Candace Owens - I Survive My First Death Hoax, Erika Kirk Makes Human History. ｜ Ep 353

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, happy Monday. I hope all of the fathers out there had an amazing Father's Day weekend. All the dads that are actually good fathers, I should say. If you're a bum, you don't count. You have to do better. Anyway, I would like to formally announce at the top of the show that you guys were correct. I am with child. I'm expecting another child.

00:00:19.540 a lot of you guys had sussed that out genuinely within the first four weeks of my pregnancy.

00:00:26.680 I actually found out, I am not kidding, that I was pregnant from you guys. You guys were in the

00:00:32.520 comments. You were asking questions. You were like, Candice has a very unique attitude that

00:00:35.940 she's known to have when she's pregnant with a boy. It's kind of sus. I think she's pregnant.

00:00:40.640 Yes, you were correct. I learned from you. And then I found out that that is indeed the reason, 0.97

00:00:46.320 as it always is that I grow sort of increasingly violent when I am for something about

00:00:52.760 growing a boy inside of you that makes you want to aggress. That's how I feel. I don't understand

00:01:00.000 it, but I want to physically fight people. The more pregnant I become, I want to physically

00:01:04.120 fight people. There's something I can do about it. It's a condition. And yeah, a lot that we're 0.99

00:01:09.260 going to unpack today, but I wanted to get that done at the top of show, let you guys know that

00:01:12.200 you are really annoying for knowing first. I shouldn't be finding this out from the internet.

00:01:16.040 Who do you guys think you are?

00:01:17.100 Clearly, you know me better than I know myself.

00:01:19.460 Anyway, welcome back to Candace.

00:01:35.000 Okay, I also want to mention here that I was pregnant, truly a victim,

00:01:41.360 when my foot was broken and Cabot Phillips accosted me on the toddler playground.

00:01:45.520 never forget what Cabot Phillips did to me in my early pregnancy with a broken foot, accosted.

00:01:51.800 I'll never let it go, Cabot. I'll never let it go. Anyway, over this weekend, something else

00:01:56.440 happened. I was actually on Friday recording at Sean Ryan's studio, his podcast studio, and

00:02:03.120 he lives down the road from me, was having a good time, came out and realized, because he does the

00:02:08.560 long format podcast, I think like four hours, that there was a death hoax. And I had all of

00:02:13.240 these messages from people, my mom, my dad, my aunt, everyone that I know asking me to post a

00:02:19.180 sign of life because apparently there was this combo that some girl posted and then deleted

00:02:24.900 that I passed away. And then on top of that, there was some like obituary website that said that I

00:02:30.760 was going to die on Sunday. So listed my date of death as Sunday, which is totally crazy. I don't

00:02:37.080 know, I think people do these things to get into your head psychologically. I did not die this

00:02:43.740 weekend. People were then emailing me saying, don't go out on Sunday because this pre-obituary

00:02:49.240 exists. I did not slow down my weekend in any way at all. I just don't live in that, I guess,

00:02:55.320 that vein of fear because it's just unhealthy. And every day we get emails of people asking me,

00:03:00.420 don't go, don't travel, don't do this. I can't live in a cage. Bird can't fly in a cage.

00:03:05.740 So I did a lot of things this weekend, but dying was not one of them.

00:03:09.820 In fact, it's the opposite.

00:03:10.640 I'm growing life.

00:03:11.460 So be happy.

00:03:12.400 Smile.

00:03:12.760 It's great.

00:03:13.640 I did indeed, however, sit down with Sean Ryan for a very long interview, which will

00:03:18.460 be dropping soon and is sure to make a lot of heads explode because we covered everything.

00:03:23.200 I mean, from my background to my beliefs to Charlie's assassination, obviously, to his

00:03:28.460 widow.

00:03:29.680 Nothing was off limits because I never give people any limits when they interview me.

00:03:32.640 I'm an open book.

00:03:33.440 That's what I'm doing here on the podcast.

00:03:35.360 I will say, however, that he seemed a little bit surprised to learn that his one-time guest,

00:03:40.720 Brian Harpole, is suing me and extraordinarily trying to spin this tale in the courts

00:03:46.820 that the only reason he was forced to go on the Sean Ryan show,

00:03:51.140 thereby making him a limited public figure, was because of me and my harassment,

00:03:56.060 despite the fact that I never uttered his name before he went on the Sean Ryan show

00:04:00.060 and had that disaster of an interview.

00:04:02.200 So it'll be interesting to see if Sean Ryan ends up in this lawsuit

00:04:04.440 because they have a totally different memory

00:04:05.900 of how he ended up on that show.

00:04:07.660 Interesting.

00:04:08.780 Liars lie all the time and get caught.

00:04:11.240 But something else very curious happened, okay?

00:04:15.020 I gotta tell you this.

00:04:15.820 It's always the production team

00:04:18.320 that you wanna talk to when you do these sorts of things.

00:04:20.860 They know things.

00:04:21.860 They have secrets.

00:04:23.580 Never underestimate the producer, the cameraman,

00:04:26.080 the control room, the lighting director.

00:04:27.960 They see and they hear everything.

00:04:30.500 They're basically intel everywhere, okay?

00:04:33.620 And I always make small chat with that.

00:04:35.520 You know, just like, hey, who are you from?

00:04:37.060 I just like to know who everybody is.

00:04:38.340 And he had a really fantastic team, by the way, like really just had it together.

00:04:42.740 But they did tell me something that was frankly disturbing.

00:04:46.700 OK, so Sean Ryan has this really amazing like his studio.

00:04:50.460 You don't get the full effect of it on his show.

00:04:52.160 It's basically like a museum.

00:04:53.860 And so people want to contribute to the museum.

00:04:56.460 He's got all sorts of artifacts.

00:04:58.440 I can't even begin to describe it because I feel like I wouldn't do it any justice of

00:05:01.700 people who have lived through certain things or survived things, various missions, a lot of

00:05:06.560 military stuff. And they get it over to him and he puts it up in the museum. Well, someone on the

00:05:14.480 team, on Sean Ryan's team, told me that after seeing this museum, Brian Harpole wanted to

00:05:21.140 contribute to it. And he offered Sean Ryan Charlie Kirk's blood on his bag as a gift.

00:05:29.660 so you know the the cross body purse purse looking thing like i said this is like it wasn't a man

00:05:36.520 purse it was his like i don't know one of the things he's suing me over because i described it

00:05:40.640 accurately the cross body bag and then he went to charlie after charlie got hit

00:05:48.720 he offered that bag with the blood still on it to sean ryan and it was declined for obvious reasons

00:05:59.360 because it's weird to offer that to somebody as a gift.

00:06:02.920 Who would want that?

00:06:03.780 Why would you offer that?

00:06:05.020 It's very strange.

00:06:07.220 I need to share that.

00:06:07.980 I need to get that off my chest.

00:06:09.800 Second thing that they said,

00:06:11.520 which was kind of just in passing

00:06:12.760 that I thought was strange,

00:06:13.820 was that sometime after Brian Harple's interview,

00:06:16.380 they almost interviewed Eric Kirk.

00:06:18.240 They were in communication, rather.

00:06:20.300 They were in discussion, conversation

00:06:21.900 to potentially interview Eric Kirk.

00:06:23.860 Not weird.

00:06:24.560 She did do a bunch of interviews, obviously.

00:06:26.480 She was promoting Charlie's book.

00:06:27.760 What I thought was odd was that they were in communication to book that with Terrell Farnsworth, the guy who announced on camera that Charlie was dead, the guy who took down the camera, the guy who runs the audiovisual company. I'm like, why would he be doing any bookings for Erica? That's very strange. It's actually very interesting why the audiovisual guy would be involved in bookings at all.

00:06:54.460 Remember, we explored this question of when did Erica and Terrell get so close?

00:06:59.720 When did they get to know each other?

00:07:00.840 If you watched our series, Bride of Charlie, you know that the Farnsworth family clan, 0.68

00:07:06.840 it's a bit like a little deep Mormon mafia, you know, grew up with Tyler Boyer's family,

00:07:13.840 Chandler, Arizona. 1.00

00:07:14.820 They all went to high school together, thickest thieves, so to speak.

00:07:17.920 and Eddie Farnsworth and his brother

00:07:21.020 were one of the ones who brought Lori Fransfey

00:07:24.380 into those government contracts in Arizona.

00:07:26.720 This is before Erica met Charlie.

00:07:29.280 This means Erica and the Farnsworth family,

00:07:31.660 Tyler Boyer, their relationships

00:07:33.320 predate Erica's relationship with Charlie.

00:07:36.060 That is a fact.

00:07:37.220 That is literally recorded

00:07:38.540 if you look into the Arizona congressional files.

00:07:41.320 You can see Lori presenting on the House floor

00:07:45.440 with her second husband, Larry Ginta,

00:07:49.580 actually third husband, Larry Ginta,

00:07:51.420 and Erica's stepfather.

00:07:53.240 This is just a fact.

00:07:54.660 So something that's interesting is,

00:07:57.040 in case you don't know this,

00:07:58.080 Turning Point's campus has six buildings in total.

00:08:00.980 We're not giving you anything that's not available

00:08:03.060 through a quick Google search.

00:08:04.720 It's on Google Maps.

00:08:06.140 And Charlie's building,

00:08:07.820 the one that his podcast functions out of,

00:08:11.260 it has his podcasting team, Colvett's team,

00:08:14.900 and it used to have Terrell Farnsworth's team upstairs.

00:08:19.000 But in mid-July, so shortly before Charlie's assassination,

00:08:22.660 he had Terrell's team kicked out of the office of his building.

00:08:28.920 Why? I'm not sure.

00:08:29.820 I don't know if it was because they were angry.

00:08:32.100 I don't know what was going through Charlie's head.

00:08:34.120 But he had been there for a while and then he had them moved.

00:08:36.660 On July 24th, Terrell's team at Charlie's request was removed from the building.

00:08:41.680 Now, I'm entering in that data point in case it's relevant down the line.

00:08:45.940 What we know is that, oddly, he was immediately welcomed back into the building following Charlie's death.

00:08:54.220 We know this because Terrell is the one that is standing behind Erica during her first Zoom call to the team.

00:09:00.020 The six days after Charlie was assassinated, she's not in bed crying.

00:09:04.820 She's at the office in the Charlie Kirk building.

00:09:07.300 And it is Terrell that is standing behind her.

00:09:10.000 Here's a still photo from that moment, just to remind you, you can see that person in the corner.

00:09:15.580 That's Terrell. That's the camera guy. The fam is back together.

00:09:19.700 Terrell Farnsworth, in my view, was not just suddenly shadowing Charlie on these little college campus events because they were trying something new, as he said.

00:09:30.900 In my opinion, his new presence always has disturbed me.

00:09:35.720 his reaction to Charlie dying obviously disturbing his excuses thereafter for why he rushed

00:09:42.020 to take specifically the SD card out from the camera behind Charlie's head always disturbed me

00:09:48.800 right I've never never ever ever thought he was telling the truth um I spoke to Erica I didn't

00:09:55.260 want her to relive Charlie dying that's what he said then we find out that there was nothing gory

00:10:00.740 on that particular film because the bullet didn't go through so that's that's actually

00:10:05.300 what they were hiding, in my opinion. The entire thing, his presence feels off, okay? Just feels

00:10:12.540 off to me. And when we look into the team that Terrell brought that day, I just don't like it.

00:10:17.560 I don't like that we were recently able to identify, as we did, Philip Goldsberry. I've

00:10:24.860 also, by the way, identified who one of the ops were from back home. Remember I told you there

00:10:31.520 apparently some ops who were watching the live stream, I've been able to verify one name, okay?

00:10:39.120 And I'm going to pull up this graphic and tell you about this Visual Impulse team, okay? So we

00:10:43.060 know Terrell, he's there at the top. Brian Farnsworth is his brother. Philip Goldsberry,

00:10:49.320 Jr., we told you about him. His father is the pastor who, of course, started a charity,

00:10:55.260 Global Ministries in Romania, because why wouldn't he? Everybody's doing that. Everybody's helping

00:10:59.900 the orphans in Romania. That's what everybody does here. This person, Parker Edwards, who we don't

00:11:06.740 have a photo that we thought was appropriate to show because it showed his entire family.

00:11:10.900 But Parker Edwards, we just dug into this guy and it turns out that he went to the same high school

00:11:17.660 as Terrell Farnsworth. This is like they all know each other. They all graduated from the same high

00:11:22.740 school. Their families are families. They had been friends for years. He effectively grew up with the

00:11:27.720 Farnsworth clan. And so that's interesting that he's there on the ground that day. Also, his

00:11:34.440 brother, Aaron Edwards, worked for Visual Impulse as well, went to the same high school, also went

00:11:39.720 to Arizona State University. They all know each other. And the Farnsworth is a very powerful

00:11:45.400 family, powerful Mormon family. And then there's this guy, Robert Golo, who I would like to know

00:11:52.040 more about okay he was brought on i am told of course after i stopped touring with charlie

00:11:57.820 when they started doing the redundancy of the microphone in 2024 he's actually from liberia

00:12:04.720 and then moved to arizona has been working uh in you know obviously in audio and visual he's been

00:12:14.460 the guy behind the camera he's the guy standing next to terrell when charlie uh gets hit which i

00:12:19.840 will now be saying. I'm not going to say shot because that doesn't feel right to me. But he's

00:12:24.040 the one that's next to him. And then he runs off and he was a new hire, so to speak, within the

00:12:31.420 year before Charlie died. And so I would just like to know more about him because we do have a lot of

00:12:35.840 fans in Africa. Maybe people know more. He has never spoken out about what he saw. He kind of

00:12:42.000 went away. I think he is still working in some capacity with Turning Point USA. But if you know

00:12:46.280 anything about Robert Golo and his involvement, we would love to hear from you. More tips at

00:12:50.680 CandaceOwens.com. Every detail matters. Now, we told you guys that the Mike Explosion Theory,

00:12:57.800 in our view, has infinitely more evidence. It offers infinitely more sensible explanations

00:13:03.620 for all the odd things that took place that day. We put together that list for you from them not

00:13:08.100 bringing the bomb dogs over to that area, quickly paving over the crime scene, the shattered what

00:13:13.780 looks like abs glass that's in the back of the or plastic that's in the back of the car we also

00:13:20.320 forgot to include something else that we can now add to our growing list of things that suddenly

00:13:24.600 make sense when we consider that it was a shaped charge with a pet an explosive uh packed into it

00:13:31.540 right shaped charge i i think the best way to think of it if you can't comprehend it it's almost

00:13:36.520 like a firework. Like you can direct it up and it explodes, but you can't like perfectly direct it

00:13:44.060 and say hit right here. Anyway, one of the other bizarre things that took place is that the people

00:13:49.660 who immediately testified after Charlie got hit said that they saw Charlie get shot in the chest.

00:13:59.720 It was one of the things that we actually covered almost immediately after the shooting on this show

00:14:04.020 was that many of the people who spoke to the news

00:14:06.580 were all bizarrely somehow politically connected.

00:14:10.320 So we started profiling these people

00:14:12.300 and we found out this person, Tiffany Barker,

00:14:16.240 I think was one of the names.

00:14:17.200 Actually, she was working on Phil Lyman's campaign.

00:14:20.080 Phil Lyman was out there testifying.

00:14:21.760 Everything just felt weird and organized.

00:14:24.960 And so we covered it.

00:14:26.440 And we forgot that many people were saying

00:14:29.040 that Charlie got hit in the chest.

00:14:30.600 It was almost like they didn't look.

00:14:32.080 It was very obvious where he got hit.

00:14:33.060 anybody who looked at him. So why why did they suddenly run to cameras and say that they saw

00:14:37.640 Charlie get hit in the chest? Right. Never, never an answer for that. I want you guys to take a

00:14:45.280 listen to these people who tried to convincingly sell that he got hit in the chest. I heard a loud

00:14:52.860 bang, which I figured a shot would be a little bit louder, but I just saw it hit him in the chest.

00:14:58.480 and then all of a sudden just tons of blood gushing right out where his heart is and then

00:15:03.380 he like fell over and slumped down and everybody got down and was screaming and then we all ran

00:15:07.780 it was a direct shot to the heart it looked like right where his heart is it started going red he

00:15:12.620 fell back and went to his side then i looked down at the crowd it looked like the crowd they all went

00:15:18.120 to their knees really fast when i heard the first gunshot go off all of a sudden i just saw

00:15:23.040 an eruption of blood, you know, come out of Charlie's chest and then kind of his whole

00:15:28.500 body recoil and go limp. And, and, uh, and basically everybody just screamed and fell

00:15:34.620 to the floor. Before you knew what a stock was, you traded snacks, cards, turns. That instinct

00:15:41.160 to trade didn't disappear. It just grew up with no minimums, no monthly fees and a hundred free

00:15:46.760 trades. TD Easy Trade taps into that instinct because you are made to trade and TD Easy Trade

00:15:52.920 is made to help.

00:15:57.520 Ladies and gentlemen,

00:15:58.700 they are not guessing.

00:16:00.140 They are providing

00:16:00.900 a description

00:16:02.700 that never happened.

00:16:04.300 It never happened.

00:16:06.100 There was never

00:16:06.620 a pooling of blood

00:16:07.940 near Charlie's heart.

00:16:10.420 Never happened.

00:16:12.260 It was very obvious

00:16:12.900 if you were anywhere near

00:16:14.000 where Charlie got hit

00:16:15.080 and actually

00:16:15.660 it came out sideways,

00:16:17.680 the blood came out sideways

00:16:18.720 and I hate to be graphic

00:16:19.860 and describe that

00:16:20.420 but it's important

00:16:20.960 to remember that

00:16:21.660 and we all saw the video.

00:16:22.920 okay? And I told you his shirt was clean. And yet they described that as if it was pre-planned

00:16:30.020 for them to go out there. I'm going to investigate these people who came out here and said this

00:16:33.320 right near his heart. I told you my theory is that the shape charge was intended to hit his chest,

00:16:39.440 but something went wrong because a shape charge, like I said, can be directed, but it is not an

00:16:43.820 exact science. I do not think they ever intended for the shot to be public. I don't think they

00:16:49.760 ever intended for it to hit his neck. I think his mic, the second redundant mic was rigged and it

00:16:56.800 was meant to hit his chest. He was wearing a white shirt. Those descriptions were meant to make sense

00:17:01.620 because they are the instant ones that came out. They're speaking to NBC News, a pooling of blood

00:17:07.500 around his heart. You never saw that, sir. How did you get on NBC News? I'm going to find out.

00:17:12.560 I'm going to find out who these people are. Because that is way too specific. They are providing

00:17:19.100 false witness intentionally. And then I think they had to pivot because actually the shaped charge

00:17:26.160 accidentally, as opposed to hitting his chest and causing that 30-06 diameter, as would happen

00:17:33.980 with a pet and explosives, as we've demonstrated to you in the past, it accidentally, because of

00:17:39.020 how Charlie was crouched, went up and hit his neck. And that ruined everything. That ruined

00:17:47.860 everything. It was problematic. It's the reason why Terrell then had to scramble to get the cameras

00:17:52.720 down because they were never supposed to see it. They could have said reasonably that a 30-06

00:17:59.040 got eaten by Charlie, much more reasonably, obviously, than saying that the chicken bones

00:18:06.900 in his neck stopped it because he ate vegetables. They panicked. That was what then, that's why

00:18:15.680 Terrell's nervous from the phone with me. Again, this is my theory and I am now very much sticking

00:18:19.580 to it. Okay. They panicked. It's the reason Erica had to step out once. That's why she would have

00:18:25.920 gotten on the phone with Terrell so quickly because I was going, why is Terrell saying,

00:18:30.280 well, I didn't want Erica to relive. Oh, that's why I did it. He didn't have an answer. He was

00:18:33.040 nervous. It was crazy. But he acknowledged that he spoke to Erica immediately. Why did you speak

00:18:37.980 to Erica immediately? Why would you bother a quote unquote grieving widow with the nonsense 0.99

00:18:45.460 of a camera behind his head that shows nothing.

00:18:47.740 Why did you jump specifically to grab that camera's SD card

00:18:51.280 and then lie and say,

00:18:52.800 Andrew Colvett, people were stealing stuff.

00:18:56.460 Buddy, we have eyes.

00:18:57.680 We saw you take specifically the SD card

00:18:59.580 and you left the camera, which is more expensive.

00:19:04.660 They panicked.

00:19:06.260 I believe this.

00:19:07.380 They panicked big time

00:19:09.300 because the plan did not go as expected.

00:19:14.020 in my opinion.

00:19:15.820 I have not seen any convincing evidence to the contrary.

00:19:19.120 And now that I comprehend how a shape charge works,

00:19:22.180 and I am now receiving emails from people telling me

00:19:24.780 that at Fort Huachuca,

00:19:27.200 they could have put together this rigged mic.

00:19:29.540 I'm trying to comprehend what they said.

00:19:31.220 They said they have a department that works in signals

00:19:33.180 and I am communicating with people

00:19:36.040 who know more about that.

00:19:38.420 But if I find out they assemble things like this

00:19:41.260 at Fort Huachuca,

00:19:42.020 things are going to get a lot more interesting. Anyway, back to the grieving widow. Now her story

00:19:51.140 has adapted a lot. She lies. Erica lies. Erica is a liar. She lied to my face. I get to right 0.50

00:19:57.040 say that. She lied to me. She lied to you. She lied to everybody when she said Andrew went rogue. 1.00

00:20:01.100 Good on you, Andrew. What a gentleman to take that heat, having people calling you stupid 1.00

00:20:04.920 and just pretending you went rogue when in reality you were cluding with Erica to present 1.00

00:20:09.940 this Superman, Superman of Steel lie

00:20:12.200 because Charlie ate veggies.

00:20:14.680 Some credit, a little bit due to you.

00:20:17.300 But because I think of our public pressure

00:20:19.340 following the release of the doctored footage

00:20:21.920 of Charlie Kirk appointing her to the position of CEO,

00:20:24.640 her story that she sat down planned and told Megyn Kelly,

00:20:27.920 you could see, as we showed you

00:20:29.920 in that absurd Daily Mail article,

00:20:32.140 that the story was beginning to shift, right?

00:20:33.600 Suddenly it was the footage never really mattered.

00:20:36.180 Everyone knew that was Charlie's plan

00:20:38.040 for her to assume the position.

00:20:40.200 Even though he never put it in his will, we all knew that that was the master plan.

00:20:46.420 Well, Erica is no longer speaking about the Aspen event.

00:20:48.840 I think they'd like very much to move on from the Aspen event because liars lie all the time.

00:20:53.800 And she's now talking about the plan.

00:20:57.020 There was always this plan that nobody was privy to. 0.99

00:21:00.600 If you were listening to Charlie's lips and the words coming out of them, it was very clear that women should not become the CEO of any company under any situation.

00:21:09.240 even if their husbands are alive but apparently there was privately a discussion where he said 0.81

00:21:14.840 but if i get killed i want you to do it and she recently went to illinois to lie through her teeth

00:21:23.480 i'm going to prove to you she lied through her teeth she was like some educator summit and here 0.77

00:21:28.360 is what she had to say the the newer story now about her stepping into the 80 hour a week position

00:21:34.340 formerly occupied by her husband as the CEO and chairman of a quarter-billion-dollar organization.

00:21:42.200 She's going to ramble a bit, as people tend to do when they're spinning tails. 1.00

00:21:45.240 She's also going to give an evil look for no reason. 1.00

00:21:47.860 Take a listen.

00:21:49.180 I am so grateful that Charlie had me involved in literally as much as possible

00:21:54.480 with Turning Point USA, TPUSA Faith, other programs within the Turning Point USA umbrella.

00:22:01.300 so much so to that to the point when everything happened I didn't I there was a zero percent

00:22:08.180 learning curve here so I didn't walk into the to the office for the first time being like wow this

00:22:14.520 is what is this place there's six buildings but before all of this I used to take the kids to the

00:22:20.920 office pretty much daily sometimes since because like Gigi would have dance class and stuff like

00:22:26.560 that every other day whatever but I would bring them in because I wanted them to see daddy would

00:22:31.200 doing his radio show. I wanted them to be able to see running around the offices having fun and

00:22:36.260 making friends with some of the employees because they would give them gifts. Like it was a family

00:22:40.480 and it still is a family. And that's the way that the organization is always operated. And so when

00:22:45.960 it came to the moments after everything happened, I didn't look at the room and say, Hutz, who are

00:22:53.240 you. I didn't. I knew all of them by name. I know a vast majority of our staff by name. I know their

00:23:01.400 families. I know their backgrounds. I know their what programs they're working on.

00:23:07.660 And we actually cut out the part that I wanted to also show of her saying that her and Charlie

00:23:11.480 had these conversations. I don't know if you can pull it. I'd like I'd like the further the longer

00:23:15.340 clip of her talking about how her and Charlie works together. And they had the private conversations

00:23:20.440 where she does that like evil look to the side.

00:23:22.340 So try to find that while I'm speaking about

00:23:25.220 even what she's saying,

00:23:26.040 because this part is important too.

00:23:27.640 So two things I'd like to say is,

00:23:29.180 the first thing is that obviously

00:23:30.140 she's lying through her teeth.

00:23:31.440 Just from a common sense perspective,

00:23:32.900 she's lying through her teeth because,

00:23:34.320 and we didn't show you this part, but we will.

00:23:36.260 She's going to talk about how her and Charlie

00:23:38.360 always spoke about it.

00:23:39.640 She talks about the plan.

00:23:41.280 She says there's no daylight between us, okay?

00:23:44.100 And like I said, we'll show you this clip.

00:23:47.120 You had private discussions.

00:23:48.480 There was no daylight between you.

00:23:49.940 he was telling you everything that was happening every single day and you knew how every department

00:23:53.900 was operating as an quote-unquote emergency plan. She's lying. Okay, I said she's lying so badly

00:24:01.540 it should frustrate you that she's even attempting it because it's almost an historically asinine lie. 0.70

00:24:07.880 I actually turned to my producer and I said she has to actually be the first woman in the entire

00:24:14.620 world, in the history of the world, since Sumerian civilization that has taken over her husband's 0.60

00:24:23.060 corporate position as CEO and chairman after he died. I would actually just bet that off the top

00:24:29.320 because that's common sense. This doesn't happen ever, like literally ever. So we asked ChatGPT,

00:24:35.300 where are the women that do this? This is so normal and we're all crazy for realizing that 1.00

00:24:39.400 this is not normal at all. And here is what ChatGPT came up with, okay? First, they give us

00:24:45.620 Ellen Gordon, okay? Oh, okay, so great. She took over Tootsie Roll Industries after her husband,

00:24:51.040 Melvin Gordon, died. But actually, no, not mentioned is the fact that it was her family's

00:24:56.580 company. They had a controlling interest in the company, and then her husband was brought in.

00:25:03.040 She was already working there for years while he was alive, first as the vice president of

00:25:07.620 product development. Then she went on to become the senior vice president. Then finally, she became

00:25:12.700 the president and the chief operating officer of the company, again, that her family owned the

00:25:18.260 controlling interest in, in a position that she maintained until she died. So she just wore one

00:25:22.100 more hat, effectively, after he died. And it was her family's company. The second example they gave

00:25:26.360 us was Catherine Meyer Graham. I said, okay, maybe there is one. Well, actually, the second one they

00:25:32.100 gave us is Erica Kirk, which is hilarious. The third example they gave us, they just threw in a

00:25:37.200 contrast, so it's not an example. It says, actually, GM did not appoint a spouse after a CEO's death.

00:25:44.300 This is common in large corporations. By contrast, spouse succession is more common in founder-led

00:25:51.000 or family-controlled organizations. And they gave us Catherine Graham, okay? Catherine Meyer Graham,

00:25:56.380 sure enough, she did take over for her husband, Philip Graham, as the publisher of the Washington

00:26:00.460 Post after he died. But again, it doesn't count because actually it was her family's company.

00:26:08.160 Her father had purchased the Washington Post out of bankruptcy. He was the head of the Federal

00:26:13.520 Reserve. And then he said, you're my daughter's husband. You should run the company. And then

00:26:21.460 when he died, she took over her family's company as the publisher. Eugene Meyer was her father,

00:26:28.700 like I said, who purchased Washington Post right out of bankruptcy. So no. And oh, and by the way,

00:26:34.900 she had a background herself in publishing and in writing and went to school for writing and

00:26:40.180 worked at magazines. This we could not. And I kept looking, I mean, strenuously. We could not

00:26:46.100 find a single example in human history where someone's wife just assumed their corporate role

00:26:54.300 as CEO and chairman of their company following a death,

00:26:57.180 not even an assassination, just a death.

00:26:59.420 Generally speaking, we challenge you to go out there

00:27:01.600 and find the woman who did this,

00:27:04.340 especially as a stay-at-home wife

00:27:05.640 who knows nothing about the company.

00:27:07.200 Erica is just pretending that she's involved, okay?

00:27:10.400 Miriam Adelson could have been the closest example. 0.97

00:27:13.480 She came up on a list 1.00

00:27:14.560 because she took over Sheldon's casino gambling business,

00:27:18.140 it said, when he died in 2021,

00:27:20.220 but that also was not accurate

00:27:21.620 because it was actually them together

00:27:24.440 that had a controlling interest.

00:27:26.740 It's a publicly traded company

00:27:28.020 and she simply inherited his shares, right?

00:27:31.200 In his will, I should mention,

00:27:33.140 as the proper beneficiary of his shares,

00:27:35.940 his wife, who he was together with for decades.

00:27:39.480 And no, she's not the CEO.

00:27:41.140 She never was the CEO.

00:27:42.260 And I don't think Mary Madelson wants to be the CEO.

00:27:44.280 And I should say that this is exclusively

00:27:49.180 now a human history feat that has been accomplished by Erica Kirk alone, who happens to be, by far, 0.97

00:27:56.720 when you weigh her against all the women that I just named, the dumbest and least accomplished 0.98

00:28:00.500 person out of all of them. Okay, Erica can't get through a speech that's pre-written without a 0.99

00:28:04.660 blunder, without saying something ridiculous. Everything she says is managed. She has no 0.96

00:28:08.800 background in anything. No, she was not at the office every day. She's a liar. She lies about

00:28:14.080 everything. I was genuinely shocked to hear those words come out of her mouth because I speak to

00:28:21.000 everybody, my people inside, people who have been fired at the company. And one of the things they

00:28:25.960 kept complaining about was that Erica doesn't know anybody. She doesn't know anything. She 0.97

00:28:30.000 doesn't even know their names. And that was becoming a sticking point for a lot of these

00:28:35.200 people. You remember even when Aubrey got fired, she had said to Andrew Colvett, nobody knows who

00:28:41.240 she is. You want my honest opinion about her? People do talk about her because we don't know

00:28:45.100 who she is. Past and current employees were positively astonished by the lie that Erica

00:28:52.140 is saying that she already knew everybody. And you don't have to take it from past employees

00:28:57.660 or future employees or current employees because Erica herself admitted this. She forgot. She has

00:29:03.700 bad memory. That's why you shouldn't lie unless you have a great memory. You shouldn't lie at all.

00:29:07.420 But if you're going to lie, you should have a really good memory. She herself admitted

00:29:10.660 after the Super Bowl. She jumped on the call to thank everybody and to say that she was looking

00:29:15.900 forward to learning their names because now the kids are at the office and the kids come home

00:29:20.900 with stories and the kids now know the names of the employees. And she said she was looking forward

00:29:24.840 to spending time and learning the names of all the employees. Take a listen. I'm going to be

00:29:31.620 doing something kind of like a lunch with your department style thing because it is on my heart

00:29:38.000 so badly i would love to sit down with each and every one of you individually i i want to know

00:29:43.500 your name your face like be able to pray for you guys and and really just know you and so since i

00:29:51.320 can't do individually just yet um because that would be a long uh day and time and month and

00:29:59.040 year to do that i'm gonna be um conjoining it through departments so we can make them very

00:30:04.660 small and intimate, maybe three people at a time and have lunch with you guys just to

00:30:08.420 hear your heart and hear your stories about Charlie, to be honest with you. That would be

00:30:13.100 amazing. And your memories with him. Erica just said she didn't know the employees.

00:30:20.760 It would take her months. She literally says, I want to know your names. I want to know what

00:30:23.800 you're working on. She's on that stage saying the exact opposite. She's a liar. She lies all the

00:30:29.240 time. And we just have to just take it. We just have to take it. She just gaslights and they keep

00:30:33.880 going. And anyways, he's cued it up now to the point that I was talking about earlier, where she

00:30:38.840 even suggests that this was like some conversation Charlie and her were having privately, and he just

00:30:42.920 could not memorialize this in a will. He was so brilliant, but this one thing he never memorialized

00:30:48.100 in a will, you would think he would, given it went against everything he ever stated publicly about

00:30:53.160 women in the workforce, but here it is. And we, just like anyone else, I mean, we always, we had

00:31:00.580 an emergency plan um which obviously never thought would have to be executed on but um it's one of

00:31:09.000 those things where we obviously have had the conversation of god forbid if something happens

00:31:13.060 to you or myself what's the plan um we were not we were not foreign to death threats or

00:31:21.000 i personally got rape threats we have kidnapping threats like we're not it's not something that's

00:31:26.460 foreign to us so it was a conversation that needed to be had and of course it's uncomfortable

00:31:30.300 But life is life.

00:31:32.300 Life is short.

00:31:33.680 It's good to know that you have a plan.

00:31:36.340 So all along, Charlie and I, we confided in the team.

00:31:41.780 It was not a, it wasn't an unknown thing.

00:31:45.260 God forbid if something happened, this is the route we're going to take.

00:31:49.040 I am so grateful that Charlie had me involved in literally as much as possible with Turning Point USA,

00:31:56.060 TPUSA Faith, other programs within the Turning Point USA umbrella. So much so to the point when

00:32:03.800 everything happened. Okay, now we can come out of it. Again, she never even thinks through common

00:32:10.480 sense. Okay, so for everyone who is married out there, okay, what she's saying about if something

00:32:16.400 ever happens to us or one of us, that's a conversation people have. That's actually the

00:32:21.740 reason they established wills. It's the very reason they established wills. In no relationship

00:32:27.840 ever. Go play this game. Go out. Does anybody say, I want to make sure you step into my role

00:32:34.980 at work? Nor do people generally know every bit of what their husband or wife is working on at work.

00:32:41.740 Okay? My husband and I run a business together. I can't tell you what his day-to-day looks like.

00:32:47.740 If your husband goes to work, I was just saying to Scott, I'm like, could you imagine if your wife

00:32:51.560 was just like, oh, I knew exactly. I can just do the job. I can be an executive producer. He told 0.55

00:32:56.740 me everything. I knew the ins and the outs. That's actually not normal. That's not normal. And she's

00:33:01.600 lying. She was not at that office every day. She did not know their names. And she admitted herself

00:33:07.380 in the audio that I just played to you that she did not know their names and she needed to spend

00:33:11.520 time getting to know everybody's faces, their names and what they were working on. So why does

00:33:15.940 she lie so easily? Again, this is her new story now. Forget Aspen. They want everybody to forget

00:33:21.020 Aspen in the doctored footage. They want to move on from that. And now it's, well, the whole team

00:33:24.540 knew this plan. This was the plan. We just didn't put, Charlie didn't put it on paper, but it was

00:33:29.760 the plan for me to become the first woman in human history, forget breaking the glass, shattering the

00:33:34.480 glass ceiling, ever in the history of the world to take over her husband's role as CEO and chairman,

00:33:42.260 having had nothing to do with the company except for helping out with faith, TPUSA faith, bringing 0.96

00:33:47.680 on the crappy pastors who lie about everything. That's Erica's accomplishment. The relationships 0.95

00:33:53.660 of people like Victor Marks and Rob McCoy, even in her little minute contribution, she

00:34:01.000 failed. She failed. Everything that she brought forth to Turning Point USA that she was attached

00:34:06.320 to and in Charlie's final presentation, which runs two and a half hours long, he doesn't

00:34:10.260 say Erica is involved in everything because she's lying. He says one sentence, Erica helps

00:34:15.180 out with faith. That's it, because that's all she did. How does she do it? How does she do it?

00:34:21.860 Outside of being a psychopath, there's no other way that she can do it. No other woman has tried 1.00

00:34:26.100 to pull this off in human history. That's all I'm saying. We'll be right back after a quick break. 0.87

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00:36:58.060 All right, let's check in on some of Erica's pastors for contribution to Turning Point USA.

00:37:03.140 You guys are in luck, actually, because today we have another installment of our Smash series.

00:37:07.600 Whose Pastor Is This?, where we show you clips of a Sunday sermon and try to figure out who in

00:37:13.840 America is actually spending their Sunday listening to this individual on stage preach at them. And

00:37:20.360 today's is extra special because it's Rob McCoy, Pastor Rob McCoy, Mikey McCoy's daddy. He brought

00:37:27.660 down the house this Sunday. Maybe it was past Sunday. I don't know. At Encounter Church in

00:37:32.500 Vegas, you know, holy city of Vegas.

00:37:34.920 And I want to thank the ex-user Alley Top Files for putting this on my radar.

00:37:39.200 That's how I saw it.

00:37:40.920 Anyway, you imagine you get to church, you're fired up, you're ready to hear the good word.

00:37:47.000 Pastor McCoy, take it away.

00:37:49.680 Candace doesn't have any receipts. 1.00

00:37:52.000 And it's a carnal Christian soap opera. 1.00

00:37:54.680 And you're suckered into it. 1.00

00:37:56.060 She's making $800,000 a week.

00:37:59.140 And you're attacking a widow.

00:38:01.260 Wow.

00:38:02.500 on innuendo supposition wow speculation and it's shameful when you should be caring for a widow

00:38:12.260 i don't understand it she's gonna go bankrupt this next one with charlie's chief of security

00:38:22.100 brian this she's done but here's the thing we ended the salem witch trials in 1692 in america

00:38:29.520 And it was a minister who ended them.

00:38:31.140 His name was Increase Mather.

00:38:33.440 And they had murdered 19 people. 0.66

00:38:36.680 And you know why they did it?

00:38:37.820 They had spectral evidence.

00:38:39.620 You know what spectral evidence is?

00:38:41.100 I had a dream.

00:38:42.580 Charlie spoke to me.

00:38:44.120 Sound familiar?

00:38:45.640 Hello? 0.99

00:38:47.220 Some of you don't want to nod because you've been watching that garbage. 0.95

00:38:51.700 I had a dream. 0.94

00:38:53.920 Spectral evidence was outlawed because the scripture said two or three witnesses.

00:38:59.500 Two or three witnesses.

00:39:02.680 Not him coming at his congregants. 1.00

00:39:05.560 Some of you don't want to nod because you've been watching this garbage. 0.98

00:39:07.920 No, they don't want to nod because this is the last time they're going to show up to this church. 0.97

00:39:12.280 How? Please walk me through it.

00:39:14.520 How does someone go on Sunday and hear a pastor just speaking about Candace Owens?

00:39:21.340 The lie that he is telling there.

00:39:23.780 $800,000 a week on my show.

00:39:27.120 you can't just be out there saying stuff like that. Even X had to clock him on the lie. Like,

00:39:33.240 no, he just wildly exaggerated that. It's kind of like his Mikey had blood all over him because

00:39:38.360 they just lie. It's just crazy. $800,000 a week. I told my team, if we were making $800K a week,

00:39:46.560 I'd buy them all Bentleys. I don't even like Bentleys. I think it's kind of an ugly car.

00:39:50.040 Maybe like Range Rovers, it looks better, but Bentley like sounds more expensive or whatever.

00:39:53.800 So I'd get them all Bentleys if that was the case.

00:39:56.440 He's just saying stuff.

00:39:58.420 How do people attend these churches

00:40:00.900 and think that they have anything to do with God?

00:40:04.920 It's amazing to me.

00:40:06.140 He's talking about my lawsuits.

00:40:08.320 Who got up that morning and was like,

00:40:10.780 let me make a church.

00:40:12.940 I wanna feel, I wanna go into the day with,

00:40:17.040 go into the week with the energy.

00:40:18.420 I wanna hear the New Testament.

00:40:21.380 I don't know.

00:40:21.780 who walks into that church and leaves feeling spiritually renewed? Who? Send me an email. I

00:40:30.160 need to know who the congregants are who sat there and listened to him riff about Brian Harpole

00:40:35.140 suing Candace Owens and let's feeling anything other than like, oh, I got to go. I got to find

00:40:42.760 a new church. Maybe I'm going to become Catholic. Yeah, I love this, by the way. I wish him every

00:40:48.620 stage. I wish him to lie all across America. I want him to go on tour. I love Erica's very many

00:40:54.180 pastors. I love Victor Marks, who says he's no longer a pastor, but he was kind of a pastor for

00:40:58.240 a little bit, but he's still doing the prayers on Erica and Charlie. I love this guy, Rob McCoy,

00:41:02.880 who just can't tell the truth when he hits the stage and is hoping for people to be bankrupted

00:41:08.020 and is talking about the Salem witch trials. I love it all. I love it all because people wake

00:41:13.480 up to the mega church and these minor pastors grifting Judeo-Christianity. You wake up to what

00:41:23.160 it's actually about, which is just protecting the state of Israel and attacking anybody who calls 0.95

00:41:28.460 them out for their various genocides around the world. Anyway, speaking of which, I'm shocked he 0.81

00:41:32.840 didn't mention Tucker Carlson in his sermon. It's usually a package deal. It's Tucker Carlson and

00:41:37.580 camera so-ins especially because tucker has been trending all weekend for saying the quiet part

00:41:43.040 out loud regarding charlie kirk's death he was on the can't be censored podcast and here's what he

00:41:48.740 had to say well you're never going to hear me whine about threats ever um to me because i got

00:41:55.460 on this voluntarily i know what i mean i got fired after 15 years the highest rated show in american

00:42:00.600 cable television and i got fired for my opinion so i and i'm not whining at all i'm so grateful

00:42:05.680 that I got fired. I'm just saying you it's not like I didn't know what the price is. I do know

00:42:10.820 what the price is. Charlie Kirk was murdered. Yeah. And he was not murdered for his opinions

00:42:15.960 on transgenderism. Obviously, he was, I believe, and most people who knew him well, as I did and

00:42:23.380 was friends with him, as I was, believe he was most likely murdered for his evolving views on

00:42:28.720 Israel. So I get it. And a lot's at stake. The world is at stake. But from my perspective, 1.00

00:42:34.960 I have a duty to say what I think is true.

00:42:37.200 I'm often wrong.

00:42:38.260 And I always say that because it's a fact.

00:42:40.140 I have been wrong a lot and I may be wrong now,

00:42:42.600 but I am sincere.

00:42:44.460 I'm saying what I believe is true

00:42:45.760 and I'm going to continue doing that no matter what.

00:42:49.460 So everyone in the entire world feels,

00:42:51.540 they're asking us to look at zero plausible evidence

00:42:54.420 that points to the fact that Charlie was stressed

00:42:56.480 the night before over transgenderism.

00:42:58.800 This isn't like, you know, Matt Walsh 0.95

00:43:00.920 in what is a woman prime. 0.85

00:43:02.980 Then you'd go, okay, maybe I could see a trans person. 0.74

00:43:04.960 Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk murdered for his views on transgenderism when the night before he tweeted that he was left no option but to abandon the pro-Israel cause because of how severely they were bullying him, threatening him, using finances. 0.69

00:43:21.260 The night before, he's talking to rabbis, Israeli rabbis, Josh Hammer, all of them saying that they were just helping him tune his debate, fine-tune his debate skills, because Charlie wasn't doing that for a living and smarter than every single one of these people. 0.59

00:43:37.000 No, he needed advice the night before.

00:43:39.440 No, you guys were all on the text chain where he said this.

00:43:42.500 Your conversation clearly was related to the text that he dropped where he said, you've left me no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause.

00:43:50.540 That's common sense.

00:43:52.420 And you keep bragging about the fact

00:43:54.220 we were the last one to talk to him.

00:43:55.980 Yeah, that's the problem.

00:43:57.300 He then sends a message and says, 0.95

00:43:58.660 they're going to kill me. 0.98

00:43:59.480 And we're supposed to believe 0.96

00:44:00.060 that after hanging up with Josh Hammer

00:44:01.740 and the rabbi on a Zoom call,

00:44:06.060 having told them that he was done being bullied

00:44:08.700 because Zionists fall into all of the stereotypes, 1.00

00:44:13.140 we're supposed to believe that that night

00:44:15.260 he texted security and said, 0.99

00:44:16.960 I'm worried a trans person's going to murder me. 0.98

00:44:18.600 No, it defies common sense. 1.00

00:44:19.900 we reject it. Okay? It defies everything that happened that day, defies common sense.

00:44:27.040 Everything you're telling us happened that day defies common sense. Okay, Charlie wasn't hit

00:44:30.760 with a .30-06 bullet in the neck. He wasn't. I'm sorry. Didn't happen. Did not happen.

00:44:37.680 And you know it didn't happen. And Erica couldn't scramble fast enough, and Terrell couldn't 0.96

00:44:41.780 scramble fast enough, and new witnesses the next day at 4 a.m. in the morning saying,

00:44:45.240 he got shot in the neck. Couldn't scramble fast enough. In my opinion. In my opinion,

00:44:53.360 allegedly. Nothing adds up. Show us something solid. We don't need influencers who formerly

00:44:59.340 worked for the Department of War coming and making videos and telling us, well, don't believe

00:45:05.580 your own eyes. Nope. We're going to believe our own eyes this time. We're going to believe our

00:45:09.320 on ice this time, if that's cool. And that ain't a grieving widow. Anyway, Blakey Neff responded. 1.00

00:45:17.840 I want you to know why it's important that he responded to the Tucker thing, because he used

00:45:20.440 to work for Tucker Carlson. And I want to say, Tucker, if you're watching, I told you so. Tucker

00:45:24.440 was so nice about Blake Neff. So nice. So nice about Erica. So nice about Blake Neff. Said,

00:45:29.380 I know these people, blah, blah, blah. Of course, Blakey Neff, you could see how quickly he would

00:45:34.580 have stabbed Charlie in the back as he just stabs Tucker right into the back. And he tweeted this,

00:45:39.300 Actually, those of us who knew Charlie Best, a group that doesn't include Tucker, do think that Tyler Robinson did it and was motivated by transgender radicalism.

00:45:47.680 Tucker is lying.

00:45:49.340 No, Blake Neff, you're lying.

00:45:50.740 And some audio is going to show that the majority of people at Turning Point USA don't believe Tyler Robinson did it or acted alone.

00:45:56.580 We'll have that later this week.

00:45:58.140 I know some other podcasters are working on that, namely Baron Coleman.

00:46:01.840 But you're lying.

00:46:02.460 and the fact that you do it to cover up 0.71

00:46:05.060 and you stab Tucker in the back

00:46:07.240 or I guess in the front in this circumstance

00:46:09.280 lets us know what you would do to Charlie Kirk.

00:46:11.100 You weren't one of his best friends. 0.91

00:46:13.420 You're like an annoying person

00:46:14.480 that somehow got onto his podcast.

00:46:15.920 Nobody really knows how, actually.

00:46:17.400 I'd like to know how.

00:46:18.900 Oh, I know.

00:46:19.420 I was helping him with his debate points, Charlie, man.

00:46:22.220 After I left, he must have gotten really bad at debating.

00:46:26.020 Everyone was helping him.

00:46:27.600 Rabbis, pastors, priests, his wife.

00:46:31.700 If everybody was helping Charlie Kirk learn how to debate in his, like, 10th year of debating on college campuses, those kids must have really gotten wise or something.

00:46:39.900 He was terrified, excited the night before, thought he was going to die, but also very excited the night before, woke Gigi up or something. 0.93

00:46:47.800 There's a lot going on, a lot of emotions, terrified, texting his security, they're going to kill me after a day of arguing with Zionists. 0.80

00:46:55.020 But he was talking about trans people, and then he was really excited the next day. 0.95

00:46:58.920 None of it makes sense.

00:47:00.820 Anyway, countering Blake, obviously, is the fact that the exact opposite was said while Blake was there on Charlie's show after he died by Andrew Colvett. Take a listen.

00:47:11.320 I really want people to understand, Tucker, you and Charlie had such a unique and special bond and relationship.

00:47:18.360 It was a deep friendship and you both had each other's back in an incredible way.

00:47:24.020 He had my back.

00:47:24.420 You had his back, too. I know those stories as well.

00:47:26.760 Yeah. And I promised I wouldn't get into any of that, but I will say, and I'm not going to,

00:47:30.400 but I will say, cause I want this to be about Jesus and his love for Jesus and what he did

00:47:36.420 to spread the word of Jesus throughout the world. But I will just say this, that whenever I would

00:47:40.920 come and do a gig for you guys, which was a lot, cause I really enjoyed it. And he was so kind to

00:47:45.920 invite me and defend my being there. But I would always, he's the only person I did this with.

00:47:50.460 I would always say, Hey, you know, let's like meet in my hotel room or have a meal. Like,

00:47:55.600 I loved talking to him

00:47:58.340 and it wasn't just to catch up

00:48:00.300 on everything that's going on

00:48:01.040 in the political world.

00:48:01.780 He would always bring it back to God

00:48:03.280 every single time

00:48:04.660 and it was so,

00:48:05.600 there was no one around.

00:48:07.320 Like, so he didn't need to be like,

00:48:08.380 oh yeah, I really love God.

00:48:09.960 It was like, just us!

00:48:11.640 And he'd be talking about that.

00:48:12.580 And you would come to Phoenix

00:48:13.360 and you would reach out to,

00:48:14.640 I knew, it was like,

00:48:15.700 I have so many memories

00:48:16.980 of Charlie being like,

00:48:17.860 I can't, I gotta do dinner.

00:48:19.160 Who are you doing dinner with?

00:48:19.880 Oh, Tucker's in town.

00:48:20.600 I gotta meet up with him.

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00:48:55.720 Blake Neff is a liar. 1.00

00:48:58.440 He is a coward. 1.00

00:48:59.600 He is a backstabber. 1.00

00:49:00.640 And he is made of the stuff that you would expect from a person who would betray Charlie. 0.98

00:49:05.320 You proved yourself to be a deceitful traitor by pretending he was not close to Tucker Carlson.

00:49:10.860 Everybody knows that he was close to Tucker Carlson. 0.95

00:49:12.780 He confided with him.

00:49:14.020 Just like everybody knows that me and Charlie were friends.

00:49:16.400 You guys are trying to rewrite his history while we watch live.

00:49:19.240 And we're not going to stand it.

00:49:20.060 You're trying to rewrite history and make it so that his close friends were Josh Hammer, Laura Loomer, Jigsaw, okay, Sawface, you're now allowing to kind of edge into and pretend that he was her advisor.

00:49:33.300 He came to me for advice about the woke right.

00:49:35.780 Oh, oh, he was upset about Tucker Carlson and confided into Laura Loomer.

00:49:41.380 Are you guys out of your minds?

00:49:42.700 How do you live with yourselves?

00:49:44.100 How do you do it?

00:49:44.680 I want to understand it.

00:49:45.520 How do you guys wake up in the morning

00:49:47.080 and look yourselves in the mirror

00:49:49.180 knowing that you didn't just betray Charlie,

00:49:51.260 you betray him every single day,

00:49:53.880 every single moment,

00:49:55.440 and the entire world knows it.

00:49:59.060 Every time Blake Neff opens his mouth,

00:50:02.020 a conspiracy theorist gets his wings.

00:50:04.380 That's a fact.

00:50:05.840 An absolute fact. 0.99

00:50:07.980 These people are despicable.

00:50:09.820 No, Charlie and Candace didn't speak since 2019. 1.00

00:50:13.000 You liars. 0.97

00:50:14.040 sending people out to write hit pieces, 0.99

00:50:16.500 trying to just, I can't even imagine having passed away

00:50:19.860 and watching my worst enemies be given my legacy

00:50:24.360 by my own wife, by my own wife,

00:50:28.760 yielding the stage to Ben Shapiro.

00:50:30.640 Like we were gonna allow that.

00:50:31.760 We're not gonna allow it.

00:50:33.460 I said from the very beginning of this entire thing, 0.84

00:50:35.060 I want war with all of you

00:50:35.920 and I'm so glad that I'm getting it. 0.61

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00:52:37.200 all right you guys top comment from the last episode is by just focusing on who killed charlie

00:52:45.160 kirk you have discovered there's so much more going on in our corrupt government you know my

00:52:49.500 sense is just it's global trafficking i think charlie was invited to join the global trafficking

00:52:54.880 ring that's my opinion based on everything that i have seen um that's what it looks like to me

00:53:00.520 and through the mechanism of churches and mega churches a lot of that global trafficking has

00:53:04.920 been covered think while you still can chewing the void rights erica could clear up a lot of the 0.98

00:53:10.620 speculation in a single afternoon she has now spent nine months proving that she won't erica 1.00

00:53:14.680 cannot do that because she is not intelligent enough to hold to be hosted for um an interview 0.98

00:53:21.460 that's not scripted she can't sit there and answer questions if you think that that 0.76

00:53:25.160 girl is capable of what charlie was capable of watching his last presentation just how quickly 0.97

00:53:31.880 his mind worked. If you think that that girl can speak to you or answer basic questions about a

00:53:35.980 balance sheet, you're an idiot. She has no idea what's going on. She is what she's always been, 1.00

00:53:41.140 a pageant girl. Tell her the lines that she has to remember and she can utter them back to you.

00:53:45.460 And usually it's not with perfection. Usually she slips up even with the lines that have been

00:53:50.320 pre-written for her. And I know for a fact that in past interviews, scripts were handed to her

00:53:56.720 before she went out, at the very beginning of this thing. It's a fact. Not a suspicion, a fact.

00:54:03.880 Mikey McCoy, Stacey Sheridan, they have been the directors helping Erica memorize her lines.

00:54:11.300 That is not a real person. That is not a real grieving widow, and I simply don't care.

00:54:15.280 Anyway, I want to move on also to this. I want to show you guys quickly this email that we got,

00:54:18.800 another email regarding Petten. We're taking a look at what happens at the Fort Huachuca base.

00:54:23.000 need to do a little bit of research. But this person wrote, hey, Candice, I'm not sure if you'll

00:54:26.460 ever even read this because I know you're busy, but I have some information and opinions to give

00:54:30.000 you on the mic. My boyfriend and I both work with explosives. We both are military EOD,

00:54:36.740 Explosive Ordnance Disposal Techs, which is more commonly known as military bomb techs.

00:54:41.780 Anyway, as far as the petin, we pronounce it petin, thank you for telling me,

00:54:45.440 it's the main component in military and commercial blasting caps. Each blasting cap

00:54:50.120 has less than one gram of Pettin and deals major damage.

00:54:54.600 We have seen so many videos and know people who are missing fingers

00:54:57.960 or went blind from mishandling these blasting caps.

00:55:01.580 Anyway, I'm not sure about the Tennessee explosion that you were talking about,

00:55:05.380 but I know that it's very easy to either make your own explosives

00:55:08.620 or steal from the military, police, or commercial areas.

00:55:12.040 As far as the shaped charge, it is very common in IEDs,

00:55:15.660 and copper is the most common.

00:55:17.360 But to give you a sense of how easy it is,

00:55:19.080 so you can use a wine bottle to make one as well.

00:55:21.620 I know this won't help progress your theories,

00:55:23.160 but me, along with my tech friends,

00:55:24.860 all believe it was the mic.

00:55:26.360 We could definitely be biased since we deal with IEDs,

00:55:28.780 but I just thought that you should know.

00:55:30.400 But a lot of people who deal with rifles,

00:55:31.900 explosives, and improvised explosives

00:55:34.720 do not believe it was from a gun.

00:55:36.560 Please reach out if you have any questions.

00:55:37.980 Thank you.

00:55:38.620 Like I said, we've been receiving tons of these emails

00:55:40.540 from people in the military.

00:55:42.240 And the reason why I show you these things

00:55:43.640 for people that deal with explosives

00:55:44.580 is because you're going to have to contend 1.00

00:55:47.600 with a bunch of morons on the internet 1.00

00:55:48.820 telling you that it's not possible. 1.00

00:55:50.020 And they have no idea what they're talking about.

00:55:51.160 They didn't even watch the episode.

00:55:52.400 They just kept their marching orders

00:55:54.320 and tried to make it seem as though

00:55:56.740 it's not possible for a shaped charge

00:55:58.440 to come out of something that is the size of the beeper. 1.00

00:56:00.500 It's actually what the Israelis specialize in, 1.00

00:56:03.240 as I've demonstrated to you guys. 0.71

00:56:04.900 And this, to me, is the theory that has the most legs,

00:56:08.820 and we will be continuing to spend time on it

00:56:11.500 because every single piece of the puzzle comes together

00:56:14.860 when you imagine that he was actually taken out

00:56:16.640 by his redundant mic and the characters that were around him sort of boiling the frog and

00:56:23.600 getting him accustomed to having that redundancy, which was not a feature when I toured with Charlie

00:56:28.600 for five years. That's all I'll say. Anyway, a couple more comments today. I think we are over

00:56:33.700 time. Scrolling down, who do we have? We have U.S. flagpole guy writes, Brian Harpole brought

00:56:43.240 Charlie's bag to Sean like a cat brings a mouse to its owner. Why was it not in evidence? Great

00:56:48.200 question, which I asked. Why was not in evidence? But nothing went to evidence. The microphone

00:56:52.060 didn't go into evidence. It went, you know, for a photo op with Erica in front of donors as she

00:56:57.160 raised $40 million at Mar-a-Lago. Everything was just sort of conveniently given back at Turning

00:57:01.360 Point USA. Charlie Kirk's phone should have been kept into evidence. It wasn't. It was given back,

00:57:06.060 as we know, very quickly returned to Erica. And that is why they needed to brand her as

00:57:10.420 grieving widow so people wouldn't ask these sorts of common sense questions. Why is evidence being

00:57:15.560 handed back to his wife? Right? Doesn't make any sense. Jenna writes, Happy Father's Day to George.

00:57:23.620 I love the stories that you share and the pics of the kids. You two are great parents. We also just

00:57:27.660 really love being parents. If you can't tell, baby number five. Our kids are just the best. I know

00:57:32.760 I'm biased, but somebody actually has to have the best kids, and I think it's us. They're just

00:57:37.360 awesome. They're fun. They're social. They're very funny. They have such a great sense of humor and

00:57:42.940 they just make it all worth it. Jess Happy writes, I knew it. Congratulations, Queen Candice. Christ

00:57:48.340 is king indeed. What a blessing. Yes, it is a blessing. And you guys did know. I don't know

00:57:52.980 how you knew before I knew, but I must have a really bad attitude when I'm pregnant with these

00:57:58.420 boys. It's now a frat house, by the way. I'm raising a little army 300 style. So I wouldn't

00:58:03.200 Cabot Phillips. I'll see you when I see you on the playground.

00:58:07.680 Les is Mo. Richie writes, your show titles and your sense of humor are unrivaled. I love how

00:58:11.840 you turn the tables on the trolls. My college-aged son sent posts and asked mom, have you seen this?

00:58:17.140 Could it be true? I said, I don't underestimate Candace. Go Max. Christ is king. Yes, you know,

00:58:22.500 this world is crazy and a part of it is psychological and they're always playing

00:58:26.260 these games and wanting you to be fearful to live your life. Life is short. We've learned

00:58:29.840 that lesson from Charlie. And so live it fully. Live your life fully. Say what you want. Do things

00:58:35.440 that actually matter. Tell the truth, as Tucker Carlson stipulates. He is in a position where he

00:58:40.160 is required to tell the truth and not to give into this nonsense. There's a lot of money to

00:58:44.620 spend nonsense. I'll tell you what, I might make $800,000 a week if I flip sides. I hear it's going

00:58:52.340 around. I show faith by works. I bet I could get $800,000 per week if I lied to you and told you

00:58:59.440 not to think and spun crap to you like, no, it's a modern day miracle. Three odd six just gets 0.91

00:59:06.600 stopped and bounces down and ricochets and then explodes into somebody's stomach and he just ate

00:59:12.180 it. What a blessing. I could do that, but I can't. I actually can't do that, least of all when I'm

00:59:19.240 pregnant with a boy. I can't do it. Lindsay Collin-Rice, just remember there is no honor

00:59:24.460 among thieves. I am so excited to see who folds and how quickly they all turn each other and play

00:59:28.780 victim. I wonder who it will be first. I love your show, your mission, your passion, and your

00:59:32.400 commitment. Thank you. If I had to guess, it would be Blake Neff because he's a weasel.

00:59:37.800 But I'm just guessing. Natalie Chinita writes, congrats for baby number five. Thank you so much.

00:59:43.220 Ali writes, in Erica's Father's Day post, she wrote, you would always mention more fog,

00:59:48.680 more sparklers, and she used a clip of Charlie at a TPUSA event with sparklers. She literally

00:59:53.260 used a Father's Day post for PR purposes because she gets heat for the sparklers. I know, I know. 0.98

00:59:57.180 I actually mentioned it to my team. If you go back, she pretends she doesn't watch everything, but she watches every minute of everything and every criticism that's being lodged at her because she always tries to wrap it into every public appearance to respond to it. Like even in this recent one, she was like, the kids were dropped off at their grandma's house because people were saying that she doesn't have the best relationship with Charlie's parents.

01:00:17.620 I bet in this upcoming hearing, what is it now?

01:00:21.840 Is it this week, the Tyler Robinson hearing?

01:00:23.840 Or is it in July, whenever it was bumped to, that she's going to be there?

01:00:27.320 Because people have been saying it's weird that she's never been to any of the hearings at all.

01:00:32.660 If your husband was assassinated, wouldn't you want to attend? 0.99

01:00:34.800 I bet you she will go to the next one because she's a psychopath. 1.00

01:00:38.680 So she edits her behavior according to what the public says, and she thinks that she can then sell that as if we're not onto her game. 1.00

01:00:45.580 while simultaneously claiming that she doesn't listen to the comments 0.92

01:00:48.340 and the naysayers don't get to her

01:00:49.680 until she comes in like Janet Jackson,

01:00:52.740 calling out Drewski for a joke while forgiving Tyler Robinson

01:00:55.400 and throwing my name in it for no reason.

01:00:57.660 Well, call my name.

01:00:59.120 I might just be here.

01:00:59.880 I'm here, Erica, and I'm just done.

01:01:02.320 I'm done with Turning Point USA.

01:01:04.120 The lies are just getting to a point

01:01:05.780 like we're not rewriting history

01:01:07.300 where Laura Loomer is a friend of his

01:01:11.480 and Tucker Carlson was not.

01:01:12.780 That's done.

01:01:13.460 It's over.

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01:01:24.600 I don't know what I said that people want the merch about

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01:01:28.820 I don't know what I say half the time.

01:01:30.600 It's like a surge of like boy energy.

01:01:34.020 That's, I don't know.

01:01:34.780 I don't understand it physiologically speaking

01:01:36.680 why this happens to me,

01:01:39.260 why I want to do hoodwet stuff with my friends

01:01:41.640 when I'm pregnant. 0.99

01:01:43.600 Can't I just be one of those people that just cries at the drop of a hat and just cries all the time?

01:01:46.840 I want to be one of those people.

01:01:48.200 I was more emotional when I was pregnant with my daughter.

01:01:50.900 I didn't want to fight people, that's for sure.

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Candace Owens - June 22, 2026

I Survive My First Death Hoax, Erika Kirk Makes Human History. ｜ Ep 353

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