Candace Owens - July 09, 2024


Is This The End Of Jordan Peterson？ ｜ Candace Ep 21


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44 minutes

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188.59363

Word Count

8,396

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601

Misogynist Sentences

15

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

What exactly is going on with Dr. Jordan Peterson? It looks like he has lost a lot of his male audience, and we re going to take a look at how exactly that occurred. Also, we have news that a doctor who specializes in Parkinson s disease has visited the White House 8 times in 8 different times. And Amber Rose is speaking at the Republican National Convention. What are your thoughts about that? Because I m going to tell you mine. Coming up on Candace, I m Candace and I have met and worked with him, and he has always been extremely kind to me, so nothing that I say should be taken personally. I m just taking a look objectively at something objectively that is fascinating, because it s really difficult to capture into words the international level of celebrity that this Canadian professor of psychology reached on YouTube, a celebrity which began back in 2017 when he began dropping lectures that were aimed at men with lessons pertaining to how they could order their lives. And I was shocked by the male response to it. I m sure you can relate to this, because I can t wait to hear my thoughts on it. This podcast is brought to you by the Humber River Health Foundation. Help us innovate to keep healthcare alive. Donate at Healthcarelives.ca/HumberRiverHealth/Donate at HumberriverHealth.ca. We ve always made healthcare our mission, from the discovery of insulin in 1921 to the promise of universal healthcare in 1966, now we face our biggest challenge yet, a cure for healthcare, reduced wait times, safer patients, the end of hallway medicine, we re finding it all here at Hiber River Health. - we re making it all about it! - don t forget to DONATE at HealthcareLives.org/HUMBERRIVERHILL. Don t miss out on this week s episode of Candace's new podcast, coming up on our new podcast Candace s new book, coming soon! and Amber Rose's new book is out in the next episode of . in the new season of , coming out on October 15th, 2019. Thank you so much, Candace and I hope you enjoy! - Candice and I m looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this episode of the podcast, I ll be back next week, Candice to you know who you re listening to this one?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This podcast is brought to you by Humber River Health Foundation.
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00:00:09.500 Canadians have always made healthcare our mission.
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00:00:15.940 Reduced wait times, safer patients, advancements in technology, the end of hallway medicine.
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00:00:30.000 So I'll ask the question that's on everybody's mind this week.
00:00:33.180 What exactly is going on with Dr. Jordan Peterson?
00:00:35.640 It looks like he's lost a lot of his male audience.
00:00:38.980 And we're going to take a look at how exactly that occurred.
00:00:42.420 Also, we have news that a doctor who specializes in Parkinson's disease
00:00:46.720 has visited the White House eight different times.
00:00:50.000 Eight different times, my friends.
00:00:51.380 No big deal.
00:00:52.160 Everything is fine.
00:00:53.140 It's totally fine.
00:00:55.180 And Amber Rose is speaking at the RNC.
00:00:57.540 What are your thoughts about that?
00:00:58.720 Because I'm going to tell you mine.
00:01:00.000 All that coming up on Candace.
00:01:02.080 Dr. Jordan Peterson.
00:01:18.600 Okay, I just want to say at the top, I obviously have met and worked with him.
00:01:23.200 He has always been extremely kind to me.
00:01:25.500 So nothing that I'm going to say should be taken personally.
00:01:27.660 I am just taking a look at something objectively that, of course, is fascinating, interesting
00:01:33.080 to watch because it's really difficult to capture into words the international level
00:01:38.220 of celebrity that this Canadian professor of psychology reached on YouTube, a celebrity
00:01:43.900 which began back in 2017 when he began dropping lectures that were aimed at men with lessons
00:01:49.360 pertaining to how they could order their lives.
00:01:51.580 We all remember this.
00:01:52.660 He subsequently dropped a book in 2018 that was entitled 12 Rules for Life, An Antidote
00:01:59.360 to Chaos.
00:02:00.520 And just so we're clear, that book sold over 10 million copies worldwide.
00:02:07.060 That is, nobody sells 10 million copies worldwide in any book.
00:02:11.380 It's unbelievable.
00:02:13.180 And shortly thereafter, he embarked on an international world tour.
00:02:17.440 I'm not kidding.
00:02:18.440 He sold out stadiums across the world.
00:02:21.920 And I remember watching this celebrity, just watching his star rise.
00:02:25.440 And I was absolutely fascinated, as I'm sure a lot of women were, partially because there
00:02:31.840 are very few people that achieve celebrity in their later years.
00:02:35.620 Jordan Peterson is 62 years old.
00:02:37.800 So we were watching a person become a 62-year-old rock star.
00:02:41.920 That in and of itself is quite impressive.
00:02:43.800 And people definitively do not achieve that level of celebrity by being a professor.
00:02:49.560 Like, so it was just be amazed.
00:02:52.280 I was absolutely amazed.
00:02:53.800 But there was also a piece of me, and again, I am sure that women can relate to this, that
00:02:57.920 if I'm being honest, I just didn't really quite comprehend it.
00:03:02.280 Again, it wasn't for me.
00:03:03.660 It was for men.
00:03:04.740 But I didn't find any of the things that he was sharing to be particularly earth-shattering
00:03:08.660 in his 12 rules.
00:03:10.740 And I was shocked by the male response to it.
00:03:13.680 So I'm going to give you just a few examples of the rules that were in the book.
00:03:18.520 One was, set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world.
00:03:23.740 Okay?
00:03:24.540 Another one was, pursue what is meaningful, not what is expedient.
00:03:28.900 A third was, tell the truth, or at least don't lie.
00:03:33.160 Another was, be precise in your speech.
00:03:35.900 And the last one was, pet a cat when you encounter one on the street, which that makes it sound
00:03:43.060 silly.
00:03:43.420 But essentially, he was saying, like, don't miss the small things in life.
00:03:46.400 And I don't know if I wasn't so amazed by this, because a lot of these kind of are repackaged
00:03:50.700 biblical proverbs.
00:03:51.960 And you should read the Bible.
00:03:53.200 And I'm sure that that obviously was a source for him.
00:03:55.860 But I was really, I guess, taken aback by the male response to it in a way that was meaningful
00:04:03.680 for me.
00:04:04.200 I actually learned a lot because I realized that a lot of men were feeling disordered.
00:04:10.500 You know, I recognized that for men to have the response that they did, clearly something
00:04:15.060 was missing in their lives.
00:04:16.220 And I was glad that they had this male example to say, hey, listen, this is a little thing,
00:04:20.660 but make your bed.
00:04:21.420 Make your bed in the morning because it means something to make your bed.
00:04:23.960 You know, stand up straight, kind of notoriously walk like a lobster, like have some self-confidence,
00:04:29.180 have some self-respect.
00:04:30.560 And again, it made me reflect on just how far feminism had gotten that we were making men
00:04:34.400 feel so deflated that it took just one man, a professor, to stand up and say, hey, you
00:04:39.440 don't have to feel that way.
00:04:41.260 And your life should have purpose.
00:04:43.100 And your life should have meaning and you should do things that give your life purpose
00:04:47.080 and give your life meaning.
00:04:48.560 So I was like, kudos, love it.
00:04:50.380 And as I said, I got to meet him multiple times.
00:04:52.920 I've spoken at events with him and I was very impressed with him.
00:04:57.020 Then things started to shift.
00:04:58.640 So let's recap what happened.
00:05:00.040 In January of 2018, so this was really at the peak of his celebrity, he appeared on Sam
00:05:05.620 Harris's podcast, which was entitled Waking Up with Sam Harris.
00:05:09.020 And he seemed rather incoherent when he was being asked for a basic definition of truth.
00:05:14.980 And people recognize this.
00:05:16.580 Perhaps they didn't overthink it.
00:05:18.440 But a couple of months later, in July of 2018, he sat down with Joe Rogan talking about that
00:05:24.020 moment, talking about why he was incoherent.
00:05:27.360 And here is what he said.
00:05:29.580 He said that it was due to the fact that he had consumed some apple cider.
00:05:35.360 Take a listen.
00:05:35.780 But I didn't want to not do it.
00:05:38.220 Apple cider, like what was it doing to you?
00:05:41.980 Oh, it produced an overwhelming sense of impending doom.
00:05:47.220 And I seriously mean overwhelming.
00:05:48.920 Like there's no way I could have lived like that if that would have lasted for...
00:05:52.460 See, Michaela knew by that point that it would probably only last a month.
00:05:55.500 And I was like...
00:05:56.160 A month?
00:05:57.020 Yeah, a month.
00:05:57.480 From f***ing cider?
00:05:58.980 I didn't sleep that month.
00:06:01.020 I didn't sleep for 25 days.
00:06:03.060 I didn't sleep at all.
00:06:03.900 I didn't sleep at all for 25 days.
00:06:05.980 How is that possible?
00:06:07.060 I'll tell you how it's possible.
00:06:08.560 You lay in bed, frozen in something approximating terror for eight hours, and then you get up.
00:06:14.620 Oh my God.
00:06:15.280 Oh yeah.
00:06:15.820 Not good.
00:06:16.280 And this is from f***ing cider.
00:06:19.860 I feel like Joe Rogan is all of us.
00:06:21.920 I'm listening to that.
00:06:22.940 And it doesn't pass the sniff test.
00:06:24.640 I'm just going, wait, apple cider?
00:06:27.020 You didn't sleep for how long?
00:06:29.060 What are you talking about?
00:06:29.900 He brings up Michaela, by the way.
00:06:31.060 That's his daughter.
00:06:31.560 We're going to get into it.
00:06:32.340 And that explanation does not make sense to me whatsoever.
00:06:36.480 Again, I'm not a doctor.
00:06:37.880 I'm not claiming to know how everybody's body reacts to apple cider.
00:06:41.860 But I just don't think that you wouldn't sleep for that long because of it.
00:06:46.400 Now, what followed thereafter was that in February of 2020, so that's almost a year and a half later, news broke that Jordan Peterson was seeking emergency drug treatment in Russia, according to his family.
00:07:00.120 And this was in a CBC News article from February of 2020, Jordan Peterson's family says he has sought emergency drug detox treatment in Russia after several failed attempts to overcome his dependence on a potent anti-anxiety medicine.
00:07:14.460 They obviously spoke to his daughter, Michaela, as she speaks out on behalf of her father.
00:07:19.920 She also has her own podcast and talks a lot about growing up with him and what she's learned.
00:07:24.640 And this is a direct quote from her.
00:07:26.440 He's had to spend four weeks in the ICU in terrible shape.
00:07:29.940 But with the help of some extremely competent and courageous doctors, he survived.
00:07:34.800 She goes on to say the decision to bring him to Russia was made in extreme desperation when we couldn't find any better option.
00:07:41.040 It goes on.
00:07:42.520 The article says that his family says he had been taking the drug for years to mitigate lingering anxiety following a severe autoimmune reaction to food.
00:07:53.240 His dependence reportedly started last spring after doctors increased his dosage to help him cope with stress as his wife, Tammy, battled kidney cancer.
00:08:06.400 OK, so immediately have some questions there.
00:08:10.380 So we're saying that there was a food reaction and then in response to the food reaction, they put you on anxiety medicine.
00:08:17.180 And then the dosage was wrong and he apparently had what appears to me to be a drug overdose.
00:08:26.020 And Michaela ends the article basically telling them, like, you know, he'll speak out when he's ready.
00:08:30.180 And that moment came in 2021.
00:08:32.180 Jordan Peterson was ready to talk about it.
00:08:34.080 This is a New York Post headline entitled He Was Suicidal and Addicted to Benzos.
00:08:40.160 From that article, it reads that he was struggling with an addiction to benzos prescribed to him after a violent reaction to a strict meat and greens diet.
00:08:51.860 OK.
00:08:52.780 And then in regards to his cider, the apple cider overdose or the apple cider reaction, the New York Post writer put this, quote,
00:09:01.320 But Peterson has previously claimed that he didn't sleep for 25 days during this time.
00:09:06.660 But the longest period of human sleep deprivation ever recorded is only 11 days, the paper notes.
00:09:13.560 So what they're saying is he lied.
00:09:16.680 He must have lied.
00:09:18.340 I mean, that's unless or he just broke this record from 11 days.
00:09:21.520 He not only doubled it, he added some.
00:09:23.600 He just added 14 days to the longest record ever held of sleep deprivation.
00:09:28.480 Or, as I said, Jordan Peterson was not being honest, which would mean that he violated one of his 12 rules.
00:09:35.980 And to be clear, back when he was saying this about having not slept because of apple cider, the Internet immediately knew that he was lying.
00:09:43.660 Here are some of the tweets from people regarding his cider overdose.
00:09:47.880 One person writes, he's describing benzo withdrawal to a T, an overwhelming sense of impending doom and horrific insomnia.
00:09:54.720 Another user writes, exactly what I just said.
00:09:56.880 Bro had the withdrawals in the worst kind of way.
00:10:00.220 Been clean and sober for over 12 years now, but benzos are harder to stop than heroin.
00:10:05.340 This last person writes, he didn't say apple cider vinegar.
00:10:07.620 He said cider.
00:10:08.760 My inference is that it was alcoholic cider.
00:10:11.000 And his reaction sounds like benzo withdrawal probably was combining booze and benzos for a while.
00:10:16.220 In any event, we aren't getting the full story.
00:10:19.800 And lastly, this person writes, when I was detoxing off of methadone, I didn't sleep for almost three months.
00:10:25.340 It is possible you're in a twilight, half awake, barely asleep with no real rest.
00:10:29.900 If you've ever, if you've never been through addiction and or detox from anything, then you have no idea what you're talking about.
00:10:34.780 So, yes, the Internet people that have lived through this understood that what he was actually going through, far from the story that he was painting, was withdrawal.
00:10:43.580 Good old fashioned withdrawal, which a lot of drug users obviously know can lead to insomnia.
00:10:51.760 Now, jumping back into the New York Post narrative.
00:10:55.140 Now, again, Jordan is speaking out about having had this addiction.
00:10:59.200 Jordan said he was prescribed a low dose of antidepressants to help him recover.
00:11:03.780 I don't know if it's from the meat detox.
00:11:05.960 I honestly can't follow.
00:11:07.440 But the dosage was increased after Peterson sunk into depression following his wife Tammy's cancer diagnosis.
00:11:13.260 So I'm going to be honest about when all this was coming out and it was all very confusing and it wasn't quite clear.
00:11:19.040 Is this a food allergy?
00:11:20.200 Is this depression?
00:11:21.320 Is this just somebody who's addicted to pills and doesn't want to quite tell the public?
00:11:25.840 I was having private conversations with people and people that are in the concerned movement going,
00:11:29.320 I don't see how he's going to recover from this moment because it just seems to me that if your entire brand is built on telling people how to order their lives
00:11:38.920 and then what becomes apparent is that your life is in disarray, how do they trust you again?
00:11:45.720 I think that's the big question.
00:11:47.060 How do they trust you again?
00:11:48.100 How do they rely on you?
00:11:49.400 And I had to examine myself at that moment because people were saying, oh, no, it's all about the comeback.
00:11:53.120 And I believe in comebacks, but I believe that comebacks can only happen when you are radically honest.
00:11:57.680 And I don't think people sensed, as you can see by those comments, that he was being radically honest in what had occurred to him
00:12:03.280 and said they felt that he was kind of trying to give a PR spin to what may have just been a good old-fashioned drug addiction.
00:12:11.800 So I thought maybe I have a chip on my shoulder because, listen, I didn't have a pretty childhood and I've seen drug addiction
00:12:17.760 and I do have a very low tolerance for it, I'll be honest.
00:12:21.800 Like when people are talking about their addiction struggles and I'm thinking, man, I wish addiction wasn't an option for me.
00:12:26.940 Like people that just turn to drugs as a solution for every problem, you know, it's hard for me to feel bad
00:12:34.400 because there are people that grow up in sets and circumstances that are so much worse
00:12:39.220 and they don't turn to drinking and they don't turn to drugs.
00:12:42.740 So I checked myself and I said, you know what, Candice, that is actually you just having a chip on your shoulder.
00:12:47.160 And maybe it's true that it's amazing and maybe Jordan Peterson, having a male audience that he has,
00:12:53.100 will actually come out of this better and stronger because he will share with the world how he was able to overcome this
00:13:00.760 and reorder his life, write another book, you know, how to reorder your life after a chaotic scene.
00:13:06.340 But that wasn't the case. I think men felt like they couldn't trust him.
00:13:10.220 They never felt that he was fully honest and it felt like there was a lot of him and his daughter
00:13:15.440 kind of trying to condition this in a different vein, whether it was talking about his wife's cancer diagnosis
00:13:21.000 and I hope that she's OK. I think that she is, which is amazing.
00:13:23.260 I know that she's recently come to faith. There never seemed to be that big, radical, honest moment that came from him.
00:13:29.480 Then we fast forward to October 7th, 2023, a day that will live in conservative media infamy
00:13:36.060 because it just was a moment where people behaved in ways that the public is never going to forget, in my view.
00:13:43.800 And on that day, Jordan Peterson did not tweet like Jordan Peterson, which is to say he did not tweet in a calm, rational manner.
00:13:51.820 Here is what he tweeted. He wrote,
00:13:54.720 Give him hell, Netanyahu. Enough is enough.
00:13:57.740 And he began trending and he lost a huge following, partially because he was perhaps not aware,
00:14:05.100 because I'm sure, listen, he's 62 years old, he probably is not aware of the demographics of his audience.
00:14:09.080 But it turns out that Jordan Peterson had a huge following of Muslims behind him and they felt that this response was not calm.
00:14:17.420 It was not dictated by rationality or the logos, which Jordan Peterson loves to speak about.
00:14:21.560 He speaks about how postmodernism wants you to abandon your logos.
00:14:24.880 It wants you just to react emotionally without properly thinking.
00:14:28.640 And it seemed that that's exactly what Jordan Peterson did on October 7th.
00:14:32.800 He wasn't asking for people to be calm.
00:14:34.440 He was participating in the madness of crowds that he often speaks about.
00:14:39.560 And people did not like that.
00:14:41.500 And you saw people in the Muslim community saying we will never listen to another word that he ever says
00:14:45.660 because he has not used his platform to talk about some of the hell that Muslims have also been enduring.
00:14:51.120 Time has obviously passed since then.
00:14:52.960 We're almost at a full year, just shy of a full year of October 7th.
00:14:57.120 And I don't think his audience has fully recovered.
00:14:59.960 But I can tell you that what just took place online at the end of last week was very strange.
00:15:06.940 I was watching this back forth and it was extremely strange.
00:15:10.660 So I will set this up for you.
00:15:12.240 Again, Michaela Peterson is his daughter and she communicates a lot of what is happening with JP.
00:15:18.220 So people see her as auxiliary to him.
00:15:20.700 Now, to be fair, she is not Jordan Peterson.
00:15:22.920 Of course she is not Jordan Peterson.
00:15:24.140 And we can't say that every word that she says should somehow reflect on what her father's viewpoints are.
00:15:30.240 But she did tweet this.
00:15:33.060 She wrote,
00:15:34.240 Yes, I think the Nazis on X equating Jews with rats and using hashtags like filth should have more content moderation and censorship.
00:15:44.120 No, I'm not retracting that statement.
00:15:47.960 OK, what?
00:15:49.420 You're just straight up calling for censorship.
00:15:51.360 I mean, saying using the hashtag filth, that is literally an English word.
00:15:55.340 And you can say that word whenever you want.
00:15:57.120 In fact, rather notoriously, I use the word filth to describe Rabbi Shmuley.
00:16:01.520 And I use that word to describe Rabbi Shmuley because Rabbi Shmuley is filth.
00:16:05.020 I meant what I said.
00:16:06.440 This man harassed me for two years.
00:16:08.260 I would be really, honestly, shocked and disgusted if somebody would dictate that I'm the one that deserves to be censored after this man harassed me for two years.
00:16:18.200 And I never called for a censorship or his hag daughter's censorship.
00:16:22.160 I just said, you're filth because you are filth.
00:16:24.840 And that is my right to use that term.
00:16:26.560 So for Michaela to make such a strong statement calling for censorship is not going to reflect well on her father, particularly because her father has said things like this in the past.
00:16:36.820 Take a listen.
00:16:37.220 Freedom of speech is a cardinal value, not because it gives you the freedom to speak, exactly, but because without that freedom, we can't think.
00:16:45.840 We can't improve our institutions.
00:16:48.200 I totally agree with what George Orton is saying there.
00:16:51.360 It is a cardinal value and it is true that we have to be free to critique people and to critique our institutions.
00:16:56.180 It's the only way that things get better.
00:16:57.800 It's the only way that the truth can get out.
00:16:59.660 As soon as you start censoring speech, the question is, who's in control of what dictating what should or should not be censored?
00:17:06.260 We just went through COVID.
00:17:07.540 I mean, the COVID stars online saying, you can't say this.
00:17:10.600 You can't say this.
00:17:11.560 These were radical lefties.
00:17:13.880 And it was a very bad thing.
00:17:16.440 Jordan Peterson has also tweeted this in the past pertaining to freedom of speech.
00:17:20.280 Free speech is not just another value.
00:17:22.340 It's the foundation of Western civilization.
00:17:25.100 Again, I agree with that.
00:17:27.520 So it's quite shocking that she would take this perspective.
00:17:31.220 But again, she is not her father, that people should be censored for referring to people as rats or referring to them as filth.
00:17:39.660 But what was more shocking was when Nick Fuentes, who is considered the leader of the griper movement, wrote this in response to her.
00:17:49.380 He wrote, your dad literally called me a rat last week.
00:17:53.480 Thank you for exposing yourself and revealing who you really work for.
00:17:56.720 Both of you freaks should be deported to Israel since you love it so much they can have you.
00:18:02.080 And he attached a tweet from Jordan Peterson, where Jordan Peterson did, in fact, write this to Nick Fuentes.
00:18:08.180 He wrote, you, at Nick Fuentes, really are a psychopathic rat.
00:18:14.500 So, yeah, now we're in a conflict here.
00:18:17.160 She is calling for the censorship of her father, right?
00:18:21.280 I mean, if you're saying the standard is just calling somebody a rat and it is not just because it is a phrase that's being directed at Jews, but because calling people rats is wrong, then your father would have to be censored.
00:18:34.560 And so when Nick Fuentes raised this obvious conundrum to her, here's what she wrote back.
00:18:40.120 She wrote back, oh, my God, were you called a rat?
00:18:43.960 Did that hurt?
00:18:45.100 I work for myself, you loser.
00:18:46.880 And I know that Jews' success is due to their above average IQ.
00:18:51.140 But I'm sure blaming a nation of people for your failings is easier for you.
00:18:55.800 I'm sorry, what?
00:18:57.260 But so now she's like, aha, yeah, you're a rat or is that did that hurt your feelings?
00:19:02.200 That just doesn't seem like a stable or a rational response to someone pointing out the fact that your father just said something that you're calling for censorship for.
00:19:10.860 Or are you saying that it should only be censored if it is being directed at a person that is Jewish?
00:19:15.020 She's not clear on that.
00:19:16.120 But what is clear is that Jordan Peterson jumped into this and doubled down on calling somebody a rat.
00:19:22.900 Here's what he wrote.
00:19:23.540 He wrote, I apologize for calling you a rat, Nick Fuentes.
00:19:27.880 Rats are just animals.
00:19:29.380 They happen to be an enemy of mankind.
00:19:31.540 So they are like you in that regard.
00:19:33.320 But they are merely acting on instinct, whereas you are motivated by a willful ignorance so deep that it's kind of a miracle in combination with a profound malevolence.
00:19:41.600 So I was unfair to the rats.
00:19:45.360 Hence my apology.
00:19:46.880 Take note, Michaela.
00:19:48.180 He further added, I don't regret the psychopath moniker, however.
00:19:53.540 You and your followers, I know your type, buddy boy, but you don't know mine.
00:19:59.760 OK, so parking aside the fact that it's written in sonnet form, which is something that I don't quite understand why he's doing that.
00:20:07.020 Jordan Peterson has built himself as somebody who is calm, who is rational, who relies on logic, who is a person who believes in radical free speech.
00:20:19.400 He's now coming to the aid of his daughter and essentially doubling down on calling.
00:20:24.620 This is, again, a 62 year old man calling a 24 year old a rat.
00:20:27.980 And what is the reason, by the way?
00:20:29.300 Because we should also say, what is it that Nick Fuentes said that garnered that response from Jordan Peterson?
00:20:35.680 And Nick Fuentes wrote one word on Twitter.
00:20:38.920 He wrote Jews.
00:20:39.880 Now, what was that in response to?
00:20:42.140 Well, somebody asked the question.
00:20:44.100 We know that Joe Biden is not in control of the White House.
00:20:47.200 So who is in control of the White House?
00:20:49.680 And Nick Fuentes wrote a one word response.
00:20:52.140 Jews.
00:20:52.660 He's saying Jews are in control of the White House.
00:20:55.000 And that garnered a response from Jordan Peterson calling him a psychopathic rat.
00:20:59.820 Now, we all know that Nick Fuentes has branded himself as somebody who expressly hates Zionism.
00:21:07.280 He expressly hates Israel.
00:21:09.600 And he is saying that Jews in the White House are now obviously in control because Joe Biden is not.
00:21:14.960 Now, to be fair, the Times of Israel has noted in the past, this is an actual article from them, all the Jews Biden has tapped for top roles in his new administration.
00:21:24.520 This is from back in 2021 when Joe Biden first was inaugurated as president.
00:21:30.880 And it goes on to say, Joe Biden filled the months before inauguration day, lining up a slate of cabinet secretaries, assistants and advisors, many of them Jewish.
00:21:39.960 It goes on to give us a rundown of all of the Jewish names, all of the Jews that they are saying are in his cabinet.
00:21:46.460 You have Anthony Blinken.
00:21:47.480 You have David Cohen, the CIA director.
00:21:49.380 You have Merrick Garland, the attorney general.
00:21:51.040 You have Avril Haines, the director of national intelligence.
00:21:53.220 You have Ronald Klain, the chief of staff.
00:21:55.500 So it seems a weird tweet for him to be so disturbed about.
00:21:59.740 Now, again, it's likely because Nick Fuentes has a very long background of focusing his attention on Israel and Zionism.
00:22:07.540 And that's what he is reacting to.
00:22:09.000 Also, because Nick Fuentes has called out Jordan Peterson explicitly for a very long time as somebody who he believes has more of an allegiance to Israel than he does to Western civilization in general.
00:22:22.860 Essentially, that he would put Israel before he would put Canada and before he would put America.
00:22:27.820 Now, I don't know if that's a fair critique of Jordan Peterson, but I do know that it is off-brand for him to respond by calling someone a psychopathic rat.
00:22:37.600 I mean, calling somebody a name, calling somebody an animal when you are billing yourself, right, as the calm, rational psychologist, doctor who insists on logic and that the better ideas should win is just going to be off-brand.
00:22:53.720 But we should also be honest here that while people are pretending this is about Jordan Peterson versus the Gripers or pretending that every person that we're seeing right now that is having a battle right now, it's due to the Gripers, that is not what we are watching, right?
00:23:11.160 Like I said, this began long before it arrived between a beef between Michaela and Jordan Peterson and her father.
00:23:18.720 It really began with people feeling like they don't trust the voices that are in the media.
00:23:24.440 And Jordan Peterson is one of these voices.
00:23:26.060 And that distrust in Jordan Peterson actually began when he wasn't radically honest about his addiction.
00:23:30.940 And then it began further when they saw him basically not behaving in the way that he instructs others to behave.
00:23:38.260 You know, there is a famed expression, those that can't do, teach.
00:23:42.600 And people are wondering if Jordan Peterson is one of these individuals.
00:23:46.440 He cannot do.
00:23:47.140 He does not live his life in order, but he teaches order.
00:23:51.040 Virtually everything that we've seen happen has seemed quite chaotic in his life.
00:23:54.720 His correspondence with his daughter watching this on Twitter genuinely was just chaotic.
00:23:59.220 I thought, this is chaos.
00:24:00.160 What is this?
00:24:01.000 Why do we have a psychologist and his daughter and his daughter's calling for speech censorship and he's not agreeing with her necessarily, but he's doubling down on using the word rat, which she says needs to be censored.
00:24:11.720 It felt like chaos.
00:24:14.080 Didn't feel like 12 simple rules.
00:24:17.880 And so that is why I believe that a lot of men have fallen out of love with Jordan Peterson because they don't perceive him as somebody that is living his life honestly.
00:24:29.040 I would, by the way, jump at the opportunity to have a discussion with Jordan Peterson.
00:24:31.800 I have no bad feelings about him whatsoever.
00:24:33.940 Like I said, he treated me extremely well every time I've ever spoken to him, seen him.
00:24:38.240 He has been very kind.
00:24:39.360 But this is a moment.
00:24:40.380 We are watching a shift in politics.
00:24:42.740 And I would love to know if Jordan Peterson believes that this shift is simply because there are people that are so awful and so rat-like and not deserving of our time.
00:24:54.200 Or if he recognizes that there's something larger that's happening and he's perhaps developing tunnel vision and thinking that it's because of the Groyper movement when in reality people are losing trust in the institutions and they're perceiving him as part and parcel of those institutions now.
00:25:10.840 Anyways, again, I would welcome that conversation with you, Dr. Peterson.
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00:26:56.340 So everything is obviously fine in America.
00:26:58.440 Well, the establishment, and by the establishment, I mean the CIA.
00:27:01.060 It is so obvious, you guys, the CIA is running everything and that Biden is a puppet.
00:27:05.980 It is such a ridiculous thing to call any of these things conspiracy theories.
00:27:09.420 You just watched Vladimir Putin when he sat down with Tucker, say he doesn't deal with presidents.
00:27:13.140 He deals directly with the CIA.
00:27:14.780 He knows who's in control.
00:27:15.860 Maybe you should wake up and realize who's in control.
00:27:18.260 But in case you needed more evidence of that, obviously, the entire establishment protected Joe Biden.
00:27:24.360 Oh, of course, those mean MAGA people, those mean little MAGA heads are out there saying that he's sick and degenerative.
00:27:32.780 And that is not real.
00:27:34.140 They just protected that narrative for four years until the debate happened.
00:27:37.360 And then overnight, not even overnight, actually that same night, they suddenly were like, he's done.
00:27:42.200 So that means somebody behind the scenes has made a decision that he has done.
00:27:45.600 And now they are allowed to tell the truth.
00:27:47.400 That is how it works.
00:27:48.160 They suddenly all tell the truth so they can look back and say, we were always telling the truth.
00:27:52.280 What do you mean?
00:27:52.960 Look at this clip of us.
00:27:53.740 We acknowledged that something was wrong with him.
00:27:56.660 Yeah.
00:27:56.920 No, we're not going for that.
00:27:57.900 Well, The New York Times anyways is now admitting or telling the truth, they've known this forever, obviously, that a Parkinson's expert visited the White House eight times in eight months.
00:28:10.220 Now, do you guys think that they just found this out?
00:28:12.080 Of course, they didn't.
00:28:12.820 But I'm willing to tell you guys because they have somebody planned that's supposed to take over for Joe Biden.
00:28:17.640 I'm wondering who that is.
00:28:18.660 You're wondering who that is.
00:28:19.640 But this is fascinating because now we're at least getting close to a diagnosis.
00:28:22.740 The White House is saying, admitting that, yes, he has met with a neurologist only three times in more than three years in his office and implied the doctor's visits were related to treating other people.
00:28:36.900 So, you know, they're kind of trying to parse reality here, not exactly giving any details.
00:28:41.620 And, of course, this is very frustrating for Corinne Jean-Pierre because, as the press secretary, she's basically been protected by the mainstream media as she has given answers for nothing.
00:28:53.020 And suddenly they're all turning on her and they're demanding answers.
00:28:56.160 And you can sense her frustration.
00:28:57.780 Take a listen.
00:28:58.820 Every time he has a physical, he has had to see a neurologist.
00:29:02.540 So that is answering that question.
00:29:05.000 No, it's not.
00:29:05.440 No, it is.
00:29:06.160 It is.
00:29:06.640 You're asking me.
00:29:07.460 Dr. Kevin Kennard, come to the White House.
00:29:08.820 But I just, I also said to you, Ed, I also said to you, for security reasons, we cannot share names.
00:29:16.900 Well, for security reasons, we're going to need to know them, Corinne, because, you know, this is our nation.
00:29:21.540 So we're kind of concerned about national security.
00:29:23.900 I don't know.
00:29:24.400 I don't know, Corinne.
00:29:25.360 I think maybe you should give us some more answers regarding whether or not our president has Parkinson's disease.
00:29:31.100 And I'm going to go ahead and assume he does, because otherwise you would be much more forthcoming about the details.
00:29:36.800 Why else, by the way, would a Parkinson's disease expert be visiting the White House eight times?
00:29:41.300 Just asking you guys, like asking for a friend.
00:29:42.860 Like, have you ever been like, hey, I just like to hang out with a random Parkinson's disease expert.
00:29:47.420 They just come and visit me all throughout the year.
00:29:49.580 Clearly, they are seeing him because he is showing signs of Parkinson's disease.
00:29:52.960 And what the New York Times is reporting is that the Parkinson's expert visited him when he came from the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.
00:30:03.700 He went to that White House eight times in eight months from last summer through to this spring, including at least once for a meeting with President Biden's position, according to official visitor logs, which apparently the New York Times just got access to.
00:30:18.380 So before they didn't have now they suddenly have them and they're realizing that there's been a pattern here now to be clear about what we're actually talking about.
00:30:28.060 And an expert went on to NBC and spoke about Parkinson's disease.
00:30:32.180 Now, again, he has not treated Joe Biden, but he has definitely provided clarity on the situation.
00:30:37.160 Take a listen.
00:30:38.500 Have you noticed anything that that gives you a red flag as a doctor?
00:30:42.200 Oh, yeah.
00:30:42.460 I see him 20 times a day in clinic.
00:30:44.140 I mean, it's ironic because he has just this classic features of neurodegeneration.
00:30:48.540 I mean, word finding difficulties and that's not, oh, I couldn't find the word.
00:30:51.740 That's from degeneration of the word retrieval area.
00:30:54.460 He's also overcome stuttering, though.
00:30:56.220 Could that could that be part of that, too?
00:30:57.940 No, this is not a palatal issue or a speech discrepancy, which is very different from a limino dysfunction, actual word retrieval, where you pick a similar question or talk around the issue.
00:31:07.320 Plus the rigidity, monotone voice.
00:31:10.340 Wait, go back to that.
00:31:11.040 The rigidity.
00:31:11.600 What do you mean?
00:31:12.020 Rigidity, loss of arm swing, standing up lordotically.
00:31:15.400 You notice when he turns, it's kind of end block turning.
00:31:18.060 It's not a quick turn.
00:31:19.880 So that's one of the hallmarks of Parkinsonism is rigidity and bradykinesia, slow movement.
00:31:25.940 And he has that hallmark, especially with the low voice that said was a cold, hypophonia, a small, monotone voice like this over time is a hallmark of Parkinsonism.
00:31:36.400 I could have diagnosed him from across the mall.
00:31:38.280 You could have diagnosed him from across the hall.
00:31:41.340 And yes, of course, we know, I'll know when he does this and we probably should have known that they all knew we had Parkinson's disease, people.
00:31:49.440 Every last single one of them.
00:31:50.960 So you can miss me entirely with these NBC news segments pretending, oh, my God, now we want to have the experts in to talk about what they're seeing.
00:31:58.300 That is Dr. Tom Pitts.
00:31:59.660 And he is obviously being honest.
00:32:01.400 To be clear, he's a board certified neurologist.
00:32:03.720 But the problem is that he was asked to go on and to diagnose him way too late, way too late.
00:32:09.420 And so, yes, it does beg the question of who is controlling the White House.
00:32:13.080 Obviously, it is, in fact, his cabinet that is controlling the White House.
00:32:16.680 And it is, in fact, the CIA, which is directing and coordinating with his cabinet in terms of what they want done.
00:32:22.580 And so we now have to think seriously about who they're going to replace him with because that's done.
00:32:26.960 It's already been decided how they're going to do it.
00:32:29.800 I'm not so clear on when exactly they're going to do it.
00:32:32.040 I'm not so clear on.
00:32:32.880 But they have made the decision to get rid of Joe Biden.
00:32:35.660 And if you are still a liberal, if you're still on the left and you are watching this play out and you actually believe that they just noticed it for the first time ever during the debates, you need to wake up.
00:32:46.760 You genuinely need to wake up because we are just ever so close to losing this country.
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00:34:12.360 All right, guys, obviously, Joe Biden is barely able to put together a statement because it looks like he has Parkinson's disease and he's known for a very long time.
00:34:21.520 And by the way, in a normal circumstance, we would be saying, oh, my gosh, I feel obviously very bad for him.
00:34:27.620 And there have been so many examples of people who are living with Parkinson's for a long time.
00:34:32.100 And it is a struggle that people live with.
00:34:34.740 But you can, in fact, live with Parkinson's and have a meaningful life.
00:34:37.480 These are not normal circumstances, right?
00:34:39.060 This is not a normal circumstance.
00:34:40.920 This isn't like somebody's grandfather at home that's going through this.
00:34:43.640 This is the president of the United States who cannot put together a statement.
00:34:48.400 That is problematic.
00:34:50.440 Somebody who can put together a statement, who can put together sentences, is Amber Rose.
00:34:56.420 Wow.
00:34:57.000 OK, so in case you missed it, Amber Rose, she is a model.
00:35:02.320 She kind of notoriously hit the scene many moons ago when she began dating rapper Kanye West.
00:35:08.580 And she's kind of stayed in the public sphere since.
00:35:11.880 Well, she is now speaking at the RNC convention.
00:35:16.480 She is slated to speak at the RNC convention next week.
00:35:19.040 I'm going to show you this photo of her having announced that on Instagram.
00:35:23.540 She wrote Trump 2024.
00:35:25.300 It's true.
00:35:25.900 I'm speaking at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.
00:35:28.860 Hashtag MAGA.
00:35:29.740 And so she sort of came out as a Trump supporter.
00:35:32.600 I think I showed you a few weeks back when she was wearing the MAGA hat and people were
00:35:37.340 coming after her.
00:35:38.240 She lost tons of followers.
00:35:39.520 People were telling her she's canceled because obviously you're not allowed to be a conservative
00:35:42.540 in Hollywood.
00:35:43.820 But taking it a step further, if you can't be a conservative, you definitively cannot be
00:35:47.080 a Trump supporter and speaking about it publicly.
00:35:49.260 So she made a lot of no-nos by doing this.
00:35:52.800 People were outraged.
00:35:54.340 The TMZ began following her.
00:35:55.960 And I showed you that video of her saying, but Amber, what about the slut walk?
00:35:59.640 Weren't you a slut?
00:36:01.100 Aren't you with us?
00:36:02.040 Aren't you a feminist?
00:36:02.980 Aren't you woke?
00:36:03.680 And she basically shut them down.
00:36:06.540 And I was proud of her because she just was basically saying, this is who I was.
00:36:11.040 That may have been who I was, pardon, but this is who I am.
00:36:13.940 And what the media constantly tries to tell people is that they can't transform.
00:36:17.480 This has been kind of the biggest thing that I've even noticed about people that are radically
00:36:21.360 pro-choice.
00:36:22.580 They're not even being motivated by the fact that they believe these things anymore.
00:36:26.020 They just are so ashamed of the fact that they have gotten abortions in the past and
00:36:28.940 they don't think they're allowed to transform.
00:36:30.980 They don't believe that there is a platform for them that will welcome them and use their
00:36:34.580 experiences to speak out to other women and stop them from making those same mistakes.
00:36:40.060 You can transform.
00:36:42.060 And so I am going to give Amber Rose the runway to transform.
00:36:46.600 I actually had a conversation with her and I sense that she is very genuine.
00:36:51.500 She is at the very beginning of her journey.
00:36:54.440 She had a lot of questions and it was a very riveting discussion in understanding how she
00:37:00.160 got to where she was when she started realizing that things were wrong.
00:37:03.700 So yes, Amber Rose was legitimately a person that was putting on the slut walk and she believed
00:37:08.180 those things when she was putting on the slut walk.
00:37:10.480 And then things transformed for her and she wanted to understand why the things that she
00:37:16.180 believed in suddenly were inauthentic or recognizing that they were actually causing damage.
00:37:21.500 And she wanted to understand why she wasn't allowed to be someone else in Hollywood.
00:37:26.000 So she's pursuing those questions and she will therefore find the answers.
00:37:31.440 This does not turn her into a saint overnight.
00:37:34.480 Give her grace.
00:37:35.720 Allow her to learn slowly.
00:37:37.320 It's one of the worst things about being a public figure is people, there's no grace,
00:37:41.560 you know, so they're going to expect her tomorrow, you know, to be a Catholic nun.
00:37:45.660 And that's not how these things happen.
00:37:47.500 She's starting with the understanding that something is not right.
00:37:49.740 She's starting with the understanding that her values in terms of what is happening in
00:37:54.580 American society financially, in terms of what is happening in the treatment of our troops
00:38:00.520 and the treatment of our veterans is something that no longer feels right to her.
00:38:05.080 Let her be there.
00:38:06.420 Let her speak out about what she actually believes and don't put too much pressure on her.
00:38:10.700 People need time to learn.
00:38:12.040 People need time to transform.
00:38:14.100 And I'm praying for her.
00:38:15.740 I really am.
00:38:16.160 I think that she could make a big, big difference for a lot of women who similarly feel trapped
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00:40:10.940 Now it's time to jump into some of your comments.
00:40:13.920 So regarding the Diddy episode, is he a Fed?
00:40:22.640 Is he not a Fed?
00:40:23.580 I think Diddy is a Fed.
00:40:25.700 This person writes, the saying in the United States, no one is above the law, is one of
00:40:29.040 the biggest lies of this country.
00:40:30.780 Yes, there are many people above the law.
00:40:32.200 In fact, they are the law.
00:40:33.560 They are the people that are making the decisions in this country, which is why we should all
00:40:36.980 be outraged regarding the most annoying person in the entire world that I found on Instagram.
00:40:43.560 The influencer, the way that she wants to influence the world, is by tearing apart women on their
00:40:47.700 wedding day, by talking about how their dresses relate to slavery and racism and sexism and
00:40:54.380 misogyny and the patriarchy and the Holocaust and everything.
00:40:59.180 Yeah, she was absolutely awful.
00:41:00.860 This person writes,
00:41:01.460 Yes, I totally agree with you, and make no mistake, it had nothing to do with anything
00:41:13.900 other than the fact that she was conservative, which is why she brought up the sacrament.
00:41:17.440 She's like, oh, why did she bring up a sacrament?
00:41:19.500 Ah, marriage is not a sacrament.
00:41:21.460 I mean, she was just a total witch.
00:41:23.660 That woman was a witch.
00:41:24.880 That's all I can say about that.
00:41:26.280 I don't want to hang out with her.
00:41:27.840 I don't want to be around her.
00:41:29.280 This person writes,
00:41:29.960 Yes, that is another very good point.
00:41:40.860 I believe that you should be modest, not just on your wedding day, but every day when you
00:41:44.740 are in a relationship, because who are you trying to attract?
00:41:47.580 And I just don't think these things end well.
00:41:49.700 Like, it doesn't age well.
00:41:51.420 Obviously, everybody knows that the most beautiful bride ever, she is the vibe.
00:41:57.420 She is the moment forever, is grace of Monaco.
00:42:02.180 Come on, guys.
00:42:02.760 Here's a little picture.
00:42:03.800 She just was absolutely stunning on her wedding day, and I think she is always the aim.
00:42:09.100 I know we all have different tastes, but can everybody just emulate her forever and for
00:42:12.600 always?
00:42:13.120 And I will say that Olivia Coppola looked absolutely beautiful, and of course, she is
00:42:16.920 dealing with the situation with so much grace and so much kindness, because she's a better
00:42:21.120 person than me, because I would have just came right after that girl.
00:42:23.760 I would just come at her like a spider monkey if she was at me like that on my wedding day.
00:42:28.220 But, you know, back to acting like Princess Grace of Monaco.
00:42:31.920 Now, a couple of comments also pertaining to Cat Williams.
00:42:34.720 Remember, he predicted the Diddy thing, which was very interesting.
00:42:38.440 It was almost like Cat Williams knew something.
00:42:40.880 He was like, next year, it's all going to be revealed.
00:42:42.680 And then suddenly, it all was revealed in 2024.
00:42:45.020 What is going on?
00:42:45.820 This person writes, can you imagine Candace interviewing Cat Williams?
00:42:49.040 Oh, my goodness.
00:42:49.720 That'll be wild.
00:42:50.540 In the words of Kamala Harris, that episode will unburden us all from the lies of the past.
00:42:55.500 Ladies and gentlemen, I am trying with all my might.
00:42:58.260 Please tag him at Cat Williams.
00:43:00.280 You need to talk to Candace Owens.
00:43:01.320 Do it over and over again.
00:43:02.360 I will sit in a room with Cat Williams for six hours, and we will just go head to head
00:43:07.580 on what we know.
00:43:08.360 I'm like, what do you know?
00:43:09.000 What do you know?
00:43:09.460 What do you know?
00:43:09.940 How come you brought up Baphomet?
00:43:11.140 How come you knew about the transgender?
00:43:12.200 What are you saying, Cat Williams?
00:43:13.380 I want to know what's going on, Cat Williams.
00:43:14.400 Me and Cat Williams need to be put in a room together for six hours.
00:43:17.740 Everybody knows this.
00:43:18.520 Conversation must be recorded.
00:43:20.280 And so just harass him, and we will do our best to make it happen.
00:43:23.740 All right, guys.
00:43:24.080 Unfortunately, that is all the time that we have for today.
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