Candace Owens - IT’S OFFICIAL： Justin Bieber Unfollows Usher ｜ Candace Ep 132

00:00:00.000 All right, guys, happy Tuesday. And I'm so sorry I'm running late. I really should not play with your emotions like that. You guys probably thought that I got assassinated by the French president and his husband. I did not. I was genuinely running late. I had a lot of stuff going on at the home today with the kitties. But OK, I'm here and there's a lot to cover. The Bieber, Justin Bieber, is continuing the purge. He has now moved to unfollow Usher, OK, his original mentor.

00:00:23.440 So this is a very big story. And the reason why we should discuss this and we should not diminish what is happening, it's not celebrity drama. This is actually the fall of Babylon that we are witnessing. Hollywood Babylon, that is. Also, TikTok users have me in stitches. They are fleeing the app and joining Red Note, which is a Chinese version of TikTok and Instagram in anticipation of the ban on their speech.

00:00:48.100 And later on, I'm going to go over my viral debate with Michaela Petersen, because I saw you guys in the comments saying, are you going to talk about the debate with Michaela Petersen? OK, we'll do it today if that's what you want. Welcome back to Candace.

00:00:58.300 All right, guys, so here's what we have going on. Justin Bieber has moved to unfollow Usher. And yes, like I said, this is a very big deal. I'm going to tell you everything that is happening right now.

00:01:23.920 Now, we went over the timeline last week. OK, Justin was signed when he was just 13 years old.

00:01:30.080 And I should mention he was signed by Usher to a label that was owned jointly by both Scooter Braun and Usher.

00:01:36.020 And he was considered Usher's protege. He has been described Usher as his mentor, which is why his adorable premiere music video that I showed you guys last week entitled One Time.

00:01:47.020 They had created this storyline in which a young Justin Bieber is playing video games with his friends and Usher calls him and says that he's running late.

00:01:57.240 You know, his big bro Usher calls him and then Justin Bieber does the teenager thing and throws a party while Usher is out.

00:02:03.280 So take a look at the beginning of that music video now.

00:02:08.760 Oh, oh, three. That was not luck. That was skill. Yo, I'm killing you.

00:02:17.020 Yo, Usher. JB, what's up, man? 0.98

00:02:24.160 I'm just playing video games with Ryan. You think you can hold the house down till I get back?

00:02:28.120 Yeah, I can do that. All right. My man. Yo.

00:02:33.240 And that's how it starts. And then all of a sudden he has a party.

00:02:36.000 And like I said, you can imagine for a 13 year old kid, I think he's 14 in the video.

00:02:39.900 What a big deal. You're with Usher, one of the princes of R&B.

00:02:44.600 And now he's your mentor and you're doing what you love. You're singing songs.

00:02:48.520 And their long relationship has been well documented throughout the media.

00:02:51.860 Most notably, when Justin Bieber and Hailey Bieber got married back in 2019, Usher was on the very short list of invites.

00:02:59.560 So I'm showing you this photo of Usher at Justin Bieber's wedding.

00:03:02.440 You see the date there, September 30th, 2019.

00:03:04.800 The Bieber's, he's smiling. He's looking happy.

00:03:06.940 So that means their relationship was great all the way up until 2019.

00:03:10.780 We know that. And by the way, Usher wasn't the only person that was there.

00:03:14.200 So was Scooter Braun. There he is with his ex-wife in the booth with Hailey.

00:03:18.800 They were super close, the four of them.

00:03:21.380 Then something happened, right?

00:03:23.580 Something happened in the background and people started noticing some things last year.

00:03:26.960 In 2024, you guys will remember that Usher was tapped to perform at the Super Bowl.

00:03:31.940 And people therefore assumed, because usually when you are tapped to perform the Super Bowl, you bring in all your hits.

00:03:37.180 You call up all your homies. 0.94

00:03:38.780 There's all of these guest surprises of people jumping on stage.

00:03:42.440 And it's a trip down memory lane.

00:03:43.860 So everyone was really hyped and assuming that Justin Bieber would be on the stage with him,

00:03:48.240 especially because Justin Bieber went to the Super Bowl.

00:03:51.140 And also because Justin Bieber had just performed earlier that same month at the NHL All-Star Game.

00:03:58.660 So the signs were there.

00:03:59.760 But then news began breaking that actually, no, Justin Bieber had snubbed him, that he had turned down Usher.

00:04:06.060 People were wondering if this was true or just, you know, usual rumor mill in the media.

00:04:10.540 But then Usher confirmed it on The Breakfast Club.

00:04:13.860 Kind of seemed like he was trying to make it seem like it wasn't a big deal that here I am, the mentor,

00:04:20.300 and he turned me down.

00:04:22.040 Here is what Usher said explaining that on The Breakfast Club.

00:04:26.700 Why didn't things work out with Justin Bieber?

00:04:32.620 You know what?

00:04:33.680 They did work out with Justin.

00:04:35.580 You know, I honored and recognized that my brother, you know, he, you know,

00:04:43.420 I think that it might have been the fact that he was just, you know, wanting to tell a different story right now.

00:04:51.120 And I understand that.

00:04:52.540 But we did have a brief conversation.

00:04:56.080 And, you know, we're going to do something else in the future.

00:05:00.280 But no love lost or anything like that.

00:05:04.240 Seems like he's struggling to find words there, doesn't it?

00:05:07.640 He's saying, I think that maybe he's just trying to write a different story.

00:05:13.320 What does that mean?

00:05:13.840 I think that you've been his mentor for decades.

00:05:16.680 Shouldn't you know that?

00:05:17.640 Almost decades, right?

00:05:19.220 Shouldn't you know the reason why I didn't want to perform with you?

00:05:22.020 Saying that he's trying to write a different story.

00:05:23.980 What does that mean?

00:05:25.140 Clearly, Justin Bieber was already pulling back is what it means.

00:05:28.600 And it's interesting now to speak about Usher Raymond by himself.

00:05:34.120 Who exactly is Usher Raymond?

00:05:35.720 What was his story?

00:05:36.660 Well, I'll tell you, it isn't unlike Justin Bieber's story in the manner in which he, too, was initiated into the Hollywood industry.

00:05:44.740 Usher Raymond was signed by L.A. Reid, none other than L.A. Reid, when he was just 13 years old.

00:05:52.220 Kind of oddly, the story goes that Bobby Brown's bodyguard, a guy named A.J. Alexander, discovered Usher at an audition in Atlanta and then started just bringing him around just everywhere, having him tag along.

00:06:06.640 And then a rep from L.A. Reid's label saw him perform at Star Search.

00:06:11.300 You guys maybe vaguely remember this.

00:06:12.820 Have you ever seen like an old documentary of like Christina Aguilera or Britney Spears?

00:06:16.480 Like all of them did Star Search at some point.

00:06:18.620 It was kind of the talent show and it was a big deal if you got on it.

00:06:23.020 And after an A&R rep from L.A. Reid's label saw him, he brought him to the top boss, that being L.A. Reid.

00:06:29.840 And the rest was history.

00:06:30.920 Usher got signed, 13 years old.

00:06:32.860 And then he first appeared in a video that was entitled Call Me Mac, a song that was written by Usher himself, which was released in 1993 as the soundtrack, one of the soundtracks, rather, for the film Poetic Justice.

00:06:47.240 So I'm going to show you just a little small clip of his Call Me Mac premiere video.

00:06:52.240 I'm just disturbed by that line.

00:07:06.260 I may be young, but I got a whole lot of man in me within like gyrating his hips.

00:07:11.200 I don't know if just my entire perspective of all of this has changed now that I'm a mother and I'm in my 30s.

00:07:15.680 This stuff when I saw when I was young, I was like, so cool.

00:07:17.840 It's so cool.

00:07:18.420 Anyways, what went along with that is he released his first album a year later in 1994.

00:07:24.000 He was just 15 years old, but he really became a household name with his sophomore album, My Way.

00:07:29.780 This is stuff that was blaring in my household when I was young, which was released in 1997.

00:07:34.820 And listen, he just became a very big deal in the R&B world.

00:07:39.220 There's no question about it.

00:07:40.680 And so now we are presented with this picture of Justin Bieber unfollowing him.

00:07:48.020 We can probably assume that there was some friction, which was established in 2024, which made him not want to perform with him in 2000 at the Super Bowl.

00:07:56.960 And we have to ask ourselves, what was that friction about?

00:07:59.500 And of course, many people, I believe, are accurately assuming that this has something to do.

00:08:03.980 One element has to do with the Diddy lawsuit.

00:08:06.860 A lot of revelations were made in the Diddy lawsuit.

00:08:10.280 So I'm going to start this by saying allegedly, okay, obviously, he has not yet been convicted of everything, but I knew that he was going to get arrested because after reading through this lawsuit, there were just so many pictures, way too many descriptions.

00:08:24.600 He had hours of video footage proving his claims.

00:08:26.780 I'm preferring to the person who initially filed this, Rodney Lilrod, a producer who went into great detail, laborious effort to basically describe almost a homosexual ring in which people were being drugged at various Diddy parties.

00:08:44.240 But he describes how essentially him, being a young producer, they tried to initiate him into homosexuality.

00:08:51.020 And I'm going to read this directly from a lawsuit.

00:08:52.900 It says, quote, Mr. Combs, that's Diddy, used access to Stevie J and his knowledge that the producer, Mr. Jones, admired Stevie J to groom and entice Mr. Jones to engage in homosexuality.

00:09:08.000 Mr. Combs went so far as to share a video of Stevie J.

00:09:11.940 I am now redacting this so that we stay YouTube safe.

00:09:15.060 It is a graphic video.

00:09:17.780 This was done to ease Mr. Jones's, again, that's the producer, anxiety concerning homosexual acts.

00:09:25.960 According to Mr. Combs, quote, this is a normal practice in the music industry.

00:09:31.760 Look, even Stevie J is doing it, he said, as he showed him this video.

00:09:35.300 Mr. Combs informed Mr. Jones that he had engaged in sexual intercourse with rapper, redacted, R&B singer, redacted, and Stevie J.

00:09:46.580 So that is Diddy saying, these are these other artists I have slept with.

00:09:50.040 This is totally normal for you to do this.

00:09:52.120 It's OK.

00:09:53.180 Lighten up.

00:09:53.900 This is going to be totally fine.

00:09:55.000 Watch this footage that I have everybody else doing.

00:09:57.420 This is just what we do in the industry.

00:10:00.440 But then there's a footnote in the filing, right, because the names are redacted.

00:10:03.260 In the footnote, it reads that regarding the R&B singer that Diddy allegedly slept with, he performed at the Super Bowl and had a successful Vegas residency.

00:10:14.760 So this let people know that very clearly the name that was redacted had to have been Usher because it was Usher who recently performed at the Super Bowl.

00:10:22.720 And it was Usher at the time of the filing who had just had a very successful Vegas residency.

00:10:27.320 And we also knew that Usher and Diddy themselves had a relationship, a long relationship.

00:10:33.620 Now, why is this important?

00:10:35.420 It's important because we know that Usher, when he was very young, was handed over to Diddy.

00:10:42.140 He was literally handed over to Diddy to live with him for a short period of time.

00:10:47.100 Don't take my word for it.

00:10:48.260 You can listen to Usher in his own words discussing that time period in his life with none other than Howard Stern.

00:10:55.460 Take a listen.

00:10:55.780 I moved to New York City, and I lived with Sean Puffy Combs for a year.

00:11:02.180 That's the crazy thing.

00:11:03.260 Now, that was L.A. Reid's idea, right?

00:11:04.900 We're sending you over to something called Puffy Flavor Camp.

00:11:07.760 There you go.

00:11:08.660 Flavor Camp!

00:11:09.640 Yeah, that's what it was called.

00:11:10.940 And you're going to go to Puff Daddy's.

00:11:12.820 In the 90s.

00:11:13.760 Do you understand what that's like?

00:11:15.300 Puffy's place was like just filled with chicks and orging like nonstop, right? 1.00

00:11:19.140 No, not really.

00:11:20.440 I mean, but hey, it was curious.

00:11:22.780 I got a chance to see some things.

00:11:24.040 Yeah, but you were 13.

00:11:25.080 What were you seeing?

00:11:25.600 I went there to see the lifestyle.

00:11:27.060 Right.

00:11:27.380 And I saw it.

00:11:28.220 And it was...

00:11:29.380 But I don't know if I could indulge and understand what I was even looking at.

00:11:33.140 It was pretty wild.

00:11:34.260 It was crazy.

00:11:34.360 So nobody tried to...

00:11:35.840 You know, some woman didn't come along and... 1.00

00:11:38.400 I didn't say that.

00:11:38.920 Okay.

00:11:39.600 I didn't say that.

00:11:40.540 What I did say is that there were very curious things taking place.

00:11:43.580 Uh-huh.

00:11:43.960 And I didn't necessarily understand it.

00:11:45.720 Uh-huh.

00:11:46.420 Biggie Smalls was there.

00:11:47.400 Biggie Smalls was there.

00:11:49.260 Lil' Kim.

00:11:50.860 Craig Mack.

00:11:52.000 You know...

00:11:52.220 All these people are hanging around.

00:11:53.520 Yeah, man.

00:11:54.300 Faith Evans.

00:11:55.860 And your parents were okay?

00:11:57.040 Joey C.

00:11:57.060 Mary J. Blosh. 1.00

00:11:58.400 They didn't know nothing about this shit. 1.00

00:11:59.700 Oh. 1.00

00:12:00.440 I was having a good time.

00:12:02.020 You know what I mean?

00:12:02.780 Does he have you doing any chores?

00:12:04.260 Are you doing dishes at all?

00:12:05.500 I mean, do they keep you humble somewhat?

00:12:07.280 Or are you just like...

00:12:08.140 Can you stay up till four in the morning with them and party?

00:12:10.560 I mean, I could.

00:12:11.320 I actually stayed up longer than them.

00:12:13.420 And what kind of...

00:12:14.560 Do you have money?

00:12:15.960 What's going on?

00:12:17.020 I mean, I had like per dem.

00:12:18.620 I had like, you know, like a living.

00:12:20.280 What a life.

00:12:20.720 Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

00:12:22.020 14 years old.

00:12:22.840 You're a dad now.

00:12:23.620 Would you ever send your kid to puffy camp?

00:12:26.020 Hell no.

00:12:27.100 See?

00:12:28.960 The answer at the end.

00:12:29.940 You're a dad now.

00:12:30.580 Would you ever send him to puffy camp?

00:12:31.960 No.

00:12:32.700 Of course I would not do that.

00:12:34.520 The things that you witnessed.

00:12:35.740 You're staying up until 4 a.m. at these ditty parties.

00:12:38.960 And they're laughing.

00:12:39.900 I love that.

00:12:40.380 It's even more special because it's Howard Stern that's contributing to this conversation. 0.72

00:12:44.980 And obviously Howard Stern is completely mental about Trump, about horrible. 0.92

00:12:48.380 Trump is this and that. 0.94

00:12:49.140 And he's laughing about ditty parties and learning that there's a 13-year-old kid there

00:12:52.900 witnessing what he describes as orgies.

00:12:55.840 Like Howard Stern says, there was orgies.

00:12:57.380 Were you there?

00:12:57.740 Did you see this?

00:12:58.460 And they're laughing at this, right?

00:13:00.400 Usher certainly knew what went down at ditty parties is the point that I'm making, okay?

00:13:03.620 All of Hollywood knew what went down at ditty parties.

00:13:07.080 We could show you clip after clip after clip of them all mocking and laughing about everything

00:13:11.280 that happened at ditty's place.

00:13:13.460 So when Usher signed and became a quote unquote mentor to Justin Bieber, why didn't he mentor

00:13:20.640 him against going to ditty's house?

00:13:23.320 Wouldn't that be a nice thing for your mentor and your friend to do?

00:13:26.440 Why is it beginning to feel like everything that Kanye West told us about Hollywood might

00:13:33.060 be true?

00:13:34.280 That you have these young, talented people who are essentially being adopted and initiated

00:13:40.280 when they are vulnerable into a very dark and demonic cult, okay?

00:13:46.040 Why is it beginning to feel like once they age and they're a part of it, they then find

00:13:50.380 someone young and they get them initiated into it.

00:13:53.120 They find the talent and they initiate them into this sort of a cult. 0.68

00:13:55.600 Now, I will admit as a friend of Ye that I thought he was completely paranoid and crazy

00:14:01.220 when he kept telling me that everyone around him was an op.

00:14:04.820 He used to say, this person's an op, this person's an op, this person's an op, like,

00:14:08.480 you know, like as if he was accusing them all of being feds.

00:14:11.360 He even went at one point, questioned me when I was asking him questions and everything was

00:14:15.400 coming down.

00:14:16.160 He's like, are you an op? 0.90

00:14:16.840 I'm like, what are you talking about?

00:14:18.020 I don't know anybody in Hollywood.

00:14:19.740 Obviously, I'm not an op.

00:14:20.780 And I thought these were just, again, paranoid solutions.

00:14:23.020 But now I have a very different perspective on this.

00:14:25.700 I have an understanding of what Kanye went through to get out, right?

00:14:29.700 To basically sell everything, give everything, give his designs, end his marriage.

00:14:35.940 Because when you leave a cult, of course, it's not easy.

00:14:41.100 They try to destroy you.

00:14:42.860 They try to Sigmund Freud you.

00:14:44.360 They try to gaslight you. 0.96

00:14:45.460 They try to call you crazy, express concern, fake friends. 0.85

00:14:49.440 Even put pressure on your family. 0.73

00:14:50.860 Oh, man, you just need some rest.

00:14:52.700 We're just going crazy.

00:14:53.440 Hey, you know what?

00:14:54.740 I'm your friend.

00:14:55.440 I've always been your friend.

00:14:57.300 I'm your, we don't want this to happen to you.

00:14:59.140 And then when you say, no, I'm done with this, then come all of the headlines.

00:15:02.560 Then come the headlines about Haley Bieber spending all of Justin's money.

00:15:05.960 Why did he sell his catalog?

00:15:07.280 Is he going to go broke?

00:15:08.500 Friends are concerned.

00:15:10.380 They're concerned because he's unfollowing people.

00:15:12.360 Oh, my God, he must be having a mental breakdown.

00:15:15.720 Look, guys, it is clear that Justin Bieber wants out.

00:15:18.160 He probably can't even speak out because of incredibly complicated contracts.

00:15:23.180 You know who also warned about that?

00:15:25.060 A certain Mr. Kanye West.

00:15:27.060 Take a listen.

00:15:28.120 We can't just say, oh, it's okay for people to like super complicate deals and to collude on deals

00:15:36.220 and to not look at us as human beings, as artists and athletes and actors,

00:15:40.940 that we have to be willing to like stand up for that to be able to change something.

00:15:45.200 And we need to come together as a society to be the first civilization that actually became civil.

00:15:54.980 But despite these super complicated contracts, people not being able to speak out,

00:15:59.200 people being fearful, people being threatened, people being told and gaslit in the media

00:16:04.360 when they're just saying something, trying to say that something bad happened to me,

00:16:08.000 that I am being treated badly.

00:16:10.380 Despite this, we are seeing that people are brave and people are learning ways to work around them.

00:16:14.660 Young artists are somehow working around these super complicated deals.

00:16:18.060 I mean, saying a lot with something as simple as an unfollow.

00:16:23.100 So that is what Brett Cooper did, by the way, recently.

00:16:25.640 Like everyone's speculating.

00:16:27.000 A couple of unfollows will let you know what's really going on.

00:16:30.020 Maybe not fully, but kind of giving you an idea to see Justin Bieber doing this.

00:16:34.280 He is signaling hard right now that things behind the scenes are not okay.

00:16:38.740 Thus far, he has unfollowed Scooter Braun, his former manager, who he fired in 2022.

00:16:46.020 He's unfollowed Allison Kaye, his former manager from SB Projects.

00:16:49.400 He's unfollowed Kenny Hamilton, who was his former bodyguard, which I believe Justin Bieber's

00:16:54.860 mom wrote in her first book that Kenny Hamilton came from, was a very close friend of Scooter

00:17:00.040 Braun.

00:17:00.800 And so that's how he became his bodyguard.

00:17:02.340 Ryan Good, who was the singer's former swag coach.

00:17:05.760 He's been around since 2009.

00:17:07.180 He was even the best man at Justin's wedding.

00:17:09.200 Unfollowed.

00:17:10.200 A poo bear who's a songwriter, a producer that he worked with on his albums.

00:17:14.520 Unfollowed.

00:17:15.600 And you know what I can say after all of this?

00:17:17.740 Justin Bieber, he's going to be absolutely fine.

00:17:19.740 He is going to be so fine.

00:17:20.760 I'm telling you guys, pray for him.

00:17:21.900 He's obviously very strong right now to be going through this, to not have his voice,

00:17:27.240 despite giving his voice as his talent for such a long time, from the time that he was

00:17:30.940 a kid, the time that he was 13 years old.

00:17:32.720 But he's going to be okay because first and foremost, he has faith, okay?

00:17:35.960 He also now has a son, which I believe is motivating this.

00:17:38.840 I think the birth of Jack Blues Bieber was the beginning of the end of Justin Bieber's time

00:17:44.700 in Hollywood Babylon.

00:17:46.080 It is the power of family, and we are witnessing the power of faith.

00:17:49.740 And to that, I say, Justin Bieber, keep going.

00:17:51.680 The world is behind you.

00:17:53.180 We cannot wait until you find your voice again.

00:17:55.680 Christ is king.

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00:19:00.320 I'm a Gen Z stan, I think.

00:19:01.860 I got to say it.

00:19:02.560 I just, I love Gen Z right now.

00:19:05.020 They're just feisty. 0.90

00:19:06.600 They're very feisty right now.

00:19:08.720 And to see the way they are reacting to people trying to censor their speech, this is incredible.

00:19:13.780 This is amazing.

00:19:14.260 And you're going to have to park aside your feelings about China.

00:19:17.040 Obviously, I agree with the fact that China is a threat, but I also kind of think America 0.99

00:19:21.200 and our deep state and the CIA is the bigger threat.

00:19:23.580 The homeland threat seems a little bit bigger, the domestic threat, than the foreign threat 0.86

00:19:27.660 at this moment.

00:19:28.660 Okay.

00:19:28.820 So what am I speaking about?

00:19:29.680 So there is, let me just show you this headline on NBC, Chinese TikTok alternative Red Note

00:19:34.820 tops app charts ahead of potential TikTok ban.

00:19:38.840 Okay.

00:19:39.160 So just to be clear, the number one most downloaded app right now in the app store is Red Note.

00:19:44.700 Red Note.

00:19:45.600 It's in Mandarin.

00:19:46.720 They can't even read it.

00:19:47.480 And they're all downloading it.

00:19:49.280 So I'm going to give you the backstory of the TikTok ban.

00:19:51.360 Initially, when Trump got into office, he essentially was very tough on China.

00:19:55.260 And in 2020, he said, we've got to do something about China. 0.85

00:19:58.420 They're stealing all of our data.

00:19:59.840 You know, he was doing the America first.

00:20:01.880 We were also going to be tough on tariffs, et cetera, et cetera.

00:20:04.960 And in August of 2020, he tried to ban TikTok via executive order.

00:20:09.260 It didn't work.

00:20:09.980 It was tons of resistance.

00:20:11.560 People saying that it would be a violation of free speech.

00:20:13.640 This can't happen.

00:20:14.480 Blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:20:15.600 Then, of course, October 7th happened.

00:20:18.920 And TikTok was incredibly pro-Palestine. 0.75

00:20:22.740 To the point that they began censoring the word Palestine and the ADL, the Anti-Defamation League, which is really just the Anti-Free Speech League and the Smear and Mislander League, decided that they needed to now step in. 0.59

00:20:36.300 Forget you thinking your president has power.

00:20:38.340 We, the ADL, our lobby, AIPAC, we're going to get this done now because we don't like that Gen Z is anti-Israel. 0.99

00:20:45.640 They're not allowed to have those thoughts.

00:20:47.460 So, incredibly, if you don't remember this, Jonathan Greenblatt, who is the head of the ADL, got caught on audio discussing how Gen Z was problematic and they needed to do something immediately.

00:20:59.620 So, this is in March of last year.

00:21:02.020 Listen to what he says.

00:21:04.080 I also want to point out that we have a major, major, major generational problem.

00:21:11.600 All the polling I've seen, ADL's polling, ICC's polling, independent polling, suggests this is not a left-right gap, folks.

00:21:23.020 The issue in the United States of support for Israel is not left and right.

00:21:28.080 It is young and old.

00:21:30.580 And the numbers of young people who think that Hamas' massacre was justified is shockingly and terrifyingly high.

00:21:39.360 And so, we really have a TikTok problem, a Gen Z problem, that our community needs to put the same brains that gave us Tag Lee, the same brains that gave us all these other amazing innovations, need to put our energy toward this, like, fast. 0.98

00:21:57.120 Because, again, like we've been chasing this left-right divide, it's the wrong game.

00:22:03.420 And he's not lying.

00:22:07.520 It was very clear.

00:22:08.640 I think something like 90% of the posts were pro-Palestinian, and it was because they were able to see videos for the first time.

00:22:13.740 It's the first generation that can actually see videos, not just read about it in the New York Times or read about it in The Guardian.

00:22:18.060 They're actually able to see what is happening in Gaza, and they firmly decided that we are not going to support this.

00:22:23.320 And so, ADL got involved.

00:22:25.400 Israel counted its win and said, you know, we have gotten a handle on—I showed you on a prior episode.

00:22:30.600 So, we've gotten a handle now on TikTok and on Instagram, and then the kids got smart and started using watermelons, instead of—because they couldn't say Palestine or get any views and things were getting banned, they started using watermelon signs, okay?

00:22:43.200 But then, very quickly, Congress passed an act.

00:22:45.560 Forget—like I said, forget the president in 2020.

00:22:47.360 They were like, oh, yes, no, TikTok must immediately be banned now.

00:22:49.940 We got to get rid of this, or it must sell.

00:22:52.280 And that date is now coming up.

00:22:54.280 And so, the TikTokers are going, we are not with this. 1.00

00:22:57.320 You are not going to censor our speech.

00:22:59.380 We are not okay with you selling it to somebody that's going to censor our speech.

00:23:03.400 And so, what they have started doing is downloading RedNotes.

00:23:06.700 And basically, this is just China's TikTok.

00:23:09.300 And it's really funny to just look through what they are saying here, because there is something—and speaking to this generational divide, which is—he's correct.

00:23:17.140 The younger kids don't really care when you tell them that their data is being stolen, because basically, they assume that their data is being stolen one way or the other.

00:23:24.100 It's from the CIA.

00:23:24.840 It's from this person.

00:23:25.500 They don't have trust in our government, because our government has done really crappy things as well.

00:23:30.120 And they also can't afford groceries.

00:23:32.000 So, yeah, whether or not China is stealing their data isn't a priority in their lives.

00:23:38.600 And so, I'm going to show you just a couple of these TikToks of them pretty much just mocking, signing up for this app, and laughing at the government, thinking that it's going to stop them.

00:23:49.320 This is one person.

00:23:50.420 It says, TikTok, me arriving to China.

00:23:52.540 Okay, we can get out of this one.

00:24:15.760 So, that's just a guy like—this is me arriving to China on January 19th when this gets banned.

00:24:20.820 Here is another TikToker who is mocking the fact that he is Asian, basically saying it is our honor to spy on you. 0.92

00:24:28.480 Take a listen.

00:24:29.620 Hello, guys.

00:24:30.620 This is your Chinese spy speaking. 0.63

00:24:34.300 I want to post this video before it's too late.

00:24:37.780 I guess we are not going to see each other again in the future.

00:24:42.020 That's why I have something to say.

00:24:44.880 It is a great honor to spy on you for the last few years.

00:24:48.060 I wish you all have a great life in the future.

00:24:54.860 Now, it's something personal.

00:24:59.020 Laura from California.

00:25:01.320 You shouldn't drink that much Coca-Cola.

00:25:04.000 It's bad for your health.

00:25:05.960 And also, Peter from New York.

00:25:10.800 Your mama loves you.

00:25:12.220 You shouldn't treat her like that, okay?

00:25:15.780 And Stephanie from Texas. 0.94

00:25:17.920 Don't send your nude picture to the guy called Marvin. 1.00

00:25:20.980 He's a f*** boy. 1.00

00:25:22.280 He's talking to other girls as well. 1.00

00:25:25.780 Nice deeds, by the way.

00:25:28.020 I think that's all I have to say.

00:25:32.060 Bye-bye, guys.

00:25:33.380 Bye-bye.

00:25:33.760 People are just mocking this.

00:25:37.700 Like, oh, I guess we're not going to even spy on you here.

00:25:40.060 I'm very sorry.

00:25:41.800 And also, here's another TikTok.

00:25:43.860 Just giving you the general sentiment and the mood on TikTok right now.

00:25:49.240 It says the U.S. government banning TikTok to protect everyone's data.

00:25:52.720 But now everyone's going to another Chinese app and giving it for free.

00:25:55.920 Americans really don't give an F.

00:25:58.960 And he's laughing.

00:25:59.880 And the comments under this are really funny.

00:26:01.820 Here are some of the comments.

00:26:02.660 I'm sorry, I do find this to be absolutely hilarious.

00:26:06.160 We're going to read you some of these comments.

00:26:08.020 This person, accepting terms and conditions in Mandarin.

00:26:11.760 Next comment.

00:26:13.800 Ask app not to track.

00:26:15.720 Nah, that's okay.

00:26:16.420 I don't mind.

00:26:18.440 Next comment.

00:26:20.120 This generation is not serious.

00:26:22.200 Agreed.

00:26:22.780 I totally agreed.

00:26:23.820 Next comment.

00:26:25.060 We too poor to give an F at this point, which is strangely very relatable.

00:26:30.060 That's what I'm saying.

00:26:30.460 It's like you're sitting here trying to explain to them in the context, which, again, this is this comes down to them being anti-Israel.

00:26:35.580 Don't believe anything else to me.

00:26:36.700 I tried to spin to you or I'll say would have done it when Trump was president.

00:26:39.440 But they can't afford groceries.

00:26:41.800 You're not going to make Gen Z think that they should care about China spying on them.

00:26:46.900 This is the point this person's making.

00:26:48.460 Here's the next person.

00:26:49.700 This is so great.

00:26:51.040 My dad of my choice.

00:26:52.500 That is just brilliant.

00:26:54.100 Absolutely hilarious.

00:26:55.460 This person writes, the reverse psychology the U.S. government did not see coming.

00:26:59.640 It is going to present a problem for them for sure.

00:27:03.400 And this comment.

00:27:04.280 We're like teenagers who got grounded but stuck out the window to go to the party anyway.

00:27:09.460 Just come on.

00:27:11.040 Come on.

00:27:11.940 Gen Z is funny.

00:27:12.900 And it's true. 0.56

00:27:13.640 They're going to be playing whack-a-mole for a very long time because this is America.

00:27:17.280 OK, we do not like speech censorship.

00:27:20.360 OK, you're not going to justify it or try to pretend it's anything else.

00:27:23.360 We heard Jonathan Greenblatt on the tapes.

00:27:25.480 We saw how quickly it then got passed.

00:27:27.200 And I get that you're trying to dress up as, oh, now when Trump said it, we didn't recognize it as a problem.

00:27:31.940 But now we recognize it as a problem. 0.99

00:27:33.700 People are not stupid.

00:27:35.400 OK, they want to they want to enjoy TikToks of people speaking about various issues, people gardening, whatever it is that helps them ease their minds off of the fact that everything seems to be falling apart around them.

00:27:45.680 So I am I'm I'm with you, Gen Z.

00:27:47.720 I like it.

00:27:48.560 I'm going to try.

00:27:49.040 I'm going to join there.

00:27:50.100 I'm going to join whatever.

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00:29:05.680 Okay, tons of you guys in the chat were saying, Candice, you're going to cover your viral debate with Michaela Peterson.

00:29:10.540 And I actually hadn't even thought to cover it.

00:29:13.200 Yeah, I had a debate.

00:29:13.960 I didn't realize I had gotten so many views, I had received so many views, pardon.

00:29:17.160 And it was partially because, I don't know, I had like Emmanuel Macron and Brigitte breathing down my neck.

00:29:21.040 So I had bigger fish to fry.

00:29:22.520 But just to give you guys, if you have not seen it on Piers Morgan's YouTube channel, you can pivot over and you can watch it.

00:29:27.460 The reviews are very favorable.

00:29:28.620 So I appreciate all of you guys watching it.

00:29:30.560 And to give you the backstory of why we were debating at all, again, this is from January 10th.

00:29:35.240 It was pretty much a spillover from a little Twitter tiff we had.

00:29:39.900 And it wasn't exactly a tiff, but like, you know, girls, a little catty, a little bit.

00:29:44.260 And it was regarding the H-1B1 visas.

00:29:47.720 Michaela tweeted something that I was not happy about.

00:29:51.040 She had tweeted this about the visas of people saying that we needed to put a limit and completely get rid of this program because it's been corrupted.

00:29:59.340 She wrote, why did the woke right pretend that it was illegal immigration that they were against when it turned out it was immigration in general?

00:30:06.440 At least be honest about it.

00:30:07.620 If there's assimilation into the culture and legal immigration, what is the problem other than skin color? 0.99

00:30:12.720 And she went on to say that the issue was that people didn't want brown people.

00:30:18.400 She actually wrote brown people in the country.

00:30:20.320 And I took issue that because I just find it offensive.

00:30:22.460 I found it offensive that somebody who's not even a U.S. citizen who is here on a visa would accuse Americans of being racist rather than listening to Americans as to why this program and how this program has impacted their lives.

00:30:34.320 So we have a debate and I will show you what Michaela had to say on the topic on Piers Morgan.

00:30:40.360 Take a listen.

00:30:41.240 So I don't know, Candace, if you're seeing what I'm seeing on X, but when I saw the H-1B debate going around, mostly what I saw was racism against Indians specifically.

00:30:50.760 And I'm not saying there isn't a problem with the visa issue in the states in general. 1.00

00:30:55.740 Getting top talent here is very difficult.

00:30:57.560 Like I had a very difficult time getting in and I'm married to an American.

00:31:00.120 And it was long and annoying and they don't have a proper way to test people.

00:31:04.700 So there's plenty of flaws to talk about.

00:31:07.000 But I think right before the inauguration, having conservatives argue amongst ourselves about an H-1B visa issue when we have an open border is silly, especially when it does kind of dredge up what I called the woke right on X.

00:31:21.680 And I know you've scoffed at the term the woke right, but it encompasses these people that are focused on anti-Semitism, Jews, and are very, they're pro-America, but their idea of America is this white America, similar to, I guess, what everyone's been arguing about for the last 200 years whenever anybody new comes into the country.

00:31:45.200 And I do think it has to do with race and I can see, I think you can see that from comments on Twitter.

00:31:50.700 So I essentially answered her back and said that one of the ways in which I hate that people debate is rather than debating what you are saying, they basically look for a commenter on Twitter, an anonymous account that says something racist.

00:32:04.880 And they go, see, see, everyone who has this perspective is racist.

00:32:07.980 This is like the Seth Dillon way of arguing on X where he just like will find a random griper account.

00:32:11.980 And he's like, well, look, these people don't like Jews.

00:32:15.060 And so that means that if you don't think Palestinians should be bombed, you don't like Jews like, okay, guys, can we argue as people? 1.00

00:32:20.140 It's the internet. 0.92

00:32:20.640 Welcome to the internet.

00:32:21.380 People say racist things every second of every day.

00:32:23.640 And I said that to her.

00:32:24.420 I said, since the moment I made my account, somebody has dropped the N word on me online, left and right.

00:32:30.140 Okay.

00:32:30.380 It's just a part of the territory.

00:32:31.840 We have to have a thicker skin and we have to accept that like random internet trolls is not real life.

00:32:36.500 And that the substance of this debate was definitely not over the fact that people were fearful of having brown people in the country.

00:32:41.660 I said to her, I am brown as well.

00:32:43.460 Like, so, and obviously I don't have an issue with Vivek Ramaswamy because I stumped for him when he was running.

00:32:48.460 I went down, went up to Iowa and got on the ground with him because I think he's remarkably talented.

00:32:52.660 I just think him and Elon have it wrong on H1B1 visas.

00:32:56.100 And so we had that dialogue and it was a respectful dialogue.

00:33:00.060 And then the conversation completely turned because she brought up her father.

00:33:05.580 And I think people found this to be very interesting.

00:33:07.680 And I'm very curious to see what you guys thought about it.

00:33:11.660 Essentially, I'll just give you the background here.

00:33:13.060 So Michaela, it was very obvious that she had some bad feelings towards me because I had covered her father on one episode, one episode of this podcast because he was troll and he was trolling.

00:33:25.520 He was trending because of some tweets that he had written, which seemed out of character for Jordan Peterson.

00:33:32.560 OK, I did not create this trend.

00:33:34.260 I did not contribute to this trend.

00:33:35.640 But I wanted to cover this because this is Dr. Jordan Peterson.

00:33:38.380 And truly, I would say in 2018, there had never been a person that had so much influence in American politics that I had never seen someone get bigger than Dr.

00:33:49.860 Jordan Peterson was in 2018 across the world.

00:33:52.440 By the way, I shouldn't say American politics across the world.

00:33:54.380 This guy was selling out stadiums from here to like Korea based off of his book.

00:33:59.260 I can't remember how many rules are.

00:34:00.300 I think seven.

00:34:00.980 There might be nine.

00:34:01.620 Don't don't take my word for it.

00:34:02.580 I'm blanking on it.

00:34:03.240 I'm pregnant.

00:34:03.680 Leave me alone.

00:34:04.460 Anyways, the point is, is that something seemed to have changed post October 7th and people weren't able to pick up what it was because first, you'll remember on October 7th, he tweeted like bomb.

00:34:16.160 All of them are going to get to those tweets.

00:34:17.420 But these were some of the tweets that created the trend.

00:34:19.900 OK, here's one Jordan Peterson tweet.

00:34:22.740 Hey, and it's also written in sonnet form. 0.99

00:34:25.400 Hey, new Nazi troll rats anonymously trumpeting your anti-Semitism doesn't rescue you from your mother's basement or from the demon of resentment or make you attractive to the women who take one look at you and shudder and rightly bloody so. 1.00

00:34:36.100 You are despicable bottom-rung cowards using Gaza, Gaza, Gaza, Hamas as camouflage for your testable cluster B psychopathy, narcissism, Machiavellianism, and of course, sadism. 1.00

00:34:47.300 I've got your number, you pathetic tantrum toddlers, you don't even have the courage of genuine bullies, you Cheeto dust, I didn't expect that, you Cheeto dust covered sweat stained white t-shirt. 1.00

00:35:00.020 This is actually very funny. 0.99

00:35:03.000 I'm sorry, I didn't, I didn't pre-read this and I'm rereading it again and forgetting, but it was funny.

00:35:09.680 OK, it's, but it's out of character for Jordan Peterson is what I'm saying here.

00:35:13.700 Here's another one, he got into a spat with one of these people that I presumably, he was tweeting about and he referred to Nick Fuentes as a rat. 0.99

00:35:20.640 You, Nick Fuentes, really are a psychopathic rat. 0.96

00:35:22.820 OK, you could say, by the way, this is opinion, like I don't, this doesn't bother me on X. 0.98

00:35:25.840 There's so much, like I said, worse stuff on X that I, people say to me all the time.

00:35:30.520 It's not a big deal, but he said this, it was just out of character for a doctor who preaches calm in chaotic environments.

00:35:37.700 And here's another tweet, by the way, pulling it out of the Gaza debate.

00:35:40.320 It was happening quite often. This was, I think, to a reporter. Here it is.

00:35:45.560 Tell them to go F themselves. Tell them to go F themselves. Tell them to go F themselves. 0.93

00:35:50.220 Tell them to go F themselves. Repeat until paragraph length or lose and lose science along with it.

00:35:54.600 There's another one of the tweets. F you seriously. Never, never again.

00:35:59.700 You bloody, pathetic, fear-mongering, pharma-fascist sills. The faster you disappear at CNN, the better. 1.00

00:36:04.660 So that's just tweeted at CNN. By the way, I don't disagree with the sentiment.

00:36:07.200 I don't like CNN, but I also wouldn't tweet at them like this. And I especially wouldn't tweet at them like this when, again, your brand is calm.

00:36:13.380 So a trend had been established. I did a video speaking about this and speaking about how a lot of people who followed him, and this is just a reality, a lot of people who followed him and hung on his every word kind of fell away from that.

00:36:25.340 And he definitely, definitively, and objectively is not as big today as he was in 2018. That's fine. Time changes. People change. Season changes. Conflicts change.

00:36:34.120 But you can understand that Michaela took personal offense because as a part of that piece, I spoke about how people began to wonder about him.

00:36:42.220 Like if the trust, I guess, if you want to say, the public trust was sort of fractured a bit when we learned that he had suffered with addiction.

00:36:49.120 I said this on my show, my previous show. And when he came back, it didn't seem like he had fully owned that.

00:36:54.640 And she took great offense to this, as you would imagine, because she's his daughter.

00:36:58.940 So it's silly to expect her to be objective on the matter when it's her daughter.

00:37:03.680 When it's his daughter, I would not be objective if somebody was speaking about my father, my husband, my son, whatever it is.

00:37:10.040 So I grant her that. And she then said this on Piers Morgan. Take a listen.

00:37:16.220 You do know that one fifth of Americans are on psych meds, right? Are you aware of the statistics?

00:37:20.880 Yes.

00:37:21.140 Are those all people with addictions? Is that your view of people on psych meds just in general?

00:37:30.300 No, your father spoke out about his benzo addiction. So I don't understand why you're asking the question.

00:37:37.180 Yeah, no, benzo dependence. Benzo dependence. Maybe you don't know anything about this.

00:37:42.720 If you're on a psych med long term, you form a dependence on it and it's very difficult to get off of.

00:37:50.100 They're starting to teach this in medical school. It's a disaster because so many Americans are on psych meds.

00:37:56.540 So, yeah, he suffered from psych med withdrawal because they like they make you form a dependence on it, especially long term.

00:38:03.120 Now, calling it an addiction as if he was on heroin or something is manipulative, you know.

00:38:09.980 So when we talked about it and we were very honest about what was going on, part of it was to spread awareness that one fifth of Americans are on medications that cause dependence and don't know it.

00:38:20.040 It's horrible. People die because of it.

00:38:22.560 So I think laughing about it.

00:38:25.200 Is like it's just it's not cool.

00:38:30.580 I certainly don't think I laughed at it.

00:38:32.880 I think benzo dependence is pretty much a euphemism for an addiction.

00:38:37.020 And if you know anything about my work, that's the problem, crunchy and speaking about why I think medicines are bad because they do create dependencies, which then yield people going onto the streets for something stronger.

00:38:49.620 I mean, the benzo addiction becomes a heroin addiction because the doctor won't write you the prescription anymore.

00:38:54.280 So you turn to the streets for something stronger because your body is dependent on it.

00:38:57.700 But I'm sorry that, again, you are offended by this conversation simply because it is your father.

00:39:04.300 I don't think I've been offensive in my language.

00:39:06.260 And if you find it to be manipulative, that I think that it impacted the way that men saw him when they publicly were saying that on Twitter.

00:39:14.780 We covered the tweets that people were writing on that day about how, you know, they used to idolize him.

00:39:19.440 They're so grateful for his book, but this is not the person that they knew.

00:39:22.240 Again, I'm sorry you're offended by that, but it's just the reality of what happened.

00:39:25.660 And I can tell this is a sensitive topic for you, but it is what it is.

00:39:31.260 Mikaela, I don't know what to say.

00:39:32.180 I don't think anybody's laughed at it.

00:39:34.140 I think it's a good conversation to be had.

00:39:36.440 And no one is more anti-Big Pharma than me.

00:39:39.240 I mean, I have an entire series against Big Pharma, so.

00:39:44.320 I don't even know where to start with that.

00:39:47.040 You know, benzo addicts will go to the street for heroin.

00:39:51.200 There's just, we were trying to spread awareness about psych med withdrawal, and we were very honest about what everybody was going through.

00:39:59.720 I went through psych med withdrawal myself.

00:40:01.880 It was one of the worst experiences in my life.

00:40:04.260 It kills people, causes akathisia, which makes people suicidal.

00:40:09.180 It's a terrible side effect.

00:40:10.520 So that's what we were talking about.

00:40:11.740 Now, if you want to twist that a little bit and be like, he's losing his audience because he's an addict, you know, I don't really know what to say.

00:40:20.760 So I watched this back, and when it was happening, I had the exact same thing.

00:40:25.660 I just thought in my head, like, I'm not rich enough for this, I think.

00:40:29.640 I just, I grew up with addicts, and I know now everyone's got fancy terms for everything.

00:40:33.380 And there's, you can, I guess there's a certain amount of money you can have in your savings where suddenly addiction is now called a dependency.

00:40:40.500 I literally went, what are we even talking, what are you saying?

00:40:42.080 I don't understand this.

00:40:42.860 And so to give her credit, I looked it up, and she said, now they're teaching there's a difference between addiction and dependence.

00:40:50.300 And here is the description on Medical News Today of this difference.

00:40:54.160 It reads, the terms addiction and dependence can seem similar, but they are different.

00:40:59.080 Dependence occurs when the body physically relies on a drug.

00:41:02.740 Addiction involves changes in behavior.

00:41:05.920 Now, I would imagine that if your body is physically relying on a drug, it would also spell out some changes in your behavior.

00:41:11.080 So, like I said, I just grew up with old-fashioned addicts, okay?

00:41:14.880 I'm sure that a couple uncles would have loved this term, right?

00:41:18.240 You know, my uncle, it feels pompous to me.

00:41:22.440 Am I wrong to say that?

00:41:23.340 It feels like you have to have enough money to never admit a fault, and then you can kind of go, okay, this is a doctor versus a psychologist.

00:41:30.700 You know what these drugs do, okay?

00:41:32.000 So, this wasn't, and literally, the entire opioid epidemic that we have of people going to the streets and getting these drugs, the people that we call addicts, was created by Big Pharma, right?

00:41:42.500 The classy people who get the prescriptions.

00:41:44.440 So, I don't like it.

00:41:45.940 I just don't like it because it feels like we're too classy or we're too, you know, whatever the correct word would be.

00:41:52.440 Like, it's just, it's very high-flying.

00:41:54.080 Like, we're too high-flying to lower ourselves and to admit that this is, and it should have been, a compelling story because it's not ever funny for people to have.

00:42:02.780 And by the way, I think Jordan Peterson used a different term in her.

00:42:04.960 He said substance use disorder.

00:42:06.780 Okay, all of it is something that we can all relate to no matter what your walk of life is, okay?

00:42:11.940 Like I said, I just had a regular old addict, still have regular old addicts in my family, but I don't want to give them an excuse, I guess, of thinking that, well, this is a little bit different because I think if two people were talking on the street and one of the person was a good old-fashioned addict, crackhead, and one said, well, I'm not an addict.

00:42:30.920 My body depends on it.

00:42:32.380 And I feel like the crackhead would be like, yeah, me too.

00:42:35.580 Same.

00:42:36.340 My body depends on crack.

00:42:37.720 I don't know how the conversation would go, but I think the braver thing to do is to, I don't know, not create a hierarchy of substance use disorder and to say everybody, everybody's family, my own included, have been touched with this, you know?

00:42:53.560 And Big Pharma is the reason for it in many ways.

00:42:56.700 They have created these drugs that are creating this sort of an epidemic, and instead we get, like, medical segregation, I guess.

00:43:02.480 So that was how I felt, and I'd be interested to hear what you guys think.

00:43:05.880 I feel like, oh, it's a slight difference, and now it's different because they're teaching this, you know, new science, and they're realizing that, you know, the person on the street that's addicted to alcohol, I guess now you could say since it's a physical dependency because they would literally die at a certain point.

00:43:18.760 They don't have that drink in the morning, and you have to be very careful.

00:43:22.020 Now they don't, you don't call them addicts anymore.

00:43:24.480 We call them people that have substance use disorder.

00:43:26.640 I don't know.

00:43:27.260 I'm not fancy enough.

00:43:28.380 I'll let you know when I get rich enough for that, but it's not for me is what I would say.

00:43:32.020 Anyway, so Michaela, I have no beef with her at all.

00:43:33.940 I really don't.

00:43:34.560 We just disagree on certain points, and I actually appreciated that we were able to do so civilly, and I, like I said then, and like I've said before, I understand when it's your family, it's different.

00:43:45.100 No one should ask her to be subjective, I mean, to be objective on the matter.

00:43:49.080 You should always be ride or die for your family members, so I totally get the sentiment, and I'm glad we were able to have a discussion, and I'm grateful that so many people enjoyed the discussion.

00:43:57.120 But, yeah, I'm going to enjoy your comments on that.

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00:44:48.940 Ooh, let's see what you guys are saying about Bieber and everything going on today.

00:44:53.400 TikTok, are you joining Red Note?

00:44:55.180 I may have already joined Red Note.

00:44:57.320 I'm not so scared about data anymore.

00:44:59.700 I don't know.

00:45:00.120 I think the biggest threat is the CIA.

00:45:02.460 Okay, Jasmine wrote, I am part of the Gen Z problem.

00:45:06.800 That's shots fired, Jonathan Greenblatt.

00:45:10.200 America first.

00:45:11.160 Yeah, I'm with you guys.

00:45:12.440 This millennial is with you guys.

00:45:13.920 I'm so sick of people viewing us as a problem for having our own ideas.

00:45:17.540 Chicago Conservative writes, Candace, I hear you about Israel having too much power in the U.S. 0.92

00:45:21.840 and I agree, but I cannot justify being on the same side as crazy college students, Marxist

00:45:26.380 professors to support Palestine.

00:45:27.960 I need more information.

00:45:28.980 And you should have a right to that information, by the way.

00:45:31.520 That is the point.

00:45:32.520 The conflation and pretending that every single person who has an issue with 18,000 kids being

00:45:37.960 bombed and what we're seeing on our X page supports Hamas or agrees that people should 0.98

00:45:44.240 have been murdered.

00:45:45.260 Other innocent people should have been murdered on the other side of that border in Israel is 0.99

00:45:48.940 a nonsense. 0.99

00:45:49.960 It's such it's so dishonest. 0.90

00:45:51.760 The rhetoric is so dishonest.

00:45:53.420 And you see you see the same stuff, by the way, during BLM.

00:45:55.960 Like you you always try to find the one white person in the MAGA crowd who's saying something

00:46:02.180 racist. 0.94

00:46:02.480 And they're like, look, all of MAGA are racist.

00:46:04.740 All you have to do is find one person and train your camera on that and go, this is what

00:46:07.960 these people believe.

00:46:09.140 And of course, that's not what MAGA believes.

00:46:10.520 That's not at all what MAGA believes.

00:46:12.020 Look, they're marching.

00:46:13.260 The white supremacists are marching. 0.66

00:46:15.020 These are Trump supporters.

00:46:16.420 They are doing the same thing with the Hamas storyline, training the cameras on the one person 0.89

00:46:21.140 who's like, yeah, murder. 1.00

00:46:22.900 All Jews should die. 1.00

00:46:24.140 Of course, no one, the majority of rational human beings do not support that. 1.00

00:46:28.840 That's an atrocious, atrocious ideology.

00:46:30.780 And they go, oh, every person who has an issue with all of the Palestinians dying believes

00:46:35.700 is a Hamas supporter.

00:46:37.300 You just can't do that.

00:46:38.580 It's not genuine.

00:46:39.280 It's not authentic.

00:46:40.140 And in fact, it's disingenuous.

00:46:42.720 And I think people are catching up to that.

00:46:45.100 Sarah writes, I think she's just quoting me.

00:46:47.720 Thank you, Michaela.

00:46:49.020 That was epic.

00:46:50.060 Alaska Dog Lady writes, I'm the mom of two Gen Z kids.

00:46:52.840 I took them berry picking and the berries weren't good.

00:46:55.340 My daughter said, I bet the government killed them.

00:46:57.520 So we have to buy their poison berries.

00:46:59.080 They are based.

00:46:59.720 Yes, so funny.

00:47:01.140 I was just having a conversation with a girlfriend and she was talking about how the, we were

00:47:05.520 talking about mandarin and oranges and they taste like water now and every fruit just doesn't

00:47:08.960 taste the same anymore.

00:47:10.300 This is essentially farmageddon, spraying stuff, everything's poisonous.

00:47:14.260 I just got back from Switzerland and the food was delicious.

00:47:17.040 So yes, you are not, it's not real or imagined.

00:47:19.740 And your daughter is in fact based.

00:47:21.920 I bet she downloaded Red Note.

00:47:23.820 It's Archie writes, at this point, I feel like I've grown into a person that's not even a

00:47:27.500 conspiracy theorist.

00:47:28.380 I feel like I'm a quote, things aren't adding up and it's super noticeableist.

00:47:33.660 Same.

00:47:34.680 And this person writes, I truly think Justin Bieber is the informant on the whole Diddy

00:47:40.940 situation.

00:47:41.520 I could not agree more with you.

00:47:44.200 I think he's probably not even allowed to speak.

00:47:46.720 He's not allowed to speak about anything.

00:47:47.500 I would imagine, hopefully he does.

00:47:50.100 I hope he finds his voice and he's already shown that he's willing to walk away from

00:47:53.240 money.

00:47:53.640 Sold his entire catalog.

00:47:54.820 That's the first step.

00:47:55.980 Kanye did the same thing.

00:47:56.780 He said, take it, take the Adidas, take everything.

00:47:58.680 I want out.

00:47:59.600 I want out, out.

00:48:00.800 He's been taking the media blows.

00:48:02.840 And listen, nobody really does it quite like Kanye, nor should they, nor am I advising that

00:48:08.640 they do.

00:48:09.720 Kanye will literally burn a pile of cash to make a point.

00:48:13.100 But, you know, there are lessons in all of it.

00:48:16.660 And I really do think that it's bravery.

00:48:19.760 We are seeing a lot of bravery.

00:48:21.220 And like I said, we are witnessing the fall of Hollywood Babylon, and that's a good thing. 0.96

00:48:25.080 All right, you guys, if you would like to support this show, you know what I'm going

00:48:26.740 to tell you to head to Locals.

00:48:27.780 We are independent.

00:48:28.420 We are demonetized.

00:48:30.020 Too much truth to be handled.

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00:48:38.200 We deeply appreciate it.

00:48:39.440 It makes it so that we don't have to worry so much about how we are going to fund the

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Candace Owens - January 14, 2025

IT’S OFFICIAL： Justin Bieber Unfollows Usher ｜ Candace Ep 132

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