is wrong.
00:55:58.720But again, then you're looking at everybody else and everyone's in formation.
00:56:03.500And so you just go ahead and you do that.
00:56:05.840And what's really funny is they always use the word freedom, right?
00:56:09.620They're always telling you that this is about, you have to do this for freedom.
00:56:13.000Even when they're locking you at home, they're telling you that you're doing this because you're a part of a team.
00:56:18.000And like once everybody does this, then at the end of this, you're going to get your freedom.
00:56:22.220So you have to enslave yourself for a little, but that's the right thing to do for freedom.
00:56:51.160You know, this is not about breaking down the family and making women hate men.
00:56:54.760And this is about standing up to the patriarchy so that women can have their freedom out of the household.
00:57:01.160So you're constantly seeing that conditioning of telling people that it's really about freedom as they inch us ever closer to our own enslavement.
00:57:23.360And yet they continue to do the slave activity.
00:57:27.820And I wonder if it's because freedom is actually quite scary.
00:57:32.960Like the concept of freedom for some people, it's easier to just get in line because then you can say, well, I'm not in control of my own life and I'd rather just do what I'm told to do.
00:57:44.100And I grapple with that, like if it's natural for people to want to be enslaved because they don't have the courage to be free.
00:57:54.040A great deal of people, they prefer to live in some way as slaves rather than to witness something which is then for them unpleasant and have some consequences, negative consequences.
00:58:14.100But the dignity of the human person consists in really finding the truth and witnessing the truth, the good, the love.
00:58:32.360And this we must promote because this is really and goes down in history.
00:58:41.120We admire all people who in history resisted the common current, the common tie, the common ideology.
00:58:53.760We have several excellent figures in the history, only to mention Thomas More and Solzhenitsyn and others.
00:59:05.920And this is really, for us, worthy of admiration.
00:59:14.260And for your own self-esteem, you must reject any form of slavery.
00:59:48.420I do want to ask you briefly about some of the, I guess, internal struggle, if you want to call it internal conflicts, of the Catholic Church, which I think a lot of people are speaking about today.
01:00:03.760They will speak about certain bishops and pre-Vatican, pre-Vatican II, pardon, ideas.
01:00:09.860And when I think about America in the 60s, as I'm starting to relearn history, I definitely do think that the 60s, it's an important decade.
01:00:19.080There were a lot of significant changes that happened in my country.
01:00:22.620And, of course, obviously, the Vatican II Council.
01:00:26.000And so what does that mean for people that, many people who watch the show who are not Catholic, when you are being described, maybe you don't agree with that description, as someone who is pre-Vatican II?
01:00:37.860And what does that mean to you, that public description of you?
01:00:43.260Well, this is not the exact term, pre-Vatican II.
01:00:48.420I'm simply trying to be faithful to Jesus Christ.
01:00:54.260Jesus Christ is more important than a council.
01:00:58.060Jesus Christ is more important than a pope.
01:01:30.820And I will not accept novelties which will undermine this treasure, which is not my invention, but which is a gift of our Lord Jesus Christ, of God himself,
01:01:48.620who gave us so generously, who gave us so generously, revealed us his divine truth.
01:01:57.360And these divine truths were entrusted to the apostles, and they handed it over, and the Church, until the second coming of Christ.
01:02:11.020In the Church's task is to present ever more clearly the beauty and the immutability of the divine truth.
01:02:40.060Because the truth is beauty, because the truth is beauty, and it attracts you.
01:02:45.220And so the Church's first task, most severe task, is to keep, transmit, integrally, inviolably, this divine treasure of truth.
01:03:00.700And therefore, I stick to not my opinion, not to the so-called pre-Vatican opinion, but to the divine truth, which the Church, the saints, the innumerable saints,
01:03:19.860for 2,000 years believed, believed, proclaimed in the same sense, the same meaning always, and for which numerous, countless martyrs gave their life for the truth.
01:03:37.820And this is worthwhile, and so when someone will therefore label me as pre-Vatican too, it has, for me, absolutely no meaning.
01:03:52.420I am happy to be labeled so, as long as I am with Christ, and with the truth, and with all the saints of the past.
01:04:01.760Sure, the labeling doesn't actually mean anything at all when you find the truth.
01:04:06.260And it's funny, because I find that a lot of times people can wrongly attribute having faith, and really just having an understanding of the truth, as a form of radicalism.
01:04:17.380Like, this person has been radicalized, and actually, I agree.
01:04:20.900I think the truth is radical in times of tremendous deceit.
01:04:25.940It's radical when you're standing up in a system of lies.
01:04:30.900Exactly, and the problem with Vatican II was that, at that time, Pope John XXIII and Pope VI with the Council, they wanted, in some way, to please the modern world, to ask sympathies from the world.
01:05:38.160And St. Athanasius, a great saint from the 4th century, who almost alone with few bishops, defended in the 4th century the truth of the divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ against the spread heresy of the Arians, who denied the divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ.
01:06:05.240This great saint, he said, if the entire world would be against the divinity of Jesus Christ, the entire church, the entire world, then I will believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ, and therefore I will be against the entire world.
01:06:27.240And so he also coined this expression, it is not fitting that we Christians and the moral bishops are serving the time.
01:06:44.780That was actually one of the small things that added up for me, I think, that drew me to the Catholic faith, was sort of seeing that as a Protestant, when you go to church on a Sunday, everything's become quite modern.
01:07:00.660It seems like you're kind of meeting the times.
01:07:02.460And I don't say this with any ill will in my heart.
01:07:05.080I'm grateful for the time that I spent as a Protestant.
01:07:07.680I think it was another step, a guide, but I did sort of wake up one day and just go, this is really modern.
01:12:20.780Heresy, it's a kind of spiritual distortion, distortion of divine truth, which God revealed us, or a denial, or distorted.
01:12:35.580And so heresy, it's a kind of spiritual poison, which is what was since the beginning in the Church spread,
01:12:45.720and even our days so much spread in the life of the Church.
01:12:49.460So errors, ambiguities, distortions, denials, all proceeding from a subjectivistic, egoistic, narcissistic point of view from theologians, even bishops.
01:13:06.100And we have to address this simply to protect people from the spiritual poisons and deceits.
01:13:14.300Like a good physician, a doctor, he will warn people of viruses, of dangerous epidemic sicknesses, and so on, diseases.
01:13:29.340And the same, a bishop must protect people from the spiritual diseases and give him something in the hand, be attentive.
01:13:38.920And I enumerated all the historical heresies and errors which existed since the beginning of the Church, until our day.
01:13:48.400And presented some answers to current topics.
01:13:54.640And in the end of the book, Flee from Heresy, I presented Our Lady Mary, the Mother of God, who protects us.
01:14:04.360So these are my three books, which I would recommend.
01:14:10.840Okay, we'll put the link in the description for this video, but for those that are listening to the audio,
01:14:14.900where is the best place for them to go if they want to purchase your books?
01:14:17.740So they can purchase all these books in Amazon.