Candace Owens - How We Faked The Moon Landing With Bart Sibrel

00:00:00.000 All right, guys, let me give you a little scenario. Let's say you took your kids to Disney

00:00:03.660 World, okay? Get back from Disney World. It was a great trip. You had a great vacation. And then

00:00:07.440 one of your friends says, I don't think you actually went to Disney World. Did you go to

00:00:10.620 Disney World? And you said, yeah, of course, I went to Disney World. And he says, would you swear

00:00:15.520 on the Bible that you took your kids to Disney World? You'd probably say, yeah, you're being

00:00:18.940 pretty weird, but I would swear on the Bible and say I took my kids to Disney World. You probably

00:00:23.760 wouldn't punch them in the face because you would just think they're being weird. It's

00:00:29.980 a very strange thing when you talk about the topic of the moon landing to see people get

00:00:34.440 so incensed over it. I realize this. I've never been a person that believed in the moon landing

00:00:38.900 has always just felt a little foolish to me talking on the moon. Yeah, here we are. I

00:00:43.220 don't know. In 1969, we had basically nothing technologically. And then we sort of just stopped

00:00:47.360 going after a period of years during which our government really wanted to distract us from

00:00:52.800 some stuff that they were doing overseas. I don't know. I'm not a big believer in it.

00:00:57.120 I'm not saying you're required to stop believing in it, but I am going to require you to think

00:01:01.300 because my next guest knows a little bit something, a little bit of something about how angry people

00:01:06.560 get on this topic because he himself was punched in the face by Buzz Aldrin when he walked up to him

00:01:13.880 and asked him if he would put his hand in the Bible and swear that he went to the moon. He got socked

00:01:18.940 pretty hard. His name is Bart Sibbrell. We are so excited to have him joining us today. Welcome to

00:01:24.360 Candace.

00:01:39.540 You know, Bart, I feel like the first thing that we have to ask you since we've got you on the

00:01:43.820 Candace podcast is what is it's like to be punched in the face by an astronaut?

00:01:50.900 Well, he's got really good reflexes. I didn't see it coming. He's got a good punch. It knocked

00:01:55.680 me back and it gave me a toothache for about three years. No way.

00:02:01.660 Yes. And then someone said, you know, why didn't you sue him? And I thought, you know, to be quite

00:02:07.600 honest, I thought about it. But it's amazing how everything is in the ancient text, which says,

00:02:15.140 if someone strikes you on one cheek, offer them the other one. I thought, rats.

00:02:21.100 So you absolutely must take my audience to the lead up of this moment. Like the person,

00:02:27.040 everyone's heard the story, like someone who went up to Buzz Aldrin with a Bible and said,

00:02:31.520 put your hand in the Bible. Did you guys go to the moon? And instead of getting an answer,

00:02:36.640 he got punched in the face, which I feel like if I went to the moon, I would just be like,

00:02:40.320 yes, we did. And put my hand in the Bible. I don't think I would get violent.

00:02:43.660 So what is your side of the story?

00:02:46.840 Well, we had first produced a funny thing happened on the way to the moon. This is a million dollar

00:02:52.200 film financed by a board member of an aerospace company who built rockets for NASA, who knows that

00:02:59.800 the moon landings are fake, thought it was his patriotic duty to expose it. He gave us a million

00:03:05.420 dollars to produce a funny thing happened on the way to the moon. I grew up as the biggest fan of

00:03:11.520 the moon landings. I mean, fan boy, I had a shrine of Apollo 11 pictures in my bedroom. I was four years

00:03:19.140 old at the time, and they followed me wherever I went. But I had an open mind. And I met a guy who

00:03:26.040 worked at NASA who said it never happened. I'm thinking, oh, I never thought about that. And when

00:03:30.040 I became a filmmaker whose job is to make fake scenes look real, I'm like, these are definitely

00:03:36.180 shot with electrical lighting. It's pretty easy to prove that that's the case. And so I was producing

00:03:43.320 the film under the theory it might be true that they faked it. And the film took seven years to

00:03:50.340 produce. It's a 45 minute film. It's on the homepage of sabrell.com. You can see it for free.

00:03:55.800 And halfway into this project, mind you, I'm meticulous. I spent 4,000 hours editing a 45

00:04:03.760 minute film. That's 40 hours a week for two years just to edit the movie. Halfway into the film,

00:04:09.520 you see, the way I looked at it, Candace, is if they fake the moon landing, they're more likely to

00:04:14.500 have made a mistake the first time they faked it. So I asked NASA as a journalist, I'm doing a

00:04:19.820 documentary about the moon landings, which was true. And send me everything you got just from the

00:04:26.500 first moon mission, figuring if they made a mistake, they're more likely to have made it the first time

00:04:33.000 because they'd never faked it before. So I meticulously went through everything and there's

00:04:37.400 very little footage. There's only like 20 pictures of an astronaut on the moon in the first mission.

00:04:42.780 And you get the same footage over and over again. Well, my source at NASA believes a whistleblower

00:04:47.760 sent me a tape. I pop it in. It says, do not show to the public on the screen.

00:04:53.020 And they're faking being halfway to the moon, dated two days into the flight. All the astronauts are

00:04:59.860 on camera and they're using a one foot model that to make it look like the earth's floating in space.

00:05:06.080 And they're looking back at it from a distance. They never left earth orbit. And what a surprise,

00:05:11.000 55 years later, they still cannot leave earth orbit. That's why there's mannequins orbiting the moon.

00:05:16.620 And so I'm like, oh my gosh, they really did fake the moon landing. How sad is that?

00:05:24.500 Hello, Apollo 11. Houston Goldstone says that the TV looks great. Over.

00:05:35.340 Okay, so what we're seeing here on the right hand side is allegedly the earth floating in space.

00:05:46.120 But in fact, that is a circular window of the spacecraft. You can kind of see the thickness

00:05:51.320 there at the bottom. And they moved the camera at the back of the spacecraft and they turned out

00:05:56.580 all the lights. And you're seeing part of the earth outside of a circular window. But it looks like the

00:06:02.880 earth floating in space from a distance. And this is the footage that we uncovered that proves that

00:06:09.180 they never left earth orbit because there it is right out the window. And they're faking being

00:06:13.980 halfway to the moon. They allegedly have the lens at the window's glass to shoot the tiny earth far

00:06:20.900 away. But when we show the final clip, you'll see that the cameras at the back of the spacecraft,

00:06:26.080 all these segments we got were unedited. They only showed about 10 seconds of this to the public.

00:06:31.960 That's why it says do not show to the public at the beginning of this unedited reel. Now what you just

00:06:37.540 heard, and you can play it again is to talk, is because they're in earth orbit only a couple of

00:06:42.580 hundred miles of the earth, they would have an instantaneous conversation with NASA. Like I might

00:06:49.400 say, hello, how are you? They would say, I'm doing fine. How are you? I'm doing okay. But they're supposed

00:06:54.720 to be halfway to the moon or 136,000 miles away. So what they did is they faked a four second radio delay

00:07:03.560 as if it took two seconds to go out to them and two seconds for the radio transmission to come

00:07:09.060 back. So what you hear, if you want to play it again, is you hear NASA saying the TV picture looks

00:07:15.260 great. There are four seconds of dead air.

00:07:24.020 And now you'll hear the CIA prompting them to speak after the four seconds.

00:07:40.660 So we actually have a third track of hidden audio of the CIA telling them not to speak until four

00:07:46.980 seconds go by to create this fake radio delay. Now, if you go to the next clip, this is where Neil

00:07:54.000 Armstrong lied. And so go ahead and freeze it there. So he just lied. This is the part that's

00:08:09.340 in all the NASA reels. He claims he's halfway to the moon. But what you're seeing is really a

00:08:14.400 circular window of the spacecraft with the camera back. If that were really the earth floating in

00:08:20.760 space, the lens would have to be at the glass, right? But it's actually at the back of the

00:08:25.640 spacecraft, all the lights are off. And you're seeing a circular window in the foreground outside

00:08:31.160 of which is completely filled with the earth and low earth orbit. They even insert a little crescent

00:08:36.700 piece of material into the window to make it look like the Terminator line between night and day.

00:08:42.420 Now, if you go to 3913, and of course, all this is viewable on the homepage of sabrell.com,

00:08:50.380 you'll see the outtake. Go ahead and play this. And this is the part that really, really gets you.

00:08:55.620 You can dim down the audio if you want. So basically, this is the outtake. We have the

00:09:01.300 unedited reel. That's why it said don't show to the public at the beginning. And here they are

00:09:05.860 removing part of the transparency in front of the window and part of the special effect.

00:09:10.280 That's a work light inside of the spacecraft. And then the lights come up and you see that

00:09:15.720 they're in earth orbit all the time. And we're using a one foot model of the earth using the

00:09:22.020 circular window to fake being halfway to the moon. So you see, that was the circular window the entire

00:09:28.740 time. So you can play that again. It's really remarkable. And so we have them faking being halfway

00:09:36.220 to the moon. See, he just claimed a moment ago that this was 130,000 miles out. But we have the

00:09:42.200 unedited reel. It's very convincing. But that's the window. That's Michael Collins moving stuff away

00:09:48.020 from in front of the window to set up for an interior shot. That's a work light. The camera

00:09:52.600 has been at the back of the spacecraft the entire time. And then they open up the iris. And you can see

00:09:58.100 the very bright and near earth out the window. But it's dated two days into the flight where they're

00:10:03.800 supposed to be halfway to the moon. They showed that other clip of him claiming they were 130,000

00:10:10.200 miles out, but they're still in earth orbit. And Candace, you said, wow, that's exactly what I said.

00:10:16.520 And that's exactly what an audience, when I've shown this to many people in theaters, they gasp.

00:10:22.520 They say, wow, because that's them faking being halfway to the moon. So if they really went to the

00:10:29.820 moon, why would they be faking any of it? So after the first film came out, which has that footage in

00:10:35.320 it, even my critics agree that that is them faking being halfway to the moon, which they would never

00:10:41.500 have to do if they could really go halfway to the moon, right? So I had this idea, maybe from

00:10:46.660 childhood TV programs, you know, take an oath in court or whatever. Why not just track down the

00:10:53.000 astronauts and ask them to swear on a Bible, whether they walked on the moon or not.

00:10:57.080 And the second film, which is also on the homepage of sabrell.com, called Astronauts Gone Wild,

00:11:04.620 one astronaut, yeah, one astronaut kicked me, one astronaut threatens to punch me, one astronaut

00:11:11.440 threatens to shoot me. And we even left a hot microphone accidentally in an astronaut's house

00:11:17.640 after he assaulted me. And the camera guy, so, you know, disoriented, he forgets to hit stop

00:11:23.240 recording. So while the astronaut and his son are in their house with the door closed,

00:11:29.080 we're recording the audio by wireless microphone in the backseat of the rental car in the driveway.

00:11:35.980 And they say, word for word, do you want to call the CIA and have them whacked?

00:11:42.200 Want to call the CIA? Have them whacked?

00:11:44.440 Oh my goodness! That is crazy!

00:11:53.260 Well, like I said, if I'm some silly person who thinks the moon landings are fake and they really

00:11:57.320 went, why would the CIA be involved? But I have proof that they didn't go. Classified footage and

00:12:01.900 an eyewitness. That's why the CIA is involved. And I go into my book, me being literally kidnapped at

00:12:08.340 the back door of CNN, trying to get somebody the tape, by the government, drugging me with truth

00:12:13.960 serum, vomiting, telling them everything they wanted to know, escaping, peeing in a cup, taking

00:12:20.160 it to a lab, and the lab was broken into and my urine sample was stolen. All that is in the book.

00:12:25.380 So you're saying that there is more between the CIA and you, aside from them saying,

00:12:30.120 should I have that guy whacked after Buzz Aldrin punched you in the face?

00:12:33.320 Yeah, a lot more. I never went into it during interviews prior to the book coming out. But

00:12:39.680 basically, when I found the secret footage that night, I was followed from church. I ended up

00:12:47.040 looping around and following the person following me, pulled up alongside of them to get a look at

00:12:51.620 them. And apparently they zapped my car, all the electricity, everything just shut off automatically.

00:12:57.040 And I coasted to a stop out in the middle of the highway at 9, 10 o'clock at night. I'm literally

00:13:02.480 being chased on foot by two to four people. I hail a cab who takes me to a safe house where I have a

00:13:09.340 copy of the tape. I get it to the back door of CNN, where I'm surrounded by government agents who

00:13:15.060 take the tape. They drug me with what I presume is truth serum to the point of vomiting. They have a

00:13:21.480 clipboard ready. They ask me all these questions like, where's the original and blah, blah, blah.

00:13:25.140 I escape their custody. I make my way back to Nashville. I pee in a cup. I give it to a friend

00:13:32.060 to put in his name in the lab, trying to outwit the CIA. And days later, when we meet to get the

00:13:39.360 lab result, because I told the NBC News director, I'm going to get him. I got proof I got this exotic

00:13:43.880 drug in me. You know what I mean? That they illegally injected me with. And so he says, well, there was a

00:13:50.560 problem at the lab. And I'm like, well, what problem? He says, well, funny thing. They had a

00:13:54.940 break-in over the weekend. I'm like, yeah, so what? He says, well, funny thing. The only thing stolen

00:13:59.800 was your urine sample. And the people at the lab are like, we don't know who you are, but take your

00:14:04.900 business elsewhere. And so all of these bizarre escapades, I go into detail in a chapter called

00:14:11.380 A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to CNN, and A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Church. I go into

00:14:16.440 great detail that I never did before, because it's already a hard pill to swallow that, you know, they

00:14:23.200 faked the moon landing, but they did. And seeing how this is the final statement from me for the

00:14:28.280 historical record until the truth comes out, then I thought, well, why not put it all in the book? And so

00:14:35.840 it goes into great detail, my harassment by the government, the death threat on audio, the literally,

00:14:42.400 you know, being followed from church, chased on foot, you know, abducted illegally at the back door

00:14:49.960 of CNN, drugged, proof that I was drugged, being broken into in a lab. You can imagine a lab.

00:14:57.000 They know they had a break-in, and then they checked the inventory, no computers, no documents,

00:15:01.840 but one urine sample stolen from Bart Sabrell, you know, that had the truth serum in it that I was going

00:15:08.220 to prove that they had drugged me, because only the CIA would have this particular type of drug.

00:15:12.660 Right. And interestingly enough, I've been telling my viewers to read the book Chaos, and it goes into

00:15:18.980 depth about Dr. Jolly West and the chase to create a truth serum, which they admitted they were

00:15:25.640 successful in creating a truth serum. I told them everything they wanted to know, and don't even

00:15:29.860 remember question beyond question three. And so maybe the drug itself is a secret, you know, and they

00:15:35.680 didn't want that getting out. I don't know. Now, if they really went to the moon, and I'm some silly

00:15:40.740 person who thinks it was shot at Cannon Air Force Base, which we have proof of, then why would the

00:15:45.600 CIA be involved? And all that, Candace, to answer your question, if I walked on the moon, and some

00:15:51.660 person thought otherwise, I would find that hysterically funny. A sword with no point causes

00:15:57.720 no injury. It would be like throwing a feather at him. But what it was like, was like walking up to

00:16:03.720 him in front of his wife and saying, Oh, your mistress says hello. You see, he's angry because

00:16:08.940 it's truthful. And that's what you see in astronauts gone wild.

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00:17:11.840 that's preborn.com slash Candace. I actually want to talk about anger and overreaction being an

00:17:18.420 indicator that a lie is being told because what's really funny is my experience is I just kind of

00:17:22.600 never, I always thought it just seemed really fake and weird. And obviously I'm born in 1989,

00:17:26.880 which is 20 years after the fact. We learn about it really as a blip

00:17:29.580 in school. It's, it's, it feels at least when you're first learning about it, like very

00:17:33.900 inconsequential, like a, Oh, what a fun conspiracy theory. And one day I tweeted,

00:17:38.000 what's one conspiracy theory that gets you? And I said, for me, it's the moon landing. I just really

00:17:42.420 don't think it happened. Share, you know, some ones that you think that are funny. And the

00:17:46.640 overreaction to that tweet, and you, you brought up Bill Maher, he starts getting angry about like

00:17:52.000 the media got angry. Like how dare you question the moon landings? And I went, okay, your reaction to

00:17:56.400 this is now making me believe that there's something there. Because if we went to the moon

00:17:59.740 and someone said, I don't believe once the moon, who cares? If I say, which I did, I went to Dollywood

00:18:04.140 the other weekend with my kids and you say, Candace, I don't believe you. I'd be like, okay.

00:18:10.180 I went, I don't know what else to say. I don't really, I don't really, it's not really care.

00:18:13.120 I don't care if you don't believe me or you don't believe me. I actually went. And if you said,

00:18:16.520 Candace, put your hand in the Bible and swear that you went to Dollywood with your kids.

00:18:20.100 I'd be like, this is weird, but okay. I swear I went to Dollywood with my kids.

00:18:25.420 I wouldn't punch you in the face. I wouldn't get angry. And so this is where I think the media

00:18:29.520 really miscalculates because they get so rabid and so angry and defensive of things

00:18:34.580 that aren't actually real. And so this led me to go, actually, let me look further

00:18:38.700 into the moon landing. And when I looked into it, I went, oh, this is, this just absolutely

00:18:43.380 did not happen. So I had not realized that you had, had gotten access because there was just this

00:18:50.520 NASA whistleblower who was like, Hey man, we didn't go here. And it's interesting to see

00:18:55.600 how the astronauts are not really able after they go to answer basic questions about what they

00:19:01.820 experienced out. You're in outer space. You're the first person to walk the moon. And they seem so

00:19:06.480 uncomfortable in interviews. Yeah. There's a famous quote. It says the likelihood of one individual

00:19:13.040 being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity to which others are trying to prove

00:19:19.000 him wrong. The fact that it gets this juvenile reaction as if I'm blaspheming their God is proof

00:19:27.620 that we're correct, believe it or not. Because if they really went, why would they care? You type in

00:19:33.380 and Google moon landing fraud. You don't get moon landing fraud. You get a thousand videos to reassure

00:19:39.260 people that the moon landings are real. Well, why do they need to reassure us? I mean, if I went

00:19:45.540 around saying Mickey Mouse was the first president of the United States, do you think there would be

00:19:50.020 a thousand videos to reassure people that it was George Washington? They have to prop it up because

00:19:55.300 it's made of straw. They didn't go. I was the biggest fan of it. And if I can admit reluctantly

00:20:02.020 that they faked it and people don't realize what this means, it's so profound. I mean,

00:20:07.360 imagine this, Candace. Imagine they really did go to the moon and come back. Boy, that was a close

00:20:11.920 one. Or they lied about it to the whole world. They embezzled an equivalent of $250 billion.

00:20:19.940 They printed it on coins, on stamps, in the encyclopedia, and gave them medals of honor for

00:20:26.360 being such good liars. And according to people I've interviewed, relatives of dead astronauts who were

00:20:33.120 murdered by the CIA, their opinion, not mine, if that's true, which sadly it is, that is so much

00:20:41.080 more profound than if they actually went. So what we have is one of the greatest events in human history

00:20:46.880 is the shaking of the moon landing by the most powerful nation on earth. And people don't realize

00:20:54.280 how easy it was to fake. It's like whoever killed JFK, he's still dead. It's a tragedy. Whoever did 9-11,

00:21:02.060 they're still dead. It's a tragedy. You can change the hats on who did it and why. This is different.

00:21:07.540 This is a positive lie. You see? And I come along wanting to take away that candy and give them the

00:21:15.060 reality of manure, and they don't want it. I got an email just a few days ago from someone who knew

00:21:21.280 Carl Sagan. And he said that Carl Sagan privately knew that the moon landings were fake. But he wanted to

00:21:30.560 be politically correct. So before he died, he wrote this about the moon landing fraud indirectly.

00:21:39.040 Carl Sagan said,

00:21:40.020 One of the saddest lessons of history is this. If we've been bamboozled or lied to long enough,

00:21:47.900 we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth.

00:21:55.860 The bamboozle, the lie has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves,

00:22:04.280 that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.

00:22:12.580 And then, I don't know you that well at all, if you'll forgive me, but I get the impression you

00:22:19.180 believe in God. Right? Okay. So what we have at the beginning of a funny thing happened on the way

00:22:27.140 to the moon, we show the Tower of Babel, which according to Genesis 6 was built to show off.

00:22:34.380 We're going to make a name for ourselves. It was never finished. The Messiah said,

00:22:39.320 if you start a tower and don't finish it, you're a fool to the whole world. Then,

00:22:44.360 the biggest machine ever built in the technological age, the Titanic, put in print the ship that God

00:22:52.980 himself could not sink. Tower of Babel never finished. Titanic never made one voyage. And then

00:23:00.560 Richard Nixon, who knew they were not on the moon, said, putting a man on the moon is second in

00:23:07.160 greatness only to God making the universe. You see that? This is a blasphemous event. How ironic

00:23:16.240 in a fallen world that the most powerful nation on earth ends up being one of the most corrupt

00:23:22.440 and the greatest accomplishment is a complete fraud. The most published female writer in the world,

00:23:29.420 Ellen White, about the Tower of Babel said the following, that if the truth comes out about the

00:23:35.000 moon landing, and it might, could be true about that as well. She said the monument to their pride

00:23:40.940 became a memorial to their folly. Imagine if the truth comes out. And we have an eyewitness,

00:23:47.600 which we can talk about, who saw them film the fake moon landing at Cannon Air Force Base and

00:23:52.780 confessed so as he was dying. Wow. I definitely do want to talk about that. And there's a lot of

00:23:58.980 things that you said there, and I want to go over them slowly. So one of the things that I stumbled

00:24:02.600 across quite accidentally, actually, I was looking into Aleister Crowley and, you know, sort of this

00:24:07.900 satanic cult and their belief that they could conquer the seven nations. He had this vision

00:24:13.000 that he could conquer the seven nations and be the beast after he was reading revelations in the Bible.

00:24:20.340 And, you know, he begins this, this cult is the only way to describe it. And Jack Parsons,

00:24:25.500 who was the founder of the Apollo program, people don't know this, that he was a part of this sex

00:24:32.040 cult. And that in order to establish the Apollo program, this is on Wikipedia, this is, we are

00:24:36.300 not in conspiracy land right now. We covered this on my show, the origins of NASA. It's so sinister.

00:24:40.880 It's so satanic. And one of the things that they believed was that they could summon demons via

00:24:45.180 these sex rituals that they were having out in California. I believe in Devil's Canyon, like they

00:24:49.660 believed that he could summon devils. And he said that he did summon a devil and that that program was

00:24:55.820 successful and that they were going to, according to Jack Parsons, that they were going to create via

00:25:04.260 sex magic, a moon baby, a moon child. This is again, available on Wikipedia, Jack Parsons,

00:25:10.800 you know, and the religion that they established, which was called Thelema. And then he took it and

00:25:16.340 took it even further. And he was considered the protege of Aleister Crowley. And I go, okay,

00:25:20.740 so you're telling me the guy who began the Apollo program believed that he had a vision that was

00:25:27.760 given to him by the devil, that he could produce a moon child. And then we're told, but he never got

00:25:34.560 this Virgin Mary, this like satanic Virgin Mary, this woman with red hair that came and stumbled upon

00:25:39.400 the sex ritual house, that he never got her pregnant or that she got pregnant and she got a

00:25:43.120 miscarriage. This is again, all available on Wikipedia. It's very scary to learn about Jack Parsons.

00:25:46.860 And I'm going, so I'm supposed to trust this person with having established this program and

00:25:52.760 think that this program is entirely legitimate. And their interest, their expressed interest

00:25:57.060 was in conquering the nations, right? And conquering the nations. My issue that I came up against when

00:26:02.340 I was in my own mind going, I don't believe the moon landing happened. I've read this piece. It

00:26:05.640 seems all ridiculous. The problem is I wasn't alive during that time. So you need somebody to walk you

00:26:09.300 through how ridiculous it really was, was I was going, but why? Like, why would they do this? And like you

00:26:15.200 said, the implications would be profound. And the answer to that came to me actually, when I was

00:26:19.320 speaking to a guy about Ashton Forbes, about MH370 and the idea of government hiding technology,

00:26:24.560 he said something along the lines of if the base assumptions are wrong, right? If you are telling

00:26:30.380 everybody that, you know, the earth's a globe, or you're telling everybody that E equals MC square,

00:26:35.880 whatever the base assumption is that you establish, if everyone's working off of that and saying,

00:26:39.740 well, this is now concrete, this is consensus, this is a fact, then you're actually putting a ceiling

00:26:46.060 on science, right? So if you're the makers of the world and you're powerful and you're Freemasons,

00:26:50.640 which many of these people were, and you're telling everybody that, you know, the earth looks this way,

00:26:55.620 or this is how the atmosphere works, or this is what it looks like when you're six, 250,000 miles away

00:27:01.280 from the earth's surface, and everybody's working off of that model, you're actually keeping the

00:27:06.400 entire population dumber than you. And I went, now that's really fascinating, because I do believe

00:27:11.940 that they told this lie, and their anger in maintaining this lie signals to me that the lie

00:27:17.560 has to do with control. Like, that's the only reason you would be that angry. You're executing some sort

00:27:21.920 of control over humanity via this lie. Well, yes. I find it hard to believe the evil things that I hear

00:27:31.060 take place in the world, you know, from child molestation, or murder, or genocide. I find it hard to believe,

00:27:36.780 but the longer I live, the more wicked the world really is. The world has been conquered by evil people

00:27:42.940 thousands of years ago. When the Messiah was being tempted by Lucifer, the fallen angel, he said if the

00:27:50.300 Messiah would worship Lucifer, that he'd give him all the kingdoms of the world because they belong to him,

00:27:55.660 and he can give them to whoever he wants. That's why all of our world leaders are liars. What is mankind's

00:28:01.480 greatest accomplishment? Putting a man on the moon. It's a lie. It's very simple to prove. I have, you know,

00:28:07.820 four concrete proofs that individually would prove by themselves we didn't go to the moon. Let's start with

00:28:14.440 the simplest one, which is today, with 55 years better technology, the farthest that NASA can send an astronaut

00:28:24.560 into space is one thousandth the distance to the moon. So what they're claiming is that back with

00:28:33.240 1960s technology, before microwave ovens, before cell phones, when all of NASA computers combined

00:28:40.260 had one millionth the computing power of a cell phone, they sent astronauts ahead of schedule on the

00:28:47.840 first attempt one thousand times farther than they can send of today with five decades better technology.

00:28:55.120 So what they're actually claiming is that for the first time in recorded history, technology was

00:29:00.940 greater in the past than in the future. Lindbergh flew across the Atlantic in 1927. Imagine 55 years

00:29:08.480 later, no one can fly across the Atlantic. Or they say it's too expensive. It's just too expensive,

00:29:13.840 is what they say. Well, that's just not the case. The government doesn't care about expenses at all.

00:29:17.860 Otherwise, they wouldn't be sending all that money, you know, on wars and everything. So imagine 55 years

00:29:23.480 after Lindbergh flew across the Atlantic, not only can no one fly across the Atlantic, but they can only

00:29:29.460 fly one thousandth as far. It's like, well, what's going on here? You see, it's impossible to have

00:29:35.380 greater technology in the past and in the future. When the first atomic bomb was blown up, 10 years later,

00:29:41.420 atomic bombs were one thousand times more powerful. So if they could go to the moon on the first attempt

00:29:48.860 with one millionth of computing power of a cell phone, they would have been on Mars 10 years later, we'd be in

00:29:53.800 another solar system by now, and there'd be bases all over the moon like there are at the South Pole, right?

00:29:59.660 100 mile per hour winds, 100 degrees below zero, and yet there are bases there because it can be done,

00:30:04.820 maybe barely. So if it could be done, there would be bases there. In fact, just to reach the South Pole

00:30:10.100 took six attempts. It killed five crews first. Finally, the sixth time they made it to the South

00:30:16.800 Pole, and yet somehow they did it on the first attempt. They can drive cars and play golf on the

00:30:22.760 moon. In an untested aircraft, by the way, in an untested aircraft. And at 55 years later, the best

00:30:29.440 they can do is have mannequins orbit the moon. Now, my book, Moon Man, goes into all this detail that's

00:30:36.540 not, and a funny thing happened on the way to the moon, because I had sources. I have a millionaire

00:30:41.380 backing me, okay? I interviewed the widow and the son of the man who was going to be the first man to

00:30:50.260 walk on the moon. He was beloved by the public and the media. And according to his widow, who I

00:30:55.720 interviewed for four hours, and according to his son, who's a 747 pilot, who I interviewed for three

00:31:02.120 hours, he was murdered by the CIA because he would not cooperate with fraud in the Apollo program.

00:31:10.160 That's correct. Can we slow that story down? For people that don't know about Grisham, can you

00:31:14.100 explain what was supposed to happen? Because a lot of people that were supposed to go to the moon

00:31:18.280 ended up dead in very mysterious circumstances. People that were supposed to testify about the

00:31:22.180 death ended up dead in mysterious circumstances. So let's slow that down for my listeners in case

00:31:26.220 this is the first time they've ever even considered that the moon landing didn't happen.

00:31:29.780 Yeah. So basically, Gus Grissom was the most beloved astronaut because he had an accident where

00:31:37.820 his space capsule sank to the bottom of the ocean. And he confessed at the press conference, he had

00:31:42.980 all of these rolls of nickels in his pocket to give to his son, to give to his schoolmates to say this

00:31:47.900 nickel has been in outer space. And when he started sinking with that extra weight, he said,

00:31:52.540 maybe that wasn't such a brilliant idea. The media laughed. And then someone asked him,

00:31:57.520 were you afraid? And he said, of course, I was afraid. And everyone said, this guy's real. They said

00:32:04.320 he's going to be the first man to walk on the moon. He was preparing congressional reports and giving

00:32:09.780 them to senators that were taken from his home by the CIA before they even informed his widow that he

00:32:15.920 was dead. On January 26, 1967, he came home and told his wife the following, who told me,

00:32:22.660 Han, for some strange reason, the CIA is all over the launch pad today. I've never seen the CIA here

00:32:30.600 in three years. Why did they show up today to inspect the equipment? The next day he's dead from

00:32:36.180 faulty equipment. Days earlier, he held a press conference without permission. And he took a bunch

00:32:42.780 of reporters up to the top of the rocket where he has fixed a lemon the size of a grapefruit to the top

00:32:48.420 of the rocket, calling it publicly a piece of junk. In fact, seconds before he burned alive,

00:32:54.880 murdered by the CIA, his widow's opinion, not mine, they couldn't even get a wired intercom to work

00:33:01.060 between two buildings. He says, how are we going to go to the moon? He says, they're not fixing anything

00:33:05.160 because they knew they were going to fake it and hadn't told the astronauts yet. It was faked a year

00:33:10.260 later. So here's the point. Our country was formed, right? Not by the constitution,

00:33:16.940 by the declaration of independence against the tyranny of King George, right? Because he was an

00:33:23.380 obstacle to the pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness. What's the first one? Life. The federal

00:33:31.860 government is murdering their own people. Does anybody care? It'd be one thing if they faked the

00:33:39.740 moon landing and didn't kill anybody. But that's not the case. You see, they're so afraid for the truth

00:33:46.660 about this to come out. I showed two NBC news directors, the video that you can see on the

00:33:52.260 homepage of sabrell.com of them faking being halfway to the moon with a one foot model. The thing that

00:33:57.560 convinced me and my critics, they're faking part of the mission, which they would never have to do if

00:34:02.460 they really went. One of them refused to broadcast it. He said, this will cause a civil war. I'm not

00:34:09.380 going to go down in history as demand it caused a civil war. And the other one, 10 years later,

00:34:14.320 agreed to broadcast it, flew me to New York, put me up in the Waldorf Astoria. They said, we're going to

00:34:19.160 break the story nationwide. They get a call from the federal government telling them, don't embarrass

00:34:23.440 us, cancel the broadcast. And they did. All these podcasters who claim that they're anti-deep state

00:34:30.180 are defending the moon landing. They're defending people who are accessory to murders, right? A great

00:34:38.280 broadcaster, Glenn Beck, who's sincere, but sincerely wrong, has me on for 15 minutes in audio and has

00:34:44.880 on Charles Duke and hour on and video, an Apollo astronaut who has the audacity to claim to be a

00:34:51.760 Christian, right? Lying, assuming that people are going to believe him if he calls himself a Christian.

00:34:58.020 When he, because of his participation in the moon landing fraud, many people were killed.

00:35:02.720 So my eyewitness was Cyrus Eugene Akers. He was the chief of security at Cannon Air Force Base.

00:35:10.260 And as he was dying, fearing God's judgment. And as we know, if we renounce our sin and confess,

00:35:17.700 we're forgiven. The first thing out of his mouth, chief of security at Cannon Air Force Base.

00:35:23.360 He says, I'm a murderer. I killed somebody. His son says, who? He says, a coworker at Cannon Air Force

00:35:30.820 Base. His son brings in the military police to investigate, to give the family closure. Maybe

00:35:36.560 they just dumped his body somewhere, said he disappeared. Then they asked him, why? Why did

00:35:41.440 you kill him? He said to Cabra, landing fraud. We both eyewitnessed it in 1968 at Cannon Air Force

00:35:48.780 Base. President Johnson was there the first of three days of filming. My friend thought it was morally

00:35:53.860 wrong. I killed him to keep it a secret. Please forgive me. I have outlined the best four minutes of

00:36:00.780 it. It's a four minute clip. It's clip nine called the Deathbed Confession. It's the son

00:36:05.700 describing his father, you know, story that he gave to him on his deathbed. And he goes into great

00:36:14.080 detail about Cannon Air Force Base, how they spent weeks building the lunar set, how they did it with

00:36:20.760 pulverized concrete, the security precaution, the list of 15 people. He were there, how he lived right

00:36:27.340 across from Cannon Air Force Base, how his dad abhorred lying. And so, you know, his dad, why would

00:36:35.720 he make this up as he's dying? I didn't put in the book, but I discussed during interviews about the

00:36:41.920 homicide because the son was still alive and didn't want to be pestered by the media. He was already

00:36:46.780 pestered. The White House press secretary, the United States Senate Intelligence Committee, and the FBI

00:36:53.720 were involved with me in giving this guy whistleblower protection. That's how serious this was. People

00:36:59.540 showed up at this guy's house in the video clip and threatened to kill him and his family if he ever

00:37:04.900 spoke to me again about his father participating in the fake moon landing. So we got as honorable people

00:37:12.760 as we could in the government protecting this guy. So this is his testimony, four minutes of it with the

00:37:18.560 time code there that, you know, to me, it's just one more, you know, piece of evidence, but everybody

00:37:23.680 else are like, wow, you know, and they see it and, you know, it's that reaction. That's what I saw. When

00:37:30.620 you saw the window shot, you're like, oh my gosh. And that's with me. I'm like, oh my gosh, they really

00:37:37.580 did fake the moon landing. I called up Bill Casey, my source at NASA immediately. And we had already

00:37:45.080 people, we were already on scrambled telephones. We have a millionaire backing us. And our phone call

00:37:51.340 is interrupted. And I'm like, you know, I've got this proof. You got to, you know, don't sleep where

00:37:56.720 you slept last night. Then I go to church to get, you know, feedback from the elders. What do I do?

00:38:01.820 They say, drive like a bat out of hell to CNN. On the way to CNN, I'm followed. My car disabled. I have

00:38:08.440 to take a cab and then I'm illegally arrested and drugged. All that happened the day I found the tape.

00:38:14.140 Well, let's, let's get into it. Let's, let's actually watch that clip of his testimony.

00:38:19.680 I've never known my dad to lie. To get caught lying was worse than whatever it was you did to

00:38:27.380 begin with. I remember going to school with long sleeve shirts on to hide the purple wells.

00:38:33.400 You did not lie in our house. That's for sure. Dad had a real,

00:38:38.080 really bad attitude towards lying. Excuse me again.

00:38:41.340 Okay. Anyway, this is, this is the story that my dad told me on his deathbed. Project

00:38:51.360 Slam Dunk was the name of, of this. President Johnson in 1968. Okay. In Cannon Air Force Base

00:39:03.180 in 1968, he said by that time, by the time he got there, that there was already two large

00:39:09.440 hangars that were connected. There was hundreds of dump trucks that came in and dumped sand and

00:39:18.240 uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, and, uh, uh, cement powder was powdered over the top of all that to

00:39:26.580 make it look like a lunar landscape. They had men that fashioned it into a lunar landscape, he said.

00:39:32.200 okay I've never known my dad to lie so this all took me by surprise and you know what's that all

00:39:41.620 about so anyway um he said that in front of the the airplane hangers was pole framing with large

00:39:51.880 canvas tents that was concealing the inside of the staging area inside the staging area

00:39:59.920 on flatbed trucks I was on created the lunar lander that was assembled reassembled back inside

00:40:09.700 the hangers all of the walls were painted flat black and the ceilings as well he was sworn to

00:40:19.000 secrecy by the NSA and they would put him in prison for breaking that oath when dad saw the the moon

00:40:26.680 landing on TV he cried he said he knew that what he had witnessed on TV was exactly what they recorded

00:40:35.920 in that hangar there was no reason for them to go flying around and everything they had detailed

00:40:44.440 high-definition photos of the landing area there was no reason for them to go flying around to a

00:40:51.580 different landing area that almost exhausted their fuel except for drama because everything had gone

00:40:58.180 so smoothly nothing you know so it had to be something anyway that was one of three guards they guarded the

00:41:14.980 uh the inside of the front entrance there was a list of 15 people who could enter no one else was allowed by order of

00:41:22.720 President Johnson and here is that list and I gave it to Bart's eyebrow as well and he checked out a lot of these

00:41:30.700 names and he says he can verify a lot of these people and what they do um and I come across the couple

00:41:39.580 myself anyway President Johnson, Neil Armstrong, Edwin Alden, Werner Von Braun, Robert Emenegger, Gene Krantz, James Webb, Joe Kerwin, Dr. Thomas Payne, Glenn Looney, Dr. Christopher Kraft, Dr. James Van Allen, General Trudeau,

00:42:06.580 Lieutenant Colonel uh Donald Simon and Grant Norrie Wow wow wow wow I mean what is the incentive for

00:42:18.800 someone to put their lives at risk to say that their father told them something on their dying bed

00:42:22.920 you know yeah and he confessed he murdered a co-worker so all these people you know astronauts who are alive

00:42:30.580 you know that not only did they lie about it they contributed to the death the murder of innocent

00:42:37.440 people including the crew of Apollo 1 and that co-worker at Canada Air Force Base Don Barron

00:42:42.140 and who knows who else you know when I got illegally abducted at the back door CNN trying to get this

00:42:48.920 classified footage into a reporter friend there a lawyer who I think wanted to have a CNN address

00:42:56.860 the only way he could afford it was a back alley door well he happened to step out right as I was

00:43:02.880 being illegally arrested I said look I'm a journalist with NBC here are my credentials you see these huge

00:43:08.480 videotapes they're beta cam I have proof they didn't go to the moon I'm being illegally arrested

00:43:13.180 and of course the government people were freaking out he got out his notepad had that not happened

00:43:17.940 maybe I wouldn't be having this conversation today because maybe they would have gotten rid of me too

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00:44:22.260 is going to be not so surprised because I've been telling them to read this book called chaos the 60s

00:44:27.740 was quite a period they were just murdering people in plain daylight whether it was JFK

00:44:31.280 being shot because he didn't want to go along with a you know war overseas and them placing an LBJ

00:44:36.700 who was just an absolutely evil man an absolutely evil man who in my opinion played a role in the

00:44:43.640 assassination of JFK knew about it without question because he was he knew that he was going to be

00:44:47.540 become the president and so what you're speaking about you know my audience is aware of the MKUltra

00:44:52.200 program they're aware what the CIA is capable of of training people to kill and trying to brainwash

00:44:57.680 people to kill so this doesn't come as a surprise to us the CIA murdering is something that my audience

00:45:02.180 very much understands you know there was another piece of this there was a guy and I'm not sure if he

00:45:08.400 was due to give congressional testimony who got into a bizarre car accident his entire family

00:45:14.300 got killed and I'm just sort of blanking on who that was and how it related to the moon landings

00:45:19.600 Ronald Barron was uh inspector at Rocketdyne I believe and because he did such a good job pointing

00:45:27.480 out this equipment is a piece of junk they fired him Congress said that's the guy we want to report

00:45:32.960 on Apollo when the murders happened they wanted him all the more and they basically killed him on

00:45:39.100 the way to report for the second time for Congress that the moon mission is 10 years or more away from

00:45:45.440 going to the moon I mean they can't go to the moon today they can only go one thousandth the distance

00:45:50.600 so yes they faked it and here's what people need to have an epiphany he was killed in a car accident

00:45:55.280 right him and his wife well it appears that he was killed in a car accident what they probably did is

00:46:00.700 killed him elsewhere they put his car in a train track to destroy the forensic evidence because

00:46:05.160 they didn't have DNA capability at the time but people need to understand this according to Bobby

00:46:10.140 Kennedy Jr. who has more access to the JFK files than Oliver Stone does his opinion which is he's the

00:46:16.980 expert not me so it's my opinion his uncle President Kennedy was absolutely 100 killed by the CIA

00:46:24.040 I guess that's election interference isn't it and then Robert McNamara defense secretary during the

00:46:30.220 Vietnam War said look the public was against entering the war we said we need some sort of

00:46:35.520 Pearl Harbor type of thing well the day before Pearl Harbor 90 percent of Americans were against World

00:46:40.840 War II the day after they wanted to get even so they created a fake attack by the North Vietnamese

00:46:47.560 against an American ship in the Gulf of Tonkin Congress passed a law the Gulf of Tonkin resolution

00:46:53.880 he said on his deathbed it never happened we made it up Congress passed a law shouldn't the CIA get

00:47:01.380 reprimand if not be completely shut down forever right so my point is the federal government is willing

00:47:08.520 to kill their own president they're willing to start a war that needlessly killed 58,220 of their own

00:47:15.300 people so I don't think they're going to have a problem faking a video image on the moon you see and if you want

00:47:23.140 to show people I know I sent to a mark this still picture you can prove now first we prove with logic

00:47:30.260 you can't have a thousand times greater space traveling technology in 1969 than you can today

00:47:35.400 there you go it's over they didn't go if you need more proof than that bring up the picture

00:47:39.960 a still picture I'm a filmmaker like I said my job is to make fake scenes look real and if we show this

00:47:46.400 picture you'll see that in sunlight shadows are parallel go outside on a sunny day two trees two

00:47:53.560 telephone poles two people standing in your front yard or parking lot at lunch and you'll see it's

00:47:58.920 impossible mathematically for the shadows to intersect you see that on the left hand side it's impossible

00:48:04.380 then here's a picture they claim is on the moon that the astronaut shadow is going at 12 o'clock and a

00:48:11.340 shadow from a rock is going at nine o'clock now that's it's a 90 degree difference from objects

00:48:17.840 five feet apart this is all the proof that you need that the moon missions were taken on earth

00:48:23.720 because it's supposed to be 20 times brighter than a desert on earth because there's no atmosphere so

00:48:29.820 you don't need light that that's proof that light is really close and it's an electrical light that

00:48:35.140 means well it's interesting that you speak about this because then you go what is the purpose and you

00:48:39.440 also see this element of money laundering at a time when they wanted to go to war uh money just

00:48:43.160 disappearing because people were believing that we were do having these amazing feats accomplished

00:48:48.040 in outer space and it's interesting to see if and I did this looking into the companies you know who

00:48:53.740 received that deal with the government hey we'll give you all the money you create the space suits

00:48:59.060 hey we'll give you all the money you create the spaceship and they were producing pieces of crap I mean

00:49:04.420 one company literally made like nylon spandex for and then they're like yeah no you'll be good

00:49:09.160 enough no basis in science or anything like you can make our space suits and you can see the images

00:49:12.920 of women sewing the space suits and then you learn about how many degrees it was on the surface of the

00:49:18.200 moon and you're telling me this material was able to endure this many degrees during the daytime and

00:49:23.040 the fahrenheit and then dropping below like what was it like a negative 200 degrees at night time

00:49:28.760 and somehow this fabric worked and the film was not corrupted during that heat film being in the camera

00:49:34.840 and so the more that you look into the moon landing and seriously look at the pieces that have been

00:49:39.820 written by people who are just telling you this just never happened I mean I'm a photographer show me

00:49:44.200 the camera that can survive these temperatures you know and make it all the way back into the atmosphere

00:49:49.340 and then you run it and the pictures are are perfect it it is a bit cartoonish it's almost cartoonish

00:49:56.420 I mean one guy likens it he says it's like um the easter bunny for adults

00:50:00.540 people are holding on to this myth of the moon landing I've been using the Santa Claus analogy

00:50:06.280 and I don't mean to be insulting but the moon landing really is Santa Claus for adults people

00:50:10.940 aren't facing facts no matter what proof you present they deny it they say we win anyway

00:50:16.980 I talked to a college professor Candace at one of the most prestigious universities in America he

00:50:23.360 teaches aerospace I said well what if Apollo astronaut on national tv confessed that the moon landings

00:50:29.720 were fake shot at cannon air force base just like Bart says he said I'd still think he walked on the

00:50:35.480 moon anyway now what happened in November is pretty interesting you know they have the nab convention in

00:50:41.780 Vegas every year for broadcasters tv microphones and whatnot then they have auto conventions where you

00:50:46.900 can drive the car that gets 150 miles a gallon that never hits the market well they had an ai convention

00:50:53.000 in Moscow in November and they had the most advanced ai not available to the public but available for

00:51:01.340 the vips to play around with for three days Vladimir Putin was there it was google's neural network

00:51:08.460 multiple ais hooked up together one team had it write a symphony I think it took about a second and a half

00:51:15.200 another had it write a novel based on these plot points took about a second and a half and then the

00:51:20.460 computer has this deep fake detector that has never been wrong you can feed it a video of Trump or a

00:51:26.360 video of Biden it'll tell you in one second whether it's real or deep fake so someone fed it pictures

00:51:33.280 from the lunar surface from the unmanned Chinese probes from 2014 it said they're real then they fed

00:51:42.200 them Apollo picture after Apollo picture after Apollo picture it said all of them are fake

00:51:48.260 it said the smartest day in the world just said the moon landings are fake and if you try to find the

00:51:56.060 original link believe it or not there's a screenshot of it at sabrell.com it says if you proceed all the

00:52:03.000 data on your computer will be stolen and you'll be associated with child pornography that's how desperate

00:52:08.740 they are to bury this now let me answer the two number one you know defenses of the moon landing well it

00:52:15.300 involved hundreds of thousands of people and that many people can't keep a secret well you got to

00:52:19.600 look a little deeper than that okay the atomic bomb it was the biggest secret of World War II

00:52:25.820 it involved 129,500 people and only eight people knew what they were building imagine Bank of America has

00:52:35.580 500,000 tellers do you think a bank teller and what the CEO know about corruption in the bank are

00:52:41.780 identical they're completely different Eugene Krantz who I've spoken to personally flight director at

00:52:46.800 Apollo said someone in the command center at Houston control can tell no difference whatsoever between a

00:52:56.500 simulation flight and a real flight it's just a bunch of numbers going by on a screen if they can't tell

00:53:02.120 the difference then I certainly can't tell the difference as a four-year-old right and you can't

00:53:07.300 tell the difference 20 years later after the fact you see I actually think it's the opposite I think

00:53:12.520 the bigger the lie the easier it is for people to believe it because they can't comprehend that

00:53:17.640 someone would tell a lie that big so if you're going to tell a lie tell a whopper because they go okay

00:53:21.500 what's that's I mean why would a person tell us that you'd have to be evil to tell a lie this big

00:53:25.640 right and most people want to believe in this fundamental uh goodness they want to believe that

00:53:30.660 the governments are fundamentally good so they wouldn't lie this big so I've always said I mean now we're

00:53:35.080 we're we're in post-covid society so now they realize governments lie big like they go big in

00:53:39.600 order to accomplish what they want to get accomplished and so I think the scales are

00:53:43.040 definitely falling from people's eyes and that no longer seems to be a struggle but what does seem

00:53:47.340 to be a struggle for people is they say oh well we were competing with Russia why would Russia if it

00:53:51.920 was fake the first people that would have said it would have been Russia I have a theory on that but

00:53:56.200 I'd love to hear yours yeah that's exactly what I was about to say Candace because that's the oh that's

00:54:01.200 really the only second argument uh first let me say yeah when I ask people you know why why will

00:54:07.100 you not accept that the moon landings were fake they said the government wouldn't lie about something

00:54:11.480 that important right they already killed their president they already killed 58,000 other

00:54:16.400 soldiers so faking a video image is nothing to them right well here's the fact I have a friend who

00:54:22.260 works in the command center of the Chinese space agency he told me and I have a video of it at

00:54:28.780 sabrell.com somewhere that everybody there knows that the moon missions are fake they're blackmailing

00:54:36.080 NASA for space technology that Congress wrote a law says it's illegal to give China but they're doing

00:54:43.020 it anyway so that they will not expose the moon landing fraud Putin was at the AI conference I have a

00:54:50.420 video on my home page of him being shown the AI just saying the moon missions are fake doesn't look

00:54:57.400 surprised at all in fact he looks scared that the truth will come out you see if I had a picture

00:55:03.040 of a world leader with a prostitute I could upload it to the internet and bring down that person and then

00:55:08.900 it's over or I could blackmail them year after year after year after year and that's what the smarter

00:55:16.300 shrewder Soviets and Chinese are doing another good reason for the truth to come out you see

00:55:24.440 my theory is on that yeah I actually think the Russians and the Americans are coordinating with

00:55:29.540 each other because everyone's forgetting about McCarthyism what was the CIA it they got infiltrated

00:55:34.500 by communists and it was real McCarthyism as we learned in our textbook it's like oh he was just

00:55:38.800 paranoid and there were no commies people were arrested you had a couple that was put to death

00:55:42.640 because the Rosenbergs that were put to death for being commies America got infiltrated by communists

00:55:47.760 and they secured power in the CIA via blackmail by the way and this was something that JFK was aware

00:55:55.120 of he spoke about the corruption of the CIA so that he was going to you know scatter it to the winds

00:55:59.940 and I believe that the communists successfully infiltrated the CIA and if they did that okay if they

00:56:05.960 successfully infiltrated the CIA and this even gets into Jack Parsons because he had a very mysterious

00:56:10.880 death and things that he was saying before his death were quite interesting there would have been

00:56:14.120 very easy coordination between the communists in Russia and the communists that were in our

00:56:19.740 government I think our last fight against communism was actually when JFK was president you know I

00:56:24.760 think that's what we've been fighting since Marxist you know Marxist ideas and Marxist principles

00:56:28.180 we see this coming down the pipeline today well where is it coming from it's coming from our

00:56:31.900 government our government is doing that so I am of the belief that there there may have been some

00:56:37.720 coordination between the two and the space program and they were aware that it was being faked and the

00:56:42.280 whole space race was actually just like communist propaganda and what they were doing was just

00:56:47.460 funneling cash I mean obviously I don't have I'm just telling you like my instinct about it whether

00:56:51.400 more that I look into like the communist infiltration but I think it's plausible now China that that throws

00:56:57.320 me for a loop because I can't see how yeah why China outside of blackmail which blackmail was a huge

00:57:03.520 tool of the CIA it still is a tool of the CIA would be okay with it and you're right it is a very

00:57:08.540 sophisticated system of blackmail amongst our politicians in America and so there's no doubt that they would be

00:57:13.560 doing that abroad as well well we have the federal government breaking their own laws there's a law that

00:57:19.060 says it's illegal to deceive people with television that was done after the quiz show scandal right there's a

00:57:24.940 law not to sell space technology to China but they're doing that anyway there's a you know they're killing

00:57:31.720 their own people it's it's so odd and the the thing is this is what the news director at NBC who refused

00:57:38.880 to broadcast it for fear it would cause a civil war this proof that I found of them faking being halfway

00:57:44.080 to the moon but now I'm thinking maybe he's right I didn't believe him at the time I thought he was

00:57:49.640 overreacting but the the moon landing fraud is even though it probably killed fewer people they say

00:57:56.380 the JFK you know witness list that was knocked off was like 200 people it may have killed fewer

00:58:02.260 people maybe 20 people were killed to keep this a secret but it's would anger the public that's what

00:58:09.640 he says that if the truth of the moon landing fraud comes out it will so anger the public it would be the

00:58:16.320 final thing that would bring it down the corruptive system and yet it's the very thing that some podcasters

00:58:24.740 are afraid to talk about who claim they want to bring down the corruptive system they're not using

00:58:30.080 the number one tool this is the linchpin the finger out of the dike to bring down the deep state because

00:58:38.100 they did fake the moon landing and when people see that candy turn into manure rather than just

00:58:45.780 changing hats on who killed JFK I think maybe the truth will come out maybe we need to pray you know the

00:58:52.960 the rebuke of the Tower of Babel is out there in the open the unfinished tower the rebuke of the

00:58:59.860 Titanic the ship that God himself cannot sink boy they shouldn't have said that one but Nixon's calling

00:59:06.360 the lie second in greatness only to God making the universe this rebuke hasn't come out yet and I

00:59:13.740 pondered spiritually well why is that you know imagine if there were a couple just got married madly in

00:59:20.320 love one goes to a convention gets you know insanely drunk has an affair they come back they either tell

00:59:27.080 them right away and say look I just want to tell you the truth divorce me if you will or they tell them

00:59:32.440 on their 50th anniversary maybe there's a purpose in the delay the longer people believe the lie defend

00:59:42.140 the lie with all of these videos all of these speeches all of these offensives some say if you

00:59:49.840 you know are so foolish to believe the moon landing fraud then it colors everything else that you believe

00:59:56.960 maybe you're wrong about that well maybe they need to direct that toward themselves because they did

01:00:02.580 fake the moon landing so maybe if they're deceived about that maybe other things that they believe

01:00:08.980 are wrong as well and that's the sad and amazing thing it's not a theory that they fake the moon landing

01:00:16.800 we have all this proof that they did it only takes an open mind go to sabrell.com or maybe I could read it

01:00:23.940 there's a quote uh so someone who read my book on the home page and he basically said you know he saw me on

01:00:31.680 Rogan he always believed that the moon missions were real but I laid it out in such simple terms you

01:00:38.160 can't have greater technology in the past and in the future shadows intersecting at 90 degrees hello

01:00:44.020 we showed the clip that everyone agrees is I'm faking being halfway to the moon and we have an eyewitness

01:00:49.920 and we have the AI saying so he says now I find it absurd to believe that the moon landings are real

01:00:57.180 yeah once you actually look into it and I think part of it is people only hear the one side it

01:01:02.040 happened it happened it happens and so it just becomes a part it becomes a founding myth it's

01:01:06.020 just something that you've been has been ingrained in you've been indoctrinated since your youth and

01:01:09.260 you've never actually challenged that because like I said most people go well what would be the point

01:01:12.960 of them doing that and also why would all these nations coordinate again not something that people

01:01:17.560 are questioning now because we realize that we're facing this globalized government they all seem to be

01:01:21.440 coordinating to enslave the people so people are willing to confront that plausibility

01:01:25.360 all of a sudden we're okay like obviously there's a lot of evil stuff going on why do I think it's

01:01:29.080 just starting now clearly it started a long time ago but there are people that are implicated in

01:01:33.460 this uh that are still alive and so I'm going to ask you a couple of questions first and foremost

01:01:37.040 buzz aldrin of interest was a freemason so they get this this guy killed who was supposed to be the

01:01:42.260 first person to walk on the moon in very mysterious fire after the cia visits the campus these are all

01:01:47.920 facts readily available facts people can look up um and then they usher in new people that are

01:01:53.480 gonna walk on the moon for the first time they usher in buzz aldrin he does happen to be a freemason

01:01:58.380 he is still alive and he is still perceived as a hero I struggle to comprehend and maybe it's just

01:02:05.020 my own spirit but you have to be a coward or a truly devilish in individual to accept like awards and

01:02:16.280 applause and allow people to fawn over you for something that you never did and and that just has to

01:02:23.460 live inside you I mean every night you go to bed and you have to know you are a fraud and yet he has

01:02:29.280 done this for years and the only time someone questions him on that puts a bible in his face he

01:02:34.320 loses his temper and punches the guy in the face like how is he doing this well I have a friend who

01:02:41.740 met him at a party in Los Angeles when he was super drunk and he said you know we didn't go

01:02:47.740 and buzz told me we've had private conversations that he believes in god and that's why he didn't

01:02:55.780 swear on the bible and he walked on the moon and he said the other day I think he endorsed somebody

01:03:02.780 for president and then he had the audacity to say god bless america god is not going to bless america

01:03:09.320 when its greatest accomplishment is a lie god's not going to bless america when friends of his

01:03:15.940 gus grissom ed white roger chaffee were murdered because he cooperated if he had protested if buzz

01:03:22.720 had protested maybe those people would still be alive maybe the co-worker cannon air force base

01:03:27.560 would still be alive so the idea that he can say god bless america you know give me a break and you

01:03:34.580 know it was when I called him a coward which is when he punched me he didn't that was what really

01:03:41.160 pierced him but he is of course I have been too I've been a coward I've been a liar I've been a thief

01:03:46.440 I work every day to uh you know do what is right and and to struggle against temptation but he is

01:03:54.060 and the reason he is is because he's afraid to look bad you see the man who died he's gonna get murdered

01:04:03.180 no I think he's afraid to look bad that's it it's a vanity you see he could become my hero if he told

01:04:12.660 the truth on his deathbed just like cyrus eugene acres did he said I'm a murderer I have to set things

01:04:18.740 right he's afraid to look bad he's told all of his entourage and all of his fan he's pulled out paper clips

01:04:24.780 from his closet that he claims were on the moon and sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars at

01:04:29.200 Sutherby's auction which is a fraud right you see he's afraid to look bad that's what you're afraid

01:04:35.500 of you know the interesting thing about I think it's the second chapter to the last chapter revelation

01:04:40.600 it lists a long type list of behaviors that will prevent you from entering eternal life you know

01:04:47.880 immorality and stealing and drunkenness and all this but you know what's first on the list

01:04:52.320 the cowardly why did all these millions of people take medicine for an illness they didn't even have

01:05:00.300 out of fear of death and I know four people who died from that medicine immediately had a reaction

01:05:06.820 and immediately died four people right they were tricked the bible says I think it's hebrews chapter 4

01:05:14.180 that the devil holds mankind in slavery because of their fear of death why are

01:05:22.180 whistleblowers not coming forward because of their fear of death my source who was at cannon air

01:05:29.000 force base his son who I confirmed this information with days later his house was broken into by

01:05:36.340 I guess the CIA he had security cameras they knew his password they took everything about his father no

01:05:43.420 proof and then they came back a couple of days later and threatened to kill him and his family

01:05:48.700 if he ever spoke about his father's participation in the moon landing fraud ever again you see there

01:05:54.780 are all these people in the government who know the truth who could come forward and bring it now but

01:05:59.680 they're afraid to lose their house they're afraid to lose their car they're afraid to lose their

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01:07:07.960 it's actually incredible how many of the speaking of the souvenirs brought back from the moon

01:07:12.300 were determined to be fraudulent I mean I think it was might have been in the Netherlands where they

01:07:15.920 had this rock in the museum and then suddenly they realized wait a minute they went and tested it and

01:07:19.960 this rock was from Arizona and they had it certified from the United States government signed everything

01:07:24.520 and they went we tested this rock and this is from Arizona and the government was like oopsies it's

01:07:29.840 like guys how much more proof do you need I mean even the moon rocks they've been able to determine

01:07:34.100 how many of these were completely fraudulent and you know I think it ended up being like petrified

01:07:38.520 wood that they sent them and just told them it was from the moon which yeah go on Neil Armstrong says

01:07:44.060 he personally picked up this rock put it in his pocket and personally delivered it to the prime

01:07:48.720 minister of the Netherlands they sealed it the curator watched my movie got curious opened it up after

01:07:54.040 midnight secretly and it was petrified wood and so all of this proof it basically I I hate writing

01:08:04.000 non-fiction it's so tedious I spent 15 years running my book two years editing it and it's interactive

01:08:10.960 there are 17 video clips so you can see for free at sabrell.com but if you want the book it's in audio

01:08:16.940 that I read kindle or print and I back up with video clips everything that I'm saying including

01:08:22.900 a NASA employee saying that there's this huge field of radiation that surrounds the earth that most people

01:08:29.900 don't know about it's 30,000 miles thick every manned mission has been well below that except going to

01:08:36.680 the moon and the technology to go through the radiation to the moon and survive has not been invented yet

01:08:44.920 my name is Kelly Smith and I work on navigation and guidance for Orion we are headed 3,600 miles above

01:08:51.880 earth 15 times higher from the planet than the International Space Station

01:08:57.280 as we get further away from earth we'll pass through the Van Allen belts an area of dangerous radiation

01:09:08.380 radiation like this could harm the guidance systems

01:09:14.060 onboard computers or other electronics on Orion naturally we have to pass through this danger zone

01:09:19.600 twice once up and once back

01:09:22.460 we must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space

01:09:29.880 okay so he just said we must solve these radiation challenges before we send people through this

01:09:38.300 region of space that means the radiation challenges have not been solved yet they have to solve the radiation

01:09:45.300 problem before they send people through this region of space and those problems have not been resolved yet

01:09:52.540 so how did the Apollo astronauts go to the moon when I asked this guy for the Geiger counter readings of the unmanned probe they sent it to the radiation

01:10:02.300 they said that was a military secret and I'm like well wait a minute when you sent probes to the sun

01:10:07.840 to find out the temperature of the sun the temperature of the sun is just nature

01:10:11.380 it's not a military secret when they sent probes to Jupiter to find out how much helium is in Jupiter's atmosphere

01:10:17.320 that amount of helium is just nature it's not a military secret so why would the

01:10:21.820 amount of radiation surrounding the earth be a military secret because if they disclosed it it would prove that they didn't go to the moon

01:10:28.760 the guy just said so we must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space

01:10:35.480 right I even saw that they were doing and I'm saying this obviously no we're not recording Mark

01:10:38.700 but that they were doing models in 2005 talking about how they would have to solve to get through the belt

01:10:43.400 and they were on the NASA website they put up the these proposed scenarios where they could put you cinder blocks

01:10:50.840 and this is 2005 it's like what do you mean why are you trying to put together scenarios to get through the Van Allen belt

01:10:55.840 you're supposed to have done this 40 years ago and that was something that was included in the

01:11:00.180 wagging the moon doggy piece and he showed the models from the NASA website which they eventually took down

01:11:05.780 because it kind of debunked that they went there the first time like how are we going to get through the Van Allen belt

01:11:09.800 grappling with that in 2005 doesn't really make sense

01:11:13.200 you should have already have a solve for that maybe because it's God

01:11:16.800 didn't God God speaks about the firmament maybe that's the firm the biblical firmament

01:11:21.280 I don't know you know the earth could be a triangle I don't know I don't care

01:11:26.040 fortunately do I geography a geography exam is not necessary to enter eternal life

01:11:31.320 the issue is not the shape of the earth the issue is the corruption of the United States

01:11:35.720 no I just mean the firmament beyond the earth like not being able to get past

01:11:38.580 I'm saying maybe that is the biblical firmament that you can't get past that radiation

01:11:42.040 that could be it exactly maybe that's the way God set it up that will just stay here

01:11:47.020 you know I don't know but it's scary when you have the most powerful nation on earth

01:11:54.160 faking the greatest accomplishment of mankind and you have sincere people who are sincerely wrong

01:12:00.200 defending the criminals that they abhor because they don't want to give up the glorious moon landing

01:12:07.640 it's pride it's pride people have to be willing to be wrong every chapter of my book has a quote

01:12:14.520 I read read one from Carl Sagan here's one from Men in Black 3 right that shows the Apollo launch

01:12:20.720 it says the bitterest truth is better than the sweetest lie you see we have to have that kind of heart

01:12:29.800 and then Mark Twain says it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled

01:12:36.400 if a college professor is so in love has made a god out of the moon landing

01:12:41.460 he says an Apollo astronaut confessing wouldn't deter his belief he'd still think he walked on the moon

01:12:48.620 anyway that's what we're up against

01:12:49.660 and there's an element of that where the propaganda begins to seep into people's minds

01:12:53.800 we talk about this all the time like me and and my producer and my director

01:12:57.060 and you really see that there's certain things that are really aimed towards little boys and aimed towards little girls

01:13:02.380 and there's no question that like NASA being an astronaut like as well as dinosaurs

01:13:08.040 it's like that is very much pushed on little boys from the time that they're young

01:13:11.340 and I think that men in particular struggle with even considering the plausibility that NASA may not be real

01:13:17.820 that you know the moon landing might not be real

01:13:19.320 and it's interesting because a former colleague of mine we used to always debate this like a friendly debate

01:13:24.320 Matt Walsh and he and really what it came down because I would say Matt

01:13:27.840 you are so willing to recognize all the corruption of government

01:13:30.820 we have these conversations all the time about government lying about COVID

01:13:34.360 I find it so strange that you won't let go of this one and he says something

01:13:37.920 and I think it's it's very telling about where a lot of people are on this

01:13:41.320 he says well if this isn't real then what you're saying is that the greatest feat of mankind didn't actually happen

01:13:48.540 the greatest feat of Americans isn't actually real and what does that say about America

01:13:52.560 and I think it's that question that they're not willing to confront

01:13:56.880 because what it actually means is that yeah

01:14:00.300 uh that greatness is a bit it's fraudulent

01:14:04.700 that's that is the truth like the greatest thing we ever did

01:14:07.060 was trick the world into believing that we did something

01:14:09.360 you know and I do think that is that is hard to wrestle with

01:14:12.580 it can go back the country can go back

01:14:15.440 to a noble country that's admirable

01:14:18.980 but the only way to do that is to confess the sin

01:14:22.480 you can't keep painting over the mold you have to acknowledge it and get rid of it

01:14:27.700 it's odd that that person thinks there'd be a conspiracy

01:14:31.140 to deceive people about an illness going around the world

01:14:35.000 even though the former vice president of a certain pharmaceutical company

01:14:38.080 says there wasn't a reason you know for what they did

01:14:41.520 and that he believes the you know medicine is not good for you

01:14:45.560 and that it may kill people instead

01:14:47.900 he thinks that people are willing to kill millions of people but not fake a video image

01:14:52.640 you see how how it's bonded into people's heart

01:14:56.080 that the moon yeah it is yeah it is

01:14:58.100 if anyone who becomes president of the united states

01:15:02.460 really wants to get the public support behind them

01:15:05.700 they need to from day one

01:15:07.440 acknowledge that the moon missions are fake

01:15:10.280 force buzz aldrin to confess or throw them in jail

01:15:13.180 and acknowledge who shot jfk and acknowledge who didn't from the very beginning

01:15:18.640 start with the moon landing fraud

01:15:20.160 start with the one that's going to get people's attention

01:15:23.060 tell them tell the world they did do it

01:15:26.900 let's set things right

01:15:28.080 you'll have 90 percent or she'll have 90 percent

01:15:31.520 of the people behind them as president

01:15:34.980 if they try to set things right

01:15:37.400 but you have to confess

01:15:38.740 oh you can't keep sweeping it under the rug

01:15:41.440 or you're complicit to that particular crime

01:15:44.320 we have you mentioned before that

01:15:46.940 we have a list of people who were at cannon air force base

01:15:51.180 some of them are still alive

01:15:52.540 i thought i have it here let's just read that list

01:15:55.360 you know president johnson was on the top of the list

01:15:58.520 my source cyrus eugene acres was the chief of security at cannon air force base

01:16:03.400 now every branch of the military has their intelligence special ops division

01:16:07.900 and the you know the army does the navy does

01:16:11.260 and the united states air forces special ops division

01:16:14.300 is a cannon air force base

01:16:15.660 my guy was the chief of security

01:16:17.700 securing the most greatest secret of all time

01:16:21.680 president johnson gave him a list

01:16:24.160 these 15 people are allowed in to observe

01:16:27.340 and no one else

01:16:28.640 president johnson this is probably why he didn't run for re-election

01:16:32.460 when he was eligible

01:16:33.300 because they were going to fake the moon landing

01:16:35.260 and who knew you would get away with that

01:16:36.900 what if he got caught didn't want to have anything to do with that

01:16:39.760 neil armstrong was there but only as an observer

01:16:42.960 they use a double in the tv pictures

01:16:45.640 edwin aldrin jr buzz aldrin was there

01:16:48.360 warner von braun

01:16:49.940 former nazi who according to the state department

01:16:53.700 was about to be thrown in jail

01:16:55.520 but then he died

01:16:56.800 right

01:16:57.680 robert emmenager never heard of this guy

01:17:00.320 this guy's a science fiction consultant for the military

01:17:04.380 he's being used by the government

01:17:06.900 to trick people into believing in ufos

01:17:09.680 this guy who goes around saying ufos are real

01:17:13.040 well his number one source that they're real

01:17:15.640 is the apollo astronauts told himself

01:17:17.680 so this disclosure about aliens

01:17:20.720 if they if they wanted to keep aliens a secret

01:17:23.700 it would be a secret

01:17:24.620 so the fact that they're disclosing it

01:17:26.640 means they're trying to trick you into believing

01:17:28.640 that they're aliens

01:17:29.920 eugene crance flight director he was there

01:17:32.640 james webb a nasa administrator was there

01:17:35.300 joseph kirwin he was a future

01:17:38.380 nasa astronaut

01:17:40.160 thomas paine was the nasa deputy administrator

01:17:43.440 glenn lunny he was a flight director

01:17:46.260 christopher craft he was a mission control founder

01:17:49.500 james van allen

01:17:50.920 okay we have a clip at sabrell.com just uploaded it

01:17:54.920 where he says originally

01:17:56.420 it was published in scientific journal 1959

01:18:00.420 he says the radiation surrounding the earth

01:18:03.760 that you have to go through to the moon

01:18:05.080 is 100 times greater than a lethal dose

01:18:07.920 he was there

01:18:08.840 arthur trudeau was army intelligence

01:18:11.720 a person by the name of donald simon

01:18:14.220 we think they're navy intelligence

01:18:15.700 and grant to norway

01:18:16.800 we think maybe they're cia

01:18:18.700 some of these people are alive

01:18:20.900 i contacted

01:18:22.720 some of these people

01:18:24.300 before i published the book

01:18:26.240 uh because somebody asked me to

01:18:29.300 to let them know

01:18:30.640 i was about to publish their name

01:18:32.380 and that provoked

01:18:33.380 my source's house being broken into

01:18:36.180 and him being threatened

01:18:37.380 so i think

01:18:38.060 there are good guy spies

01:18:39.980 following the bad guy spies

01:18:41.640 and that's why they wanted me to

01:18:43.040 let them know

01:18:44.060 i had their name on this list

01:18:45.300 and we certainly got a reaction out of them

01:18:47.380 so

01:18:48.320 i don't know

01:18:49.860 it's so sad

01:18:51.380 that this is our country

01:18:52.580 i remember candace

01:18:54.240 like i said

01:18:55.040 i'm the fan boy

01:18:55.860 right

01:18:56.240 when i popped in that tape

01:18:57.900 that said don't show to the public

01:18:59.340 and i'm like

01:19:00.360 you know

01:19:00.920 that's not a one foot model

01:19:02.560 of the earth is it

01:19:03.400 no

01:19:03.700 surely not

01:19:04.540 that the lights come up

01:19:05.980 and it is

01:19:06.700 i just wept

01:19:07.680 i'm like

01:19:08.200 oh my gosh

01:19:10.020 they really

01:19:10.920 did

01:19:11.900 fake the moon landing

01:19:13.660 how sad is that

01:19:16.000 i'm a patriot

01:19:17.120 i want

01:19:17.780 america to be an honorable country

01:19:20.360 and we have to confess our sins

01:19:22.220 if the cia killed kennedy

01:19:23.540 let's just say so

01:19:24.840 either keep the cia

01:19:26.260 you know

01:19:27.080 reform it

01:19:27.660 or get rid of it

01:19:28.360 or do something else

01:19:29.220 if we fake the moon landing

01:19:30.700 let's just say so

01:19:31.780 right

01:19:32.400 i'm not against space travel

01:19:34.320 we should probably

01:19:35.340 try to take care of every human being on earth

01:19:37.460 make sure they have concrete floors

01:19:39.840 and indoor plumbing

01:19:40.720 surprisingly bill gates

01:19:42.280 doesn't go to africa

01:19:43.340 and give people plumbing

01:19:44.820 and concrete floors

01:19:45.680 he gives them injections

01:19:46.720 but i'm not sure

01:19:48.180 it's funny you bring that up

01:19:49.920 because well

01:19:50.640 because that was

01:19:51.260 that was the moment for me

01:19:52.580 that cracked it all open

01:19:53.620 you know

01:19:54.520 comprehending a lie

01:19:55.300 that could be so big

01:19:56.040 and so sinister for me

01:19:56.920 where it was vaccines

01:19:57.740 i was vaccine injured

01:19:58.660 then i started looking into vaccines

01:19:59.900 and i realized that the science behind it

01:20:01.460 was completely fraudulent

01:20:02.420 and they were actually making kids sick

01:20:03.940 and doing this intentionally

01:20:05.400 knowing that the whole vaccine industry

01:20:06.980 the history that they tell you

01:20:08.220 of how they stomped out polio

01:20:09.800 i mean it is

01:20:10.300 this one of the established

01:20:11.500 founding myths of big pharma

01:20:13.100 we eradicated polio

01:20:14.400 and so

01:20:15.420 once i came to terms with that

01:20:17.040 like how wrong i could be

01:20:18.720 on something

01:20:19.580 like calling people anti-vaxxers

01:20:21.340 believing they were all crazy

01:20:22.480 when in reality

01:20:23.040 these people were telling the truth

01:20:24.320 i then came to terms with

01:20:26.980 i think it was

01:20:27.840 it humbled me

01:20:28.780 i had humility

01:20:30.040 i was willing to

01:20:31.040 even if i arrive at a different conclusion

01:20:32.860 i will listen to something

01:20:34.240 that i think is crazy

01:20:35.080 like i don't believe

01:20:36.020 that the earth is flat

01:20:37.220 but i wouldn't

01:20:38.060 i wouldn't dismiss a flat earther

01:20:40.020 in the way that i would have

01:20:41.180 10 years ago

01:20:41.980 because of this vaccine thing

01:20:43.900 and so that humility

01:20:45.500 allowed me in many ways

01:20:46.860 just opened my mind

01:20:47.940 and you sometimes

01:20:48.800 you'll hear stuff

01:20:49.340 you look into it

01:20:49.920 and you go

01:20:50.200 no i still think

01:20:51.180 that's pretty crazy

01:20:51.840 but the moon landing

01:20:52.900 was one where

01:20:53.540 i always felt it was not right

01:20:55.280 and then i looked into it

01:20:56.040 and i was like

01:20:56.540 no this just actually

01:20:57.380 didn't happen

01:20:57.840 like that was not even

01:20:58.680 something that was a struggle

01:20:59.480 for me to get there

01:21:00.220 and then comprehending

01:21:01.500 really this era of

01:21:03.680 c.s lewis type scientism

01:21:05.540 that we're in

01:21:06.100 where really what they're doing

01:21:07.100 is establishing a church

01:21:08.320 a faith

01:21:08.860 science has now become a faith

01:21:10.260 it is not a true science

01:21:11.620 and you know

01:21:12.380 it's just believe

01:21:13.540 trust the experts

01:21:14.540 trust nasa

01:21:15.660 trust this

01:21:16.460 and to the point

01:21:17.680 where we're now

01:21:18.140 at a place

01:21:18.480 people won't believe

01:21:19.200 their own eyes

01:21:19.780 like you said

01:21:20.340 even if you could

01:21:21.120 you showed them

01:21:22.080 how they faked it

01:21:22.900 he's like

01:21:23.300 i still wouldn't believe it

01:21:25.140 i'm so committed

01:21:26.040 into this

01:21:26.480 in my heart

01:21:27.020 to this founding myth

01:21:28.080 that i'm not willing

01:21:29.240 to undo it

01:21:30.020 you know

01:21:30.500 that's incredible

01:21:31.320 that really tells you

01:21:32.680 the the success

01:21:33.760 of modern psychology

01:21:36.200 them recognizing that

01:21:37.720 if you turn something

01:21:38.600 into a movie

01:21:39.360 if you you know

01:21:40.580 do the movie apollo 13

01:21:41.880 and you get people

01:21:42.680 crying in a theater

01:21:43.580 and you teach them

01:21:44.280 in the classroom

01:21:44.780 from the time

01:21:45.260 they're young

01:21:45.700 and you sell them

01:21:46.620 spaceships and t-shirts

01:21:47.760 that say nasa

01:21:48.760 and also the challenger

01:21:51.060 thing looking into

01:21:51.680 that is crazy

01:21:52.260 that also seems to be

01:21:53.320 a sort of weird thing

01:21:54.780 that happened

01:21:55.260 but you know

01:21:55.720 you get everyone

01:21:56.500 to watch these moments

01:21:57.620 i mean you're talking

01:21:58.420 about mass scale

01:21:59.680 propaganda

01:22:00.340 which has been studied

01:22:01.500 by the cia

01:22:02.080 for a very long time

01:22:03.100 and i have no doubt

01:22:04.160 in my mind

01:22:05.000 that the moon landing

01:22:06.040 hoax was a major

01:22:07.200 piece of that

01:22:07.700 especially when you look

01:22:08.500 into everything

01:22:08.900 that they were up to

01:22:09.520 in the 60s

01:22:10.120 i mean mk ultra charles manson

01:22:12.260 it was just too much

01:22:14.480 crazy stuff going on

01:22:15.820 with the cia in the 60s

01:22:16.980 for me to believe

01:22:17.580 but the one thing

01:22:18.560 they really kept above bar

01:22:19.760 was the nasa program

01:22:20.820 the apollo program

01:22:21.600 was above board

01:22:22.320 but yeah they were

01:22:23.080 drugging everybody

01:22:24.060 with lsd

01:22:25.240 uh you know

01:22:26.160 faking the charles manson

01:22:27.320 being involved in there

01:22:28.300 but and but they were

01:22:29.400 above board

01:22:29.940 on the on the moon landings

01:22:31.300 absolutely not

01:22:32.340 that doesn't make any sense

01:22:33.440 people don't realize

01:22:34.480 that no eyewitnesses

01:22:35.780 only a tv picture

01:22:36.780 controlled by the federal government

01:22:38.320 and everyone wanting

01:22:39.960 to believe the lie

01:22:41.440 richard nixon

01:22:42.580 said the greatest threat

01:22:44.260 no one was there

01:22:44.700 for takeoff

01:22:45.500 in person

01:22:46.580 well no for takeoff

01:22:48.460 yeah but i'm talking

01:22:49.280 about actually

01:22:49.960 what they claim

01:22:50.780 they did is on the moon

01:22:51.900 they had to go up

01:22:53.040 you know to at least

01:22:54.000 you know do as much

01:22:54.900 as they could

01:22:55.480 they just never

01:22:56.340 left earth orbit

01:22:57.120 that's why 55 years later

01:22:59.140 they still can't

01:22:59.960 leave earth orbit

01:23:00.520 that's why there's

01:23:01.160 mannequins orbiting the moon

01:23:02.820 they said in 2014

01:23:04.300 in 2018

01:23:05.100 they'd have people

01:23:06.220 orbiting the moon

01:23:07.460 100% behind schedule

01:23:09.360 years later

01:23:10.980 they have mannequins

01:23:12.400 orbiting the moon

01:23:13.120 because they would be killed

01:23:14.500 because of the radiation

01:23:15.500 their own employee says so

01:23:17.180 it's one of the clips

01:23:18.000 at sabrell.com

01:23:19.160 and it just boggles the mind

01:23:21.020 it's right there

01:23:22.000 he says the technology

01:23:23.460 to survive the trip

01:23:24.900 to the moon

01:23:25.500 has not been invented yet

01:23:27.540 and nixon said

01:23:29.260 the greatest threat

01:23:30.700 in 1969 to america

01:23:33.080 wasn't china

01:23:33.920 wasn't russia

01:23:34.920 it was people

01:23:36.220 protesting the federal

01:23:37.380 government

01:23:37.860 over the vietnam war

01:23:39.200 so they gave him

01:23:40.260 a pep rally

01:23:41.020 the code name

01:23:42.400 according to my source

01:23:43.880 was personally

01:23:44.720 created by president

01:23:46.340 johnson

01:23:46.880 he called the fake

01:23:48.140 moon landing code name

01:23:49.420 slam dunk

01:23:50.740 because if you fake

01:23:52.400 the moon mission

01:23:53.060 you can have a 100%

01:23:54.580 guarantee of success

01:23:55.680 so it's a slam dunk

01:23:57.320 and so they guaranteed it

01:23:59.720 they gave everybody

01:24:00.680 something to cheer about

01:24:01.880 something to unite

01:24:02.840 the country

01:24:03.460 and everyone

01:24:05.460 wanted to believe it

01:24:06.580 and everyone assumed

01:24:07.720 that the government

01:24:08.820 would tell the truth

01:24:09.860 and yet it was so easy

01:24:11.680 if a controller

01:24:12.780 in the command center

01:24:14.040 can't tell the difference

01:24:15.160 between a real flight

01:24:16.480 and a simulated one

01:24:17.520 and there's no

01:24:18.380 independent press coverage

01:24:19.760 and it's that fuzzy

01:24:20.880 little picture

01:24:21.500 why did gilgan's island

01:24:23.200 go from black and white

01:24:25.360 to color

01:24:25.860 in 1964

01:24:26.700 but the most

01:24:27.980 technologically advanced

01:24:29.660 organization

01:24:30.560 NASA

01:24:31.280 has a fuzzy

01:24:32.240 black and white

01:24:32.840 picture on the moon

01:24:33.840 I wonder why

01:24:34.540 they don't have

01:24:35.200 as sharp as picture

01:24:36.180 as gilgan's island

01:24:37.000 I wonder why

01:24:37.760 because it would reveal

01:24:39.160 the fake sets

01:24:40.320 in fact

01:24:40.880 I think it was

01:24:42.580 Ron Howard's

01:24:43.420 grandfather

01:24:44.040 warned him

01:24:45.060 that the moon landings

01:24:46.580 were fake

01:24:47.120 but he wouldn't listen

01:24:48.040 he grew up

01:24:48.620 you know

01:24:48.800 with Apollo toys

01:24:49.700 he wanted to make

01:24:51.140 this IMAX movie

01:24:52.280 showing all the

01:24:53.960 Apollo footage

01:24:54.780 at the highest

01:24:55.760 resolution possible

01:24:57.060 so he goes to NASA

01:24:58.980 they say well give us

01:24:59.860 a couple of days

01:25:00.660 and two days later

01:25:02.120 they say we

01:25:02.760 accidentally lost

01:25:04.140 and erased all of

01:25:05.160 the original videotapes

01:25:06.320 right before

01:25:07.440 he transferred them

01:25:08.660 to HD

01:25:09.260 then there's a clip

01:25:10.820 you can see on my

01:25:11.660 website of NASA's

01:25:12.940 own employee

01:25:14.140 saying they

01:25:14.840 intentionally destroyed

01:25:16.400 all of the Apollo

01:25:18.020 equipment

01:25:18.540 all of the schematics

01:25:19.920 all of the hardware

01:25:21.140 all of the engineering

01:25:22.320 all of the original

01:25:23.240 telemetry

01:25:23.860 all of the original

01:25:24.620 videotapes

01:25:25.240 now

01:25:25.460 if Bill Gates

01:25:27.140 spent an equivalent

01:25:28.180 of 250 billion dollars

01:25:30.220 to build the first

01:25:31.420 supercomputer

01:25:31.960 and it worked great

01:25:33.160 do you really think

01:25:34.240 he would throw it

01:25:34.980 in a furnace

01:25:35.480 and all the diagrams

01:25:36.480 on how it got built

01:25:37.440 no

01:25:37.780 you know

01:25:38.440 maybe they should

01:25:39.260 have done that

01:25:39.760 with the atomic bomb

01:25:40.820 but like I said

01:25:41.820 10 years later

01:25:42.600 they're a thousand

01:25:43.320 times more powerful

01:25:44.260 so

01:25:44.980 why would they

01:25:46.100 destroy everything

01:25:47.000 if you really

01:25:47.800 went to the moon

01:25:48.520 and really spent

01:25:50.040 an equivalent

01:25:50.540 of 250 billion dollars

01:25:52.260 the last thing

01:25:53.200 you would do

01:25:53.800 would be to destroy

01:25:54.860 all the documentation

01:25:56.220 but that's exactly

01:25:57.420 what they did

01:25:58.320 which is only

01:25:59.760 what you would do

01:26:00.580 if you perpetrated

01:26:01.500 a fraud

01:26:02.040 so really

01:26:02.740 indirectly

01:26:03.720 the fact that

01:26:04.340 they destroyed

01:26:05.020 evidence

01:26:05.720 is proof of the fraud

01:26:07.540 because if you really

01:26:08.400 went you would never

01:26:09.180 do that

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01:27:21.520 yes

01:27:22.740 it's incredible

01:27:23.320 how much of the

01:27:24.000 evidence

01:27:24.500 accidentally got lost

01:27:26.320 or they say it

01:27:27.220 accidentally got lost

01:27:27.960 but in reality

01:27:28.420 it was destroyed

01:27:29.040 and it doesn't

01:27:29.960 make it makes

01:27:30.440 entirely no sense

01:27:31.340 like you said

01:27:31.760 they would have been

01:27:32.320 so keen to preserve

01:27:33.760 every piece of that

01:27:34.680 because like

01:27:35.220 they made human history

01:27:36.540 I mean they were

01:27:37.160 they were next to God

01:27:38.900 according to them

01:27:39.680 and you're right

01:27:40.060 that is blasphemous

01:27:40.940 you know I do want to

01:27:42.460 ask you as a final

01:27:43.280 really big question here

01:27:44.680 because I've grappled

01:27:45.840 with this myself

01:27:46.460 and I don't know

01:27:46.980 where I land at

01:27:47.680 because I so am

01:27:48.900 committed to the idea

01:27:49.500 that the moon landings

01:27:50.300 are completely fraudulent

01:27:51.400 and that it's been a hoax

01:27:52.320 and we will direct people

01:27:53.560 to your website

01:27:54.160 and I will also give them

01:27:55.280 the article that I read

01:27:56.720 which was laugh out loud

01:27:57.600 funny

01:27:57.860 it was called

01:27:58.320 wagging the moon doggy

01:27:59.420 and it essentially

01:28:00.100 says the exact same thing

01:28:01.680 that you know

01:28:02.120 they wanted to go to war

01:28:02.900 they needed a distraction

01:28:03.640 people were upset

01:28:04.360 and it gave them

01:28:05.600 a distraction

01:28:06.120 and they even wanted

01:28:07.360 to pretend they got stuck

01:28:09.160 on Apollo 13

01:28:09.980 because then they were

01:28:10.960 super distracted

01:28:11.740 when they stopped

01:28:12.340 being interested

01:28:12.980 in the moon landings

01:28:13.900 but

01:28:14.880 Elon Musk

01:28:16.820 let's talk about

01:28:17.860 Elon Musk

01:28:18.380 okay

01:28:18.800 because

01:28:19.740 you know

01:28:20.960 I think what he did

01:28:22.140 with X

01:28:22.780 is heroic

01:28:23.480 freeing the bird

01:28:24.480 saving speech

01:28:25.480 in my opinion

01:28:26.140 I think he's a brilliant

01:28:28.100 I struggle

01:28:29.660 to believe

01:28:30.540 that someone

01:28:32.260 with his mind

01:28:33.920 would believe

01:28:35.600 the moon landing

01:28:36.520 I just struggle

01:28:37.600 to believe that

01:28:38.280 he knows

01:28:39.240 he's done these

01:28:40.340 space missions

01:28:41.100 he knows

01:28:41.760 that he has not

01:28:43.020 been able

01:28:43.440 to get past

01:28:45.120 the Van Allen belt

01:28:46.060 or a manned mission

01:28:47.320 like he could not

01:28:48.080 do that himself

01:28:48.640 if he wanted to

01:28:49.400 a manned mission

01:28:50.000 beyond the Van Allen belt

01:28:51.420 and yet

01:28:52.480 he says

01:28:53.220 of course

01:28:53.920 of course

01:28:54.520 the moon landing happens

01:28:55.520 what do you make of that

01:28:57.400 I've never seen

01:28:58.000 I've never seen

01:28:58.620 a clip of him

01:28:59.320 saying of course

01:29:00.240 he tweeted it

01:29:01.020 I saw it

01:29:02.000 and he responded

01:29:02.840 to my

01:29:03.200 I think it was

01:29:03.760 my buddy Matt Walsh

01:29:04.700 and he was like

01:29:05.120 of course it happened

01:29:05.840 what I saw

01:29:07.620 is him saying

01:29:09.380 the Apollo missions

01:29:10.620 are a historical anomaly

01:29:12.820 meaning they're out

01:29:14.420 of place

01:29:15.260 logically

01:29:16.080 according to

01:29:16.820 technological development

01:29:18.080 the fact is

01:29:19.380 he's a billionaire

01:29:20.220 who has his dreams

01:29:21.380 and he can spend

01:29:22.020 billions of dollars

01:29:22.920 buying X

01:29:24.040 losing money

01:29:24.900 buying rockets

01:29:26.360 whatever

01:29:26.620 he has dreams

01:29:27.580 he wants to fulfill

01:29:28.500 why not

01:29:29.240 if I were a billionaire

01:29:30.120 I'd make all my

01:29:30.960 feature films

01:29:31.600 I want to make

01:29:32.340 the fact is

01:29:33.860 he needs the federal

01:29:34.680 government's cooperation

01:29:36.040 he needs NASA's

01:29:38.080 cooperation

01:29:38.820 to do

01:29:40.080 what he wants to do

01:29:41.640 so he's not

01:29:42.460 going to rock the boat

01:29:43.560 he said

01:29:45.140 it's a historical

01:29:45.940 anomaly

01:29:46.420 I know

01:29:47.700 that he knows

01:29:48.520 that they didn't

01:29:49.380 go to the moon

01:29:49.780 I know

01:29:50.120 he has a copy

01:29:50.720 of my book

01:29:51.300 so he knows

01:29:52.680 he used to

01:29:54.320 in the past

01:29:54.940 say more

01:29:55.500 but now

01:29:56.000 it seems like

01:29:56.620 he's kind of

01:29:57.320 towing the line

01:29:58.100 a bit more

01:29:58.680 here's what he

01:29:59.100 actually did say

01:30:00.080 okay

01:30:00.640 he said

01:30:01.560 in order to

01:30:02.120 go to the moon

01:30:02.920 they're going

01:30:04.060 to have to

01:30:04.540 make a minimum

01:30:05.400 of eight

01:30:06.820 fuel trips

01:30:08.220 first

01:30:08.940 okay

01:30:10.640 so how did

01:30:12.120 they go

01:30:12.420 in one rocket

01:30:13.160 one of the

01:30:14.020 things we disclose

01:30:14.940 in my book

01:30:15.720 is the original

01:30:16.500 findings of

01:30:17.420 von Braun

01:30:18.080 he says

01:30:18.980 the idea

01:30:19.720 to go to the moon

01:30:20.680 in one rocket

01:30:21.400 is ludicrous

01:30:22.380 it will take

01:30:23.800 a minimum

01:30:24.460 of three rockets

01:30:25.800 each

01:30:26.360 weighing

01:30:27.160 800,000

01:30:28.980 tons

01:30:29.560 the Saturn V

01:30:31.080 only weighed

01:30:32.500 2,500 tons

01:30:34.300 not

01:30:34.660 and the maker

01:30:35.460 of Saturn V

01:30:36.260 also said

01:30:36.960 that it couldn't

01:30:37.460 get them to the moon

01:30:38.320 there's a TED talk

01:30:40.040 the guy says

01:30:41.280 in order to

01:30:41.920 go to the moon

01:30:42.780 it may take

01:30:43.620 up to 24

01:30:45.120 fuel trips

01:30:46.920 we don't know

01:30:48.120 so the rocket

01:30:49.400 could not

01:30:50.120 leave earth orbit

01:30:51.160 von Braun

01:30:51.980 said so

01:30:52.780 in his own writing

01:30:53.600 he said

01:30:54.100 these numbers

01:30:54.720 are mathematically

01:30:55.780 irrefutable

01:30:56.740 I have a video

01:30:58.780 at sabrell.com

01:30:59.880 of him saying

01:31:00.500 a space station

01:31:01.540 has to be built

01:31:02.520 first

01:31:03.000 and you have

01:31:04.180 to ferry up fuel

01:31:05.200 okay

01:31:06.600 I guess

01:31:07.620 to not throw

01:31:08.580 him in jail

01:31:09.080 in 1969

01:31:09.920 which they're

01:31:10.640 about to do

01:31:11.180 years later

01:31:11.820 they blackmailed

01:31:13.220 him into

01:31:13.640 participating

01:31:14.300 in the fraud

01:31:15.000 so why is it

01:31:16.520 as things

01:31:17.740 get more efficient

01:31:18.620 we now need

01:31:19.320 8 to 24

01:31:20.360 rocket fuel

01:31:21.340 trips

01:31:21.640 to go to the moon

01:31:22.500 when we can

01:31:23.500 do it

01:31:23.960 with 1969

01:31:25.080 technology

01:31:26.000 in one rocket

01:31:26.780 you see that

01:31:27.740 so he said

01:31:28.940 two statements

01:31:29.760 that indicate

01:31:30.780 that he knows

01:31:31.880 better

01:31:32.280 he says

01:31:32.960 it's a historical

01:31:33.900 anomaly

01:31:34.400 meaning that

01:31:35.180 technology

01:31:35.860 is out of place

01:31:37.080 sequentially

01:31:37.780 which it is

01:31:38.640 because they can

01:31:39.460 only go

01:31:39.980 one thousandth

01:31:40.720 the distance

01:31:41.100 to the moon

01:31:41.640 today

01:31:42.020 with five decades

01:31:43.040 better technology

01:31:43.860 and then he said

01:31:45.120 you're going to need

01:31:45.700 eight fuel trips

01:31:46.540 first

01:31:47.000 you didn't need

01:31:49.220 that with the 1960s

01:31:50.460 equipment

01:31:50.820 what's the problem

01:31:51.900 here

01:31:52.200 you see

01:31:52.920 so I

01:31:54.060 he knows

01:31:55.100 that they didn't

01:31:55.640 go to the moon

01:31:56.300 and he's trying

01:31:57.120 to play ball

01:31:57.880 because he wants

01:31:58.800 you know

01:31:59.400 to have NASA

01:32:00.740 he's got government

01:32:01.400 contracts now

01:32:02.160 and I think that's it

01:32:02.880 because you're right

01:32:03.640 if you look in the past

01:32:04.440 he kind of drops

01:32:05.280 these little nuggets

01:32:05.960 to make it seem like

01:32:06.680 he kind of knows

01:32:07.280 the moon landing

01:32:07.580 didn't happen

01:32:08.160 then you fast forward

01:32:09.160 to like the last two years

01:32:10.160 and he I'm pretty sure

01:32:11.120 he tweeted

01:32:11.540 like I don't understand

01:32:12.760 people who don't think

01:32:13.400 the moon landing

01:32:13.720 didn't happen

01:32:14.200 or something like that

01:32:14.980 and it just seems like

01:32:15.620 he's kind of towing

01:32:16.280 a different line now

01:32:17.180 which is fine

01:32:18.020 I just wanted to bring

01:32:18.680 it to your attention

01:32:19.220 because you know

01:32:20.380 I think people have

01:32:21.320 looked to him

01:32:22.680 as someone who's

01:32:23.760 really willing to

01:32:24.540 stand up to the deep state

01:32:25.240 because of what he did

01:32:25.760 with X

01:32:26.140 and now they're starting

01:32:26.780 to ask questions

01:32:27.540 like did even

01:32:28.200 he kind of go

01:32:29.680 okay I'm tired

01:32:30.520 of fighting these dragons

01:32:31.480 and just like

01:32:32.300 I've just got to give them

01:32:33.220 one thing

01:32:34.240 and just say

01:32:34.900 okay I will kowtow

01:32:36.200 to the moon landing narrative

01:32:37.280 I hope not

01:32:38.380 but I am totally

01:32:40.120 on board with you

01:32:41.040 and we are going to

01:32:41.940 obviously show

01:32:42.700 all of the clips

01:32:43.720 that you spoke about today

01:32:44.700 throughout this episode

01:32:45.640 we'll be going back

01:32:46.660 and editing it in

01:32:47.340 if you guys are watching that

01:32:48.280 that's why

01:32:48.740 you may see some clips

01:32:50.580 being jumped in

01:32:51.340 and I just want people

01:32:53.200 to know

01:32:53.760 where they can go

01:32:55.100 you've mentioned

01:32:55.480 the website a few times

01:32:56.400 if you could just spell it

01:32:57.400 so that they know

01:32:58.120 or they can go

01:32:58.660 to look at these clips

01:33:00.140 and to find your documentary

01:33:01.300 yeah just my lastname.com

01:33:04.280 S as in Sam

01:33:05.340 I B as in boy

01:33:06.780 R-E-L

01:33:07.560 sabrell.com

01:33:09.560 my 15 years

01:33:11.220 of writing

01:33:11.880 is in this book

01:33:12.660 which contains

01:33:13.300 probably 30 years

01:33:14.360 of research

01:33:15.140 it's an interactive book

01:33:16.920 it's in audio

01:33:18.040 that I read myself

01:33:19.080 Kindle or print

01:33:19.880 and all the links

01:33:21.180 you can see right now

01:33:22.200 at sabrell.com

01:33:23.960 well thank you so much

01:33:26.680 ladies and gentlemen

01:33:27.100 if you are listening to this

01:33:28.020 this is the power of thinking

01:33:29.100 and like I say

01:33:29.800 what I always want to do

01:33:30.780 is give you the permission

01:33:31.760 to think

01:33:32.280 to think about these topics

01:33:33.660 that are deemed

01:33:34.340 otherwise obscure

01:33:35.160 if you're just opening

01:33:36.320 your mind to this plausibility

01:33:37.260 do your own research

01:33:38.480 conduct your own research

01:33:39.700 bend your mind

01:33:40.360 like a pretzel

01:33:41.000 you may come to the conclusion

01:33:42.180 like no

01:33:42.780 this absolutely did not happen

01:33:44.380 like I did

01:33:45.000 or you may say

01:33:45.660 you know what Candice

01:33:46.220 I heard you

01:33:46.880 it was in just an episode

01:33:47.620 and I still think

01:33:48.720 they did happen

01:33:49.400 that's okay

01:33:50.620 let's bring back

01:33:51.660 the ability to think

01:33:52.840 and the ability

01:33:53.880 to think critically

01:33:54.860 on your own

01:33:55.740 independently

01:33:56.180 and to come to

01:33:56.760 your own conclusions

01:33:57.600 I remain

01:33:58.960 a moon landing

01:34:00.420 did not happen

01:34:01.840 Stan

01:34:02.440 I'm not going to ever

01:34:03.640 change my mind on that

01:34:05.120 so write ahead

01:34:06.500 write your articles

01:34:07.560 journalists

01:34:07.960 call me a total kook

01:34:08.900 for not believing

01:34:09.540 in your settled science

01:34:10.500 you get way too angry

01:34:11.980 about it

01:34:12.380 for me to believe

01:34:13.260 a single shred

01:34:14.320 of what you were saying

01:34:15.640 take that Bill Maher

01:34:16.940 we'll see you guys

01:34:17.880 tomorrow

01:34:18.420 we'll see you guys

Candace Owens - December 19, 2024

How We Faked The Moon Landing With Bart Sibrel ｜ Candace Ep 124

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