Candace Owens - Loose Lips Sink Ships： ANOTHER Zoom Call Leaks… ｜ Candace Ep 297

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, welcome back to Season 9, Episode 2 of Everybody Grieves Differently.

00:00:06.100 I'm your host.

00:00:07.020 That's what we're told, at least.

00:00:08.840 You know, in retrospect, we should have probably saw that for what it was, recognized that

00:00:13.360 expression for what it was, another well-financed PR campaign against people for asking meaningful

00:00:19.540 questions, shaming people.

00:00:21.580 Now, you might be surprised then to learn who actually uttered that expression first

00:00:27.000 over at Turning Point USA, before Charlie's memorial.

00:00:30.000 In a corporate-wide phone call, which took place, or Zoom call rather, just five and

00:00:34.980 a half days after Charlie's assassination.

00:00:37.540 And speaking of different ways to grieve, the now former CEO of Daily Wire, Jeremy Boring,

00:00:41.560 is back trying to make a comeback to proclaim his name in the press after he ran the company

00:00:47.400 into the ground with his petty grievances and personal passion projects.

00:00:51.500 And like everyone in the mainstream media, he appears to be auditioning for a role at

00:00:56.040 AIPAC in the very tried-and-true manner of publicly attacking Tucker Carlson and yours truly,

00:01:03.380 correlating us to Antifa thugs and also this show to pornography.

00:01:09.120 Anyway, welcome back to Candace.

00:01:10.740 All right, you guys.

00:01:26.120 First and foremost, a major correction from yesterday.

00:01:28.900 Thank you to people in Iowa for messaging me.

00:01:31.220 We made a mistake and showed you a picture of a man that is actually not named Bob Flood

00:01:36.000 at all.

00:01:36.900 His name was actually Bob Ferguson.

00:01:38.820 He's from Iowa.

00:01:39.900 He has nothing to do with the story.

00:01:41.140 It was genuinely a full-blown mistake.

00:01:43.380 I've actually reached out to him, and I just deeply apologize.

00:01:46.820 We wiped it from the episode, but many of you saw it before we actually did.

00:01:52.220 So I just wanted to clarify that that picture that we showed yesterday of Bob Flood from Chicago

00:01:56.800 was not Bob Flood from Chicago.

00:01:59.060 It was a man named Bob Ferguson from Iowa who literally had nothing to do with anything.

00:02:04.860 So my apologies to Bob Ferguson.

00:02:06.760 Hopefully, we will get in touch.

00:02:08.180 I'm kind of using some back channels to make that happen.

00:02:11.100 Anyway, back to today.

00:02:12.400 They say hindsight is 20-20, right?

00:02:15.660 That's the expression.

00:02:16.520 Hindsight is 20-20. 0.99

00:02:17.640 And damn, if we are not realizing that right now. 0.98

00:02:21.120 I can say with full confidence after combining what we have learned throughout this investigation 0.98

00:02:26.640 to be a fact, and after now speaking with employees who were let go in this recent string of aggressive

00:02:31.780 firings, employees that did nothing or were told, weren't told that they did anything,

00:02:36.620 they certainly were not the people that were leaking to me, that I do believe firmly from

00:02:41.760 the beginning that Erica was intimately involved in the PR messaging and the PR campaign at

00:02:49.460 different times against me, sometimes against the entire world, but against me in particular.

00:02:54.280 Just to recap why this is now suddenly important, no one's picking on her, we have confirmed

00:03:01.500 for a fact that she lied.

00:03:04.220 She liked my face, actually, regarding the Superman neck.

00:03:07.220 She blamed that on Andrew Colvett, said that he went rogue, that Dr. Lee Trotter also went

00:03:12.580 rogue, violated HIPAA, that they hopped on the phone and did this without her consent or

00:03:18.380 knowledge.

00:03:18.920 And on top of that, Andrew then sends out a tweet.

00:03:21.000 And I told you, confirmed to you, the doctor did not violate HIPAA.

00:03:24.860 It was actually a three-way call.

00:03:26.920 And the statement pertaining to Superman neck came from her.

00:03:31.280 Andrew Colvett, in that regard, was doing Erica's bidding.

00:03:35.020 He was taking a figurative bullet for her.

00:03:37.720 She did not misspeak there.

00:03:38.760 There's no way to look around it.

00:03:39.740 She lied.

00:03:40.140 She lied right to my face when she said that. 0.93

00:03:42.540 She knew that HIPAA, he didn't violate HIPAA.

00:03:45.900 She lied in a doctor, a surgeon, and she knew that she was on that call.

00:03:50.620 So let's just say that clearly.

00:03:53.180 We've also now confirmed that she was at the Hamptons retreat, the now infamous Hamptons

00:04:00.280 retreat.

00:04:00.860 She was present when Bibi Netanyahu called.

00:04:03.820 And that bothers me because I was out here catching a lot of heat for telling the truth.

00:04:10.620 Now, we have two different versions of that story.

00:04:13.140 Andrew Colvett said that Bibi offered to fund Turning Point to the Next Level.

00:04:18.480 I have since confirmed what Andrew Colvett said with two people that are not related to

00:04:22.660 Andrew Colvett at all.

00:04:24.240 Erica, despite being at that dinner and confirming that she was there, does not remember that

00:04:27.960 part.

00:04:28.440 She says that there was not an offer that was made and that Bibi was calling about the

00:04:32.820 letter that Charlie wrote him back in May.

00:04:36.300 Andrew confirmed to me that Charlie described that summit as like an intervention was being

00:04:45.640 staged over Israel.

00:04:47.640 So I find that to be interesting.

00:04:49.600 Again, with everything that we now know, my assumption was she didn't weigh in, weighed

00:04:53.960 into things and weighed into the water and didn't say anything about the debate that was

00:04:57.960 happening because she was so overwhelmed and kind of catching her breath as a new CEO and

00:05:03.360 chairman.

00:05:03.640 I think now I have a different perspective on that.

00:05:07.740 I'm not sure why she did not come out and say if she was capable of doing calls and sitting

00:05:13.880 down and doing meetings, come out and say like, yes, this this Hampton summit did happen.

00:05:17.440 Yes, Bibi did call and try to work through with Andrew why they have different memories of

00:05:22.760 whether or not he called to fund things to the next level.

00:05:26.520 We have also confirmed that Erica and Andrew were working together on that Fort Huachuca PR

00:05:31.180 response.

00:05:31.660 We got the craziest attacks I've ever endured.

00:05:35.200 Alex Jones, quite entertainingly, he's coming for me my whole life, everything.

00:05:41.440 But that PR response was confirmed that she was a part of that through this obscure YouTuber,

00:05:47.400 Paramount Tactical, rather than going directly to me after we sat down.

00:05:50.640 That, to me, seems like a pretty strong violation of a well-meaning conversation that I had with

00:05:58.700 her for four hours.

00:05:59.380 And I should also mention that that was the same YouTuber, despite also going into Mitch's

00:06:04.880 entire past, Mitch knows past.

00:06:06.540 But after calling for a ceasefire and saying, let us sit down and talk, they welcomed Paramount

00:06:11.780 Tactical onto Charlie Kirk's podcast show while I was in this hotel room to debunk me.

00:06:17.040 I had no idea it was happening.

00:06:19.340 And then that, I think, was the beginning of when it clicked to me, seeing that him being

00:06:25.740 caught live, Andrew Colbert live messaging something from Erica after she told me that they

00:06:30.840 were disappointed in Andrew, that he wasn't going to be involved in PR anymore.

00:06:34.140 That's when I realized that I was being lied to, that she was making moves behind the scenes. 0.79

00:06:39.120 And the answer that we will likely never get, to add one more point here, is whether Andrew

00:06:45.080 was lying or Erica was confused.

00:06:48.660 And I would like to say that I don't believe Andrew was lying.

00:06:52.140 I believe Andrew was telling me the truth when he said that when he stepped off of the

00:06:55.240 plane in Provo on September 10th, he basically collapsed into Erica's arms, crying on the tarmac

00:07:02.640 because he had all this pent-up emotion, had this big plane.

00:07:05.640 Everyone was messaging him about Charlie asking for his status.

00:07:08.920 He didn't know what was going on.

00:07:10.040 And the impression that I got was that Andrew was on that plane alone.

00:07:13.400 But then we were later told that Andrew was accompanied by his wife.

00:07:16.400 But Erica, during our face-to-face meeting, had no recollection of his wife stepping off

00:07:20.700 of the plane.

00:07:21.120 When I asked, I said, was he with his wife?

00:07:23.480 She was unable to answer that question as to whether or not Andrew flew in with his wife

00:07:27.720 to Provo.

00:07:28.840 How is that possible?

00:07:30.000 Is Andrew lying about that?

00:07:31.400 Or is Erica misremembering? 1.00

00:07:34.140 What we know thereafter is that when they arrived at the hospital, after waiting for an hour,

00:07:40.400 if Andrew was too believed, then she waited for an hour on the tarmac for Andrew's flight

00:07:44.480 to land.

00:07:44.980 They arrived at the hospital and went in through separate entrances.

00:07:50.300 Andrew went through the front, a main entrance where there were other TPUSA staff there, people

00:07:56.560 that were there on that day, and Erica went in through a back or side entrance.

00:08:00.060 These are the facts, okay?

00:08:01.260 If they disturb you, then you should know that you are not alone.

00:08:05.380 The world obviously melted down yesterday when we played the corporate wide call hosted

00:08:09.220 by Erica to Turning Point employees following the memorial event.

00:08:13.000 The overwhelming consensus, the human response to that is that you feel disturbed when you listen

00:08:18.180 to it, spiritually disturbed by the emotion of it, the happiness.

00:08:23.200 Speaking about merchandise being sold, hats being sold.

00:08:26.320 Again, this is not a sales call.

00:08:28.040 This is the entire team on the phone.

00:08:31.780 This new corporate wide call that I'm going to share with you today took place even earlier

00:08:37.760 so that you can go back into your time machines.

00:08:41.840 It took place just five and a half days after Charlie was pronounced dead, five and a half

00:08:46.160 days later.

00:08:46.980 The date is September 16th.

00:08:48.460 This is when Turning Point USA employees are told that Erica is going to be replacing Charlie

00:08:55.080 as the CEO and chairman.

00:08:56.960 The public is going to be informed a day later on September 17th in a public letter signed

00:09:02.600 off by Doug DeGroote.

00:09:04.920 He's on the board.

00:09:06.680 And I should be clear that when Doug DeGroote going backward and looking at the announcement,

00:09:11.720 he makes it very biblical, very biblical, which is a common theme here.

00:09:17.480 Everything is about this is what God has ordained.

00:09:20.900 Here is the letter.

00:09:21.820 I'm just going to read the top here.

00:09:23.100 It reads in Ecclesiastes, King Solomon wrote that mankind is to be tested by God.

00:09:28.500 Today, we are facing such a test, yet we also know that God has prepared us with everything

00:09:33.860 that we need to overcome this ordeal.

00:09:36.460 It was the honor of our lives to serve as board members of Charlie's side.

00:09:40.020 Charlie prepared all of us for a moment like this one.

00:09:42.720 He worked tirelessly to ensure Turning Point USA was built to survive even the greatest

00:09:47.160 tests.

00:09:47.720 And now it is our great pride to announce Erica Kirk as the new CEO and chair of the board

00:09:52.820 for Turning Point USA.

00:09:54.260 Okay.

00:09:54.980 So I want you to remember that.

00:09:55.920 It's like going, I don't even remember that letter at all.

00:09:58.320 So that's why I'm showing it to you.

00:09:59.820 It's King Solomon and it's, you know, this is what God wants.

00:10:04.700 Okay.

00:10:04.900 Now, this decision, like I said, published on the 17th was actually voted upon earlier.

00:10:11.400 I know because Andrew Colvett told me before the public knew that the board had selected

00:10:14.900 Erica within about 72 hours of Charlie's death.

00:10:18.140 I was crying on the phone with him, already concerned by the obvious attempt from people

00:10:21.860 who hated Charlie previously, now committing themselves publicly to taking over his legacy,

00:10:27.540 filling in his boots, picking up his bloody mic.

00:10:29.680 And Andrew reassured me that the decision had already been made and that it was Erica that

00:10:35.780 was going to take over.

00:10:36.720 And in my aggrieved state, I said, okay, great.

00:10:39.700 Amazing.

00:10:40.100 Thank God.

00:10:40.520 I'm so happy to hear that.

00:10:41.400 So I'm so happy that none of these people who literally hated him are going to try to

00:10:49.960 sit in his chair.

00:10:51.600 Now, in hindsight, practically speaking, this means that within a space of about 72 hours,

00:10:56.220 someone approached Erica and thought that the right thing to ask or say was, hey, I know

00:11:05.000 you're going through a lot right now, but is it okay if we put your name up for the position

00:11:08.160 of CEO and can we put that to a board vote today?

00:11:13.000 Are you willing and able to take over as the chairman and the CEO in Charlie's stead?

00:11:18.740 To which Erica had to have replied, yes, she had to give her consent for that to go up

00:11:21.820 for a board vote.

00:11:23.540 Okay.

00:11:24.140 That's just a fact that had to take place.

00:11:25.940 How it happened, exactly when it was said, somebody felt that was appropriate to say

00:11:29.500 that.

00:11:29.820 Now, my first 72 hours was a little bit different.

00:11:32.540 On my end, when Mitchell, my PR agent, sent me a very kind message about the infinite press

00:11:40.260 requests that we had been receiving, people seeking a statement from me regarding how I

00:11:43.440 felt about Charlie's public assassination, I wanted to physically assault him.

00:11:47.740 He did nothing wrong.

00:11:48.460 He actually did his job with the utmost professionalism and care.

00:11:52.280 And still, I kind of wanted to kick Mitchell.

00:11:54.300 I'm sorry, Mitchell.

00:11:54.720 That's how I felt at that time, because everything just felt so intrusive.

00:11:58.500 Like, to even think about the world going on felt wrong.

00:12:03.520 I didn't think anything of her appointment at that time or beyond it other than what I

00:12:08.360 stated publicly, which was that Turning Point USA should have waited and instead appointed

00:12:13.080 an interim CEO to allow Erica the time that she needed to grieve rather than her having 0.98

00:12:18.900 to deal with everyone questioning her moves as a CEO.

00:12:22.680 But I also contended with myself, I will say.

00:12:25.440 I also thought, well, maybe they rushed the decision because it was symbolic and they felt

00:12:30.120 it was necessary, that it was sort of honorific, meaning she wasn't really going to do anything

00:12:34.560 at that time.

00:12:35.220 But they wanted to announce that this is the direction that it's going, which would be fair.

00:12:39.880 Like, just wanting the announcement to mean something.

00:12:43.640 And on her end, I thought maybe Erica said yes because she wanted to hold on to some sense

00:12:48.440 of continuity.

00:12:49.260 Like, this is still going to go on.

00:12:50.680 We're going to get everything going.

00:12:51.620 And that still could be true, by the way.

00:12:53.040 That could have been what drove her decision.

00:12:55.440 But of course, looking in retrospect, it is stunning to me that Erica chose not to bring

00:13:03.940 a single member of her actual family with her to Utah, something that I just sort of missed

00:13:09.760 at the time.

00:13:10.740 Just Turning Point family.

00:13:13.300 Think about that.

00:13:14.060 Charlie Kirk's mother, father, sister, they all raced to Utah to be with him at the hospital,

00:13:19.600 which is to be expected.

00:13:21.620 But Erica, no one in her immediate family joined her in her darkest hour.

00:13:26.480 Not her mom, okay?

00:13:27.600 We were told that she was sick.

00:13:29.220 Dad also lives in Scottsdale.

00:13:31.440 Sister, yes, she does have one. 0.96

00:13:33.300 Cousins, friends from high school.

00:13:35.820 After all, she grew up in Arizona, right?

00:13:37.780 That's where she went to school.

00:13:40.020 That's where she went to high school.

00:13:42.480 Instead, she was joined by Stacey Sheridan, who was playing the part of her mother.

00:13:47.980 Stacey, who is the head of fundraising for Turning Point USA.

00:13:53.520 Don't forget, it was Stacey Sheridan, who concerns herself with Turning Point raising 0.88

00:13:58.280 money, who filmed Charlie and the Casket.

00:14:01.660 It is Stacey Sheridan, who traveled with Erica.

00:14:03.620 She's the one who was holding Erica, holding her hand as Charlie's casket was coming off

00:14:11.760 of Air Force Two.

00:14:12.600 That was Stacey Sheridan standing next to her recording.

00:14:15.420 Not her mother, not her dad, not Erica's sister.

00:14:17.680 You just would think that somebody, that you would call somebody close to you that does

00:14:26.020 not exist in a corporate structure to be by your side.

00:14:28.160 That is my now totally rational perspective looking backward.

00:14:34.280 But it was Stacey Sheridan, who I have told her since day one, I personally warned Charlie

00:14:38.180 about her.

00:14:38.600 That is my personal opinion, that there is no rung into hell that Stacey Sheridan will not

00:14:44.560 descend upon for a dollar, that's my experience with her. 0.99

00:14:48.740 But this person was somehow crucial, crucial to coming and being beside Erica at all moments.

00:14:58.800 Car rides, everything.

00:14:59.800 If you go back and look, it is Stacey, you would think Stacey Sheridan was Erica's mother.

00:15:04.420 You can even check out this clip, which is her in a car. 0.76

00:15:09.280 Stacey, just everywhere.

00:15:10.360 On the phone, Stacey is there capturing every moment.

00:15:14.560 Me, I needed my sister to fly in to be by my side, husband, cousin. 0.98

00:15:20.820 Erica needed the head of gifts and donations. 0.76

00:15:22.840 I don't, I find that to be very strange.

00:15:27.260 And I've checked with people at the hospital.

00:15:29.580 No, no family was there.

00:15:31.420 Now let's get back to September 16th though, because I like to focus on that date.

00:15:36.860 Because with Stacey in earshot, Erica is going to address the company for the first time.

00:15:41.400 That's not a small task, by the way.

00:15:42.680 Okay, she is, as you will see, at the office.

00:15:45.140 She doesn't have full hair and makeup on, which of course, I think I welcome that as a good thing.

00:15:49.840 I don't expect her to be at the office, but I'm happy that she's not in full hair and makeup, because this is five and a half days after her husband was pronounced dead.

00:15:58.040 This is before we've had his funeral, anything.

00:16:00.720 And I'm going to tell you that the employees that chose to record this and the employees that are still there and upset with the manner in which people were fired are saying that they feel like they were, it was like a cult.

00:16:19.460 Like they knew something was off.

00:16:22.260 They felt like they were being manipulated, that they were only given Erica as this symbol of you guys need to work harder, right?

00:16:32.660 As though Charlie's wife was being used to convince employees that it is now a mandate handed to them by God to work harder, to sacrifice themselves, to work longer days, because this is their new family.

00:16:44.660 Like this word, I've always been struck by this, describing the employees like a family, to drive them to work like horses, only to then fire them after a quarter billion is raised, is wild, okay?

00:16:58.140 Like I said, at least she is not dressed in hair and makeup.

00:17:02.100 She is at the office.

00:17:03.340 I would say the bad news is that once again, Erica is going to stop herself from using the word happy in the context of Charlie and how he must be feeling in heaven.

00:17:13.300 I'm going to let this play out for five minutes straight, and there is no context needed other than this is five and a half days after her husband was publicly assassinated.

00:17:21.940 And yes, in the background, that is Terrell Farnsworth, the guy who took down the cameras.

00:17:26.880 But we're going to see, we are going to see some grief.

00:17:30.860 So I'm going to allow you guys to watch this for five minutes.

00:17:34.320 I had private conversations with him.

00:17:36.660 I want you all to hold on to those.

00:17:40.020 And I want you all to remember those so deeply.

00:17:42.140 I want you to journal about them.

00:17:44.100 I want you to be able to tell your kids about them.

00:17:47.140 I want you to put those in your heart as why you're still here with the Turning Point USA again, because that's what we want.

00:17:55.700 And like I said to our small group, after whatever day that was that I did the thing on TV, my days are so long on Friday.

00:18:03.540 I told the team, I said, Turning Point USA will continue like my husband always wanted, and it will be bigger than ever.

00:18:14.360 And we're going to honor him by doing that.

00:18:16.400 We're going to stay humble.

00:18:17.300 We're going to work hard because that's what he would want.

00:18:22.460 And we're going to just make it grow.

00:18:25.540 And we're going to keep our eyes fixed on heaven.

00:18:28.120 And, you know, like even Stacey said, he's going to find ways to speak to us.

00:18:36.120 And he's going to speak to you in different ways.

00:18:38.460 Every person is going to be different.

00:18:39.760 But you'll get little moments where you're like, OK, Charlie, I see you.

00:18:42.420 It might be here on campus.

00:18:44.540 It might be in quiet moments of the night.

00:18:46.720 But he's here, and he's more alive than ever, and he's going to guide us.

00:18:55.160 And we just have to remain humble.

00:18:57.480 But again, what I told the team was, I will fight like hell to make sure that all of you have a job here.

00:19:07.720 I don't want anyone to think that job's in jeopardy.

00:19:10.800 Because your family, if you want to, if you choose to leave, that's different.

00:19:18.020 I never will, and I promise you, I will make sure that I never allow a point to where you have to leave because we cannot financially afford you.

00:19:28.200 And that is a promise.

00:19:32.100 I want our family to stay together.

00:19:34.720 The best of care.

00:19:35.800 Obviously, circumstances, you know, things, I'm seeing things that might pop up here and there that we can't foresee in the future.

00:19:43.840 But for right now, the way things are, I live by journey.

00:19:46.180 They are status quo, and I think that's the best thing to do.

00:19:49.120 And everything else we can worry about later.

00:19:51.380 But I just want to let you know that you guys are all very loved.

00:19:53.660 I'm very proud of you.

00:19:54.500 And Charlie would be, I mean, I think Charlie's just,

00:19:59.560 I'm trying not to say that he would be, he's obviously celebrating in heaven amongst many things.

00:20:09.620 But he's so proud of all of you.

00:20:12.060 And he's so proud of all of you for keeping this mission alive.

00:20:15.500 And he knows that you can do it.

00:20:18.940 That's why you're hired.

00:20:20.680 He knows that you will be able to carry the torch.

00:20:23.900 And he knows that you're going to do a great job.

00:20:27.300 And you're going to be able to, even though things are going to be tough,

00:20:30.940 honestly, the nights are the hardest.

00:20:33.100 Mornings are pretty raw, too.

00:20:35.300 But once you're, just what I've noticed these past several days is if I didn't have the family,

00:20:41.440 the Turning Point USA family with me, all of you, I would be a disaster.

00:20:46.160 I mean, I would be in fetal position 24-7.

00:20:48.420 But the fact that we have a continued mission to look forward to, and we have our family,

00:20:54.700 it's everything.

00:20:56.020 And some of you, this is your chosen family.

00:20:58.900 And just rely and lean on each other.

00:21:02.200 That's huge.

00:21:03.060 Leaning on each other is huge.

00:21:04.380 Because all of you were together prior to this, and we'll be together after this.

00:21:10.180 And it's, and we, everything, and I told Justin, it's going to be something where everything

00:21:14.380 before September 10th.

00:21:15.420 Any email you were working on, any project you were working on, is, it's not that it's

00:21:20.500 irrelevant now.

00:21:21.700 It's just, things have changed, obviously.

00:21:25.200 And the mission has gotten deeper.

00:21:27.180 And the mission will grow deeper.

00:21:28.980 But like, I just want all of you to know, we will be wise stewards.

00:21:33.760 We will be vigilant.

00:21:36.660 We will be humble.

00:21:37.620 And I just want you to know that, again, I'm with you.

00:21:43.600 I'm here.

00:21:44.860 I'm not going anywhere.

00:21:46.600 And we're going to make sure that we honor my husband so well.

00:21:51.380 That this whole world knows what his, his vision was and will be.

00:21:57.520 And it's just, I feel so blessed and honored.

00:22:09.500 Blessed and honored.

00:22:11.840 That is crazy work as adjectives.

00:22:14.000 I, I, I, I, I don't know.

00:22:16.060 That's, that's crazy work.

00:22:17.320 That is like, I couldn't, blessed and honored to be the CEO and to be telling you guys that

00:22:25.580 you're a family and I want you to see this because we've spoken about this, the Mooney's

00:22:29.040 cult and these people that are leaving are like, it's, it was just like a cult.

00:22:33.080 Like basically she's saying this, she's calling you a family.

00:22:35.660 She promises them.

00:22:37.220 That's why it's important to, you have to hold this to the fire.

00:22:39.360 You're not the CEO.

00:22:40.320 You promise these kids that if you, they are going to work harder, you're in this family.

00:22:45.800 Your jobs are safe.

00:22:47.080 Actually, that's what makes her cry.

00:22:49.700 Saying your jobs are, you know, that's, that's when she breaks, right?

00:22:53.160 When she says, I just, it's so important for that.

00:22:55.120 You know, your jobs are good.

00:22:57.420 Like I feel, I feel emotionally attached to you guys working for me.

00:23:03.200 And then you attach that to what we showed you of a young woman who, like I said, on

00:23:09.340 everything, never, I'd never leak, leak, she never leaked anything.

00:23:12.840 She never spoke to me.

00:23:13.660 Nothing gets fired.

00:23:15.180 And for asking a simple question, like literally, why am I fired?

00:23:18.360 We've been working like 25 hours.

00:23:20.460 Just get out, get out, get out. 0.51

00:23:22.580 There's, there's security there.

00:23:24.020 That's it.

00:23:24.420 We're moving in a different direction.

00:23:25.860 That is not okay.

00:23:27.260 Okay.

00:23:27.400 You're not allowed to say everybody grieves differently.

00:23:29.280 So I don't have to answer any questions about that.

00:23:31.600 And guys, we're going to bring in the beginning too, because I want you to watch the beginning

00:23:34.220 of this so you can see the full thing because we don't need to strip anything.

00:23:37.740 Because she starts by laughing, which I find to be interesting.

00:23:41.100 But I do want to let you know that we are having some buffering issues.

00:23:44.500 We still have major blackouts in Nashville.

00:23:46.680 So we're doing our best here.

00:23:48.640 If you have some connectivity issues, just know that that's the reason why.

00:23:51.000 Here's the beginning of that call.

00:23:53.100 Yep.

00:23:53.500 There you go.

00:23:54.300 Oh, look at all the thumbs up.

00:23:56.100 Look how cute that is.

00:23:57.720 Sorry.

00:23:58.120 This is a little bit more informal than probably Charlie would be reacting.

00:24:00.840 How sweet.

00:24:01.640 I didn't know they could do that.

00:24:04.620 I hate Zoom.

00:24:05.640 I never liked Zoom.

00:24:06.560 Sorry, you guys.

00:24:07.900 I just wanted to say, first and foremost, my heart obviously is broken for you guys as

00:24:13.520 much as it is for our family.

00:24:15.060 You guys lost not only a boss, but someone that you looked up to, someone that you believed

00:24:23.200 in his mission that you also loved.

00:24:28.400 You loved listening to his show.

00:24:31.520 You loved hearing his wisdom on things.

00:24:34.800 I'm sure some of you have also had very personal moments of where you sat down and...

00:24:39.400 So that's the beginning, just so you have that in its full context.

00:24:44.840 Now, like I said, this is something.

00:24:48.720 It's definitely something.

00:24:49.740 It feels to me a bit like a psychological phenomenon known as trauma bonding, right?

00:24:54.140 They had just suffered a very real trauma.

00:24:56.160 That's not a trauma that most people go through in their entire lives.

00:25:00.240 You're signed up for a company.

00:25:03.340 Charlie Kirk is the leader of that company.

00:25:05.360 You sign up, the majority of these people, to work for this organization because they

00:25:08.520 believe in Charlie Kirk.

00:25:09.700 They believe in what he is doing on college campuses.

00:25:11.900 And then you watch him get live assassinated.

00:25:15.080 And now management is going to try to establish your loyalty using all sorts of tactics.

00:25:21.800 But essentially what they're creating here is an emotional dependence, right?

00:25:24.520 We are a family.

00:25:25.260 We have lived through this.

00:25:26.340 This is a family, family, family.

00:25:28.160 And that very well may not have been Erica's intent.

00:25:33.920 But hearing her sound like she's about to cry when she discusses specifically them keeping

00:25:37.200 their jobs, not Charlie, but having Charlie haven't been assassinated in front of the world,

00:25:41.720 but the prospect of their employment, we do not have to imagine if she meant that sincerely

00:25:47.060 because she didn't.

00:25:47.840 She did not mean that sincerely.

00:25:49.160 After working them all like horses, wrapping them in this way, she's going to fire a boatload 1.00

00:25:52.520 of them without cause or even conversation.

00:25:55.200 That's actually traumatic.

00:25:56.760 See it from the employee's viewpoint.

00:25:58.360 For those of you wondering, they just must feel like they just got punched in the face.

00:26:03.920 You had to watch him die.

00:26:05.060 Then you get brought in on this emotional, we're a family, we're a family, never, I never would

00:26:10.400 do this.

00:26:10.940 And it's like, get out.

00:26:11.960 Don't let the door hit you on the way back.

00:26:13.260 Yeah, we raised a quarter bill.

00:26:14.240 You're not even going to get a bonus.

00:26:17.000 Now we're going to keep letting this play out because you are going to hear her actually

00:26:21.780 be the first person to say an expression that has been used a lot.

00:26:27.080 She's going to remind people that everybody grieves differently.

00:26:31.200 Five and a half days after Charlie was announced dead at the hospital.

00:26:36.200 Take a listen.

00:26:37.460 And we will do our best to continue to make Turning Point USA the behemoth that he wanted

00:26:44.040 it to be this massive thing.

00:26:46.280 And it is, it is.

00:26:47.180 And that's why we have to stay humble.

00:26:48.260 But, you know, I just want you guys to stay in prayer.

00:26:51.880 And if you guys do need anything, please reach out to whoever you know to reach out to.

00:26:56.900 And pray with one another.

00:26:58.580 Be there with one another.

00:26:59.480 Be soft with one another.

00:27:01.080 Everyone grieves differently.

00:27:02.180 So if someone's acting weird, don't read into that.

00:27:06.740 Weddings and furials bring out the weirdest side of me.

00:27:10.180 Anyone who's been married knows that.

00:27:12.920 So don't read into that.

00:27:14.540 Just love on each other.

00:27:15.620 And if there's anything or anyone who tries to divide your team or you, or that's just

00:27:22.640 the enemy, and just rebuke it and know that there's a bigger mission at hand.

00:27:27.280 And again, you guys are all very loved.

00:27:30.360 And I feel very honored.

00:27:31.660 And I'm grateful for all of you.

00:27:34.160 So I just wanted to take some time to hop on and share with you my tendances.

00:27:40.120 I wish I could help all of you.

00:27:41.700 But again, the fact that there's a lot of them in the office only today, the fact that

00:27:46.280 a lot of you guys are here in office, that's what he would do with the mission.

00:27:50.500 He doesn't want you to just be sitting on the couch alone in your room.

00:27:53.940 He wants you to, obviously, I mean, we will all mourn, but he would want you to build.

00:27:59.160 And so that's what we'll do.

00:28:00.420 We'll have a sword in one hand.

00:28:01.900 We'll have a healing hand.

00:28:02.940 Okay, I love you all.

00:28:09.320 Deep breaths.

00:28:10.580 Lucia, I just wanted to share this with you all.

00:28:13.680 I asked her when we were on the tarmac.

00:28:16.940 I said, I don't know how to get through this.

00:28:22.500 And she said, you know, when you're on an airplane, and some of you have kids who really

00:28:29.340 relate to this.

00:28:30.280 Others that don't, you've been on a plane with kids, so you can also relate to this.

00:28:33.840 But she said, when you're on an airplane, and you're 15 minutes before landing, and the

00:28:41.080 kids are going crazy, and you have 15 minutes left on the plane, and they're throwing their

00:28:45.760 toys, and they're screaming, and you're thinking to yourself, am I going to make it through

00:28:49.720 these next 15 minutes, and then the plane lands, and Lucia said, you're going to make

00:28:55.040 it through those next 15 minutes.

00:28:56.940 And then that was 15 minutes.

00:29:00.600 And so I just want to share that with you, because it was a very private moment, but it

00:29:06.320 gave me some peace to know that we can just do this for 10 minutes at a time.

00:29:12.180 So if that means at work, when you're feeling a little bit, stop, take those 15 minutes, and

00:29:18.300 you'll be okay.

00:29:18.880 And we're all going to be okay.

00:29:20.820 I love you guys.

00:29:24.020 Have a great meeting.

00:29:26.060 Is there anything else?

00:29:27.120 Do you need to be okay?

00:29:28.320 It's good.

00:29:28.760 You guys are loved.

00:29:30.080 Love this little film.

00:29:31.000 All the words.

00:29:31.880 Thank you.

00:29:33.380 So sweet.

00:29:34.520 God bless you all.

00:29:35.640 Thank you, guys.

00:29:38.480 I mean, I don't really know what to say.

00:29:39.660 I just, I wanted to share that with you.

00:29:40.960 I wanted to share that with you because I fully side with the employees, what they have lived

00:29:47.240 through, everything that's happened, to have them admit that they worked 20-hour days, to

00:29:51.680 see how they were manipulated into doing that, and then having the carpet pulled under their

00:29:55.160 feet and told goodbye.

00:29:57.920 And God forbid you want to speak out about what you've lived through.

00:30:01.400 Then you're somehow like, it's a cult.

00:30:03.640 That's a cult, to be clear.

00:30:05.420 That's just a cult.

00:30:06.680 You're with us or you're against us.

00:30:08.140 And these people were not against them.

00:30:10.340 They were loyal employees.

00:30:12.740 Okay?

00:30:12.960 They were loyal employees, and they said that they felt like they were being emotionally

00:30:17.640 manipulated, to think that they had to just work harder.

00:30:19.460 Even beyond the 20-hour days they were working during the weekday, they were then asked to

00:30:23.820 come in on the weekend to pack t-shirts because it's what Charlie would want.

00:30:29.700 And I kept picking up on that beyond these calls.

00:30:32.220 I kept saying, why does it feel like they're using the ghost of Charlie to sort of guilt

00:30:37.080 people into doing things?

00:30:38.820 Like, well, this is what Charlie would want.

00:30:40.080 He'd want your money.

00:30:40.800 This is what Charlie would want.

00:30:41.700 He would want your kid's college fund.

00:30:43.620 This is what Charlie would want.

00:30:44.820 He wants grandma's will.

00:30:46.280 This is what Charlie's dancing.

00:30:47.800 He's dancing in heaven.

00:30:49.400 He is, I'm not, I don't want to say the word happy.

00:30:52.660 Maybe he's not happy.

00:30:53.760 He just got assassinated.

00:30:54.620 Maybe he's not happy that he's never going to see his children again or put into bed.

00:30:59.360 But he is dancing unhappily or something.

00:31:05.300 What?

00:31:06.340 What?

00:31:07.760 Okay?

00:31:08.120 Like, I don't know what this is.

00:31:10.220 I, like I said, fully side with the employees.

00:31:14.180 I do believe with all of the new information that I'm getting, and it is a lot, that she

00:31:20.220 has been orchestrating this entire PR campaign from the back and pretending that Andrew Colvett

00:31:24.160 was problematic.

00:31:25.400 Maybe some credit to Andrew Colvett for being enough of a gentleman to absorb all that,

00:31:30.080 to allow people to think that it was just him acting rogue when it wasn't.

00:31:33.320 It factually was not.

00:31:34.660 We were lied to.

00:31:35.540 Um, I, and I don't know what the purpose is of that lie.

00:31:38.920 That's what troubles me.

00:31:39.760 What is the purpose of that lie?

00:31:41.660 And by the way, just going back to that end of, uh, uh, the timeline that we have put

00:31:47.100 together, it's actually stunning to consider that when they opted to have the three-way

00:31:52.640 call with the doctor, okay, when they hurried, hurried and called the surgeon because I did

00:31:59.180 an episode and I was like, hey, something's really weird that you guys should know is

00:32:02.180 that, you know, the bullet didn't go through.

00:32:03.800 There was no blood in the back of Charlie.

00:32:05.040 And then Erica and Andrew got on the phone with the surgeon.

00:32:10.400 That was on the day of Charlie's actual funeral mass.

00:32:13.080 Like, that was a priority for them to have something to issue as a statement onto X to

00:32:19.520 try to explain away why a 30-06 didn't go through.

00:32:23.060 Like, that doesn't seem like the proper day for that, but that's when it happened.

00:32:26.480 That's when it factually, that phone call took place.

00:32:28.700 We know because Andrew said, just got off the phone with the surgeon.

00:32:31.880 So we don't have to imagine when that was.

00:32:34.120 The day after my episode when people were going, what do you mean there's no blood in the

00:32:37.040 back?

00:32:37.200 What do you mean the 30-06?

00:32:39.440 Why lie about that?

00:32:40.460 Why are we being lied to and we're supposed to accept that they have enough money?

00:32:44.860 Well, they do.

00:32:45.780 To hire crisis PR people and a bunch of accounts on X to tell us that it's ungodly for us to

00:32:52.260 not just sit there and be lied to.

00:32:54.600 That God's mandate means you can't question this.

00:32:57.320 You can't question why kids are being treated like this.

00:32:59.280 This is Charlie's vision.

00:33:00.460 He's dancing in heaven watching how kids that, a bunch of students that slaved for him, 20-hour

00:33:07.240 days to put together the memorial events, are being let go for no reason other than loyalty

00:33:15.700 tests that are being conducted by Marina, the COO, who's talking to Uber drivers for the

00:33:21.280 tea.

00:33:21.540 Hey, have you heard anything about Turning Point USA?

00:33:23.000 Well, I heard that this Uber driver said that you may have said something.

00:33:26.040 Bring her into the room. 0.96

00:33:27.300 She may have critiqued Erica. 1.00

00:33:28.560 Not allowed.

00:33:29.720 What is this, guys?

00:33:31.820 It's severe manipulation, and it's not okay.

00:33:34.800 It's not okay at all.

00:33:36.140 And what is guiding that, though?

00:33:37.780 What is guiding the lies?

00:33:42.080 That's what I'm interested in.

00:33:43.800 I don't like when people lie to my face.

00:33:45.180 I really don't like when people lie to my face.

00:33:46.080 And then I don't like when they send me cease and desist because I told the truth.

00:33:49.580 I would say that's like a personal trigger of mine.

00:33:53.080 Anyway, we're going to take a brief break and get into some more people grieving differently

00:33:58.600 in the form of former CEOs.

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00:37:03.760 I would say that we exist in a time right now where we recognize that we live in a matrix.

00:37:10.680 Like we actually live in a matrix and that matrix is fully glitching.

00:37:15.100 We don't know where this is going to end.

00:37:18.460 It's sort of like we know they're lying.

00:37:21.080 They're caught lying.

00:37:22.120 They know that they've lost power, but they're still going to create this illusion that they haven't.

00:37:25.760 They're going to keep writing articles.

00:37:27.140 They're going to keep smearing people that are telling the truth, even though it's ineffectual.

00:37:30.740 Like, no, we actually don't care anymore what they're writing, but they're going to keep doing it.

00:37:34.600 They're going to tell us who we have to like.

00:37:36.560 They're going to keep pretending that these people are popular and these people are awful.

00:37:43.000 When does it stop? 0.98

00:37:44.480 Everything feels fake and gay and fictitious. 1.00

00:37:48.120 And we're learning that people who pretended like they cared about free speech are the number one people that are trying to squash it.

00:37:56.400 They're trying to squash it now.

00:37:57.380 And there's no greater example of that than, of course, Daily Wire.

00:37:59.720 Now, the Daily Wire CEO, one day, Daily Wire is a company in a fair world, probably not one day.

00:38:07.420 And so, therefore, probably not in this world.

00:38:09.480 But if we lived in a fair world, it would be taught in psychology courses.

00:38:12.920 Like, watching what this company did to itself in the span of one year is incredible.

00:38:18.420 It's objectively, as an interest piece, incredible.

00:38:22.340 Like, if I'm just a journalist going, this is fascinating, right?

00:38:24.580 Jeremy Boring was the CEO when all that happened, and he kind of went away for, I would say, a year.

00:38:30.760 And now he's back.

00:38:31.580 He would never not be back, guys.

00:38:33.260 This man loves the spotlight like you wouldn't believe.

00:38:35.120 We're going to talk about that in a second.

00:38:36.660 But he goes on to a podcast and decides to open up about me, of course, and what I did wrong, saying, essentially, things were fine until they weren't fine.

00:38:49.760 And I'm just going to let you hear him in context, what I've done here and what he has to say about me.

00:38:54.400 Take a listen.

00:38:55.600 When Candace worked for you, do you sometimes look back at the decision and think, that wasn't a good one when she was working at The Wire?

00:39:03.820 Yeah, well, I certainly think that hiring Candace is probably the biggest mistake of my professional life so far.

00:39:10.820 At the time, I had misgivings about Candace, but it wasn't a completely cynical decision.

00:39:18.500 I believed that Candace could be a great force for good in the world.

00:39:23.300 I still believe that.

00:39:24.500 Candace is the most talented person I've ever met, not just in conservative media, but in any media.

00:39:29.600 She has it.

00:39:30.540 She has that star quality. 0.99

00:39:32.080 You know it the moment that you meet her.

00:39:34.220 Unbelievable charm, unbelievable charisma.

00:39:36.700 The camera absolutely loves her.

00:39:38.540 She has incredibly unique gifts and skills in that area.

00:39:43.760 And when she wields those gifts and skills for good, she's incredibly effective. 0.95

00:39:47.620 She was during the BLM movement in America.

00:39:50.500 Some of the content that we made when we first brought Candace on was focused on that topic.

00:39:54.780 And I think she was as good as anybody in the world and made a really positive impact.

00:40:00.400 I've said before, Candace is like nuclear energy. 1.00

00:40:02.800 You know, if you harness it properly, she can power a city. 1.00

00:40:05.600 If you lose control, she'll flatten the city. 0.96

00:40:08.560 And I think that's what we're seeing now.

00:40:10.260 Candace, all those same gifts that she has at various times used for good, she's now using for ill.

00:40:17.360 And there's no one better.

00:40:19.060 The problem is, if what you're pursuing is bad and you're the best at it, you're going to do an incredible amount of damage.

00:40:25.320 And Candace is doing an incredible amount of damage. 1.00

00:40:27.000 So what's amazing about that is he's not even aware of how objectively racist what he just said was.

00:40:35.960 We brought Candace on because she was critiquing Black people. 1.00

00:40:40.320 We brought her on because it was nice to have a Black person that was willing to call out Black Lives Matter. 0.96

00:40:46.720 And that's largely why we brought her on.

00:40:48.300 That's why we did.

00:40:48.920 And she was doing great.

00:40:49.680 We did the documentary.

00:40:50.340 She talked about how Black Lives Matter had grown into really what it was, was a Black supremacy movement where they were no longer fighting for equality.

00:40:56.140 Actually, what they wanted was special treatment.

00:40:57.940 I believe that.

00:40:58.440 I stand by that.

00:40:59.040 I have not shifted my viewpoints on BLM and the fact that it was going to ultimately backfire on Black America like it did burn down Black American cities. 0.56

00:41:07.200 But then, then that, oh my gosh, when she then noticed that Israel was actually flattening cities. 0.81

00:41:15.960 Really bad analogy there, Jeremy.

00:41:17.220 When she noticed that actually the Jewish community was acting like the supremacists suddenly and noticed that they were acting exceptionally, they wanted to be treated exceptionally, and they were coming after speech, that's when I realized that this energy, this energy couldn't be harnessed.

00:41:34.340 That's when we realized we had a problem.

00:41:35.900 Oh, it could do great damage.

00:41:36.840 It could flatten a city like Bibi Netanyahu did to Gaza. 0.98

00:41:39.500 That's when, man, she was a talent when I could teach her to go after Black people. 1.00

00:41:45.200 But then when she sort of noticed that Jewish people were not behaving correctly and were making demands in a similar fashion and coming after people's lives and livelihood, that's when, well, we had to draw the line. 1.00

00:41:57.840 Nuclear energy.

00:41:58.760 It's very bad.

00:41:59.640 It's amazing. 0.63

00:42:00.700 And then he's going to correlate my show to pornography.

00:42:05.940 Take a listen.

00:42:07.440 You say people tell you that they listen to Candace.

00:42:09.360 I had a guy tell me recently, he said, you know, what should I say to my wife?

00:42:13.320 You know, she keeps telling me about things that she hears Candace say, and I don't even know how to respond to them.

00:42:19.160 I said, well, I would just respond by telling her fun things that you saw in some porno video that you watched.

00:42:24.720 He said, whoa, what are you talking about?

00:42:26.440 I said, well, the same level of shame should accompany both statements.

00:42:29.780 Like, one should be ashamed to say publicly that they're watching Candace Owens now.

00:42:34.380 And Candace Owens, who is at war with the widow of her purported best friend, Charlie Kirk, this is so far beyond the pale.

00:42:46.420 You know, the fact that people can say with a straight face, oh, what do you make of what Candace said?

00:42:51.300 What I make of it is that it is a kind of pornography.

00:42:54.760 It is rhetorical pornography.

00:42:58.060 It does the same thing that regular pornography does.

00:43:00.680 It titillates, it stimulates, it's slightly naughty.

00:43:04.880 It's great for getting clicks, and it makes tons of money on the Internet.

00:43:09.060 And you shouldn't be able to look at it if you're under 18.

00:43:14.940 Now, I remind you that one of the reasons I got fired is I said we should look into the history of pornography.

00:43:18.100 Don't ask him that question.

00:43:19.380 Don't ask him about real pornography and where it comes from.

00:43:23.300 Don't do that.

00:43:24.860 Don't you dare, because then you would be the kind of nuclear energy that we can't harness correctly.

00:43:30.720 When you talk about pornography, you should talk about real pornography.

00:43:33.440 You should talk about podcasts.

00:43:34.420 People are getting educated in recognizing that there are double standards and that you cannot use emotional arguments like BLM did.

00:43:40.400 And like we are seeing Israel do today to go, you can't talk about the facts.

00:43:44.980 George Floyd died, and we can't talk about any more facts.

00:43:47.280 And this is crazy, and we're all sad, and we can't even discuss things rationally.

00:43:51.600 Same thing, Israel, post-October 7th.

00:43:54.740 He is arguing like a leftist.

00:43:57.980 But the moment where you really recognize that—I had hoped that he checked into treatment, to be honest with you.

00:44:04.680 But he has zero self-awareness, is when Jeremy accuses me of being self-aggrandizing.

00:44:11.880 Take a listen to what he had to say.

00:44:13.780 Candace Owens is engaged in a—as I see it—Candace is engaged in a project of self-aggrandizement. 1.00

00:44:22.540 I've asked Candace on two separate occasions, what do you actually believe?

00:44:27.760 And on both occasions, she told me, I believe what the people believe.

00:44:31.860 I am the voice of the people.

00:44:35.000 Never mind that that's a completely amoral statement.

00:44:37.840 Never mind that I don't know who the people are in this conversation.

00:44:42.060 Never mind that the people, whoever they are, can obviously be wrong.

00:44:45.520 Candace is actually saying something somewhat profound.

00:44:48.120 She's saying, I will say whatever gets the most reward.

00:44:52.720 She may not even know that that's what she's saying.

00:44:54.740 But she's essentially—she's articulating audience capture as a virtue. 0.98

00:45:01.020 This is incredible for so many reasons.

00:45:03.000 So the first and foremost, that is obviously made up.

00:45:05.220 It's such an obviously made up conversation.

00:45:07.340 Who just comes in and goes, what do you believe?

00:45:10.000 Zero context.

00:45:11.040 And then someone just replies and says, I believe whatever the people believe.

00:45:14.940 Zero context.

00:45:15.980 Believe regarding what?

00:45:17.140 Are we talking about faith?

00:45:18.460 What are we talking about?

00:45:19.100 The transgender movement? 0.85

00:45:19.820 We don't just ask someone.

00:45:20.860 I asked her three times.

00:45:21.780 She said, I believe whatever the people believe because I just want cliques, which is why she

00:45:25.820 took this path of going up against Black Lives Matter as a black person and putting on a 0.83

00:45:29.780 Trump hat because the easy route—that was obviously the easy route to get cliques back in 2016. 0.99

00:45:35.820 It's completely ridiculous. 0.79

00:45:37.400 But to pretend that I am into myself—you know, I have to just shout this out because there are 0.69

00:45:43.160 Daily Wire employees.

00:45:44.100 You don't understand what we lived through, you guys.

00:45:45.980 And they need to hear this.

00:45:47.440 And they're just somewhere.

00:45:48.400 They're passing away, listening to Jeremy Boring talk about somebody who likes attention.

00:45:53.020 Jeremy Boring is the CEO who woke up every day.

00:45:56.380 Like, I'm his biggest regret.

00:45:58.140 So many more regrets that I could toss out of him.

00:46:00.320 I'm going to try a few.

00:46:01.000 Like, getting up every day, going into the office, and getting your hair and your makeup

00:46:05.720 done to play the role of a CEO.

00:46:08.240 Making talent, people who had shows, wait outside while you closed the room, had people

00:46:13.080 wash your hair, do your makeup, and style you.

00:46:16.500 Hundreds of thousands of dollars on a clothing rack so you could go sit in the office and take

00:46:21.500 phone calls like a CEO.

00:46:23.080 That probably actually was the honest Jeremy.

00:46:25.700 He's always been an aspiring actor.

00:46:27.560 That's who he wants to be.

00:46:29.400 He wants to be on a stage.

00:46:30.380 And he literally builds stages every time he speaks at the Daily Wire.

00:46:34.600 Jeremy Boring is a person that is so obsessed with himself and thinks about nobody else that

00:46:39.240 he put the company into debt.

00:46:41.000 What happened?

00:46:41.560 What's the true story?

00:46:42.180 What happened to the Daily Wire?

00:46:43.880 Jeremy Boring was wanting to live out his boyhood theater kid dreams, right?

00:46:50.680 He flew out virtually the entire company to Hungary to bring a book that he read in middle

00:46:59.260 school to life on a budget that would make HBO blush, paying to transport bulls across the

00:47:06.980 continent of Europe, and the process obviously plummeting a once financially healthy company

00:47:12.380 into the ground.

00:47:13.420 I am told last number I heard was $67 million spent on a high school dream.

00:47:19.360 So much money that he had to borrow, empty a savings account, borrow money personally from

00:47:23.840 Ben Shapiro to make ends meet because he couldn't let go of his high school dream.

00:47:29.340 That's not ranking as his number one regret because that's the true story of what happened

00:47:33.180 to the Daily Wire.

00:47:33.840 Everything else is noise.

00:47:35.560 Actually, the Bulwark podcast, which is no friend of mine, they hate me, they were pretty

00:47:41.040 frank.

00:47:41.560 If you go back and listen and honest about what happened at the Daily Wire, they spent

00:47:47.000 some time investigating it.

00:47:48.300 Take a listen.

00:47:49.760 Because of the Daily Wire's enormous revenues, they were in their streaming ambitions.

00:47:54.620 Jeremy Boring was able to become, not just like to finance this, but he is the director

00:47:59.320 and the creator of it, this like incredibly ambitious operation.

00:48:05.060 And so like they made these production diaries.

00:48:07.360 And so I watched these videos on YouTube of them filming it.

00:48:10.100 And you look at it and it's like, are they capable of doing this?

00:48:13.720 I mean, we're talking about like a hundred extras, like fist fighting in a marsh in

00:48:18.200 Hungary, like the mist is coming in, all like enormous crews. 0.99

00:48:21.920 Then they're like, well, we're flying off to Italy.

00:48:23.720 And this was on the Daily Wire's dime they were doing this?

00:48:26.240 Yes.

00:48:26.340 Yeah.

00:48:26.720 Oh my God.

00:48:27.760 It's, oh, yeah, we're flying to Italy to film with bulls, but they were imported from

00:48:31.480 Spain.

00:48:31.940 So it's all good.

00:48:32.700 Like it's, it's authentic.

00:48:33.820 And you're just like, like ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching.

00:48:37.540 And it still hasn't come out.

00:48:38.740 Well, that might explain some of this departure agreement where you're spending millions on

00:48:45.740 a bizarre project set in Roman era Britain, but filmed in Hungary involving Italian bulls

00:48:53.220 meant to be from Spain.

00:48:56.000 That's actually, that's actually what happened.

00:48:58.360 And it caused Jeremy Boring to have a mental, a mental break.

00:49:02.140 And we all just had to be subjected to it as people that are working up at Daily Wire.

00:49:06.040 And you would think that after taking a hiatus, she would come back and realizing this failed. 0.57

00:49:10.280 Nobody wanted to buy it.

00:49:11.220 Nobody wanted anything to do with it because like always, he casts himself in every role.

00:49:15.100 Jeremy Boring's razors.

00:49:16.380 Jeremy Boring's hair products.

00:49:17.500 Jeremy Boring's high school project.

00:49:20.300 Jeremy Boring.

00:49:21.100 Jeremy Boring.

00:49:21.720 All the time.

00:49:22.340 Build a stage because I want to fire Candace. 1.00

00:49:24.500 You would think.

00:49:25.500 But after taking a year to reflect, he would come back and say, that's my biggest mistake.

00:49:30.980 That I put me at the center of everything and I took a financially healthy company and I crushed it.

00:49:36.720 And you know what else was a mistake?

00:49:37.800 If I'm Jeremy Boring, I would say it was a mistake not to just end things amicably with Candace.

00:49:42.680 Especially when she gave me the option after Ben jumped up on a table and accused her of being a faux

00:49:50.040 sophisticate because she said, genocide is always wrong.

00:49:53.860 Yeah.

00:49:54.760 When she came to me eight and a half months pregnant, hands open and willing to discuss and fix things 0.91

00:49:59.380 or agree to amicably go our separate ways if we couldn't post-October 7th, he decided not to do that.

00:50:08.600 Jeremy decided to instead maniacally convey to me that they suspected that I might have been

00:50:15.260 secretly working with Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson, like we're the three musketeers or something.

00:50:20.040 Rather than simply humbling himself, admitting that he was completely deluded and wrong and

00:50:25.440 that I was, in fact, always loyal to the company that I worked for, he hatched up his next great

00:50:29.840 plan.

00:50:30.640 Oh, I know.

00:50:31.380 I'll fix two birds with one stone.

00:50:33.200 Okay.

00:50:33.480 I sank the company into debt, but I can fix it.

00:50:36.940 My next big plan is to do what we did to Breitbart.

00:50:40.040 We'll create a fake scandal.

00:50:41.320 We'll accuse Candace, who's actually hardworking, super pregnant. 1.00

00:50:46.000 But we'll accuse her of being anti-Semitic and gloriously fire her over having said Christ 0.75

00:50:51.700 is king.

00:50:52.220 We'll do this during Lent because surely that will lead to more Daily Wire signups.

00:50:56.020 It worked for us once at Breitbart.

00:50:57.420 You think we can do it again?

00:50:58.320 The world will see it our way, right?

00:51:00.780 The world will see it our way.

00:51:01.680 They'll realize that we had to do the tough with the moral thing.

00:51:04.120 Well, it's a psyop.

00:51:05.560 We just need the money. 0.99

00:51:06.240 But they'll realize that we took a moral stance for Jews because what kind of monster tweets 0.88

00:51:12.600 genocide is always wrong.

00:51:15.180 True story.

00:51:16.060 Jeremy actually personally reviewed Andrew Klavan's episode before it went out.

00:51:20.440 The first attack after we amicably departed.

00:51:24.160 Jeremy proved it.

00:51:24.860 He's so genius and so sure of himself.

00:51:27.640 Management truly believed that they were going to get a bunch of signups of the Daily Wire

00:51:32.340 in mass.

00:51:32.920 The whole world was going to support them and their debt issues would be wiped away.

00:51:37.780 It's now been two years and you would think, Jeremy, I would think that you might have

00:51:42.240 the courage to admit that it was simply a bad decision to build a stage, to execute a

00:51:47.640 corporate slave hanging, to go to war over with someone that would have amicably left.

00:51:53.320 I think it also may have left a bad taste in a lot of employees' mouths, many of whom subsequently

00:51:58.220 left and leaked to the press what had happened because unlike you, I actually knew those employees'

00:52:05.540 names.

00:52:05.720 You never bothered to learn their names.

00:52:06.900 You walked by them.

00:52:08.100 They were beneath you.

00:52:09.540 They weren't exactly buying what their narcissistic CEO who puts his name on everything was selling

00:52:14.440 when it came to me.

00:52:16.960 And what you did to me came across as cruel and unnecessary, a little extrajudicial.

00:52:21.740 Most people just, this could have been an email.

00:52:23.700 Now, if I was in your shoes, I might even rank having sent an intern on a secret mission

00:52:30.420 to stalk the woman that you just fired to Dallas, to Turning Point USA, to put her on

00:52:35.540 a plane, an intern.

00:52:37.200 I might rank that as having been a mistake, a psychotic mistake, no less, followed by a

00:52:44.720 somehow even worse decision as a CEO to then author a maniacal, almost five-page long email

00:52:50.340 to the entire company, admitting to the act, justifying the decision to secretly follow

00:52:55.640 someone that you had gloriously fired, saying, and I quote, it's my right, it's my right

00:53:01.360 to know what she's saying.

00:53:03.020 That's not why you were sending her.

00:53:04.060 You were sending her to ask me a question.

00:53:06.340 If you wanted to know what I was saying, Turning Point USA live streams their events,

00:53:10.120 okay?

00:53:10.420 We know what you were doing.

00:53:12.020 Now, were I in your shoes, Jeremy, I might even rank you bizarrely telling Brett Cooper,

00:53:17.820 then a very young employee of yours, just a few weeks before she was slated to get married,

00:53:25.540 sitting her dad and telling her that she shouldn't do that because you had big plans and you were

00:53:29.580 going to turn her into a star because you're the magic.

00:53:32.020 I would probably rank that at the tippity top of bad corporate decisions, among others.

00:53:38.500 You maybe forgot yourself in that moment, as you always do, maybe got a little swept up in

00:53:43.420 you. But conservatives, those pretending to be conservative companies, certainly are not

00:53:49.920 supposed to chase Hollywood fame above family. And I think personally that she made the right

00:53:54.840 decision to leave. And then you made, again, the wrong decision, like the angry, repressed 0.68

00:54:00.500 homosexual that you are, to not just allow a young woman, again, 21 years old, to just leave, 0.99

00:54:08.280 but to, again, stalk. Because that's what you do. You stalk. You pretend it's a business, 0.99

00:54:12.040 but you're glorified stalkers. In this time, in the most sadistic manner possibly ever,

00:54:17.300 offering an obscene amount of money to her maid of honor at that wedding that you didn't want her 0.94

00:54:22.720 to have, to hurt her. Replacing her with her maid of honor because you wanted Brett Cooper,

00:54:29.560 a young woman, to suffer for simply wanting to change jobs. Which is why you worked behind the 1.00

00:54:36.320 scenes through the same demented PR orbit to try to smear her, the friendly pop culture young girl,

00:54:42.480 as an anti-Semite, over an Instagram-like because she liked a year-end roundup of my podcast,

00:54:50.120 and you wouldn't have that. You wouldn't have that. You know, I'd rank that as another mistake,

00:54:54.420 but what I rank as one of my prouder moments and all of that was using some of my nuclear energy to

00:55:01.240 stand up for her publicly, despite contractual restraints, using my platform to say what you did to

00:55:05.580 her was wrong. And when you sued me for that, for standing up for Brett Cooper, I want you to know

00:55:10.360 that I communicated to my legal team that I would accept that. I would accept the penalty of hundreds

00:55:14.880 of thousands of dollars, which you wanted to impart upon me, for me doing the right thing and standing

00:55:20.180 up for someone who didn't deserve what you were putting her through. You put me through it, and you

00:55:23.840 were trying to put her through it, and I told my husband that I would gladly pay that money. I said,

00:55:27.480 if the judge came back in your favor, I wouldn't lie. I would admit that I consciously stood up for

00:55:31.720 somebody who didn't deserve to be smeared. I'm proud of that. In fact, I would have hung it up on a wall

00:55:37.400 and showed my kids that money isn't everything. Doing the right thing is. So maybe all of that could

00:55:44.420 rank somewhere as you're ranking worst decisions that you've ever made. No, probably not, right?

00:55:51.640 Probably not, because you are just a malignant narcissist. You admitted to me that you had a mental 1.00

00:55:57.900 break in Hungary. They didn't sleep for days, and you never really, Jeremy, have admitted to yourself

00:56:04.340 that you haven't come back from it. You really have not come back from it. You are not okay. Your plan

00:56:09.780 here to redeem yourself was to try to destroy my life. You blame me for what you did.

00:56:18.340 In the process, honestly, the only thing that you've been successful at is ruining your own life.

00:56:23.180 So what I think that you're actually suited for, Jeremy, is to return back to Texas, where you grew

00:56:28.640 up, that key you wear around your neck, that bent key that you wear as a necklace every day. For those

00:56:33.840 of you who don't know, that key, which the company is named after, Bent Key Ventures, is a key that he's

00:56:39.480 kept around his neck for 28 years from his hometown, and it unlocks a playhouse theater where he once

00:56:47.460 performed on stage. I think that that's where he should return. He's best suited to go back to Texas

00:56:53.900 to quit playing pretend in the real world and to resume his playhouse acting. How's that? We'll be

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00:58:24.220 and things are looking shiny. All right, top comment from last episode. Michael writes,

00:58:29.280 calling her assassinated husband's memorial an event of the century is a new form of grief that has never

00:58:34.960 been seen before. Yeah, I, like I said, I'm done making excuses after she got caught red-handed

00:58:39.860 and everything I'm learning from the employees right now. Like, she was very much involved in

00:58:44.980 a lot of the PR stuff. She, I assumed everyone was just doing things and she was gathering herself

00:58:50.140 and she was like at home in the fetal condition. Nope, she was in the office every day. And she was

00:58:55.340 making informed decisions alongside Stacey Sheridan and this Marina Minas, who I need to take time to

00:58:59.580 look into, who apparently, by the way, ironically, watches my show every day in the office.

00:59:03.540 Turning Point USA watches this show live in the office and then fired someone for screenshotting

00:59:07.880 the show in the office. I don't even, I don't comprehend that. I'm going to be honest with you.

00:59:14.660 Okay, let's get into some of your comments from today's episode. Kiki writes, Candace,

00:59:19.540 what do you mean Erica said she was watching your show in the beginning and learning? Her husband was

00:59:23.700 just murdered and she was waiting to tune into your next episode. She did not call and ask you for

00:59:27.900 every detail. Be for real, Erica. She thinks we are dumb. Again, yes, in retrospect, I,

00:59:33.540 I realize and have since learned that she did tell me a lot of fibs during our sit down. And the

00:59:41.620 biggest one for me is just the consistent throwing Andrew Colvett under the bus and then me learning

00:59:46.540 that Andrew told the truth from other people. I'm getting, I was getting played. I was getting

00:59:51.260 played and I will own the fact that I was not in a position emotionally to contend with her acting in

01:00:01.200 that manner at all. Obviously I knew Charlie personally. So I was not, look, this story was

01:00:04.600 not objective for me. This has been a subjective story. I was genuinely in grief and my sister was

01:00:09.640 correct when she said, you have suffered a trauma. I couldn't eat. I couldn't sleep. I had, when I

01:00:15.780 went to Wyoming, it was, I was starting to go through the phase of bargaining and hoping that Charlie

01:00:20.860 really was alive, like trying to find the part, the pocket of the internet that would tell me that he

01:00:23.660 was actually secretly alive. And I realized that that's not a good place to be in and I need to

01:00:28.700 take a break and to deal and get to the stage of acceptance. And I don't think, I don't regret that

01:00:34.600 it took me a while to even look at what other people were saying. I think I needed to believe

01:00:41.400 that these were his real friends and that everything in his life was, I don't know. I don't know what I

01:00:46.980 needed to believe. I was going through my own process. I wasn't ready. And I am ready now because I

01:00:51.160 don't like people lie to my face and I don't like people use a lot of money and PR agents. And I

01:00:55.960 just feel foolish to be honest with you. And then send me a cease and desist is crazy. Like you don't 0.97

01:01:03.220 have a right to investigate what happened to Charlie. You don't have a right to ask questions about his

01:01:08.080 murder because our contract covers everybody and their mamas. Goodbye. Again, unconscionable. 1.00

01:01:16.620 Something I could not have known when I signed that agreement to tour with Charlie Kirk is that

01:01:21.780 he was going to be publicly assassinated. And the people at the organization that he built,

01:01:28.120 okay, many nights of no sleep, were going to be colluding to obscure things from the public.

01:01:34.300 That's a pretty strong thing that I could not have known. I just, I'm so, this whole contract stuff,

01:01:39.860 it's fake. It's gay. It's over. We left it in 2025. Okay. The lawsuit stuff to basically say, 0.99

01:01:47.900 I'm allowed to be immoral because you signed a contract and didn't perceive how I could be

01:01:51.940 immoral is just done. You're welcome. It's over. It's done. And the people that do this should just

01:01:59.340 be called that at all times. Honor no contracts where people are trying to make it so that they can

01:02:05.320 treat you immorally. Honor no contracts. There's no way a contract can be written that says I'm

01:02:11.760 allowed to be a jerk, an asshole. I'm allowed to lie. And I'm allowed to abuse you because you sign 1.00

01:02:18.080 a dotted line. Blow them up. Blow them up. Okay. I'm sorry. No, this is the time where I make a 0.98

01:02:25.500 statement that I did tell the priest that I would chill. And I am going to talk to him. Actually,

01:02:31.760 I realized it's been a probably like seven weeks since I've spoken to him. I'm going to get on

01:02:36.920 that. Anyways, I call Shia writes season three, episode four of everyone grieves differently. Oh

01:02:43.920 no, you got that wrong. It's we're in season eight. I think actually seven sheets writes boring makes my

01:02:49.360 skin crawl all the more reason we're here watching you and have been long before the tragedy of Charlie 0.83

01:02:53.780 Kirk and continue to be God bless you. Our Joan of Arc. I will keep dropping these and more if we can get

01:02:59.600 two hour episodes with Candace. But I love what we get. So appreciate it. That's a tremendous

01:03:04.280 donation. I really appreciate you guys. And yeah, I just I don't know. Maybe something did break

01:03:10.660 inside of me with this whole Charlie Kirk thing. But it is it is the audacity of all of it. These

01:03:14.360 they're such bad people. That's what I want you to know. They're such bad people. I have not even

01:03:18.280 told you 10 percent of what Jeremy Boring put me through. I mean, and yeah, every time it was

01:03:23.540 we'll bankrupt you. We'll bankrupt you. If you tell anybody what we're doing to you,

01:03:27.440 we'll bankrupt you. You're you're basically allowed to write contracts to abuse people

01:03:31.740 because normal people, when they're signing these agreements, you don't you don't think

01:03:35.440 that it's being written so that they can abuse you. You're like, oh, we're just agreeing like

01:03:39.240 I'm going to show up to work, do the right thing, be honest with you, have a communicate

01:03:42.080 with you about what I'm going through and depart amicably. But within the world of politics

01:03:47.100 entertainment, that's not what they're doing. And that's what I want to use my platform to

01:03:51.760 let you guys know. That's not what they're doing. They're trying to control you. And

01:03:55.260 it's very sinister. And I could not stay silent with them trying to pull that move on Brett

01:04:01.660 Cooper. Like I was I'm good. OK, my kids will be proud of me one day. I'm good.

01:04:06.460 Jeannie Thompson writes, Erica kept referring to Charlie as still directing Turning Point

01:04:11.420 USA rather than acknowledging that Turning Point USA is an organization established and

01:04:14.640 led by God. That is a cult. Yes, I agree with you. It's very.

01:04:20.460 Something about all of it, even keeping the mic and putting it in a cage and setting up his dinner

01:04:28.360 at a fundraiser. There's something that feels like a seance to me. And we couldn't control him

01:04:35.760 when he was alive, but we can control him now that he's dead and we can control you and tell you what

01:04:43.400 he would have wanted. How can you debate that? This is what he would want. He's dancing in heaven.

01:04:47.700 How can you debate that? If you do debate that? Well, sorry, guys, because now his widow is saying

01:04:52.800 that. So how dare you? That there's something about that that I really don't like. And that

01:04:59.680 something is all of it. I like none of it, actually. Ms. Mint Juleps writes, keep it going.

01:05:06.820 Team Candace, take it to the max. I'm with you all the way. Thank you so much. Julia writes,

01:05:11.460 I'll never be too far right to want the truth, even if it goes against the narrative. Christ is king.

01:05:15.160 The non-elitists are proud of you. It's crazy to go backward and to realize I tweeted Christ is king,

01:05:19.680 not at anybody. And they went ahead and tried to spin that into an anti-Semitic attack. But we're

01:05:27.240 not going to acknowledge these very Semitic Palestinians being mass murdered. They really 0.90

01:05:32.480 are trying to convince us that words hurt more than mass murder. That's just crazy. That genuinely is

01:05:39.780 just so objectively crazy. And they do this without even flinching. They're like, whoa, did you see what

01:05:44.920 Candace Owens said on her podcast? That's pornography. The sexual rituals going on in Israel, 0.98

01:05:51.440 the people that are standing up and nested talking about how they're being raped and the politicians 0.98

01:05:54.000 are all in on it. Israel blackmailing people using sexual blackmail, the mass murder of the 0.92

01:05:59.340 children. That is not pornography. No, not pornography at all. Israel, once upon a time, what was it in 0.96

01:06:05.440 2002? Taking over the television, television sets in Gaza and blaring out pornography to use it as a

01:06:14.480 spiritual weapon against them? That's, no, that's, that's God. That's what God mandated. That's what

01:06:22.260 he wanted. Crazy. Son of a guppy writes, odd. How could you even put these sentences together after 0.64

01:06:29.860 the trauma of what had just happened? Most people would still be curled up in a fetal position,

01:06:33.500 drooling and barely responsive. Yes, I totally agree with you. I agree that all of it's unusual

01:06:40.120 at best. We were then told it's supernatural, that it's like, that is what God can do in your life.

01:06:47.060 And this gets into a larger argument about why people need to be ordained as priests and you

01:06:53.360 shouldn't be listening to people turn biblical proverb into bubble gum. It's a Snapple fact that

01:07:02.220 you could just insert it anywhere. Well, Bible talks about grieving. And so that could mean selling

01:07:06.240 t-shirts or something. Christians are different. It's supernatural. It's like, that is literally why 1.00

01:07:11.260 you should consult a priest on these batters. You are, not everybody can just wake up and be a pastor

01:07:17.580 because they just turn it into their own thoughts and their own opinions and the people that they like

01:07:22.900 and don't like, and then throw in an occasional biblical verse and then go, ha, can't touch this.

01:07:29.120 Biblical verse, can't touch this. No, we're touching this and we're saying what you're telling us is

01:07:34.500 wild. We have a spiritual intuition. It feels wrong because there is something that's wrong.

01:07:40.620 It's very obvious something is wrong with Turning Point USA. It's kind of been obvious since Charlie

01:07:45.040 got assassinated. So we're going to go ahead and acknowledge that all together. One, two, three,

01:07:52.140 something is not right with Turning Point USA. Okay. I'm glad we did that. It feels like the first

01:07:57.600 step of many. Anyways, tomorrow, speaking of Palestinian lives that have been lost and my

01:08:05.340 radical transformation, which was no transformation at all. I actually have not changed any of my

01:08:09.620 opinions. I've always thought murdering children is wrong. Why I'm pro-life. Bassem Youssef was a

01:08:15.240 major reason that I woke up and The Daily Wire denied my request while I was there to have him on my show.

01:08:22.060 Well, guess what? This is not their show anymore. It's my show. And so Bassem Youssef is going to be

01:08:26.040 joining me live, and we're going to discuss a variety of topics. But I'm really grateful to

01:08:30.440 the people who spoke out early on and awakened, I think, a lot of us to the horrors of what's going

01:08:36.220 on in Israel, and he's one of them. So we'll see you guys tomorrow.

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