Candace Owens - June 19, 2025


Justin Baldoni Wins Taylor Swift's Texts ｜ Candace Ep 203


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The Justin Baldoni Lawsuit has been dropped against the New York Times and Blake Lively, but what exactly did that mean for the rest of the country? And why did the NY Times drop the lawsuit in the first place?

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00:00:30.260 All right, you guys, we have got to do it today.
00:00:32.800 I owe it to you, I promise, because what the heck is going on with the Justin Baldoni lawsuit?
00:00:37.180 Is it over?
00:00:38.140 The amount of you that were tagging me being like, Candace, we need an episode.
00:00:42.340 And I was like, no, I cannot give up the last week of my maternity leave
00:00:44.960 because there was news that the lawsuit had been dropped.
00:00:47.860 And suddenly, like, Lively's team was coming out there trotting out a win for feminists. 1.00
00:00:52.600 They were like, we did this for women everywhere.
00:00:56.500 Literally, it made me want to throw up when I read that.
00:00:58.780 Don't worry, today I've got you covered, and it's going to make perfect sense.
00:01:01.800 I can't believe you guys missed.
00:01:03.480 It was so obvious what was happening there.
00:01:05.280 Plus, we've got to get to Tyler Perry, because also, what the heck is going on there? 0.96
00:01:09.200 A gay sexting scandal? 0.81
00:01:10.420 I am shocked, but not for the same reasons that you are shocked, so let's discuss it.
00:01:15.500 And good news, guys.
00:01:16.700 After two years of consistently bombing Palestinian children and bombing every hospital in Gaza,
00:01:21.940 Israel now claims that bombing hospitals is monstrous because Iran just did it to them.
00:01:26.560 So, I love it.
00:01:27.700 Let's get started.
00:01:28.380 Okay, guys, there was definitely online panic.
00:01:46.840 Tons of panic.
00:01:47.620 Understandably so.
00:01:48.760 Like I said, Blake was out there doing the absolute most, claiming victory.
00:01:53.100 Oh, I've been vindicated.
00:01:54.180 I'm a wonderful person.
00:01:56.060 Just forget about everything that you guys read.
00:01:58.200 Her PR agents were so desperate to make the public believe that they really had delivered
00:02:03.220 a victory.
00:02:04.060 And the headlines were very confusing because it said the lawsuit was dropped.
00:02:08.920 Good job on her PR firm. 1.00
00:02:10.600 Obviously, that is not true.
00:02:12.160 But it is true that the defamation portion of the lawsuit was dropped entirely.
00:02:18.240 So, the first thing you need to understand is we got to get back to the beginning of this
00:02:22.460 situation.
00:02:23.160 It's a lot.
00:02:24.060 It's a lot to remember, which means that there's a lot that you can forget.
00:02:27.780 When Justin Baldoni and co. initially filed a lawsuit against Blake Lively, there were actually
00:02:34.700 two lawsuits that were happening.
00:02:36.260 Remember, the New York Times, they had sued for $200 million.
00:02:39.080 He was suing the New York Times for a libel, false light, invasion of privacy, promissory
00:02:46.080 fraud, and breach of implied, in fact, contract.
00:02:49.580 That's very important to remember that, okay?
00:02:51.700 Separately, he sued Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds, and Leslie Sloan PR and her PR firm, Vision
00:02:58.600 PR, for $400 million.
00:03:00.960 And they brought against them seven causes of action.
00:03:03.460 So, negligent interference with prospective economic advantage, intentional interference
00:03:09.100 with prospective economic advantage, intentional interference with contractual relationships,
00:03:15.140 breach of implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing, and then false light and invasion
00:03:20.800 of privacy, defamation, and civil extortion.
00:03:23.760 So, the repeated claims in those two suits across both of those lawsuits, New York Times and
00:03:28.900 Blake Lively and co. were defamation, false light, and invasion of privacy.
00:03:34.360 And so, that is why, right off the bat, it should be perfectly understandable.
00:03:37.940 If you have been a committed listener to the Candace show, if you have been following this
00:03:42.040 lawsuit through me, then you should understand that ruling and why they dropped those parts
00:03:48.700 of the lawsuit and then dropped the lawsuit in its entirety against the New York Times.
00:03:52.560 Um, because, I'll tell you why it's perfectly understandable, because of history, because
00:03:57.760 of American history.
00:03:59.400 Do you guys remember that episode where I made it very clear to you guys that the New York
00:04:03.200 Times is an extension?
00:04:05.680 It is the, a publishing arm of the CIA, the Central Intelligence Agency, right?
00:04:10.860 They have been an arm of the CIA probably since its inception, to be honest, but we know at
00:04:16.060 least since Operation Mockingbird.
00:04:18.380 We did an episode where I discussed this with you.
00:04:19.860 I said, this is really important, especially you guys that are in my book club.
00:04:23.060 You know, this is not a conspiracy theory, okay?
00:04:25.400 If you've read Chaos, you know my obsession with the 1960s in America.
00:04:30.040 The CIA was just going crazy, getting away with all sorts of things, murdering people,
00:04:35.100 sex blackmail, sexual blackmail, you name it. 0.96
00:04:37.860 But the big thing was the shooting of JFK, right? 0.95
00:04:41.420 In broad daylight, next to his wife, being driven in a car, JFK was shot.
00:04:47.740 And the CIA then did the absolute most to shut down conversation, conspiracy as they called it.
00:04:55.760 In fact, that is when they started coining that term conspiracy theorist, was to get people
00:05:00.500 to stop asking questions about this shooting, probably because they were covering their own
00:05:06.300 crime, okay?
00:05:07.780 And one of the things that they did to try to settle down the public, to try to control public
00:05:13.460 perception, was that they put journalists and entire publications on their payroll.
00:05:19.480 That is what Operation Mockingbird was.
00:05:21.860 It was the CIA reaction to all of the obvious questions and the quote-unquote conspiracies
00:05:29.020 that were shaping regarding what the heck happened on that day in Dallas when a sitting president
00:05:35.220 was shot by our dear friend and ally, maybe, I don't know, just saying.
00:05:40.480 Okay, so I'm just taking you back through the episode I showed you guys, this Wikipedia excerpt,
00:05:44.560 and it says plainly here that in 1975, this is in, they were looking backwards at Operation
00:05:50.640 Mockingbird.
00:05:51.680 The Church Committee Congressional Investigations revealed agency connections with journalists
00:05:56.760 and civic groups, and elsewhere it tells us that one of the people that contributed was Arthur
00:06:03.120 Solzenberg, who heads up the New York Times, right?
00:06:07.500 Arthur, his family has owned the New York Times.
00:06:10.660 It was initially founded by Adolph Ox, who was his father-in-law, and Arthur Hayes Solzberger
00:06:16.440 basically was working for the CIA, and that became abundantly clear in an article that
00:06:22.480 Rolling Stone did, unveiling everybody who was working with the CIA Times, and essentially,
00:06:27.320 like I said, telling us what to think.
00:06:29.620 I want to say this to you guys, why that's so relevant, and you should really remember
00:06:32.940 this going forward, it is quite literally, and forget how you feel about Trump, it is
00:06:36.680 quite literally fake news.
00:06:38.220 Maybe it's not even fake news, it's state news, which implies that it's fake.
00:06:41.820 It's the government trying to make sure they can control the population, to make sure that
00:06:48.740 you guys are not doing anything out of its control.
00:06:50.880 And the best way to do that is to make people think that it is a token of their education
00:06:56.360 to read the New York Times.
00:06:58.800 When you think about the New York Times, you do think about that, right?
00:07:00.320 You're like, oh, oh yes, I read, this person reads the New York Times daily.
00:07:04.660 They'll even put this in movies and in shows, like the whole idea of somebody opening a newspaper,
00:07:10.040 the thought of the newspaper, somebody reading the newspaper, it is represented as a symbol
00:07:15.960 of someone's education.
00:07:17.320 I remember, because I majored in journalism in college, that we were taught to go to
00:07:22.220 sources that could be trusted, and we were quite literally learning that as good journalists,
00:07:26.180 we could trust and rely upon the New York Times when conducting any research, and that we should
00:07:31.640 aspire to work for the New York Times.
00:07:33.640 But the reality is, it's a fact that they are an arm of the state, and they are very powerful,
00:07:38.320 and they became more powerful around this exact same time when JFK was shot, because
00:07:43.220 the CIA had to make sure that they were untouchable, so that they could go out and they could lie
00:07:47.920 about people, but also making sure that they wouldn't be sued for defamation.
00:07:51.340 Do you guys know what happened?
00:07:52.720 Okay.
00:07:53.220 They created, in 1964, the actual malice standard for politicians and celebrities.
00:08:00.320 That effectively means, just so you understand, that journalists can lie about celebrities,
00:08:05.660 as they very much did in the matter of Justin Baldoni, and it is nearly impossible for those
00:08:11.320 celebrities and politicians to win against them, even if they can prove this is a lie.
00:08:15.460 Everything you've said about me is not true.
00:08:17.720 They'll come back and they'll say, well, yes, the journalists lied, but I don't think they
00:08:22.920 had any malice when they lied.
00:08:24.320 There was no actual malice here.
00:08:26.240 They didn't act in reckless disregard for the truth, which is a nonsense height that
00:08:32.600 you have to scale.
00:08:33.380 It makes entirely no sense.
00:08:36.500 Essentially, they're asking, yeah, we know that they lied, but did they really, really,
00:08:41.880 really know that it was false and try to hurt you?
00:08:44.480 If not, oh well.
00:08:46.240 Now, that standard was quite literally created by the New York Times.
00:08:50.440 The standard was that case that was the landmark case was New York Times versus Sullivan.
00:08:55.760 Again, dating back to that time around JFK getting shot.
00:08:59.880 They needed the New York Times to be untouchable.
00:09:01.840 So what happened in 1964 regarding this case was the story essentially is the New York Times
00:09:09.360 ran this article, OK?
00:09:12.780 And it was actually an advertisement that it ran, and it was pertaining to civil rights
00:09:18.280 protests that were happening at the time, right?
00:09:20.580 1964, you think about the civil rights unrest that was going on in this country.
00:09:23.500 Those of you that are in my book club, you know, a lot of those civil rights protests
00:09:27.400 were inorganic.
00:09:28.260 It was actually our government, which they do, is that they try to foment racial unrest 0.70
00:09:33.660 for specific reasons.
00:09:35.200 We don't need to get into all that right now, but just know that this case, the New York
00:09:39.260 Times essentially happened was they ran an advertisement.
00:09:42.700 And in this advertisement, I want you to really understand how absurd it was.
00:09:46.420 The full-page advertisement claimed that in Montgomery, Alabama, there were these student
00:09:53.340 civil rights protesters, OK, and that they had a clash with the police and that the Alabama
00:10:00.860 police locked these students on a college campus in a dining hall with a padlock and that the
00:10:09.000 police tried to starve them into submission.
00:10:12.420 The truckloads of Alabama police had descended, and these brave civil rights protesters, these
00:10:17.500 students were resisting in a cafeteria, and the police said, then you just starve and you'll
00:10:24.180 die until you do what we want.
00:10:26.640 And they did it with a padlock. 1.00
00:10:28.220 Woo! 0.99
00:10:28.680 That creates quiet imagery.
00:10:30.300 So if you're the elite reading the newspaper going, oh, my dear, we must get behind these
00:10:33.640 civil rights protests.
00:10:34.580 These poor students are being starved to death in the racist South.
00:10:38.000 The only thing is that it never happened. 0.83
00:10:40.200 That was made up.
00:10:40.840 It was just completely made up.
00:10:42.660 And so the Montgomery commissioner of public affairs was this guy named L.B.
00:10:47.080 Sullivan.
00:10:47.800 He's like, excuse me, New York Times.
00:10:49.320 This is crazy.
00:10:50.200 You can't just be out here saying that we're locking students with padlocks.
00:10:53.280 I'm going to sue you for libel.
00:10:55.040 And I'm going to cite the obvious fact that this lie that we would starve students to get
00:10:59.520 what we wanted because you're trying to foment racial unrest in America has severely impacted
00:11:04.820 my reputation because I am the man, L.B.
00:11:07.040 Sullivan, that is responsible for the police department.
00:11:09.680 Like, what are you doing?
00:11:11.300 And guess what?
00:11:12.460 He sued them on the local level and he won his case and he didn't have to approve anything
00:11:16.720 other than the fact that they had lied.
00:11:18.160 And The New York Times said, that isn't good.
00:11:20.320 So they appealed.
00:11:21.540 And then he beat them again on the state level.
00:11:24.020 They said, yeah, no, he won about half a million dollars in damages.
00:11:27.620 And they're like, no, it's crazy.
00:11:28.580 You can't just lie and make something up.
00:11:29.940 So The New York Times said, ha ha, OK, state rights.
00:11:32.920 But what about at the tippity top?
00:11:35.100 Let's take this to the Supreme Court.
00:11:36.700 New York Times versus Sullivan.
00:11:38.300 And guess what?
00:11:39.060 The government sided with the government, meaning The New York Times at the time was working
00:11:43.500 with the CIA.
00:11:44.080 And they created a new standard, new standard, actual malice, a unanimous decision that, you
00:11:49.480 know what?
00:11:50.480 It is First Amendment.
00:11:52.240 So it is also necessary for publications to be allowed to lie in the interest of the public,
00:11:58.740 because we don't want to get in the way of free speech and they need to hold these public
00:12:03.600 officials feet to the fire and they'll be afraid to do so if they can't lie.
00:12:07.860 That's crazy.
00:12:08.620 But that is what the actual malice standard is.
00:12:10.800 Like, you have to be able to somehow prove they acted in full reckless disregard for the
00:12:15.360 truth, which I would say not fact-checking whether or not students were locked in a cafeteria
00:12:20.820 with a padlock would be acting in reckless disregard of the truth.
00:12:24.320 But what am I?
00:12:25.360 What do I know?
00:12:26.360 Exactly.
00:12:26.980 Exactly nothing against the federal government.
00:12:29.300 So the moral of the story here is that the actual malice standard was literally developed
00:12:33.560 to protect The New York Times.
00:12:34.840 They have been corrupt forever.
00:12:35.960 The New York Times is effectively the publishing arm of the CIA, which means that Justin Baldoni
00:12:40.520 just tried to sue the CIA.
00:12:43.600 OK, big mistake.
00:12:46.120 Nobody wins against The New York Times.
00:12:48.160 OK, they have told egregious lies for years against celebrities, against politicians that
00:12:53.240 have, of course, led to real world, real world consequences.
00:12:56.960 But they always get away with it.
00:12:58.080 Like we were just looking, me and the producers, like who wins against them?
00:13:01.180 Sarah Palin just lost against them. 0.73
00:13:02.840 Skylar, you were just talking about the story where even an Ohio Supreme Court justice sued
00:13:08.620 them for an egregious lie and he actually won.
00:13:12.020 So you have a think about this, a judge, a Supreme Court judge has even sued The New York
00:13:18.600 Times for their lies.
00:13:19.600 And even though he won, he wasn't awarded anything for damages.
00:13:23.640 So I don't know what kind of a win that is.
00:13:25.240 They were just like, OK, fine.
00:13:26.260 We're lying.
00:13:26.940 We're getting caught lying again.
00:13:28.600 But they get away with it because the goal is to shape public opinion.
00:13:31.740 And by then the damage is done.
00:13:33.300 And the CIA knows that they can always protect them in court.
00:13:35.640 Now, this becomes especially relevant when you remember the old story that we covered,
00:13:40.840 OK, the headline that Blake Lively had engaged the CIA alum, OK, the crisis PR firm in her
00:13:48.880 battle against Justin Baldoni.
00:13:50.280 And we went, hmm, I said, that's very interesting that she did that, that Blake Lively and Ryan
00:13:54.540 Reynolds are moving to hire a PR crisis manager.
00:13:58.140 His name was Nick Shapiro.
00:13:59.620 He was formerly of the CIA.
00:14:02.880 He worked for the CIA's deputy.
00:14:05.400 He was the CIA's deputy chief of staff. 0.88
00:14:07.720 And he worked beneath their director, John Brennan, who's implausibly corrupt.
00:14:12.740 Why did they engage this firm? 0.96
00:14:14.740 Because, guys, I hate to tell you this, America's ghetto and corrupt. 0.85
00:14:19.480 Like, that's right. 0.98
00:14:20.060 It's ghetto and corrupt. 0.99
00:14:21.540 Like, that is the reality. 0.54
00:14:22.560 And The New York Times is going to be The New York Times.
00:14:24.520 And they know that they're going to be protected.
00:14:25.860 And so the best way to think about this case is that the Justin Baldoni hit piece originated
00:14:30.820 from the CIA-protected New York Times.
00:14:33.140 So on June 10th, I wasn't shocked when Judge Lehman did what always happens in these matters
00:14:39.140 pertaining to The New York Times slash CIA lawsuits.
00:14:42.360 He entirely dismissed the lawsuit against The New York Times.
00:14:46.320 And then he necessarily had to dismiss any of the repeated claims that were in Blake Lively's
00:14:51.980 filings.
00:14:52.400 Because you can't say, OK, The New York Times is not guilty, but Blake and Ryan are.
00:14:56.220 You have to gut it from their lawsuit as well.
00:14:58.760 And that's exactly what he did.
00:15:00.460 On June 10th, he ruled that Justin Baldoni cannot sue Blake Lively after dismissing The
00:15:05.680 New York Times one, that he cannot sue Blake Lively for defamation over the claims that she
00:15:10.940 made in her legal filing because the allegations made are exempt from libel.
00:15:15.380 He also ruled that Lively, that Baldoni could not sue her for extortion under California law.
00:15:24.540 Now, the extortion piece was would have also dragged The New York Times into it because
00:15:29.620 don't forget, regarding the extortion, they would have forced The New York Times to go into
00:15:35.560 discovery because the claim was that Blake Lively wanted the rights to the movie and she was extorting
00:15:42.180 them, saying that you give me what I want or I will go public with claims of sexual harassment,
00:15:47.340 allegedly.
00:15:48.340 And so in order for them to prove that, they would have subpoenaed messages with her.
00:15:52.040 And who was she going to go public with?
00:15:53.980 The New York Times.
00:15:55.180 So everything the judge just did, in my view, was to protect the CIA.
00:16:00.160 That is why everyone was so surprised.
00:16:01.780 I was like, no, this is how it works.
00:16:03.200 If you pay attention, it is you cannot sue the CIA.
00:16:06.420 You cannot win against the government.
00:16:07.620 And there are so many public cases that have happened.
00:16:10.320 I mean, Jeffrey Epstein, he was walking free.
00:16:12.560 OK, and we learned from Acosta, from Secretary Acosta, once Trump had appointed him, he said,
00:16:18.640 I was told to let Jeffrey Epstein walk free.
00:16:21.080 Even when this man was caught with crimes against minors, he was being told that he was an asset
00:16:28.440 and he was to let him free and he listened.
00:16:30.720 So do not ever operate under the delusion that there is not a hand that works above judges.
00:16:36.780 It simply does.
00:16:37.680 And that hand is the federal government, the deep state.
00:16:41.240 Now, after gutting those portions of a lawsuit, which are to be expected, the judge then said,
00:16:46.120 OK, now what's left here are your claims, which have nothing to do with The New York Times.
00:16:51.240 OK, and he said, which is the, you know, essentially the tortious interference, the contractual stuff.
00:16:57.460 And he is allowing them to now revise the lawsuit and represent it gutted because he is saying it's OK for you to pursue these different claims pertaining to whether or not lively breached or interfered with her contract.
00:17:10.300 And that is what they're doing right now.
00:17:11.560 They're going to have to resubmit their lawsuit with anything pertaining to The New York Times or that could potentially implicate The New York Times removed from it. 0.97
00:17:19.880 Like I said, America is ghetto and corrupt.
00:17:22.880 And that's just the reality that we all should understand by now. 0.88
00:17:25.940 But in a fun update and a fun twist, and I did not think we were going to get this, and I'm surprised that we did.
00:17:33.020 Judge Lehman has ruled yes on the Taylor Swift text messages.
00:17:37.640 Now, we went back and forth on this showing you that she was fighting.
00:17:41.400 And I mean, Blake Lively and Ryan were had been fighting tooth and nail not to allow these messages to get into the hands of Team Baldoni.
00:17:50.360 And essentially, they radically filed this protective order like, no, no, no, no, you cannot get this.
00:17:55.540 And then I told you that behind the scenes, Scott Swift, because Blake's lawyer allegedly implicitly threatened his daughter, said, we will give you these messages if you want to subpoena them and told them specifically which messages that they had.
00:18:09.660 And so it looks like they did not relinquish those messages immediately at Team Baldoni, but they've indicated that they're very willing to abide by any subpoena.
00:18:21.080 And now Judge Lehman has ruled fair game.
00:18:24.160 OK, and here is what this here is the reason why he is ruling fair game.
00:18:28.460 Scott, if we can pull up page three of his ruling, I think is where it is.
00:18:31.880 Guys, don't mind my squint.
00:18:33.160 I swear it's a light and sometimes it's hard for me to to see it.
00:18:35.800 OK, so he is saying, if you see.
00:18:43.800 Lively alleges that Baldoni and Heath harassed her in numerous ways during work on an end with us and that her concerns about her behavior began, quote, early in pre-production and production process and that she expressed these concerns in, quote, contemporaneous messages.
00:18:59.820 He goes on to say, given that Lively has represented that Swift had knowledge of complaints or discussions about the working environment on the film, among other issues, the requests for messages with Swift regarding the film and this action are reasonably tailored to discover information that would prove or disprove Lively's harassment and retaliation claims.
00:19:21.720 So this is really funny because this is basically what's happening is she's getting her due justice in trying to represent that Taylor Swift was her dragon.
00:19:32.080 And she loved to use Taylor Swift's name.
00:19:34.160 She's name dropping her. 0.98
00:19:35.300 Ryan Reynolds is name dropping her.
00:19:36.820 They've been name dropping Taylor Swift to Justin Baldoni just to get whatever it is that they want.
00:19:43.140 And you'll realize one day, said Ryan Reynolds, that there's a reason that Tay-Tay trusts her so much and they're bringing Taylor to the house and having her look at the script.
00:19:52.040 She's represented so much that Taylor Swift was involved with this movie one way or another.
00:19:57.340 And in her initial filing, she said, oh, I've got so many messages.
00:20:01.120 I've got witnesses, contemporaneous messages that prove what I was feeling like at this time when this was going down.
00:20:06.520 So you yourself, because you humble bragged the entire time about your closeness with Taylor Swift, one of your dragons, have now made her relevant.
00:20:15.440 And I love that.
00:20:16.460 I love that.
00:20:17.040 Justice right there is sweet.
00:20:19.000 It's like you grifted too close to the sun, baby girl, you know.
00:20:22.140 And now Judge Lehman is going to allow it.
00:20:24.840 And I cannot wait because I said from the very beginning, whatever is in those messages, it completely has Blake Lively terrified.
00:20:33.180 So terrified, in fact, that according to Scott Swift, she specifically asked Taylor Swift to delete some messages. 0.93
00:20:40.120 And Taylor Swift would not have done that because she is not an idiot. 1.00
00:20:42.520 OK, you say what you want about her. 1.00
00:20:44.540 That girl did not get to where she is at in life by being a dummy. 0.80
00:20:47.960 And she would not have deleted them.
00:20:49.680 She would have shown them to a lawyer, showed that to her PR, showed it to Daddy Swift.
00:20:53.220 And they would have said, hold on.
00:20:54.980 When somebody is asking you to commit a crime, you don't.
00:20:57.940 And now we know that Scott Swift also said, here are the dates.
00:21:01.880 These are the messages that you're looking for.
00:21:04.480 And guys, what else can I say here other than game on?
00:21:09.060 Game on.
00:21:09.960 I am giddy.
00:21:10.840 You should be giddy.
00:21:11.860 And this does still feel to me like some justice for Justin.
00:21:15.720 It really does.
00:21:16.660 And it is sad that The New York Times has never held accountable for lies that they tell.
00:21:21.140 But I think that this case happening is good because there are so many people who, like me, and I'm including myself in this, grew up believing that they were the truth.
00:21:30.560 Like these people were fighting the fourth.
00:21:32.660 They represent the fourth estate.
00:21:34.680 You know, the press exists so that we can keep the government in check.
00:21:39.860 And now you recognize they are the government.
00:21:41.760 And the question we should be asking ourselves is who then was powerful enough to have The New York Times do that to Justin and why, right?
00:21:49.260 Because that person's got to be a big, a big person.
00:21:51.640 Maybe it's someone like Ari Emanuel.
00:21:54.260 I could see him.
00:21:55.280 He's been, he's got a pretty powerful family there.
00:21:58.680 And Blake and Ryan were his clients.
00:22:01.620 But whatever happened to Justin Baldoni, very powerful people were behind it.
00:22:05.680 Very powerful people were able to get the ball rolling at The New York Times, destroy him, and to take away his publishing rights.
00:22:11.700 And unfortunately, there's not going to be justice in regards to The New York Times.
00:22:14.680 We're not going to find out who those people are.
00:22:16.360 But there should still be justice against Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds.
00:22:21.600 That's all I'm going to say about that before we get into Tyler Perry.
00:22:24.100 First, I want to remind you guys about pre-born because you know I love them.
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00:24:48.740 All right, you guys, listen up.
00:24:51.840 Tyler Perry is being sued.
00:24:54.860 He's being sued by an actor on the Oval for sexual assault and harassment.
00:25:01.880 And this is an actor who worked on this Tyler Perry-created TV drama.
00:25:07.160 He's alleging that Perry leveraged his industry power to repeatedly sexually assault and harass him while keeping him quiet.
00:25:14.980 He filed the lawsuit in Los Angeles Superior Court, and that actor is Derek Dixon.
00:25:20.840 There he is.
00:25:21.460 He has appeared thus far on 85 episodes of the BET series, and he wants $260 million in damages.
00:25:32.040 Part of this lawsuit, he's saying, quote,
00:25:33.600 And of course, Perry's attorney has come back and said that this is positively false.
00:26:03.420 But some text messages have leaked.
00:26:06.920 And here's what I'm going to say.
00:26:07.740 People are surprised by this.
00:26:09.800 My former producer, executive producer, from when I was at The Daily Wire, texted me.
00:26:14.280 She's like, oh, my gosh, have you seen this?
00:26:15.600 You have to cover this.
00:26:17.160 And I read it.
00:26:18.520 And I am being so serious.
00:26:20.580 And I sometimes, you know, Michael and my former producer, we have to kind of, the gap must be closed between my experience growing up as a black girl and her experience growing up as a southern white girl.
00:26:31.260 And I go, is this a white versus black person upbringing thing?
00:26:34.900 Because she's shocked by this lawsuit because she's like, oh, my gosh, can you believe Tyler Perry's gay?
00:26:40.020 And I went, wait, there are people that think Tyler Perry is straight?
00:26:43.020 Because I grew up when he was doing Madea.
00:26:45.700 And we used to go to the salon and they used to sell Madea bootlegs.
00:26:49.800 We have a person that walks around with, like, a giant black garbage bag.
00:26:55.520 I'm not kidding.
00:26:55.900 And they go into salons and they, like, sell bootleg movies, bootleg plays, whatever.
00:27:01.980 And Madea was, like, all the rave. 0.99
00:27:04.560 And that's how I knew Tyler Perry.
00:27:06.460 I knew Tyler Perry as cross-dressing as a woman.
00:27:09.560 Fantastic plays that he was doing.
00:27:11.420 And I never in a million years thought, like, I just always thought he was gay or thought that he was, like, openly gay.
00:27:18.340 So then I find out, as I'm reading this lawsuit via Michaelin, that he has a wife or has a partner and he has a kid.
00:27:28.920 And I'm going, OK, so this is why people are doubly shocked by this.
00:27:31.980 I'm shocked because I'm just learning that there are people that are shocked that he's gay.
00:27:35.220 And I'm also shocked at, like, people thinking that this is a surprise anymore.
00:27:39.980 This is how the industry functions.
00:27:42.040 Like, how could anyone think that Tyler Perry could climb to the top of Hollywood?
00:27:48.620 And, yes, he's done some amazing things, especially being someone that has sought to own his own studios, et cetera, et cetera.
00:27:56.120 But Hollywood's a club and you've got to be in it or you've got to be out of it.
00:27:59.400 And those of you who are in the book club and we're reading Hollywood Babylon together, you know what I'm talking about.
00:28:05.200 It's always been a lavender club and you're in or you're out.
00:28:09.640 And so I, again, I'm just going to say that I am shocked that people are shocked.
00:28:13.980 We are just shocked at each other.
00:28:15.900 There might be some cultural differences here.
00:28:17.480 I just, yeah, assumes that Tyler Perry, I thought he was openly gay.
00:28:23.480 So this is very, yeah, here he is.
00:28:24.580 This is very shocking.
00:28:25.460 I am just completely shook by this.
00:28:27.040 And, listen, regarding this lawsuit, do I at all, obviously, write the text messages, do I at all doubt that he's having relations?
00:28:35.800 I mean, the text messages are super weird.
00:28:38.260 Asking the guy if he's, you know, guiltless while having, does he feel guiltless about sex?
00:28:43.900 How can we help him be guiltless about sex?
00:28:46.340 And, yeah, here's the message I'm going to read it.
00:28:47.800 He writes, what's it going to take for you to have guiltless sex? 0.62
00:28:50.980 Have y'all found that yet in therapy?
00:28:52.800 And, yes, it's the exact same kind of car, Geo Metro.
00:28:57.220 And then this person writes back, giving up my religious guilt, becoming a Buddhist.
00:29:01.020 That's so cool where you came from.
00:29:03.140 And then he writes back to him, unfortunately, Derek, I have friends who are in their 50s and 60s who are still dealing with that.
00:29:08.340 And it's sad.
00:29:09.340 You can be, you can have freedom from religious guilt and still believe in Christ.
00:29:13.960 It's very groomery is what I'm going to say.
00:29:16.140 And it is why so many Christians are against sending their kids into Hollywood or getting them involved.
00:29:22.680 It's like how many people can go into Hollywood, whether they're at Nickelodeon or Disney, and come out with all of these traumas and saying that, hey, it's a big club.
00:29:32.760 It's a big club in Hollywood.
00:29:34.080 And you're in or you're out.
00:29:35.100 And so this is not shocking, you know, is this actor.
00:29:40.160 By the way, can you look up Skylar for me?
00:29:41.340 Derek, how old is Derek?
00:29:44.220 Do I think that he was flirting with Tyler and sending the signs that this was OK because he wanted to climb the ladder in Hollywood?
00:29:52.320 Of course I do.
00:29:53.620 Of course I do.
00:29:54.320 Do I think that he then saw a way and a means to, like, get what he wanted, which is a little bit of fame, and then kind of cash out by suing Tyler?
00:30:03.860 Of course I do.
00:30:04.680 Like, you guys already know where I stand on this, what these people are doing in Hollywood.
00:30:09.260 Everyone knows what the casting couch is, but now we're kind of in an era where people who are kind of willing to maybe play the game a little bit or flirt and pretend to be, like, totally, like, oh, my gosh, I can't believe this happened to me.
00:30:20.560 I just wanted to be an actor. 0.82
00:30:22.080 It's like, why are you talking to Tyler Perry about your therapy sessions, about whether or not you can have guiltless homosexual sex at all? 0.99
00:30:30.540 Right? 0.99
00:30:30.840 How old is he?
00:30:32.460 You guys looking this up?
00:30:35.600 Yeah, well, I mean, he's in the movie.
00:30:37.600 What's his last name, Derek?
00:30:38.680 Somebody maybe in the chat will find it.
00:30:41.360 It'll come up.
00:30:42.120 Somebody in the chat, if you guys were putting you all on this, find out how old this actor Derek is, because I'm going to guess he's not, like, a Disney child.
00:30:50.320 And it is just the casting couch. 0.97
00:30:52.880 And everybody kind of is, like, in my view in Hollywood, like a pimp or a prostitute. 1.00
00:30:59.200 So it's like you're going to be a pimp, you're going to be a prostitute. 0.99
00:31:01.040 And there have been so many people that have made that clear. 0.99
00:31:03.040 So you, of course, should not be shocked by Tyler Perry being a part of the club.
00:31:09.100 Like, okay, this person, nope, he's in his 30s, this person says. 0.96
00:31:13.560 So that makes it even more ridiculous to me.
00:31:16.420 I mean, you're going to tell me that in your 30s you don't have a way, and we can fact check that, so don't take that to the bank. 0.60
00:31:21.660 Like, but you're going to tell me that in your 30s you just, like, didn't have the wherewithal to be, like, no, this is absolutely creepy right away. 0.75
00:31:28.300 And I'm not talking to you about, like, my therapy sessions and my Christian guilt about homosexual sex. 0.86
00:31:33.520 Like, you want me to believe that?
00:31:35.500 This person says 35 or 35.
00:31:37.380 Oh, my gosh.
00:31:38.800 Yeah, this is probably in my courtroom dismissed because I just, I find that to be completely ridiculous that this person is some kind of victim.
00:31:45.820 But, of course, what's going to happen is they're going to end up settling this case because Tyler Perry is not going to be, want to be dragged through the press.
00:31:53.220 And my guess is they did a little leak.
00:31:54.920 Like, those are some of the messages.
00:31:56.560 His lawyers are just showing Tyler Perry they're serious.
00:31:58.820 This is a shakedown.
00:31:59.960 We've got more messages.
00:32:00.860 You don't want this to get more embarrassing than settle.
00:32:03.020 And Tyler Perry is likely going to settle.
00:32:05.420 And here we are, guys.
00:32:06.780 You know, if people actually abided by that Christianity, he wouldn't probably be in this circumstance in the first place.
00:32:11.900 But what do I know?
00:32:14.040 Oh, I also wanted to tell you guys this.
00:32:15.900 So this is kind of crazy.
00:32:17.640 Just building on what we were talking about yesterday, different subject, obviously. 0.83
00:32:21.060 It's just the astounding arrogance and hypocrisy of people that continue to support Israel. 0.83
00:32:26.060 Like, I lied. 0.90
00:32:27.760 I've been maimed and caricatured for speaking about what's happening in Gaza as they bombed.
00:32:32.440 How many hospitals have they actually bombed in Gaza?
00:32:34.460 Like, we've got to be at, like, 16 hospitals.
00:32:37.660 They've just been bombing hospitals.
00:32:39.060 And they always go, there was a tunnel under this one.
00:32:41.300 And they never proved there was a tunnel under any hospital, right?
00:32:44.540 And yesterday, Iran hits a hospital in Israel.
00:32:49.260 And suddenly, they are out crying in the streets.
00:32:53.180 These Zionists are out crying in the streets. 1.00
00:32:55.080 And I am sorry, but, like, Bibi Netanyahu on this tour doing his sad face going,
00:32:59.880 oh, my God, what savages, what kind of a savage bombs a hospital?
00:33:05.780 What's happening?
00:33:06.840 I'm just, what is happening?
00:33:08.940 We are, like, beyond parody.
00:33:11.380 When they bomb hospitals, it's moral.
00:33:13.720 When they invade countries, it's moral, okay?
00:33:16.780 When people respond to them invading their country by bombing a hospital, it is the worst,
00:33:22.860 most immoral, most savage thing that could ever happen.
00:33:26.720 And don't you understand why we had to attack Iran? 0.99
00:33:29.640 These savage religious fundamentalists retaliated by bombing a hospital. 0.87
00:33:35.100 You know, you got to look up. 0.87
00:33:36.380 There's got to be a total number of hospitals they bombed in Gaza.
00:33:39.300 I got to look this up because it is—I couldn't believe it that this was even trending.
00:33:43.480 Like, I just don't know what it is.
00:33:45.360 They just really believe that they have a carte blanche to do whatever the hell they want in this world.
00:33:50.440 And if anybody asks a question, they're going to go, look at your Bible.
00:33:55.620 Bible says the land of Israel is automatically holy.
00:34:00.360 Whatever you do in Israel, it's fine.
00:34:02.160 Whatever Jeffrey Epstein was doing, it's all good because he was doing it for the Israeli government.
00:34:07.000 It makes me sick.
00:34:07.920 It really does make me sick. 0.98
00:34:08.660 It's like the idea here, by the way, if you follow this ridiculous logic, this dispensationalism, 0.84
00:34:13.060 very modern logic here, it means that if Kim Jong-un, like, drops a nuke in Israel and takes
00:34:20.980 over and moves a bunch of Koreans in Israel, then whatever Kim Jong-un does from that moment
00:34:26.340 on, you can't critique because your Bible tells you you'll be blessed if you bless Kim Jong-un's
00:34:31.760 Israel.
00:34:32.560 Don't you get it?
00:34:34.600 You cannot penetrate that logic.
00:34:36.620 It's perfect logic.
00:34:38.020 Kim Jong-un, if he takes over Israel, you must worship everything he does and you will be 0.78
00:34:42.840 blessed because your Bible tells you that.
00:34:45.040 That's exactly what Jesus meant.
00:34:46.680 It means that whoever takes over that land at any moment, you will be blessed if you bless
00:34:51.020 those people.
00:34:52.460 It's nonsense. 0.99
00:34:53.660 It is utter nonsense. 0.96
00:34:55.840 And I'm just happy that people are realizing it because I just could not believe Bibi Netanyahu 0.79
00:35:00.300 and his fake sad face outside of this hospital pretending like this is just the moral crime
00:35:05.080 of the century that they've just been doing for two years straight in Gaza and calling us 0.93
00:35:08.880 all anti-Semites for caring and saying, why are you bombing every single hospital?
00:35:12.840 In Gaza, you're obviously doing that intentionally.
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00:37:15.080 guys, what are you guys thinking? I love looking at your chat. It's just, you guys are always so
00:37:19.200 fun in the chat, in the live chat. Let's get into some of your comments here. First up, we have top five.
00:37:24.920 He said, I've got to say that Taylor Swift's best song is Antihero, where she admits that she is the
00:37:30.740 problem. I've actually never heard that song. I did stop at the Lover album because I said,
00:37:34.740 like I told you, London Boy was a bop and I felt comfortable there. And I never heard it,
00:37:40.040 but maybe I will listen to it. But yeah, she admits that she's the problem in a few of her songs,
00:37:43.740 actually. Marzi writes, I think Taylor Swift has something to hide in the whole Blake and Ryan
00:37:48.760 drama. I don't want to sound too crazy, but I think she's a mean girl. There is no way that her PR team 1.00
00:37:53.280 would allow something like this to ruin her image. Yeah, I think that that was why they wanted
00:37:57.140 to establish communication with Justin Baldoni's team and say, like, here's what we're willing to
00:38:01.860 give you, because this is stuff that's not going to blemish her. It's probably going to blemish just
00:38:05.740 Blake Lively. And they don't want to be dragged into this and have other messages that could
00:38:10.620 potentially get, you know, in the mix. They're like, here is exactly what you're looking for.
00:38:14.380 Everything else is off the table. And it's smart. This was a very smart thing for them to do.
00:38:18.500 And we know that there's got to be something, quote unquote, problematic about Taylor Swift,
00:38:23.200 because if we are to believe Scott Swift, if we are to believe that he that they threatened
00:38:27.800 Taylor Swift and said, you know, remind your client that we have 10 years of friendship and text
00:38:32.580 messages at our disposal, that means that they've got some things to embarrass Taylor Swift. And maybe
00:38:37.600 it's just talking about guys who she likes, whatever it is. But they believe that it's something that's
00:38:42.300 going to ruin her image, which, by the way, I want to be very clear on very team Taylor Swift on that.
00:38:45.900 That is a dirty, nasty game to play with friends. Doesn't shock me at all because Ryan seems to me
00:38:52.100 like he has a lot of repressed anger. Dr. Holly writes, Candice, is there any precedent I can use
00:38:57.480 to avoid getting my son the Tdap and meningitis vaccine boosters before he goes to seventh grade
00:39:02.180 here in CT? They are sending letters saying that he's out of compliance and won't be allowed to attend
00:39:06.660 school or athletics. And he plays football, lacrosse and basketball. Also, my husband and I can't
00:39:11.420 afford to stay home and homeschool with him. You know, it's so funny you bring that up because
00:39:14.720 my sister is pulling her kid out of school right now. He goes to school in Connecticut and he's only
00:39:21.940 five years old and she was very uncomfortable with the conditioning that was happening. He is five
00:39:26.340 years old in the classroom. The ADL has somehow received access to classrooms and they are already
00:39:33.100 teaching these kids about antisemitism. She's like, this is weird. My sister's married to a guy that's
00:39:37.260 half Jewish. She's like, what is this? I don't want my kids thinking like this. And she has changed
00:39:42.740 around her entire life to be able to homeschool. I'm just like very amazed at my sister's ability 0.99
00:39:47.140 to do this. She's now getting up at 4 a.m. to make this work. She's an accountant. And it's a lot
00:39:52.080 of work. And they are not, by any stretch of an imagination, a wealthy family. But she wanted to
00:39:58.360 adapt her life for her children and to make sure that she wasn't giving them over. And she also made
00:40:03.720 a decision not to vax her second child after finally listening to her little sister and didn't want to
00:40:09.280 play the game with the schools owning her children. And so there's a network of moms in Connecticut 1.00
00:40:13.980 that are standing up to these, to Big Pharma. My sister is among them. And she told me that there
00:40:20.440 were these meetings, like these moms that are homeschooling. I think there are also some moms
00:40:24.660 that might be thinking about coming together to micro school, meaning that you could get, like you could
00:40:29.380 link up with a mom that is homeschooling and you could pay for a teacher to teach both of your kids
00:40:36.340 so it's cheaper so that somebody else is homeschooling your kids. But where there is a will, there is a
00:40:41.900 way. And if you genuinely do not want to subject your child to the Tdap and you shouldn't, it's a 1.00
00:40:47.200 please just go watch my series. I don't want to get in trouble here on YouTube, but every mother
00:40:51.980 should watch my vaccine series available at CandaceElwins.com. The combination shots, in my view, are the
00:40:58.540 big no. MMR, Tdap, DTap, all of them. And so, like I said, where there's a will, there's a way. So get in
00:41:06.800 touch with all the parents in Connecticut that are kind of networking at this moment.
00:41:13.620 DeBert Sanchez writes,
00:41:15.860 Hey, Candace, what would you say is the ultimate end goal of whoever is behind all the lying and
00:41:19.860 trying to control the people through state news and all these initiatives? Thank you and love your
00:41:23.800 show. You answered the question, controlling the people, controlling the masses. When you want war,
00:41:28.820 you're not going to send your kids if you're an elitist. So you need to be able to effectively
00:41:32.380 propagandize to get people fired up. I mean, really understanding like Sigmund Freud, Edward Bernays,
00:41:38.300 and how they knew that psychology was the means to do it and what efforts they made to test their
00:41:45.400 psychological theories of, well, can we make all Americans hate Germans? The propaganda campaigns
00:41:50.600 during World War II, which was led by Edward Bernays, to make all Americans hate Germans.
00:41:55.360 Fascinating to learn about the history of that, to make Americans eat breakfast. He was behind
00:42:00.040 campaigns to make women smoke cigarettes. They've done these things in lockstep with big pharma,
00:42:05.880 with big war, and they have always been effective. Civil rights movements, getting people,
00:42:12.820 you know, to get out and riot and protest when they want them to, but also get people to stay at home.
00:42:18.000 Stay at home. Save lives. You love your grandma, right? We're all in this together. That is
00:42:24.280 psychology that they have thought through, and it is always to impart some sort of a mass formation
00:42:31.640 psychosis upon the public, whether it's to get you to roll up your arm and get a vaccine and to make
00:42:37.080 you terrified, to make you walk with six feet social distance or let your grandma die alone.
00:42:42.220 There is always an end, and it usually is to empower the government always, whatever the power,
00:42:49.620 whatever the government is trying, whatever initiative the government has at any given time,
00:42:53.360 they are trying to fulfill. Lastly, Len Smith writes, hey, Candace, have you looked into Tory Lane's
00:42:59.420 case recently? I remember your thoughts on it a few years ago, and it seems like there's still some
00:43:03.060 injustice happening with him now. Okay, so I will say I never did a super deep dive on that case,
00:43:08.240 and I'm kind of surprised how many people keep telling me that I got it wrong and that, like,
00:43:12.720 he didn't shoot her that night. I know she was shot. I know that the doctor testified they pulled
00:43:18.000 the bullets out of her, the bullet fragments out of her foot. It would be pretty difficult to get a
00:43:23.720 doctor, I think, to go on record and be willing to lose his license over a couple of people fighting
00:43:29.560 in a car. Now, if there's a reason that you think that Tory Lane's or a doctor would have lied,
00:43:35.980 or if you're saying to me that somebody else shot Megan Thee Stallion and I missed that,
00:43:41.180 please send it to me. You guys can always send me tips at CandaceOwens.com. You guys know that I
00:43:46.000 absolutely always go into that inbox and see what you guys are sending me. I don't know enough about
00:43:51.660 that is what I'll say. I thought that I had it right, but I'm always happy to be proven wrong
00:43:56.320 with more information. So send it over to tips at CandaceOwens.com. All right, you guys,
00:44:01.580 we will see you on Monday, I think. And I know I said I was going to give you the Russell Brown
00:44:06.540 interview, but I'm going to bump that to next week because I promised that I would provide
00:44:10.020 the updates and the Taylor Swift messages were just too good to leave alone. So we'll see you on Monday.