Candace Owens - July 14, 2026


I’M BACK! And The Tyler Robinson Show Trial Begins... | Ep 358


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00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, I am finally back. I am so happy to be back. Things tend to get a little crazy when I go away. I have to tell you, when I jumped online and I saw all of the X trends, I wasn't exactly certain whether last week represented the preliminary trial of Tyler Robinson or Candace Owens.
00:00:17.820 I mean, is everybody okay? Why do I seem to have this sort of an effect on middle-aged men? Did
00:00:25.440 you see this? This is real. Those are my former employers, ladies and gentlemen. And ladies,
00:00:32.120 can I just say that if your husband is striking poses in the mirror to look like Candace Owens,
00:00:37.280 you have got to get him off of the internet. Anyway, can I just begin by saying the quiet
00:00:42.500 part out loud? Please forgive me, I have to say it. Regarding the preliminary hearing,
00:00:47.820 If you find yourself having to invite literal social media influencers into a courthouse, Erica, as in the actual job description of these human beings is to influence the masses about products or ideas.
00:01:02.840 if you feel compelled to invite Benny Johnson, Department of War consultant Graham Allen,
00:01:10.000 Brandon Tatum, people who you, for whatever reason, I'm not judging, did not choose to
00:01:15.540 invite to Charlie's private funeral mass, but extended an invitation for them to come to the
00:01:19.760 courthouse, the public may rightfully have some questions about your intent. Like right off the
00:01:27.000 that, that's an interesting move, Erica, right? Benny Johnson came right out of the gate and said,
00:01:33.260 Erica asked me to be here. Okay, really? Why? Why did Erica Kirk request your presence there?
00:01:42.220 I would have asked my cousins, my close friends, people I went to high school with,
00:01:47.960 some aunts and uncles that don't annoy me to be there, but influencers, I don't think so.
00:01:52.000 It's giving, I'm finally going to wear black, but I'm going to invite the glittery pantsuit.
00:01:58.340 You know what I mean?
00:01:58.900 It still feels like a show.
00:02:01.600 And you guys, I have to tell you, I'm getting old.
00:02:03.320 I really am.
00:02:04.040 And one thing that I have learned in my ripe old age is that the truth never requires a
00:02:09.440 marketing campaign.
00:02:10.420 There's just never a budget line item for truth.
00:02:15.180 Of course, the single craziest piece of news over the last week and plausibly since the
00:02:19.220 day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated is that Ben Shapiro, who just makes everyone's skin crawl
00:02:24.580 in a unique way, has offered up an unusual confession that as Charlie Kirk, his enemy,
00:02:30.920 lay dying and bleeding in the backseat of the car en route to the hospital, an approximate
00:02:35.000 seven-minute ride, someone in Charlie's car was providing Ben's security with updates over the
00:02:41.500 phone while Charlie was in the car. That's massive. I got to say, for those of us who believe that
00:02:47.640 there is mounting evidence that Israel put a hit on Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro receiving updates
00:02:52.880 while Charlie was dying is not going to go a long way in terms of clearing up any conspiracies. So
00:02:59.240 welcome back to Candace.
00:03:01.040 obviously not enough time in the day we have so much to unpack this week but you know what let's
00:03:21.320 begin with a basic definition class what does it mean to be overwhelmed like actually let's just
00:03:28.960 start with the root word, whelm. The verb to whelm. Let's just pull a definition of that.
00:03:36.620 To whelm is a verb meaning to submerge, to engulf, or to completely cover something,
00:03:42.860 often with a disastrous effect. It can also mean to overpower or to overcome someone in thought
00:03:48.180 or in feeling. So right now, there is a seemingly infinite number of influencers on social media
00:03:54.180 who watched the Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing last week,
00:03:57.960 and they reported back to us common folk
00:04:00.900 that they came away from it
00:04:02.680 and they were effectively drowning.
00:04:05.200 They were submerged.
00:04:06.140 They were engulfed.
00:04:06.820 They were completely buried
00:04:07.900 by the avalanche of undeniable evidence
00:04:11.960 that Tyler Robinson murdered Charlie Kirk.
00:04:14.740 I mean, they were so consumed
00:04:16.720 that they all just began using that exact same adjective
00:04:20.000 to express themselves.
00:04:21.000 It is overwhelming.
00:04:22.100 In fact, that has really been...
00:04:24.180 The key word since last year, right?
00:04:26.500 It is the new wear a mask, save lives, six feet social distancing.
00:04:32.500 The evidence against Tyler Robinson is overwhelming.
00:04:36.600 Check out this little collage you put together of influencers who apparently need to pop
00:04:41.300 a Xanax, right?
00:04:42.260 The evidence is becoming overwhelming against Tyler Robinson.
00:04:45.500 Thanks, Graham.
00:04:46.700 Steve Deese, the podcast, I'd say his podcast, an overwhelming evidence against Tyler Robinson.
00:04:52.360 Paramount, not so tactical.
00:04:54.180 The evidence against Tyler Robinson is overwhelming.
00:04:56.860 Gunther Eagleman, the evidence is overwhelming, to say the least.
00:05:00.760 It feels like he's saying the most.
00:05:02.820 Jack is quoting Don Trump Jr. as having said,
00:05:07.540 the evidence against Tyler Robinson is overwhelming.
00:05:10.960 That's just one page.
00:05:12.080 Allie Beth Stuckey, Mike Lee,
00:05:14.760 the evidence against Tyler Robinson could not be more overwhelming.
00:05:18.460 He couldn't be more submerged.
00:05:20.420 to Andrew Colbert, it's overwhelming against Robinson. Whoever Bren is, it's overwhelming.
00:05:28.440 Susie, it's overwhelming. Clay Travis, it seems overwhelming. Some people even went so far as to
00:05:37.880 report that it was actually the most overwhelming thing that they have ever witnessed in their
00:05:42.840 entire lives in the courtroom. Take it away, Josh Hammer, who happens to look like a Bond villain.
00:05:49.600 Take a listen.
00:05:50.680 So to reiterate and to summarize what we've already said,
00:05:54.400 the evidence presented this week
00:05:55.600 just during the pre-trial evidentiary hearings
00:05:58.480 in the Charlie Kirk assassin trial,
00:06:00.420 the trial of Tyler Robinson,
00:06:02.240 is the most overwhelming presentation
00:06:03.740 that I have ever seen this early on
00:06:06.340 during a legal proceeding in my entire life,
00:06:08.360 my entire life.
00:06:10.840 Whoa, like his whole life.
00:06:13.760 This is it.
00:06:14.280 This is that moment.
00:06:16.560 So I was in Spain and I said, let me buckle in.
00:06:18.740 I, too, wish to experience that tidal wave of the exact same emotion being shared by all of these people.
00:06:25.320 Apparently, though, me and Carrie Prejean Bowler, who I was traveling with, we watched an entirely different hearing.
00:06:30.640 I don't know if it's different in Spain. 0.97
00:06:33.540 I had wondered, is it different if you don't have the eyes of Zionists? 1.00
00:06:37.940 Because I did notice a little corollary, right? 0.99
00:06:39.920 Amongst Zionists, there is an increased sense of the whelming happening when it comes to Tyler Robinson. 1.00
00:06:47.020 But let's not get ahead of ourselves, right? 0.69
00:06:48.740 Let's begin with a refresher on what exactly the Fed narrative was going into this hearing.
00:06:53.620 You have to remember the stuff that they say because they very quickly move on from these
00:06:58.120 things.
00:06:58.940 Okay, foremost, we were told over and over again that Tyler Robinson was turned in by
00:07:03.900 his own family and that he confessed to the crime at various points.
00:07:07.900 We were told his mother recognized him on the news.
00:07:10.760 His father turned him in and made, they both made official police statements against their
00:07:16.420 son.
00:07:16.640 In fact, Bill Ackman, king of the Hamptons, immediately pledged $1 million to Tyler Robinson's father, Matt Robinson.
00:07:24.840 Someone should check in on that $1 million, by the way.
00:07:27.740 He pledged that for the brave act of Matt Robinson having turned in his son.
00:07:32.940 Anyways, here's a little clip of people telling us that that's what happened, and we were going to find that out.
00:07:39.000 I was having a discussion about how I, you know, just as a father, how incredible it was to see and just, you know, almost unbelievable it was to see Tyler Robinson's parents play a role in turning over their son.
00:07:57.740 Tyler Robinson and the video and footage of him were identified also by his parents as being Tyler Robinson.
00:08:03.340 Tyler Robinson's parents see that photo and think that looks like Tyler.
00:08:08.100 They begin asking him things like, where is your, I believe it was his grandfather's gun.
00:08:13.220 They start asking him this.
00:08:15.060 Tyler Robinson starts talking like he might kill himself.
00:08:18.240 They get a friend of the family to sit down with him.
00:08:21.000 He actually, he admits that it's him.
00:08:23.460 They get him to drive up to Orem and turn himself in.
00:08:26.900 His parents helped him turn him in.
00:08:28.680 They say no face, no case.
00:08:30.240 No, his parents said, that's my son.
00:08:32.420 And then he turned himself in.
00:08:33.960 Taking responsibility for shooting Charlie Kirk.
00:08:36.060 So we have three confessions here.
00:08:37.840 One to his parents, one to his roommate, and one on Discord.
00:08:40.440 Those local sheriffs were the ones who took the first statements from Robinson's parents,
00:08:44.220 which identified Robinson as the shooter and provided the motive.
00:08:47.280 By the way, Ali, do you think that the parents of Tyler Robinson, if he was not guilty,
00:08:55.600 would be making a stink about this if he was innocent?
00:09:00.860 Have you heard a word from the parents?
00:09:03.740 No, the parents were the ones that turned him in.
00:09:07.840 Turned him in, made statements against their son.
00:09:11.780 OK.
00:09:13.000 The Fed narrative also stipulated that this was the left, right?
00:09:16.820 We were supposed to instantly go to war over this.
00:09:19.280 The right versus the left.
00:09:20.480 It was a politically motivated killing.
00:09:21.980 Tyler Robinson murdered Charlie Kirk.
00:09:23.860 First crime he's ever committed. 0.93
00:09:25.420 Decided to do that in broad daylight, in a burning rage over LGBTQ rights, particularly
00:09:31.940 trans rights, because he has a trans furry boyfriend named Lance Twiggs.
00:09:37.320 Some hate just can't be negotiated, he wrote via text.
00:09:40.600 Like, this is why I did it.
00:09:41.700 Charlie Kirk, I took my shot because I can't stand to hear the hatred that Charlie Kirk spews regarding trans people.
00:09:49.800 We were constantly reminded that there was going to be footage also of Tyler Robinson taking that shot,
00:09:55.920 that it had simply not been presented to the public yet because it wouldn't have been appropriate at that early phase.
00:10:00.580 We just had to wait to be patient.
00:10:02.820 Erica herself told us back in November or December
00:10:05.620 that she had seen the evidence
00:10:07.200 and she was convinced it was Tyler Robinson
00:10:09.700 by the time she sat down for that interview with Barry Weiss.
00:10:12.600 Her mind was made up.
00:10:14.460 That's the guy.
00:10:15.540 No foreign involvement, no involvement of others.
00:10:17.800 She doesn't need to see anything.
00:10:19.420 Now, we were also told that Tyler's fingerprints
00:10:21.880 and his DNA were found on the gun,
00:10:24.280 and that was presented rather exclusively.
00:10:26.620 They never wanted to mention any other prints,
00:10:28.620 just case closed, this is our guy, we're overwhelmed.
00:10:32.880 Okay, now what was our narrative here on the show?
00:10:35.940 Because after months and countless hours of working on this case,
00:10:39.700 chasing down every plausible lead,
00:10:42.020 I maintained that Tyler Robinson's parents did not turn him in, okay?
00:10:48.240 That was a mainstreamed lie, I said.
00:10:50.340 Rather, he was peer pressured to come in by Mike Mitchell,
00:10:54.000 the former undercover detective with the police force
00:10:56.600 and also a family friend of the Robinsons
00:10:59.220 because he was Tyler Robinson's Boy Scout leader growing up.
00:11:03.440 I maintained that Mike Mitchell actually was the one who was told that they were going to bring in Tyler Robinson.
00:11:10.880 And he then went to Tyler Robinson's parents and said,
00:11:14.140 look, you can do this the easy way or you can do this the hard way.
00:11:16.600 No matter what, they're going to bring you in.
00:11:18.960 So you're going to have a circumstance where they're going to bust in the door.
00:11:21.780 Your parents could get hurt.
00:11:22.760 You could get hurt in that process or you can willfully come in.
00:11:27.840 And he agreed to willfully go in, not confessing to a crime, but not wanting them to burst into his home and potentially harm him or his parents because he wasn't suicidal.
00:11:40.500 I also expressed to you that Tyler Robinson was not political, crucial, and that he came from a family of Trumpers.
00:11:48.180 I want to be clear that I have never denied that the gun found was indeed Tyler Robinson's gun,
00:11:55.100 but rather I have asserted that the gun was not fired on that day and was not used to kill
00:12:00.120 Charlie Kirk. Particularly, we stressed on this show that he had simply inherited the gun
00:12:05.340 as a family heirloom because he is the firstborn son, but that Tyler himself was actually more of
00:12:10.680 a fisherman. His brothers were the hunters. I also have suggested heavily from the beginning
00:12:16.960 that Lance Twiggs is a federal asset
00:12:19.580 who gathered Tyler's belongings to pin the crime on him.
00:12:23.220 A very easy feat because he was his roommate and his boyfriend.
00:12:25.700 And I suspect that Lance himself is heavily blackmailed
00:12:29.500 because he was into some dark web stuff.
00:12:33.120 I also noted the rather strange predicament
00:12:37.780 that every single piece of evidence
00:12:39.620 that the influencers are pushing
00:12:41.340 relies on Lance Twiggs,
00:12:43.240 who himself probably should be considered a person
00:12:48.320 that might be guilty of participating in the events on that day,
00:12:52.120 who for some reason was immediately granted immunity by the feds
00:12:55.840 and was not allowed to even be cross-examined at this stage for this hearing.
00:13:00.360 Despite arguments made that his testament would amount to hearsay,
00:13:04.820 they allowed it to fly at this phase of,
00:13:07.640 this is preliminary, we're just going to see if we go on.
00:13:10.540 Now, regarding what took place on that day,
00:13:12.480 we suggested that the feds intentionally flooded the zone with multiple decoys. Different young
00:13:20.500 men, all brunette, all wearing similar outfits. We termed these our maroon boys, right? Decoys, 0.96
00:13:28.660 photos of three of them in a row right here. I said, why were so many men dressed like Tyler
00:13:33.820 Robinson on this day? We showed you footage of many more of these men wandering, all of who fit
00:13:39.560 the description of what we're about to see. And our biggest claim that we probably on the show
00:13:45.660 was that Tyler Robinson did not step foot onto campus on that day. At least that is what he told
00:13:51.120 his family. He was around campus, but not physically on campus himself. So in short,
00:13:57.540 it should have been remarkably easy for people to debunk us, right? Very easy. I was sitting there
00:14:06.220 actually expecting, open, and willing to have to concede at least one point for my investigation.
00:14:12.400 I mean, I worked really hard to be perfectly accurate, but I was like, maybe he lied to his
00:14:16.660 parents and he was actually driving on campus that day. All they needed to present to make me
00:14:23.320 look foolish was one clear photo of Tyler Robinson on campus. What we got instead was footage of 0.84
00:14:31.800 unidentifiable brunette males, brunette males walking up and down the Losey Center steps at
00:14:38.400 various points throughout the day. What was presented in court was a compilation video,
00:14:43.420 which I would like to note was Exhibit 12.4 in court. Exhibit 12.4, that's going to become
00:14:51.260 relevant later when we talk about the influencers who have sold their souls to the devil.
00:14:54.720 uh 12.4 was a compilation of blurry male or males plural going up and down stairs and people said
00:15:03.640 that's that's tyler robinson um let's let's take a look at that let's take a look at this video of
00:15:08.780 the males in 12.4 moving throughout the day um going up and down the steps
00:15:15.640 there we go and we're we're speeding this up i think right or we cut it short
00:15:22.120 This is the undeniable evidence that it's Tyler Robinson.
00:15:25.880 This is, and by the way, if you're feeling overwhelmed,
00:15:28.580 please sit down and have a glass of water.
00:15:30.880 We don't want anybody passing away looking at this undeniable.
00:15:35.460 They're like, this is Tyler Robinson.
00:15:36.960 This is just like attempted hypnosis.
00:15:39.620 This is, you're getting very sleepy.
00:15:41.940 That's Tyler Robinson.
00:15:43.680 That's Tyler Robinson.
00:15:45.900 That's him.
00:15:46.960 There is, that's him.
00:15:49.220 And by the way, I want to be clear.
00:15:51.600 I can't meaningfully deny that that could be Tyler Robinson.
00:15:57.140 It could also be Lance Twiggs.
00:15:59.520 It could be Ethan Hawke, Tom Holland,
00:16:01.900 Timothy Chalamet in preparation for the final installment of Dune.
00:16:06.120 Could be any of that.
00:16:07.160 I couldn't reasonably deny that it's any of those young men
00:16:09.520 or any one or number of the decoy boys on campus that day
00:16:13.880 who I speculated all looked to me like they belonged in a military unit.
00:16:18.540 But speaking of which, I think I forgot to mention to you guys that on the top floor of the Losey Center, of all things, it's UVU's military-affiliated student hub, known as their MASH Center.
00:16:32.000 It's literally a dedicated student center for student veterans and their families.
00:16:38.440 So that's it.
00:16:40.220 That's what we saw. 0.99
00:16:41.660 We saw brunette males, maybe brunette males. 1.00
00:16:44.540 I mean, I could even be a dirty, dirty blonde. 0.98
00:16:48.080 I'm not ruling any A-listers out of being involved on this day. 0.99
00:16:52.280 Actually, I'm just not convinced.
00:16:55.360 Now, Lance, the star possible Fed witness,
00:17:00.440 basically says it looks like Tyler in terms of his clothes.
00:17:05.800 Like, I recognize some of these clothes.
00:17:08.380 He liked to wear jeans.
00:17:10.060 I kid you not.
00:17:10.860 That was his testimony.
00:17:11.620 Take a listen.
00:17:13.200 Do you recognize the person in these images?
00:17:15.440 i wouldn't say with a hundred percent certainty just because of camera quality but that looks
00:17:22.120 like him in terms of the shoes he's wearing the sunglasses i don't think i'd specifically seen
00:17:27.940 him wearing that hat but he was usually wearing a hat um and then jeans so it definitely especially
00:17:35.940 the bottom the last two definitely do look like him oh they do look like tyler robinson
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00:18:22.060 Well, I say it's open and shut.
00:18:23.940 He said, he made it very clear that Tyler wears jeans, that he wears those shoes,
00:18:29.120 shoes worn by, we should probably look up how many millions of people wear those shoes. I mean,
00:18:35.420 I think I had 20 pairs of those shoes throughout my lifetime, but he doesn't recognize the hat,
00:18:42.560 not one of his hats, but he does like to wear jeans. And what are those chucks he's wearing?
00:18:48.640 Like, there we go. That rules it out. Really convincing. So I'm thinking, let's move beyond
00:18:55.640 that. Okay. Blurry video compilation 12.4. Surely they're going to be able to show us
00:19:00.400 Tyler's car on campus because what would be the point of a parking lot surveillance system
00:19:05.880 that doesn't capture the license plates on cars? That would just be foolish and a waste of our 0.72
00:19:11.200 time. Why would you even have an entire surveillance system installed on campus 0.95
00:19:15.940 that can't identify any faces or any cars at all? So the question is, did we get that a clear photo?
00:19:22.300 I was like, maybe he was actually driving around camp.
00:19:24.860 No, we got more blurry images
00:19:27.040 of what appears to be,
00:19:29.260 judging by the car's exhaust pipes,
00:19:32.020 a totally different Dodge Challenger
00:19:34.620 from the one that Tyler Robinson was driving, okay?
00:19:37.280 Here is what was shown.
00:19:38.720 This is a car, this is his Dodge Challenger,
00:19:41.480 and I want you to pay attention
00:19:42.600 to those exhaust pipes at the bottom.
00:19:44.480 We're gonna zoom in there, okay?
00:19:47.200 You are noticing that that is a dual exhaust pipe.
00:19:51.400 You see two, right?
00:19:53.740 These are your eyes.
00:19:54.640 I know the final instruction is don't believe your own eyes,
00:19:58.340 but I'm asking you to believe your own eyes here.
00:20:02.660 Well, Robinson's car, here's a still of the car,
00:20:04.500 which is clearer, which was towed out of his driveway,
00:20:07.200 features not a dual exhaust pipe exhaust system,
00:20:10.880 but it's just, it's singular.
00:20:12.500 Okay, that's a major discrepancy
00:20:15.140 that people are rightfully pointing out
00:20:16.940 amongst other things.
00:20:18.180 I got tons of emails from car people
00:20:19.940 giving me specifics about why this,
00:20:22.420 you basically, when you order the car,
00:20:23.820 you can order different things.
00:20:25.400 We don't need to get into the nitty gritty.
00:20:26.860 Just believe your own eyes on the car front.
00:20:31.440 Now, if you're thinking, Candace,
00:20:32.760 are you suggesting that someone else could have,
00:20:34.600 I don't know, rented a Dodge Challenger
00:20:36.920 and been driving around a gray Dodge Challenger
00:20:39.420 just so they could get images and say
00:20:41.440 that it was Tyler Robinson's car?
00:20:44.140 Well, actually, you don't need me to suggest it.
00:20:45.940 Actually, a witness confirmed
00:20:47.980 that they saw someone else driving a gray Challenger,
00:20:51.460 particularly a bald guy driving the Challenger late
00:20:55.900 at 12.47 a.m.
00:20:58.040 You know, there was that Nest video
00:21:00.280 that captured him returning to campus
00:21:03.280 at 12.47 a.m. around campus.
00:21:06.060 The woman who captured that footage testified to police
00:21:08.700 that she saw a bald man
00:21:10.540 accompanied by three other people in the car.
00:21:13.920 Take a listen.
00:21:15.360 Now, I'd like to talk a little bit about the ring camera.
00:21:17.980 that you obtained, and you interviewed a woman named Ms. Noble, is that right?
00:21:23.760 To get that ring camera that we watched with the car on the outside?
00:21:27.460 We interviewed her to verify the authenticity of the video, yes.
00:21:32.000 And were you involved in that interview?
00:21:34.080 With Ms. Noble, yes.
00:21:36.280 And do you recall what they told you about what they remember seeing in and around that car that night?
00:21:42.160 I don't recall.
00:21:44.500 I just know we were there to verify the video.
00:21:46.600 No, I didn't conduct an interview with Ms. Noble at that time.
00:21:49.300 And do you remember that the Nobles told you that the driver of the vehicle was bald?
00:21:55.580 I do remember that being in the report, yes.
00:21:58.020 And you didn't mention that today when you were talking about that ring camera, did you?
00:22:03.860 I did not.
00:22:05.060 And did they also tell you there were three other people in the car?
00:22:10.500 Yes, I believe they thought that was the case.
00:22:12.800 forgot to mention when we showed you this evidence of tyler robinson's car
00:22:18.600 that the person who captured it said that they saw baldman and three other people
00:22:22.840 by the way paging blake neff he did this weird x live that we're going to talk about tomorrow
00:22:28.820 where he doesn't his memory gets really fuzzy that evening apparently a few of the people at
00:22:33.320 turning point usa despite charlie dying went out later that night and don't necessarily recall what
00:22:39.860 they were doing. I think we got to try to help them figure it out, okay? Anyway, we told you
00:22:46.220 early on that it is highly unlikely, despite what looks to us to be like fed-drafted text
00:22:52.840 messages, that Tyler returned to campus to, as his text messages say, watch the canine officers
00:23:00.380 to babysit his rifle. Because we broke the story that Tyler was eating a steak down in Pengwich.
00:23:07.140 he concluded and paid at 9 47 p.m there's a literal receipt for that because as we said
00:23:14.160 he paid with his debit card so we can timestamp him three hours away at 9 47 p.m when he's
00:23:23.600 apparently texting lance uh it's three hour ride so when lance says that he gets his phone
00:23:33.400 and he's getting an automated message
00:23:38.780 and they start talking
00:23:40.940 and Tyler, he says the first message came in at 11 p.m.
00:23:43.540 Well, 11 p.m., I can tell you right now
00:23:45.860 that drop everything and look under your keyboard
00:23:48.140 at 11 p.m.
00:23:49.100 He says that's an automated message
00:23:50.520 and then him and Tyler begin texting
00:23:53.800 and he's like, oh, I'm babysitting things out here in Orem.
00:23:58.080 I'm waiting to go back and get my,
00:23:59.540 how is that possible?
00:24:01.020 if at nearly 10 p.m. he's leaving Panguitch.
00:24:06.140 He couldn't have been babysitting the campus.
00:24:09.100 This is the problem.
00:24:09.800 The messages are problematic,
00:24:11.220 and that's why they're not timestamped.
00:24:13.260 He could not have been doing what he said he was doing,
00:24:16.240 texting Lance after 11 p.m.,
00:24:18.020 or he decided not to mention
00:24:19.340 that he got pulled over by a police officer around 12.30,
00:24:22.080 and he just was just texting him in earnest.
00:24:24.800 None of the text messages make sense,
00:24:26.860 and we're going to need timestamps.
00:24:28.540 By the way, just a little fun ad
00:24:30.360 that the messages were apparently extracted
00:24:33.580 by a company based in Tel Aviv.
00:24:37.940 Israel is taking care of the Lance messages, guys. 0.57
00:24:41.620 Trust the science. 0.84
00:24:43.360 Let's pull these up, by the way.
00:24:44.720 Let's pull these messages up, okay?
00:24:47.880 11 p.m., allegedly automated.
00:24:49.720 Nobody knows why he sent an automated message.
00:24:51.920 Drop what you're doing and look under my keyboard,
00:24:54.840 he says.
00:24:55.740 Lance, what?
00:24:57.780 You're joking, right?
00:24:59.340 F. I tried to delete that, Tyler comes back with. I am still okay, my love, but I am stuck in Orem
00:25:06.500 for a little while longer yet. Gone with the wind. I love that. I'm stuck in Orem for a little
00:25:11.960 while longer yet. Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I got to grab my rifle still. To
00:25:16.760 be honest, I had hoped to keep the secret till I died of old age. I'm sorry to involve you. Oh,
00:25:22.060 gosh, I know. You shouldn't have said old age because the Fed narrative is that he was suicidal.
00:25:27.900 just it's a bad thing to say that you weren't the one who did this right i am i'm sorry
00:25:32.860 i thought they caught the person no they grabbed some crazy old dude they interrogated someone in
00:25:38.360 similar clothing i planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly but most of that side of
00:25:44.480 town got locked down it's quiet almost enough to get out but there's one vehicle lingering like
00:25:51.240 i'd like some time stamps here i'd like to make it work with tyler going to get a steak and
00:25:56.500 Panguich, driving three hours to Panguich, and then turning around and coming back. Just six
00:26:01.740 hours of driving and eating is not coming across in these messages. And then we have here, I had
00:26:09.860 enough of his hatred. Some hate just can't be negotiated out. If I'm able to grab my rifle
00:26:15.760 unseen, this feels to me like a person who is not native to speaking English, American English,
00:26:21.500 is translating.
00:26:24.100 If I'm able to grab my rifle unseen
00:26:26.540 is not what we say.
00:26:29.500 That's just not how we speak.
00:26:31.140 You can say it,
00:26:32.220 but it's not how we would say it.
00:26:34.400 I will have left no evidence
00:26:35.520 going to attempt to retrieve it again.
00:26:37.200 Hopefully they have moved on.
00:26:38.920 I haven't seen anything in the news
00:26:40.280 about them finding it.
00:26:41.920 I will update you by midnight.
00:26:43.660 Here is what I would like to do.
00:26:45.680 It is very important for us to establish
00:26:47.640 because he is speaking about the canines.
00:26:50.320 And I think I can, by the way, I can back channel because I talked about the canines on the show and I can go back to that source.
00:26:57.060 But if you have information related to when the canines were brought on to the scene, please email us tips at canisowens.com.
00:27:04.640 That will allow us to get a timestamp in there because he says he's observing the canines going back and forth.
00:27:10.380 And I, this could be exculpatory evidence.
00:27:13.400 the panguich steak and I think my gut has been right from the beginning our gut everyone's gut
00:27:20.500 that these messages feel a little fed sloppy a little fed sloppy joe more tips at canisowens.com
00:27:27.380 or tips at canisowens.com if you know what time um the officers had the canines there on the scene
00:27:35.220 anyway uh noticeably missing was any of that shock testimony regarding Tyler's parents
00:27:41.820 statements turning their son in. Again, we got to get an update from Bill Ackman on the mill.
00:27:46.960 That's a cool mill. A lot of money. To the contrary, there was plenty of testimony regarding
00:27:52.080 how Lance Twiggs' prints were on everything. The towel, the gun, the Dremel that was used to carve
00:27:58.220 out the messages on the cartridges. Lance claims, one of his alibis for that day when Charlie was
00:28:04.120 shot or had an exploding mic, Lance claims that he slept in until 1 p.m. How convenient. Charlie
00:28:11.340 gets hit at 12.23, and Lance actually slept 37 minutes beyond that on September 10th.
00:28:18.480 So convenient. And then he woke up. Here are some more devastating points of this hearing, okay?
00:28:26.860 Lance confirmed my report that Tyler was not political. If Lance is to be believed,
00:28:33.240 then their entire leftist rage motive about LGBTQ rights virtually just disappeared, okay?
00:28:40.860 take a listen did you and he ever talk about politics um he did more than me uh i i didn't
00:28:49.900 really still don't really keep up with politics very much uh he'd usually talk about stuff he
00:28:56.460 heard on the radio on his drive to work in like their work car since it sounds like a their whole
00:29:01.260 crew went in the same car most of the time but uh i wouldn't say super consistently because it
00:29:08.740 wasn't a topic I really
00:29:10.440 contributed much on.
00:29:12.560 How about Charlie Kirk? Did you ever talk about Charlie Kirk?
00:29:15.200 I personally had never
00:29:16.640 heard him talk about Charlie Kirk before
00:29:18.540 specifically.
00:29:20.080 Okay.
00:29:22.320 How about
00:29:23.240 political issues?
00:29:26.860 So did you ever talk about gender identity
00:29:28.780 issues and LGBTQ
00:29:30.160 rights?
00:29:33.120 No, not really.
00:29:37.040 Usually if he did talk about
00:29:38.640 politics stuff it was uh relating to trump or current like policies being uh like issued or
00:29:47.400 voted voted on i think but yeah oh i think we reported that there was a family filled with
00:29:56.600 trump supporters and you're telling me just he would maybe hear something on radio and talk about
00:30:00.960 a policy issue didn't seem a stress that he hated trump there you never heard him speak about lgbtq
00:30:07.220 issues that they are you telling me that people were trying to essentially launch a civil war
00:30:12.840 between the left and the right and the very people who claim to be fighting that sort of stuff were
00:30:18.040 actually trying to instigate it trying to instigate that left versus right gay versus straight this
00:30:25.660 was being initiated by the right because they just couldn't wait to hear anything beyond what
00:30:30.800 the fed was serving but there was even more explosive testimony believe it or not um and
00:30:36.000 it got really scientific. And it came from the ATF on the final day. This is actually
00:30:41.540 my view of the reason that the influencers went positively insane and suddenly pretend that they
00:30:47.680 were made privy to some 4K HD video footage of Tyler Robinson taking the shot on the roof.
00:30:55.340 They, of course, were lying through their teeth. We're going to get to that later.
00:30:59.140 But I believe that the reason they did it, the reason why they went insane
00:31:01.940 was to overcome the testimony of Caitlin Oliver, okay?
00:31:05.840 Caitlin Oliver was the ATF's forensic biologist,
00:31:09.360 and she gave a devastating testimony for the,
00:31:14.260 it was devastating to the prosecution.
00:31:17.820 These are the major points from that testimony, okay?
00:31:19.760 First, she explicitly admitted that the media's assertion
00:31:23.500 that Tyler Robinson's DNA was found on the gun was,
00:31:28.280 and I quote,
00:31:28.860 a scientifically indefensible statement.
00:31:32.600 Take a listen.
00:31:33.640 From a scientific standpoint,
00:31:35.380 you couldn't read the paragraph
00:31:36.820 that sets out the likelihood ratio
00:31:39.640 in your report,
00:31:41.640 whatever the number,
00:31:43.220 and then blast a headline in the media,
00:31:46.020 Mr. Robinson's DNA is found on this item.
00:31:48.820 That's a source attribution, is it not?
00:31:51.120 Correct, yes.
00:31:52.000 And that would not be
00:31:52.960 scientifically defensible, would it?
00:31:55.000 Correct.
00:31:55.320 tyler robinson's lawyer then goes through great pains to show that the media and the influencers
00:32:03.820 took what was essentially scientific jargon and they lied and i'm going to explain that to you
00:32:08.220 so i want you to lock in okay you may have heard them over and over again stipulating that tyler
00:32:13.100 robinson was a major contributor to the dna sample right so if you're uninitiated and you hear that
00:32:19.840 It sounds like it means Tyler Robinson's DNA was all over the gun.
00:32:23.660 He's a major contributor to the DNA sample.
00:32:26.420 But it actually does not mean that at all.
00:32:27.980 And I want you to take a listen to what she says, and then I'm going to break it down for you further so that you can understand what they did here.
00:32:34.600 And you can't tell us anything about when the DNA was deposited on the trigger guard or the trigger, correct?
00:32:43.900 Correct.
00:32:44.220 You can tell us anything about whether, when you say it's at least four, it could be five, six, or seven people with DNA on that trigger or trigger guard, correct?
00:32:57.360 Correct, which is why we have the major contributor that is suitable for comparison, and the minor contributor is not suitable for comparison due to that complexity.
00:33:07.080 And again, major, minor just has to do with the levels of DNA you were seeing.
00:33:11.160 It has nothing to do with someone being engaged in activity that is major in relation to the minor contributor.
00:33:20.480 Yes, so the major contributor is the majority of the DNA contributed to that sample.
00:33:26.740 Okay.
00:33:28.080 So I'm going to break that down further and why this is really big and we're building on something else that she's going to say that is explosive.
00:33:35.400 So the idea of what she's explaining is that like,
00:33:38.640 this is my mug.
00:33:40.420 I drink out of this mug every day.
00:33:42.260 So I definitively would have the most DNA fingerprints
00:33:46.100 all over this mug. 0.98
00:33:47.780 But occasionally, Ashley, my producer, 0.52
00:33:51.340 will go fill up the mug. 0.81
00:33:52.340 So let's say Ashley, when she fills up the mug,
00:33:54.740 I'm all on the handle.
00:33:55.540 Maybe Ashley just touches her two fingers here
00:33:58.420 when she fills up the water, okay? 0.93
00:34:00.420 She is saying that these are mixed samples.
00:34:03.120 So let's say they just took a sample right here of where Ashley happens to have touched it, but it still also has my fingerprint on it.
00:34:12.580 Ashley could be described as a major contributor to the DNA sample, despite the fact that this is my mug and the majority of this mug has my DNA on it.
00:34:22.880 Ashley could be described because they just carved out that one portion, which happens to have Ashley's DNA on it.
00:34:28.340 So they intentionally misconstrued the intention of the ATF report when they were relying on a sample in which Tyler Robinson was the major contributor of that particular mixed sample.
00:34:41.060 And he also went through great lengths to explain to people why they don't use, since 1996, they actually don't rely on mixed samples for that very reason, because it confuses matters.
00:34:50.280 They try to isolate samples.
00:34:52.080 She then confirms our repeat report, as you just heard her, that there was a minimum of
00:34:57.640 five sets of DNA on some of these mixed samples, four sets of DNA, could be more people that
00:35:03.700 actually were also found on the gun, but prints which were found on the gun, which of course
00:35:10.180 included Lance Twiggs.
00:35:12.120 It also included Matt Robinson, Tyler's father.
00:35:14.900 I'm going to guess that it also included his brothers.
00:35:17.260 and of those multiple sets.
00:35:20.980 And this is what is crucial and is explosive
00:35:22.960 and everyone should have reported on this.
00:35:25.240 They reported that,
00:35:26.460 she reported that Tyler Robinson's DNA sample
00:35:29.440 was the most degraded.
00:35:33.260 Okay, I'm gonna say that again.
00:35:34.380 Tyler Robinson, despite all of these prints on the gun,
00:35:37.560 Tyler Robinson's prints were the most degraded
00:35:41.360 or his DNA was the most degraded.
00:35:44.020 And I'm gonna explain that in a second, 0.66
00:35:45.780 take a listen to her say that.
00:35:47.260 The 1.3 sample is described as swabs of trigger and trigger guard, right?
00:35:56.640 Correct.
00:35:57.240 You didn't do the swabs, but am I correct that you have no way of knowing which part was from the trigger and which part was from the trigger guard?
00:36:10.600 Correct. So they were swabbed together, so I wouldn't be able to say where the DNA came from.
00:36:16.540 And that's one of the samples that was degraded, correct?
00:36:21.840 There were signs of degradation present in that sample, yes.
00:36:25.360 And you said with regard to that sample that that was a sample consistent with at least four contributors, right?
00:36:37.120 Correct.
00:36:37.680 And did what you term the major profile have the largest amount of degradation in that sample?
00:36:50.320 There was, yes.
00:36:52.620 Exhibit 1.3, do you know where that swab was taken from?
00:36:56.900 I'd have to refer back to page 2.
00:36:58.620 Can we refer back to page 2, please, Kimberly?
00:37:00.560 Thank you.
00:37:02.860 1.3 is the swabs of the trigger and trigger guard of the rifle.
00:37:06.040 All right, going back to page five, and we've had some talk, some testimony from you and some questions for you about the likelihood ratios.
00:37:22.140 What was your conclusion as to the likelihood ratio that you analyzed in this question in calculation number three?
00:37:34.500 I don't think we need this.
00:37:36.040 the DNA profile was at least. Okay. So you heard her say that, that his was the most degraded
00:37:43.640 of the firearms. And she's talking about the trigger guard and the trigger. She's not sure
00:37:49.780 where they got the sample from. And that's a huge difference because they kept saying
00:37:52.620 that his DNA was on the trigger. And she's admitting it could be the trigger guard. That's
00:37:56.760 just the cover for the trigger. And of all of the samples that were on there, Tyler's was the most
00:38:02.040 degraded. That is an absolute bombshell. And let me explain why, okay? Because it's not possible.
00:38:10.100 For clarity, earlier on, she discusses that DNA can stay on an object for a very long time. She
00:38:16.680 doesn't get specific. I can tell you, and you can research this on your own, DNA can stay on an
00:38:20.980 object for decades, decades, okay? But over time, it can certainly degrade. It can degrade because
00:38:27.440 it's been exposed and she does testify to humidity over time. Dust particles begin to set in. If you
00:38:34.760 just put up your grandpa's gun and dust particles are just sitting in your house because you don't
00:38:38.880 use it, that would be a reason that it might degrade. Maybe you had water on it, it might
00:38:44.520 degrade. It does not seem to me that DNA would suddenly degrade immediately after someone
00:38:51.920 shoots a person, jumps off a rooftop, and tosses the gun into a nearby bush, okay? This registers
00:38:58.780 to me as more evidence that Lance Twiggs simply took Tyler Robinson's family heirloom of a gun
00:39:05.300 and helped the feds set him up as a patsy. There is no reason why Lance Twiggs' prints
00:39:11.800 are less degraded than Tyler Robinson's prints on this gun if Tyler Robinson is the shooter.
00:39:18.420 It is a massive admission by her that his prints were degrading, given how much it takes to degrade those prints. So that was something that I felt that they were intentionally trying to gloss over and realizing that she's basically kind of asserting, like, Matt Robinson and Lance Twiggs had a stronger DNA sample than Tyler Robinson did. He was the most degraded.
00:39:45.260 And then, of course, when you couple this with the day earlier, the ATFs, every time the ATF spoke, it was devastating for the prosecution. The ATF ballistics expert was a woman named Samantha Carner. She spoke on day four. And she similarly gave testimony that was very in the weeds and scientific. And whenever they do that, I just start researching the numbers they're saying, because I know that there's a point being made.
00:40:06.400 And Tyler Robinson's defense did a very good job of asking her to read her report of the diameter, the diameter range for the bullet jacket jacket fragment.
00:40:16.720 By the way, it was weird off the bat that they said they took seven bullet seven fragments from Charlie's body.
00:40:23.520 She testifies that she only received four of them in an envelope, in a manila envelope.
00:40:28.660 so three disappeared. Of the four that she got, three of them were unusable. And then she was
00:40:33.780 left with one, which she labeled 6A. And that's what they're discussing, this bullet jacket
00:40:40.240 fragment. And she gives this a range of diameter. And it describes in detail why she gave it that
00:40:48.240 range and how confident she was that you were looking for a bullet that would be in this range
00:40:54.400 of a diameter, take a listen to this testimony and the range that she gives. The range of the
00:41:00.280 diameter for the 6A bullet jacket fragment was 0.286 to 0.301 inches.
00:41:09.340 The reason why that matters is because it's too small for Tyler's 30-06. That's why he was going
00:41:15.260 through great lengths to get her saying that on record, because a 30-06 would begin at 0.308,
00:41:23.220 And then it goes upward. The cartridge diameter goes upward to 0.471. So she's basically admitting it's not Tyler Robinson's gun. I would love to see this go on. I would love to see this go further because, well, if people are going to be able to see the full extent of this trial, you are going to really appreciate the psychological campaign further that is being employed right now.
00:41:50.100 the audacity of these influencers.
00:41:52.240 We return now to exhibit 12.4, okay?
00:41:55.200 12.4, again, is the original compilation footage.
00:41:58.520 It's the footage of Tyler Robinson or Timothee Chalamet,
00:42:03.600 right, or Timothee Chalamet.
00:42:06.480 Maybe it's Ben Shapiro, I don't know.
00:42:08.960 Maybe Ben Shapiro's a little too short, 0.99
00:42:10.320 but any brunette male, right, of a decent height 0.98
00:42:13.800 could be walking up these stairs 0.99
00:42:15.260 and they're giving us this compilation
00:42:17.080 of parking garage footage
00:42:18.640 plus footage of Tyler Robinson jumping onto the rooftop.
00:42:22.760 They made it clear, clear on day two of the trial
00:42:27.000 that 12.4, this compilation,
00:42:30.240 does not show Tyler Robinson taking the shot.
00:42:35.160 Okay, they made that perfectly clear
00:42:36.880 and take a listen to that.
00:42:38.700 If you wouldn't mind just describing a bit more detail
00:42:42.220 what this compilation includes.
00:42:46.100 The compilation shows the movements of the individual believed to be Mr. Robinson
00:42:50.900 on Utah Valley University campus, arriving and leaving in a vehicle,
00:42:57.040 arriving and leaving on foot, and then returning and leaving,
00:43:00.800 and then attempting to gain access again in a vehicle.
00:43:04.160 And his movements throughout the day are included in the videos also.
00:43:08.340 is there any uh footage of
00:43:15.340 of the of the alleged shooting there is not judge okay i just wanted to clarify that
00:43:27.080 okay so 12.4 does not have any footage did not capture footage of tyler robinson actually
00:43:35.960 taking a shot, who they believe is Tyler Robinson actually taking a shot. Also on day two, they
00:43:42.820 discussed a piece of footage that was born from 12.4, okay? They discussed it, and it was an
00:43:49.220 exhibit that was labeled 12.1. It was the same footage as 12.4, which we've all seen. That is
00:43:56.320 available. You can go watch that entire footage. You can watch that day two of the trial. It is
00:44:00.720 the same footage but except they claim that they enhanced the footage and they were very clear about
00:44:07.780 what that meant they went this was a whole back and forth about what does it mean you took
00:44:11.800 you took 12.4 and you enhanced it and here is what they said 12.1 was take a listen
00:44:19.000 let's return again to what spit marks takes exhibit 12.1
00:44:23.820 Again, you've
00:44:27.900 reviewed that video. Yes.
00:44:29.800 And the difference between 12.1, or what's
00:44:31.800 been marked as State's Exhibit 12.1, and
00:44:33.840 12.4,
00:44:35.740 if I understand you correctly, are these
00:44:37.800 enhancements that we've been talking about. Yes.
00:44:40.340 And specifically,
00:44:41.580 be specific
00:44:44.600 about the enhancements,
00:44:45.960 and let's go one at a time. Okay.
00:44:48.360 I think there's a reference to either
00:44:49.960 red circles or red highlights. Correct.
00:44:51.900 That's how Mr. Olson described it, red highlights.
00:44:55.340 Yes.
00:44:55.640 Do you know what he's – what is he referencing by the red highlights, or what do you believe he's referencing?
00:45:03.300 I believe he's referring to red ovals or circles that were placed over the image to identify specific individuals of note.
00:45:10.840 I think the next enhancement that has been mentioned that we've talked about is there's some blurring.
00:45:16.940 Yes.
00:45:17.420 Do you know what that – tell us what that is.
00:45:20.400 What blurring do you see in what's been marked as State's Exhibit 12.1
00:45:24.660 that you now don't see in 12.4?
00:45:27.560 If I recall, there were some individuals in the parking garage footage
00:45:31.260 and their faces were blurred.
00:45:35.580 Anything other than faces being blurred?
00:45:38.400 And then the last thing is, I believe, is there some zooming in and zooming out
00:45:41.560 that's in 12.1 that has been removed from 12.4.
00:45:45.960 What can you tell us about the zooming in and the zooming out?
00:45:49.040 Predominantly, it's in the area that was referred to as viewing the Losey Building rooftop.
00:45:54.720 I believe it focuses on the area where Mr. Robinson comes up the stairs and onto the rooftop.
00:46:02.720 Those portions of that particular footage were zoomed in for clarity.
00:46:07.920 So to reiterate, 12.1 is simply an enhanced video of 12.4.
00:46:14.100 What enhanced means is that it zooms in at the end on the Losey Center portion when we just see a blur running across.
00:46:22.360 They said we zoomed in on this and I don't know about you guys.
00:46:26.120 My experience is that when you zoom in, things become less clear on my phone, but I've never claimed to be a tech genius.
00:46:31.800 We're also told that it features highlights and they've added some red circles like we do often on this show.
00:46:36.740 And they also decided to blur some faces of other people that were in the background during the parking lot shots.
00:46:43.060 They made this clear. Beyond that, they actually showed 12.1 already in courts, but it was for
00:46:50.220 the judge and the witness only, except they made a mistake and they accidentally left their computer
00:46:56.440 open. So Court TV captured some of that footage and you can see that it is literally the exact
00:47:03.760 same video as 12.4, but it's been zoomed in. So great work from this ex-user at CanCon for
00:47:11.860 catching that. I don't know if we can pull that up, Sky. Around the 235 mark, he zooms in and shows
00:47:17.320 the video, actually. Did you pull that link by any chance? Yeah, let's play that. Let's play
00:47:24.360 this link so you can actually see it yourselves before we watch how the influencers reacted.
00:47:32.640 There they are watching it on the screen. Okay, now you can see that this is the top right
00:47:38.300 quadrant that you would be looking at when the camera moved to where robinson jumps off allegedly
00:47:43.360 robinson jumps off the roof now you can't see this here because it's a little difficult i'll zoom in
00:47:50.260 as much as i can so you guys can see but the clear like the clear identifying image of tyler
00:47:58.520 robinson you're going to see it on this screen and again this is at one hour 16 minutes and 27
00:48:06.120 seconds on court tv's day two of the trial okay so you're gonna see here correction it's one hour
00:48:11.580 17 minutes and 30 seconds he's running across now i don't know if you can see it because all he is
00:48:19.820 is a pixel that's all he is is a pixel he's running across right now watch i can see it just saw the
00:48:30.240 pixel that's it that's the enhanced version that everybody wants to condemn this guy on
00:48:39.200 again i'm not saying one way or the other here i am not saying one way or the other here
00:48:45.580 but that's the enhanced photo that everybody has seen in the courtroom that's it it was leaked by
00:48:53.500 the state. Fantastic work. He is correct. I fact checked that. We looked at it. We saw them go
00:49:00.920 back and forth about why they didn't want to play it for the public. And sure enough, they made a
00:49:04.860 mistake and accidentally played it for the public. That blur that you just saw. Now, granted,
00:49:09.700 obviously, we're looking at a video of a video, but that's the video. That's it. And 12 point,
00:49:14.960 it's born of 12.4, which you are free to watch yourself on day two of the trial. And you can
00:49:21.760 zoom in yourself and you can see it's still blurry. There was nothing identifying about
00:49:25.980 Tyler Robinson, but that's not why Erica asked the influencers to come, right? She didn't ask
00:49:30.820 the influencers come to demonstrate the truth or be honest about what they saw. So here is
00:49:35.920 Benny Johnson's reaction to the video. Take a listen.
00:49:39.800 We're outside of the 4th District Courthouse here in Utah. The Charlie Kirk preliminary
00:49:44.020 murder trial just wrapped. We were there and witnessed everything. And you have to hear this
00:49:49.440 because it was devastating what we watched and the judge ruled that you can't see the high
00:49:55.380 definition quality video 4k of tyler robinson committing the murder of charlie kirk but we saw
00:50:04.180 it and they played it on giant screens inside of the courthouse you can see clearly tyler robinson's
00:50:09.860 face you can see crystal clear the license plate number on his vehicle his movements on the rooftop
00:50:16.100 You can time it up to when Charlie Kirk was murdered.
00:50:19.740 And what you also couldn't see was what happened inside of the courthouse.
00:50:22.600 Erica Kirk was sobbing in the arms of her mother-in-law, Charlie's mother, Mrs. Kirk.
00:50:27.940 Feet away is Tyler Robinson, pale, sallow, bony, emaciated, staring at the floor the whole time.
00:50:35.220 Twitching and looking straight ahead, refuses to watch the video, refused to make eye contact with the family.
00:50:40.340 Emotional day.
00:50:41.300 the judge played all 20 minutes of the high definition security footage and the whole
00:50:46.720 courthouse gasped when it was over. It was really tough to watch. The prosecution has a demonstrable
00:50:54.080 overwhelming case. They said that multiple times. The defense has nothing. They asked minutiae
00:50:59.880 questions about DNA evidence, but the judge was just shooing them along as we get to this 4K video
00:51:06.140 reveal that will eventually be made public. It's already a case that is overwhelming against Tyler
00:51:12.740 Robinson. But once you see this video, you will cast out all of the demons that have been attacking
00:51:17.880 the Kirk family. It has been one of the most grotesque demonic evils that have been visited
00:51:22.320 upon innocent people has happened to this beautiful family. Once you see all of the evidence that we
00:51:28.260 saw today, it's over. And that's what the lawyers said today. Please pray. Erica Kirk asked us to do
00:51:34.100 this. Pray for a speedy trial. We have a right to a speedy trial here. It's in our constitution.
00:51:39.780 We don't have to wait years in order to get to a trial phase here. We want justice to be done.
00:51:44.600 Justice has to be done in this case and done immediately. So please pray for the Kirks.
00:51:51.460 They've been through enough. Time for justice for the widow. And just a word to all the Christians
00:51:55.220 out there. The Bible calls us in the Old Testament, the New Testament, to defend the widow,
00:51:59.560 to defend the orphans, to provide for her, and to stand up for her.
00:52:04.860 And so be a Christian today.
00:52:06.460 Be upright.
00:52:07.340 Please pray for justice in this case and a speedy trial.
00:52:10.500 Thank you.
00:52:11.120 God bless you.
00:52:17.540 I don't know. 0.97
00:52:18.400 It's so shameless and grotesque and dishonest.
00:52:23.080 And the amount of money being spent on this for these emotional assets to come out
00:52:28.380 and wax poetic and then not realize they made a mistake.
00:52:31.520 And now they're all kind of backtracking,
00:52:32.940 being like, oh, no, it doesn't actually show him get shot,
00:52:35.000 but it shows him getting into the prone position.
00:52:37.160 And, oh, they didn't realize that they had no idea
00:52:39.980 when they all started making these videos
00:52:41.340 to cover up the minutiae of the DNA.
00:52:45.060 They were talking about the DNA.
00:52:46.900 Don't pay attention to that.
00:52:47.800 Pay attention to the video that we're telling you
00:52:49.660 was exclusively shown to us, which is crazy.
00:52:52.280 But it was so clear at the very end of day five,
00:52:55.640 they showed the influencers.
00:52:56.800 influencers, 4K HD, perfectly clear. Everyone else was spending nine hours a day watching every day
00:53:04.520 of the hearing, but they waited till the end to give this gift to the same influencers who have
00:53:10.220 been trying to help the government wage a war against our minds. This is a psychological
00:53:17.060 operation. It is failing. It is, like I said, requiring an unbelievable amount of money.
00:53:23.080 And now I get why they had to file for FARA, right?
00:53:25.900 Like, I mean, people are getting paid.
00:53:27.820 There is no other explanation
00:53:29.580 for how people could lie like this.
00:53:31.740 I mean, I'm shocked.
00:53:32.420 I'm shocked at Benny Johnson.
00:53:33.540 I've never had an issue with Benny Johnson.
00:53:34.900 This gives me an issue with Benny Johnson.
00:53:36.920 How do you lie like that?
00:53:37.960 All of the influencers who came out and lied,
00:53:40.940 this word overwhelming, overwhelming.
00:53:43.180 The reason why they do that sort of repetition,
00:53:45.060 just so you guys understand,
00:53:46.640 is because it's proven effective in the past.
00:53:48.800 It used to work.
00:53:50.260 How many of you guys watching this right now
00:53:51.800 did actually lock down at home
00:53:53.180 and believe that you were going to die from COVID.
00:53:56.440 Wear a mask.
00:53:58.040 Six feet social distancing.
00:54:00.500 The evidence is overwhelming against Tyler Robinson.
00:54:03.100 They have shown, right, over the course of many decades
00:54:06.900 that these sorts of psychological operations work.
00:54:10.700 If you repeat something enough times,
00:54:12.680 it can become true for some people,
00:54:14.680 even if it defies common sense.
00:54:17.420 Like I said, I was willing to concede points.
00:54:20.440 I've been investigating. It's possible we got something. Nothing that they presented. In fact,
00:54:25.260 the contrary was presented. No, it's not minute when they're talking about the DNA. It's not
00:54:31.260 minute when the ATF is saying that the most degraded sample was Tyler Robinson's on not
00:54:37.380 the trigger or not clear if it's the trigger or the trigger cover. That's not minute. That is a
00:54:42.300 crucial detail in which somebody's going to have to explain. Somebody's going to have to explain
00:54:47.660 why Lance Twiggs is not being considered a suspect
00:54:50.420 when his DNA is on everything,
00:54:54.400 more of his DNA than Tyler's on the gun.
00:54:57.460 That requires a logical explanation,
00:54:59.860 not a unit of influencers that are taking money
00:55:02.420 trying to convince us of the opposite.
00:55:04.760 This, ladies and gentlemen, is a war for your mind.
00:55:08.220 I think you understand that.
00:55:09.580 And they put me on trial in a variety of ways.
00:55:12.140 I don't actually care because I'm built for this.
00:55:15.040 I am not going to watch Charlie Kirk, my friend, be assassinated in broad daylight, watch everyone turn their back on him for money and sit back idly and allow it to still go. That doesn't work for me. And actually, I am so rested right now and so ready for war that the last nine, ten months was basically me feeling weakened, having watched that in a state of mourning and feeling like every day I was just sort of
00:55:44.700 coming up for air, they're not going to like what comes next because I'm 100% ready for it.
00:55:52.440 And one of the biggest bombshells, which we're going to cover when we get back from a break,
00:55:55.640 I know we're over time, but we got to do it, is Ben Shapiro's admission. We'll be right back.
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00:59:27.500 Charlie Kirk was betrayed.
00:59:29.280 That is evident.
00:59:30.680 He's being betrayed every single day.
00:59:32.080 I can't wait to get into Turning Point USA and the crash out they had online.
00:59:37.680 Andrew Colvett finally coming up to the surface, deceitful, the Judas, no question.
00:59:43.700 My dream was on point about who he is and everyone is now seeing his character. 0.79
00:59:47.980 So much so that Ben Shapiro actually ventured out to tell the truth about him and Charlie's relationship while Andrew really was going to say that Charlie and Ben were friends.
00:59:56.280 it is actually one of the markers for me that something was very wrong was how
01:00:01.560 instantly involved Ben Shapiro was. I said this on the show. I said, Ben Shapiro is acting really
01:00:07.320 weird. He never liked Charlie. Charlie never liked him. This is a known fact. Anybody who
01:00:12.000 knows Charlie Kirk knows that he did not like Ben Shapiro because Ben Shapiro attempted to stop
01:00:17.160 Charlie from rising. It's just a fact. Like everybody else, when he began his career,
01:00:22.240 oh, that's cool. It's Ben Shapiro. I'd love to work with him. And then you find out
01:00:25.140 about Ben Shapiro's character
01:00:26.700 and how he operates
01:00:27.640 behind the scenes
01:00:28.320 to stop people.
01:00:29.400 It's like Megyn Kelly 0.76
01:00:30.000 has had that experience recently.
01:00:31.440 It is just who Ben is.
01:00:32.620 It's how he was raised.
01:00:34.460 And apparently,
01:00:35.320 it has a lot to do
01:00:35.680 with his father
01:00:36.120 who controls accounts
01:00:39.560 and uses pen names
01:00:41.680 to write nice stuff
01:00:42.600 about his son
01:00:43.120 and follows him
01:00:43.740 wherever he works.
01:00:46.020 There is a psychopathology there
01:00:48.340 without question.
01:00:49.920 Now, I kept saying
01:00:52.220 that I don't know how,
01:00:53.960 but I do feel that somehow Ben Shapiro was set up in this.
01:00:58.680 I'll pick up the bloody mic.
01:00:59.740 He races to give a million dollars.
01:01:01.360 His company is suffering
01:01:02.480 but he's giving a million dollars Turning Point USA.
01:01:04.880 Erica allows him to open despite what she knows
01:01:07.280 which is that her husband didn't like this guy at AmFest.
01:01:10.400 What is going on here?
01:01:12.480 What is actually happening here?
01:01:15.160 Then there was this really strange phone call
01:01:17.460 that I had with Matt Walsh
01:01:18.640 and I did not know that Ben Shapiro was in town
01:01:21.000 on this date when I had the phone call.
01:01:23.480 I'll talk about that another time
01:01:24.840 because we are pressed for time,
01:01:26.300 but I explained to my team,
01:01:28.240 I made it clear to them on that December day
01:01:30.860 that I just feel like Daily Wire
01:01:32.640 is somehow more involved in this
01:01:34.780 and I don't really know how.
01:01:37.540 Well, guess what?
01:01:38.060 The answer arrived.
01:01:40.020 Ben Shapiro shared something that is stunning.
01:01:42.740 It is crazy.
01:01:43.320 When we left, we were talking about this car ride.
01:01:47.060 Something is not right about this car ride to the hospital,
01:01:50.080 which Brian Harpole is suing me over
01:01:52.240 and using Ben Shapiro's lawyers
01:01:53.880 and Ben Shapiro's brother-in-law to do so, right?
01:01:57.460 Ben Shapiro's lawyers who have been suing
01:01:58.600 me and my family for years
01:01:59.780 because he can't earn, he has to steal.
01:02:02.720 And the courts is a great way to do that.
01:02:05.020 Violations, you violated a non-disparagement.
01:02:06.800 I'm gonna sue you, I'm gonna sue you, I'm gonna sue you.
01:02:08.260 I'm gonna sue you into bankruptcy.
01:02:10.640 You can't win without stealing.
01:02:14.220 Well, Ben Shapiro made this admission,
01:02:15.580 which was shocking,
01:02:17.580 about what took place in that very short car ride,
01:02:21.440 approximate seven minute car ride to the hospital after Charlie got hit. Ben Shapiro was receiving
01:02:27.340 live updates from somebody in that vehicle. Take a listen. I remember where I was when all this was
01:02:32.600 happening. I was in Los Angeles. I had sort of a breakfast slash lunch meeting with somebody.
01:02:38.840 And I got the news that Charlie had been shot and my security was on the phone with Charlie's
01:02:44.740 security because nobody knew what the hell was going on. Well, Charlie was still in the back of
01:02:47.980 the car, and we were sort of getting updates along the way. There's visual timelines that
01:02:51.600 show Charlie's body being carried to a vehicle within minutes of being shot. Apparently,
01:02:54.540 he was still alive at the time. Again, I know that only because my security was talking to
01:02:58.000 his security in the car. Somebody make that make sense. Go ahead. You're going to have to become
01:03:09.580 a conspiracy theorist to make that make sense. The enemy of Charlie Kirk is telling you that
01:03:15.560 he was receiving live updates during seven minutes, critical minutes, while Charlie
01:03:20.440 was bleeding in the backseat. While Brian Harpole, let's go back and actually show our diagram,
01:03:26.860 Brian Harpole stipulates that it couldn't have been him that was providing those updates because
01:03:30.900 he was just packing like 40 feet of gauze into Charlie's neck. And it couldn't have been Rick
01:03:37.140 Cutler because Rick Cutler had him. He had the tattoo. He was holding his brother. He saw the
01:03:42.880 tattoo with two hands because the door was wide open because Charlie's so tall he was hanging out
01:03:48.960 and there's evidence of that because they caught a police tail um then we have Frank Turek now his
01:03:55.060 story I will say is a little complicated we are told he is was praying in the back seat but also
01:03:59.160 Frank says that he started CPR but Brian Harple says no such thing took place because CPR would
01:04:04.060 have been the wrong thing to do uh while he was bleeding gets a little Frank Turek is an option
01:04:10.260 for sure. Yeah, Frank Turek is an option of someone who could have been statusing Ben Shapiro's
01:04:18.020 security during this time. We've got Dan Flood and Justin Davis. Justin Davis was driving
01:04:25.380 upwards to 100 miles per an hour. I'm going to say he didn't phone Ben Shapiro's or answer the
01:04:33.720 phone call of Ben Shapiro's security to update him because he was focused on the road. That would
01:04:39.360 make the most sense. If the story that Brian Harpole told was true, that leaves us with Dan
01:04:44.300 Flood. Either Dan Flood or Frank Turek were providing updates. But it couldn't have been
01:04:53.320 Frank Turek. I'm sorry. I've lost my mind. Frank Turek left his kids on FaceTime.
01:04:59.340 I'm so sorry. We're playing Guess Who right now. Frank Turek's down. He's down. Remember,
01:05:05.620 his phone. He just didn't even realize while he was praying out loud, his kids were just left on
01:05:11.720 the phone on FaceTime because that's what he was doing. So it can't be frank. You're down. Bye-bye,
01:05:16.420 Brian. Bye-bye, Rick Cutler. Justin and Dan in this dark game of guess who?
01:05:29.220 Which one of you guys called 911? Because they've never said who called 911 because the 911
01:05:35.380 calls that were released show that neither of them called 911. Is there a missing 911 call?
01:05:39.040 Why would we not have it? That's public information. Who called 911? Someone called 911 and then
01:05:45.340 called Ben's security or answered Ben's security's call and provided updates. So Ben knew what was
01:05:51.760 happening before the rest of the world found out around 12.38 p.m. By the time that video began
01:05:56.900 making the rounds, it was 12.38 p.m. If you go back and check on X, Ben knew sooner.
01:06:05.380 Because someone in that car informed his security that Charlie had been hit.
01:06:10.440 Rather than focusing on the chaos of trying to save Charlie's life,
01:06:15.020 they said, you know what, 911 can wait.
01:06:19.180 Ben needs an update right now.
01:06:24.980 I know what my gut is telling me about Charlie's assassination. 0.95
01:06:29.180 I've been clear on the fact that I believe Israel is involved, 0.96
01:06:32.360 and I've been clear on the fact 1.00
01:06:34.220 that there is something very dark
01:06:36.240 about the history of Ben Shapiro,
01:06:37.960 the way that he stalks and obsesses.
01:06:40.060 I've made it clear on this show
01:06:41.440 that it's getting to a point
01:06:43.320 when you get fired from a company
01:06:45.580 and for two and a half years
01:06:47.800 they stalk you via the court system,
01:06:51.020 there's something that starts to feel dangerous about it.
01:06:54.400 And I've been saying he's too close to this situation.
01:06:57.160 Ben is just too close to this situation
01:07:00.100 for someone who was not friends.
01:07:02.360 with Charlie Kirk. And the panic of which a bunch of influencers then tried to come out
01:07:07.500 and persuade the public that this was normal, that they were all receiving up, that they're
01:07:11.620 lying through their teeth. Tim Pool is lying through his teeth. He did not receive updates
01:07:16.480 from somebody in that car about Charlie's status. Jeremy Boring, who just wanted to insert himself,
01:07:22.560 jumped in and tried to pretend that it was my security that was getting those updates. I
01:07:28.440 confirmed that that is a lie. They said they were not on the phone with anybody in that car during
01:07:34.860 those crucial minutes. Okay. Jeremy Boring lied through his teeth. So who on Ben's IDF Israeli
01:07:43.900 Mossad security apparatus team, former IDF, was receiving updates about Charlie's condition and
01:07:52.300 why? And who was Ben Shapiro at lunch with? In fact, I'd like to know so much that if somebody
01:07:57.160 can provide evidence of who he was at lunch with because I have a hunch. I have a hunch of who he
01:08:03.600 was with in LA when this happened. I will put up $10,000 bounty on that piece of information.
01:08:11.540 Tips at CandiceOwens.com. 10,000 bounty. I just want to know who he was at lunch with
01:08:15.000 because I don't like this. I know what my gut has told me about the situation from the moment
01:08:21.120 that it took place. I know what beyond my gut and beyond my dreams, the statement from Andrew
01:08:26.820 Colbert, it was supposed to be you, was it? Was it? Is it fair to ask if it's plausible
01:08:35.000 that when Charlie was taken to the Hamptons, the phone call Noah wants to address from
01:08:39.600 BBNet and Yahoo, is it fair to ask the question if it was literally supposed to be me who
01:08:46.280 was supposed to be back on tour with Charlie? Did he say no to killing Candace Owens?
01:08:56.820 and then did he become a liability because he said no what did what did charlie turn down
01:09:03.500 from bb netanyahu while erica was there again the people that were present don't even want to
01:09:09.400 acknowledge the phone call i only got an acknowledgement that it happened from erica
01:09:12.860 in person who then said oh he was just following up on a letter that charlie wrote in may really
01:09:17.880 bill akman's house you put bb netanyahu on the phone he's just like hey i got your letter want
01:09:23.700 talk about that letter from months ago this feels like a good time i don't buy it guys
01:09:29.780 i think this is a darker than we could ever imagine i think baron coleman put it in the
01:09:36.060 correct terms when he said charlie said no to something way deeper and darker to the prince
01:09:44.660 of darkness himself i do believe that we're gonna find out more i am on top of that car
01:09:52.200 do not stop investigating, okay?
01:09:55.880 All of these side-tracking stuff,
01:09:58.120 these reports coming out,
01:09:59.740 trying to say this person,
01:10:00.920 oh, even looking into this
01:10:02.280 makes you put a target on air.
01:10:04.000 Ignore the noise.
01:10:05.740 Ignore the influencers.
01:10:07.500 They have chosen a side, okay?
01:10:09.680 They have made a decision to tell their souls
01:10:12.460 and their reward for that,
01:10:16.080 selling your soul,
01:10:17.060 will be eternal, okay?
01:10:20.320 Ain't the reward you want,
01:10:21.360 but it will be eternal. Eternal damnation is a reward of sorts, I suppose. That's my belief.
01:10:29.200 Stay focused on this investigation. We will have so much more this week in terms of
01:10:33.140 where we left off and what was going on in that car. We got an unbelievable tip about that piece,
01:10:39.160 which we described as looking like cardboard that was in the back. I believe this is what
01:10:42.580 has caused the mass panic, the reports, the influencers attacking, naming me. It is meant
01:10:48.200 to be a distraction, but I feel fortified right now.
01:10:51.500 And I need the rest of you guys to as well.
01:10:53.060 I need everybody to be focused, go max,
01:10:54.940 get more information, keep pressing.
01:10:57.320 They're already going to allow the trial to go through.
01:10:59.940 Good.
01:11:01.020 We will never get an opportunity to understand
01:11:03.440 what rules over us than right now.
01:11:07.580 This is the biggest opportunity for us
01:11:09.900 to really stare this beast in the face.
01:11:13.320 Everything is being exposed, just as Charlie expected.
01:11:18.200 He said his death would be associated with a wider awakening.
01:11:22.220 And let me tell you right now, my eyes are wide open.
01:11:25.160 Your eyes are wide open.
01:11:26.460 Keep them wide open.
01:11:27.500 Keep sending tips.
01:11:28.400 Again, I am looking for specific information regarding the timing of when the canine units were around.
01:11:34.660 I know they were eventually sent on their way.
01:11:37.080 They were not allowed to enter the courtyard.
01:11:39.080 That also became clear in testimony that they immediately closed the courtyard off to anybody but the feds.
01:11:45.120 the FBI took over that region. So we can now reasonably assume that the paver was telling
01:11:51.180 the truth when he said that the FBI made the call because only the FBI was allowed to make
01:11:55.920 calls about what was going on in the courtyard. The FBI then kept the bomb dogs away from the
01:12:00.340 courtyard. The FBI is evident, evidentially to me, in my opinion, engaged in a massive cover up.
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01:14:44.060 The influencers are the mockingbird media of our day.
01:14:48.700 Like CIA, Mockingbird, everyone say the same thing.
01:14:51.560 I think we all see that now, but it's just not working.
01:14:54.900 So I guess we're gonna come to a point where,
01:14:57.660 what are they gonna do?
01:14:58.800 What are they gonna do?
01:14:59.600 No one's believing them.
01:15:00.940 They're spending a ridiculous amount of money
01:15:03.060 on influencers.
01:15:04.460 They've lost the crowd
01:15:05.580 because they don't have the truth behind them.
01:15:07.500 It's gonna be interesting to see.
01:15:08.980 Comments from today's episode.
01:15:09.860 Melissa writes, I don't care what anyone says.
01:15:11.280 The wait will be worth it.
01:15:12.200 Welcome back from vacation, Candice.
01:15:13.460 I can't wait to listen to this episode.
01:15:15.260 I am wearing my Strike a Pose hoodie
01:15:16.780 while tuning in tonight.
01:15:17.880 Love you, Candice and the team.
01:15:19.200 And thank you for all that you've done.
01:15:20.460 The fact that he texted, quote,
01:15:22.420 some hate can't be negotiated out.
01:15:24.760 People don't speak like that.
01:15:26.240 It's ironic AF that Charlie was negotiating with Bobo,
01:15:30.840 I mean, Bibi, and couldn't be negotiated
01:15:32.680 into supporting Israel any longer.
01:15:33.820 I love you, Candace. Thank you so much. And I totally agree with you. It just reads to me
01:15:38.020 like when you're new to a language and you're too formal, that's what it sounds like to me.
01:15:43.080 And like I said, we have so much more to unpack this week going back to the investigation.
01:15:49.200 I do think some heads are going to roll, but we will see.
01:15:52.580 Samet writes, we are Charlie. Indeed. New to our writes, don't hold back Candace. You're the last
01:15:58.400 voice that he's got. Go Max girl. I'm not. It's actually all of you guys around the world too. 0.98
01:16:02.480 It's a chorus now, and that's their problem, is I may have been maybe the loudest because it mattered deeply to me, but I am certainly not alone, and I appreciate you guys for that.
01:16:15.180 Amy Riddle writes, I'm from New Zealand.
01:16:17.140 I have a first-class honors law degree and accounting degree, so I am not stupid.
01:16:20.360 I have yet to see any clear evidence, just screenshots and hearsay.
01:16:23.660 But what I do see is highly suspicious behavior from Turning Point USA and Erica.
01:16:27.080 I cannot wait to get into Blake Neff not remembering a lot of important things
01:16:33.540 regarding what he did on the morning of September 10th and the evening of September 10th.
01:16:40.040 That's interesting. 0.90
01:16:41.080 We're going to get into Turning Point falling apart tomorrow and their blatant lies, crazy.
01:16:47.360 The covering that's going on, I very much sense that they are nervous.
01:16:51.620 and it feels like back against the wall, lashing out.
01:16:57.180 Yeah, I will leave it at that.
01:16:58.820 And it's incredible what he admitted to
01:17:00.860 or didn't admit to.
01:17:03.180 Tarmac hug.
01:17:04.100 It's all back on the table, ladies and gentlemen.
01:17:06.680 Blatant writes, greetings, beautiful people.
01:17:10.440 Christos, vincit, Christos, regnat, Christos imperat.
01:17:14.200 Christ conquers, Christ reigns, and Christ commands.
01:17:16.940 And I really need to work on my Latin.
01:17:19.340 Sarah D writes, found an Australian article
01:17:21.260 reporting police were investigating an accomplice, but that angle disappeared. Some other stuff
01:17:26.060 disappeared, too. There was some other stunning testimony that we're going to get in tomorrow.
01:17:29.720 Now, Andrew Colbert is reviving it, likely due to growing support for Tyler Robinson,
01:17:33.820 throwing Lance Twiggs to the wolves. Yeah, I saw that, too. They're like, well, what do you guys
01:17:37.300 mean? Like, do you think that maybe Lance Twiggs—yeah, we've been saying for a long time that
01:17:41.100 Lance Twiggs is a federal asset. Like, why are you guys acting like—all you guys kept saying
01:17:46.000 goes, oh, they dreamed it. Like we have not spent hours upon hours upon hours for serious research
01:17:53.200 that's been happening. People driving down to locations, speaking to people. Amazingly,
01:17:59.780 Diligent Dennison went and spoke to the waiter down in Pengwich. More is going to be coming out
01:18:06.360 about that. And then they just keep pretending like it's all a joke. Like they were just going
01:18:09.920 to keep this up and feed slop. Oh, Candace is Miss Cleo. She dreamed it. Oh, look at this old 1.00
01:18:17.480 clip, this old clip of Candace making fun of herself regarding thunder and lightning. See,
01:18:21.700 she's dumb. Do you guys really think that was going to work? Who's making these decisions in 1.00
01:18:28.120 the boardroom? Like, who's the idiot that thinks that that is going to be sufficient enough to stop 1.00
01:18:34.400 this investigation. I told you guys from the very beginning, Charlie went out and a light bulb came 1.00
01:18:40.880 on. Dreams he was having in 2018 that were vivid, I started having vivid dreams right after he was
01:18:46.180 taken out. And no, I'm not ashamed of them. Keep playing the clips. Keep playing the clips because
01:18:52.660 this feels so much bigger right now. It's definitely bigger than me. It's as big as Charlie
01:18:59.560 predicted it, like I said. Cheryl Wells writes, my mom died this past Christmas, even was a strong
01:19:03.920 supporter of israel watching this i hope in heaven that she finally no knows thank you for all that
01:19:08.260 you do yeah i i i think about that sometimes too people who just genuinely didn't understand how
01:19:14.340 evil that nation is and now just so much is being revealed and it's for them they don't know how to
01:19:20.380 put the toothpaste back in the tube um amara musa writes you can't do cpr on a car seat without a
01:19:26.480 backboard yep we mentioned that the order should have been call 9-1-1 and stop bleeding stabilize
01:19:31.280 the neck. Anything else is criminal medical malpractice. Did the team have EMT licenses?
01:19:36.280 If so, we can report them to the licensing board. I think somebody emailed me and said they dug up
01:19:40.760 Brian's and it was from like 1996 and that he should have had one in the state of Utah. I mean,
01:19:46.400 we're looking into it. I don't know if any of that's true, but I would agree with you. Obviously,
01:19:49.980 I'm being sued for saying that what they did was incompetent. And now when you add
01:19:52.800 a call to Ben Shapiro's security team in those critical moments, I think I have a pretty strong
01:19:59.180 case that it was incompetent what they did. Just looking at the photos of how they didn't hold his
01:20:03.700 neck at all because I think they were trying to hold his shirt. Again, more on that this week.
01:20:08.700 Truth Prevail writes, missed you the past two weeks. If the trial is televised, you should do
01:20:12.100 a live stream with Barron. There was so much in the prelim that screamed slop, like how the kid
01:20:17.160 with the limp switched legs. Lance is sus and he seems like an MKUltra op. Keep going, Max.
01:20:23.640 I personally think that Lance is blackmailed.
01:20:28.760 Based on the conversations I've had about Lance,
01:20:30.420 he was into some weird internet stuff.
01:20:31.920 Easy person to blackmail.
01:20:33.740 And to get himself out of something,
01:20:35.580 he threw in Tyler Robinson.
01:20:37.300 That's my opinion.
01:20:38.840 I do believe that Tyler Robinson was around campus on that day.
01:20:43.440 I do believe he was at the Dairy Queen,
01:20:45.000 that he was depositing clothes,
01:20:47.220 which could have been his part.
01:20:49.860 I don't know.
01:20:50.220 Maybe Lance told him to do that.
01:20:51.860 showing up for his boyfriend all that will come out in the trial if they allow the trial to go
01:20:58.880 forward for the next five years is what trials take them that's going to be the length of this
01:21:02.560 trial right and what i mean by that is i believe the judge will grant it but what i am wondering
01:21:07.600 is are they going to take tyler out what is this weird narrative they're now trying i think erica's
01:21:15.200 life um if there's ever any danger toward erica's life it's not in the basis of what i've said
01:21:20.020 it's on the basis of what they're now putting out as a narrative this whole idea um i just i have a
01:21:26.760 bad feeling about that we're going to talk about more about tomorrow but i want to be very clear
01:21:29.500 as i always have been i don't want any harm to happen to erica kirk i have never called
01:21:34.760 called for people to harm erica kirk i don't even believe in the death penalty i think the
01:21:39.520 penalty i've always maintained is just too easy for people who harm children like a pedophile
01:21:43.940 they just get like to go to sleep effectively and people have to deal with the trauma what
01:21:48.760 they'd done to them. That's just one example. So no, I have never called for Erica to be harmed.
01:21:55.400 But the fact that they are trying to aggressively assert that narrative, somebody said to me,
01:21:59.800 like, what if they try to harm Erica and then blame you? Like, that's what it kind of seems
01:22:03.680 like they're planting seeds for. Is that possible? Yeah, it is possible. Desperate feds, desperate
01:22:10.800 measures. So if I was Erica, I wouldn't be trusting the people around me. I want my own
01:22:16.460 security, for sure. These people are dangerous. She knows that. I wouldn't want them to get
01:22:24.100 desperate, and I think they are desperate, and they showed that this past week. So I will leave
01:22:28.820 it at that. This person writes... Oh, I think I read that. We are Charlie. I got that. I want to
01:22:36.800 make sure I read everybody's comments here. Oh, I think that was it. That's it. So if you would
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01:22:50.780 like I said, feeling very refreshed finally for, I think, the first time since September 10th. I
01:22:55.260 didn't realize how badly I really needed to take a break. And yeah, I really do feel stronger than
01:23:00.900 ever. I was just literally sitting in a spa with Carrie and we were just like firing off tweets.
01:23:06.800 like I'm just ready for this
01:23:09.160 I'm built for this, I'm ready for this
01:23:11.160 I feel like everything in my life has brought me to this moment
01:23:13.180 and I have so much more
01:23:15.320 to share this week you guys so I'm really excited about that
01:23:17.340 thank you guys at home
01:23:18.200 just for your continued support and I see you guys fighting for me
01:23:21.460 especially this week when the
01:23:22.860 simulation could not have been more obvious 0.97
01:23:25.180 attack Candice with everything you've got
01:23:27.020 okay great, I'm ready for it
01:23:28.680 we will see you guys tomorrow
01:23:36.800 We'll see you next time.