00:00:00.000All right, you guys, I am finally back. I am so happy to be back. Things tend to get a little crazy when I go away. I have to tell you, when I jumped online and I saw all of the X trends, I wasn't exactly certain whether last week represented the preliminary trial of Tyler Robinson or Candace Owens.
00:00:17.820I mean, is everybody okay? Why do I seem to have this sort of an effect on middle-aged men? Did
00:00:25.440you see this? This is real. Those are my former employers, ladies and gentlemen. And ladies,
00:00:32.120can I just say that if your husband is striking poses in the mirror to look like Candace Owens,
00:00:37.280you have got to get him off of the internet. Anyway, can I just begin by saying the quiet
00:00:42.500part out loud? Please forgive me, I have to say it. Regarding the preliminary hearing,
00:00:47.820If you find yourself having to invite literal social media influencers into a courthouse, Erica, as in the actual job description of these human beings is to influence the masses about products or ideas.
00:01:02.840if you feel compelled to invite Benny Johnson, Department of War consultant Graham Allen,
00:01:10.000Brandon Tatum, people who you, for whatever reason, I'm not judging, did not choose to
00:01:15.540invite to Charlie's private funeral mass, but extended an invitation for them to come to the
00:01:19.760courthouse, the public may rightfully have some questions about your intent. Like right off the
00:01:27.000that, that's an interesting move, Erica, right? Benny Johnson came right out of the gate and said,
00:01:33.260Erica asked me to be here. Okay, really? Why? Why did Erica Kirk request your presence there?
00:01:42.220I would have asked my cousins, my close friends, people I went to high school with,
00:01:47.960some aunts and uncles that don't annoy me to be there, but influencers, I don't think so.
00:01:52.000It's giving, I'm finally going to wear black, but I'm going to invite the glittery pantsuit.
00:07:16.640In fact, Bill Ackman, king of the Hamptons, immediately pledged $1 million to Tyler Robinson's father, Matt Robinson.
00:07:24.840Someone should check in on that $1 million, by the way.
00:07:27.740He pledged that for the brave act of Matt Robinson having turned in his son.
00:07:32.940Anyways, here's a little clip of people telling us that that's what happened, and we were going to find that out.
00:07:39.000I was having a discussion about how I, you know, just as a father, how incredible it was to see and just, you know, almost unbelievable it was to see Tyler Robinson's parents play a role in turning over their son.
00:07:57.740Tyler Robinson and the video and footage of him were identified also by his parents as being Tyler Robinson.
00:08:03.340Tyler Robinson's parents see that photo and think that looks like Tyler.
00:08:08.100They begin asking him things like, where is your, I believe it was his grandfather's gun.
00:11:22.760You could get hurt in that process or you can willfully come in.
00:11:27.840And he agreed to willfully go in, not confessing to a crime, but not wanting them to burst into his home and potentially harm him or his parents because he wasn't suicidal.
00:11:40.500I also expressed to you that Tyler Robinson was not political, crucial, and that he came from a family of Trumpers.
00:11:48.180I want to be clear that I have never denied that the gun found was indeed Tyler Robinson's gun,
00:11:55.100but rather I have asserted that the gun was not fired on that day and was not used to kill
00:12:00.120Charlie Kirk. Particularly, we stressed on this show that he had simply inherited the gun
00:12:05.340as a family heirloom because he is the firstborn son, but that Tyler himself was actually more of
00:12:10.680a fisherman. His brothers were the hunters. I also have suggested heavily from the beginning
00:16:07.160I couldn't reasonably deny that it's any of those young men
00:16:09.520or any one or number of the decoy boys on campus that day
00:16:13.880who I speculated all looked to me like they belonged in a military unit.
00:16:18.540But speaking of which, I think I forgot to mention to you guys that on the top floor of the Losey Center, of all things, it's UVU's military-affiliated student hub, known as their MASH Center.
00:16:32.000It's literally a dedicated student center for student veterans and their families.
00:31:55.320tyler robinson's lawyer then goes through great pains to show that the media and the influencers
00:32:03.820took what was essentially scientific jargon and they lied and i'm going to explain that to you
00:32:08.220so i want you to lock in okay you may have heard them over and over again stipulating that tyler
00:32:13.100robinson was a major contributor to the dna sample right so if you're uninitiated and you hear that
00:32:19.840It sounds like it means Tyler Robinson's DNA was all over the gun.
00:32:23.660He's a major contributor to the DNA sample.
00:32:26.420But it actually does not mean that at all.
00:32:27.980And I want you to take a listen to what she says, and then I'm going to break it down for you further so that you can understand what they did here.
00:32:34.600And you can't tell us anything about when the DNA was deposited on the trigger guard or the trigger, correct?
00:32:44.220You can tell us anything about whether, when you say it's at least four, it could be five, six, or seven people with DNA on that trigger or trigger guard, correct?
00:32:57.360Correct, which is why we have the major contributor that is suitable for comparison, and the minor contributor is not suitable for comparison due to that complexity.
00:33:07.080And again, major, minor just has to do with the levels of DNA you were seeing.
00:33:11.160It has nothing to do with someone being engaged in activity that is major in relation to the minor contributor.
00:33:20.480Yes, so the major contributor is the majority of the DNA contributed to that sample.
00:33:28.080So I'm going to break that down further and why this is really big and we're building on something else that she's going to say that is explosive.
00:33:35.400So the idea of what she's explaining is that like,
00:33:55.540Maybe Ashley just touches her two fingers here
00:33:58.420when she fills up the water, okay?0.93
00:34:00.420She is saying that these are mixed samples.
00:34:03.120So let's say they just took a sample right here of where Ashley happens to have touched it, but it still also has my fingerprint on it.
00:34:12.580Ashley could be described as a major contributor to the DNA sample, despite the fact that this is my mug and the majority of this mug has my DNA on it.
00:34:22.880Ashley could be described because they just carved out that one portion, which happens to have Ashley's DNA on it.
00:34:28.340So they intentionally misconstrued the intention of the ATF report when they were relying on a sample in which Tyler Robinson was the major contributor of that particular mixed sample.
00:34:41.060And he also went through great lengths to explain to people why they don't use, since 1996, they actually don't rely on mixed samples for that very reason, because it confuses matters.
00:35:57.240You didn't do the swabs, but am I correct that you have no way of knowing which part was from the trigger and which part was from the trigger guard?
00:36:10.600Correct. So they were swabbed together, so I wouldn't be able to say where the DNA came from.
00:36:16.540And that's one of the samples that was degraded, correct?
00:36:21.840There were signs of degradation present in that sample, yes.
00:36:25.360And you said with regard to that sample that that was a sample consistent with at least four contributors, right?
00:37:02.8601.3 is the swabs of the trigger and trigger guard of the rifle.
00:37:06.040All right, going back to page five, and we've had some talk, some testimony from you and some questions for you about the likelihood ratios.
00:37:22.140What was your conclusion as to the likelihood ratio that you analyzed in this question in calculation number three?
00:37:36.040the DNA profile was at least. Okay. So you heard her say that, that his was the most degraded
00:37:43.640of the firearms. And she's talking about the trigger guard and the trigger. She's not sure
00:37:49.780where they got the sample from. And that's a huge difference because they kept saying
00:37:52.620that his DNA was on the trigger. And she's admitting it could be the trigger guard. That's
00:37:56.760just the cover for the trigger. And of all of the samples that were on there, Tyler's was the most
00:38:02.040degraded. That is an absolute bombshell. And let me explain why, okay? Because it's not possible.
00:38:10.100For clarity, earlier on, she discusses that DNA can stay on an object for a very long time. She
00:38:16.680doesn't get specific. I can tell you, and you can research this on your own, DNA can stay on an
00:38:20.980object for decades, decades, okay? But over time, it can certainly degrade. It can degrade because
00:38:27.440it's been exposed and she does testify to humidity over time. Dust particles begin to set in. If you
00:38:34.760just put up your grandpa's gun and dust particles are just sitting in your house because you don't
00:38:38.880use it, that would be a reason that it might degrade. Maybe you had water on it, it might
00:38:44.520degrade. It does not seem to me that DNA would suddenly degrade immediately after someone
00:38:51.920shoots a person, jumps off a rooftop, and tosses the gun into a nearby bush, okay? This registers
00:38:58.780to me as more evidence that Lance Twiggs simply took Tyler Robinson's family heirloom of a gun
00:39:05.300and helped the feds set him up as a patsy. There is no reason why Lance Twiggs' prints
00:39:11.800are less degraded than Tyler Robinson's prints on this gun if Tyler Robinson is the shooter.
00:39:18.420It is a massive admission by her that his prints were degrading, given how much it takes to degrade those prints. So that was something that I felt that they were intentionally trying to gloss over and realizing that she's basically kind of asserting, like, Matt Robinson and Lance Twiggs had a stronger DNA sample than Tyler Robinson did. He was the most degraded.
00:39:45.260And then, of course, when you couple this with the day earlier, the ATFs, every time the ATF spoke, it was devastating for the prosecution. The ATF ballistics expert was a woman named Samantha Carner. She spoke on day four. And she similarly gave testimony that was very in the weeds and scientific. And whenever they do that, I just start researching the numbers they're saying, because I know that there's a point being made.
00:40:06.400And Tyler Robinson's defense did a very good job of asking her to read her report of the diameter, the diameter range for the bullet jacket jacket fragment.
00:40:16.720By the way, it was weird off the bat that they said they took seven bullet seven fragments from Charlie's body.
00:40:23.520She testifies that she only received four of them in an envelope, in a manila envelope.
00:40:28.660so three disappeared. Of the four that she got, three of them were unusable. And then she was
00:40:33.780left with one, which she labeled 6A. And that's what they're discussing, this bullet jacket
00:40:40.240fragment. And she gives this a range of diameter. And it describes in detail why she gave it that
00:40:48.240range and how confident she was that you were looking for a bullet that would be in this range
00:40:54.400of a diameter, take a listen to this testimony and the range that she gives. The range of the
00:41:00.280diameter for the 6A bullet jacket fragment was 0.286 to 0.301 inches.
00:41:09.340The reason why that matters is because it's too small for Tyler's 30-06. That's why he was going
00:41:15.260through great lengths to get her saying that on record, because a 30-06 would begin at 0.308,
00:41:23.220And then it goes upward. The cartridge diameter goes upward to 0.471. So she's basically admitting it's not Tyler Robinson's gun. I would love to see this go on. I would love to see this go further because, well, if people are going to be able to see the full extent of this trial, you are going to really appreciate the psychological campaign further that is being employed right now.
00:55:09.580And they put me on trial in a variety of ways.
00:55:12.140I don't actually care because I'm built for this.
00:55:15.040I am not going to watch Charlie Kirk, my friend, be assassinated in broad daylight, watch everyone turn their back on him for money and sit back idly and allow it to still go. That doesn't work for me. And actually, I am so rested right now and so ready for war that the last nine, ten months was basically me feeling weakened, having watched that in a state of mourning and feeling like every day I was just sort of
00:55:44.700coming up for air, they're not going to like what comes next because I'm 100% ready for it.
00:55:52.440And one of the biggest bombshells, which we're going to cover when we get back from a break,
00:55:55.640I know we're over time, but we got to do it, is Ben Shapiro's admission. We'll be right back.
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00:59:32.080I can't wait to get into Turning Point USA and the crash out they had online.
00:59:37.680Andrew Colvett finally coming up to the surface, deceitful, the Judas, no question.
00:59:43.700My dream was on point about who he is and everyone is now seeing his character.0.79
00:59:47.980So much so that Ben Shapiro actually ventured out to tell the truth about him and Charlie's relationship while Andrew really was going to say that Charlie and Ben were friends.
00:59:56.280it is actually one of the markers for me that something was very wrong was how
01:00:01.560instantly involved Ben Shapiro was. I said this on the show. I said, Ben Shapiro is acting really
01:00:07.320weird. He never liked Charlie. Charlie never liked him. This is a known fact. Anybody who
01:00:12.000knows Charlie Kirk knows that he did not like Ben Shapiro because Ben Shapiro attempted to stop
01:00:17.160Charlie from rising. It's just a fact. Like everybody else, when he began his career,
01:00:22.240oh, that's cool. It's Ben Shapiro. I'd love to work with him. And then you find out
01:15:33.820I love you, Candace. Thank you so much. And I totally agree with you. It just reads to me
01:15:38.020like when you're new to a language and you're too formal, that's what it sounds like to me.
01:15:43.080And like I said, we have so much more to unpack this week going back to the investigation.
01:15:49.200I do think some heads are going to roll, but we will see.
01:15:52.580Samet writes, we are Charlie. Indeed. New to our writes, don't hold back Candace. You're the last
01:15:58.400voice that he's got. Go Max girl. I'm not. It's actually all of you guys around the world too.0.98
01:16:02.480It's a chorus now, and that's their problem, is I may have been maybe the loudest because it mattered deeply to me, but I am certainly not alone, and I appreciate you guys for that.
01:16:15.180Amy Riddle writes, I'm from New Zealand.
01:16:17.140I have a first-class honors law degree and accounting degree, so I am not stupid.
01:16:20.360I have yet to see any clear evidence, just screenshots and hearsay.
01:16:23.660But what I do see is highly suspicious behavior from Turning Point USA and Erica.
01:16:27.080I cannot wait to get into Blake Neff not remembering a lot of important things
01:16:33.540regarding what he did on the morning of September 10th and the evening of September 10th.