Loose Lips Sink Ships： ANOTHER Zoom Call Leaks… ｜ Candace Ep 297
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Summary
Candace and J.D. try to grieve the loss of their dear friend and colleague, Charlie Chaplin, who was shot and killed in a helicopter crash in the early morning hours of April 15th, 2019. Meanwhile, former Daily Wire CEO Jeremy Boring is back trying to make a comeback to proclaim his name in the press. And like everyone in the mainstream media, he appears to be auditioning for a role at AIPAC in the tried-and-true manner of publicly attacking Tucker Carlson and yours truly.
Transcript
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All right, you guys, welcome back to Season 9, Episode 2 of Everybody Grieves Differently.
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You know, in retrospect, we should have probably saw that for what it was, recognized that
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expression for what it was, another well-financed PR campaign against people for asking meaningful
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Now, you might be surprised then to learn who actually uttered that expression first
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over at Turning Point USA, before Charlie's memorial.
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In a corporate-wide phone call, which took place, or Zoom call rather, just five and
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And speaking of different ways to grieve, the now former CEO of Daily Wire, Jeremy Boring,
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is back trying to make a comeback to proclaim his name in the press after he ran the company
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into the ground with his petty grievances and personal passion projects.
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And like everyone in the mainstream media, he appears to be auditioning for a role at
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AIPAC in the very tried-and-true manner of publicly attacking Tucker Carlson and yours truly,
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correlating us to Antifa thugs and also this show to pornography.
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First and foremost, a major correction from yesterday.
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We made a mistake and showed you a picture of a man that is actually not named Bob Flood
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I've actually reached out to him, and I just deeply apologize.
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We wiped it from the episode, but many of you saw it before we actually did.
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So I just wanted to clarify that that picture that we showed yesterday of Bob Flood from Chicago
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It was a man named Bob Ferguson from Iowa who literally had nothing to do with anything.
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I'm kind of using some back channels to make that happen.
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And damn, if we are not realizing that right now.
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I can say with full confidence after combining what we have learned throughout this investigation
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to be a fact, and after now speaking with employees who were let go in this recent string of aggressive
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firings, employees that did nothing or were told, weren't told that they did anything,
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they certainly were not the people that were leaking to me, that I do believe firmly from
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the beginning that Erica was intimately involved in the PR messaging and the PR campaign at
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different times against me, sometimes against the entire world, but against me in particular.
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Just to recap why this is now suddenly important, no one's picking on her, we have confirmed
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She liked my face, actually, regarding the Superman neck.
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She blamed that on Andrew Colvett, said that he went rogue, that Dr. Lee Trotter also went
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rogue, violated HIPAA, that they hopped on the phone and did this without her consent or
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And on top of that, Andrew then sends out a tweet.
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And I told you, confirmed to you, the doctor did not violate HIPAA.
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And the statement pertaining to Superman neck came from her.
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Andrew Colvett, in that regard, was doing Erica's bidding.
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She lied in a doctor, a surgeon, and she knew that she was on that call.
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We've also now confirmed that she was at the Hamptons retreat, the now infamous Hamptons
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And that bothers me because I was out here catching a lot of heat for telling the truth.
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Now, we have two different versions of that story.
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Andrew Colvett said that Bibi offered to fund Turning Point to the Next Level.
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I have since confirmed what Andrew Colvett said with two people that are not related to
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Erica, despite being at that dinner and confirming that she was there, does not remember that
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She says that there was not an offer that was made and that Bibi was calling about the
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Andrew confirmed to me that Charlie described that summit as like an intervention was being
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Again, with everything that we now know, my assumption was she didn't weigh in, weighed
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into things and weighed into the water and didn't say anything about the debate that was
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happening because she was so overwhelmed and kind of catching her breath as a new CEO and
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I think now I have a different perspective on that.
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I'm not sure why she did not come out and say if she was capable of doing calls and sitting
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down and doing meetings, come out and say like, yes, this this Hampton summit did happen.
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Yes, Bibi did call and try to work through with Andrew why they have different memories of
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whether or not he called to fund things to the next level.
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We have also confirmed that Erica and Andrew were working together on that Fort Huachuca PR
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Alex Jones, quite entertainingly, he's coming for me my whole life, everything.
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But that PR response was confirmed that she was a part of that through this obscure YouTuber,
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Paramount Tactical, rather than going directly to me after we sat down.
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That, to me, seems like a pretty strong violation of a well-meaning conversation that I had with
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And I should also mention that that was the same YouTuber, despite also going into Mitch's
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But after calling for a ceasefire and saying, let us sit down and talk, they welcomed Paramount
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Tactical onto Charlie Kirk's podcast show while I was in this hotel room to debunk me.
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And then that, I think, was the beginning of when it clicked to me, seeing that him being
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caught live, Andrew Colbert live messaging something from Erica after she told me that they
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were disappointed in Andrew, that he wasn't going to be involved in PR anymore.
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That's when I realized that I was being lied to, that she was making moves behind the scenes.
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And the answer that we will likely never get, to add one more point here, is whether Andrew
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And I would like to say that I don't believe Andrew was lying.
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I believe Andrew was telling me the truth when he said that when he stepped off of the
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plane in Provo on September 10th, he basically collapsed into Erica's arms, crying on the tarmac
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because he had all this pent-up emotion, had this big plane.
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Everyone was messaging him about Charlie asking for his status.
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And the impression that I got was that Andrew was on that plane alone.
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But then we were later told that Andrew was accompanied by his wife.
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But Erica, during our face-to-face meeting, had no recollection of his wife stepping off
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She was unable to answer that question as to whether or not Andrew flew in with his wife
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What we know thereafter is that when they arrived at the hospital, after waiting for an hour,
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if Andrew was too believed, then she waited for an hour on the tarmac for Andrew's flight
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They arrived at the hospital and went in through separate entrances.
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Andrew went through the front, a main entrance where there were other TPUSA staff there, people
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that were there on that day, and Erica went in through a back or side entrance.
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If they disturb you, then you should know that you are not alone.
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The world obviously melted down yesterday when we played the corporate wide call hosted
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by Erica to Turning Point employees following the memorial event.
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The overwhelming consensus, the human response to that is that you feel disturbed when you listen
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to it, spiritually disturbed by the emotion of it, the happiness.
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Speaking about merchandise being sold, hats being sold.
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This new corporate wide call that I'm going to share with you today took place even earlier
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so that you can go back into your time machines.
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It took place just five and a half days after Charlie was pronounced dead, five and a half
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This is when Turning Point USA employees are told that Erica is going to be replacing Charlie
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The public is going to be informed a day later on September 17th in a public letter signed
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And I should be clear that when Doug DeGroote going backward and looking at the announcement,
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he makes it very biblical, very biblical, which is a common theme here.
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Everything is about this is what God has ordained.
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It reads in Ecclesiastes, King Solomon wrote that mankind is to be tested by God.
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Today, we are facing such a test, yet we also know that God has prepared us with everything
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It was the honor of our lives to serve as board members of Charlie's side.
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Charlie prepared all of us for a moment like this one.
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He worked tirelessly to ensure Turning Point USA was built to survive even the greatest
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And now it is our great pride to announce Erica Kirk as the new CEO and chair of the board
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It's like going, I don't even remember that letter at all.
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It's King Solomon and it's, you know, this is what God wants.
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Now, this decision, like I said, published on the 17th was actually voted upon earlier.
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I know because Andrew Colvett told me before the public knew that the board had selected
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Erica within about 72 hours of Charlie's death.
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I was crying on the phone with him, already concerned by the obvious attempt from people
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who hated Charlie previously, now committing themselves publicly to taking over his legacy,
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filling in his boots, picking up his bloody mic.
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And Andrew reassured me that the decision had already been made and that it was Erica that
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And in my aggrieved state, I said, okay, great.
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So I'm so happy that none of these people who literally hated him are going to try to
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Now, in hindsight, practically speaking, this means that within a space of about 72 hours,
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someone approached Erica and thought that the right thing to ask or say was, hey, I know
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you're going through a lot right now, but is it okay if we put your name up for the position
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of CEO and can we put that to a board vote today?
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Are you willing and able to take over as the chairman and the CEO in Charlie's stead?
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To which Erica had to have replied, yes, she had to give her consent for that to go up
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How it happened, exactly when it was said, somebody felt that was appropriate to say
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Now, my first 72 hours was a little bit different.
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On my end, when Mitchell, my PR agent, sent me a very kind message about the infinite press
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requests that we had been receiving, people seeking a statement from me regarding how I
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felt about Charlie's public assassination, I wanted to physically assault him.
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He actually did his job with the utmost professionalism and care.
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That's how I felt at that time, because everything just felt so intrusive.
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Like, to even think about the world going on felt wrong.
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I didn't think anything of her appointment at that time or beyond it other than what I
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stated publicly, which was that Turning Point USA should have waited and instead appointed
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an interim CEO to allow Erica the time that she needed to grieve rather than her having
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to deal with everyone questioning her moves as a CEO.
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I also thought, well, maybe they rushed the decision because it was symbolic and they felt
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it was necessary, that it was sort of honorific, meaning she wasn't really going to do anything
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But they wanted to announce that this is the direction that it's going, which would be fair.
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Like, just wanting the announcement to mean something.
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And on her end, I thought maybe Erica said yes because she wanted to hold on to some sense
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But of course, looking in retrospect, it is stunning to me that Erica chose not to bring
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a single member of her actual family with her to Utah, something that I just sort of missed
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Charlie Kirk's mother, father, sister, they all raced to Utah to be with him at the hospital,
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But Erica, no one in her immediate family joined her in her darkest hour.
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Instead, she was joined by Stacey Sheridan, who was playing the part of her mother.
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Stacey, who is the head of fundraising for Turning Point USA.
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Don't forget, it was Stacey Sheridan, who concerns herself with Turning Point raising
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It is Stacey Sheridan, who traveled with Erica.
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She's the one who was holding Erica, holding her hand as Charlie's casket was coming off
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That was Stacey Sheridan standing next to her recording.
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Not her mother, not her dad, not Erica's sister.
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You just would think that somebody, that you would call somebody close to you that does
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not exist in a corporate structure to be by your side.
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That is my now totally rational perspective looking backward.
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But it was Stacey Sheridan, who I have told her since day one, I personally warned Charlie
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That is my personal opinion, that there is no rung into hell that Stacey Sheridan will not
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descend upon for a dollar, that's my experience with her.
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But this person was somehow crucial, crucial to coming and being beside Erica at all moments.
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If you go back and look, it is Stacey, you would think Stacey Sheridan was Erica's mother.
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You can even check out this clip, which is her in a car.
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On the phone, Stacey is there capturing every moment.
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Me, I needed my sister to fly in to be by my side, husband, cousin.
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Now let's get back to September 16th though, because I like to focus on that date.
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Because with Stacey in earshot, Erica is going to address the company for the first time.
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She doesn't have full hair and makeup on, which of course, I think I welcome that as a good thing.
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I don't expect her to be at the office, but I'm happy that she's not in full hair and makeup, because this is five and a half days after her husband was pronounced dead.
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This is before we've had his funeral, anything.
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And I'm going to tell you that the employees that chose to record this and the employees that are still there and upset with the manner in which people were fired are saying that they feel like they were, it was like a cult.
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They felt like they were being manipulated, that they were only given Erica as this symbol of you guys need to work harder, right?
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As though Charlie's wife was being used to convince employees that it is now a mandate handed to them by God to work harder, to sacrifice themselves, to work longer days, because this is their new family.
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Like this word, I've always been struck by this, describing the employees like a family, to drive them to work like horses, only to then fire them after a quarter billion is raised, is wild, okay?
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Like I said, at least she is not dressed in hair and makeup.
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I would say the bad news is that once again, Erica is going to stop herself from using the word happy in the context of Charlie and how he must be feeling in heaven.
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I'm going to let this play out for five minutes straight, and there is no context needed other than this is five and a half days after her husband was publicly assassinated.
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And yes, in the background, that is Terrell Farnsworth, the guy who took down the cameras.
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But we're going to see, we are going to see some grief.
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So I'm going to allow you guys to watch this for five minutes.
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And I want you all to remember those so deeply.
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I want you to be able to tell your kids about them.
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I want you to put those in your heart as why you're still here with the Turning Point USA again, because that's what we want.
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And like I said to our small group, after whatever day that was that I did the thing on TV, my days are so long on Friday.
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I told the team, I said, Turning Point USA will continue like my husband always wanted, and it will be bigger than ever.
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We're going to work hard because that's what he would want.
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And we're going to keep our eyes fixed on heaven.
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And, you know, like even Stacey said, he's going to find ways to speak to us.
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And he's going to speak to you in different ways.
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But you'll get little moments where you're like, OK, Charlie, I see you.
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But he's here, and he's more alive than ever, and he's going to guide us.
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But again, what I told the team was, I will fight like hell to make sure that all of you have a job here.
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I don't want anyone to think that job's in jeopardy.
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Because your family, if you want to, if you choose to leave, that's different.
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I never will, and I promise you, I will make sure that I never allow a point to where you have to leave because we cannot financially afford you.
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Obviously, circumstances, you know, things, I'm seeing things that might pop up here and there that we can't foresee in the future.
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But for right now, the way things are, I live by journey.
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They are status quo, and I think that's the best thing to do.
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But I just want to let you know that you guys are all very loved.
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And Charlie would be, I mean, I think Charlie's just,
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I'm trying not to say that he would be, he's obviously celebrating in heaven amongst many things.
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And he's so proud of all of you for keeping this mission alive.
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He knows that you will be able to carry the torch.
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And he knows that you're going to do a great job.
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And you're going to be able to, even though things are going to be tough,
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But once you're, just what I've noticed these past several days is if I didn't have the family,
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the Turning Point USA family with me, all of you, I would be a disaster.
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But the fact that we have a continued mission to look forward to, and we have our family,
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Because all of you were together prior to this, and we'll be together after this.
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And it's, and we, everything, and I told Justin, it's going to be something where everything
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Any email you were working on, any project you were working on, is, it's not that it's
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But like, I just want all of you to know, we will be wise stewards.
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And I just want you to know that, again, I'm with you.
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And we're going to make sure that we honor my husband so well.
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That this whole world knows what his, his vision was and will be.
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That is like, I couldn't, blessed and honored to be the CEO and to be telling you guys that
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you're a family and I want you to see this because we've spoken about this, the Mooney's
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cult and these people that are leaving are like, it's, it was just like a cult.
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Like basically she's saying this, she's calling you a family.
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That's why it's important to, you have to hold this to the fire.
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You promise these kids that if you, they are going to work harder, you're in this family.
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Saying your jobs are, you know, that's, that's when she breaks, right?
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When she says, I just, it's so important for that.
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Like I feel, I feel emotionally attached to you guys working for me.
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And then you attach that to what we showed you of a young woman who, like I said, on
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everything, never, I'd never leak, leak, she never leaked anything.
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And for asking a simple question, like literally, why am I fired?
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You're not allowed to say everybody grieves differently.
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So I don't have to answer any questions about that.
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And guys, we're going to bring in the beginning too, because I want you to watch the beginning
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of this so you can see the full thing because we don't need to strip anything.
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Because she starts by laughing, which I find to be interesting.
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But I do want to let you know that we are having some buffering issues.
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If you have some connectivity issues, just know that that's the reason why.
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This is a little bit more informal than probably Charlie would be reacting.
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I just wanted to say, first and foremost, my heart obviously is broken for you guys as
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You guys lost not only a boss, but someone that you looked up to, someone that you believed
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I'm sure some of you have also had very personal moments of where you sat down and...
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So that's the beginning, just so you have that in its full context.
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It feels to me a bit like a psychological phenomenon known as trauma bonding, right?
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That's not a trauma that most people go through in their entire lives.
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You sign up, the majority of these people, to work for this organization because they
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They believe in what he is doing on college campuses.
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And now management is going to try to establish your loyalty using all sorts of tactics.
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But essentially what they're creating here is an emotional dependence, right?
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And that very well may not have been Erica's intent.
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But hearing her sound like she's about to cry when she discusses specifically them keeping
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their jobs, not Charlie, but having Charlie haven't been assassinated in front of the world,
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but the prospect of their employment, we do not have to imagine if she meant that sincerely
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After working them all like horses, wrapping them in this way, she's going to fire a boatload
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For those of you wondering, they just must feel like they just got punched in the face.
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Then you get brought in on this emotional, we're a family, we're a family, never, I never would
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Now we're going to keep letting this play out because you are going to hear her actually
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be the first person to say an expression that has been used a lot.
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She's going to remind people that everybody grieves differently.
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Five and a half days after Charlie was announced dead at the hospital.
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And we will do our best to continue to make Turning Point USA the behemoth that he wanted
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But, you know, I just want you guys to stay in prayer.
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And if you guys do need anything, please reach out to whoever you know to reach out to.
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So if someone's acting weird, don't read into that.
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Weddings and furials bring out the weirdest side of me.
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And if there's anything or anyone who tries to divide your team or you, or that's just
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the enemy, and just rebuke it and know that there's a bigger mission at hand.
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So I just wanted to take some time to hop on and share with you my tendances.
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But again, the fact that there's a lot of them in the office only today, the fact that
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a lot of you guys are here in office, that's what he would do with the mission.
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He doesn't want you to just be sitting on the couch alone in your room.
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He wants you to, obviously, I mean, we will all mourn, but he would want you to build.
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Lucia, I just wanted to share this with you all.
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And she said, you know, when you're on an airplane, and some of you have kids who really
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Others that don't, you've been on a plane with kids, so you can also relate to this.
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But she said, when you're on an airplane, and you're 15 minutes before landing, and the
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kids are going crazy, and you have 15 minutes left on the plane, and they're throwing their
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toys, and they're screaming, and you're thinking to yourself, am I going to make it through
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these next 15 minutes, and then the plane lands, and Lucia said, you're going to make
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And so I just want to share that with you, because it was a very private moment, but it
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gave me some peace to know that we can just do this for 10 minutes at a time.
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So if that means at work, when you're feeling a little bit, stop, take those 15 minutes, and
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I wanted to share that with you because I fully side with the employees, what they have lived
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through, everything that's happened, to have them admit that they worked 20-hour days, to
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see how they were manipulated into doing that, and then having the carpet pulled under their
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And God forbid you want to speak out about what you've lived through.
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They were loyal employees, and they said that they felt like they were being emotionally
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manipulated, to think that they had to just work harder.
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Even beyond the 20-hour days they were working during the weekday, they were then asked to
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come in on the weekend to pack t-shirts because it's what Charlie would want.
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And I kept picking up on that beyond these calls.
00:30:32.220
I kept saying, why does it feel like they're using the ghost of Charlie to sort of guilt
00:30:49.400
He is, I'm not, I don't want to say the word happy.
00:30:54.620
Maybe he's not happy that he's never going to see his children again or put into bed.
00:31:14.180
I do believe with all of the new information that I'm getting, and it is a lot, that she
00:31:20.220
has been orchestrating this entire PR campaign from the back and pretending that Andrew Colvett
00:31:25.400
Maybe some credit to Andrew Colvett for being enough of a gentleman to absorb all that,
00:31:30.080
to allow people to think that it was just him acting rogue when it wasn't.
00:31:35.540
Um, I, and I don't know what the purpose is of that lie.
00:31:41.660
And by the way, just going back to that end of, uh, uh, the timeline that we have put
00:31:47.100
together, it's actually stunning to consider that when they opted to have the three-way
00:31:52.640
call with the doctor, okay, when they hurried, hurried and called the surgeon because I did
00:31:59.180
an episode and I was like, hey, something's really weird that you guys should know is
00:32:05.040
And then Erica and Andrew got on the phone with the surgeon.
00:32:10.400
That was on the day of Charlie's actual funeral mass.
00:32:13.080
Like, that was a priority for them to have something to issue as a statement onto X to
00:32:19.520
try to explain away why a 30-06 didn't go through.
00:32:23.060
Like, that doesn't seem like the proper day for that, but that's when it happened.
00:32:26.480
That's when it factually, that phone call took place.
00:32:28.700
We know because Andrew said, just got off the phone with the surgeon.
00:32:34.120
The day after my episode when people were going, what do you mean there's no blood in the
00:32:40.460
Why are we being lied to and we're supposed to accept that they have enough money?
00:32:45.780
To hire crisis PR people and a bunch of accounts on X to tell us that it's ungodly for us to
00:32:54.600
That God's mandate means you can't question this.
00:32:57.320
You can't question why kids are being treated like this.
00:33:00.460
He's dancing in heaven watching how kids that, a bunch of students that slaved for him, 20-hour
00:33:07.240
days to put together the memorial events, are being let go for no reason other than loyalty
00:33:15.700
tests that are being conducted by Marina, the COO, who's talking to Uber drivers for the
00:33:21.540
Hey, have you heard anything about Turning Point USA?
00:33:23.000
Well, I heard that this Uber driver said that you may have said something.
00:33:45.180
I really don't like when people lie to my face.
00:33:46.080
And then I don't like when they send me cease and desist because I told the truth.
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I would say that's like a personal trigger of mine.
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I would say that we exist in a time right now where we recognize that we live in a matrix.
00:37:10.680
Like we actually live in a matrix and that matrix is fully glitching.
00:37:22.120
They know that they've lost power, but they're still going to create this illusion that they haven't.
00:37:27.140
They're going to keep smearing people that are telling the truth, even though it's ineffectual.
00:37:30.740
Like, no, we actually don't care anymore what they're writing, but they're going to keep doing it.
00:37:36.560
They're going to keep pretending that these people are popular and these people are awful.
00:37:48.120
And we're learning that people who pretended like they cared about free speech are the number one people that are trying to squash it.
00:37:57.380
And there's no greater example of that than, of course, Daily Wire.
00:37:59.720
Now, the Daily Wire CEO, one day, Daily Wire is a company in a fair world, probably not one day.
00:38:09.480
But if we lived in a fair world, it would be taught in psychology courses.
00:38:12.920
Like, watching what this company did to itself in the span of one year is incredible.
00:38:18.420
It's objectively, as an interest piece, incredible.
00:38:22.340
Like, if I'm just a journalist going, this is fascinating, right?
00:38:24.580
Jeremy Boring was the CEO when all that happened, and he kind of went away for, I would say, a year.
00:38:33.260
This man loves the spotlight like you wouldn't believe.
00:38:36.660
But he goes on to a podcast and decides to open up about me, of course, and what I did wrong, saying, essentially, things were fine until they weren't fine.
00:38:49.760
And I'm just going to let you hear him in context, what I've done here and what he has to say about me.
00:38:55.600
When Candace worked for you, do you sometimes look back at the decision and think, that wasn't a good one when she was working at The Wire?
00:39:03.820
Yeah, well, I certainly think that hiring Candace is probably the biggest mistake of my professional life so far.
00:39:10.820
At the time, I had misgivings about Candace, but it wasn't a completely cynical decision.
00:39:18.500
I believed that Candace could be a great force for good in the world.
00:39:24.500
Candace is the most talented person I've ever met, not just in conservative media, but in any media.
00:39:38.540
She has incredibly unique gifts and skills in that area.
00:39:43.760
And when she wields those gifts and skills for good, she's incredibly effective.
00:39:50.500
Some of the content that we made when we first brought Candace on was focused on that topic.
00:39:54.780
And I think she was as good as anybody in the world and made a really positive impact.
00:40:00.400
I've said before, Candace is like nuclear energy.
00:40:02.800
You know, if you harness it properly, she can power a city.
00:40:10.260
Candace, all those same gifts that she has at various times used for good, she's now using for ill.
00:40:19.060
The problem is, if what you're pursuing is bad and you're the best at it, you're going to do an incredible amount of damage.
00:40:25.320
And Candace is doing an incredible amount of damage.
00:40:27.000
So what's amazing about that is he's not even aware of how objectively racist what he just said was.
00:40:35.960
We brought Candace on because she was critiquing Black people.
00:40:40.320
We brought her on because it was nice to have a Black person that was willing to call out Black Lives Matter.
00:40:50.340
She talked about how Black Lives Matter had grown into really what it was, was a Black supremacy movement where they were no longer fighting for equality.
00:40:56.140
Actually, what they wanted was special treatment.
00:40:59.040
I have not shifted my viewpoints on BLM and the fact that it was going to ultimately backfire on Black America like it did burn down Black American cities.
00:41:07.200
But then, then that, oh my gosh, when she then noticed that Israel was actually flattening cities.
00:41:17.220
When she noticed that actually the Jewish community was acting like the supremacists suddenly and noticed that they were acting exceptionally, they wanted to be treated exceptionally, and they were coming after speech, that's when I realized that this energy, this energy couldn't be harnessed.
00:41:36.840
It could flatten a city like Bibi Netanyahu did to Gaza.
00:41:39.500
That's when, man, she was a talent when I could teach her to go after Black people.
00:41:45.200
But then when she sort of noticed that Jewish people were not behaving correctly and were making demands in a similar fashion and coming after people's lives and livelihood, that's when, well, we had to draw the line.
00:42:00.700
And then he's going to correlate my show to pornography.
00:42:07.440
You say people tell you that they listen to Candace.
00:42:09.360
I had a guy tell me recently, he said, you know, what should I say to my wife?
00:42:13.320
You know, she keeps telling me about things that she hears Candace say, and I don't even know how to respond to them.
00:42:19.160
I said, well, I would just respond by telling her fun things that you saw in some porno video that you watched.
00:42:26.440
I said, well, the same level of shame should accompany both statements.
00:42:29.780
Like, one should be ashamed to say publicly that they're watching Candace Owens now.
00:42:34.380
And Candace Owens, who is at war with the widow of her purported best friend, Charlie Kirk, this is so far beyond the pale.
00:42:46.420
You know, the fact that people can say with a straight face, oh, what do you make of what Candace said?
00:42:51.300
What I make of it is that it is a kind of pornography.
00:42:58.060
It does the same thing that regular pornography does.
00:43:00.680
It titillates, it stimulates, it's slightly naughty.
00:43:04.880
It's great for getting clicks, and it makes tons of money on the Internet.
00:43:09.060
And you shouldn't be able to look at it if you're under 18.
00:43:14.940
Now, I remind you that one of the reasons I got fired is I said we should look into the history of pornography.
00:43:19.380
Don't ask him about real pornography and where it comes from.
00:43:24.860
Don't you dare, because then you would be the kind of nuclear energy that we can't harness correctly.
00:43:30.720
When you talk about pornography, you should talk about real pornography.
00:43:34.420
People are getting educated in recognizing that there are double standards and that you cannot use emotional arguments like BLM did.
00:43:40.400
And like we are seeing Israel do today to go, you can't talk about the facts.
00:43:44.980
George Floyd died, and we can't talk about any more facts.
00:43:47.280
And this is crazy, and we're all sad, and we can't even discuss things rationally.
00:43:57.980
But the moment where you really recognize that—I had hoped that he checked into treatment, to be honest with you.
00:44:04.680
But he has zero self-awareness, is when Jeremy accuses me of being self-aggrandizing.
00:44:13.780
Candace Owens is engaged in a—as I see it—Candace is engaged in a project of self-aggrandizement.
00:44:22.540
I've asked Candace on two separate occasions, what do you actually believe?
00:44:27.760
And on both occasions, she told me, I believe what the people believe.
00:44:35.000
Never mind that that's a completely amoral statement.
00:44:37.840
Never mind that I don't know who the people are in this conversation.
00:44:42.060
Never mind that the people, whoever they are, can obviously be wrong.
00:44:45.520
Candace is actually saying something somewhat profound.
00:44:48.120
She's saying, I will say whatever gets the most reward.
00:44:52.720
She may not even know that that's what she's saying.
00:44:54.740
But she's essentially—she's articulating audience capture as a virtue.
00:45:03.000
So the first and foremost, that is obviously made up.
00:45:07.340
Who just comes in and goes, what do you believe?
00:45:11.040
And then someone just replies and says, I believe whatever the people believe.
00:45:21.780
She said, I believe whatever the people believe because I just want cliques, which is why she
00:45:25.820
took this path of going up against Black Lives Matter as a black person and putting on a
00:45:29.780
Trump hat because the easy route—that was obviously the easy route to get cliques back in 2016.
00:45:37.400
But to pretend that I am into myself—you know, I have to just shout this out because there are
00:45:44.100
You don't understand what we lived through, you guys.
00:45:48.400
They're passing away, listening to Jeremy Boring talk about somebody who likes attention.
00:45:53.020
Jeremy Boring is the CEO who woke up every day.
00:45:58.140
So many more regrets that I could toss out of him.
00:46:01.000
Like, getting up every day, going into the office, and getting your hair and your makeup
00:46:08.240
Making talent, people who had shows, wait outside while you closed the room, had people
00:46:16.500
Hundreds of thousands of dollars on a clothing rack so you could go sit in the office and take
00:46:30.380
And he literally builds stages every time he speaks at the Daily Wire.
00:46:34.600
Jeremy Boring is a person that is so obsessed with himself and thinks about nobody else that
00:46:43.880
Jeremy Boring was wanting to live out his boyhood theater kid dreams, right?
00:46:50.680
He flew out virtually the entire company to Hungary to bring a book that he read in middle
00:46:59.260
school to life on a budget that would make HBO blush, paying to transport bulls across the
00:47:06.980
continent of Europe, and the process obviously plummeting a once financially healthy company
00:47:13.420
I am told last number I heard was $67 million spent on a high school dream.
00:47:19.360
So much money that he had to borrow, empty a savings account, borrow money personally from
00:47:23.840
Ben Shapiro to make ends meet because he couldn't let go of his high school dream.
00:47:29.340
That's not ranking as his number one regret because that's the true story of what happened
00:47:35.560
Actually, the Bulwark podcast, which is no friend of mine, they hate me, they were pretty
00:47:41.560
If you go back and listen and honest about what happened at the Daily Wire, they spent
00:47:49.760
Because of the Daily Wire's enormous revenues, they were in their streaming ambitions.
00:47:54.620
Jeremy Boring was able to become, not just like to finance this, but he is the director
00:47:59.320
and the creator of it, this like incredibly ambitious operation.
00:48:05.060
And so like they made these production diaries.
00:48:07.360
And so I watched these videos on YouTube of them filming it.
00:48:10.100
And you look at it and it's like, are they capable of doing this?
00:48:13.720
I mean, we're talking about like a hundred extras, like fist fighting in a marsh in
00:48:18.200
Hungary, like the mist is coming in, all like enormous crews.
00:48:21.920
Then they're like, well, we're flying off to Italy.
00:48:23.720
And this was on the Daily Wire's dime they were doing this?
00:48:27.760
It's, oh, yeah, we're flying to Italy to film with bulls, but they were imported from
00:48:33.820
And you're just like, like ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching.
00:48:38.740
Well, that might explain some of this departure agreement where you're spending millions on
00:48:45.740
a bizarre project set in Roman era Britain, but filmed in Hungary involving Italian bulls
00:48:56.000
That's actually, that's actually what happened.
00:48:58.360
And it caused Jeremy Boring to have a mental, a mental break.
00:49:02.140
And we all just had to be subjected to it as people that are working up at Daily Wire.
00:49:06.040
And you would think that after taking a hiatus, she would come back and realizing this failed.
00:49:11.220
Nobody wanted anything to do with it because like always, he casts himself in every role.
00:49:25.500
But after taking a year to reflect, he would come back and say, that's my biggest mistake.
00:49:30.980
That I put me at the center of everything and I took a financially healthy company and I crushed it.
00:49:37.800
If I'm Jeremy Boring, I would say it was a mistake not to just end things amicably with Candace.
00:49:42.680
Especially when she gave me the option after Ben jumped up on a table and accused her of being a faux
00:49:50.040
sophisticate because she said, genocide is always wrong.
00:49:54.760
When she came to me eight and a half months pregnant, hands open and willing to discuss and fix things
00:49:59.380
or agree to amicably go our separate ways if we couldn't post-October 7th, he decided not to do that.
00:50:08.600
Jeremy decided to instead maniacally convey to me that they suspected that I might have been
00:50:15.260
secretly working with Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson, like we're the three musketeers or something.
00:50:20.040
Rather than simply humbling himself, admitting that he was completely deluded and wrong and
00:50:25.440
that I was, in fact, always loyal to the company that I worked for, he hatched up his next great
00:50:33.480
I sank the company into debt, but I can fix it.
00:50:36.940
My next big plan is to do what we did to Breitbart.
00:50:41.320
We'll accuse Candace, who's actually hardworking, super pregnant.
00:50:46.000
But we'll accuse her of being anti-Semitic and gloriously fire her over having said Christ
00:50:52.220
We'll do this during Lent because surely that will lead to more Daily Wire signups.
00:51:01.680
They'll realize that we had to do the tough with the moral thing.
00:51:06.240
But they'll realize that we took a moral stance for Jews because what kind of monster tweets
00:51:16.060
Jeremy actually personally reviewed Andrew Klavan's episode before it went out.
00:51:27.640
Management truly believed that they were going to get a bunch of signups of the Daily Wire
00:51:32.920
The whole world was going to support them and their debt issues would be wiped away.
00:51:37.780
It's now been two years and you would think, Jeremy, I would think that you might have
00:51:42.240
the courage to admit that it was simply a bad decision to build a stage, to execute a
00:51:47.640
corporate slave hanging, to go to war over with someone that would have amicably left.
00:51:53.320
I think it also may have left a bad taste in a lot of employees' mouths, many of whom subsequently
00:51:58.220
left and leaked to the press what had happened because unlike you, I actually knew those employees'
00:52:09.540
They weren't exactly buying what their narcissistic CEO who puts his name on everything was selling
00:52:16.960
And what you did to me came across as cruel and unnecessary, a little extrajudicial.
00:52:21.740
Most people just, this could have been an email.
00:52:23.700
Now, if I was in your shoes, I might even rank having sent an intern on a secret mission
00:52:30.420
to stalk the woman that you just fired to Dallas, to Turning Point USA, to put her on
00:52:37.200
I might rank that as having been a mistake, a psychotic mistake, no less, followed by a
00:52:44.720
somehow even worse decision as a CEO to then author a maniacal, almost five-page long email
00:52:50.340
to the entire company, admitting to the act, justifying the decision to secretly follow
00:52:55.640
someone that you had gloriously fired, saying, and I quote, it's my right, it's my right
00:53:06.340
If you wanted to know what I was saying, Turning Point USA live streams their events,
00:53:12.020
Now, were I in your shoes, Jeremy, I might even rank you bizarrely telling Brett Cooper,
00:53:17.820
then a very young employee of yours, just a few weeks before she was slated to get married,
00:53:25.540
sitting her dad and telling her that she shouldn't do that because you had big plans and you were
00:53:29.580
going to turn her into a star because you're the magic.
00:53:32.020
I would probably rank that at the tippity top of bad corporate decisions, among others.
00:53:38.500
You maybe forgot yourself in that moment, as you always do, maybe got a little swept up in
00:53:43.420
you. But conservatives, those pretending to be conservative companies, certainly are not
00:53:49.920
supposed to chase Hollywood fame above family. And I think personally that she made the right
00:53:54.840
decision to leave. And then you made, again, the wrong decision, like the angry, repressed
00:54:00.500
homosexual that you are, to not just allow a young woman, again, 21 years old, to just leave,
00:54:08.280
but to, again, stalk. Because that's what you do. You stalk. You pretend it's a business,
00:54:12.040
but you're glorified stalkers. In this time, in the most sadistic manner possibly ever,
00:54:17.300
offering an obscene amount of money to her maid of honor at that wedding that you didn't want her
00:54:22.720
to have, to hurt her. Replacing her with her maid of honor because you wanted Brett Cooper,
00:54:29.560
a young woman, to suffer for simply wanting to change jobs. Which is why you worked behind the
00:54:36.320
scenes through the same demented PR orbit to try to smear her, the friendly pop culture young girl,
00:54:42.480
as an anti-Semite, over an Instagram-like because she liked a year-end roundup of my podcast,
00:54:50.120
and you wouldn't have that. You wouldn't have that. You know, I'd rank that as another mistake,
00:54:54.420
but what I rank as one of my prouder moments and all of that was using some of my nuclear energy to
00:55:01.240
stand up for her publicly, despite contractual restraints, using my platform to say what you did to
00:55:05.580
her was wrong. And when you sued me for that, for standing up for Brett Cooper, I want you to know
00:55:10.360
that I communicated to my legal team that I would accept that. I would accept the penalty of hundreds
00:55:14.880
of thousands of dollars, which you wanted to impart upon me, for me doing the right thing and standing
00:55:20.180
up for someone who didn't deserve what you were putting her through. You put me through it, and you
00:55:23.840
were trying to put her through it, and I told my husband that I would gladly pay that money. I said,
00:55:27.480
if the judge came back in your favor, I wouldn't lie. I would admit that I consciously stood up for
00:55:31.720
somebody who didn't deserve to be smeared. I'm proud of that. In fact, I would have hung it up on a wall
00:55:37.400
and showed my kids that money isn't everything. Doing the right thing is. So maybe all of that could
00:55:44.420
rank somewhere as you're ranking worst decisions that you've ever made. No, probably not, right?
00:55:51.640
Probably not, because you are just a malignant narcissist. You admitted to me that you had a mental
00:55:57.900
break in Hungary. They didn't sleep for days, and you never really, Jeremy, have admitted to yourself
00:56:04.340
that you haven't come back from it. You really have not come back from it. You are not okay. Your plan
00:56:09.780
here to redeem yourself was to try to destroy my life. You blame me for what you did.
00:56:18.340
In the process, honestly, the only thing that you've been successful at is ruining your own life.
00:56:23.180
So what I think that you're actually suited for, Jeremy, is to return back to Texas, where you grew
00:56:28.640
up, that key you wear around your neck, that bent key that you wear as a necklace every day. For those
00:56:33.840
of you who don't know, that key, which the company is named after, Bent Key Ventures, is a key that he's
00:56:39.480
kept around his neck for 28 years from his hometown, and it unlocks a playhouse theater where he once
00:56:47.460
performed on stage. I think that that's where he should return. He's best suited to go back to Texas
00:56:53.900
to quit playing pretend in the real world and to resume his playhouse acting. How's that? We'll be
00:57:02.480
right back. All right, you guys, very quickly, I want to remind you about American financing, because
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and things are looking shiny. All right, top comment from last episode. Michael writes,
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calling her assassinated husband's memorial an event of the century is a new form of grief that has never
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been seen before. Yeah, I, like I said, I'm done making excuses after she got caught red-handed
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and everything I'm learning from the employees right now. Like, she was very much involved in
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a lot of the PR stuff. She, I assumed everyone was just doing things and she was gathering herself
00:58:50.140
and she was like at home in the fetal condition. Nope, she was in the office every day. And she was
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making informed decisions alongside Stacey Sheridan and this Marina Minas, who I need to take time to
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look into, who apparently, by the way, ironically, watches my show every day in the office.
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Turning Point USA watches this show live in the office and then fired someone for screenshotting
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the show in the office. I don't even, I don't comprehend that. I'm going to be honest with you.
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Okay, let's get into some of your comments from today's episode. Kiki writes, Candace,
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what do you mean Erica said she was watching your show in the beginning and learning? Her husband was
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just murdered and she was waiting to tune into your next episode. She did not call and ask you for
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every detail. Be for real, Erica. She thinks we are dumb. Again, yes, in retrospect, I,
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I realize and have since learned that she did tell me a lot of fibs during our sit down. And the
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biggest one for me is just the consistent throwing Andrew Colvett under the bus and then me learning
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that Andrew told the truth from other people. I'm getting, I was getting played. I was getting
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played and I will own the fact that I was not in a position emotionally to contend with her acting in
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that manner at all. Obviously I knew Charlie personally. So I was not, look, this story was
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not objective for me. This has been a subjective story. I was genuinely in grief and my sister was
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correct when she said, you have suffered a trauma. I couldn't eat. I couldn't sleep. I had, when I
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went to Wyoming, it was, I was starting to go through the phase of bargaining and hoping that Charlie
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really was alive, like trying to find the part, the pocket of the internet that would tell me that he
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was actually secretly alive. And I realized that that's not a good place to be in and I need to
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take a break and to deal and get to the stage of acceptance. And I don't think, I don't regret that
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it took me a while to even look at what other people were saying. I think I needed to believe
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that these were his real friends and that everything in his life was, I don't know. I don't know what I
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needed to believe. I was going through my own process. I wasn't ready. And I am ready now because I
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don't like people lie to my face and I don't like people use a lot of money and PR agents. And I
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just feel foolish to be honest with you. And then send me a cease and desist is crazy. Like you don't
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have a right to investigate what happened to Charlie. You don't have a right to ask questions about his
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murder because our contract covers everybody and their mamas. Goodbye. Again, unconscionable.
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Something I could not have known when I signed that agreement to tour with Charlie Kirk is that
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he was going to be publicly assassinated. And the people at the organization that he built,
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okay, many nights of no sleep, were going to be colluding to obscure things from the public.
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That's a pretty strong thing that I could not have known. I just, I'm so, this whole contract stuff,
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it's fake. It's gay. It's over. We left it in 2025. Okay. The lawsuit stuff to basically say,
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I'm allowed to be immoral because you signed a contract and didn't perceive how I could be
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immoral is just done. You're welcome. It's over. It's done. And the people that do this should just
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be called that at all times. Honor no contracts where people are trying to make it so that they can
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treat you immorally. Honor no contracts. There's no way a contract can be written that says I'm
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allowed to be a jerk, an asshole. I'm allowed to lie. And I'm allowed to abuse you because you sign
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a dotted line. Blow them up. Blow them up. Okay. I'm sorry. No, this is the time where I make a
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statement that I did tell the priest that I would chill. And I am going to talk to him. Actually,
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I realized it's been a probably like seven weeks since I've spoken to him. I'm going to get on
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that. Anyways, I call Shia writes season three, episode four of everyone grieves differently. Oh
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no, you got that wrong. It's we're in season eight. I think actually seven sheets writes boring makes my
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skin crawl all the more reason we're here watching you and have been long before the tragedy of Charlie
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Kirk and continue to be God bless you. Our Joan of Arc. I will keep dropping these and more if we can get
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two hour episodes with Candace. But I love what we get. So appreciate it. That's a tremendous
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donation. I really appreciate you guys. And yeah, I just I don't know. Maybe something did break
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inside of me with this whole Charlie Kirk thing. But it is it is the audacity of all of it. These
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they're such bad people. That's what I want you to know. They're such bad people. I have not even
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told you 10 percent of what Jeremy Boring put me through. I mean, and yeah, every time it was
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we'll bankrupt you. We'll bankrupt you. If you tell anybody what we're doing to you,
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we'll bankrupt you. You're you're basically allowed to write contracts to abuse people
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because normal people, when they're signing these agreements, you don't you don't think
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that it's being written so that they can abuse you. You're like, oh, we're just agreeing like
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I'm going to show up to work, do the right thing, be honest with you, have a communicate
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with you about what I'm going through and depart amicably. But within the world of politics
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entertainment, that's not what they're doing. And that's what I want to use my platform to
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let you guys know. That's not what they're doing. They're trying to control you. And
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it's very sinister. And I could not stay silent with them trying to pull that move on Brett
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Cooper. Like I was I'm good. OK, my kids will be proud of me one day. I'm good.
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Jeannie Thompson writes, Erica kept referring to Charlie as still directing Turning Point
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USA rather than acknowledging that Turning Point USA is an organization established and
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led by God. That is a cult. Yes, I agree with you. It's very.
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Something about all of it, even keeping the mic and putting it in a cage and setting up his dinner
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at a fundraiser. There's something that feels like a seance to me. And we couldn't control him
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when he was alive, but we can control him now that he's dead and we can control you and tell you what
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he would have wanted. How can you debate that? This is what he would want. He's dancing in heaven.
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How can you debate that? If you do debate that? Well, sorry, guys, because now his widow is saying
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that. So how dare you? That there's something about that that I really don't like. And that
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something is all of it. I like none of it, actually. Ms. Mint Juleps writes, keep it going.
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Team Candace, take it to the max. I'm with you all the way. Thank you so much. Julia writes,
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I'll never be too far right to want the truth, even if it goes against the narrative. Christ is king.
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The non-elitists are proud of you. It's crazy to go backward and to realize I tweeted Christ is king,
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not at anybody. And they went ahead and tried to spin that into an anti-Semitic attack. But we're
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not going to acknowledge these very Semitic Palestinians being mass murdered. They really
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are trying to convince us that words hurt more than mass murder. That's just crazy. That genuinely is
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just so objectively crazy. And they do this without even flinching. They're like, whoa, did you see what
01:05:44.920
Candace Owens said on her podcast? That's pornography. The sexual rituals going on in Israel,
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the people that are standing up and nested talking about how they're being raped and the politicians
01:05:54.000
are all in on it. Israel blackmailing people using sexual blackmail, the mass murder of the
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children. That is not pornography. No, not pornography at all. Israel, once upon a time, what was it in
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2002? Taking over the television, television sets in Gaza and blaring out pornography to use it as a
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spiritual weapon against them? That's, no, that's, that's God. That's what God mandated. That's what
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he wanted. Crazy. Son of a guppy writes, odd. How could you even put these sentences together after
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the trauma of what had just happened? Most people would still be curled up in a fetal position,
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drooling and barely responsive. Yes, I totally agree with you. I agree that all of it's unusual
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at best. We were then told it's supernatural, that it's like, that is what God can do in your life.
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And this gets into a larger argument about why people need to be ordained as priests and you
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shouldn't be listening to people turn biblical proverb into bubble gum. It's a Snapple fact that
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you could just insert it anywhere. Well, Bible talks about grieving. And so that could mean selling
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t-shirts or something. Christians are different. It's supernatural. It's like, that is literally why
01:07:11.260
you should consult a priest on these batters. You are, not everybody can just wake up and be a pastor
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because they just turn it into their own thoughts and their own opinions and the people that they like
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and don't like, and then throw in an occasional biblical verse and then go, ha, can't touch this.
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Biblical verse, can't touch this. No, we're touching this and we're saying what you're telling us is
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wild. We have a spiritual intuition. It feels wrong because there is something that's wrong.
01:07:40.620
It's very obvious something is wrong with Turning Point USA. It's kind of been obvious since Charlie
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got assassinated. So we're going to go ahead and acknowledge that all together. One, two, three,
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something is not right with Turning Point USA. Okay. I'm glad we did that. It feels like the first
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step of many. Anyways, tomorrow, speaking of Palestinian lives that have been lost and my
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radical transformation, which was no transformation at all. I actually have not changed any of my
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opinions. I've always thought murdering children is wrong. Why I'm pro-life. Bassem Youssef was a
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major reason that I woke up and The Daily Wire denied my request while I was there to have him on my show.
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Well, guess what? This is not their show anymore. It's my show. And so Bassem Youssef is going to be
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joining me live, and we're going to discuss a variety of topics. But I'm really grateful to
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the people who spoke out early on and awakened, I think, a lot of us to the horrors of what's going
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on in Israel, and he's one of them. So we'll see you guys tomorrow.