Candace Owens - Harvey Speaks： Jessica Mann & The Five Year Affair

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00:00:15.800 You know, I'm beginning to believe that we might need an entirely separate judicial system

00:00:20.500 to look at cases that involve sex workers,

00:00:23.760 because the details of this next woman's relationship with Harvey Weinstein,

00:00:27.100 for which he earned, by the way, three years in prison,

00:00:30.800 are absolutely offensive to my senses.

00:00:34.500 I am personally offended looking into this.

00:00:37.700 I guess I'll start by asking you a question.

00:00:39.180 Outside of a situation of captivity, right, a true horrific criminal captivity,

00:00:44.400 something like Elizabeth Smart,

00:00:48.220 how does someone get raped over five years?

00:00:53.940 That may be a situation where you're living with someone, you have no power.

00:00:56.820 I could see that.

00:00:57.260 But how does somebody who's free to roam wherever they want,

00:01:00.560 never knew this person until they were 27 years old,

00:01:03.280 get continually raped for over five years?

00:01:04.780 Because that's apparently what happened to Jessica Mann.

00:01:06.820 She claims that's what happened to her, sexual assaults for five years.

00:01:09.520 And I have a lot of questions.

00:01:10.460 So I'm just going to roll right into this episode three of Harvey Speaks.

00:01:14.120 So first and foremost, I want to explain something to you guys

00:01:27.860 that may not have been clear in previous episodes

00:01:30.180 because I know a lot of people are wondering,

00:01:31.940 what would be the reason that any woman might subject herself

00:01:35.040 to a criminal case for sexual assault or rape?

00:01:38.500 Why would you want to be on the stand?

00:01:40.000 What do you actually get out of that?

00:01:41.180 What do you win for that, right?

00:01:42.420 It's criminal. He's going to go to prison.

00:01:44.240 Obviously, they must be telling the truth.

00:01:46.080 And clearly, Gloria Allred, who I should mention,

00:01:48.680 represented these women for free in these criminal cases.

00:01:51.960 She just must be a wonderful human being,

00:01:54.560 a truly wonderful human being

00:01:55.840 who is just on the path to lock up monsters.

00:02:00.640 Credit to Gloria Allred.

00:02:02.460 Well, you should know that under the law,

00:02:06.060 you can't go after a company or sue somebody civilly for rape

00:02:10.240 unless you at first secure a criminal conviction.

00:02:13.800 So you essentially can't go after their insurance company

00:02:16.640 if you're going after the Weinstein Company for millions

00:02:18.560 or whatever it is,

00:02:19.360 which there was this large settlement that was given

00:02:21.340 to a lot of these women who made allegations.

00:02:23.720 There has you have to go the criminal route at first.

00:02:26.160 And I want to be also clear about Gloria Allred,

00:02:28.640 who presents herself as some sort of a Me Too martyr.

00:02:31.080 She tends to represent women on the criminal side for free,

00:02:34.540 but she takes 40% of whatever it is

00:02:38.120 that they then secure from the man or the business

00:02:40.540 if they go after them, okay?

00:02:42.760 So she's raking in a ton of money, 40%.

00:02:45.320 Could you imagine this woman represented

00:02:46.660 even when it doesn't go to court?

00:02:48.700 Wasn't she the lawyer that was on the Tiger Woods case?

00:02:51.400 Think about how much money she has made.

00:02:52.880 She loves this.

00:02:53.580 She absolutely loves these sorts of allegations

00:02:55.320 against rich men.

00:02:56.720 That's my opinion of Gloria Allred.

00:02:58.120 Anyways, now, if you are a woman

00:03:01.220 who, for the sake of this hypothetical argument,

00:03:03.800 had sex with Harvey Weinstein for years, okay,

00:03:07.360 you agreed to do that,

00:03:08.440 and you did not get the career

00:03:10.200 and the lifestyle that you had imagined in your mind

00:03:13.060 that you would get for that sort of a sacrifice,

00:03:15.460 you may look to receiving a big payday, right?

00:03:18.980 A big payday down the line

00:03:20.540 because now you're just a washed-up actress,

00:03:22.480 and you might start reimagining

00:03:25.340 your sexual relationship with him

00:03:27.540 as not consensual.

00:03:30.760 And believe it or not,

00:03:31.780 in 2020, that was very possible

00:03:34.380 because in America,

00:03:35.880 jurors were consumed with this question.

00:03:38.620 What actually is consent?

00:03:40.920 We don't remember anymore.

00:03:42.200 Do you guys remember the Me Too movement

00:03:43.880 and all of those articles that were telling us

00:03:45.720 that you could even revoke your consent

00:03:47.620 after you had already consented to the sex?

00:03:50.280 They were instituting all of these new rules.

00:03:53.740 Men had to ask questions,

00:03:55.240 had to check in even during the act.

00:03:57.840 Are you still consenting?

00:03:58.980 Are we consenting?

00:03:59.860 Have we consented?

00:04:00.680 Did we consent yesterday?

00:04:01.680 Is everybody consenting?

00:04:02.860 I'm not being funny.

00:04:04.100 These are the kinds of things

00:04:05.580 that were being reimagined

00:04:08.020 in the era of hashtag Me Too, okay?

00:04:10.980 So even if you consented to something at the time,

00:04:14.280 maybe on the inside you were screaming

00:04:15.940 and you weren't screaming outwardly,

00:04:17.740 you weren't saying no outwardly,

00:04:19.180 but if in your mind while the act was taking place,

00:04:22.800 you were going,

00:04:23.100 I don't know if I want to do this,

00:04:24.560 well, who's to say whether or not it was true consent?

00:04:28.000 We'll leave that up to a jury.

00:04:29.860 Perfect time for you guys to meet Jessica Mann.

00:04:33.060 Here's Jessica Mann.

00:04:34.640 Today, she is 39 years old

00:04:36.900 and she is indeed the woman who put Harvey away

00:04:39.640 for the additional three years for rape, okay?

00:04:43.420 Not aggravated sexual assault, for actual rape.

00:04:46.340 And so I should tell you their relationship,

00:04:48.860 tell you a little bit about their relationship

00:04:49.880 and how they met back in 2013.

00:04:53.440 She began a relationship with Harvey Weinstein

00:04:55.580 and I want to be clear about her age

00:04:57.200 because it's very important.

00:04:58.560 People are always imagining

00:05:00.080 when you say an aspiring actress,

00:05:01.540 I think they're always thinking of a 17-year-old

00:05:03.300 or an 18-year-old or a 19-year-old

00:05:04.860 just getting into Hollywood.

00:05:06.520 No, Jessica was 27 years old.

00:05:09.000 She was 27 years old,

00:05:10.440 so she was a fully matured adult woman,

00:05:13.660 a neurologically developed adult, okay?

00:05:16.960 Jessica, per her own account,

00:05:18.960 was a runaway from home.

00:05:20.700 She grew up on a dairy farm in Washington State.

00:05:24.380 She had a tumultuous relationship with her father,

00:05:28.020 which we will discuss.

00:05:29.480 A big component of all of these things,

00:05:31.600 you tend to find these women

00:05:33.220 tend to have bad relationships with their fathers.

00:05:36.920 And so what she decided to do

00:05:38.000 was that she up and booked a one-way ticket

00:05:40.400 to Burbank, California,

00:05:41.560 and she never looked back.

00:05:43.620 She began, you guessed it,

00:05:45.500 pursuing a career in acting.

00:05:47.720 She met Harvey Weinstein,

00:05:49.280 the big Harvey Weinstein Hollywood producer

00:05:52.000 at a party in Los Angeles.

00:05:53.820 And she testified that after that meeting,

00:05:56.660 she immediately felt pressured to have sex with him.

00:06:01.160 He just wanted to have sex with her.

00:06:02.960 She says that it started at first

00:06:04.760 with a request for a massage,

00:06:07.120 which she acquiesced to.

00:06:08.540 Then she says that he forced oral sex on her

00:06:12.440 during a meeting about a potential movie role.

00:06:15.920 I want you to remember that

00:06:16.580 because she wasn't alone.

00:06:18.360 She was with a friend

00:06:19.100 meeting about a potential movie role.

00:06:21.380 She says to get out of that situation,

00:06:23.320 obviously, you imagine that's very traumatizing.

00:06:25.200 She just had to, like, fake her way out of it.

00:06:27.420 You get what I'm implying there.

00:06:30.520 And right there, again,

00:06:32.160 I know we did this with Mimi Halei,

00:06:33.780 but if you got out of that situation

00:06:36.280 and you thought,

00:06:38.780 I did not want to do that,

00:06:40.200 even though I didn't say no,

00:06:42.460 I would probably say,

00:06:43.600 since you don't know this guy at all

00:06:45.000 and you just met him,

00:06:46.060 maybe don't go back right there.

00:06:48.200 End it.

00:06:48.820 Just end the relationship.

00:06:50.920 But that doesn't seem to be the circumstance

00:06:53.440 with these older women.

00:06:55.400 And what I mean by older women,

00:06:56.280 I mean 27 years old.

00:06:57.560 You're 27.

00:06:59.240 You're not a spring chicken

00:07:00.460 by Hollywood standards.

00:07:01.960 You're young,

00:07:02.700 but you're a fully adult woman.

00:07:05.340 So I'm just thinking,

00:07:06.420 maybe don't go back.

00:07:07.880 But I'm crazy.

00:07:08.860 Okay.

00:07:09.860 She admitted to the jury

00:07:11.460 that she had then agreed

00:07:14.720 to a few sexual encounters with Harvey

00:07:17.820 leading up to what she's eventually

00:07:20.160 going to describe as her rape.

00:07:22.180 But that in those initial agreed to encounters,

00:07:24.860 they had never had full intercourse.

00:07:27.000 So that's what made this one thing different

00:07:29.180 that's coming up, right?

00:07:30.160 Upon reflection,

00:07:31.540 she felt that really the only reason

00:07:34.260 that she had agreed

00:07:35.300 to those earlier encounters

00:07:36.600 in the first place

00:07:37.600 was because Harvey had dangled

00:07:39.920 the possibility of work in front of her.

00:07:42.940 Now, to me,

00:07:44.040 if I'm sitting on the jury,

00:07:45.460 just that right there

00:07:46.660 is quite a confession.

00:07:48.420 Okay.

00:07:48.700 You're kind of saying I'm 27 years old

00:07:50.700 and the only reason I had sex with them

00:07:52.280 was because I thought I could get a job.

00:07:54.100 And I think legally,

00:07:58.000 maybe,

00:07:59.560 maybe not legally

00:08:00.900 because Harvey's the one

00:08:01.960 that got convicted of rape,

00:08:02.840 but like,

00:08:04.100 is that prostitution?

00:08:05.640 Can you sell your body

00:08:07.120 because you want something in return?

00:08:09.180 I'm just asking questions, you guys.

00:08:12.220 Anyway, similar to Mimi Halei,

00:08:14.500 who put him in prison for 20 years,

00:08:16.480 just weeks later

00:08:17.680 after these consensual encounters,

00:08:20.200 she somehow wound up

00:08:21.740 with Harvey Weinstein

00:08:22.920 in a Midtown Manhattan hotel room.

00:08:25.560 And that is where she says

00:08:26.480 the rape took place.

00:08:27.580 Now,

00:08:28.620 Jessica told Joros

00:08:29.460 that she was not sexually attracted to Harvey,

00:08:32.220 but she pitied him

00:08:33.440 after she saw him naked,

00:08:35.840 telling them,

00:08:36.740 quote,

00:08:37.300 when I first saw him naked,

00:08:39.020 I was filled with compassion,

00:08:41.220 absolute compassion.

00:08:42.440 Because remember,

00:08:43.080 we spoke about this in the first episode.

00:08:45.120 You know,

00:08:45.300 Harvey Weinstein got gangrene.

00:08:46.780 He had a surgery.

00:08:48.220 And we're going to describe

00:08:49.600 how she describes things

00:08:50.820 in a little bit.

00:08:52.080 But she was overwhelmed

00:08:53.540 with absolute compassion

00:08:54.760 having seen him like that.

00:08:56.120 And she described the day

00:08:57.720 of that,

00:08:59.020 leading up to that rape,

00:08:59.880 saying that Weinstein

00:09:01.120 had persuaded her

00:09:02.400 to come into

00:09:03.620 his Doubletree hotel suite.

00:09:05.680 He basically booked

00:09:06.400 this suite in the Doubletree

00:09:07.520 because she was staying there.

00:09:09.620 And then she says

00:09:10.860 that he prevented her

00:09:12.220 from leaving

00:09:12.820 by blocking the door.

00:09:15.080 She says,

00:09:15.480 quote,

00:09:15.680 I gave up.

00:09:16.080 I gave up at that point

00:09:17.260 that she was sobbing

00:09:18.940 through her testimony

00:09:19.660 on the stand.

00:09:20.600 She says that she,

00:09:22.040 quote,

00:09:22.180 I undressed.

00:09:23.180 He stood over me

00:09:24.260 until I was completely naked.

00:09:25.660 And he told me

00:09:26.520 to lay down on the bed.

00:09:27.400 He went to the bathroom.

00:09:29.260 So then they're separate.

00:09:30.740 And then he came out naked.

00:09:31.960 And then that is when

00:09:33.240 the alleged rape occurred.

00:09:34.600 And that's terrible.

00:09:35.680 That is terrible.

00:09:36.380 If that was a sequence of events,

00:09:37.220 that would be absolutely terrible.

00:09:38.920 It makes sense,

00:09:39.900 therefore,

00:09:40.460 according to her version of events

00:09:42.140 that in January of this year,

00:09:43.700 upon hearing news

00:09:44.660 that Harvey Weinstein

00:09:45.620 was asking a judge

00:09:47.360 to move up his appeal,

00:09:48.860 he wants this appellate process

00:09:50.740 to happen as soon as possible,

00:09:52.920 she gave a rather blunt statement

00:09:55.320 to People Magazine.

00:09:57.040 She heard that he pleaded

00:09:58.720 citing his leukemia.

00:10:00.160 I don't know if you know that,

00:10:01.000 but Harvey Weinstein

00:10:01.820 has since been diagnosed

00:10:02.900 with leukemia.

00:10:03.760 So he goes back and forth

00:10:04.520 from the hospital

00:10:05.220 and his health is failing.

00:10:07.600 And he described

00:10:09.000 the climate

00:10:09.960 at Rikers Prison

00:10:12.000 as a hellhole.

00:10:13.560 To the judge.

00:10:15.940 And so Jessica Mann replied

00:10:17.300 with absolutely no remorse

00:10:18.940 or understanding

00:10:19.640 and said,

00:10:20.900 the irony of Weinstein

00:10:22.420 begging for privilege

00:10:23.520 to be released

00:10:24.300 out of his hellhole

00:10:25.560 is not lost on me.

00:10:27.560 She said,

00:10:28.500 the hell he put in my hole

00:10:30.540 will last a lifetime.

00:10:32.480 End quote.

00:10:33.460 Wow.

00:10:34.120 Okay.

00:10:34.980 Aggressive.

00:10:35.660 A bit graphic.

00:10:37.520 With a statement like that,

00:10:38.360 if you knew nothing

00:10:39.040 about this case,

00:10:39.940 you would have to believe

00:10:40.700 she'd lived through something

00:10:42.000 that was unbelievably horrific.

00:10:43.340 Still, still,

00:10:45.800 stay with me.

00:10:46.520 Okay.

00:10:47.240 You might be a little bit confused

00:10:48.600 by the media's description

00:10:49.740 of a sexual assault

00:10:51.360 that took place

00:10:52.520 over five years.

00:10:53.800 Five years is just a long time.

00:10:55.060 It's half a decade.

00:10:56.460 And so you might have

00:10:57.240 some questions

00:10:57.820 and you might want to fill in

00:10:59.420 the details here.

00:11:01.120 And so I'm going to introduce

00:11:02.440 to you some alternative facts

00:11:03.920 to you regarding

00:11:05.380 the situation.

00:11:06.400 Now, to reiterate

00:11:07.380 the date,

00:11:08.320 it was March 18th,

00:11:11.440 2013

00:11:12.680 that her alleged rape

00:11:15.440 happened at the Doubletree Hotel.

00:11:17.660 March 18th, 2013.

00:11:19.920 Don't worry.

00:11:20.560 Tomorrow,

00:11:21.020 we're still going to unpack

00:11:22.060 her allegations

00:11:22.760 and go through

00:11:23.740 her testimony.

00:11:25.020 And I will give you guys

00:11:25.880 a timeline as always.

00:11:27.220 But for now,

00:11:27.960 the date you need to know

00:11:28.640 is 2013.

00:11:30.960 And the alleged rape

00:11:33.120 also took place

00:11:34.400 in the morning time.

00:11:35.700 What factually happened

00:11:38.000 after it

00:11:39.140 is definitely confusing.

00:11:40.700 So we know

00:11:41.500 that this rape

00:11:42.100 took place

00:11:42.700 early in the morning

00:11:43.660 in his suite

00:11:44.600 at the Doubletree.

00:11:45.700 And then what we know

00:11:46.980 via email change

00:11:48.120 is that on the very same day,

00:11:50.300 but that evening

00:11:51.520 at 7.50 p.m.,

00:11:53.920 Jessica Mann

00:11:54.760 was emailed

00:11:55.680 a ticket

00:11:56.420 from the Weinstein office

00:11:58.440 paying for her flight

00:11:59.940 to Los Angeles

00:12:01.000 the following day.

00:12:02.780 I want to take a look at this.

00:12:03.720 This is somebody

00:12:04.600 who works for Harvey.

00:12:06.140 Good evening, Jessica.

00:12:07.160 You see that date,

00:12:07.880 7.50 p.m.

00:12:08.820 Please find below

00:12:09.940 your new e-ticket

00:12:11.660 for tomorrow.

00:12:13.000 Please be sure

00:12:13.600 to look over

00:12:14.320 all the details

00:12:15.120 to ensure everything

00:12:16.180 is as expected

00:12:17.080 and what you needed.

00:12:18.540 Similarly,

00:12:19.340 do you need us

00:12:19.980 to book you a car

00:12:20.740 to the airport?

00:12:21.700 In either case,

00:12:22.520 once you've looked

00:12:23.200 over the below,

00:12:23.980 please email me

00:12:24.620 to confirm

00:12:25.040 that you've received

00:12:25.700 this in our sets.

00:12:26.780 Thank you,

00:12:27.680 John Logan.

00:12:29.300 Okay,

00:12:29.780 let's pull that back up

00:12:30.580 because underneath it

00:12:31.620 is even more telling

00:12:33.480 because it's not like

00:12:34.460 John just got around

00:12:35.400 sending her the ticket.

00:12:36.760 He clearly had just

00:12:37.720 booked it.

00:12:38.180 That's a confirmation email

00:12:39.580 below from Delta Airlines

00:12:41.080 and it is the time stamp

00:12:42.820 to 7.25 p.m.

00:12:43.920 So we've all flown on planes.

00:12:45.260 We know you book it online

00:12:47.240 and then you immediately

00:12:48.460 within 10 minutes,

00:12:49.540 if it's running

00:12:50.500 a little bit late,

00:12:51.080 get a confirmation email

00:12:52.140 from whatever airline

00:12:54.080 you're flying.

00:12:54.640 So we know he booked

00:12:55.500 that ticket 25 minutes earlier

00:12:57.720 before he forwarded it

00:12:58.800 to her.

00:12:59.220 Very interesting.

00:13:01.240 So you had a rape

00:13:02.180 that happened in the morning

00:13:02.960 and then we are left

00:13:04.000 with what happened

00:13:05.440 leading up to it

00:13:06.420 that let his office

00:13:07.180 email you a ticket

00:13:07.920 just like Mimi,

00:13:08.580 by the way.

00:13:09.420 It's always this thing

00:13:10.180 like they have

00:13:10.860 these incidents happen

00:13:11.840 and then the next thing

00:13:12.740 we know,

00:13:13.280 the Weinstein office

00:13:14.040 is paying for their flights.

00:13:16.220 Okay?

00:13:17.720 We then learned

00:13:18.320 from these emails

00:13:19.100 that she confirmed

00:13:21.780 that she wanted them

00:13:23.680 to arrange a car

00:13:24.900 from her,

00:13:25.580 from her Doubletree hotel

00:13:26.860 to the New York City airport.

00:13:29.180 I can show you that.

00:13:30.880 She says,

00:13:31.600 Hi, John.

00:13:31.980 Thank you.

00:13:32.820 Look at the time there,

00:13:33.480 by the way.

00:13:33.920 This is actually

00:13:34.680 the next day.

00:13:35.540 I mean,

00:13:35.740 she looks,

00:13:36.700 I mean,

00:13:36.900 if I would guess,

00:13:37.700 she's either severely jet-lagged

00:13:40.420 or she's out,

00:13:41.780 right?

00:13:42.080 1.07 a.m.

00:13:42.980 She replies to that email

00:13:44.040 that was sent to her

00:13:44.720 at 7.50

00:13:45.380 and she says

00:13:47.280 very early in the morning,

00:13:48.500 thank you.

00:13:49.220 I'd like a ride

00:13:49.760 to the airport.

00:13:50.780 It would help a lot

00:13:51.720 as this is my first time here.

00:13:53.540 This is her first time

00:13:54.280 in New York City

00:13:54.820 and I'm not sure

00:13:55.880 how to handle getting there

00:13:56.780 a thank you.

00:13:57.740 Once I land,

00:13:58.280 I can find a ride home.

00:14:01.020 Thanks.

00:14:02.240 Okay,

00:14:02.760 fine.

00:14:03.420 And then he asks her

00:14:04.660 where she'd like her pickup.

00:14:06.120 He responds to her

00:14:07.020 at 5.06 a.m.

00:14:08.640 I'm sure he was sleeping

00:14:09.420 through the 1 a.m.

00:14:10.260 and she said,

00:14:10.840 my hotel will be fine

00:14:11.760 at 10.08 a.m.

00:14:12.820 Now,

00:14:13.240 we have that ticket.

00:14:14.200 Her flight was not

00:14:14.840 until 4 p.m.

00:14:15.660 later that day

00:14:16.560 and here's where

00:14:17.720 it gets interesting

00:14:18.480 because

00:14:19.040 now,

00:14:20.420 mind you,

00:14:20.720 she survived a rape

00:14:21.720 and maybe

00:14:23.440 if I'm like

00:14:24.500 going

00:14:24.800 really pro-victim here,

00:14:26.420 I'd say,

00:14:26.920 well,

00:14:27.040 she just wanted

00:14:27.460 to get back

00:14:27.840 to Los Angeles

00:14:28.420 by any means necessary

00:14:29.400 and so,

00:14:30.580 yes,

00:14:30.880 she said,

00:14:31.540 I don't,

00:14:32.000 I'm new to New York.

00:14:33.240 I'm not figuring out

00:14:34.100 the subway system.

00:14:35.380 Yes,

00:14:35.640 I don't have the money.

00:14:37.340 Please just get me to,

00:14:38.640 just get me to the airport

00:14:40.100 because I live in Los Angeles.

00:14:41.360 I don't know what this place is

00:14:42.300 and this has been

00:14:43.000 a traumatizing experience

00:14:43.920 for me,

00:14:44.460 right?

00:14:44.740 That's where your mind

00:14:45.540 would go

00:14:46.040 if you're like

00:14:47.420 advocating for Jessica here,

00:14:49.220 okay?

00:14:49.420 Let's keep an open mind.

00:14:50.240 Maybe she is telling the truth.

00:14:51.760 Then this next email

00:14:52.560 gets even weirder

00:14:53.460 because then she requests

00:14:55.240 because you think

00:14:55.840 now you're in L.A.

00:14:56.620 This is your home.

00:14:57.600 You know how to get around here.

00:14:59.100 She requests for them

00:15:00.000 to send a driver

00:15:00.900 on the L.A. side.

00:15:03.360 She requests

00:15:03.860 Harvey's driver.

00:15:05.800 This is one of Harvey's drivers.

00:15:08.080 She says,

00:15:08.740 thank you,

00:15:09.160 John,

00:15:09.660 at 11.04 a.m.

00:15:10.920 I'm unable to find

00:15:11.940 a ride last minute

00:15:13.540 from LAX to blank.

00:15:16.220 Are there any drivers

00:15:17.260 in L.A.

00:15:17.980 or shuttle services?

00:15:19.100 Okay.

00:15:19.280 Now I don't know

00:15:21.200 about you guys.

00:15:22.280 You guys ever been to L.A.?

00:15:23.260 That's not a thing.

00:15:24.500 Just right there

00:15:25.260 I can tell you

00:15:26.100 you can't find a driver

00:15:27.560 from LAX,

00:15:29.060 one of the busiest airports

00:15:30.600 in America.

00:15:31.560 I can't find a driver

00:15:32.560 from New York City.

00:15:34.280 You're landing at,

00:15:35.640 if you're leaving at 4 p.m.

00:15:37.520 and you're getting time

00:15:38.360 back from New York,

00:15:39.360 you're landing

00:15:40.080 at 7 o'clock p.m.

00:15:41.560 in the evening

00:15:42.220 in LAX-ish, okay?

00:15:44.520 She's saying

00:15:44.940 she can't find a driver

00:15:45.680 and she asks for one.

00:15:46.720 So let's get that email

00:15:47.400 back up.

00:15:48.400 They say,

00:15:48.800 okay, hello Jessica.

00:15:50.340 Your driver in LA

00:15:51.340 this evening

00:15:51.700 will be Jerry Jones.

00:15:52.720 Jerry Jones, again,

00:15:53.640 this is one of Harvey's drivers.

00:15:56.120 Okay?

00:15:56.540 He's a guy named Freddy

00:15:57.360 and a guy named Jerry

00:15:58.280 who works for Freddy.

00:16:00.160 Here's his mobile number.

00:16:01.020 Please let us know

00:16:01.640 if you have any questions.

00:16:02.720 Otherwise, safe travels.

00:16:03.760 Now that to me

00:16:04.680 seems like a lot.

00:16:05.900 I feel like

00:16:06.760 if I had survived a rape,

00:16:08.380 I would not want to then

00:16:10.060 be subjected

00:16:10.980 unnecessarily

00:16:11.860 to being in the car

00:16:13.520 with the drivers

00:16:14.600 of the person

00:16:16.180 who had raped me.

00:16:17.480 But again,

00:16:18.000 I'm reading myself

00:16:18.760 into this situation.

00:16:20.060 What do I know?

00:16:21.260 Let's keep going.

00:16:23.040 What happened?

00:16:23.720 What exactly happened?

00:16:24.980 Why is she

00:16:26.020 in New York City?

00:16:27.140 Why is she communicating

00:16:28.180 with this team?

00:16:29.140 The good thing is

00:16:29.920 we're going to be able

00:16:30.320 to fill in some more details

00:16:31.620 regarding the day

00:16:32.300 of her rape

00:16:32.780 and it might make

00:16:33.780 a little more sense.

00:16:34.720 Now,

00:16:35.580 I should mention

00:16:36.240 that what we can confirm

00:16:37.180 is that Jessica

00:16:37.820 did not fly to New York

00:16:39.280 to meet with Harvey Weinstein.

00:16:41.400 Instead,

00:16:41.960 she actually flew

00:16:43.440 to New York

00:16:44.020 with a friend of hers,

00:16:45.080 a Hollywood agent

00:16:46.120 named Thomas Richards Lozano.

00:16:49.960 Thomas was actually in town

00:16:52.040 for one night only.

00:16:53.280 He had a client in New York.

00:16:55.220 He had received

00:16:56.120 two free round-tripped flights

00:16:59.580 plus a hotel room

00:17:00.980 at the Doubletree Manhattan

00:17:02.760 and some tickets to Wicked

00:17:04.220 for that one night only.

00:17:06.220 And so he took his friend

00:17:07.160 Jessica Mann

00:17:07.920 as his guest

00:17:08.720 and the two of them

00:17:09.520 decided to share

00:17:10.680 that hotel room.

00:17:11.660 I should be clear,

00:17:12.880 they stayed in separate beds.

00:17:14.100 She testified she never had

00:17:15.140 any sexual affair

00:17:16.180 with Thomas.

00:17:16.820 So this was truly

00:17:17.880 a friend trip.

00:17:18.880 They're like,

00:17:19.240 yes, let's go

00:17:20.040 and have this one night

00:17:21.940 in New York

00:17:22.380 because she had never

00:17:23.080 been there.

00:17:23.760 Now,

00:17:24.300 on the evening

00:17:25.240 before her encounter

00:17:26.560 with Harvey,

00:17:27.420 Thomas and Jessica

00:17:28.080 therefore were out together,

00:17:29.880 presumably to see Wicked

00:17:31.120 as that's what

00:17:31.920 he had tickets to.

00:17:33.600 Jessica then returned

00:17:34.580 back to their room

00:17:35.780 at the Doubletree

00:17:36.700 hotel thereafter

00:17:38.000 while Thomas stayed out

00:17:39.900 and it sounds like

00:17:40.640 he had a little bit

00:17:41.300 of fun into the night.

00:17:43.300 The following morning,

00:17:44.840 March 18th,

00:17:45.660 is when Harvey

00:17:46.380 then comes to her hotel.

00:17:48.240 He books himself

00:17:49.140 that suite

00:17:49.840 at the Doubletree

00:17:50.780 and that is when

00:17:52.000 the aforementioned

00:17:53.000 incident happens,

00:17:54.280 okay,

00:17:54.580 on March 18th

00:17:55.340 in the morning.

00:17:56.560 And what happens next

00:17:57.460 is quite interesting

00:17:58.240 because afterwards

00:17:59.060 they decided

00:18:00.020 to go downstairs

00:18:01.100 and join Thomas

00:18:03.780 and also her best friend,

00:18:07.180 a Brazilian actress

00:18:08.400 named Talida Maya

00:18:11.000 for breakfast

00:18:12.400 at the hotel.

00:18:14.880 Okay,

00:18:15.400 so the incident happened

00:18:16.500 and then she went downstairs

00:18:17.460 for breakfast.

00:18:18.080 So obviously

00:18:18.640 there are a lot of reasons

00:18:19.840 could be

00:18:20.180 you don't feel safe,

00:18:21.060 you're trying or whatever.

00:18:22.220 I can tell you

00:18:22.720 that on the stand,

00:18:23.340 Jessica admitted

00:18:24.020 to jurors

00:18:24.740 that she did not mention

00:18:26.100 the rape

00:18:26.880 to either of them,

00:18:28.880 not to her best friend,

00:18:29.840 Talida,

00:18:30.460 not to her Hollywood

00:18:31.980 agent friend

00:18:32.600 that she was in town for

00:18:33.840 and oddly,

00:18:35.020 therefore,

00:18:35.500 Talida and Thomas

00:18:37.320 testified on behalf

00:18:38.920 of Weinstein.

00:18:40.900 Thomas told the jury

00:18:42.280 that Jessica Mann

00:18:43.720 and Weinstein

00:18:44.500 had been friendly

00:18:45.580 with each other

00:18:46.220 that morning at breakfast

00:18:47.340 and said that Mann

00:18:48.880 took him aside

00:18:50.420 and asked him

00:18:51.960 if it was okay

00:18:53.140 if she didn't travel

00:18:54.300 back with him

00:18:55.440 to Los Angeles.

00:18:56.820 He said,

00:18:57.160 quote,

00:18:58.180 she had asked him,

00:18:59.000 quote,

00:18:59.140 if it was okay

00:19:00.000 if she didn't travel

00:19:00.700 back with me

00:19:01.240 to Los Angeles.

00:19:02.180 So she was supposed

00:19:03.020 to be going back

00:19:04.300 with him

00:19:04.760 but he testified

00:19:05.980 that Weinstein,

00:19:07.960 quote,

00:19:08.360 invited Mann

00:19:09.300 at the table,

00:19:10.300 at the breakfast table,

00:19:11.100 to stay an extra night

00:19:12.480 and that that was

00:19:14.120 the last time

00:19:14.720 that he saw Mann

00:19:15.420 that morning.

00:19:16.340 She appeared normal

00:19:17.060 and she appeared

00:19:18.000 like her everyday self.

00:19:19.500 Okay,

00:19:19.740 so I do want to slow

00:19:20.740 that down once again.

00:19:22.460 She was supposed

00:19:23.000 to return

00:19:23.940 on a ticket

00:19:25.360 back with Thomas

00:19:27.040 to L.A.

00:19:28.040 on the 18th,

00:19:30.000 okay,

00:19:30.460 which was the morning

00:19:31.540 that she had

00:19:32.040 this horrific event

00:19:32.820 happen to her.

00:19:34.360 Rather,

00:19:35.160 Harvey at breakfast

00:19:36.200 with her friends,

00:19:37.560 okay,

00:19:38.320 requests her

00:19:38.980 to stay

00:19:39.500 an extra night

00:19:40.380 in New York

00:19:41.100 and she says yes

00:19:42.680 and says,

00:19:43.360 Thomas,

00:19:43.620 I'm sorry,

00:19:44.120 I know that you got

00:19:44.620 that ticket for me,

00:19:45.160 I'm actually going

00:19:45.600 to stay here

00:19:46.200 and now those emails

00:19:47.920 are beginning

00:19:48.340 to make sense.

00:19:49.100 That contextualizes

00:19:50.000 the email suddenly.

00:19:50.980 He sends her

00:19:51.700 an updated ticket,

00:19:52.700 he's buying her

00:19:53.540 a ticket back

00:19:54.120 to L.A.

00:19:55.200 But why stay

00:19:55.800 the extra night?

00:19:56.480 What did she do

00:19:57.820 that night?

00:19:58.460 Well,

00:19:58.640 we know

00:19:59.080 she actually opted

00:20:01.060 to go to

00:20:01.920 a Weinstein Company event.

00:20:04.200 They were having

00:20:05.040 the premiere

00:20:05.640 of August Osage County

00:20:08.100 and she brought

00:20:09.720 her friend Talita

00:20:10.900 with her

00:20:11.720 and Harvey was present

00:20:13.340 at that event

00:20:14.420 that night

00:20:15.000 and perhaps

00:20:16.420 that explains,

00:20:18.740 maybe that explains

00:20:19.840 why it was like

00:20:20.580 1.03 a.m.

00:20:21.760 in the morning

00:20:22.240 when she emailed

00:20:23.460 and asked

00:20:24.020 for the ride home

00:20:24.880 because it was

00:20:25.220 a late night.

00:20:26.640 That might also

00:20:27.640 explain the reason

00:20:28.700 that Talita Maya,

00:20:30.900 her former,

00:20:31.760 I should be clear,

00:20:33.060 former best friend

00:20:34.240 and one-time roommate

00:20:35.580 so strongly condemned

00:20:37.460 Jessica Mann's

00:20:38.720 version of events

00:20:39.800 when she hit the stand.

00:20:41.780 She had been hanging out

00:20:42.820 with Jessica Mann

00:20:43.680 for years.

00:20:44.660 She had been friends

00:20:45.620 with Jessica,

00:20:46.640 the best of friends

00:20:47.400 with Jessica,

00:20:48.040 since she met

00:20:49.020 Harvey Weinstein

00:20:49.840 and she had

00:20:50.900 a radically

00:20:51.860 different understanding

00:20:53.020 of their relationship

00:20:54.760 and their bonds

00:20:55.660 because according

00:20:56.180 to Talita,

00:20:57.920 Jessica and Harvey

00:20:58.640 endured not only

00:20:59.480 a consensual

00:21:00.340 sexual relationship,

00:21:01.780 but Jessica had

00:21:02.740 gone far enough

00:21:03.780 so as to describe

00:21:05.480 Harvey to her

00:21:06.820 as her soulmate,

00:21:08.820 her spiritual soulmate,

00:21:11.660 witness says.

00:21:12.900 This is a headline

00:21:13.360 in the New York Times.

00:21:15.120 From the New York Times,

00:21:16.540 I'm going to read

00:21:17.000 this directly.

00:21:17.640 It says Ms. Maya,

00:21:19.460 35 years old

00:21:20.340 at the time

00:21:20.700 that she's giving

00:21:21.060 this testimony,

00:21:21.800 told the jury

00:21:22.340 that she met

00:21:23.540 Jessica Mann

00:21:24.620 in late 2012

00:21:26.220 on a movie set.

00:21:28.360 Several months later,

00:21:29.520 Ms. Maya said

00:21:30.260 they met Mr. Weinstein

00:21:32.000 at a party

00:21:32.780 in Los Angeles.

00:21:33.840 Neither of them

00:21:34.420 recognized him,

00:21:35.360 she said.

00:21:36.520 When Mr. Weinstein

00:21:37.460 explained who he was,

00:21:39.280 Ms. Maya recounted joking,

00:21:41.220 that's why everyone

00:21:42.000 is being so nice to you.

00:21:44.000 Ms. Maya said

00:21:44.920 that Ms. Mann

00:21:46.180 placed her arm

00:21:47.540 around Mr. Weinstein,

00:21:49.860 pinched his cheek

00:21:50.800 and said,

00:21:51.480 no, it's because

00:21:52.340 he's so cute.

00:21:54.900 Oh.

00:21:55.880 So, upon first meeting,

00:21:57.860 they don't know

00:21:58.340 who this guy is,

00:21:59.180 just slow that down for you.

00:22:00.460 They're together

00:22:01.100 because they're friends

00:22:02.460 and they see this guy

00:22:04.320 who everyone's just

00:22:05.300 like throwing themselves,

00:22:06.420 everyone's on her,

00:22:07.180 he's this guy

00:22:07.740 who's in all the movies

00:22:08.620 and then,

00:22:11.040 Ms. Maya makes the joke,

00:22:12.220 oh, that's why

00:22:12.600 everyone's being nice to you

00:22:13.900 and Jessica Mann says,

00:22:15.360 no, it's because

00:22:16.040 he's so cute.

00:22:16.700 This is according

00:22:17.160 to her best friend,

00:22:17.800 not me.

00:22:18.680 Let's keep going.

00:22:20.320 From a New York Times article,

00:22:21.420 quote,

00:22:21.820 Ms. Maya said

00:22:22.660 Mr. Weinstein

00:22:23.760 and Ms. Mann

00:22:25.060 then walked off

00:22:26.700 to a secluded area.

00:22:28.620 Ms. Mann gave

00:22:29.840 Mr. Weinstein

00:22:31.060 her phone number

00:22:32.080 later that night.

00:22:33.480 Ms. Maya said,

00:22:34.240 adding,

00:22:34.580 quote,

00:22:34.980 she seemed impressed.

00:22:37.640 Ms. Maya's account

00:22:38.640 contradicted

00:22:39.580 Ms. Mann's testimony.

00:22:41.780 Ms. Mann had said

00:22:42.460 that Mr. Weinstein

00:22:43.300 had lured her

00:22:44.580 and Ms. Maya

00:22:45.440 to the Montage

00:22:46.900 Beverly Hills Hotel

00:22:48.120 where the producer

00:22:49.460 invited them

00:22:50.180 to discuss their careers.

00:22:52.520 Then,

00:22:53.320 Ms. Mann said

00:22:54.080 he brought them

00:22:54.840 to his suite

00:22:55.620 where he forced

00:22:56.660 oral sex on her.

00:22:58.840 Ms. Mann had testified

00:22:59.900 that the more

00:23:00.480 she protested,

00:23:01.400 the angrier

00:23:02.140 Mr. Weinstein got,

00:23:03.640 but Ms. Maya said

00:23:04.580 that she did not hear

00:23:05.340 any commotion

00:23:06.180 and that Ms. Mann

00:23:07.340 had willingly walked

00:23:08.580 into the bedroom

00:23:09.240 with Mr. Weinstein.

00:23:11.200 Ms. Maya added

00:23:11.920 that her friend

00:23:12.540 appeared normal

00:23:13.460 that night

00:23:14.040 and not upset.

00:23:15.520 Before that meeting,

00:23:16.940 Ms. Maya said

00:23:17.720 Ms. Mann told her

00:23:18.960 that she had met

00:23:20.340 with Mr. Weinstein

00:23:21.480 at a hotel

00:23:22.260 where she sang for him.

00:23:25.560 Okay.

00:23:26.360 Sounds like

00:23:26.960 she's auditioning.

00:23:28.000 Her friend

00:23:28.840 at the time

00:23:29.560 was sitting in the stand

00:23:30.220 saying no,

00:23:30.980 this is not

00:23:31.280 what the relationship was.

00:23:32.780 The guy

00:23:33.680 is also saying

00:23:35.260 I was there that morning.

00:23:36.280 She didn't seem upset

00:23:36.800 about anything.

00:23:37.280 I don't know

00:23:37.560 what was going on.

00:23:38.120 I got back on a plane.

00:23:39.060 She said she was

00:23:39.520 changing her ticket.

00:23:40.240 Okay.

00:23:41.700 Now,

00:23:42.300 here's what I can tell you.

00:23:44.020 There are

00:23:44.740 a lot

00:23:46.020 of emails.

00:23:46.920 I am talking,

00:23:47.760 let me just take a look

00:23:48.340 at this scroll,

00:23:49.640 hundreds upon

00:23:50.620 hundreds of emails

00:23:52.260 between Harvey

00:23:53.020 and Jessica Mann.

00:23:54.360 Okay.

00:23:54.780 And I have read

00:23:55.560 through them

00:23:56.020 and obviously

00:23:56.520 there's way too many

00:23:57.420 for me to show you.

00:23:58.640 I obviously could drop

00:23:59.580 them onto a website

00:24:00.480 and you should read them.

00:24:01.940 Okay.

00:24:02.940 Because

00:24:03.420 they do nothing

00:24:04.500 to dispel the idea

00:24:06.000 is what I will say

00:24:07.040 of a very

00:24:08.040 consensual relationship

00:24:09.440 that's spanned

00:24:10.240 for five years.

00:24:12.440 Five years.

00:24:13.140 So here are just a few

00:24:14.220 of these emails

00:24:15.100 that I am referring to

00:24:16.260 as an example,

00:24:17.080 right?

00:24:17.360 So a month earlier,

00:24:19.680 March 18th,

00:24:20.380 we said is when

00:24:20.940 the incident took place

00:24:22.180 that she described

00:24:22.800 as a rape,

00:24:23.380 which eventually led

00:24:24.360 to Harvey being locked up

00:24:25.340 for three years.

00:24:27.420 A month after that

00:24:28.620 on April 11th,

00:24:29.700 less than a month

00:24:30.140 after that,

00:24:30.500 so we're talking

00:24:30.760 three weeks

00:24:31.800 after that encounter.

00:24:33.340 This is an email

00:24:34.920 that she sent

00:24:36.140 to Harvey

00:24:37.140 that

00:24:38.240 was her venting

00:24:40.080 her frustration

00:24:41.000 that she's learning

00:24:42.120 that other women

00:24:43.040 are auditioning

00:24:44.500 for her part

00:24:45.340 in Vampire Academy.

00:24:47.580 She says,

00:24:48.600 I have an agent

00:24:49.740 who wants to know

00:24:50.660 who the point people are

00:24:52.020 for the creative end

00:24:53.160 of Vampire Academy.

00:24:54.940 Last I heard,

00:24:56.180 three girls are up

00:24:57.000 for the role of Natalie

00:24:57.880 and Mia's breakdown

00:24:59.680 has gone out,

00:25:01.220 which is who I want

00:25:02.520 to audition for

00:25:03.240 and Barbara

00:25:03.900 hasn't returned

00:25:05.140 my last emails

00:25:05.940 regarding VA.

00:25:07.540 I'm beginning to think

00:25:08.540 no one is taking me seriously?

00:25:10.380 Question mark.

00:25:11.500 Oh, so she's,

00:25:12.120 remember,

00:25:12.400 we remember Barbara.

00:25:13.200 Barbara was also

00:25:13.860 in Mimi's case.

00:25:14.620 Barbara,

00:25:15.420 I think it's

00:25:16.620 Shanice or something,

00:25:18.400 and she works

00:25:19.060 for Harvey Weinstein's heart.

00:25:20.020 She's upset Barbara

00:25:20.680 is not answering her emails.

00:25:22.020 She's saying,

00:25:22.640 you know,

00:25:22.900 you're supposed to try

00:25:23.420 to help me get this role.

00:25:24.880 This is three weeks

00:25:26.080 after her alleged rape.

00:25:29.000 I want to be clear.

00:25:30.380 Here's another email

00:25:31.020 that I'm just plucking

00:25:31.660 from the obscurity.

00:25:32.500 We'll have much more

00:25:33.300 of a detailed timeline

00:25:34.240 for you,

00:25:34.880 but this one's

00:25:35.580 from July 29th,

00:25:37.200 2014,

00:25:38.020 because this was

00:25:38.300 so stunning to me

00:25:39.340 when I saw it

00:25:39.960 that I just went,

00:25:40.760 you know,

00:25:40.940 I got to just share

00:25:41.860 this one because

00:25:43.080 help me,

00:25:44.680 ladies that are out there,

00:25:46.460 make this make sense.

00:25:48.020 We're now talking

00:25:48.760 about a year

00:25:49.620 and three months

00:25:50.580 after,

00:25:51.640 and many,

00:25:52.180 many emails

00:25:52.640 after your alleged rape,

00:25:54.580 many,

00:25:54.880 many more dalliances

00:25:56.240 after your alleged rape,

00:25:57.700 many more times

00:25:58.380 you go into hotel rooms

00:25:59.820 with him

00:26:00.260 after your alleged rape,

00:26:01.500 but she plans for Harvey

00:26:03.060 to take her

00:26:04.420 and her mother

00:26:05.180 on this July 29th,

00:26:06.660 2014,

00:26:07.880 out for drinks.

00:26:09.460 Look at this.

00:26:09.920 Look at this email chain.

00:26:10.780 It's unbelievable.

00:26:12.540 She said,

00:26:13.360 he emails her first

00:26:14.340 and says,

00:26:14.680 I'll be in LA tomorrow night.

00:26:15.660 Are you free

00:26:16.140 around 930 PM

00:26:17.200 for a drink?

00:26:18.240 Jessica replies and says,

00:26:19.420 it would be great

00:26:20.020 to see you.

00:26:20.660 However,

00:26:21.420 my mother would be with me

00:26:22.940 if we stopped by.

00:26:24.020 She is here

00:26:24.520 till Thursday afternoon.

00:26:26.160 I have Thursday evening

00:26:27.180 free so far.

00:26:28.420 Tomorrow,

00:26:28.900 depending on if you want

00:26:30.080 us to swing by,

00:26:31.320 we are thinking of going

00:26:32.300 to Soho with my girlfriend

00:26:33.800 if she gets back in time.

00:26:36.600 Dear Jessica,

00:26:37.280 he replies,

00:26:37.820 if you want to stop by

00:26:38.620 with your mom at 930,

00:26:39.740 you can come

00:26:40.280 or come by the Soho house

00:26:41.840 at 930 PM.

00:26:43.080 All my best, Harvey.

00:26:44.680 Jessica writes back,

00:26:45.520 yeah,

00:26:46.240 she would love to meet you.

00:26:48.640 Plus,

00:26:48.900 you can see how good

00:26:50.200 my genes are.

00:26:51.360 Winky face,

00:26:52.520 which is easier.

00:26:54.000 You want to go

00:26:54.420 to the Soho with us?

00:26:55.640 Or stay

00:26:56.220 at the peninsula.

00:26:57.920 Darn it,

00:26:58.400 another hotel

00:26:59.160 with Harvey Weinstein.

00:27:01.420 Winky face,

00:27:02.340 winky face like this.

00:27:03.560 Winky face.

00:27:05.240 You can see how good

00:27:05.900 my genes are.

00:27:07.400 You guys want to meet my mom?

00:27:08.620 You can see how good

00:27:09.240 my genes are.

00:27:10.400 Yeah,

00:27:10.920 that's what she's doing

00:27:11.340 in the Weinstein.

00:27:11.980 I don't know.

00:27:12.580 He raped her

00:27:14.300 a year and a few months ago.

00:27:15.740 Now she's dropping

00:27:16.260 the winky faces

00:27:16.980 and saying,

00:27:17.440 do you want to meet my mom?

00:27:18.320 Because she would love

00:27:19.380 to meet you.

00:27:20.040 I don't know many moms

00:27:21.320 who would love

00:27:22.860 to meet

00:27:23.880 the person

00:27:25.000 who raped their daughters.

00:27:26.920 But Jessica says

00:27:28.020 this is a situation.

00:27:29.620 And so it ends up happening

00:27:30.520 later on in that correspondence

00:27:31.940 as Harvey then changes it

00:27:33.360 for a lunch

00:27:34.680 at the peninsula

00:27:35.300 due to some scheduling conflicts.

00:27:36.620 So Harvey

00:27:37.100 apparently meets

00:27:38.920 Jessica's mom.

00:27:40.800 I thought that was weird.

00:27:41.720 Is that weird?

00:27:42.860 People in the chat,

00:27:43.480 I'm just going to check

00:27:43.860 and see like,

00:27:44.300 am I weird?

00:27:45.100 Or is everybody else weird?

00:27:46.560 Oh my gosh.

00:27:48.260 Yeah,

00:27:48.440 I think that's pretty weird.

00:27:50.540 In September

00:27:52.040 of 2014,

00:27:55.020 this is another strange one

00:27:56.120 that jumped out at me.

00:27:57.540 She's messaging Harvey

00:27:59.000 about a bad breakup

00:28:00.460 that she has.

00:28:02.080 September,

00:28:02.700 later that year,

00:28:03.380 after meeting her mom,

00:28:04.920 a few months later,

00:28:05.980 she's telling him

00:28:07.140 that she had a bad breakup

00:28:08.260 and she's looking

00:28:09.180 for consolation with him.

00:28:10.720 Okay?

00:28:11.340 So I'll show you that email.

00:28:13.240 She writes to him,

00:28:14.240 bah,

00:28:14.760 rough day.

00:28:16.200 When are you back in LA,

00:28:17.520 my friend?

00:28:18.960 And he says,

00:28:20.200 what happened?

00:28:21.240 And she says,

00:28:21.920 just tell me when you're in LA,

00:28:23.340 smiley face.

00:28:24.600 He says,

00:28:25.420 Friday for a few hours.

00:28:27.460 She writes,

00:28:28.260 went through a breakup,

00:28:29.720 was hoping for dinner with you.

00:28:32.400 Holy,

00:28:33.260 I'm in New York City.

00:28:34.300 You okay?

00:28:35.380 Want to come here tomorrow?

00:28:37.300 Okay.

00:28:37.980 I just do not know

00:28:40.640 in what world

00:28:42.520 you would want

00:28:43.440 to be consoled

00:28:44.560 by a person

00:28:45.640 who raped you

00:28:46.640 when you break up

00:28:47.900 with your boyfriend.

00:28:50.180 Saying,

00:28:50.780 like,

00:28:50.860 are you back?

00:28:51.640 I'd like to see you.

00:28:53.080 All of these things.

00:28:54.080 And like I said,

00:28:54.640 there are hundreds of emails

00:28:55.700 that are just like this.

00:28:57.780 And some fun facts

00:28:58.880 after,

00:29:00.240 this is all happening

00:29:00.960 after she was raped.

00:29:02.880 He got her a job

00:29:04.420 cutting hair

00:29:05.440 at the Peninsula Hotel

00:29:06.740 because she was

00:29:08.460 also a cosmetologist.

00:29:10.940 She also writes him

00:29:12.440 and asks him

00:29:13.240 if he can get her

00:29:14.380 into the Soho House,

00:29:15.940 which is that super exclusive club,

00:29:18.860 trendy,

00:29:19.940 and you need a sponsor

00:29:21.000 to be able to get

00:29:21.800 into the Soho House.

00:29:22.540 And he said,

00:29:23.160 I will sponsor you.

00:29:24.300 I will sponsor your application

00:29:25.520 to get into the Soho House.

00:29:26.300 And that's how she became

00:29:27.160 a member there.

00:29:28.120 He also gives her money

00:29:29.360 for her car

00:29:29.980 when she's having

00:29:30.740 some car trouble.

00:29:31.740 And you learned

00:29:33.560 through her testimony,

00:29:34.700 which we're going

00:29:35.040 to go through tomorrow,

00:29:36.380 that the two of them

00:29:37.520 embarked on threesomes together

00:29:39.660 following her rape.

00:29:42.980 I'm just giving you guys

00:29:44.200 the facts here, okay?

00:29:46.060 I'm just giving you

00:29:47.240 the facts.

00:29:48.540 I'm wondering

00:29:48.960 if you were sitting

00:29:50.020 in that jury box

00:29:52.380 what you would be thinking

00:29:54.260 as you're reading

00:29:55.140 through hundreds

00:29:55.760 and hundreds of emails

00:29:57.080 and learning

00:29:57.700 all of these things.

00:29:59.560 Here's another fun fact.

00:30:00.800 The district attorney

00:30:01.680 administered three

00:30:03.580 lie detectors

00:30:04.620 to Harvey Weinstein,

00:30:06.360 which he passed.

00:30:07.080 He passed all three of them.

00:30:08.180 One of them was about Jessica Mann.

00:30:09.660 And he has been willing

00:30:11.000 to take more

00:30:11.700 because he is saying,

00:30:14.060 I was in a consensual

00:30:15.860 sexual relation

00:30:16.720 with this woman

00:30:17.360 for years.

00:30:20.140 So you're probably wondering,

00:30:21.380 and I'm looking

00:30:21.640 at the chat right now,

00:30:22.920 you're probably wondering

00:30:23.940 how the hell

00:30:26.280 they were able

00:30:26.940 to secure a conviction.

00:30:28.640 Just how?

00:30:29.220 What happened?

00:30:29.840 And we spoke about this

00:30:30.560 in the last episode.

00:30:31.300 But it was basically

00:30:32.680 a free-for-all.

00:30:34.240 They allowed the Molyneux rule.

00:30:35.280 People could just come in

00:30:36.020 and say stuff about him,

00:30:36.940 whether it was true or false.

00:30:38.020 It didn't matter.

00:30:39.400 They could just say,

00:30:40.240 he punched his brother.

00:30:41.760 He gave me a dirty look.

00:30:42.640 He stole my pencil

00:30:43.360 in third grade.

00:30:44.280 This is a bad,

00:30:45.040 bad man.

00:30:45.740 Bad man.

00:30:46.560 We learned that the judge

00:30:47.400 was asked to recuse himself

00:30:49.340 because they spotted,

00:30:51.660 I guess,

00:30:52.020 the mayor's office

00:30:52.580 thought there was

00:30:52.960 some corruption

00:30:53.540 and he refused to do that.

00:30:55.320 It was the wild,

00:30:56.580 wild west.

00:30:57.160 And what could have

00:30:58.600 convinced them

00:30:59.100 that Jessica May,

00:30:59.680 despite the overwhelming evidence

00:31:01.440 that she was very content

00:31:04.160 in whatever their relationship was

00:31:05.920 via the emails,

00:31:06.640 which we'll get into tomorrow,

00:31:07.720 like I said,

00:31:08.220 and we'll get into her testimony,

00:31:09.320 which is just incredible.

00:31:11.200 What could have convinced them?

00:31:12.420 And I'm going to go with emotion,

00:31:15.620 okay?

00:31:16.380 Because I know

00:31:17.180 that one thing

00:31:18.360 that likely could have contributed

00:31:20.040 to persuade the jury

00:31:21.160 that Jessica was a victim

00:31:23.840 was the fact that she had

00:31:25.340 a panic attack on the stand

00:31:27.140 when she was recounting

00:31:28.840 a sexual assault

00:31:29.880 that had occurred in her youth.

00:31:31.480 Not something that happened

00:31:32.600 from Harvey Weinstein,

00:31:33.620 but something unrelated

00:31:34.600 to Harvey Weinstein.

00:31:36.260 And she was then brought down

00:31:38.280 from the stand

00:31:38.960 and put into the witness chambers

00:31:41.420 and she just started screaming,

00:31:44.040 just screaming in pain,

00:31:47.500 having gone back

00:31:48.400 into this memory

00:31:49.260 of this sexual assault

00:31:50.460 that had nothing to do with Harvey.

00:31:51.920 But you imagine you're a jury,

00:31:52.760 you hear this woman screaming.

00:31:55.000 And she then, by the way,

00:31:56.360 contextualized for the judge

00:31:58.180 and the jury

00:31:59.340 what those screams were about.

00:32:00.920 And here is what she said

00:32:03.040 eventually to News Nation

00:32:04.280 about that moment

00:32:05.260 in her own words.

00:32:06.360 Take a listen.

00:32:07.480 Man says she completely broke down

00:32:09.220 on the witness stand

00:32:10.020 when it came out in court

00:32:11.040 that she had been sexually assaulted

00:32:12.480 when she was younger.

00:32:13.760 She left the courtroom

00:32:14.640 and could be heard screaming

00:32:15.980 from a back room.

00:32:17.420 And some questioned

00:32:18.340 whether her emotional collapse

00:32:19.880 would affect the trial.

00:32:21.420 I was just brutally stretched

00:32:25.300 in every way

00:32:27.920 on that stand.

00:32:30.340 and I just hit a breaking point

00:32:34.920 and I went into

00:32:37.580 tremendous flashbacks.

00:32:40.960 Everything that I had trapped inside of me

00:32:44.860 just released.

00:32:47.460 And it was so much at once.

00:32:50.940 It was overwhelming.

00:32:52.640 I was on the floor

00:32:53.880 processing this.

00:32:55.180 But to finally vocalize

00:32:57.700 those screams

00:32:58.840 even though I was in the pain

00:33:00.820 of reliving it

00:33:01.640 was

00:33:02.900 something that needed to happen

00:33:06.500 that took that moment

00:33:08.340 for that to happen.

00:33:09.780 At the close of the trial

00:33:10.700 Mann read a letter

00:33:11.760 to the judge aloud

00:33:12.920 explaining her screams that day.

00:33:14.900 Your Honor

00:33:15.460 the day my uncontrollable screams

00:33:17.780 were heard from the witness room

00:33:18.980 was the day

00:33:19.900 my full voice

00:33:20.800 came back into my power.

00:33:21.880 Those were the screams

00:33:23.220 that wanted to come out

00:33:24.120 while Harvey was raping me.

00:33:25.960 Those were the screams

00:33:26.680 of a terrified young woman

00:33:28.020 reliving experiences

00:33:29.360 of horrific violence

00:33:30.520 against her body.

00:33:32.060 Those were the screams

00:33:32.900 that will forever

00:33:33.780 haunt those who witnessed me.

00:33:37.660 So that's what happened.

00:33:38.900 She had a panic attack

00:33:40.240 and she went into the room

00:33:41.400 and she started screaming

00:33:42.480 guttural screams

00:33:43.520 screaming

00:33:43.960 the jury could hear her

00:33:45.060 the judge could hear her

00:33:46.040 and they're wondering

00:33:46.380 what's going on

00:33:46.900 and now she's contextualized it

00:33:48.280 for those of you

00:33:48.920 who are wondering

00:33:49.880 is that those were

00:33:50.840 those were all of the screams

00:33:52.320 of everything she's ever lived

00:33:53.420 through in her life.

00:33:55.500 Everything you know

00:33:56.560 you just every feeling

00:33:58.500 she's ever felt

00:33:59.300 since her childhood

00:34:00.040 those were the screams

00:34:01.020 the guttural screams

00:34:01.860 and people wondering

00:34:02.840 if that could have colored

00:34:03.740 the jury

00:34:04.320 tainted the jury a little bit.

00:34:06.520 I mean I would go with yes

00:34:07.520 I would go with

00:34:08.400 maybe perhaps

00:34:09.260 this trial being overturned

00:34:11.180 was the correct thing

00:34:12.240 that happened

00:34:12.880 because it does

00:34:14.260 seems to be the case

00:34:15.300 every time I look into

00:34:15.960 one of these

00:34:17.000 women who put Harvey in prison

00:34:19.400 that wherever there seems

00:34:21.460 to be evidence lacking

00:34:22.920 there is a lot of emotion.

00:34:25.120 There are breakdowns

00:34:26.060 and things that happen

00:34:26.780 when you can't really answer

00:34:28.540 basic questions

00:34:29.720 you just scream

00:34:31.480 and cry

00:34:32.640 shake uncontrollably

00:34:34.240 say you need a break

00:34:35.320 say you need water

00:34:36.160 it's almost like someone

00:34:37.200 is like coaxing them

00:34:38.540 to do that

00:34:39.040 like someone is training them

00:34:40.400 like this is what you should do

00:34:41.900 in this circumstance

00:34:43.080 if you get asked

00:34:44.100 a tough question

00:34:44.860 and you don't think

00:34:45.980 you're going to win this thing

00:34:46.820 you got to have

00:34:47.580 you got to have

00:34:48.260 some lady feelings

00:34:49.780 I'm just saying

00:34:50.940 I'm just saying

00:34:52.100 I'm just delivering you

00:34:53.240 the facts of what happened

00:34:54.100 during that trial

00:34:54.620 so if you're wondering

00:34:55.340 when people are pretending

00:34:56.080 that this getting overturned

00:34:57.220 was crazy

00:34:57.760 it's actually the most

00:34:59.360 saying thing I've ever seen

00:35:00.160 in my entire life

00:35:00.980 and we're not even

00:35:02.560 scratching the surface here

00:35:03.600 wait till we get

00:35:04.240 to her testimony

00:35:05.000 actually I'm going to

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00:37:26.060 all right you guys

00:37:27.820 now i'm looking

00:37:29.160 at the chat

00:37:30.860 and people

00:37:31.340 are not finding

00:37:32.840 jessica man

00:37:33.580 to have been convincing

00:37:34.780 in that at the

00:37:35.900 opportune moment

00:37:36.900 she went back

00:37:37.820 into her childhood

00:37:39.260 and staged a scream

00:37:40.680 for everything

00:37:41.220 she had ever lived

00:37:42.160 through

00:37:42.480 and there could be

00:37:44.740 a reason that she

00:37:45.860 did not make it

00:37:46.760 as an actress

00:37:47.400 i find a lot of

00:37:48.340 these women

00:37:48.780 to be quite sickening

00:37:50.540 if i'm being frank

00:37:51.160 about this

00:37:51.680 and i'm just

00:37:52.820 like i said

00:37:53.460 i've told you

00:37:53.980 my stake in this

00:37:54.740 there are real victims

00:37:55.940 there are plenty

00:37:57.140 of real actual victims

00:37:58.560 who do not

00:38:00.000 correspond for

00:38:01.560 five years

00:38:02.920 with the people

00:38:03.700 who raped them

00:38:04.520 who do not invite

00:38:05.220 their moms

00:38:05.740 to meet them

00:38:06.480 whose moms

00:38:07.200 do not love

00:38:08.100 to meet them

00:38:09.020 winky face

00:38:10.060 so they can see

00:38:10.700 where they get

00:38:11.140 their genes from

00:38:12.040 there are plenty

00:38:13.000 of people

00:38:13.620 who have lived

00:38:14.280 through horrific

00:38:14.740 circumstances

00:38:15.560 and who have

00:38:16.040 gotten out

00:38:16.380 of those circumstances

00:38:17.120 and did not

00:38:19.640 do any of the

00:38:20.640 things that these

00:38:21.540 washed up actresses

00:38:23.000 seem to partake in

00:38:23.900 in my viewpoint

00:38:25.060 now like i said

00:38:26.520 no doubt harvey

00:38:27.480 would not be in

00:38:27.880 the circumstance

00:38:28.440 had he not

00:38:28.960 cheated on his wife

00:38:29.620 he is not

00:38:30.820 blameless

00:38:31.280 and he is not

00:38:32.080 an innocent person

00:38:33.100 but i do not

00:38:33.700 find him

00:38:34.580 to be guilty

00:38:35.440 of the crimes

00:38:36.240 for which he

00:38:36.800 is given

00:38:37.260 23 years

00:38:39.560 for ladies

00:38:40.600 and gentlemen

00:38:41.180 23 years

00:38:43.380 past a lie detector

00:38:45.200 test that was

00:38:46.160 given by the

00:38:47.100 point person

00:38:47.800 for the district

00:38:48.440 attorney

00:38:48.780 so the district

00:38:49.260 attorney said

00:38:49.640 this is the best

00:38:50.600 person to do

00:38:51.320 the lie detector

00:38:51.740 test

00:38:52.080 he took that

00:38:53.360 lie detector test

00:38:54.140 and he passed

00:38:55.360 it

00:38:55.580 okay

00:38:56.140 now i want to

00:38:57.340 read this email

00:38:57.720 to you so

00:38:58.100 jessica mann

00:38:59.400 was apparently

00:38:59.900 in a relationship

00:39:00.600 and we'll get

00:39:01.220 into more of that

00:39:01.780 tomorrow because

00:39:02.400 they're in this

00:39:03.420 like her and harvey

00:39:04.340 are hooking up

00:39:04.800 and then she

00:39:05.140 kind of says

00:39:05.480 i don't want

00:39:05.740 to hook up

00:39:06.080 anymore because

00:39:07.240 she's got some

00:39:07.720 stuff going on

00:39:08.500 and that's going

00:39:08.900 to be this

00:39:09.480 boyfriend i presume

00:39:10.700 but um on may

00:39:12.660 22nd 2014

00:39:13.820 her and her

00:39:15.500 boyfriend apparently

00:39:16.640 had broken up

00:39:17.580 maybe that's why

00:39:18.640 she asks harvey

00:39:19.640 to console her

00:39:20.380 a couple of

00:39:20.820 months thereafter

00:39:21.440 and she writes

00:39:23.020 him this email

00:39:23.840 and he never

00:39:25.260 writes her back

00:39:25.860 he never ever

00:39:26.460 writes her back

00:39:27.040 so i'm going to

00:39:27.500 read the email

00:39:28.020 that jessica wrote

00:39:29.200 about her

00:39:30.220 relationship

00:39:30.820 with harvey

00:39:31.380 weinstein

00:39:31.840 because i think

00:39:32.540 it is relevant

00:39:33.320 okay

00:39:33.780 dear blank

00:39:34.980 we'll just call

00:39:35.440 him john

00:39:35.980 dear john

00:39:36.960 i feel that i

00:39:38.320 know in my heart

00:39:38.940 what i'm about

00:39:39.680 to share with you

00:39:40.320 will stay right

00:39:40.960 here where it

00:39:41.580 is i understand

00:39:42.460 if what i say

00:39:43.260 hurts so bad

00:39:44.260 that you seek

00:39:44.800 counsel i will

00:39:45.880 trust it is with

00:39:46.540 the right people

00:39:47.140 however your

00:39:48.340 response on whatsapp

00:39:49.420 has really really

00:39:50.300 hurt because i

00:39:51.100 had hoped to be

00:39:51.760 met with love

00:39:52.360 and i feel met

00:39:53.080 with hate

00:39:53.520 so i re-evaluated

00:39:55.400 my reason for

00:39:56.180 letting you into

00:39:56.940 this part of me

00:39:57.660 it is to love you

00:39:58.420 and not myself

00:39:59.160 to let you know

00:39:59.860 the truth of all

00:40:00.740 i am so that you

00:40:01.940 will no longer

00:40:02.360 love only parts

00:40:03.340 of me i would

00:40:04.580 have loved you

00:40:05.160 to be in a place

00:40:06.280 that would have

00:40:07.160 that you would

00:40:07.540 would have

00:40:08.260 responded i'm

00:40:09.000 here to listen

00:40:09.480 when you want

00:40:09.900 to share but i

00:40:10.480 can't control

00:40:10.920 that i have

00:40:12.340 desperately wanted

00:40:13.240 and pushed you

00:40:13.960 to have an honest

00:40:14.800 relationship with

00:40:15.520 me yet all along

00:40:16.900 there have been

00:40:17.400 parts of myself

00:40:18.240 back what i'm

00:40:19.960 about to say

00:40:20.480 takes place around

00:40:21.500 the time we first

00:40:22.400 met through the

00:40:23.240 ons and offs

00:40:24.240 i knew by the

00:40:25.600 things you said

00:40:26.240 what you would

00:40:27.200 accept in me

00:40:27.800 and what you

00:40:28.180 wouldn't so i

00:40:28.720 lived in fear

00:40:29.200 of rejection

00:40:29.740 then living in

00:40:30.960 fear of that

00:40:31.360 rejection i found

00:40:32.160 myself angry i

00:40:32.980 was angry that

00:40:33.640 because of mistakes

00:40:34.320 i had made in my

00:40:35.100 life or wounds

00:40:35.740 that i had i felt

00:40:36.640 judged by them

00:40:37.660 i didn't know how

00:40:39.020 to change them

00:40:39.920 and i can say

00:40:41.100 without knowing

00:40:41.660 who i was at a

00:40:42.400 time when i

00:40:42.780 finally broke out

00:40:43.620 of a cycle of

00:40:44.340 relationships that

00:40:45.100 were controlling

00:40:45.660 i rebelled against

00:40:47.200 living my life

00:40:48.040 according to the

00:40:48.820 standards that

00:40:49.460 someone else set

00:40:50.640 those standards

00:40:51.860 you have are

00:40:52.840 actually very in

00:40:54.200 line with who i

00:40:54.920 am but when we

00:40:56.120 met i had lost

00:40:57.160 so much of

00:40:57.780 myself to

00:40:58.320 controlling

00:40:58.640 relationships

00:40:59.340 but i found

00:41:00.300 myself competing

00:41:00.980 with many aspects

00:41:02.020 of myself or

00:41:03.000 illusions the

00:41:04.180 illusions that i

00:41:05.140 had to do

00:41:05.700 opposite of what

00:41:06.540 you felt so that

00:41:07.620 i wouldn't feel

00:41:08.060 like i was just

00:41:08.640 living to win your

00:41:09.460 approval i have

00:41:11.420 said john can

00:41:12.600 never know blank

00:41:13.420 because i would

00:41:13.940 die if he did

00:41:14.840 because i knew

00:41:15.680 what would happen

00:41:16.280 and that would

00:41:16.780 mean that you

00:41:17.160 would never talk

00:41:17.820 to me again

00:41:18.340 there were those

00:41:19.560 around me who

00:41:20.120 said he never

00:41:21.060 needs to know

00:41:22.020 in a way i

00:41:22.780 agreed because

00:41:23.480 sometimes things

00:41:24.340 just don't

00:41:24.800 matter or a

00:41:25.880 part of the

00:41:26.240 past but what

00:41:27.360 i do know is

00:41:28.060 that knowing how

00:41:28.660 you would feel

00:41:29.180 about this

00:41:29.520 information during

00:41:30.240 the time i have

00:41:30.820 known you created

00:41:31.960 a dynamic in me

00:41:32.740 that always felt

00:41:33.460 like maybe i

00:41:34.080 never knew the

00:41:35.060 truth of your

00:41:35.500 life my secret

00:41:37.920 my fear is

00:41:38.800 knowing that a

00:41:39.260 part of the

00:41:39.580 dynamic i had

00:41:40.320 with harvey would

00:41:41.720 mean that you

00:41:42.280 would never talk

00:41:42.940 to me again i

00:41:44.520 had to work

00:41:45.140 through a lot of

00:41:45.680 delusion in that

00:41:46.360 situation and

00:41:47.560 father issues i

00:41:50.080 was close enough

00:41:50.980 to him to tell

00:41:52.320 you that he no

00:41:53.060 longer has a

00:41:53.780 working penis

00:41:54.500 on the lower

00:41:55.400 half of his

00:41:56.080 body he had

00:41:56.780 some type of

00:41:57.300 surgery or burn

00:41:58.340 and is lucky to

00:41:59.440 even have his

00:42:00.100 parts i never

00:42:01.300 asked what

00:42:01.900 happened i once

00:42:03.500 tried to tell you

00:42:04.360 that i lived in

00:42:05.380 silver lake and

00:42:06.200 you were still at

00:42:07.400 carrie's at the

00:42:08.180 porch i told you

00:42:09.660 how sometimes i

00:42:10.620 felt hopeless and

00:42:11.380 that i should just

00:42:11.900 be with an older

00:42:12.620 man because i'm a

00:42:13.900 lost cause harvey

00:42:16.000 was someone i

00:42:16.740 believed i saw

00:42:18.140 past the junk

00:42:19.280 because my own

00:42:20.520 issues in me found

00:42:21.540 ways to bond in

00:42:22.540 that situation

00:42:23.140 whether they are

00:42:23.660 true or not i

00:42:24.360 accepted that my

00:42:25.140 father was that

00:42:26.540 older man who

00:42:27.380 dated women that

00:42:28.580 were younger than

00:42:29.080 me and i in turn

00:42:30.620 would become that

00:42:31.620 kind of woman

00:42:32.260 because of my

00:42:32.880 failed relationships

00:42:33.960 harvey validated

00:42:35.500 me he always

00:42:36.720 offered to help me

00:42:37.780 in ways that my

00:42:38.500 parents did not

00:42:39.380 i felt approval to

00:42:41.020 pursue the industry

00:42:41.900 because he

00:42:42.420 encouraged me to

00:42:43.400 and is who he

00:42:44.940 is in it my

00:42:46.180 parents would never

00:42:46.900 invest in me for

00:42:47.680 that i literally

00:42:48.500 left my father's

00:42:49.540 house to escape

00:42:50.240 because i could not

00:42:51.160 live the life that

00:42:51.820 they wanted me

00:42:52.380 to i took the

00:42:53.840 last of my money

00:42:54.640 bought a one-way

00:42:55.720 ticket had a

00:42:56.720 suitcase and one

00:42:57.720 bag and flew to

00:42:58.540 burbank airport i

00:42:59.940 arrived with nothing

00:43:00.940 no home no

00:43:01.620 direction i just did

00:43:02.480 it because that was

00:43:03.220 my breaking point

00:43:04.000 god provided a day

00:43:06.360 later i moved in

00:43:07.280 with danny in north

00:43:08.100 hollywood out of

00:43:08.840 the blue and got a

00:43:09.860 job with bobby ball

00:43:10.880 nothing in my life

00:43:12.600 fell into place until

00:43:13.480 i did the unthinkable

00:43:14.320 and bought that

00:43:14.960 plane ticket i used

00:43:17.200 to walk five miles a

00:43:18.160 day and from work

00:43:19.360 just to live harvey

00:43:21.200 was my father's age

00:43:22.360 and gave me all the

00:43:24.600 validation that i

00:43:25.320 needed that i thought

00:43:26.260 at that time he

00:43:28.180 offered to give me

00:43:28.920 things i refused them

00:43:30.440 all i never let him

00:43:31.360 buy me things or

00:43:32.100 give me money which

00:43:33.220 he tried i did let

00:43:34.720 him change my plane

00:43:35.460 ticket so i could

00:43:36.100 stay an extra day in

00:43:36.940 new york with

00:43:37.500 toleda when i went

00:43:38.540 to the august osage

00:43:39.620 county screening i

00:43:41.340 rarely saw him

00:43:42.200 because of scheduling

00:43:42.960 and a big part of

00:43:43.720 myself avoided him

00:43:44.580 because i didn't yet

00:43:45.280 control the situation

00:43:46.300 i think he liked me

00:43:47.880 because in a way he

00:43:48.580 couldn't get me and

00:43:49.400 i didn't take from

00:43:50.080 him i didn't have an

00:43:50.860 agenda other than my

00:43:52.160 own wounds playing

00:43:53.300 out subconsciously

00:43:54.560 i have long since had

00:43:56.820 very clear boundaries

00:43:57.660 with him i still had

00:43:58.760 gone to some of the

00:43:59.480 invitations that he

00:44:00.380 sent me and he was

00:44:01.440 always he had always

00:44:02.780 been very nice to me

00:44:03.760 i held on because i

00:44:05.260 did feel a sense of

00:44:06.220 friendship with him

00:44:06.840 and i felt like the

00:44:07.480 situation finally was

00:44:08.640 defined i grew to

00:44:10.500 know who i was i did

00:44:12.260 continue to cut his

00:44:13.060 hair once or twice

00:44:13.880 and i think i had to

00:44:14.840 fight for that with

00:44:15.520 you because i needed

00:44:16.580 to not feel shame

00:44:17.600 from what i was

00:44:18.500 afraid that you

00:44:19.620 would think i

00:44:21.880 remember the day

00:44:22.420 that i realized that

00:44:23.120 i was controlling my

00:44:24.080 world because i was

00:44:24.920 sexually assaulted

00:44:25.840 again she's referring

00:44:27.320 to the earlier sexual

00:44:28.600 assault that happened

00:44:29.220 to her before she

00:44:29.880 came to la i presume

00:44:30.880 and that story played

00:44:32.300 out where i played

00:44:33.300 into sexual dynamics

00:44:35.100 with people to feel

00:44:36.520 like i would never be

00:44:37.380 taken advantage of

00:44:38.140 again when that

00:44:39.740 happened i grieved

00:44:40.520 deeply for myself it

00:44:41.660 was then i looked at

00:44:43.100 the true father wounds

00:44:44.540 that played out

00:44:45.300 specifically in me

00:44:47.000 with my father and

00:44:48.320 harvey i tried to

00:44:49.760 make him a pseudo

00:44:51.340 father i mean she

00:44:54.620 is completely admitting

00:44:56.160 in this email to her

00:44:57.640 boyfriend that she

00:44:59.580 has daddy issues so

00:45:01.200 she pursued what i

00:45:02.580 would describe as a

00:45:03.660 sugar baby sugar daddy

00:45:04.660 relationship when she

00:45:05.580 got to la and she

00:45:07.580 admits that harvey was

00:45:08.420 very nice to her she

00:45:09.760 admits that when she

00:45:10.540 wanted to she put up

00:45:11.580 boundaries with harvey

00:45:12.640 so i am just on i would

00:45:14.640 just like to understand

00:45:16.120 okay for people that

00:45:18.060 are listening to this

00:45:18.920 how beyond raw emotion

00:45:22.160 in a courtroom he is

00:45:24.240 in prison for rape how

00:45:27.680 despite the testimony of

00:45:28.760 her best friend at the

00:45:30.100 time who was there with

00:45:30.920 her through their

00:45:31.740 relationship with harvey

00:45:32.600 who knew everything was

00:45:33.860 there when she says that

00:45:35.340 she was assaulted

00:45:35.980 multiple times right she

00:45:37.420 was there how did were

00:45:39.840 they able to just say

00:45:40.820 yeah throw away the key

00:45:41.800 this is the power you

00:45:43.740 guys of social justice

00:45:44.800 movements and this is

00:45:45.540 the reason why you have

00:45:46.620 to be very careful

00:45:47.520 because eventually

00:45:48.360 they're they're not

00:45:49.480 concerned with real

00:45:50.280 justice it's about

00:45:50.980 social justice the me

00:45:52.180 too movement is

00:45:52.680 trending we need to

00:45:53.880 hang somebody on this

00:45:54.880 movement why not have

00:45:56.520 it be someone like

00:45:57.440 harvey weinstein so we

00:45:58.460 can all go back to bed

00:45:59.520 and feel like we've

00:46:00.460 done something okay

00:46:01.800 again we can talk about

00:46:03.780 the fact that harvey

00:46:04.640 abused his power he

00:46:05.560 did we could talk about

00:46:06.780 the fact that he was

00:46:07.380 running a hotel room

00:46:08.360 like it was the casting

00:46:09.480 couch he did we could

00:46:10.960 definitely speak about

00:46:11.740 the fact that he is

00:46:13.140 not innocent because

00:46:13.740 of what he did to his

00:46:14.240 wife and his kids all

00:46:15.180 of those things would

00:46:15.780 be true but you don't

00:46:17.640 put a person in prison

00:46:18.800 for 23 years because

00:46:20.660 women wanted to trade

00:46:21.580 sex for careers okay

00:46:23.400 that's my opinion

00:46:24.340 anyways and i'm sticking

00:46:25.300 to it all right i'm

00:46:26.720 going to tell you guys

00:46:27.480 about american financing

00:46:28.160 before i read some of

00:46:28.900 your comments i am sure

00:46:30.000 that you are shocked

00:46:31.200 reading all of this and

00:46:32.080 it's only going to get

00:46:32.660 crazier when we do the

00:46:33.660 next episode because

00:46:34.720 jessica mann really is

00:46:35.900 someone okay uh

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00:46:48.420 it's not your fault life

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00:46:52.680 if you are still carrying

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00:47:36.580 all right guys let's get

00:47:37.680 into some of your

00:47:38.080 comments first one

00:47:38.800 remind you that we have

00:47:39.520 a new book club meeting

00:47:40.860 tomorrow at 6 p.m

00:47:41.920 and i'm pretty sure

00:47:43.340 a live chat is working

00:47:44.220 is that right skylar

00:47:45.080 and mark

00:47:45.560 the live chat will be

00:47:48.220 operational i'm super

00:47:49.480 excited about that so

00:47:50.560 we will see you guys

00:47:51.620 tomorrow at 6 p.m

00:47:53.020 eastern as we continue

00:47:54.800 chaos so that's going to

00:47:56.060 be a very fun day

00:47:57.020 just to get to some of

00:47:58.680 your comments regarding

00:47:59.720 today's episode i'm sure

00:48:01.040 you guys are very shocked

00:48:02.060 running a lot of this

00:48:02.980 stuff

00:48:03.300 spittin fire right

00:48:04.780 that fake slogan

00:48:06.200 believe all women

00:48:07.180 tainted the courts

00:48:08.400 and jurors

00:48:09.160 yes

00:48:09.600 as i have maintained

00:48:10.980 since the beginning

00:48:11.600 i don't believe men

00:48:12.600 i don't believe women

00:48:13.400 i just like to follow

00:48:14.460 the facts

00:48:15.080 and i have seen

00:48:16.680 both sexes

00:48:17.500 do horrific things

00:48:18.320 and tell terrible lies

00:48:19.400 and we can't have

00:48:20.660 a courtroom

00:48:21.100 that is favoring people

00:48:22.220 on the basis of their

00:48:23.000 sex and saying

00:48:23.680 the facts don't matter

00:48:24.520 because you're crying

00:48:25.320 caitlin writes

00:48:26.640 this is beyond absurd

00:48:27.760 ridiculous and downright

00:48:28.800 false

00:48:29.160 do these women

00:48:29.580 not have a soul

00:48:30.420 do they not have

00:48:31.220 any morals

00:48:31.780 if they ever did

00:48:32.860 they sold them

00:48:33.480 years ago

00:48:34.140 no sane righteous

00:48:35.220 virtuous person

00:48:36.000 would make such

00:48:36.540 egregious abhorrent

00:48:37.700 accusations

00:48:38.380 and as a survivor

00:48:39.600 myself no victim

00:48:40.580 would behave in such

00:48:41.560 ways toward their

00:48:42.760 abuser after being

00:48:44.120 assaulted

00:48:44.500 disgusted

00:48:45.280 god judges all

00:48:46.880 and these women

00:48:47.460 will be judged

00:48:48.040 that's my thing

00:48:49.220 it's like i can't

00:48:50.060 imagine if i put a

00:48:51.300 man in prison for

00:48:52.040 20 years

00:48:53.000 it would just

00:48:54.540 rot me from the

00:48:55.660 inside out

00:48:56.340 knowing what i did

00:48:58.020 and what i what my

00:48:59.200 mindset was

00:49:00.100 and what i was

00:49:01.320 trying to get out

00:49:01.800 of that person

00:49:02.320 and then pretending

00:49:03.700 otherwise

00:49:04.300 and knowing that

00:49:05.400 that person's entire

00:49:06.280 life like

00:49:06.840 he's growing up

00:49:08.240 like his kids are

00:49:08.800 growing up without

00:49:09.260 him

00:49:09.660 i suppose you're

00:49:10.700 just being honest

00:49:11.460 you know and

00:49:12.280 listen

00:49:13.000 allegedly she was

00:49:14.500 honest on the stand

00:49:15.420 she honestly

00:49:16.600 got him for rape

00:49:18.000 so you can't

00:49:19.120 you can't say

00:49:19.840 she was lying

00:49:20.440 because the jury

00:49:21.200 decided that she

00:49:21.900 wasn't after she

00:49:22.660 had a panic attack

00:49:23.380 on the stand

00:49:24.120 and a lot of

00:49:25.000 things were allowed

00:49:25.500 to fly in that

00:49:26.100 courtroom

00:49:26.460 all i know is

00:49:27.380 i'll be paying

00:49:27.800 close attention

00:49:28.400 as his trial

00:49:29.080 comes up

00:49:29.620 next month

00:49:30.540 his appeal

00:49:31.380 appellate trial

00:49:32.100 actually begins

00:49:33.200 which is why i'm

00:49:33.620 giving you guys

00:49:34.100 this background

00:49:34.640 so that when you

00:49:35.080 follow it you

00:49:35.600 actually know

00:49:36.060 what's happening

00:49:36.660 because the media

00:49:37.760 does not do

00:49:38.440 its job

00:49:39.060 and certainly

00:49:39.920 i don't think

00:49:40.560 presented any

00:49:41.720 of these facts

00:49:42.320 in a manner

00:49:42.660 that was clear

00:49:43.160 to the public

00:49:43.760 jessica writes

00:49:45.100 not me switching

00:49:45.800 my baby's nap

00:49:46.620 schedule so i can

00:49:47.420 watch candace

00:49:48.140 uninterrupted

00:49:49.020 it's good

00:49:49.680 he likes the new

00:49:50.360 schedule he or

00:49:51.060 she likes the new

00:49:51.700 schedule i promise

00:49:52.540 mia writes

00:49:53.700 hi candace

00:49:54.340 can you do a video

00:49:54.940 about megan markel's

00:49:55.840 hardcore fans

00:49:56.660 they use the race

00:49:58.140 card against

00:49:58.700 anyone who isn't

00:49:59.420 a fan or even

00:50:00.060 has the slightest

00:50:00.580 criticism the victim

00:50:02.080 narrative this

00:50:02.620 narcissist perpetuates

00:50:03.760 is getting old

00:50:04.640 yeah i have not

00:50:05.920 yet subjected

00:50:06.560 myself to her new

00:50:07.460 series because i

00:50:08.240 knew it was going

00:50:08.800 to be super

00:50:09.480 cringe and you

00:50:11.340 know look at

00:50:12.400 megan markel

00:50:12.960 d-list actress

00:50:13.740 wanted to make

00:50:14.240 it into hollywood

00:50:14.800 went and found

00:50:15.280 herself a prince

00:50:15.920 that would make

00:50:16.400 her next door

00:50:16.940 neighbors with

00:50:17.460 oprah i saw her

00:50:18.520 coming from a

00:50:19.080 very far way

00:50:20.240 now she wants

00:50:20.960 everyone to forget

00:50:21.520 she was d-list

00:50:22.040 actress and she

00:50:23.000 but she's still

00:50:23.460 kind of d-list

00:50:24.080 acting and now

00:50:25.400 she wants to think

00:50:26.020 that she's martha

00:50:26.600 stewart it's

00:50:27.240 weird and i

00:50:28.840 think it's sad

00:50:29.700 that she just

00:50:31.360 can't be her

00:50:31.860 authentic self

00:50:32.600 but she had to

00:50:33.640 deliver her pound

00:50:34.900 of flesh to

00:50:35.740 netflix one way

00:50:36.620 or the other

00:50:37.000 her and her

00:50:37.760 husband had prior

00:50:38.440 agreed to that

00:50:39.100 so the first pound

00:50:39.800 of flesh was

00:50:40.280 delivering her

00:50:40.760 family his

00:50:41.640 family and they

00:50:42.720 made a ton of

00:50:43.180 money off of

00:50:43.620 that and then

00:50:44.360 he went and did

00:50:44.980 the invictus games

00:50:45.900 and she has to

00:50:46.640 now do her thing

00:50:47.640 so it's happening

00:50:48.660 and there's nothing

00:50:49.160 that anyone can do

00:50:49.880 about it and you

00:50:50.880 know like i said

00:50:52.480 just speaking

00:50:53.680 about this

00:50:54.060 situation people

00:50:54.860 who lay their

00:50:55.760 heads on pillows

00:50:56.380 at night and

00:50:57.160 know the things

00:50:57.800 that they do

00:50:58.420 the fact that he

00:51:00.140 doesn't have a

00:51:00.460 relationship with

00:51:00.800 his family to me

00:51:01.500 is just unimaginable

00:51:02.480 i think you know

00:51:03.140 when you get

00:51:03.500 marriage when you

00:51:04.340 get married the

00:51:05.920 relationships in

00:51:06.600 your family should

00:51:07.220 get better you

00:51:07.800 should try to

00:51:08.280 make sure those

00:51:08.880 relationships get

00:51:09.380 better and i just

00:51:10.780 nothing about that

00:51:11.900 marriage that's right

00:51:12.640 with me and it

00:51:13.180 has nothing to do

00:51:13.980 with the color of

00:51:14.740 her skin obviously

00:51:15.460 as an american

00:51:16.160 who married an

00:51:17.220 englishman and

00:51:17.720 had a very

00:51:18.100 different outcome

00:51:18.920 um charamar writes

00:51:21.840 thank you for

00:51:22.420 doing a deep

00:51:22.920 dive into this

00:51:23.560 are we getting

00:51:24.060 names of actresses

00:51:25.560 who have slept

00:51:26.240 with him yes

00:51:27.440 when i have a

00:51:28.600 conversation with

00:51:29.180 harvey weinstein

00:51:29.780 that you guys can

00:51:30.400 hear following

00:51:31.680 his um appeals

00:51:34.120 we will definitely

00:51:35.200 speak about all

00:51:36.640 of the actresses

00:51:37.540 who came out and

00:51:38.340 made allegations

00:51:38.860 against him but

00:51:39.480 never actually made

00:51:41.220 it to the courtroom

00:51:41.800 because there's a

00:51:43.000 reason for that and

00:51:44.240 it's going to get

00:51:45.100 very interesting i'll

00:51:45.860 just leave it at

00:51:46.240 that not going to

00:51:46.900 say too much right

00:51:47.560 now but it's

00:51:48.920 you know like i

00:51:49.900 said harvey

00:51:50.380 weinstein is harvey

00:51:51.040 weinstein and

00:51:52.080 harvey remembers

00:51:53.440 maybe that's what i

00:51:54.220 should have named

00:51:54.600 the series harvey

00:51:55.780 remembers all right

00:51:57.100 guys if you would

00:51:57.760 like to join the

00:51:58.360 book club you can

00:51:58.980 head to

00:51:59.220 candaceowens.com and

00:52:00.500 sign up and join

00:52:01.280 just the book club

00:52:02.040 or maybe you want to

00:52:02.780 join uh just a shot

00:52:04.260 in the dark and

00:52:04.980 follow the series so

00:52:06.140 many of you guys

00:52:06.560 watched the mmr

00:52:07.400 vaccine episode last

00:52:09.240 week when we released

00:52:09.980 it for free there's so

00:52:10.940 much more content

00:52:11.640 coming and of course

00:52:13.020 if you are having a

00:52:13.700 child i highly

00:52:15.140 recommend that you go

00:52:16.020 through that series

00:52:16.680 just so you understand

00:52:17.700 the basic history of

00:52:19.140 all these vaccines

00:52:20.000 so you don't just

00:52:20.620 get gaslit from

00:52:21.420 doctors who are

00:52:22.140 telling you your

00:52:22.620 baby will die

00:52:23.400 unless you agree to

00:52:25.640 give them a bunch of

00:52:26.520 shots many of which

00:52:28.160 have very toxic

00:52:29.080 chemicals in them all

00:52:30.040 of which have toxic

00:52:31.040 chemicals in them and

00:52:32.160 definitely i'm very

00:52:33.860 grateful that i had the

00:52:34.740 opportunity to do that

00:52:35.400 series and that so

00:52:36.340 many people responded

00:52:37.080 beyond that you guys

00:52:38.640 we will see you

00:52:40.120 tomorrow

00:52:40.640 you

Candace Owens - March 10, 2025

Harvey Speaks： Jessica Mann & The Five Year Affair ｜ Ep 3

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