Candace Owens - July 30, 2025


Harvey Speaks： Exclusive Interview On His Retrial


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Harvey Weinstein speaks with Candice Bergen about the Epstein mistrial, and why he thinks the judge should have declared a mistrial. He also talks about why he believes there's something wrong with the New York court system.

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00:00:15.220 Well, Harvey, it's good to speak with you again.
00:00:18.020 Nice to hear your voice, Candice, and see you.
00:00:20.500 How are you feeling?
00:00:22.300 Well, you know, it was a mixed up trial. You know, we had jurors, you know,
00:00:27.340 you know, in the middle of the trial say they didn't want to be there.
00:00:32.560 And I mean, you know, towards the end of the trial, you know, it got very, very serious
00:00:38.400 with one of the jurors and who just said, I won't be in the same room with the people who are making
00:00:45.640 the decision. And, you know, I have spoken to five or six judges, three or four close friends of mine,
00:00:55.560 some I just know. And I may have never experienced what we experienced in the courtroom with three
00:01:01.960 jurors complaining about the proceedings as they were going on.
00:01:07.220 Yeah, I was following that in the news. And obviously, the jurors were pretty explicit to
00:01:11.440 the judge that they felt that there was intimidation, that some of them were being mistreated according
00:01:16.600 to whether they were coming on one side of the issue or the other. And so I was very surprised.
00:01:22.200 And I tweeted actually out on X. I don't see how they can't say this is declared this an
00:01:26.820 immediate mistrial. And they didn't. They didn't declare it an immediate mistrial.
00:01:32.120 Well, we wanted it declared a mistrial. Arthur Ayodala, my head lawyer, Arthur and Diana are
00:01:37.480 fabulous. And Mike Sabella and Jennifer Bonjean, I had a fabulous team. They rose and, you know,
00:01:44.260 said one time after another, this is a definite mistrial.
00:01:48.140 Yeah. And at one point I was, you know, frustrated and I addressed the judge myself and I said,
00:01:54.980 your honor, this is a matter of a profile and courage. It's not important enough to keep the
00:02:00.120 trial going. Something is radically wrong here. When there are playground tactics, when somebody is
00:02:07.040 being threatened, I'll take you outside and we'll settle this outside. That's not the way to settle
00:02:13.220 somebody's life. In this case, my life. Why do you think the judge didn't declare a mistrial?
00:02:22.140 I have no idea. I have no idea whatsoever. I think he maybe thought he could power through it,
00:02:29.360 but you can't power through those things. Those things are too important.
00:02:33.060 You know, Harvey, I have to say on some matters, I think that you remain, I would almost say,
00:02:40.380 optimistic when it comes to the court system, even in making a plea to the judge. And I can just tell
00:02:46.420 you on the outside, looking in with a lot of the cases that are happening, you know, there's big news
00:02:51.520 regarding the Epstein case that, you know, they're just kind of going to leave it alone and we're not
00:02:55.720 going to get any client lists. There's been the Diddy case, which happened last week, and he got great
00:03:00.920 news despite overwhelming video evidence that one of his producers had. And even with Justin
00:03:07.440 Baldoni, you know, elements of his case getting dropped that people feel are unfair. All of these
00:03:13.880 having taken place majority in New York, people are wondering if the system is even fair. Forgetting
00:03:20.860 your case, but just taking a look at everything on a larger picture. Is there something rotten in the
00:03:26.860 New York system? Well, I certainly am, you know, sickened by the results. You know, there's no reason
00:03:34.760 that with this trial shouldn't be a mistrial. And so you can add me to those voices, you know, who feel
00:03:42.740 that something's wrong with the system. This is a terrible outcome. But have you have you considered
00:03:49.840 that it could be deeper than that? And I know that I've asked you this offline, but that there was
00:03:55.640 somebody who wanted you put away, that there may have been someone who wanted your company. I mean,
00:03:59.540 these are genuinely the questions that I have asked myself when looking at your case, because to me,
00:04:04.000 there is just overwhelming evidence that you were set up here. Like, there's just no objective look
00:04:10.220 at the evidence, in my view, that you could come away going, Carby Weinstein is definitively guilty.
00:04:16.280 And someone like Diddy, who we have on camera beating a woman, is definitively not guilty. I just,
00:04:23.060 I have to ask you that question. Well, I just have to say that, you know, the district attorney
00:04:28.500 in this situation is relentless. They will spend and have spent millions of dollars. They flew to
00:04:34.940 Australia to confirm with one of their, to confer with one of their clients. They flew to Washington
00:04:40.240 State to confer with the other one of their clients. They will spend whatever it takes to spend.
00:04:45.720 They hired an expert witness who told the jury that it's okay for Mimi to have, to quote, say that I 0.99
00:04:56.740 raped her and then have consensual sex with me two weeks later. You know, that that was normal 0.97
00:05:02.940 at $750 an hour plus expenses. You're hard pressed to find anybody who wouldn't say what that expert said
00:05:11.980 for that kind of money. But they said it in the court and the district attorney paid it. I am sure
00:05:18.780 when they got paid through with that bill, you know, I mean that $750 an hour, you're talking about 0.99
00:05:24.920 $50,000 to get an expert witness to say that it's okay to have consensual sex with your rapist. 0.98
00:05:32.420 Common sense, common sense was thrown out the window. You can buy anything. And apparently the DA bought that 0.97
00:05:41.700 that, that instruction, that advice was paid for.
00:05:46.840 And that's what I'm saying, Harvey. Like I said, I've, I've looked at this case deeply and it looks to me
00:05:51.900 like a modern day hit. And I'm sorry to say that I genuinely think that for whatever reason, I don't know
00:05:57.340 who you upset. I don't know what they were after, but it just looks to me like a rigged system and they took
00:06:02.760 you out. And there are some, a cast of characters are involved that make me uncomfortable. I mean, Gloria
00:06:07.640 Allred's name. I don't know that she's ever lost a case. And I think back to even when Michael Jackson
00:06:13.040 was, was trying to publicly signal. And again, this is all allegedly, he's no longer alive.
00:06:18.320 That Gloria Allred was a part of sort of this team of people who can just take people out when they
00:06:23.440 want to. And I can't ignore that. I can't ignore those things. I can't ignore what's happening to
00:06:27.340 you. I can't ignore the overwhelming evidence. To me, it looks like it was just a show trial and the
00:06:31.980 outcome was already determined before you even stepped into that courtroom.
00:06:34.600 Well, Gloria Allred came to me with Mimi when she first announced Mimi's trial. She went to my 0.67
00:06:42.580 lawyers and said, for $750,000, pay us off and we'll go away. And we didn't pay him, you know,
00:06:51.260 because we thought it was absolute nonsense. And, and also there were term limits at that point,
00:06:57.300 but she made a deal with the district attorney to waive the term limits in return for Mimi's 1.00
00:07:03.020 testimony. So, I mean, a deal was made by Gloria Allred. Gloria Allred is the villain and one of
00:07:11.620 the villains here. And she made the deal to prove what you say is true.
00:07:17.500 And that to me is not unlike the structure of a modern gang. You know, you pay us, you pay us and
00:07:24.220 you'll be fine. If you don't pay us and you're going to have trouble. And it looks like you walked
00:07:27.680 away from the deal. You could have given her $750,000 and she would have gone away and you opted
00:07:32.820 not to. And you have been fighting for your life ever since. You know, it's, it's one of these things
00:07:37.580 that, like I said, the conversation is very different from when you went in and this conversation would
00:07:43.060 have been impossible a few years ago, but people are starting to see that this isn't a coincidence
00:07:47.840 that this keeps happening, that the same characters are involved from even the publications. I mean,
00:07:51.640 the New York Times, you, Justin Baldoni, you know, they publish a piece absent a lot of information
00:07:57.300 and then suddenly the attack dogs are out in full force. Well, even the New York Times in this
00:08:03.900 situation, you know, amazing as it is, you know, I mean, with the, with the investigation that's going
00:08:10.100 on with the New York Times, they did a piece about the jurors and what the jurors went through on this
00:08:15.980 trial. And they had four or five jurors and their testimony to the incredible nature of being
00:08:23.540 threatened by one another during this trial. So, I mean, the New York Times, you know, just to bring
00:08:30.720 it up is there's a young man named Clark Patterson who just wrote an article about the New York Times
00:08:36.360 and wrote an article about the two journalists who wrote the first hit piece on me. And I think if
00:08:43.340 you tangle with the New York Times, you're dead. You know what I mean? They have infinite resources
00:08:48.280 and they will call up those resources and they will go after you, no end. And he wrote a piece,
00:08:55.140 you know, we had the courage to write a piece. It's an MSN and it's on Medium. The full 17,000 words
00:09:01.520 is on Medium. And, and nobody, nobody is out there rushing to publicize the fact that the New York
00:09:10.220 Times original piece about me was wrong, you know, and they actually judge of this world and the 0.98
00:09:16.780 other, and the Rose McGowans and all of what they said was bullshit. I mean, nonsense, excuse my 0.98
00:09:23.960 language, you know, and, uh, this reporter captured all that, but there's no public outcry, you know,
00:09:31.340 uh, with his piece, but I think it's going to get there. I think slowly, but surely it's working its
00:09:36.680 way up through the system, but it's slow. Yeah. And my, you will definitely find a sympathetic
00:09:42.080 audience with my audience because we speak about this often. I think the only way that we can make
00:09:46.780 sense of the present is to look at the past. And I have examined the New York Times through the lens
00:09:51.200 of how they were created. I mean, we've been wrongly, I think, deluded to believe that journalists
00:09:55.940 are sort of this like fourth estate that they protect against corruption. They're a part of the
00:10:00.440 corruption. Historically, the New York Times had a relationship with the CIA. That is just a fact.
00:10:04.960 It is a fact that is available at anybody's fingertips. They are an extension of the state.
00:10:10.020 Um, and so that is why when I, when I ask you those questions and I was not surprised when they
00:10:14.620 chopped up Justin Baldoni's lawsuit because he went after the New York Times, you can't win against the
00:10:19.040 New York Times. Judges have lost going after the New York Times saying that the New York Times was
00:10:24.060 defaming them as I've shown on my show. When I look at that and I think that the New York Times was
00:10:28.960 initially, uh, the people behind them went after you. I do think that you stepped on somebody's toes.
00:10:34.160 Like there's somebody's toes that you stepped on that you may not have been aware of when you
00:10:38.780 were in Hollywood because you had a lot of power. You had a lot of power.
00:10:42.700 I agree with you, Candace. You know, looking back on it, you know, there are definitely people,
00:10:48.720 you know, I can't say who.
00:10:50.960 Why not? Why can't you say who? What do you have to lose?
00:10:53.560 Because I, because I'm not sure that I'm right. You know, I think maybe I, I will say that I think
00:11:01.900 there are people whose toes I stepped on. And I will also say, I think there are politicians whose
00:11:07.640 toes I, whose toes I stepped on. And as a result of the two forces being linked together and you throw
00:11:14.640 in the New York Times and you have enormous prejudice against me and an enormous fight against me and an
00:11:22.080 enormous, I don't know what to say, you know, you know, just a force against me of all these forces
00:11:30.460 coming together, but it's weakening. It's weakening. It's weakening because of you. And, and I, I can't tell
00:11:38.620 you that having done your interview, how many people come up to me in whatever little street credence I
00:11:45.920 have now. Cops come up to me, workers come up to me, wherever I'm at, wherever I'm out, people come
00:11:52.820 to me and say, I saw you on Candace. I saw you on Candace. Keep up the good work. Keep up your good
00:11:58.780 work because you're cracking that system. And Clark Patterson is out there cracking that system too.
00:12:06.540 You know, they, it won't, it won't permeate forever and it's not as strong as it thinks it is.
00:12:12.360 It's not. And we're seeing that the fraying is happening now, but I really want to push you on
00:12:17.300 this point, Harvey, because I think, I think it's very significant. Who were the politicians' toes
00:12:22.460 that you stepped on? And not, we're not making any allegations against them, but I, it certainly is,
00:12:27.940 it's interesting. It's, it'd be an interesting rabbit for me to chase to know which politicians
00:12:31.980 you think you may have upset, because I'm telling you the New York Times is an extension of the state.
00:12:36.560 Well, I think that, um, you know, with the Ombra situation, you know what I mean? I got off with a
00:12:44.140 miss, not even a misdemeanor. I just got off with, uh, you know, you know, just, uh, an understanding
00:12:50.620 that Ombra was an unreliable witness. This is the woman who taped me, made the telephone call,
00:12:57.560 set me up with the police officers and the police officers wanted to prosecute me. And I think that,
00:13:03.660 um, as a result of me getting off, what I had was I got jurisdiction in Italy and in Italy,
00:13:11.860 I got my people to go to the judge in Italy and open up sealed paperwork, which admitted that when
00:13:20.820 she was 17 years old, she was living in a house paid for by her pimp, 5,000 a month and getting a 0.58
00:13:29.200 thousand dollars a month, sexual Congress for having sex with this guy, not her pimp, I guess 0.97
00:13:35.140 her boyfriend, you know, you know, whatever, but she was paid for sex. And then she also went to a 1.00
00:13:41.700 party, a bunga bunga party with the prime minister of Italy, Berlusconi. And she also complained to the
00:13:48.640 press about that. She later on said her boyfriend raped her in Italy and she had huge, huge press. 0.72
00:13:55.820 So when this situation happened with me, she just wanted huge press and she got huge press.
00:14:02.800 She became a famous person. But when I got off Cyrus Vance, who was the district attorney was accused
00:14:09.760 of leniency in my situation. And then when the New York times published its piece, they went after me
00:14:17.380 held to leather. So I think Cyrus Vance was one of those people who wanted to see me, you know,
00:14:23.500 uh, um, you know, screwed and, uh, and certainly went out of his way. You know what I mean? With
00:14:31.100 an incredible, you know, force that they put together in the district attorney's office to
00:14:37.700 convict me the first time.
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00:17:09.220 that possible. Do you know, Harvey, I had a very interesting conversation recently with Courtney
00:17:15.540 Love, of all people. Oh my God.
00:17:18.540 Yeah. She had a very interesting take on things. She says a lot and I think that there is a lot of
00:17:27.240 sense to what she shares. And something that she was speaking to me about regarding cases is that
00:17:32.520 she said that in Hollywood, she was aware that sometimes the press will go after someone and
00:17:38.660 she wasn't referring to your case because they want publishing rights. Like she's like, you know,
00:17:42.800 a person grows too big or they own a catalog of something and then they'll start making up rumors
00:17:47.280 about this person. The next thing you know, he's forced to sort of sell his company. Kind of similar,
00:17:51.640 by the way, with what happened with Michael Jackson. If you take a look at that case,
00:17:54.240 he had almost owned the Beatles catalog. He was definitely fighting Sony and winning. And then
00:17:58.580 suddenly these allegations began swirling. And so in my mind, I thought, you know, Harvey Weinstein,
00:18:04.020 he had a lot. I mean, you had the greatest movies that were in Hollywood. You had a lot of power.
00:18:08.180 And I'm wondering if there was anybody in Hollywood that you may have been fighting with at that time,
00:18:12.880 like whether it was, you know, another producer or another company or, or an individual that it just
00:18:20.380 anything that could have been going on. Cause I think there's something bigger happening here.
00:18:23.940 There wasn't a fight per se, but nobody enjoyed my, the inner sanctum of Hollywood did not enjoy my
00:18:31.300 success. The people enjoyed my success. The people who went to movies, the young filmmakers,
00:18:37.840 you know, the people who believed that they could do it too, if they just had an opportunity to do
00:18:43.720 it. But the establishment, I would not say was my friends. Right. And who, what is the establishment
00:18:50.360 in Hollywood? It's normally the big studios, you know what I mean? And, uh, and it's, you know,
00:18:56.680 it's the big studios, but I, I can't say that they put me into a New York times article. You know,
00:19:02.980 I can't, I can say that there was animosity, but I can't say that they were part of this.
00:19:08.860 Right. No, I'm just wondering like who in the end, who owns all those movies now? Who owns,
00:19:14.440 who owns your catalog? What happened? We sold the, we sold the catalog to, um, uh, a company called
00:19:21.820 B in, you know what I mean? Which is owned by the Qatari government. And, uh, and, um, we sold the
00:19:29.440 other part of the library to a company called Spyglass and Lantern, which is owned by the Saudi
00:19:36.120 Arabian, uh, government. Very interesting. I'm asking these questions because my investigation
00:19:41.780 into this isn't going, isn't going to stop with the conclusion of your trial. I just think that
00:19:45.740 there was something more sinister that was happening. I've always had that instinct and
00:19:49.940 on the basis of things that I've just been reading this year about Hollywood and the things
00:19:54.080 that have happened, I do think that it was very intentional. So what happens now with your case?
00:20:00.740 What happens now with my case is that Arthur Ayodala is, you know what I mean, circling the
00:20:06.820 wagons and, you know what I mean, and interviewing the jurors, you know, we're doing the interviews
00:20:12.500 ourselves. And obviously we have the right to bring this situation back up and hopefully the court will
00:20:19.920 listen, but I'm not sure that they will, you know, they have, they, they, they might just turn us 0.98
00:20:26.240 down again and just say, forget about it. Even with all this publicity, even with all the sturm and
00:20:32.820 drang of these jurors, you know, the court might just say, look, they made an opinion, you know,
00:20:38.460 the verdict sticks and you've got to pay the price. So, you know, the district attorney in Jennifer
00:20:45.420 Mann's Jessica Mann situation, we had a hung jury and the district attorney wants to immediately 1.00
00:20:53.720 prosecute that again. They want to go again. And Jessica Mann wants to go again, which just shows 1.00
00:21:00.260 how absolutely off the wall Jessica Mann is. She just wants to continue and continue and continue,
00:21:07.920 no matter how much she has to get on that witness stand. It's her life. It's become her identity.
00:21:14.320 You know, the, the, the victimhood is so strong with who she identifies with. This was a failed
00:21:21.600 actress. And as a result, you know what I mean? In Hollywood, she didn't get what she wanted, 1.00
00:21:27.300 but I was always kind to her. I was always sweet to her. I opened the doors for her. It's just,
00:21:33.680 sometimes I always said to them, I'll open the door, but you have to go through it. It's your talent
00:21:39.420 that wins the game. Even one of her best friends said she didn't go to acting school. She didn't
00:21:45.480 pursue it the way, you know, the great actresses of today and yesteryear went to schools. You hear
00:21:52.900 about all the Jane Fonda, actor studio, Meryl Streep, Yale drama school. You know what I mean? The,
00:22:00.200 the, the credentials of these actresses that have succeeded are unsurpassed the work that they put
00:22:08.880 into their own personal careers. And yet there were people like Jessica Mann who just wanted it to come
00:22:16.180 for free, you know, or wanted it to come through knowing me and, or networking at parties that I
00:22:22.340 invited her to. Well, now she's made now her, I, she got paid $475,000, you know, which is more money
00:22:31.220 than she's ever seen. Uh, um, Mimi Halle, Miriam Halle got $475,000. And the girl who the jury voted
00:22:40.920 not guilty got $3 million, $3 million from the Walt Disney company. She lied. She lied. She was 0.72
00:22:52.320 not, she was found, not, I was found not guilty and she lied and she put $3 million in her pocket.
00:23:01.300 I mean, it's one of those things that if the public could read all of their emails, it's,
00:23:05.960 it's stunning to me. I don't know how they put their heads on their pillow at night. You know,
00:23:09.580 they, if they have any sense of faith, I mean, hell is an eternity. It's, it's scary to me that
00:23:14.720 you could switch so quickly from, I love you and XSXX and smooches. And I see Harvey like a father
00:23:21.520 to suddenly being on the stand. I mean, I mean, just so many emails, I couldn't read them all.
00:23:26.160 I literally did not have the time, Harvey, to commit to reading all of the emails because that's
00:23:32.220 how many there are after their alleged quote unquote, sexual assaults or rapes. And for that
00:23:39.300 to be the case, to have an overwhelming catalog of evidence that shows that this relationship was
00:23:44.480 consensual and to have the public then be told, oh no, actually, but this one time it maybe wasn't.
00:23:50.820 And we have no evidence of that other than their word. It should terrify everyone. That is why this
00:23:55.460 case is so important to me because I have three sons, right? And we can't live in a world where
00:24:00.840 women can essentially throw out their bodies. Like it's the casting couch. That's what they wanted. 1.00
00:24:06.340 They wanted an exchange. These are sugar baby relationships. And then, you know, I'm going to
00:24:11.300 renege on that because I didn't become the next Angelina Jolie. And so now I'm saying that actually
00:24:17.180 I was, I was raped. Well, Jessica, you know, Jessica Mann did exactly what you're talking about. 0.86
00:24:24.100 Mimi Halle did exactly what you're talking about. And Kaya did exactly what you're talking about.
00:24:30.840 You know, there are, there are emails that are filled with good thought, you know, and there's
00:24:36.640 nothing, there's not one disagreement on any of those emails. There's no like Harvey, you were rude
00:24:42.220 to me at a party or you didn't let me in or you didn't get me invited somewhere. They would ask me
00:24:48.680 for tickets. And even if it was an impossible situation, you could see through the emails,
00:24:53.820 the effort that was made to get them into the event. You know, I took these, you know, even after
00:25:00.640 the relationships ended, I took it seriously that they, that they were friendships here and that
00:25:06.580 these were people who wanted to get into the industry. And it was trying to do my part to help
00:25:11.980 them get into the industry. But Kaya broke my heart. We got her into the Lee Strasberg Institute,
00:25:18.100 the toughest school for acting in New York. And she was modeling and making good money. And she said she
00:25:24.820 couldn't afford to go. I mean, but we got her in and she just should have gone, but she didn't go. 0.98
00:25:31.540 She didn't put the work in. It's unbelievable. It is. It truly is unbelievable. And I can imagine
00:25:37.340 that it's, it's difficult for your family to have to go through this. Um, but are you optimistic on
00:25:42.520 the outcome that, you know, once you, once Arthur shows that this clearly should have been declared
00:25:47.820 a mistrial, that they might do the right thing here? Candace, I, I, like you say, with the
00:25:54.460 system, the way it is, I'm not, I'm not optimistic and I'm not pessimistic. I'm somewhere in the
00:26:01.260 middle. I don't know what's going to happen. I really don't know what's going to happen.
00:26:06.400 It's, you know, it's, it's like I said to the judge the first time, it's a profile in courage,
00:26:11.700 you know, to the judge. I don't, I don't think that these, I think there are people way above
00:26:17.320 their pay grades that, that make these sorts of decisions. And I mean, we're, we're speaking about
00:26:21.440 that today on the podcast and we've been covering all of this, but, you know, we're going to continue
00:26:25.440 to cover this, this case, Harvey, and, you know, hopefully the right thing will happen here. If
00:26:30.320 nothing else, this has contributed to an international conversation about what the Me Too movement is,
00:26:35.920 about the fact that people don't actually get justice when they go, you know, when they go through
00:26:40.780 the court system, I would say, especially in New York and Los Angeles, there seems to be a particular
00:26:46.060 strand of corruption that I can't quite figure out. And like I said, you have a case where Justin
00:26:51.840 Baldoni is even seeing the results of that. And he did nothing but try to make a movie with a woman 1.00
00:26:56.640 that he adored, which was Blake Lively and has had his life just raked through the coals.
00:27:03.100 Well, recently, Candace, the international part of what you say is actually happening. There's a
00:27:09.460 Fisher there. And what happened was in Italy, in the, in my, in my case in Los Angeles, which is
00:27:16.660 under appeal for Eugenia Chernichova, the man, Pascal Basadimi is now on trial for perjury in Italy.
00:27:26.980 So, you know, we are hoping that we win the perjury trial and rather than have to go through
00:27:32.460 the years of appeal, you know what I mean? That we would have to go through that if he, if we win our,
00:27:39.160 if we win our lawsuit in Italy, that they could vacate the sentence and we could be free of that
00:27:46.360 charge in Italy, a charge in California. So there, there, it, this is, you know, big news in the world
00:27:55.680 of, you know, this whole Me Too movement that Italy is taking an active stand against the Me Too
00:28:02.700 movement by having this trial. Yeah, that is amazing. When is your LA appeal?
00:28:08.140 When is that case going to be heard? We file it, we file it this week. And, you know, I mean,
00:28:14.880 I don't know how long it could take. It could be a year. It could be two years. I don't know.
00:28:20.180 You know what I mean? Hopefully sooner than later, but I do not know the answer to that question.
00:28:25.940 And you're in Rikers where I should just, just going to mention this. I mean, talking about how
00:28:29.420 rough that prison is, we were supposed to do this call last week and then everything got locked
00:28:34.400 down because there was a stabbing. Is that correct? A gunfight and a stabbing. And, um, you know, I was
00:28:40.740 at, you know, sitting at the dental dentist's office at 12 o'clock with, you know, more than two hours to
00:28:48.160 prepare to go to do the interview. And then the lockdown happened. This is a very rough place. This
00:28:55.000 is an unhygienic place. You don't get your shirts. You don't get your socks. You don't get your underwear.
00:29:01.140 You know, the food is rancid. I mean, it is really awful. You know, the food and it's just,
00:29:08.220 I, it took me five days to get a pillow when I got back and a pillow is in the patient's bill of
00:29:14.780 rights, but I didn't get the pillow. I had to have Arthur and Craig, you know, I mean, lobby the heads
00:29:23.840 of Rikers Island to get a pillow. I mean, and, and I had a pillow and they took my pillow and I guess
00:29:32.540 they gave it to somebody else. I mean, it's just absurd that fighting for these little things that
00:29:38.520 we take for granted. I mean, I've been in upstate New York in prison and those things come to you.
00:29:45.360 You know what I mean? The prisons are run better, but Rikers Island is medieval and it's an, it's an
00:29:51.020 entity unto itself and it's no good. And everybody says it should be closed down. And for once it should
00:29:57.700 be closed down. How are you able to keep your spirits up? I am kind of always amazed that your
00:30:04.980 mind is just always so strong throughout all of this. And I'm just wondering what, what is the solution
00:30:09.700 for you? I have the strengths of my friends, you know, and, uh, and they're not the friends of
00:30:15.920 Hollywood. They're the friends that I grew up with and the friends that I made along the way that were
00:30:21.920 just genuine and nothing to do with my career. And so as a result of my friends and my family and my
00:30:29.140 kids, you know what I mean? I'm able to just live for, you know, hearing their stories, getting a kick
00:30:37.980 out of their stories, you know, um, uh, India told me a story, you know, the other day about her being,
00:30:45.200 you know, uh, with her friends and there was an argument and she didn't want to be there for the
00:30:50.900 argument. And she was able to get out of the house and have somebody drive her and just, you know,
00:30:57.000 just a simple story like that. Just, you know, it, it, it, it's unfortunate that it happened,
00:31:03.080 but it makes my day to watch how ingenious she was to get out of that house when, you know, 1.00
00:31:09.340 when she, when she needed to get out of there. And, um, just listening to the kids and talk about
00:31:15.540 movies and, you know, say, Hey, you know, because we are, we have a tablet and we get movies normally
00:31:22.640 six months later. And my son said to me, Hey dad, you know, I don't believe that, uh, uh, Black Panther,
00:31:29.960 not Black Panther, that Captain America is going to be a good movie. And I said, no, no, it looks
00:31:36.040 good. I've heard it's good. Go see it. And he went and saw it and said that it was terrible. And then I,
00:31:42.240 I, I finally saw it and I had to call him on the phone and said, you know what? You're right. It was
00:31:48.200 terrible, but, but he just went to F one formula one, the Brad Pitt movie. And he said, that was great.
00:31:55.320 And he said, it was really a great movie. And he's a racing car fan. So we loved it.
00:32:00.420 Do you know, I saw hearing their stories, hearing their, their towels makes it is the only thing
00:32:06.160 that keeps me going. Otherwise I would give up. Um, you know, Twitter is a cesspool, but there's a lot
00:32:12.260 of humor on Twitter. And I did see somebody tweeted and it went kind of viral because they did sort of,
00:32:17.340 you know, they're doing all these Disney remakes and they did, um, the Snow White remake,
00:32:22.860 which ended up being a disaster with Rachel Zegler. And somebody tweeted, I don't care what
00:32:27.060 anybody says. If Harvey Weinstein was out of prison, this would have never happened.
00:32:32.780 And I think everyone acknowledges movies have gone downhill since Harvey has been locked up.
00:32:37.620 And it was a very funny tweet. And I totally, totally agreed. This disaster would not have
00:32:41.500 happened. Well, you know, it's funny. Um, you're not to be egotistical about it, but you know,
00:32:48.500 sometimes I watch my movies, you know, because I get them on the tablet or I see them, you know,
00:32:55.400 on television. And, um, and, uh, and I remember the meticulous amount of work that we did,
00:33:02.340 did on every film. We were so meticulous, such perfectionists. And that probably got me into
00:33:08.260 trouble because I had a temper and I was angry, but I saw a movie that we made called Kate and
00:33:14.100 Leopold with Meg Ryan and Hugh Jackman. And I said, this can't be any good. I was successful
00:33:20.140 because it was a romantic comedy and I watched it and it's a charmer. And James Mangold did a great
00:33:26.400 job, you know, on the film. And I, but, but I remember the work that we did alongside of him.
00:33:31.660 It was intense to make a romance, simple romantic comedy, but simple romantic comedy can be so elegant
00:33:39.180 and so winning. I never made breakfast in Tiffany's that's too old, even for me, but it's beautifully
00:33:45.680 done, just beautifully done. And I tried to emulate that and everything that we did.
00:33:51.620 Yeah. Uh, I, I used to love it and this isn't one of your movies, but because you brought her up
00:33:55.560 Meg Ryan, uh, when Harry met Sally is one of my, one of my absolute favorite movies. And it is quite
00:33:59.720 simple, but it's just a good script and it's very funny.
00:34:02.640 Well, she's fantastic in that movie and she's fantastic in Kate and Leopold. She's just terrific.
00:34:08.780 And, uh, what a, what a, what a, just a force of nature that she brought to the whole enterprise. 0.83
00:34:17.280 I mean, and they, you know, like they have her sing moon river, you know, on the fire escape.
00:34:24.220 It's so romantic. It's just a, just a delicious little treat. And I saw shall we dance the other
00:34:30.140 day? Another movie that I made. And I just, you know, I recommended it to a bunch of friends and
00:34:35.800 they had a good time watching it. So some of the, you know, and then, then I try to watch as many
00:34:41.180 new movies as I can. I can't find the great ones, you know what I mean? But maybe they don't have
00:34:46.520 them on my tablet. You know, they don't, they didn't have a Nora or the brutalist or any of those
00:34:52.460 movies haven't been on the tablet, but I'm looking forward to seeing those films.
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00:37:15.120 what would you do? What would Harvey Weinstein's life look like if he just said, you know what,
00:37:18.780 there's nothing? Okay, we're releasing you. First and foremost, kids. I'd move as close to my kids
00:37:25.420 as humanly possible. Second, I would say to myself, am I entitled to make these movies? Will I be
00:37:33.980 canceled? Will I be blackballed? And if I wasn't canceled and blackballed, you know what I mean,
00:37:39.340 I would make movies again. You know what I mean? Not as many as I used to make, but I would certainly make,
00:37:44.500 you know, I have certain ideas about some of the films that I would make. I would certainly,
00:37:51.140 certainly try my best to remake Farewell to Arms and just make it simple and elegant. And
00:37:57.680 the actress who plays the part should be British because she's British in the book. And the American
00:38:04.960 actor should be young rather than Rock Hudson and Jennifer Jones, which was the last version that was
00:38:11.400 made. And you just watch the movie and it's got all the bare bones of the Hemingway thing, but the
00:38:17.480 two actors are so miscast that it's just awful. You know what I mean? I would love to do a simple remake
00:38:24.580 of an elegant, short Hemingway novel, you know, and try to, you know, do something like that. And then
00:38:33.920 there are other projects I hope I could do too. Scripts that I read to try and find out if they're owned
00:38:39.860 by somebody or owned by somebody who would help me make them. I would love to do it again. But if I
00:38:46.180 can't do it again, just to get out and be with my children and to be a part of them, I would, and
00:38:52.480 whatever I did work-wise, that would never be number one as it used to be. My kids is number one. Now
00:39:00.340 my family is number one because they're the important thing. I learned my lesson the hardest way possible,
00:39:07.080 what's important in life. And I sometimes took that for granted more than sometimes a lot. I took
00:39:13.960 it for granted, but I was a good father throughout. The one thing I can say that people do say about me
00:39:20.560 was that I was a good father, but I would be a better father, a lot better father.
00:39:26.680 That's amazing. But that's what I also mean when I say that you're still you, like your passion is still
00:39:30.980 there. You just, you love film and you, you just kind of want to create beautiful films for people to
00:39:35.980 enjoy. And let me tell you, it is desperately needed. Are you reading any books right now?
00:39:40.980 I'm reading every kind of book in the world. I've read hundreds of books. I think I read 300 books in
00:39:47.160 five years. Wow. At least. And I just read a book called Demon Copperhead by Barbara Consalva
00:39:54.000 about Appalachia and that whole crisis with the Oxycontin. And, uh, and I I'm describing it so poorly.
00:40:02.680 It's an epic novel. It's a retelling of the David Copperfield story only set in America in
00:40:09.420 Appalachia. And it is absolutely, it won the Pulitzer Prize for a reason. It's fantastic. And,
00:40:16.960 uh, um, uh, I just, I read that. And then I read the classic. I read some of the classics I read in
00:40:24.720 high school again, but I read everything. I read Lorne Michaels biography. I read Graydon Carter's memoir,
00:40:31.020 Barry Diller's memoir, you know, uh, and then, you know, I read, you know, classic fiction. I'm
00:40:37.140 reading the great divide about the Panama canal and, uh, and, and it's a historical novel. So you're
00:40:45.080 reading all the time, but speaking of the Pulitzer committee, uh, with the research that, that Pat
00:40:52.340 Clark Patterson has done on the New York times, I'm asking the, the, and the research that's been
00:40:58.680 done on Rowan and Farrow's incredibly inaccurate article in the New Yorker, the Pulitzer Prize should
00:41:06.620 reconsider giving those guys to Pulitzer Prize. You know what I mean? I hope they take the research
00:41:12.720 seriously and read it and just say, wait a second, we should take a look at our decision because those
00:41:19.120 pieces weren't about work. They were just, she said, the woman said, this is what happened.
00:41:24.780 And nobody did any research. Ashley Judd, you know, uh, he ruined my career, ruined my career.
00:41:32.360 She had a fabulous career. And what was the movie that I ruined her career on? I was fighting to get 0.98
00:41:39.680 her goodwill hunting to be the girl in goodwill hunting. Yeah. I mean, nobody called her agent in
00:41:45.460 Clark Patterson points out that the two reporters from the New York times never called Michelle
00:41:50.440 Bohan, who was Ashley Judd's agent and said, where did Harvey ruin her career? Where did Mira
00:41:57.160 Servino's career get ruined? Speak to the agent, speak to Warner brothers, speak to a director's talk
00:42:04.780 to Marty Scorsese. Did Harvey say Marty Scorsese don't work with Mira Servino? All they had to do was
00:42:11.740 the research, the backbreaking research. That is what makes great reporters, what made Woodward and
00:42:18.580 Bernstein. This isn't Woodward and Bernstein as I'll steal from Clark Patterson. He said they weren't
00:42:24.660 Woodward and Bernstein. They were Thelma and Louise. Yeah. Well, what I'll tell you, Harvey, is when you
00:42:30.140 get to really researching how things work, you'll start to realize that the Pulitzer Prize is also a
00:42:35.420 part of it. It's a, it's a part of kind of gifting these journalists so that they can go out and do
00:42:39.240 these sorts of pieces. That is my belief after the research I've done. I'm actually going to,
00:42:43.100 I'm going to send you a book. And I think you'll find it quite interesting, you know, just a bit
00:42:47.180 about Hollywood and how the journalists are involved and how they've kind of always been
00:42:51.080 involved in sort of helping to further these narratives that they knew were not true. Like
00:42:54.680 I said, they were never the fourth estate. And, you know, the Pulitzer Prize has definitely also
00:42:59.560 always been complicated as well. The Nobel Peace Prize as well. You know, maybe we could get into
00:43:04.900 politics, but I think all of that is, uh, there's a veneer there that is starting to crack and people
00:43:10.480 are starting to realize it. So I wouldn't hold your breath for the Pulitzer to reverse the prize.
00:43:14.800 In fact, they, they award the prizes to the people that successfully execute these sort of hit pieces.
00:43:19.960 Case in point, um, I was just covering another journalist who did it to this like nice Mormon
00:43:24.280 family. Everything she wrote was deceptive and then she was awarded with a press award for it. So,
00:43:28.780 um, yeah, don't hold your breath on that one, I would say. Yeah, I guess not. I guess not.
00:43:34.980 I mean, one can only wish anyhow. Yeah. Well, look, you're contributing to it though. I would say
00:43:40.440 you're helping people to recognize what it is. And I do think the future is going to be better.
00:43:45.320 Uh, I, I definitely don't want your life to have to have been sacrificed so that the future could be
00:43:50.000 better and foster these conversations, but they're happening. They are happening. And the mainstream media
00:43:54.120 is failing where independent media is picking up. It is a different world than when you went in
00:43:58.780 100%. Well, Candace, you know, I mean, I, I face, you know, I mean, there could be a sentence is,
00:44:05.800 you know, I don't know how long that sentence can be. So I face danger. You know, if that trial
00:44:11.680 isn't get called a mistrial, you know, I mean that, that, that case, you mean that I'm up, up against,
00:44:19.260 you know, we won two of the three, but we didn't win the third. And the third is a dangerous case,
00:44:25.420 Miriam Halle. So I don't know. I'm in a period of just, you know, just not knowing what, what my fate
00:44:33.460 is. And it's just, to me, something that I have to do. And it's not easy to get it done, but I,
00:44:41.560 I took a, uh, a lie detector test with Jessica, man, I sent you, or they sent you the results and I
00:44:49.500 passed with flying colors. I took a lie detector test on Eugenia Cherninchova, the girl in California.
00:44:56.840 And I passed with unbelievable, the highest you could get. And I mentioned Cy Vance, who really
00:45:03.780 went against me, the district attorney. I used his lie detector person because I didn't want anybody to
00:45:10.460 say that I cheated in any way, or we used a lie detector test friendly to us, but I'm going to take
00:45:16.340 one on Miriam Halle and, and I, and, uh, and I'm going to take one on her and get that in here. So once
00:45:24.340 and for all people can understand that that case, you know what I mean, is not true. You know what I
00:45:30.380 mean? I never assaulted that woman. Never, ever, ever in a million years, but it was worth money to her. 1.00
00:45:37.740 They went after the money and you know what I mean? And here I faced this incredible situation
00:45:43.280 that I'm in, but this was for the money. This was for the money. Gloria Alred called it reparations.
00:45:50.500 You know, the other thing with Gloria Alred, Candace is I used her daughter, you know what I 0.95
00:45:55.700 mean? You know, to, to work for me. And I, and I bought her daughter's script when I made the Trayvon
00:46:02.680 Martin documentary, because she wrote a brilliant book about the trial of Trayvon Martin. And so I,
00:46:09.880 one of the episodes in the Trayvon Martin documentary that I made features her work.
00:46:16.220 And when this thing exploded, her lawyer was her daughter, Gloria Alred's daughter was collateral
00:46:22.980 damage. Gloria Alred represents Mimi Halle. She's always there for, you know, right after the trial, 0.97
00:46:30.980 somehow Miriam Halle, instead of flying back to where she lives, she showed up to have a victory lap. 1.00
00:46:37.280 Gloria Alred flew back to New York to have a victory lap. She's there in the courtroom.
00:46:43.560 She's just there. It's, it's clear. It's clear. Did I piss off somebody? Yeah. Amongst others,
00:46:51.020 I pissed off Gloria Alred in a big way. Yeah. Yeah. I have to say she's someone that is worthy of an
00:46:57.360 investigation in and of itself, because I'm telling you, this woman is involved in a way that is so
00:47:02.400 evidently clear to me. And there's just no way that like Michael Jackson puts her on a short list and
00:47:06.900 basically says his whole life is being ruined. I had to sort of re-examine the facts of that case
00:47:11.320 and what was happening to him behind the scenes. And every time her name comes up, it seems to be
00:47:16.700 that she's involved in no good. Even her client has spoken out and said that they were treated terribly
00:47:21.200 by her and that they didn't get the sense that she was in this because she wanted justice for the
00:47:26.360 victims, but rather she was kind of a part, and I'm paraphrasing here, of a larger syndicate.
00:47:31.140 And so she is somebody that I'm definitely interested in. And I hope sooner rather than
00:47:36.880 later, we're able to determine what exactly it is that she's a part of because it's something
00:47:40.760 sinister. There's no question about it. Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what I know of it to be.
00:47:46.000 She says that she's, you know, for women's rights and victimhood and the survivors and uses all the 0.98
00:47:52.480 school language. But when you ask Mimi Halle of the $475,000 that you received, you know what I
00:48:00.860 mean, off of my back and this trial, you know what I mean? Mimi said one third went to Gloria.
00:48:07.940 Gloria takes between a third and 40% for every client she has. You know, when, when you talk, 1.00
00:48:15.900 when they were talking about getting rid of NDAs, Gloria Alred was the one who said, don't get rid of
00:48:21.400 NDAs because her practice is full of it. Somebody says, I slept with that corporate CEO. You know 1.00
00:48:28.460 what I mean? And Gloria Alred goes to him and says, sign, you know what I mean? You know,
00:48:32.400 give us $700,000 and we'll sign a piece of paper saying that we, uh, you won't say anything about
00:48:39.400 you. We won't tell your wife. We won't do all the underhanded behind the scenes stuff is a big
00:48:45.420 part of Gloria's practice. Yeah. And I don't see how that's not considered to be extortion in and of
00:48:50.460 itself. You know, do this or that, do this or that give me 750 K or else. Um, like I said,
00:48:57.180 that begs a further investigation. Harvey, I know we're running up against the hour here. So I want
00:49:01.100 to ask you this. What do you want? What do you hope your legacy is? It's a big question. Take a second
00:49:08.260 to answer it. Um, in my time I tried to do as well as having the success that I had. I'm very proud of
00:49:19.420 the work that I did. We did a concert with Jim Dolan and John Sykes. We did the concert for New
00:49:25.380 York and raised a hundred million dollars for the firefighters and the widows and the policemen who were
00:49:31.380 the first defenders of nine 11. We did a $77 million concert for Sandy with Paul McCartney and
00:49:40.260 the who and Mick Jagger and the stones. And, uh, we raised $77 million for the businesses that got
00:49:48.180 blown away and rock away in New Jersey and Bruce Springsteen opened the show. It was amazing. And,
00:49:54.840 uh, we were able to just deliver and deliver the money quickly because Robinhood was at the Robinhood
00:50:00.780 was the beneficiary of the money and Robin had distributed the money quickly. I was on the board
00:50:06.860 of Robinhood and watched other people, not me raised two and a half billion dollars for children's
00:50:13.400 charities in New York. And I was on, uh, I, I raised $170 million for Amphar in con with the,
00:50:23.780 with the, uh, events that I used to organize for the charity. I don't know, you know, there are others,
00:50:31.520 the children of Mandela. I was glad to man of the year. I tried to, I tried to have my movies talk
00:50:38.360 about society and what was going on in a way that wasn't clobbering people over the head, but certainly
00:50:44.660 not afraid to make a point. And we were never scared of anything. And I tried to do good work,
00:50:51.440 you know, good work on the filmmaking side. And I tried to do good work on the good,
00:50:56.360 on the good side. I just wished I was a better husband. And I wished that I just had the,
00:51:02.860 the non stupidity to just, how, how could I do it? You know what I mean? How could I do it? 0.99
00:51:12.020 How was I so weak to just want to be with women who were just using me and I was using them. 0.99
00:51:19.540 It's just awful to me that a man who had the track record that I had fell for the oldest sin in the
00:51:27.080 world. That's exactly right. Scary. It is scary. It is. But I mean, you, you weren't the first and
00:51:33.280 you certainly weren't, won't be the last. And you hope that people learn that lesson. They won't learn
00:51:37.800 that lesson. I promise you there will be another person that falls to the trap of, of young women 1.00
00:51:42.160 women. And, you know, not making the right assessment there in terms of everything that 1.00
00:51:46.600 you have. But, you know, like I said, I will continue to pray for justice in your case. I
00:51:51.540 really think it's a terrifying case to take a look at if anybody examines it, Harvey, and we're going
00:51:56.760 to continue to investigate every element of it up into Gloria Allred. And I'm going to hope that
00:52:03.240 you guys are able to, you know, prove what is obvious here, which is that this should have been
00:52:07.960 declared a mistrial on the basis of what the juries, the jurors were saying in this case,
00:52:12.920 Harvey. And so I'm sorry that it is happening in this way. But I do know that there is a greater
00:52:18.380 good that's happening, which is people are beginning to ask questions about what the hell
00:52:21.680 is going on in these courtrooms. Well, you have a great force for good. I hope some of the people
00:52:26.820 who listen to your show can write to you and say they agree with you on the mistrial. When a jury
00:52:32.360 misbehaves the way the jury misbehaved in my court case, you know, I mean, there should be
00:52:37.880 a mistrial, you know what I mean? Keep those cards and letters and emails going. I date myself when
00:52:45.020 I say cards and letters, you know what I mean? You know, keep those emails, you know, coming,
00:52:50.180 you know, because it's important, you know, for me to read them, you know, and to see that
00:52:56.060 change is coming with it, Candace. You're a fighter for change, and I appreciate you and thank you.
00:53:02.740 Absolutely. I'm going to send you a book. You're going to fall down the Hollywood rabbit hole. I'm
00:53:06.120 going to send you a book called Chaos. I think you'll enjoy it. It's about the Manson murders.
00:53:09.440 It's incredible. The true story of the Manson murders. Yeah. I'm going to send you my book,
00:53:14.040 and I've got a book club, so maybe we're going to get a recommendation from you on what book we
00:53:17.960 should read later this year since you're reading so many. But, you know, Harvey, thank you so much
00:53:22.360 for trusting me with the story. I wish you had trusted me sooner because we could have been
00:53:26.080 covering this for years, but this is the way it happened. It's the way God wanted it to happen,
00:53:30.860 and I'm just grateful to have the opportunity to share this.
00:53:34.580 Thank you, Candace. Thank you so much for everything. I appreciate it.
00:53:38.280 We'll talk soon.
00:53:39.140 I appreciate you, and congratulations on the family.
00:53:42.100 Thank you so much.
00:53:43.780 My pleasure. Okay. Bye now.
00:54:00.860 Thank you.