Candace Owens - Former CIA Officer Exposes The Shadow Government

00:00:00.000 All right, guys, you are in for a treat today. Really, actually, I'm in for a treat because

00:00:03.880 you know my obsession with declassified CIA documents. Obviously, this year, I have made

00:00:08.700 that book Chaos Required reading for any person that is watching this podcast. I mean, learning

00:00:13.200 the truth about the CIA. It is just, it will rip you into a new reality about our government.

00:00:19.020 What is real? Operation Mockingbird, MKUltra. Well, today, I have a guest who was in the CIA,

00:00:25.960 became a whistleblower. I'm not sure how he's alive. I'm going to ask him,

00:00:30.580 but it is our great and distinct honor to welcome Kevin Shipp to The Candace Show. Kevin.

00:00:35.980 Thank you. Yeah, thanks for having me.

00:00:37.620 I feel bad for you because this is like, I'm just going to lock you in here and ask you so many

00:00:41.320 questions right off the bat. That's fine.

00:00:44.260 First, I'll just ask a question I think that a lot of people probably want to know,

00:00:47.200 a very softball question. How does one become a CIA analyst? Do they call you after you place

00:00:53.540 high on your SATs? In some cases, they do. And they recruit out of some of the Ivy League colleges.

00:00:59.880 In my case, I had a friend who was in there, I didn't know it because he was undercover,

00:01:04.620 was encouraging me to put in an application. And his name was Dana. And I said, Dana,

00:01:09.240 that's not going to happen. Not with my checkered and shaded college past, you know, drugs and

00:01:14.120 alcohol and all. And he said, well, just try it anyway. And I said, okay, I filled it out,

00:01:18.480 171 gave it to him and just blew it off. That's the end of that. And I get a call,

00:01:24.000 this is Kevin Shipp. Yes, this is Mr. X at the CIA. You've applied for employment? I said,

00:01:30.460 yeah. He goes, would you like to continue with your application process? And I said, sure.

00:01:35.320 How old were you at the time?

00:01:36.360 I was, let's see, at that time, I was 27, 27 years old. And they said, okay,

00:01:43.460 then we'll continue. Thank you. I said, okay, wait till they do my background investigation,

00:01:48.440 talk to my college friends, you know. Then I get phone calls from my buddies. Two guys in a suit

00:01:53.680 knocked at our door. They were FBI and they're asking questions about you. And I'm like,

00:01:58.960 well, surprised that didn't happen in college, but they weren't FBI. They were somebody else.

00:02:06.400 So I knew that they were out there checking on me and I was still convinced, nah, I'll never make.

00:02:10.480 And then I get another call, Kevin Shipp, we are still interested in your application. Would you

00:02:15.640 like to come into CIA headquarters for an interview? I was like, okay. So I go to CIA headquarters in

00:02:21.960 Langley, Virginia, walk in there into the main building. They badge me with the visitor badge.

00:02:27.000 I sit there, lady in a business suit comes out. She goes, you Kevin Shipp? I said, yeah. She goes,

00:02:31.260 follow me. So I go down this long corridor with combination locks on all the doors. And at the end

00:02:36.160 is this one doorway that's open and sitting behind the desk is this silver haired guy up in this big

00:02:41.360 desk. And he's, but this is the back where you could smoke in CIA office, office buildings. And he's

00:02:45.540 just chained smoking away. And he goes, Kevin, have a seat. So I sit in the chair and of course,

00:02:51.160 I sunk down, you know, and so his desk is way up here. I'm like, okay, I know what's going on here.

00:02:55.900 He goes, uh, Kevin, I got one question for you. I said, yes, sir. He goes, you ever broken the law?

00:03:03.420 Well, I'm like, okay, that's the end of this. I said, uh, I'd become a Christian at that point.

00:03:09.640 So I was, you know, I tried to tell the truth the best I could. I said, yes, sir. I have. He goes,

00:03:14.260 well, why don't you tell me about it? So I went through this long litany of drug use and climbing

00:03:19.000 to the top of radio towers and all this crazy stuff we did in college. And when I was done,

00:03:24.080 I was like, oh, well, I told the truth. He takes a drag off his cigarette, blows out of his nose and he

00:03:29.300 goes, I got no problem with that. You want to continue? I'm like, yeah. So anyway,

00:03:33.760 went to the polygraph and I did the same thing in the polygraph and told them all my, my.

00:03:37.940 Oh, wow. So they immediately then take you into a polygraph.

00:03:40.640 Well, it was, uh, about a month after that. They like to, they like you to stew.

00:03:45.400 As they're watching you.

00:03:46.520 As they're, as they're watching you. So each interview was, was about almost three months

00:03:50.560 apart for a total of six months.

00:03:52.300 Okay. And then one more question. What were you actually doing as your career at that time?

00:03:56.060 I was a starving biologist. Okay. Yeah. I was a biologist. My, uh,

00:04:00.220 binary was in microbiology and I decided I want to find a new career that, you know, I, I'm not made

00:04:05.460 to be in a laboratory. So that's why Dana had me turning the application. And so they would call

00:04:10.400 you and they'd wait three months to kind of let you stew, you know, and next call I get, uh, Kevin

00:04:16.480 Shipp. Yeah. This is Mrs. X. Um, you have, uh, made it this far in your process. Would you'd like

00:04:23.440 to come in for a polygraph test? And I said, uh, okay. It said, come into headquarters, such and

00:04:28.580 such a time and date. Uh, and, uh, uh, they'll send me to an outer building. They do these in an

00:04:33.880 outer non-discrete outer building. And they said on such and such a date. So I walk in there, sit

00:04:38.760 there with all these people that are in the chairs, you know, just frozen about to take their CIA

00:04:42.080 polygraph. They called me back and I sat down in the chair and they wired me up with all the wires,

00:04:46.940 the electrodermal plates and everything. And, and, uh, started asking me questions. And of course,

00:04:51.880 the first one was, uh, uh, Kevin, have you ever broken the law? And I was like, okay. And then,

00:04:57.340 and then, and, and, and, and, and, and he was like, anything else? No. And then they get into drugs

00:05:01.320 and they get into alcohol. And later on at the end of my tour, I became a polygraph examiner. So I

00:05:06.800 knew, you know, much of it is, is trickery. It's not as much, the interested instrument is really

00:05:12.360 important, but it's the skill of the, of the examiner and how they ask questions and they do

00:05:16.520 it in a specific way. So the last mundane questions, and then they'll hit you with the big one and see

00:05:21.440 how you react to the big one, you know? So anyway, I got out of there in two hours, which I understood

00:05:26.360 later was a good thing. And, uh, got my call, uh, um, you're hired, work for the CIA, report to the CIA

00:05:32.680 headquarters, such and such a date for my big briefing. And I was in, you have no idea a lot of times what

00:05:36.940 you're going to be doing until you get in there, you know, which I certainly didn't.

00:05:40.440 So you were just shocked. Here you are a biologist.

00:05:43.580 Yeah. Yeah. And dealing with test tubes and making no money. Now you're like,

00:05:47.460 actually, now you work for the central intelligence agency.

00:05:50.260 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe they liked my checker.

00:05:53.340 Married at the time?

00:05:54.640 No, I was, yes, I was married at the time. Let's see. I was 27. So I was, I was married at the time.

00:05:58.480 Yes. And of course, uh, my wife couldn't know anything about once I got in there and found out what I was

00:06:04.300 going to do, you go through your first briefing. I wound up being one of these briefers,

00:06:08.480 but everybody's sitting out there from secretaries to military liaison generals in this big audience.

00:06:14.080 And then they tell them what the CIA is all about. And everybody goes, whoa, whoa. And,

00:06:19.040 and they tell you how special you are and you're the 2%. And that's when they start working on you.

00:06:24.000 Nobody's like you, you know, and we chose you because you're special. And, and, uh, that's part

00:06:29.360 of how they mess with your mind and get you to kind of be super loyal and test you to see what

00:06:34.480 you'll do later. Uh, so anyway, I went through that. Then I started in what was called their

00:06:39.180 security protective service. Uh, they, they had just instituted a brand new program where they

00:06:43.380 would, uh, train federal law enforcement officers at FLETSI, the federal law enforcement training

00:06:48.320 center. And the CIA would bring them in, get them a clearance. Uh, they would be licensed, uh,

00:06:54.140 federal police officers. And then they would do secret things for the police inside CIA headquarters

00:06:58.220 and, and buildings. And so I started there and then, uh, what sorts of secret things?

00:07:03.800 Uh, well protect the, the, the way the statement is, uh, the security protective service protects

00:07:08.920 CIA personnel and facilities. And that means a lot, especially overseas. If you're protecting

00:07:14.520 personnel overseas, you're involved in operations, you know, and live or die, which I wound up doing.

00:07:20.920 Um, and so, uh, within golly eight months, I was promoted to be an agent, a protective agent

00:07:25.980 on the protective detail of William Casey when he was a director of the CIA and all the way up until

00:07:32.620 he had his seizure and was taken to Georgetown University Hospital. And then I was one of the

00:07:36.680 agents in the hot seat outside of his hospital room while he was terminally ill. And, and, uh,

00:07:41.900 that's when Bob Woodward claims he got in, which is a fabrication because we caught him and showed him

00:07:47.740 the door. He never got in there. Wow. And it's in his book, Veil, Secret Wars of the CIA. It's a

00:07:51.800 complete fabrication. Wow. Yeah. So then I went on to the counterespionage group. Uh, there was a mole

00:07:57.320 in the CIA and I was in a special unit searching for that mole inside the CIA. Uh, then from there

00:08:03.880 I went, um, and became, uh, a member of what would be the CIA's version of a tier one. They won't let me

00:08:09.700 say the exact name of the detail. They want me to call it an anti-terrorism assault team. So we were sent

00:08:15.540 overseas against, uh, the new people's army terrorist group that were, that were massacring police

00:08:20.320 departments. They were surveilling embassy people. He killed a bunch of Marines and we were sent over

00:08:24.720 there to stop that from happening. Which country are you allowed to say? No. Okay. And, uh, so, uh,

00:08:31.040 it was, uh, they said this is going to be a one way mission. So we all took out life insurance and,

00:08:34.800 uh, I had a close call with a terminal illness when I was a kid. So I wasn't really afraid of much,

00:08:39.760 you know? Um, so I, uh, they asked for volunteers and only a few raised their hands. And then we went

00:08:45.120 through cut after cut after cut through this intense training with the counter assault team training and

00:08:50.000 hostage training and all this stuff. And so now you're learning to shoot or had you already,

00:08:54.480 you're learning, uh, you're in tactical shooting. We had to qualify in five different weapon systems.

00:08:58.960 We went through really intense counterterrorism driver training where we're, we're in the dark,

00:09:04.440 we're driving down a track at 80 miles an hour with a car ramming us from behind an instructor

00:09:09.620 screaming obscenities right in our face. And we had to make a 90 degree turn and do it successfully

00:09:16.160 or we are off the team. So, okay. I want to, I want to stop pause here because you are saying

00:09:21.200 all this stuff like it's super casual. And now I feel like I'm listening to the audio of a James

00:09:25.280 Bond flick. Okay. So because this is like, this is incredible. So they come to you and you've got

00:09:30.160 this counterterrorism team and they ask who, who would like to volunteer for this? By the way,

00:09:33.920 you might die because you've said that sort of casually, but they basically were like,

00:09:38.000 take out some life insurance. You're married at the time and you volunteer because you're a madman,

00:09:42.960 I presume. But you did say also because you had dealt with the terminal illness when you were

00:09:46.720 younger. And I wasn't afraid of dying. Yeah. Okay. So what, what was the terminal illness?

00:09:50.640 What were you? I was diagnosed with what's called bilateral hydronephrosis when, when I was 12 years

00:09:56.080 old and essentially both kidneys, both of my kidneys had burst and I was just going to the bathroom and

00:10:03.040 nothing was, but blood was coming out. So they rushed me to Fairfax hospital and kidneys were gone.

00:10:08.160 It was just a mass of blood and they gave me six weeks to live. And, uh, uh, uh, my mom,

00:10:14.720 who was an agnostic, uh, had a friend named Sue Barton, wonderful lady. And she had a prayer group

00:10:20.480 and that little prayer group of ladies, you know, believe that God still heals, uh, from the Bible.

00:10:25.040 And so they prayed and prayed and prayed. I didn't know this. Uh, they prayed and I remember I was in

00:10:29.680 the hospital and of course I was feeling horrible. I was in there for 30 days at that point. And I was

00:10:33.200 their poster child, you know, cause I wasn't supposed to make it. And then all of a sudden I started just

00:10:37.600 feeling healthy for the first time in a long time. And I remember sitting up telling the,

00:10:43.600 the nurse, open the window, let the sunshine come in. She's like, okay. They took me back down

00:10:48.240 and x-rayed my sides and both my kidneys were back. Uh, and this is in Fairfax County records,

00:10:52.960 Fairfax County hospital. Yeah. And, uh, and so after that, I knew something really remarkable

00:10:58.800 had happened. And at through, after my college years, I finally found was smart enough to find faith

00:11:04.160 when I got started looking into it, uh, to get through my thick head. And, uh, then I,

00:11:08.560 I became a very sincere Christian after that. So then, yeah. So this is why you don't have this

00:11:11.920 fear of death. Yeah. So you're, you're a dedicated Christian and you're like, all right, this is what

00:11:16.480 I'm going to do. I'm going to go overseas. I'm going to join this counter-terrorism unit.

00:11:20.320 And you go through this intense training, you get over there and I assume you don't die.

00:11:27.440 Nope. I, I, I, I sure didn't die. You know, and it's funny that the way that it works,

00:11:33.200 because the CIA is such a mind game that, uh, I went native for about five years and I became them

00:11:40.960 out collecting human intelligence in the field through assets and trying to penetrate governments

00:11:45.920 and things. And what that does and drinking with the, the, uh, the enemy, you know, and, and,

00:11:52.720 and, uh, what that does to your moral compass is just not good. And so for five years, I was kind of

00:12:00.640 one of them, you know, although I was a Christian, I was still a Christian, but backslidden would

00:12:04.400 probably be a good word.

00:12:05.440 But your job was to be dishonest.

00:12:07.440 My job was to steal, to lie, to drink with the foreigners. And, and, and I would take metal notes

00:12:13.040 as I was extracting information. We'd get them real drunk, you know, take them out and get them to

00:12:17.600 talk. And then I'd memorize everything they said and then take coded notes when I got back to the hotel

00:12:22.320 and then smuggle those back to agency and write reports. And I got a word for that. Um, so, uh,

00:12:28.400 did a lot of that and it was dirty work. Um, that the James Bond image, you know, when you get out

00:12:34.160 and actual case officer work, uh, it's more snakely, I would say.

00:12:38.160 But you've of course been severely, you've gone through the propaganda, the propaganda of the

00:12:42.720 training.

00:12:43.120 Oh yeah, absolutely.

00:12:44.080 You're a part of it.

00:12:45.040 Oh yeah. It's a mind messing organization. Absolutely. And the, the defining moment,

00:12:49.360 which kind of opened my eyes as I was, I was, we were on the border of the Soviet Union. KGB was

00:12:54.160 everywhere. We were followed. We had a KGB officer that followed us everywhere. We called him Boris.

00:12:59.920 And I left the hotel one day to go up to, uh, this little mall and, and get something to eat

00:13:04.800 in the hotel. And this lady comes up to me and, and she goes, uh, hi sir, would you like to hear

00:13:10.720 the gospel of Jesus Christ? Excuse me. And I, and I pushed her away and I said, no, thank you.

00:13:16.160 And I took about four steps and I was like, my God, what has happened to me? You know,

00:13:21.360 I went back to the hotel room. I was like, I can't do this anymore. And, uh, went back to headquarters.

00:13:26.720 And because I'd written, gotten some good human intelligence and done some good operations,

00:13:30.960 I got a call from the division chief. We want you to come and do this collecting human intelligence

00:13:35.440 in the field, uh, for the rest of your career. Uh, I mean, this is an offer that nobody refused.

00:13:41.200 You can't refuse this. You know, I used to come home and take a bath to go to church,

00:13:45.680 to take a soul bath, you know, after what I'd just done. And I loved my kids and my family

00:13:50.240 ordered anything. So, uh, I told him on the phone, I said, uh, sir, thank you so much for the offer,

00:13:55.440 but, uh, I'm, I'm not interested. I'm not, I'm gonna have to turn it down. He goes, what?

00:13:59.840 Your career with this agency is over if you turn this down. I said, well, yeah, yes, sir. If that's

00:14:05.040 the case, then that's the case. He goes, uh, it's over for you. Click. He hangs up the phone. And I'm like,

00:14:10.160 okie dokie. I walked out of my office and there was a, I can't mention his name, but he's a real well-known,

00:14:15.120 uh, figure was now with the CIA. And I walked out, my head kind of hanging. And, uh, he comes

00:14:21.520 out and puts his arm around me. He goes, uh, and excuse my, my French here, but he goes,

00:14:26.560 hey, Kevin. I said, yeah, yeah, I'm feeling kind of down. I just got really hammered. And he goes,

00:14:30.960 uh, it's about time somebody told those bastards, no. I'm like, that helps.

00:14:38.080 So, uh, and in the context of my career, I uncovered this vulnerability. I was put on an assignment

00:14:44.000 looking at, uh, computer system connections between the CI and some of our allied intelligence

00:14:48.880 agencies. And as I was doing an investigation, I uncovered a vulnerability where it appeared

00:14:53.920 that any foreign intelligence service, um, any terrorist organization could go into the visa

00:14:58.960 section of an embassy where they're just open computers and go into that computer,

00:15:03.280 into the system in the embassy and identify our covert agents, chief of staffs, and, and by

00:15:09.200 extension, their assets. And at first I was like, my gosh, how can this be?

00:15:14.160 So I investigated further and dug and dug, and it turned out that it looked like, yes,

00:15:17.920 you can do this. So I contacted the office division and the CIA responsible. I said, look,

00:15:23.440 I think this can be done. And they're like, we doubt it. And I said, well, let me send my report

00:15:28.960 over to you and you can give it to the division chief and, uh, let him look at it. Just see what he

00:15:34.400 thinks. So I sent it through internal CIA mail. I call a week later. Did you get my report?

00:15:39.600 What report? I said, you know, the one I sent you through internal mail. Uh, no,

00:15:43.520 we didn't get any report. So I said, okay, I'll send it again. So I sent it again, waited a week,

00:15:48.560 called them. Okay. Did you get it this time? What report? I'm like, what the heck is going on here?

00:15:54.000 The one I sent you? Uh, no, we don't remember any report. I said, all right, I'm going to come

00:15:58.320 over to your office and see I headquarters and I'm going to give you the report over your desk. So I did that.

00:16:03.040 I traveled to CIA headquarters with the report, walked up into the office. There was

00:16:07.440 the division chief's executive aide. And I said, ma'am, here's the report. Uh, I think he needs to

00:16:13.120 look at this. And she kind of bristled and said, okay, I'll give it to him. Week later, I called,

00:16:19.440 did the chief get a chance to, uh, read my report? And he goes, she goes, I don't remember any report.

00:16:25.440 I'm like, uh, ma'am, the one I just handed you over your desk. I don't remember that. We don't

00:16:29.600 remember any, any report. Then I went into the CIA server and headquarters and they had erased my

00:16:34.560 report from the CIA server. And I was like, what on earth is going on here? You would think that

00:16:39.360 they'd want to know about this and do something. Other guys don't get killed. So guys don't get

00:16:42.880 killed. Yeah. And, uh, then I get a call from this division chief in a menacing tone, Kevin

00:16:48.240 ship. I'm like, this is so-and-so from, uh, clearance protection division. I'll call it.

00:16:54.400 I said, yes, sir. He goes, uh, I'm ordering you to drop this investigation and drop it now

00:16:58.640 or else it's your career. I'm like, but sir, he goes, no, I'm telling you to stop it. Click.

00:17:05.360 And, and, uh, okay. What do I do then? Uh, well, it turns out that my immediate boss,

00:17:12.320 uh, I'll call Jack leaked to my report to the department of state, senior inspector general's

00:17:18.160 office, former decorated CI officer was now one of the leaders in their staff. And I get this phone

00:17:25.200 call on the secure line, Kevin, this is Jim so-and-so. Uh, and I knew who he was. I mean,

00:17:30.000 he was very well respected in the agency. I said, yeah, yes, sir. He goes, listen, uh,

00:17:34.480 we got a copy of your report and we think there may be a concern here. Uh, so I said, uh, uh, yeah,

00:17:40.960 I think so too. And he goes, would you come over to state and brief us? And I said, certainly.

00:17:45.040 So I went over to department of state, briefed the IG and they looked at it and they said, yeah,

00:17:48.160 this is concerning. Uh, let us look at this and then we'll get back to you. So I go back to my,

00:17:53.680 uh, desk in this outer building. I get a call from Jim. He goes, Kev, uh, this looks serious.

00:17:59.520 We're going to do a global investigation of this and see if this is really happening. Do not tell the

00:18:04.960 CIA what you're doing or what we're doing. Keep this secret. You'll hear from us in about three months.

00:18:12.560 So I was like, goodness. Okay. Three months. I get a call on, on a secure line and it's Jim. He goes,

00:18:18.880 Kevin, we need you to come over to state. Uh, it's worse than even you thought. I said, yes,

00:18:24.240 sir. He goes, could you be at state this Friday at such and such time? I said, yes, sir.

00:18:27.920 So I went over there and, uh, the IG guys buzzed me in on the upper floor and I walk in and there's

00:18:32.240 Jim and the two IG guys. They said, come on back to the conference room. I walk into this room,

00:18:36.480 this long walnut conference room. And I sit on one side of the table, Jim and the other two,

00:18:41.280 two IG guys at the end. And they said, uh, the CIA will be here in just a moment. I'm like,

00:18:47.120 ooh, I didn't know the CIA was coming to this. Um, and, uh, so, um, we wait, there's a buzz on the

00:18:54.800 door. The door opens and, uh, in walks the chief division chief of this cover protection division.

00:19:00.640 Who told you drop it. Told me the division that told me to drop it or else. And they said, uh,

00:19:06.480 have a seat at the end of the table, sir. And, uh, this is GS 15 CIA official and, uh, way above my

00:19:13.440 head. He sat down at the end of the table. He didn't know why he was there. He was kind of,

00:19:17.280 he was kind of nervous. And they said, uh, consider this an official rebuke by the department of state

00:19:24.160 to the CIA for putting the lives of their covert agents at risk for over 10 years and then covering

00:19:31.680 it up. Consider this an official rebuke. And this report is going to go to the entire intelligence

00:19:37.840 community and they're all going to see what you've done. Well, he, blood just drained from his face.

00:19:43.040 He got ash and white and froze and was shocked. It was like, oh, we're busted. And they said, you can

00:19:50.880 go now. So he gets up and he walks out and I'm sitting there thinking, well, that's the end of

00:19:55.760 me. That's the end of my career. And I remember going back to the CIA headquarters, walking through

00:19:59.600 the main hallway and it was figuratively speaking. It was like I had a laser dot in my back. I knew

00:20:03.840 they were coming for me. And eventually they wound up assigning me to a, a secret base where they did

00:20:09.920 all kinds of dirty deeds and buried a bunch of stuff and put me in a house that they knew was badly

00:20:15.440 contaminated. The people in it before were very ill and, uh, and ordered me and my family into this

00:20:22.240 house. And, uh, we all got terribly sick. My son's immune system was, was destroyed. The immune

00:20:29.280 immunologist said it looked like he'd been exposed to a burst of radiation. My wife was, uh, bedridden,

00:20:34.720 bruising all of her body, bleeding from her guns. She was in dementia, lost her short-term memory.

00:20:40.480 The CIA was ordering me not to tell anybody about it. They wouldn't, they wouldn't allow

00:20:45.040 any medical tests, any environmental tests, uh, told me to keep it quiet. They wouldn't let me come

00:20:49.840 back to contact my supervisor back in Washington. And, uh, anyway, uh, so, uh, it was bad. Then they

00:20:57.920 broke into our house. You know, I was two steps ahead cause I was them. So we were out of the house

00:21:03.200 and I put tape seals on all the doors and windows and a little radio shack voice activated tape recorder.

00:21:09.120 You know, how technically advanced I put it up in the, in the silverware container and then a little

00:21:13.920 safety zone motion activated siren while we were gone. And, uh, we get back, we go into the house,

00:21:20.720 all five tape seals are broken. I turn on the tape recorder and you can hear the door opening with a

00:21:26.640 master key, some rustling around. You can hear the alarm go off and then shut off immediately. They knew how

00:21:32.800 to shut that thing off and you had to kind of know what to do. And, uh, at that point I'd filed a personal

00:21:38.800 injury suit against the CIA because they were covering this thing up. And we went back

00:21:42.880 into where it looked like most of the toxins that were coming in, they were coming in from

00:21:46.720 below and above. And there were, uh, big paint brushes of invisible chemical the CIA had broken

00:21:52.720 in and painted on the ceiling. They didn't know that I was using a back black light because that's

00:21:57.200 how you can find a lot of toxins with black light. And I remember Clinton, my courageous attorney,

00:22:02.800 we're standing there and I hit it with a black light and he goes, this is like three days at the

00:22:06.800 condor. I'm like, every time I think they're not going to do something they do. Anyway, that led to

00:22:12.000 me coming out and becoming a whistleblower and, and then seeing what the CIA will do to whistleblowers

00:22:17.440 and the perfected system. That's why you never hear about CIA whistleblowers. They have a perfected system

00:22:23.040 of, of career destruction. If you talk about anything that you see that is criminal or illegal or

00:22:28.480 whatever to, to, to, uh, classify it, seal it, put it under the state secrets privilege.

00:22:35.120 And, and they threatened me and my wife and kids with prison. If we talked about the evidence I

00:22:39.920 collected to anyone. And then I was, that was it. That's it. So I wrote from the company of shadows,

00:22:44.880 came out, went, uh, first not knowing to the Washington post and said, I'm a former CIA officer.

00:22:51.040 I want to come out with a story. And, uh, the reporter was like, oh, okay. Yeah. Uh,

00:22:56.480 he started calling me and over 30 days, I gave him the story of unclassified story over 30 days.

00:23:03.600 He kept calling and asking questions that required classified answers. And I wouldn't give them to

00:23:08.880 him. This went on finally. I said, look, look, uh, Charlie Savage at the New York times wants this

00:23:13.440 story. So if you're not going to do this and you keep this up, I'm going to give it to him.

00:23:16.800 No, please. My editor, my editor is on me to ask these questions. Well, yes, he was editor was Bob Woodward,

00:23:23.440 uh, mockingbird, uh, poster child, Bob Woodward. And it turns out that that post had gone straight

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00:24:29.280 it's interesting now because I, I'm now realizing that I know nothing about history. And so many people

00:24:34.640 think it was this brave thing that Bob Woodward did and was in contact with deep throat, but it was

00:24:38.800 actually the state overthrowing Nixon. Like it was, it was a deep state overthrew Nixon. They wanted him

00:24:44.000 out and then they wanted to make it so like it was this like heroic thing to the public.

00:24:47.920 And so actually Nixon was a victim of the deep state, just like JFK was before him. And so

00:24:54.480 realizing that, that Bob Woodward, his claim to fame is I had a source. Yeah. Your source was the CIA

00:25:00.320 that was trying to, to radically oust a president, stage a coup essentially. So you realize

00:25:08.560 then at that point, and by the way, just to slow this down, I know people that watch this already

00:25:12.240 know about Operation Mockingbird, but it is really one of the most crucial ones to understanding the

00:25:16.880 mainstream media web. The CIA puts this into place and quite literally just puts journalists on the

00:25:22.080 CIA payroll to be able to control the information that's out to the, getting out to the public after

00:25:27.920 JFK gets shot. They're worried about what's going to happen. The public is asking too many questions.

00:25:32.960 So they just want journalists to all say the exact same thing. And we still see this today. There was

00:25:38.480 no discontinuation of Project Mockingbird. So you make the mistake of going, there must be a

00:25:43.840 noble media member at the Washington Post. Yeah, that was all in the past.

00:25:47.680 It doesn't continue today. Well, it does. And what year is this, by the way?

00:25:50.000 What's that? What year is this that you're dealing with?

00:25:51.840 Let's see. That would be 2012. Okay.

00:25:56.080 And then that's when I wrote from the company shadows. So yeah. And then, and then I started

00:26:00.640 experiencing firsthand, uh, other, uh, major publishers. When I wrote from the company of

00:26:05.760 shadows, no, no, no, no, we can't touch that. We don't want to make the CIA mad. And the CIA had

00:26:10.000 threatened a lot of journalists and a lot of, uh, publishers don't touch, don't touch anything

00:26:16.240 against the CIA. So they were all terrified. And plus the editors of the Washington Post,

00:26:21.440 the Washington Post is one of the founders of Mockingbird, Philip and Catherine Graham.

00:26:24.480 Same with the New York Times.

00:26:25.200 What's that?

00:26:25.600 One of the highest paid ads.

00:26:26.960 New York Times. Yes. Time Magazine.

00:26:29.440 They had 400, more than 400, uh, reporters, uh, and news anchors on CIA payroll when Operation

00:26:36.240 Mockingbird started. Um, and now, uh, they funk, they operate two ways. A journalist

00:26:42.800 with any major news media or, or news periodical knows that if they investigate, do a real investigative

00:26:49.680 piece on the CIA, they're done. I mean, their editors tell them that many editors have a quid pro quo

00:26:55.520 with the CIA, uh, not to report negatively on the CIA. And there's some major news organizations that

00:27:00.880 people watch that do not, that have that relationship. And so if they say anything

00:27:06.160 negative about the CIA, the CIA will stop feeding them stories so that they can get the first scoop

00:27:12.000 and cut them off. And that's going on right now with, uh, several well-known news organizations.

00:27:18.160 And I mentioned the one with the CIA and the Pope in, um, so, uh, clearly going on. Then this last

00:27:24.400 administration, thank God, which is out the back door, uh, started what's called the trusted news

00:27:29.840 initiative where the CIA signed an agreement or the associated press, the Washington Post,

00:27:35.040 of course, um, and all four social media companies in the trusted news initiative signed an agreement

00:27:41.120 with the DNI and the CIA not to report, to censor certain pieces of information on all social media

00:27:46.800 and in the reporting, literally signed a, uh, an agreement not to do that. Now, when you sign a CIA

00:27:52.640 agreement, uh, especially if there's money involved, they'll put you under a non-disclosure agreement

00:27:57.280 with the threat of prison, if you talk about anything you're not supposed to talk about.

00:28:01.600 And that's how the CIA controls journalists. That's why there are no whistleblowers until

00:28:06.400 recently, uh, because of the NDA. You come out and you talk about this, you're going to go into

00:28:11.280 prison. You sign a secrecy agreement as an officer, never to put anything out without the CIA approving

00:28:17.040 it, which means they'll redact or black out the entire thing, which they did my first book,

00:28:21.440 uh, and, uh, and sit on it for a year or two. That's what they do every single time.

00:28:25.600 And, uh, some of that's in the book. It's really compelling to consider that you

00:28:30.560 did what you thought was an act of service, trying to rescue the lives of other CIA servicemen,

00:28:35.120 report this, Hey, this must be by accident that we have this exposure to them, that people can

00:28:39.840 access their information via visa application, whatever it is. And this resulted in you being

00:28:45.680 poisoned. Like they were just gonna, they were just gonna poison you and your family because how

00:28:49.200 dare you? And it was a direct order. Of course, my mind is instantly running. Why would they not

00:28:54.240 want to deal with that? Of course, if they realize that CIA servicemen can be killed.

00:28:58.800 And then of course, my mind then instantly goes to, because they kind of wanted them to get killed

00:29:02.640 so they could, you know, declare an act of war against whatever target it is. They killed somebody

00:29:07.040 in the CIA. And you know, it was, it was a, this is their favorite, a remarkable intelligence failure.

00:29:12.560 They were somehow able to access the information by accident. We had no idea.

00:29:16.480 Exactly.

00:29:16.960 In reality, they wanted these people to be harmed.

00:29:20.560 Why would they not take care of something that clearly put their agents lives at risk? Why would

00:29:26.000 they leave it there to the point of covering it up, threatening me and then taking the report off,

00:29:31.360 off the CIA server, unless they wanted that vulnerability there to use? If there was a,

00:29:37.360 say a chief of station, it wasn't planned by the, by the book or they wanted to plausible denial for

00:29:43.120 some operation that went bad to blame, you know, how, how it happened. And that's the only logical

00:29:48.960 conclusion.

00:29:49.520 I just think of false flags. It's like somebody gets hurt and then you say you had no idea how this

00:29:52.960 happened and now we have to retaliate because our guys are getting killed or somebody high up got

00:29:57.600 killed. And of course we're going to defend, you know, we're going to defend the homeland.

00:30:01.280 And this is something that people are asking all the time, like how many false flag attacks have

00:30:04.480 there been where they allowed these remarkable security failures to happen?

00:30:08.560 Several.

00:30:09.440 A lot.

00:30:10.240 Several from goodness gracious, from the Vietnam war with the Gulf of Tonkin, that was a false flag.

00:30:15.680 The Vietnamese ships on the radar attacking, those were fake. The CIA added those on the radar that

00:30:21.840 they gave to Congress. The Vietnam war was started by a false flag and look at 50,000

00:30:27.520 American soldiers died. And a million Vietnamese civilians died because of that. And then you go

00:30:35.280 to Iraq, the false intelligence from Iraq, 500,000 Iraqi civilians, 2,500 U.S. troops were killed,

00:30:44.800 and 200,000 U.S. service personnel were badly injured because of false intelligence from the CIA.

00:30:50.880 Remarkable intelligence failure.

00:30:53.040 Even Pearl Harbor. They had warnings of it happening that they chose to ignore. I was watching this whole

00:30:59.840 documentary on it and I was like, oh, okay. It was just a remarkable intelligence failure. They

00:31:04.400 heard that it was going to happen and then it happened. And then what do you know? We're in World

00:31:08.160 War II. And this just really gets into the military industrial complex because they need to make sure

00:31:13.840 that the public is on their side. And that is why this book, Chaos, blew my mind. To think that the

00:31:18.480 Charles Manson murders, which fundamentally changed. People were so traumatized by how graphic these

00:31:23.520 murders were. And to know the CIA was there that night. I mean, what that Tom O'Neill uncovered

00:31:28.960 and almost dedicated his whole life to it. He was flat broke and just filing FYA requests for years,

00:31:35.360 realizing that the public thought that Charles Manson just hypnotized some people to do these crazy

00:31:40.320 things. But in reality, everything we know about the Manson murders, this guy was MK Ultra. He was

00:31:44.720 trained by the government. And this was an order for people to, I guess, to just end the hippie

00:31:50.960 dream. They wanted to go to war. The hippies were to love rock and roll. And leading up to the Vietnam

00:31:56.800 War, LBJ, bloodthirst, Vietnam, Cambodia, it's incredible the lengths they will go through to

00:32:03.600 get the public on the side of war. It's extremely upsetting.

00:32:07.680 And then even in that, back in the 60s, that was a pretty much Project Mockingbird because he

00:32:13.760 explained how all the press then was watching, writing every minute, every detail, because they

00:32:18.880 wanted to traumatize the press. And these moments are traumatizing. Pearl Harbor, traumatizing. I

00:32:24.000 always go back to my propaganda as a child in school, 9-11. And now I think back at it, I'm going,

00:32:30.720 oh my gosh, just the words they use. And they don't want to think about anything but the emotion of it,

00:32:35.280 right? And so we get in line and we go, okay, yeah, no, we're totally okay with establishing

00:32:40.160 TSA and giving up all of our freedoms in order for us to stay safe.

00:32:43.120 Yeah, gutting the Constitution.

00:32:44.320 Gutting the Constitution because all they're doing is showing us these images and talking

00:32:47.520 about terrorism. And I was in the classroom and they're telling us, you know, in order to be safe,

00:32:51.520 to keep you safe. And then we have to go to war and we can't just quickly say,

00:32:55.920 war in Iraq is okay. Don't even ask questions, even though there were Saudis in the plane.

00:32:59.600 All it takes is something very traumatizing to happen. Operation Mockingbird in full effect.

00:33:06.000 And you can, in most instances, get the public to be persuaded to go into a war,

00:33:12.800 a conflict that they know nothing about.

00:33:15.200 You nailed it. You nailed it. Yes. And in terms of 9-11, I taught criminal investigations at a college

00:33:23.120 and I did investigations, obviously, espionage investigations. In the agency,

00:33:27.920 a criminal investigation was never done on 9-11. They automatically blamed it on terrorism.

00:33:33.280 They didn't examine any of the evidence. As a matter of fact, they bust out all of the iron and steel

00:33:38.400 on barges to China the next day. And they made these ridiculous, and you know, they,

00:33:43.760 when they do their propaganda, it seems so stupid on its face, but they repeat it so many times.

00:33:49.680 For example, well, we can prove that it was such and such

00:33:53.360 hijacker that flew the plane in the building because we found his passport laying on E Street.

00:33:58.960 So stupid.

00:33:59.680 What?

00:34:00.160 What? Let's see. The plane was incinerated. The floor above and below the plane were incinerated.

00:34:06.080 There was absolutely nothing left of the attack.

00:34:08.160 In fact, the building was powder. But amazingly, they found this passport that proved their narrative.

00:34:14.400 Oh, and there's more.

00:34:15.120 This year, we did a two-episode series on 9-11 to go backwards because I was a child.

00:34:20.080 And to show people, we found these old clips and showed them,

00:34:23.360 do you realize how much we relied to about 9-11? Like, it's just unbelievable. When you,

00:34:27.280 when you look back at everything they told.

00:34:28.800 Astounding.

00:34:29.440 Astounding. And then the things that they ignored that happened that day,

00:34:32.800 and the presence of the Mossad that was there, and they just never really answered the question.

00:34:38.000 Tower seven.

00:34:39.120 Tower seven was very clearly just dropped to the, come on.

00:34:42.720 You cannot explain that away.

00:34:44.080 I mean, and then they, when you learn even more, which I didn't even show on the show about

00:34:48.240 the art students that were there, that were also intelligence agents.

00:34:51.440 Yeah, Israeli art students.

00:34:52.720 And then weeks leading up, just like.

00:34:55.200 It's like, what a coincidence.

00:34:56.720 What a coincidence.

00:34:58.000 And I did some research on plane crashes, as I'm sure many of your viewers have.

00:35:02.400 And every single plane crash, especially a large aircraft, there's always, always wreckage

00:35:08.000 left of the parts that can't be blown apart. The landing gear and the engines specifically.

00:35:13.840 A lot of times the nose cone. Well, Shanksville, Pennsylvania, no wreckage whatsoever.

00:35:20.400 The Pentagon, there were no engines. There were no, none of the landing gear, nothing.

00:35:25.600 And yet there were servicemen around that said, I've served in active military.

00:35:29.520 It was a missile. I can tell you the sound of a missile. And they ignored all of this. And then

00:35:34.080 we even pulled an old clip of a CNN journalist who was on the ground that day and said, I got up

00:35:38.480 close. There's no plane. And they just kind of tried to wipe this from the internet.

00:35:41.520 Yeah. And so we had to dig up this. I'm like, you had a CNN journalist who was just probably

00:35:46.240 telling, just telling the truth. And he's like, I'm here. This is amazing. Like I got up close.

00:35:50.240 There's no plane. Yeah.

00:35:51.120 Yeah. And you just see this perfect hole. And then you have all these people who know,

00:35:54.800 who have been active, active military zones, who said, I heard a missile that day. They don't

00:35:59.440 release, they classify images of the plane. The videotape from the gas station.

00:36:04.080 And who knows when Tom Fitton and Judicial Watch was finally able, and you can't see anything.

00:36:08.960 Yeah.

00:36:09.200 It's like, what hit the Pentagon that day?

00:36:11.440 Something, yeah. Just directly.

00:36:13.520 And then they call us conspiracy theorists.

00:36:15.040 Yeah.

00:36:15.520 Yeah.

00:36:15.840 Which is a part of Operation Mockingbird. The CIA created that term.

00:36:18.320 The CIA created that. And yeah, I've got a copy of that memo. People calling people

00:36:21.840 conspiracy theorists. Well, let's just change that and call it conspiracy investigators. How about that?

00:36:28.320 Which is what we need these days, you know? So.

00:36:31.520 What do you mean you got a memo of conspiracy theorists?

00:36:33.600 There's a memo where finally a Freedom of Information Act request was answered and they

00:36:38.720 gave a memo where the CIA said, responding to the JFK assassination, we need to respond to

00:36:44.000 the conspiracy theories that are out there about this shooting. And that's where the conspiracy

00:36:47.840 theory label came from, was from that memo. And that's an easy, used to be an easy out to brand

00:36:56.240 somebody a conspiracy theorist to avoid the facts like 9-11. There needs to be a criminal investigation

00:37:02.320 despite the destruction of evidence of 9-11. There never, there never was. And in the book,

00:37:07.120 Alvin Buzzy Krongard, who ordered the CIIG to silence and destroy me because of what was

00:37:13.280 on that base or dirty tricks on that base. Alvin Buzzy Krongard, George Tenet's XO came directly

00:37:20.000 from Wall Street. Alex Brown's and Sons was his corporation. Krongard didn't want anybody to know

00:37:27.600 this, but he'd been affiliated with Wall Street with the CIA for years. And, and Tenet and he made it

00:37:33.680 look like that was his first stint and he just brought him in from Wall Street. Well, that wasn't

00:37:37.840 true. He was associated with the CIA for years. And a few days before the planes hit the towers,

00:37:43.680 Buzzy Krongard's company sold, short sold all their stock in United Airlines and American Airlines.

00:37:49.840 And in the 9-11 report, which is almost like the Warren Commission report, uh, they didn't really

00:37:55.360 want to find anything or, uh, they mentioned there was some short selling going short selling,

00:38:00.720 meaning, you know, something's going to happen. So you sell your stock for more cheap.

00:38:04.320 Uh, uh, there were some companies that short sold stock in the airlines. Uh, uh, but we found

00:38:10.320 nothing there. Same with like Larry Silverstein who like purchased the insurance on it just six weeks

00:38:14.800 before. Yeah. Yeah. And we found no trace that Al Qaeda had funded it, you know,

00:38:19.600 uh, well they, Buzzy Krongard's not mentioned because he was the one that his company sold

00:38:24.960 those short sold those stocks, but it's stuck way down in a footnote in the 9-11 commission report

00:38:30.560 that there was this company and blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, that's in our book.

00:38:34.000 Now, which company was this?

00:38:35.280 This was Alex Brown and Trust, which was later bought by the Deutsche Bank. Buzzy Krongard came over

00:38:40.720 acting like he was only making a dollar for service of his country when in reality he made 71 million

00:38:45.360 dollars off the sale from Alex, Alex, uh, uh, uh, trusts and sons to Deutsche Bank before he came with

00:38:52.560 the CIA. He was a multimillionaire, but he claimed that, you know, he was doing it for, for a country.

00:38:57.600 Uh, so, and it was, it was Buzzy Krongard that went after me, uh, when I uncovered that vulnerability

00:39:04.160 and, and, uh, ordered this CIA IG, and I, I named the name of the IG person at the time

00:39:10.640 to, to, uh, personally attack me. I was approached at an offside. I was a program manager for Department

00:39:14.880 of State after that. And, uh, the pro, the former senior IG official that was there when they were

00:39:20.640 ordered to destroy me had retired and he'd come with this company I was with. He comes over at this

00:39:25.520 program manager conference and he sits down and, and I knew him. His name is Larry. I can't give his last

00:39:30.720 name. Larry goes, Kevin, I need to talk to you. I said, yeah. Larry goes, listen, I was on the IG

00:39:36.160 when your case hit, we were ordered to silence and destroy you. This is a CIA IG. He said, I just

00:39:42.880 wanted to apologize, uh, for what they did to you. And I said, uh, that's great, Larry. I wish somebody,

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00:40:58.560 propagandized those agents have to be to realize you're working for an agency that is sending you

00:41:03.120 out to destroy somebody who has worked for this agency, which means they're teaching you loyalty

00:41:06.880 that they are not ever going to reciprocate to you. And that doesn't come online for these agents.

00:41:11.600 I think about that all the time as I'm unpacking all of these things and what the CIA has been involved

00:41:15.520 in. And, you know, I was even speaking to a guy about the moon landing and how many people got killed,

00:41:19.680 you know, very bizarrely died in mysterious circumstances. And you just wonder when you

00:41:24.160 see these agents, like, when does it come online? You're not a part of them. Like there is a very

00:41:29.920 small elite who realizes that if they make you think that you're in the cool club, that you'll

00:41:34.720 do anything for them, that you'll put your lives on the line. But to them, to the people at the very top,

00:41:40.080 they'll replace you tomorrow. They'll kill you tomorrow. You know, you're as good as you can serve

00:41:44.080 them today. And it's just interesting to hear that, that they were sent to go destroy a CIA agent,

00:41:49.520 as if they weren't a CIA agent. I would go, I'm working for the wrong place if you're asking me

00:41:54.160 to destroy someone that's a colleague. For what? Because he tried to save other colleagues.

00:42:00.800 Yeah. And he's exposing this base that we've been trying to hide for decades and

00:42:05.280 all kinds of bad stuff that they'd buried there. Yeah. And I'll tell you, the 20%, the top 20% of the CIA,

00:42:13.440 especially at the highest levels, they're malignant narcissists. They do not care about human life.

00:42:19.920 Now that the 80% below, there's a lot of good patriotic, you know, America loving people just

00:42:25.440 doing their job. But the 20%, that's where the darkness and the evil is because they do not

00:42:30.800 believe in democracy at that level. And they could care less about the constitution, obviously,

00:42:36.640 because they break federal law all the time. They broke it in my case several times.

00:42:40.560 So it's that top dark 20% that are doing the same things they've been doing since MK Ultra was

00:42:46.480 initiated. And MK Ultra was in place for 20 years. That was not a short program.

00:42:50.640 I think it's still in place.

00:42:51.760 Well, you got to ask yourself, yeah, why would Thomas Crooks shoot, take a shot at Donald Trump?

00:43:00.000 And you look at his background, of course, it's under investigation, so they're not going to release.

00:43:04.160 Yeah. But this guy, this guy had three encrypted overseas bank accounts, which I haven't heard

00:43:08.800 anybody investigate that. He had no history of criminal violence, no threats. He was a brainiac in

00:43:14.560 school. He'd received an award as an honor student. Of course, he was in a Black Rock commercial,

00:43:19.200 but in my opinion, that was just a coincidence because they were bright students they were

00:43:22.480 interviewing. But this kid had no history, no inclination to do that. And yet one day he climbs

00:43:28.560 up and does that. Then there's Sirhan Sirhan. And both Bobby Kennedy and I are absolutely convinced

00:43:34.400 that Sirhan Sirhan was an MK Ultra, a program by MK Ultra. He had no memory of shooting Bobby

00:43:42.160 Kennedy Sr. And when they went in to hypnotize him, they said he was so easy to hypnotize. They

00:43:47.680 had him climbing up and down the walls like a monkey. They could make him do whatever they

00:43:51.760 wanted and he would do it. He's just, that's just the way his mind was. Like it had been really badly

00:43:56.240 messed with. So I think Bobby Kennedy and I are convinced that was an MK Ultra subject too.

00:44:01.200 Yeah, I'm very convinced that he was obviously murdered. And somebody also was telling me,

00:44:05.840 someone on the PBD podcast was telling me, there's actually a book that's super interesting,

00:44:08.960 that it wasn't even him being stabbed that killed him. Basically, one of the things that you also

00:44:14.080 learn in this chaos book, which is the same, which is that there are corrupt medical examiners.

00:44:18.880 And after people die, he was telling me that there was an injection that went into his neck and

00:44:23.280 that killed him instantly. So there's always a lackey and then there's supposed to be someone that

00:44:27.920 makes sure that the job gets done. And so that's one, I haven't had time really to explore that

00:44:32.400 death. I really want to look into that, but it's very likely, you can always tell in the manner

00:44:38.080 and the swiftness that they locked down an investigation and want the media to move on.

00:44:41.360 Because why would the media move on so quickly from someone trying to shoot President Donald Trump if

00:44:45.520 it wasn't because we were going to find who was implicated was going to be the CIA. And I also was

00:44:50.000 stunned by how every network was covering that rally. Like every network who hates Trump was there that day

00:44:55.920 and was covering it. And I think about that now when I think about these sort of mass psychoses

00:45:01.520 that is supposed to come out of these events. If everyone's watching and he's speaking,

00:45:05.280 and then he gets shot on camera. And then afterwards, when they already had it ready to go,

00:45:09.120 they said, you know, Iran did this. Do you remember this?

00:45:11.360 Yeah. Oh, yeah.

00:45:11.920 I'm like, what? Thomas Crooks and Iran? Like, come on.

00:45:15.360 We received intelligence from Iran that this was baloney.

00:45:18.960 Yes, of course it's baloney. Oh, so this random kid was really hooked up with the Iran regime.

00:45:23.840 CIA propaganda.

00:45:24.880 Absolutely. And I'm thinking, does anybody believe this nonsense that Iran had anything to do with

00:45:28.960 this? Like, this is the state trying to take out Donald Trump. And I'm going, please, Trump,

00:45:32.560 do not accept that. They obviously have trained this kid. And it's funny you remark on him being

00:45:37.200 a brainiac because a lot of these, and I'm blanking on his name and maybe one of you guys can tell me,

00:45:43.760 the Connecticut shooting, the school shooting that was horrific. Adam Lanza was another one of these

00:45:50.400 brainiac kids. And the FBI gave him a visit after he was able to hack into their computers when he

00:45:55.840 was really young. And they said, well, you may work for, you know, the FBI one day. And it's,

00:46:00.720 and I don't know if it's alleged or if the, if I actually read this in a mainstream media article

00:46:04.080 that he was visiting Yale often. And we know, like, what was he doing? So he gets a visit early

00:46:09.680 on because he's a brainiac. Next thing you know, and you can see in his eyes, he looks drugged out

00:46:13.520 of his mind.

00:46:14.320 Absolutely. And so these are the questions that I would have thought years ago was a conspiracy

00:46:18.720 until I really learned about what the MKUltra program was. I mean, we're talking even attempts

00:46:24.480 to turn someone into a psychopath by sexually assaulting them when they're young, sodomy,

00:46:29.360 all of these things. Our government did this.

00:46:31.920 Yes, they did. They did. They used sexual violence. They used torture, putting them in frozen rooms,

00:46:38.560 hanging them. They used extreme amounts of LSD, extreme amounts of electroshock.

00:46:43.760 The original idea was they were trying to, to create assassins that would go kill somebody

00:46:50.320 and then have no memory of the event. Surahan, Surahan.

00:46:53.920 And also John Lennon, the night that he was shot, the CIA was there that night.

00:46:57.920 Yeah. And these normal average people, successful, many times intelligent people,

00:47:03.840 just go out and do these horrific things with no prior warning or indicators behaviorally at all.

00:47:10.000 Uh, and, and, and then, uh, with Adam Lanzi, you look in his eyes and some of these people's eyes and

00:47:16.480 his brain was, was on, he'd been on something for quite a while. I mean, that's pretty clear. He was,

00:47:23.840 he'd been driven mentally insane. And that's what Ultra was designed to do to, to, uh, to train, uh, criminal

00:47:30.320 killers, but that who would not remember what they did and to train couriers as mules who would

00:47:35.680 courier information over to intelligence agencies and then forget the information that they were

00:47:40.800 just given also to do that. Um, and then to do enhanced interrogations even way back then.

00:47:47.280 And the torture program was not just waterboarding by the way. Uh, but they, to do, uh, enhanced

00:47:52.880 interrogations back then. And that's what MK Ultra was all about from, um, uh, Jolly West Lewis,

00:47:59.840 who was, he was the chief of psychiatry at UCLA and denied any involvement in MK Ultra, which was

00:48:07.200 developed by Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, who was the madman of the program. And, uh, Jolly Lewis, um,

00:48:14.160 J West, he went by sometimes, uh, West claimed that he had no, nothing to do with MK Ultra.

00:48:19.280 And, and he would sue anybody that said that he did and up until he died. Well,

00:48:23.680 Tom O'Neill did a superb investigation where he went to UCLA and found his West's, uh, notes and

00:48:31.520 records that UCA hadn't, UCLA hadn't gotten, gotten rid of yet. And he went through there meticulously

00:48:37.040 and he found correspondence between Dr. Sidney Gottlieb and, uh, uh, West about MK Ultra

00:48:43.920 and how they were going to try to hide it and try to move it out in the field and made that

00:48:47.520 connection right there. Shocking part of the book. Yes. And in, in Haight-Ashbury, um, Jolly,

00:48:54.000 Jolly West Lewis had, uh, his MK Ultra office right next to Haight-Ashbury clinic. And they would refer

00:49:00.720 people over. And some of the people that O'Neill interviewed that were involved in Haight-Ashbury

00:49:05.200 said, oh yeah, uh, Manson and the girls came to see, uh, Mr. West often, all the time. And then they go

00:49:12.000 out and do this horrific murder. Uh, that's beyond imagination. Uh, come on. Uh, I think he really

00:49:18.640 hit on a, uh, a, uh, a big truth there. No, he did. And that's why I say you have to read this book

00:49:24.080 because it really, you really have to confront how evil our government has been and therefore is

00:49:28.960 because they have not, it's not like there was some mea culpa. We did this and we're sorry.

00:49:32.240 They just keep these things up and they keep gaslighting us and they keep pretending that these

00:49:35.920 people are one-off Looney Tunes. And then you realize that there is some connection

00:49:40.080 with an MK Ultra program or the government had visited them or they were brainiacs.

00:49:43.360 Exactly.

00:49:44.320 You really, really have to understand what the MK Ultra program is. And so it completely changes

00:49:49.520 the way that I view all of these events because I don't view them as random at all.

00:49:52.640 It should.

00:49:53.200 I know that they want us to view it as random. And I, and it's so interesting to see as more and more

00:49:58.240 things get exposed, you know, we have the Diddy case and all of the same elements are in everything.

00:50:03.360 Drugs and people not remembering things. Feds are somehow involved in the Diddy case are saying,

00:50:09.360 you know, he had a number that he could call. This was being alleged by the person who brought

00:50:13.920 the lawsuit forth and really exploded things that the LAPD, very similar to Charles Manson,

00:50:19.040 there was a person that was working for the feds that could just make things disappear and they

00:50:22.560 could rely on the media to lie about things that were happening. Shocking. I'm going, but not so

00:50:26.960 shocking once you realize this has been going on at least since the sixties. And so that also brings us

00:50:33.200 into the Jeffrey Epstein thing. I was about to mention that.

00:50:35.520 Yeah. So the Diddy, the Diddy is kind of like the Hollywood of the Jeffrey Epstein,

00:50:39.520 which is something the media worked very hard to bury for a very long time. And the most compelling

00:50:45.200 part of the Jeffrey Epstein thing is how they just sort of released him, uh, and allowed him to live

00:50:51.760 in his house at first. And when questioned about this, what's his name? Acosta. Acosta said,

00:50:58.000 I was told as a judge that he was intelligence and that is the reason I could not prosecute him.

00:51:04.160 Right.

00:51:04.320 There was somebody above me who said I could not prosecute, prosecute this asset.

00:51:08.640 That's right. That's right.

00:51:10.080 What are we to make of that?

00:51:12.000 What do you think about Jeffrey Epstein?

00:51:13.280 Epstein was a C.I. Mossad asset that was recruited and was doing a blackmail operation.

00:51:19.520 I think that's crystal clear. No question about it.

00:51:21.680 It tends to be the party guy, just like Diddy.

00:51:24.960 Drugs.

00:51:25.440 Drugs.

00:51:25.920 Yeah.

00:51:26.320 Cameras, drugs.

00:51:27.200 Drugs.

00:51:27.440 The C.I. as part of MKUltra had Operation Climax where they would lure

00:51:31.200 jongs in with drugs and prostitutes. And then this drunk C.I.A. schmuck would sit on the

00:51:36.480 opposite of a two-way mirror and take notes on what, you know, uh, just evil, wicked stuff.

00:51:41.360 And, and, uh, that's what they're using Epstein for was blackmail operations. And they got some

00:51:46.000 pretty high level people snared into that. And they're, they haven't released it,

00:51:50.240 released the entire list of Epstein, close Epstein confidants, but, uh, um, you know,

00:51:57.520 Israel's former prime minister was one of them. Um, so, uh,

00:52:01.680 Which prime minister?

00:52:02.640 Uh, uh, uh, Bahud, uh, trying to remember, uh, um, you'll have to, you'll have to check it.

00:52:09.200 I'm drawing a blank on his name. Bahud something.

00:52:11.200 Bahud Barak?

00:52:12.560 Yes. They got a picture of him visiting Epstein at his New York apartment.

00:52:16.160 And, uh, he was well-connected to Epstein, but that was all in secret.

00:52:18.560 When that, that is the intelligence part of Mossad. And, and of course they couldn't do

00:52:23.360 that without coordinating with the CIA. So that I asked this question now, the more I learned,

00:52:27.120 there just always seems to be this connection between the CIA and the Mossad and going,

00:52:31.760 is it just the same organization? I get the more you look back into history and it's always somehow

00:52:37.680 the CIA and the Mossad is there on the day that JFK gets shot. We learned about like MLK. We learn

00:52:43.440 about 9-11 and then we're just going, okay, why does it seem like there's a union here,

00:52:48.080 a marriage here?

00:52:49.600 Mossad is like the sister of the CIA. They're joined at the hip, but kind of like Siamese twins.

00:52:54.640 And they use each other for Intel and operations and things like that. They're extremely close

00:53:00.160 and in an extremely sensitive relationship. Oh yeah.

00:53:02.400 Wow. And, and this is, it totally explains what Epstein was doing. And also Ghislaine Maxwell's

00:53:07.520 father, Robert Maxwell, when he died. And didn't he die rather mysteriously? I'm not sure.

00:53:12.240 Uh, he fell off. He found dead off his yacht floating in the water. They claimed it was a heart

00:53:17.600 attack. Of course.

00:53:18.720 Just when he was coming under scrutiny for arms dealing and connections with the CIA and being

00:53:23.600 a Mossad agent, actually a double agent with Mossad and KGB. All of a sudden he's found dead floating

00:53:28.720 next to his yacht, you know, and- Happens all the time.

00:53:31.440 Oh yeah. It's just, yeah. Yeah. Just one of those things.

00:53:33.920 But a ton of Mossad agents and I think a former prime minister of Israel attended his funeral.

00:53:38.320 Yeah.

00:53:38.400 So it's like, guys, hey, maybe, Elaine.

00:53:41.760 It's very difficult that they find out the hard way to cover up the truth because it's

00:53:45.520 going to leak out, you know, somewhere. And it's good investigative journalists and people like

00:53:50.080 yourself that look for those leaks and then start digging, which is what we have to do because

00:53:54.400 we're being lied to constantly. Our government has not changed since Pearl Harbor. It is the same.

00:54:00.880 The CIA is the same at the upper levels. They're doing the same kinds of things.

00:54:04.880 I was an agent on William Casey's detail and one of my posts was in his house and

00:54:11.840 just underneath where he was sleeping. And we'd have to, we were protecting him and

00:54:14.800 Comedie had a price on his head. So we were intimately next to William Casey there and in his office.

00:54:21.040 And when we were driving in the motorcade, but none of us knew

00:54:23.360 that Casey had done an operation to kill a suspected imam by planning a car bomb outside

00:54:29.920 the mosque and setting it on a timer. Well, the imam that they, that they claimed was a terrorist

00:54:35.920 came out near the car bomb, but one of his patrons asked him a question. So the imam turned around to

00:54:40.800 go back, but the timer was already set. Bomb went off, killed 64 women and girls at the girls' school.

00:54:47.600 And it turns out it was the wrong imam. Well, Casey was doing that. We were living in his house.

00:54:52.320 We didn't know because we weren't up in that 20%. That's what I'm talking about. That's where the

00:54:56.160 darkness is. And when, thank God, Bobby Kennedy's in there now. And I hope the Trump administration now

00:55:01.280 will start hacking away at that top 20%. And in, in twilight of the shadow government, we call,

00:55:06.560 I call me and Kent for reform of the CIA and removal of that covert operational power

00:55:12.480 that it has to conceal its, what it's doing through secrecy. I'll tell you one thing. The last,

00:55:16.560 Kennedy, that wanted to shatter the CIA, did not live to tell about it. They are, they are in

00:55:22.720 extreme danger, not just in, in United States, but from global powers, both, both Donald Trump and

00:55:28.640 Bobby Kennedy, without question. And it's, and I think it really is waking up the masses to this

00:55:33.360 so people understand this and don't think that these events are random, that offers protection to

00:55:38.000 them in many ways, knowing that like, that you're not going to run the same operation Mockingbird and

00:55:42.000 try to tell us that a random person tried to shoot Donald Trump. Like we are going to

00:55:45.600 speak about the truth. And you always know when you really have a right to the truth because of

00:55:50.320 the way the media attacks you. And the way that I've seen the media, once I started getting interested

00:55:54.080 in this and the media attacking me, I'm banned from Australia. I'm like, I've never committed a

00:55:58.800 crime in my life. How do you get banned from a country you've never committed a crime in your life?

00:56:01.600 That is so ridiculous.

00:56:02.240 And it's just like, I'm on, and I'm on the ADL's list and I'm going, okay, it's because I'm telling the

00:56:06.080 truth. And when you start speaking real truth to power, of course, the Mockingbirds don't like

00:56:10.960 it. They are sent down to try to destroy you. Intentionally. Especially you, because you're

00:56:15.600 coming out with the truth unvarnished. And there's no question about that. And of course,

00:56:19.920 they've done the same thing with me, conspiracy theorists, rogue CIA employee, paranoid.

00:56:24.800 Totally crazy. We worked with him for years and we thought that he was so intelligent that he was

00:56:28.000 a part of the 2%, but now he's a wacko. Yeah, but now he's a rogue wacko. You expect that. And

00:56:33.120 you know, we should consider that a badge of honor. I do. And that's why, look, I even put

00:56:36.800 it on my conspiracy theorist. I sell it. I couldn't care less. I'm like, yep, you got me. I know that

00:56:41.680 you created the term and we're going to go ahead and embrace that because we know exactly what you're

00:56:45.040 up to. Okay. So now we have to do this thing and I'm going to ask you, and by the way, this,

00:56:49.680 we're not putting this to be fact, but like after I spoke to Judge Joe Brown about MLK and he was,

00:56:53.680 he was the judge in the case and he was then being attacked by the feds. They shot into his house 15 times.

00:56:57.840 Crazy for him to be telling the background of that. And he was like, this is how they killed him.

00:57:02.720 The FBI killed him. Here's the gun they use. They kept the guns. It was incredible to hear him say

00:57:06.880 this on the show. But now we're going to go back in time and I'm going to ask you who you think did

00:57:10.480 each of these huge events. Okay. The killing of MLK Jr. We are told that it was this random guy who

00:57:18.000 happened to have a couple of extra passports on him that day. Yeah. Is he the murderer of MLK Jr.? No, that was a

00:57:25.360 CIA operation because they considered him a dangerous communist. And the FBI was bugging

00:57:31.680 the, uh, in churches where he was giving some of his speeches in churches. They were bugging the

00:57:36.320 podiums and following him around. He was a top target for elimination. So, uh, and, and what,

00:57:42.640 what the CIA does is CI specifically, and sometimes the FBI, there's always a boogeyman. And so it's one

00:57:49.280 person. Well, this person did. Osama bin Laden did it. So let's move on. We got him. So it's over.

00:57:54.720 You know, they always have one person. That's the, that's their MO. That's a scapegoat. We got

00:57:59.680 him. The whole operation is over. We solved it. Now forget about it. And, and, uh, that was the

00:58:05.280 case with, with Martin Luther King. Same MO. They used that same MO over and over and over. Timothy

00:58:10.560 McVeigh. He was the only one that did it. I forgot about that. Timothy McVeigh. Yeah. He was MKUltra.

00:58:15.360 And there were other bombs in the building that, that were reported initially and then deleted from

00:58:19.920 the media coverage and on and on and on we go. Okay. JFK. We are told that this guy just shot him

00:58:28.800 and then another guy heroically shot the guy who shot the guy. And then as you learn in the chaos

00:58:34.160 book was visited by, um, Jolly West while he was in prison. And then he was suddenly insane the next

00:58:40.000 day when the judge saw him, who was involved. Do you believe this, the official storyline of how JFK

00:58:46.880 was killed? Absolutely not. Uh, for starters, uh, is, have you read the book,

00:58:51.920 The Secret Team by Fletcher Prouty? Oh, I would recommend that book to everybody. Fletcher Prouty

00:58:56.720 had high level access in department defense and CIA tickets, but they forgot to get him to sign a

00:59:02.720 non-disclosure agreement. So when he saw all this and how they played, played all these things,

00:59:08.000 he came out and he wrote The Secret Team. And in The Secret Team is his witness account of the JFK

00:59:13.680 assassination. And there was a, a well-known CIA operator from Vietnam up until that point named

00:59:21.200 Edward Lansdale. And there's a photograph of, of the three mysterious men being walked by the sheriff in

00:59:27.680 front of the, the book depository and walking by them as one of them smiled was Edward Lansdale,

00:59:34.480 well-known CIA operative and Prouty, Prouty worked with him. He knew him. He knew what he looked from

00:59:39.920 behind. He knew about the ring on his finger and he identified Lansdale as a CIA operative. Uh, George

00:59:45.680 Bush made this mysterious phone call that day claiming that he was in, he was in Dallas. Now George H.W.

00:59:52.240 Bush, long time CIA operative, although he tried to, tried to deny it. He all the way going,

00:59:57.360 went all the way back to Cuban missile crisis. He was a CIA operative. And when he was president,

01:00:01.440 CIA in the White House, AKA Iran-Contra, and then they promoted him. Uh, so, uh, Edward Lansdale was

01:00:08.240 there. Uh, there's no question about that. Bush called in and said, I think something may happen

01:00:13.040 today. And I don't know. I just wanted to warn you about it. I'm in Wisconsin or wherever he said he

01:00:17.760 was. He was in Dallas, Texas and phoning in a fake phone call that day. Uh, Oswald without question had

01:00:24.240 been recruited by the CIA sent over to Russia as to try to be a double agent and came back.

01:00:29.520 Uh, uh, was he the only shooter? Absolutely not. The CIA was then working with the mafia

01:00:35.920 and, and JFK had, had fired Alan Dulles, the devil incarnate as we've called him. Uh, uh, and

01:00:43.120 Alan Dulles, he fired Alan Dulles. So Alan Dulles was having secret meetings with other CIA officials

01:00:48.320 that were now out of there, how to get rid of JFK because he was his arch enemy. He fired him.

01:00:53.840 This guy was a power hungry director. So they were having meetings on how to get rid of JFK,

01:00:58.640 JFK rather. And so when, uh, the murder happened and the Warren commission was put together,

01:01:04.160 guess who was in charge of the Warren commission? Alan Dulles. Alan Dulles, who coached all the CIA

01:01:09.600 witnesses what to say, what not to say, and forbade some of the others from even testifying at all.

01:01:14.960 They put the Fox in charge of the hen house. Uh, I mean, come on. And then the questions they asked,

01:01:21.920 as you know, were just absolutely ridiculous. So yeah, I think that was a CIA hit and they,

01:01:26.800 they may have employed some mafia connections to carry it out because that was their mafia

01:01:30.800 assassination. Exactly. And LBJ was very involved in all that in Dallas. And so he was an evil man.

01:01:35.040 He was an evil man. I believe he knew that he was going to get shot because they wanted him in the

01:01:38.480 position because they wanted to go to war every single time when they, when they decided they want war.

01:01:41.840 And what did LBJ do? Henry Kissinger, that they just went to town in Vietnam, uh, went to town in Cambodia.

01:01:48.880 I mean, they just, they just didn't stop the murder of Americans, not realizing that this is how things work.

01:01:55.120 Yeah. Okay. What about Pearl Harbor?

01:01:57.120 Pearl Harbor, uh, Admiral Ace Lyons. I don't know if you've heard of Admiral Ace Lyons. I had a, a, uh,

01:02:02.720 radio program called the Intelligence Hour several years ago. And Ace had become a friend of mine because

01:02:07.840 we were working on exposing Benghazi and Ace Lyons was commander of the Pacific fleet back during that

01:02:14.000 time. And I asked Ace Lyons about Pearl Harbor and he goes, I am still angry to this day. And I said,

01:02:21.360 why? He goes, because they knew the attack was a coming, was coming. They knew where it was going

01:02:27.040 to happen to Pearl Harbor and when, and they, they told no one and they let it happen on purpose.

01:02:32.960 That that's from the commander of the Pacific fleet. I would say that's a pretty, pretty credible

01:02:37.280 witness. So yeah, that, that was a false.

01:02:39.680 They admitted that they admitted they had the, they heard it was going to happen. And you know,

01:02:43.360 how else were you going to get Americans to be on the side of this war that had nothing to do with

01:02:46.320 us, you know? Exactly. And it's that, that MO is repeated on and on and on and on and up, up through

01:02:51.680 Iraq where the Pentagon even had the Pentagon analyst program. And they were going on Fox news and all

01:02:57.360 these generals that were recruited in this, in this propaganda effort going on, pushing the Iraq

01:03:02.720 war. You remember on Fox news and others there, these generals on promoting, well,

01:03:06.960 that was a propaganda operation by the department of defense called the Pentagon analyst program.

01:03:11.360 So you have to learn about Sigmund Freud and then behind him, Edward Bernays and learn about

01:03:16.080 the world war II propaganda, make people every day, just see Germans as the enemy, enemy, enemy.

01:03:21.360 Then we have this big event happen and the boys sign up and they go to war and they get killed.

01:03:25.760 And it's, it is, it is the exact same thing every time, you know,

01:03:29.040 remarkable intelligence failure. Now we're being drafted in because we have a right to defend

01:03:32.800 ourselves and we must get involved now with this war that has nothing to do with us. And now we're

01:03:36.880 in the middle East, which is nowhere near us, but we're, and so, which brings us to 9-11, your opinion.

01:03:42.480 My opinion, as a criminal investigator, as a former CI officer, 9-11 was not the act of a bunch of

01:03:50.960 poorly flight trained terrorists that executed an unbelievably meticulous

01:03:57.280 piloting of those aircraft, even, even pilots. There's pilots for 9-11 truth now. And they say,

01:04:02.000 we could not have done that. Experienced pilots could not have made those maneuvers, not possible.

01:04:07.360 And then we go to the passport issue and we go to the tower seven, which was a controlled demolition.

01:04:12.160 Obviously.

01:04:12.640 You talk to any structural engineer and I have, well, that was a controlled demolition. I mean,

01:04:18.720 it was perfect. And then you look at the facts that just don't add up and the facts that were

01:04:25.280 left out of the 9-11 commission report. And then the ridiculous claims that they made, the lack of

01:04:30.320 airports, airplane parts, excuse me, no landing gear, no, no engines, which we talked about. So

01:04:37.360 all of that put together and the fact, I think George W. Bush blacked out, I think it was 40 pages

01:04:43.440 of the 9-11 report dealing with Saudi Arabia. And the report came out, the 9-11 commission report

01:04:50.080 came out, but those pages were blacked out and he refused to unredact them. So what, wait a minute,

01:04:55.920 this report was supposed to be for the American people on what happened. And you blacked all these

01:05:00.720 pages out. What in the world? I do not think that it was a bunch of poorly trained or untrained terrorists

01:05:07.360 that did it. I think there was another source behind it. I think it was intentional. And I'm

01:05:11.360 going just from a criminal investigative perspective, just looking at the evidence,

01:05:16.960 what evidence we have, that that was an intentional act. And it would fall right into the MO that you

01:05:22.800 and I are talking about, horrible event, because human life does not matter to the shadow government

01:05:28.080 deep state, or especially the CIA. It does not matter. They're pawns on their chessboard. They don't

01:05:33.600 care that 3,000 people were horribly killed that day, but it achieved the aim of gutting the U.S.

01:05:39.120 Constitution, bringing in the horrific Patriot Act, giving the CIA unthinkable authority for secret

01:05:45.600 prisons and torture beyond waterboarding and secret renditions and all of that. The FBI,

01:05:53.360 the ability to spy on Americans came out of the Patriot Act. So it was the perfect

01:05:58.880 national security state energizer that the Patriot Act was. And 70 of the congressmen and senators that

01:06:05.680 read the Patriot Act didn't even read it. They just signed off on it without even reading the bill.

01:06:10.560 So, yeah. I mean, that's my view. And it's just- It's my view as well. Just factually.

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01:07:03.360 and like I said, it just follows that same MO every single time. Horrific event, and then yelling at

01:07:08.080 everybody, don't even ask any questions of what we do next. If you do, you're a terrorist

01:07:12.160 sympathizer. All you care about is defending the terrorism, and at least you don't care about your

01:07:17.120 safety. And I think there was just one lone congressman who said, we absolutely should not

01:07:21.200 be signing the Patriot Act. And the media came down on him very hard. How could you have this

01:07:26.320 perspective? 3,000 Americans have been killed. Again, that emotional conditioning to make us not

01:07:30.800 even think about actually the probability that it's just an evil government that is willing to kill people

01:07:36.240 to further its imperialistic aims, whatever that may be, whether it's they want oil, whether they

01:07:40.640 want more land. And so I'm hopeful that people wake up to this because now that I am very aware of

01:07:45.680 this pattern, now that I have confronted the evil of our government, I am deeply fearful, as you said,

01:07:50.720 for Kennedy and Trump and recognizing that if you're talking about coming up against the deep state,

01:07:55.840 the deep state is quite the enemy to come up against because they have killed presidents,

01:08:00.320 in my view, and they will kill as many Americans as it takes to retain their power.

01:08:05.200 And I think we have the right team to do it. I think even having it be Kennedy with the history

01:08:09.920 of the Kennedys and Trump and his ability to just keep going. It's remarkable. It is remarkable that

01:08:16.080 we really do have this chance. And at the same time, people waking up to what the mainstream media

01:08:20.160 is. So Operation Mockingbird is failing, which for the first time doesn't work anymore. So they can

01:08:24.320 keep that operation going. It's good for business for me. That's right. It is. I mean, it's so encouraging.

01:08:30.320 Yeah, it is. It's very encouraging. And so now you can hear them starting to have the conversation of,

01:08:34.480 we've got to get a handle on these podcasters with their misinformation. And go ahead, make our day,

01:08:40.000 make our day because the people are awake. Okay. Give everybody the name of your book and where

01:08:46.640 exactly they can find it. Guys, this is a must read. You absolutely must read this book.

01:08:50.320 It's called Twilight of the Shadow Government, How Transparency Will Kill the Deep State.

01:08:55.920 I wrote it at some risk because the CIA blacked out, redacted information in my last book from

01:09:00.640 the Company of Shadows that was unclassified, violation of Executive Order 12356. It's a felony.

01:09:06.800 And so I knew that in this book, they were going to either redact the majority of the revelations

01:09:11.600 that we write about or sit on it for a couple of years. So I gave it to the CIA and let them have it

01:09:17.920 for three months. There's an old law that said they have to get it back to you in 30 days. They'd

01:09:21.600 never abide by that based on constitutional freedom of speech, but they never abide by that.

01:09:26.640 So I let them sit on it for three months. And after three months, Kent Heckenlively, my courageous

01:09:32.080 co-writer, we said, all right, they asked me for approval. Can we send it to the publisher? And I said,

01:09:39.360 do it. So we sent it to Skyhorse and published it before the CIA approved it.

01:09:43.440 And it's the only way I could get this out. I took some personal risk, which

01:09:47.920 I'm glad to do because it's so important. We don't know what the CIA is going to do,

01:09:52.560 whether they're going to try to take my royalties from the book, which they usually try to do.

01:09:56.000 I mean, I've already been threatened, poisoned, broken into. It's like, whatever, you know,

01:10:01.360 but someone had to take the risk to do that finally, to expose what the CIA is.

01:10:05.680 Where can people go to support you aside from buying the book? Like, is there anywhere where

01:10:08.960 people can go to just support you in general? Because I just think that when you see someone like this,

01:10:12.880 who's actually, because actually, it's funny that you say Skyhorse published it because

01:10:16.160 when my publisher, when my producer first said, do you want to get this guy on?

01:10:19.520 I instantly went, okay, is this going to be a limited hangout? Limited hangout is when like,

01:10:22.800 you know what I'm talking about? The CIA allows people in the CIA to come out and pretend.

01:10:26.960 And then when I saw that Skyhorse was publishing, I said, oh no, this means that they,

01:10:30.240 like the publishers will not publish his book. And he's, he has to go to a more independent type

01:10:35.120 of publisher because I'm dealing with that same thing. They won't, they're not,

01:10:37.680 I'm not allowed to publish my book anywhere. Even though I had a New York Times top selling first book,

01:10:41.680 they basically go, oh no, no, no, no, this girl can't be published anymore. So when I saw that,

01:10:45.120 I said, oh no, this guy's the real deal. They're obviously closing doors on him intentionally.

01:10:48.640 And I violated my NDA. No CIA officer has done that before.

01:10:51.440 We've got to support you. And we've got to make sure people know your name,

01:10:53.920 know what you're doing. And so anything shady happens to this guy, we all know who did it.

01:10:58.400 But where can people just go to support you in general?

01:11:00.160 Well, there's my YouTube channel, KevinShip1. And most of my videos there are free. I'm on

01:11:06.880 Twitter now, X. It's at Kevin underscore ship. And I post things about this regularly.

01:11:11.680 Uh, or they can find me through Skyhorse. Um, uh, and the, the book twilight or the shadow

01:11:18.080 government is a mission for me. I don't know if I'm going to be able to keep my royalties.

01:11:21.920 I have some, not please start a go, uh, not a go fund me, give, send, go.

01:11:25.360 Yeah. And with a Christian company, give, send, go. And we will support you because we are,

01:11:29.360 I'm like, you know, we are, and it's, it's just funny that you're Christian because I have just felt

01:11:34.800 this is the Christ is King year and Christ is truth. The way that you, you must just follow

01:11:40.640 the truth and be willing to face the consequences. I have done that this year. And it's just funny to

01:11:45.680 hear your background story. Oh, my life got saved because people were praying over me. I left the

01:11:50.000 CIA because a woman randomly said, do you know about Jesus Christ? Yeah. And here you are. Yeah.

01:11:54.880 And you realize why they, why, why you were saved when you were young. Yes.

01:11:58.560 Why you were chosen to go through CIA. You weren't chosen by the CIA. I believe you were chosen by the

01:12:02.480 Lord to do that. Yeah. And because he wanted you to see it upfront so that you could have,

01:12:06.720 you know, the, you would be able to speak to the public about what we are actually confronting

01:12:10.960 and you have survived the poison. I mean, you've got like a lot of lives going on here, the cat.

01:12:15.600 Yeah. And so in every capacity that we can support people like this, you guys, I am like,

01:12:20.560 we've got to do it. This is what the people that are just trying to tell the truth. So if you do start

01:12:24.960 a give, send, go, if they try to take your royalties, please email us. We will be the

01:12:28.480 first people to be like, and that's what I've been, I'm knocked off of YouTube. I can't make

01:12:33.360 any money on YouTube. And so we turned to locals and people, $1 a month, $2 a month. The people

01:12:40.000 are doing this. We exist because of the people. That's the way to do it.

01:12:42.160 It's the best way. I don't care about the publishers. I don't care about any of that stuff.

01:12:45.280 It's the only way to do it. We are creating a network of people that know that Christ is king

01:12:49.280 and that the truth wins in the end. Amen. And we just have to keep going.

01:12:53.120 My wife Sue has set up a GoFundMe page, so we'll see what happens.

01:12:56.000 Tell her to go to give, send, go, please.

01:12:57.600 Okay. I'll do that. Yeah. Tell her to go to give, send, go. And if you send it to us,

01:13:00.800 we will tell people to support you guys. And they will, trust me, my audience, they're hardcore.

01:13:05.760 Awesome. They don't care what the media says. They actually like it. Like I said,

01:13:08.960 the media calls you a conspiracy theorist. Oh, that's awesome.

01:13:10.960 They're like, we can trust them. And we, you know, they probably will come after my royalties.

01:13:16.240 I know that in advance, whether they're going to try to say,

01:13:18.880 there's something classified in this book. Let's get them for that. Well, I was a classifying authority.

01:13:22.720 I know what's classified and what's not. They can try to make that accusation. I don't think

01:13:27.280 they will because there is the possibility that they don't want publicity for this book because

01:13:33.360 no CIA officer has ever done this before and it does not make them look good. So we'll see.

01:13:38.640 We'll see what happens. Ladies and gentlemen,

01:13:39.920 we are going to include the link to his book below. We're going to hope and pray that the,

01:13:44.400 they don't take his royalties, but if they do, who cares? Because we are, we are bigger than the CIA.

01:13:48.880 We are. That's right. That is the reality. There's more of us than there are of them.

01:13:52.080 And hopefully there are some CIA agents watching this that are getting the clue here. Like,

01:13:55.200 you know, you're working for people that don't really care about you. So why don't you join,

01:13:58.720 join the people, join the freedom, join the truth movement. Kevin, I cannot tell you,

01:14:02.800 it has been such an honor to have you. These are the conversations that just enrich me,

01:14:07.600 enrich my audience, help us to learn and grow and remind people that the truth team is winning.

01:14:14.880 That's right. I really do believe that. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for having me.

Candace Owens - November 08, 2024

Former CIA Officer Exposes The Shadow Government ｜ Candace Ep 100

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