Candace Owens - I Spoke With Kamala's Uncle! ｜ Candace Ep 78

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00:00:30.000 I am absolutely giddy today, you guys.

00:00:32.400 I did it.

00:00:33.000 I spoke to Kamala's uncle officially.

00:00:35.860 And by the way, he's a gem.

00:00:37.520 10 out of 10.

00:00:38.700 I really wish that he was running for president instead of her because he comes across as a 0.87

00:00:42.760 very honest man.

00:00:44.520 I'm going to tell you all about that conversation and how it's now led me to many more questions.

00:00:48.920 So many more questions that I have about Kamala and her true heritage.

00:00:53.000 Also, she's once again been asked about her racial identity.

00:00:57.020 This happened just three days ago.

00:00:58.160 And suddenly, she's a little iffy on the answer.

00:01:02.220 Kamala and me are now in a very particular kind of relationship.

00:01:05.460 I'm like Maury and she's essentially my guest.

00:01:08.540 I'm asking her a question.

00:01:09.780 Kamala, during your run as president, we asked you if your genealogy was actually Irish-Indian.

00:01:16.680 You said no.

00:01:17.420 The lie detector determined that was a lie.

00:01:20.260 Oh! 0.60

00:01:21.900 Welcome back to Candace.

00:01:23.200 Where to begin, where to begin.

00:01:39.480 Okay, so two days ago or three days ago, Kamala was asked again about her Black heritage.

00:01:45.500 And suddenly, she is getting a little iffy on the details.

00:01:49.020 You can see she does not want to engage in the conversation, and the answer that she actually gives is fantastic.

00:01:54.020 It is just fantastic, and we need to now pick it apart.

00:01:56.700 So she appeared on a show called All the Smoke, and she was interviewed by the hosts, which are former NBA players Matt Barnes and Steven Jackson.

00:02:05.740 I want you to pay very close attention to her answer here.

00:02:09.880 Take a listen.

00:02:11.140 What do you think when you hear people kind of questioning just the fabric of who you are?

00:02:15.760 Well, one, I don't listen to it.

00:02:20.500 I'm really clear about who I am, and if anybody else is not, they need to go through their own level of therapy.

00:02:25.540 That's not my issue.

00:02:27.000 My mother was very clear.

00:02:28.220 She was raising two Black girls to be two proud Black women.

00:02:31.760 And that was never, it was never a question.

00:02:35.660 You know, it's funny, because over the years, journalists, some, not most, will want to talk about it.

00:02:43.920 And I say, okay, if you want to have this conversation, I'm prepared to have it, but sit down and get comfortable for a few hours.

00:02:50.460 If you want to start talking about race in America, you want to talk about the one-eighth rule? 0.96

00:02:56.180 A drop.

00:02:56.700 Right. You want to talk about what it means in terms of what, who you are perceived to be and the impact that can have on the rest of your life, regardless of who you actually are in terms of your God-given capacity and the rights that you have and should have.

00:03:13.420 So, you know, I don't mess with that.

00:03:15.800 I think that's other people trying to figure some stuff out that they need, they need.

00:03:19.760 They got some issues.

00:03:20.700 They got to, yeah, deal with it.

00:03:21.880 Wow. So, she just doesn't answer the question at all, right?

00:03:27.400 So, before we had her really leaning into being black, now all of a sudden she's not, she doesn't even mess with that. 0.99

00:03:32.420 I don't mess with that. I don't even mess with that.

00:03:33.900 They need to go to therapy.

00:03:35.180 She's pulling this Freudian technique, obviously, and I've spoken to you about Freud, who was a disgusting human being, who essentially gaslit women who were actually being abused by their fathers.

00:03:44.800 So, what she's doing is this exact same Freudian technique of gaslighting people by being like, actually, you need therapy. 0.75

00:03:51.320 The problem is you.

00:03:52.600 The problem is actually you for asking the question.

00:03:55.120 No, Kamala, we are asking the question because you made this a theme in your bookie book, which we're going to get to in a little bit, okay?

00:04:02.440 So, you don't get to now just not address the question whatsoever.

00:04:06.480 Put yourself in her shoes, okay?

00:04:07.840 I'm going to put myself in her shoes.

00:04:08.820 I'm running for president of the United States, okay?

00:04:11.480 And these questions keep popping up about whether or not I am black.

00:04:16.080 Do you know how simple it would be to simply answer the question? 0.59

00:04:20.320 List your black relatives?

00:04:21.840 In four seconds, I would be like, this is my grandma. 0.88

00:04:24.880 This is my grandpa.

00:04:25.980 Suddenly, she's not, she's a little iffy on the details here.

00:04:29.000 Why didn't she just say, yes, obviously, my grandmother is Beryl. 0.88

00:04:32.060 Here's a picture of her.

00:04:32.960 She's black. 0.97

00:04:33.520 I'm disgusted with the people that are even calling this into question. 0.88

00:04:36.220 Here's my great-grandmother, Iris Finnegan.

00:04:39.040 I am obviously black.

00:04:40.400 Instead, she goes, oh, do you really want to talk about it?

00:04:43.820 That's what I say to these shows.

00:04:44.960 Do you really want to talk about race?

00:04:47.280 Do you really want to talk about the one-eighth rule?

00:04:50.780 I mean, how dare she? 0.75

00:04:51.900 And the answer is yes, Kamala.

00:04:53.180 Actually, I would like to talk about it.

00:04:55.340 Yeah, I'm actually totally up for talking about the one-drop rule, the one-eighth rule.

00:05:00.700 Let's discuss history.

00:05:01.880 That's what those journalists should have done.

00:05:03.160 That's what those former NBA players should have done, not giving her a free pass. 0.98

00:05:06.460 I would have been like, no, ma'am.

00:05:07.600 Name your ancestors, and why are you bringing up the one-eighth rule at all?

00:05:12.320 Let's talk about the history here, okay?

00:05:13.580 The one-drop rule was actually a legal doctrine in the United States that was used as a means

00:05:18.940 of racial classification, okay?

00:05:20.860 It really dates back to the antebellum period in Virginia, where people of color were considered

00:05:25.800 legally white if they had less than 25% African ancestry.

00:05:31.540 So we're talking about something that was pre-Civil War, but then the classifications

00:05:35.540 became especially relevant throughout Jim Crow in the South, obviously, because of segregation.

00:05:39.880 So they're like, are you white or are you black?

00:05:42.180 So they needed to know how to quantify whiteness and blackness. 0.62

00:05:46.460 The laws were first officially codified in Tennessee as one of Virginia's racial integrity

00:05:50.960 laws.

00:05:51.780 They wanted birth certificates to just be very clear whether a parent was legally white or

00:05:56.140 legally a Negro, so that it was known which laws in society you had to abide by.

00:06:01.980 What about Indian Americans?

00:06:03.620 Because strangely, she brings up her mom.

00:06:06.180 You would think the first thing she would do would be to bring up her dad. 0.95

00:06:09.680 Instead, she brings up her mom. 0.75

00:06:10.640 She's like, my mom was very clear that she was raising two black women.

00:06:14.860 Your mother is Indian, like fully 100% Indian.

00:06:18.960 So the fact that the first person that you recall is a non-black person is suspicious. 0.98

00:06:24.400 And regarding Indian Americans, just to be clear, in 1923, the Supreme Court decided in

00:06:30.360 the United States versus Bhagat Singh Thind that Indians were classified as Caucasians, as they

00:06:37.260 had been by anthropologists.

00:06:39.040 They upheld that, but they also made it clear that they were not considered white.

00:06:44.240 So that is probably the answer as to why her mother put Caucasian on her birth certificate. 0.72

00:06:50.880 That was actually the legal classification for Indian women. 0.98

00:06:55.060 Now, also regarding this one-drop rule, Kamala Harris was never subject to it ever in her entire 1.00

00:07:02.300 lifetime.

00:07:03.400 She was born in California.

00:07:05.260 Just to be clear, that was the very first state to end segregation, and they did that back

00:07:09.780 in 1947.

00:07:11.400 So they did it seven years before the Supreme Court decision of Brown versus education, which

00:07:17.880 federalized desegregating all of the schools.

00:07:20.260 So it actually infuriates me that she does this, that she essentially goes back and pretends

00:07:25.760 that she's lived through something like, oh, well, let's talk about the one-drop rule.

00:07:29.560 Why are we discussing the one-drop rule?

00:07:31.440 By the way, even if you were subjected to it, you probably would have passed since none of

00:07:35.580 your parents are listed as Negroes on your birth certificate.

00:07:38.300 Like, what are you doing mining the history of Black people that came before you and who

00:07:44.220 you are still refusing to name?

00:07:46.520 You put them in a book once, but that was it.

00:07:48.500 Now you don't want to talk about Grandma Beryl.

00:07:50.680 What's up with that?

00:07:51.520 Now you don't want to talk about great-grandma Iris Finnegan.

00:07:54.480 What is up with that?

00:07:56.080 And by the way, as I was considering that, her upbringing and how strange it is that she

00:07:59.780 keeps leaning into this idea.

00:08:01.220 Like, she was born two years before my mother was born, and my mother didn't live through

00:08:05.060 segregation.

00:08:05.660 My mother didn't live through any of this stuff. 0.94

00:08:07.060 These are not her memories.

00:08:08.000 These are the memories of my grandparents.

00:08:10.060 My grandfather lived through segregation.

00:08:12.080 I'm going, why does Kamala keep doing this, like, acting like she grew up in the 40s and 1.00

00:08:16.640 in the 50s with these sorts of memories?

00:08:19.020 And then I remembered, suddenly, that she did this on stage a while ago, where she got

00:08:24.220 almost teary-eyed and emotional talking about busing and desegregation.

00:08:29.240 I'm going to roll that back for you just to jog your memory.

00:08:31.820 Take a listen.

00:08:32.300 You also worked with them to oppose busing.

00:08:36.880 And, you know, there was a little girl in California who was part of the second class

00:08:42.460 to integrate her public schools.

00:08:44.720 And she was bused to school every day.

00:08:47.980 And that little girl was me.

00:08:49.520 Okay, guys, so you watch that clip, okay?

00:08:56.840 You're an American.

00:08:58.060 You see she's getting a little choked up.

00:08:59.860 And you can instantly assume that what she means is that she was like a Ruby Bridges.

00:09:08.080 Yeah, like, that little girl was me in second grade.

00:09:11.640 I was a part of the second class to be desegregated.

00:09:14.360 Like, that instantly signals, given the emotionality of it, that she was a Ruby Bridges. 0.64

00:09:20.260 Talk about mining Black history. 1.00

00:09:21.840 Well, let me be clear.

00:09:22.960 She intentionally misled people here to make them believe that she was a Young Ruby Bridges. 1.00

00:09:28.200 This is how disgusting and despicable this woman is. 1.00

00:09:30.780 She wanted people to go back in their minds to all they learned about Ruby Bridges, 0.97

00:09:35.820 the images of Ruby Bridges having to be protected by police as she entered into that school in Louisiana.

00:09:44.340 She wanted people to go back in their minds to that.

00:09:47.300 That's why she's getting all choky. 1.00

00:09:49.400 She's like on the brink of tears.

00:09:50.920 That little girl.

00:09:51.900 So to be perfectly clear here, that little girl went to Thousand Oaks Elementary School in Berkeley.

00:09:58.960 And far from that impression she's giving, she did not live through any desegregation or any real desegregation at all.

00:10:06.420 Because as I mentioned, the schools had already gone through that before she was born.

00:10:11.620 Literally before she was born in 1947.

00:10:15.060 In fact, the school district had to issue a statement after that performance on stage.

00:10:21.840 And this is what they had to put up on their website for clarification.

00:10:25.560 They wrote,

00:10:26.340 There has been some confusion in the media and social media around the Berkeley schools and integration due to the fact that our high school was already integrated.

00:10:35.620 As evidenced, for example, by high school yearbooks, which show children of many race and ethnicities at school together prior to 1968.

00:10:43.240 In Berkeley, we only have one comprehensive high school.

00:10:47.560 So it was integrated by default.

00:10:48.900 Our elementary schools, however, reflected the racial composition of our neighborhoods, which, like many neighborhoods across America, reflected the history of segregation,

00:10:59.120 stemming from policies which restricted the opportunities of non-white residents.

00:11:05.040 So then they go on.

00:11:06.500 We recently celebrated the 50-year anniversary of our voluntary busing plan.

00:11:11.560 And you can find additional details here.

00:11:13.300 So let me clarify to you what actually happened in her childhood.

00:11:15.960 There was no desegregation effort like that was that she had to live through. 0.93

00:11:20.780 She was not Ruby Bridges.

00:11:21.740 Rather, what they realized was because of the past in which you had black people all living in one neighborhood and some this was contributed sometimes because of like red line districting.

00:11:30.980 You had black people living in one neighborhood.

00:11:32.480 You had white people living in one neighborhood.

00:11:34.140 What ended up happening was that you had schools which were like majority black and which were majority white.

00:11:40.920 And so what they wanted to do in Berkeley was to be the first to offer a busing plan to turn that around so that the buses would pick up students that lived far from the white school and bring them over there so that the schools would be more evenly mixed.

00:11:55.360 That's what she's describing.

00:11:56.400 So after they put and implemented this busing plan, Kamala was the second or third class since they had implemented this busing plan.

00:12:06.080 Nothing to do with desegregation, just an effort to say, OK, we're realizing now people are just districted according to where they live.

00:12:13.700 You're going to have these schools that are like 85 percent black and some schools that are 85 percent white.

00:12:18.160 That's what it is.

00:12:19.580 So just thinking about the emotionality and how tricky she's being here, again, trying to allude to like some Ruby Bridges scenario really makes me angry.

00:12:29.820 It is just so unacceptable.

00:12:32.000 I just can't stand this fraud.

00:12:33.720 And it's so important to state also that the one drop rule was declared officially unconstitutional in 1967.

00:12:40.260 That was just three years after Kamala was born.

00:12:42.840 This is just not her childhood at all.

00:12:45.720 Not her childhood at all.

00:12:46.360 This is just what she does. 0.95

00:12:47.580 She lies and she lies and she lies. 1.00

00:12:50.140 But it gets better.

00:12:51.300 It gets better.

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00:13:59.900 So like I said, it gets better because yesterday I was going through her book that I downloaded.

00:14:05.340 I downloaded that so that you didn't have to because I wanted to send a picture of her grandma, Beryl, to someone.

00:14:11.640 So initially, when we started looking into the story, my producer had downloaded the book.

00:14:15.020 I had downloaded the book, but he had stumbled upon the picture of Beryl.

00:14:18.580 So I hadn't actually flipped through the e-book that I had downloaded.

00:14:23.600 And so remarkably, it was kind of the first time I was going to the picture segment looking for Beryl.

00:14:27.900 And I realized, Beryl's not in this book.

00:14:31.820 I was going, wait, what's going on?

00:14:33.600 This is her book.

00:14:34.980 Where is the Beryl picture?

00:14:36.440 And I said to my producer, like, did we make a mistake?

00:14:37.920 Like, this is definitely in the book.

00:14:39.200 He pulls his up.

00:14:40.120 He has a picture of Beryl.

00:14:41.160 Beryl, mine doesn't.

00:14:42.080 I'm going, is this a different edition of the book?

00:14:44.000 And yes, it was.

00:14:45.440 There were actually two publications of the book.

00:14:49.020 One in January of 2019.

00:14:52.880 And then five months later, in May of 2019, they published what is known as a young reader's edition.

00:15:00.420 Basically, it's exactly what it sounds like.

00:15:01.980 It's meant to be for younger readers.

00:15:03.700 And it's typically more pictorial, right?

00:15:06.220 So they want to change a couple of words, essentially kind of dumb it down to make it easier to read and include more pictures.

00:15:12.040 Yet in this edition, they decided to remove pictures.

00:15:15.920 And it's just, I guess, ironic that the pictures that they removed for the young reader's later edition were pictures of Black Iris and Grandma Beryl.

00:15:26.820 There were more pictures that were removed, but the family members were all still there, except for Black Iris and Grandma Beryl.

00:15:32.940 I found that to be extremely interesting.

00:15:36.400 But suddenly, I realized that I had never flipped through the book that had more pictures than the edition that I was holding.

00:15:43.880 And I started going through them.

00:15:45.540 And you guys are not even going to believe just how diabolical Kamala Harris is. 0.88

00:15:50.360 It was just, I'm going to have to just go through this calmly because I am telling you, as a Black person, it's actually offensive how hard she tried to Blackify herself. 0.76

00:16:01.000 And it made me think of the entire Emmanuel Macron, Brigitte Macron scandal, because the journalist that broke that story essentially said that what they do when they're running is they publish a book, and that is the legend that is established, essentially, because people in their minds think, oh, well, if it's in a book and a publisher agreed to publish it, HarperCollins published this book about Kamala, they must have fact-checked this, and all of this must be true.

00:16:24.960 People have this wrong perception that if a book is published as nonfiction, that there was some effort of due diligence, which means that everything that you're reading is not fiction.

00:16:34.220 So they do this.

00:16:35.340 It's like a rite of passage.

00:16:36.760 I'm publishing this book, and I'm expecting everyone to just accept this as the legend of Kamala Harris.

00:16:42.320 I'm going through these pictures, okay?

00:16:43.760 And aside from Iris, aside from Beryl, she also decided to include some other, what I would describe as noteworthy pictures of herself, like this one,

00:16:54.080 where she writes, sporting my fro, summer of 1970.

00:16:59.040 But basically, you just know when you go through this that they essentially sat down as a team, and were like, we're creating the legend, we need you to be black, okay?

00:17:07.220 This was published again in 2019, and they're like, we need that black book.

00:17:11.060 Let's make it easy.

00:17:11.920 Give me the blackest photos of you that you can possibly find. 0.98

00:17:14.380 Like, to put the caption of her afro is just signaling to black people, hey, I'm black, which is ridiculous because there's so many other races that have afros. 0.98

00:17:21.800 Puerto Ricans have afros, Spanish people have afros, Jewish people have afros, Mark, my director, is Jewish. 0.80

00:17:28.520 He has an afro, okay?

00:17:30.140 It is not, like, proprietary to black people, but she's publishing this because, like, you're just supposed to look at the picture, look at the picture and go, oh, she's got an afro. 0.66

00:17:37.300 I guess she's black. 0.98

00:17:38.320 She literally wrote that, okay? 0.87

00:17:39.540 Then, of course, if you can imagine this team sitting down trying to process how to sell black, you would go, well, Harlem, right?

00:17:48.040 You got to put some pictures of Harlem in here, and there are pictures of her in Harlem.

00:17:51.640 Look at this photo.

00:17:53.040 She just posts up right here. 0.87

00:17:54.520 Visiting my uncle Freddy in Harlem.

00:17:57.180 Harlem was always a magical place for me.

00:17:58.980 Now, what's interesting about this picture is the man behind, I don't know if that's actually her uncle Freddy, right?

00:18:06.320 Like, that came to my mind.

00:18:07.520 I'm like, is this just, like, a guy working on the side of the street, and she's just, like, including him because this picture shows a black man that's in Harlem and, again, signals to black people that, like, she's with her uncle up in Harlem.

00:18:19.840 Kind of feels that way.

00:18:21.320 But then I realized that she featured some more pictures of her black aunties and her black uncles, and we see Uncle Fred again.

00:18:28.420 Take a look at this photo.

00:18:29.340 So, this is going to drive you guys crazy, because I just, I still can't believe it when I read it.

00:18:34.740 So, you see three obviously black people in this photo. 0.52

00:18:39.160 You would not question the authenticity of their blackness.

00:18:42.440 And the caption reads, I'm blessed with an amazing family.

00:18:46.340 I'll never be able to thank Auntie Chris, Uncle Freddy, and Aunt Mary enough for their constant encouragement and support.

00:18:53.500 They always showed up for me, as they did here at a campaign event for my DA's race that we held at a San Francisco, you guessed it, jazz club, because, hey, we're talking Harlem, we're talking black people, we're talking afros. 0.69

00:19:08.040 Let's also post a picture of you in a jazz club with your aunties and your uncles, and, like, black people will just accept that you only have all these photos because you're, like, super black. 0.55

00:19:18.600 But then I said, wait a second, she doesn't have an Aunt Mary or an Aunt Chris or an Uncle Fred.

00:19:25.980 I've been deep in this woman's genealogy.

00:19:27.800 Who are we talking about here?

00:19:28.920 These people do not exist.

00:19:30.780 And I said, is it possible that, like, somewhere in the book that she's alleging, probably assuming that no one is going to actually read through, she acknowledges that these aren't her real aunties and uncles?

00:19:41.220 And the answer is yes, my friends.

00:19:43.240 There's a passage about Aunt Mary and Uncle Freddy in this book.

00:19:46.780 The Truths We Hold, which is really just the greatest trick ever played on black America. 0.99

00:19:52.060 She writes this.

00:19:52.960 My mother surrounded herself with close friends who were really more like sisters.

00:19:57.540 My godmother, a fellow Berkeley student whom I knew as Aunt Mary, was one of them.

00:20:02.840 They met through the civil rights movement that was taking shape in the early 1960s and was being debated and defended from the streets of Oakland to the soapboxes in Berkeley's Sproul Plaza.

00:20:13.120 As black students spoke out against injustice, a group of passionate, keenly intelligent, politically engaged young men and women found one another.

00:20:21.640 My mother and Aunt Mary among them.

00:20:24.540 They went to peaceful protests where they were attacked by police with hoses.

00:20:28.080 They marched against the Vietnam War and for civil rights and voting rights.

00:20:31.500 They went together to see Martin Luther King Jr. speak at Berkeley.

00:20:34.120 My mother had a chance to meet him.

00:20:35.400 She told me that at one of these anti-war protests, the marchers were confronted by the Hell's Angels.

00:20:41.140 She told me that at another, she and her friend were forced to run for safety with me in a stroller after violence broke out against the protesters.

00:20:47.860 But my parents and their friends were more than just protesters.

00:20:50.680 They were big thinkers, pushing big ideas, organizing their community.

00:20:54.080 Aunt Mary, her brother, my uncle, Freddie, my mother and father, and about a dozen other students organized a study group to read the black writers that the university was ignoring.

00:21:05.540 So you guys, what can I say here?

00:21:14.220 I'm at, I am being reduced to sound effects.

00:21:18.380 She wrote this book and she starts the sentence with her family.

00:21:22.900 She's visiting her family in Harlem.

00:21:25.320 This is maybe, I just, she wrote, I have the best family.

00:21:29.500 And shows multiple pictures of an Uncle Fred that isn't her Fred.

00:21:33.640 Why did she do this? 1.00

00:21:34.980 It's not her uncle, okay?

00:21:36.540 It's just not her uncle.

00:21:37.580 It's her mom's friend.

00:21:39.040 And she dedicates so much time to him and the protests and she's dropping Martin Luther King and she's dropping W.E.B. Du Bois and she's dropping so many other people that are black in this book.

00:21:51.640 For what reason?

00:21:54.200 Because she's performing.

00:21:56.880 Because this is a slight of hand.

00:21:58.840 Because they quite literally, likely sat around in a boardroom and they said, how can we make you black?

00:22:04.120 I want to see every photo of you ever taken.

00:22:06.620 And I'm going to tell you what, in people's minds, will just read like blackness.

00:22:12.640 So we've got Ruby Bridges now in people's memory, being embedded in people's memory.

00:22:18.740 Now we've got this idea of her marching aunties and uncles in Harlem.

00:22:23.220 It's just so unacceptable.

00:22:26.780 It is so unacceptable.

00:22:30.200 After going through all these photos, I made a joke to my producer and director.

00:22:34.440 I was like, oh, what's next?

00:22:35.900 Is there going to be a picture of her just like eating collard greens and cornbread?

00:22:39.720 Is she going to be like, this is me eating collard greens and cornbread?

00:22:43.200 Her, her, I'm in Harlem.

00:22:45.120 And they said back to me, no, no, she's done that.

00:22:48.680 I said, no. 0.99

00:22:49.560 I said, shut up. 0.98

00:22:50.400 That's not true. 0.99

00:22:51.000 She's not done that. 0.60

00:22:51.720 There's no way.

00:22:52.560 They said, yeah, no, there are clips of her.

00:22:55.380 Speaking about collard greens, I said, I cannot believe this.

00:23:00.680 Produce me the clip.

00:23:02.820 And they did.

00:23:03.340 Here it is.

00:23:04.960 I have a friend who had a Christmas party, Christmas Eve every year.

00:23:09.500 And she asked me to make the greens for a party every year.

00:23:12.940 And I am not lying to you that I would make so many greens that I'd need to wash them in the bathtub.

00:23:19.720 I'm telling you the truth.

00:23:21.560 So how do you make your greens?

00:23:23.600 Do you put turkey in them?

00:23:25.480 Bacon.

00:23:26.460 Nice.

00:23:27.700 I do bacon.

00:23:28.820 Bacon.

00:23:29.560 She's put garlic. 0.51

00:23:30.360 I put white vinegar.

00:23:31.880 I do it.

00:23:32.520 So I start with, I slice up my garlic.

00:23:36.140 But no, first I fry, chop up the bacon and get all that fat going.

00:23:41.120 Then I put garlic, some chili peppers, and then a lot of water and a little chicken stock.

00:23:48.100 And I let it go for a while, before I put the greens in.

00:23:53.320 And then, right, so you get that going and all that flavor.

00:23:57.480 And then I put the greens in for a couple hours.

00:24:00.220 Then I do vinegar.

00:24:01.260 And then I cheat and do a little Tabasco.

00:24:04.380 No, that's okay.

00:24:05.520 Yeah.

00:24:05.940 But Tabasco, of all, like, I like Louisiana hot dogs, but Tabasco has that right amount of vinegar.

00:24:11.700 Yeah.

00:24:12.580 And so that's how I do my greens.

00:24:14.760 I see why you get invited every year.

00:24:18.820 And she brought it up again at another event.

00:24:21.240 Take a listen.

00:24:22.700 All right, Marlon.

00:24:23.560 So I know how to make a mean part of greens.

00:24:25.880 In fact, people used to ask me to make greens for them for Christmas.

00:24:29.520 One year, I had so many that I had to wash that we ended up washing them in the bathtub.

00:24:35.040 So I am not playing around.

00:24:39.040 Black America, listen to me.

00:24:40.500 I'm speaking directly to you because I am not playing around either. 0.99

00:24:43.720 If I catch you voting for this woman, I'm going to haunt you. 1.00

00:24:49.300 I'm going to haunt you in your dreams. 0.98

00:24:50.680 There will be nowhere that you can go where I will not haunt you.

00:24:54.280 This is just, we have to come together.

00:24:56.860 At some point in society, we have to come together to declare this unacceptable.

00:25:02.620 Like, I don't care where you sit on the spectrum.

00:25:05.840 This is the most not okay thing that I have ever seen in the history of politics. 0.58

00:25:11.400 This is how she's shoring up black folks. 1.00

00:25:13.280 She's going around talking about collard greens, putting in fake pictures of her uncles and aunties 0.95

00:25:19.320 that are black, while conveniently ignoring all of her aunties and uncles that are white.

00:25:24.500 And people are just eating this up, eating this up. 0.93

00:25:27.880 Let me find that woman that was going, okay, to all that vinegar put into her collar. 1.00

00:25:31.480 Okay, let me find her.

00:25:33.080 I'm going to haunt her.

00:25:33.960 I promise you that.

00:25:34.740 But of course, guys, let's get to me speaking to her uncle, because that actually happened.

00:25:43.200 Like I promised you yesterday, I said, I had a phone call.

00:25:45.880 I was trying to wait for it to happen yesterday.

00:25:47.280 Well, it happened last night.

00:25:48.540 Part one of our phone call happened last night.

00:25:49.980 We briefly spoke on the phone, I would say for about 10 minutes.

00:25:53.260 And I first want to say just how much I liked this guy.

00:25:56.500 I just, I knew, I just had a feel like, okay, I'll be honest.

00:26:00.060 I have a Caribbean bias.

00:26:01.140 My former producer made it very clear to me that I have a Caribbean bias because she'd

00:26:05.160 pitch me stories or like, say like, Rihanna did this.

00:26:07.380 And I'd be like, I'm not going to say anything bad about Rihanna or like Nicki Minaj.

00:26:10.880 And she's like, but you, I have a Caribbean bias.

00:26:13.500 This guy's got a Caribbean accent.

00:26:15.500 My grandma had a very thick St. Tomian accent.

00:26:18.500 So it was just like, I could sense his Caribbean calm.

00:26:21.580 I can't explain to you.

00:26:22.700 And I could just also sense that he was being incredibly honest and forthright.

00:26:26.580 And he was speaking to me and it was actually like very,

00:26:31.140 I guess I would say just beautiful in a way because he cared about this.

00:26:36.080 He wanted to reach out because he cares so much about Vioris, you know,

00:26:40.200 and he doesn't want whatever is going on with Kamala to make people have this perception of Vioris.

00:26:46.440 And I told him right away that it was never my intention for him to get inundated.

00:26:49.940 So I want to be clear.

00:26:51.080 My understanding is that it's the press calling,

00:26:52.740 but I want to make sure that there are no Candace Owens viewers that are going out there calling any of these relatives that are still alive,

00:27:02.400 because we can find information online, but we definitely should not be harassing her relatives who have nothing to do with her running.

00:27:08.400 And in many cases, don't even agree with her politics.

00:27:10.160 Like this person that I spoke to is a Candace Owens fan, conservative, as many Caribbeans are conservative,

00:27:14.860 because like, you know, on the islands that there is not a lot of wokeness.

00:27:20.260 I'll leave it at that. 0.96

00:27:21.300 You know, why are you gay kind of a vibe going on? 1.00

00:27:24.400 You are gay. 1.00

00:27:25.260 It's a little bit more of like an island vibe. 0.95

00:27:27.160 Anyways, I just said to him, look, we're just trying to get questions answered about Kamala's heritage because of her father's paper.

00:27:37.960 I said, I have a lot of questions about your brother, Donald Harris.

00:27:41.960 I just am not understanding anything in this paper.

00:27:44.680 And I went through the holes in it.

00:27:46.160 I went through the fact that, you know, he mentions this person growing up, like they all kind of grew up on a farm together.

00:27:52.800 But you're asking the question, like, Beryl married this person.

00:27:55.820 Why is he trying to make it seem like everyone grew up as one happy family?

00:27:59.720 Why didn't he even mention Fioris at all, which is kind of the dog that didn't bark?

00:28:06.180 And I asked him directly if he knew the Miss Iris that he is referring to in this book,

00:28:13.940 in the Miss Iris that Donald J. Harris is referring to in his piece, rather, who he says is Iris Nay Finnegan.

00:28:19.460 Again, very strange because Iris should have never been Nay Finnegan. 0.88

00:28:22.880 Finnegan was her married name.

00:28:24.120 And he said, I can't answer that.

00:28:26.860 I don't know that name.

00:28:28.660 I want to be very clear.

00:28:29.300 He has a relationship with Donald.

00:28:30.820 He is close with Donald.

00:28:32.220 They grew up together.

00:28:33.200 He considers Donald his full brother.

00:28:35.140 He has no idea who Miss Iris Finnegan is.

00:28:38.680 This is Donald's brother that we're talking about.

00:28:41.140 So I said, OK, that's, of course, of some interest to me.

00:28:45.080 I asked him why it is that he's even then mentioning this Miss Iris.

00:28:50.840 And he told me that he wanted to clarify something which was of most importance to me.

00:28:56.620 He wanted me to know that before Vioris and Oscar Harris got married, Oscar Harris already had three children.

00:29:06.760 OK, one of them being Donald.

00:29:08.060 Now, to be clear, he is younger than Donald, a lot younger than Donald.

00:29:12.340 So he would know much about if there was some family secret, he would not be aware of it.

00:29:17.620 But to the best of his knowledge, like this is what he was told that they had three children before Vioris and Oscar got married.

00:29:24.560 And I asked him, quite frankly, if he knew or heard of Beryl.

00:29:29.800 He told me he does not know Beryl.

00:29:33.540 Instant red flag to me.

00:29:34.860 I'm like, what do you mean?

00:29:35.480 How do you not know if you have a half sibling that you are close to and have been close to your whole life?

00:29:40.580 How do you not know who their mom is?

00:29:44.060 He said, I don't know who his mother is.

00:29:46.600 You don't know who Donald Harris's mom is.

00:29:48.020 The woman who started this entire thing, Beryl Finnegan, the person who just flagged me as weird.

00:29:53.400 Something is not right here.

00:29:54.820 We now know that Donald Harris's brother does not know him.

00:29:57.200 OK, like I said, he said that Oscar Harris had three children before he married Vioris.

00:30:01.620 He mentioned that Donald was very close to them.

00:30:04.280 He also said that Oscar Harris's children all had they all had business it businesses that Donald when he was coming up, Donald was in university.

00:30:12.340 They kept very close to him.

00:30:14.520 He said that Donald has always been very, very private and he doesn't like publicity.

00:30:22.700 And I find that to be very interesting.

00:30:26.400 But what people.

00:30:27.500 Yeah, sure.

00:30:28.240 There are some people who are exceedingly private and there are some people who are exceedingly private because they have something to hide.

00:30:35.180 And I, again, do not feel that Donald Harris was telling the truth about his upbringing.

00:30:39.680 I think he gave some truths and kind of made it very murky in his Jamaican heritage piece.

00:30:45.320 But some things that were objectively proven to be untrue.

00:30:49.880 He told me that Kamala definitively knows Vioris, that he also knows her.

00:30:56.640 He visited, that she visited Jamaica twice with her father.

00:31:00.640 And that's sometime after she had graduated college.

00:31:04.700 She went down to Florida with her sister and she visited Vioris.

00:31:08.860 So she had a relationship with Vioris.

00:31:10.620 Unfortunately, Vioris did not make her book.

00:31:12.900 And I think we know why Vioris did not make her book.

00:31:15.740 Now, I have no reason not to believe the person that I spoke to.

00:31:18.640 I just felt that he was being very authentic and he was there to simply clarify some things.

00:31:23.560 And that he didn't know the answers to some things.

00:31:25.920 He authentically didn't know.

00:31:26.940 And if he is telling me something that is not correct, then the reason why those things are not correct is not because he's trying to lie, but it's because he is not aware of them.

00:31:36.740 So it leads us, again, to more questions about Donald Harris.

00:31:41.680 Who is this guy?

00:31:43.220 Who is his mother?

00:31:44.800 Where is Beryl?

00:31:46.380 Okay.

00:31:46.820 Where is Iris Finnegan?

00:31:47.980 Why won't Kamala, who felt so, I guess, close enough to Beryl and Iris to include them in their book, why won't she even mention them as an easy way to debunk what is being said?

00:31:59.880 Why is she even mentioning the one-eighth rule?

00:32:03.660 What are you talking about, Kamala? 0.90

00:32:05.560 If you're telling us that your grandmother is Beryl, she looks pretty black to us, like that would make you more than one-eighth black. 0.71

00:32:13.600 What's going on here?

00:32:15.120 Why are we getting all Liffeyama details?

00:32:16.780 We've got a couple of lingering questions here, and I'll tell you what we are starting to think about.

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00:33:24.520 Okay, now let's get into some other leads.

00:33:26.500 So we have a couple of interesting things that are happening, some things that we are exploring.

00:33:29.720 Someone has found, okay, and this is, by the way, we'd be inconspirational.

00:33:34.180 We've got nothing more than like a visual, and I can say by the visual, this woman does look like the Beryl that is pictured with Kamala that I said looks like a 60-year-old woman.

00:33:46.340 I'll show you the photo right here.

00:33:47.940 Okay, so somebody came across a woman who has the same name, Beryl, who is still alive, very, very, very old.

00:33:57.120 Now, this woman is not at all related to Kamala, judging by who her son is and doing that sort of a thing.

00:34:02.220 She's not related to Kamala.

00:34:03.380 But again, she has that same name.

00:34:05.160 She's still alive.

00:34:06.040 And we have confirmed that she is from that same town, that same place, Brownstown, Jamaica.

00:34:10.640 So we know she would have been there at the same time.

00:34:14.580 And like I said, she resembles the person that Kamala is trying to pass off as her grandma.

00:34:20.260 Could this be the help?

00:34:22.800 Could this be a woman that they just took a picture with?

00:34:25.600 We're going to explore that lead, but first a bigger lead.

00:34:28.720 Now I can just send all of you guys to hunt and figure things out.

00:34:33.380 By the way, I'm depressed because next week I'm on vacation, which means that we're going to have to stop this.

00:34:37.620 Like tomorrow will be the last day of the investigation before we have to pause for a week and come back after Columbus Day.

00:34:42.360 But anyways, here is something that you guys can help with.

00:34:45.800 So remember in Donald J. Harris's piece, he mentioned only a sister.

00:34:50.060 Despite the fact that he has like at least five other siblings, he only mentioned Enid Maud Harris.

00:34:56.460 He mentioned he just calls her Enid.

00:34:57.860 We were able to find her because one of you guys sent us a file and it is confirmed that Enid is the sister that Donald Harris had, which predates his Oscar Harris's marriage to Lioris.

00:35:14.520 And it turns out that she is just a half-sister.

00:35:19.260 We were able to determine this because we found her marriage certificate where both of her parents' names are listed.

00:35:26.860 I'm going to show that to you right now so you can see that Enid Maud Harris got married at St. Peter's Church.

00:35:33.140 This was in New York.

00:35:34.780 And that she married a man named Hugh Ashton Watts.

00:35:39.140 Okay, you can see listed under her parents, we have Oscar Joseph Harris, and we also have Perlene Curry. 0.60

00:35:48.840 We cannot find Perlene Curry, and we cannot find Hugh Ashton Watts.

00:35:55.960 Now, both of these people would be dead today.

00:35:59.960 Okay, so again, we're just asking you to crawl through online looking for documents to determine who these people are.

00:36:05.620 It's like without a trace.

00:36:06.980 Yes, we know that Enid is still alive.

00:36:09.060 Obviously, Enid is very advanced in age, so do not call Enid and ask any questions.

00:36:13.980 We are not okay with that.

00:36:14.940 We are not here to harass elderly people.

00:36:17.400 We're just looking for answers because there is a plausibility that maybe Perlene Curry is his true mother that he's not telling us about.

00:36:27.400 Maybe Perlene Curry is Kamala Harris's grandmother and not Beryl, right?

00:36:32.500 So, again, we have questions here, and the fact that we can't find Perlene Curry, we just want to know what race she is, what she looks like.

00:36:40.260 That's really kind of the information that we're looking for.

00:36:42.700 And, again, a good start here is you can find Perlene Curry or if you can find Hugh Ashton Watts.

00:36:51.360 And we know that they got married in New York.

00:36:54.200 We know that they lived at least for a short time in the Bronx.

00:36:57.760 We're sending you guys out to explore those leads as we continue to try to get to the bottom of Kamala's heritage because I personally do not accept that I need therapy, as she says.

00:37:10.860 If you are even asking a question, you need therapy.

00:37:12.640 No, no, no, no, no. 0.99

00:37:13.780 Like I said, we are only here because you sent out your media goons to go after Janet Jackson and to try to paint her as crazy. 0.92

00:37:20.700 We are only here because we have now arrived at the stage where you've gone from bringing Megan Thee Stallion out to shake her butt, you're walking out to Beyonce, you're talking about collard greens, you're dropping fake black relatives to kind of persuade people that you have this black upbringing, you're talking about Harlem. 0.87

00:37:37.180 You don't get to pull a 180 and pretend that it's irrelevant, okay?

00:37:41.680 Because, you know, when Trump was on stage and he said to you, look, I don't care whatever she is, well, let me tell you, I disagree with him.

00:37:46.680 I care.

00:37:47.760 I care.

00:37:48.160 You've now caught my attention, okay? 0.98

00:37:49.780 And common sense says to me that if any person was put in a seat and asked about their heritage and someone said, what do you think about these rumors that you aren't black, all you would do is start listing your relatives that are black and say how foolish it was. 0.96

00:38:04.260 And she's not doing that. 0.97

00:38:05.840 She's instead running Operation Gaslighting. 0.99

00:38:08.660 And, you know what, shame on those people.

00:38:10.080 Shame on Matt Barnes for not pushing her.

00:38:12.340 Put her feet to the fire.

00:38:13.300 You don't get to just mine black history and black pain to try to present yourself as the first black female presidential candidate. 0.99

00:38:23.800 It doesn't work like this.

00:38:25.240 It's completely unacceptable.

00:38:27.700 Nobody would have cared if you ran and you said, I am Indian Irish.

00:38:32.580 Not a single soul would have cared, okay?

00:38:35.120 You did this.

00:38:36.660 You did this.

00:38:37.520 And we're not going to let it go because nobody messes with Janet Jackson.

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00:39:36.800 All right, let's read some of your comments.

00:39:38.380 We're reading this from yesterday's episode because I have an event tonight, so I prerecorded this a couple of hours earlier.

00:39:43.640 This person, Tricia, writes,

00:39:44.780 At this point, Candice knows more about Kamala's heritage than probably Kamala herself.

00:39:49.460 I know.

00:39:50.140 Actually, what's funny is I obviously am slated to speak to that relative again, hopefully later today.

00:39:55.320 But I did, via text, ask, by the way, what do you think about the Jewish thing?

00:39:59.020 Like, is that actually, is that part true?

00:40:00.640 And he didn't say no to that.

00:40:02.420 So maybe he's just learning it.

00:40:04.020 Maybe he knows it.

00:40:04.640 Or maybe he's just learning it.

00:40:05.780 But I thought that was pretty interesting.

00:40:07.460 I probably literally do maybe know more than some of the relatives.

00:40:10.540 And maybe he's learning as he's watching this going.

00:40:12.380 I didn't even know this.

00:40:13.120 And yeah, why don't I know, like, who my brother's mom is?

00:40:15.920 Like, that is kind of weird.

00:40:17.140 Like, is there a secret that's being kept from me?

00:40:19.620 Yes, I could be, I really might be Maury.

00:40:21.560 I may be exploding family secrets at the moment.

00:40:23.960 But that's what happens when you run for president.

00:40:26.360 Nanny writes, Nangie, pardon, writes, these series about Kamala are so interesting.

00:40:31.160 As a former resident of Montreal, Canada for almost 30 years, I can assure you there was

00:40:35.220 nothing middle class about the neighborhood where she lived.

00:40:37.800 It's one of the most high-end neighborhoods of the city. 0.98

00:40:40.040 She's such a fraud. 1.00

00:40:41.400 Keep up the amazing research work.

00:40:43.260 May God protect you, Candice, your team and your family.

00:40:45.960 Yeah, I am really feeling some type of way about the level of fraud that she has aspired to here.

00:40:50.340 And like I said, when I was just going through those pictures and really understanding, getting

00:40:55.380 the full picture of how hard they tried to establish the legend of her blackness, I was

00:41:00.120 infuriated.

00:41:01.020 I was just like, no, this is not acceptable.

00:41:03.180 We have to have some ground rules here across party lines.

00:41:08.000 We have to agree.

00:41:08.540 I don't care if you're like a lefty that's scared about the environment and you want to

00:41:12.420 drive, you know, a car that's electric.

00:41:14.140 That's actually cool with me.

00:41:15.340 Like we can lock arms here as long as we can agree that this is unacceptable.

00:41:19.820 Like you cannot do this.

00:41:21.820 You cannot Ruby Bridget.

00:41:23.400 You just can't.

00:41:24.580 Happy Hearts writes, she could be mixed with hyena and some will still vote for her no matter 0.77

00:41:28.600 what.

00:41:28.920 It is true.

00:41:29.460 Some people are deluded and they're like, oh, she talks about collard greens.

00:41:32.660 That's black enough for me. 0.73

00:41:34.220 What?

00:41:34.920 She said it was in a bathtub.

00:41:36.420 What?

00:41:37.180 That actually doesn't even sound really sanitary to me if I'm being honest.

00:41:39.880 Imagine the skin.

00:41:41.320 Lynn writes, I wonder what Janet Jackson thinks right now.

00:41:44.140 She made a random comment about Kamala's race in an interview and now Candace turned into 1.00

00:41:48.140 an investigator.

00:41:49.220 Yeah, Janet Jackson, where are you at?

00:41:50.700 Reach out to me.

00:41:51.420 We'll have you on the show.

00:41:52.400 I would love to sit down and speak with you about what you said.

00:41:54.740 And I have your back.

00:41:55.680 I'm like, Randy, I have your back.

00:41:57.780 And the people that instantly tried to pretend that you were crazy rather than answering the

00:42:01.120 questions, it's not acceptable.

00:42:02.680 We're not allowing that to happen anymore.

00:42:03.960 They did it to your brother.

00:42:04.780 They're not going to do it to you.

00:42:06.120 Nina Gumbo writes, thank you for your journalism.

00:42:08.100 I am from Europe, but I am scared because whoever will be in charge of the United States, it will

00:42:11.480 affect all of us.

00:42:12.340 You are brave to tell the truth and we will be watching.

00:42:14.600 Thank you so much.

00:42:15.620 It is true.

00:42:16.460 America tends to cause that sort of ripple.

00:42:18.540 And this woman scares me. 0.83

00:42:19.760 I just, there's something about someone that can move that easily in and out of an identity

00:42:23.520 that should frighten all of us all across the world.

00:42:26.720 We should be frightened by it.

00:42:28.120 Billie Jolene writes, lastly, so she came from a wealthy family, but stresses that she grew

00:42:33.340 up middle class.

00:42:34.600 Bull.

00:42:35.140 Yeah.

00:42:35.740 Yeah.

00:42:35.920 She will say whatever it is that she has to say to secure the black vote. 0.92

00:42:40.080 And that is exactly why we must forcefully reject her. 0.86

00:42:44.040 Not just black Americans, white Americans as well.

00:42:46.080 You guys should be mad that she's denying your heritage. 0.97

00:42:48.180 Like what's so bad about being white?

00:42:50.380 I'm angry for both of us. 0.66

00:42:51.340 I'm angry for white people because there's nothing wrong with just saying that you are 1.00

00:42:55.060 Irish. 0.60

00:42:55.640 Okay.

00:42:55.860 There's nothing wrong with it.

00:42:57.140 I'm angry for black people because she does not get to Ruby Bridget. 1.00

00:43:00.740 Ladies and gentlemen, if you want to keep supporting this investigation, head to locals.com.

00:43:04.620 As I said, we're uploading documents there as we continue to look into everything.

00:43:09.360 Sadly, tomorrow will be the last day before we have to take a five-day break because I

00:43:12.940 am going overseas.

00:43:14.900 But it's okay because I have content for you, but it's just not going to be about Kamala.

00:43:19.020 But it allows me more time to research things.

00:43:21.060 So continue to email us at info at candaceowens.com or post things onto our locals page.

00:43:26.720 We can share, collaborate.

00:43:28.260 So many of you guys have presented so much information that we really couldn't have done

00:43:33.220 this without you.

00:43:34.100 So we'll see you tomorrow.

Candace Owens - October 03, 2024

I Spoke With Kamala's Uncle! ｜ Candace Ep 78

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