Candace Owens - April 21, 2026


Lori Frantzve’s Gun Deal？ Terryl’s Footage Faux Pas. ｜ Candace Ep 328


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00:00:15.520 All right, you guys.
00:00:16.780 Happy Tuesday.
00:00:17.520 I'm happy this Tuesday because Blakey Neff.
00:00:20.820 Blakey Neff is back in the foray, my arch nemesis.
00:00:23.840 Also my best friend.
00:00:25.020 Super fan of the show, by the way.
00:00:27.920 We definitely have to send him some kit.
00:00:29.600 I was asking the producers, what should we send him? We should maybe send him some
00:00:32.840 maca hats. Make America Christian again. I don't know. We got to get a package over to Blake because 1.00
00:00:37.800 he had things to say again on X. He's always having a little mini spiral about our show.
00:00:43.620 We're going to get into it and I will debunk him. He called me a liar. That is a bold choice of
00:00:48.760 words. Bold accusation coming from anyone at Turning Point USA. But first, I got to tell you
00:00:53.540 guys about this YouTuber. You've heard about her before on this show. She made a rather shocking
00:00:58.600 discovery regarding the footage that Terrell took down mysteriously. And lastly, we received a
00:01:06.060 stunning tip about Erica Kirk's mother, the lorry. The lorry and gun sales. Is everybody in the
00:01:14.660 industry? What industry is it that everybody is in? That's what I want to know. Everyone but me,
00:01:18.580 apparently. Welcome back to Candace.
00:01:28.600 So I say this often, but I should always repeat it.
00:01:37.660 There are a lot of people who have contributed to this crowd-sourced investigation into Charlie Kirk's death.
00:01:44.080 YouTubers who do not get nearly enough credit for their amazing discoveries.
00:01:48.320 One such YouTuber is Nisi, okay?
00:01:51.180 Nisi is the one that brought us, if you recall, the investigation into the strange text messages that Erica shared with a then 15-year-old Jillian.
00:02:01.520 We then picked up on her investigation and added to it.
00:02:04.320 That's how the crowdsourcing works.
00:02:06.080 And we were recently inundated with emails to our tips box about another discovery that Nisi has made, this time pertaining to the camera behind Charlie's head.
00:02:16.240 We revealed that footage, a never-before-seen footage, the one that Terrell raced, the footage
00:02:21.980 that he raced to take down just minutes after Charlie was struck. Literally, I think we estimated
00:02:27.980 about four minutes after Charlie was struck, after he recorded himself. Amazing. Still,
00:02:33.480 we should never forget that none of the Turning Point employees called 911. Not Mikey, not Blake,
00:02:42.120 not Terrell. That was not their instinct. Terrell was perhaps the worst, almost worse than Mikey
00:02:48.060 walking away, would be Terrell recording himself in a selfie video. Anyway, Nisi discovered that
00:02:55.200 the camera footage, which was shown to me on FaceTime, was likely edited. And she supplied
00:03:02.240 some very compelling evidence for this. So I want you to take a listen to what she shared.
00:03:07.600 In this footage that Terrell has selectively shared with Candace, we can't see the ground where Charlie had been sitting.
00:03:17.700 You're probably thinking, okay, so what? Well, I'll tell you what. Actually, I'll show you what.
00:03:25.640 On February 28th, 2025, the American Comeback Tour did a stop at Florida State University, and here is the back camera shot.
00:03:34.080 On March 3rd, 2025, the American Comeback Tour did a stop at the University of Southern California.
00:03:39.920 And here is the back camera shot.
00:03:42.380 Here's San Francisco.
00:03:43.880 Here's San Diego.
00:03:45.560 Long Beach.
00:03:46.820 Boise, Idaho.
00:03:48.120 Washington State.
00:03:49.300 Do you notice a pattern?
00:03:50.520 The camera is a wide-angle camera and was always used as such.
00:03:55.940 However, in the footage that Taro has selectively shared with Candace, you cannot see the ground.
00:04:02.100 So either that day at UVU, they had changed things up and they had zoomed in the camera so that you couldn't see the area around Charlie or Terrell had zoomed in after the fact and he was showing a cropped version of the footage to Candace.
00:04:19.260 Either way, it gives the impression that they're hiding something.
00:04:22.640 nisi nisi nisi gosh i'm just i'm so happy that you brought that forth honestly common sense
00:04:31.840 there were so many things that i was saying around how bizarre that footage was but i should have
00:04:37.360 looked at it and said what is this shot actually where is this shot going to and you know what
00:04:41.700 nisi i was actually remarking to my team that it certainly seemed to me that terrell may have at
00:04:49.340 the very least edited the video. And the reason why is because, well, first and foremost, it took
00:04:55.360 him two days to get back to me after our initial conversation. So just to remind everybody, I
00:05:01.340 phoned him on September the 17th because the footage started going viral of him taking down
00:05:07.040 the camera. I recognized him. I didn't think anything of it. I was like, oh, maybe there's
00:05:10.700 a reason, common sense reason in my head would might have been like, oh, maybe the cops asked
00:05:14.940 him to. The feds were on the scene a little too quickly that day, actually. And then he got all
00:05:20.400 weird. He was hesitant, coming up with all sorts of excuses, why he couldn't show me the footage.
00:05:26.160 He didn't want to put the footage out there. He wanted to protect the footage. He wanted to
00:05:29.420 protect Erica. By the way, in retrospect, even that's weird. Like, why right away are you speaking
00:05:34.520 to Erica about the back footage? Like, why does she care? There's so many more important things.
00:05:39.800 Why do you care? Especially since she said she never watched any footage. Parking that aside,
00:05:44.940 That conversation I had with him was on the 17th, and I was like, you're being weird, you're being weird, you're being weird.
00:05:49.660 And then on the 19th, he sort of broke and said, okay, no, let's just get on the call.
00:05:54.320 I'm happy to show you the footage.
00:05:55.440 So I think in those two days, he had figured out a way to show me the footage, which he thought would sort of assuage my suspicion.
00:06:05.740 And I can add to your investigation, Nisi, by showing you the beginning of our FaceTime conversation, which I had initially cut because he wasn't showing me the footage, but it was me and him speaking.
00:06:18.500 And I did see him open the file on his computer desktop.
00:06:22.340 So let's take a look at that early footage of the beginning of our conversation.
00:06:30.080 And so you can see, obviously, this is FaceTime.
00:06:31.840 you can see that he is opening up the file and this is how it begins. Now I'm going to freeze
00:06:40.400 frame that for you again because there are people who know more about cameras and whether you're
00:06:45.420 hooking things up. This is what that looks like there. We had wondered ourselves, it seems to be
00:06:52.720 a Sony camera and Sony camera certainly does have, if you put in the SD card into your computer,
00:06:59.560 it will open it's obviously your drive will appear on your desktop and then you will see
00:07:05.520 they automatically label a folder clip okay that's just our basic research feel free to dispute me
00:07:13.640 guys who know much more about cameras and but it is my suspicion the thing that's kind of now
00:07:19.960 making me go what the heck it is my suspicion that that YOLO drive that you're seeing on the
00:07:27.520 left-hand side is likely what he named his SD card. And what is wrong with that, and I'll tell
00:07:33.440 you why that is my suspicion, what is wrong with that is Terrell shouldn't have the SD card.
00:07:41.680 The thing that you have me thinking, I'm going back now and revisiting again, I told you I
00:07:46.560 suffered effectively a brain trauma that I couldn't come back from having watched Charlie
00:07:51.880 die and then trying to process why I was suddenly fighting people that I thought were his friends
00:07:56.020 in the media and things that were being said about me.
00:07:59.360 Now I'm thinking how strange it is
00:08:00.880 that Terrell didn't just say to me,
00:08:01.940 I don't have the footage
00:08:02.780 because the feds were on the ground
00:08:04.720 and of course they confiscated it.
00:08:06.580 Like I took the SD card out
00:08:08.640 because it had to be given to the feds.
00:08:12.240 Terrell and I are speaking on the 17th and on the 19th
00:08:14.760 and at no point in our conversations
00:08:16.760 does he say to me, I don't have the footage
00:08:20.140 or I don't have the SD card.
00:08:22.740 I'm specifically asking him why he removed the SD card.
00:08:28.060 That was the nature of our discussion.
00:08:29.480 Why did you remove the SD card from the camera?
00:08:34.140 Why did you take the camera down?
00:08:35.580 And his answer was because he wanted to protect Erica.
00:08:40.800 He didn't want Erica to see the footage.
00:08:42.000 He had a conversation with Erica.
00:08:43.800 He didn't want her to see Charlie dying again.
00:08:46.460 Then he says, when I say, okay, well, can I see it?
00:08:48.440 He doesn't say, oh, no, obviously I had to then give it to the feds.
00:08:50.860 At no point did he say to me that he gave the SD card to the feds.
00:08:57.640 That suddenly feels very relevant.
00:09:00.320 That's insane.
00:09:01.280 That is totally insane.
00:09:02.220 So now we have a situation where Charlie's phone, we've learned, was not given to the
00:09:07.280 feds.
00:09:07.960 That should have been kept by the feds.
00:09:09.440 That should have been secured by the feds.
00:09:11.320 That should have been like Tyler Robinson's phone or Lance Twig's phone secured by the
00:09:16.600 feds.
00:09:16.980 Um, and now we know that they also, again, on the basis of my conversation with him and what I believe that we are looking at there, that Terrell was able to take that footage back to Arizona. He's opening that on his desktop in Arizona, back in Scottsdale. That doesn't make sense to me. And it is problematic.
00:09:37.680 What we know happens thereafter
00:09:38.960 because we were playing devil's advocate,
00:09:40.720 me and my producers,
00:09:42.240 and Ashley had suggested,
00:09:43.500 well, maybe that's the reason.
00:09:44.740 Maybe the feds didn't know that Terrell had it.
00:09:46.900 Maybe they found out on your show
00:09:48.580 that Terrell had the footage
00:09:50.180 and that's why they started putting pressure
00:09:52.220 on Justin Strife to call your husband
00:09:56.660 and see if you had recorded the footage.
00:09:59.260 Maybe it was the first time they were aware of it.
00:10:00.560 And I said, well, no,
00:10:01.760 that can't be the circumstance.
00:10:02.760 They couldn't have found out on my show
00:10:04.520 because the entire reason we were covering it
00:10:06.780 and why I was reaching out to Terrell was because it was viral. People saw him taking down the
00:10:11.400 footage and suddenly it was viral. Don't you think they would have noticed all of the cameras right
00:10:16.240 away? They would have known we're missing back footage. There was a camera right there. First
00:10:20.620 thing a police officer does. Is that a camera? Yeah. Can I get the footage to that camera,
00:10:24.440 that camera, this camera? Why did the feds not take the footage from behind, Charlie said?
00:10:33.700 Why did Terrell have it at all? 1.00
00:10:35.660 So yes, Nisi, I agree with you
00:10:38.520 that it is very likely that he zoomed in on that footage.
00:10:43.200 And I believe the reason he did that
00:10:44.760 was to obscure our view of the ground.
00:10:48.680 And the question we have to ask ourselves now is why?
00:10:51.620 What was on the ground
00:10:52.880 or what happened on the ground within that view?
00:10:55.840 What did that camera capture specifically
00:10:58.740 that is worth hiding?
00:10:59.540 It has to be something that would solve Charlie's murder.
00:11:03.760 That's my position, and I'm going to stick to that.
00:11:05.760 I think that Tyler Robinson's defense team, you are watching, and I hope you are, because
00:11:10.880 we're helping you a lot here, that's the footage that you need to get.
00:11:14.980 That footage should not be zoomed in.
00:11:16.660 She's correct.
00:11:17.220 Turning Point has that footage, and it should show you the entire ground area, what happens,
00:11:24.600 what the security guards do after Charlie goes down.
00:11:30.620 And also the aftermath,
00:11:32.740 it may go a very long way
00:11:34.600 in terms of capturing Charlie's true assassins.
00:11:37.940 Again, that's my opinion.
00:11:39.980 And regarding that setup,
00:11:42.120 I actually told you guys early on
00:11:44.260 that I had tabled with Charlie for years
00:11:47.200 all across the United States,
00:11:49.660 beyond the United States, actually.
00:11:51.280 Events from the East Coast,
00:11:52.800 all down the East Coast,
00:11:53.780 all the way to Hawaii, and the entire setup was strange and new. Charlie, oddly, is on a chair
00:12:02.420 that is upon a platform that seats him above the table. Why? Why? Why was Charlie on a platform
00:12:12.000 and then put on top of a chair on top of the platform above a table? Look at this. Why? He's
00:12:18.280 under a tent and then put up onto a platform. We were never on platforms when we tabled.
00:12:25.740 Charlie was six foot five inches. He didn't need help seeing above a table. This is not Ben Shapiro
00:12:31.200 on tour, okay? It's Charlie Kirk. He was always here. When and why did they start building this
00:12:39.400 weird little platform stage for Charlie? We'll show you again, slowing down the stills from
00:12:44.140 Nisi going back. Here's a platform still. You can see Charlie on this random platform too,
00:12:50.380 but again, he's still below the table, right? Platform three, okay? That you can see they're
00:12:56.820 just building a little mini stage maybe to level the ground. Still seems strange to me,
00:13:00.440 but then he's on this platform. Utah, he's just way above the table. Why? Why were they doing this?
00:13:07.120 And even I think something that is even stranger is the camera shot behind Charlie's head. Why?
00:13:14.140 who needs it how is that angle at all necessary in a Q&A segment what are you getting from that
00:13:21.060 angle actually I'm seriously like who was like we need an angle behind Charlie's head I told you
00:13:25.420 that was brand new and it feels a bit to me like they were intentionally boiling the frog and now
00:13:31.520 in case you're not from America you're not familiar with that expression boiling a frog
00:13:36.060 boiling the frog is just a metaphor uh for doing something slowly like think of literally the idea
00:13:41.860 of a frog. And the idea is the frog, if you if you just boil it slowly, will stay in the pot
00:13:47.100 right until it gets hot. And but if you put them right away when the pot is boiling, put the frog
00:13:52.600 into the pot, the frog will jump out. It's just a metaphor, though. You shouldn't try that with
00:13:57.300 frogs at home. It's just a metaphor for how you won't react to dangerous changes if they happen
00:14:03.140 slowly over time. So we looked back and I said, when did they start putting that camera view?
00:14:06.780 And we couldn't find a time before late 2024 when Charlie is tabling and there's a camera
00:14:14.200 directly behind his head that appears to have arrived in 2025, right?
00:14:20.760 And I want to know if we're correct.
00:14:22.640 I'd like the internet to figure out precisely when this weird view became desirable for
00:14:27.900 turning point events because we noted it just as Niecy noted it as a part of the American
00:14:32.980 comeback tour.
00:14:34.040 2025 suddenly they start boiling the frog he's got this this weird camera behind his head like
00:14:40.620 like people it was in hot demand please we must know what's going on behind charlie's head
00:14:44.820 you want to know charlie's eyesight you would put a camera to the right of him to the left of him
00:14:49.000 and the we checked the tour before we said okay what was the tour before the american comeback
00:14:55.640 tour in 2024 that was his brainwashed tour and here are some examples of the tabling look at this
00:15:01.800 Here is Charlie, March 7th, 2024.
00:15:04.320 There was no camera behind his head.
00:15:06.400 Here is Charlie on September 5th, 2024,
00:15:09.820 the Brainwash Tour, the University of Wisconsin.
00:15:13.320 We go to the next one.
00:15:14.140 There is no camera behind his head.
00:15:17.060 And here is Charlie at Northern Arizona University
00:15:20.060 on October 15th, 2024.
00:15:22.640 Again, the Brainwash Tour.
00:15:24.140 There is no camera behind his head.
00:15:28.300 Why the change?
00:15:31.240 Why were we doing something new in 2025? Why is there so much brand new? I told you never in the history of every turning a point event that I did from 2017 all the way through 2024 did we have a camera behind our head.
00:15:48.980 i want answers i want answers that also seems to have arrived specifically with the big sponsorship
00:15:57.900 deal with why refi as well i'll also state that um these are things that should be explored great
00:16:03.980 job nisi i want to switch gears here to travel back to late fall 2016 just before the election
00:16:12.280 the big election donald trump versus hillary clinton donald trump is traveling all throughout
00:16:17.600 the country, giving us one-liners about Hillary Clinton. The media does not think that she can be
00:16:22.400 beat. And I know what you're thinking right now. You're thinking, but what were Lori Fransfay and
00:16:27.900 Erica Kirk doing at that time? Great question. That is exactly the right question, my friends.
00:16:34.080 And I have an answer, a very strange answer, okay? So Lori and Erica's stepfather, Larry,
00:16:40.360 who we have not done really any research on Larry Guinta. I probably should have included that in my
00:16:46.820 Erika series, but what they were doing at that time is they were trying to get in on a gun company.
00:16:55.860 A gun company. Now, I don't know how this just keeps happening, but these are the facts, okay?
00:17:01.740 So Lori came into contact with a couple of guys who had filed a patent. So they had a patent
00:17:08.920 pending that was for a unique gun. Think about the story that we told you with Fold AR. First,
00:17:14.760 AR that's going to fold. I want this in the backpack of every school resource officer.
00:17:21.220 That's Corby Hall's story. In comes Victor Marks. I'm interested in this. And what's the conclusion
00:17:26.980 of that? Victor Marks wants the patent for Israel. Let me remind you, Victor Marks wanted the patent
00:17:32.700 for Israel. He wanted to push Corby Hall out and get him a deal so that he would sell the patent
00:17:39.500 to Israel, okay? Similarly, Lori Fransfey and Larry were interested in a gun-pending patent,
00:17:46.620 and this was going to be a gun that was and is today the only now patent-approved weapon
00:17:53.560 that features interchangeable calibers, okay? So you can put different rifling in each of
00:18:01.820 the cylinders. It's essentially a convertible weapon, so to speak, for those of you who are
00:18:06.960 like me and not up on your weaponry. That is incredibly unique to be able to do that. They
00:18:11.100 accomplished that by extending the cylinder. The patent today is actually approved. Anyway,
00:18:17.200 the story goes that Lori, remember we had showed you that she had gone to this expo,
00:18:22.240 this exposition up in Salt Lake City in Utah. And this is when she was hawking her G-Tech,
00:18:29.240 G Tech Industries, her EMP Doomsday Tech, showed you this, and I'm going to say allegedly here,
00:18:38.540 but I am telling you the truth, allegedly this time she and Larry meet some, the guys that
00:18:45.380 have this patent pending and they offer to introduce these guys to their angel investor
00:18:51.580 for G Tech Industries. So they set up a dinner back in Scottsdale, Arizona. Again, this is going
00:18:57.780 to be late 2016. At this dinner, you have Lori, you have Larry Guinta, and the two would-be company
00:19:05.720 owners. Again, I want to be clear, the gun was not yet manufactured. So they were there to discuss
00:19:11.400 only patent, a potential deal for it, and what they could offer in exchange for it. The answer
00:19:18.540 being, we have access to government contracts. Of course they do. Yeah, we know that. Lori was
00:19:26.060 doing deals with the government for her EMP tech. Was she going to do the deal with the government
00:19:32.460 for guns? I don't know. But I'll tell you what my favorite part of the story is. My favorite part of 0.98
00:19:38.800 the story is who strolls in unannounced at this dinner to sweeten up the potential deal. None
00:19:46.520 other than Erika Fransbeck. You could just see it. Arizona's beauty queen arrives fashionably
00:19:54.160 late to the dinner, all dolled up, looking very glamorous. So the story goes, she's very familiar 0.96
00:20:00.160 with everybody in the restaurant. She's a little bit of a hometown hero. Hello, hello. Oh, hi,
00:20:05.360 hair blowing in the wind, right? And then she takes her seat at the restaurant table and dives 1.00
00:20:12.660 into this discussion, this business discussion about selling or potentially acquiring a piece
00:20:18.980 of the company doing this little exchange. And you just have to love it. To me, her and her mom
00:20:22.880 or like Bonnie and Clyde.
00:20:24.120 And I'm told that during this discussion,
00:20:26.480 Erica then drops the fact that she has,
00:20:28.900 and her mother, her mother says,
00:20:30.160 oh, she's, it's not known yet,
00:20:31.820 but she's just now dating a guy
00:20:33.420 that has some very big political connections.
00:20:37.640 They're just a couple of months into dating 0.94
00:20:38.760 because that sweetens the deal a little bit. 0.90
00:20:40.360 Oh, you got this beautiful girl.
00:20:41.440 And now you realize this girl has access
00:20:43.420 to someone who is a player, right?
00:20:46.920 And the person in retrospect
00:20:49.260 thought that she was talking about Charlie Kirk,
00:20:51.180 but she actually wasn't at this time.
00:20:52.880 According to our timeline, Erica was dating Cabot Phillips. Cabot Phillips did have, he was on Ellen DeGeneres. He had a little thing going with his brothers early on. And so that was to suggest, he never said the name, but she's got a political boyfriend who's got some connections as well. And look, she's Miss Arizona, right?
00:21:16.360 Well, fortunately for the men that were involved with the patent, nothing actually ever materialized from that meeting, but it sure is interesting that Laurie France Bay was interested in the weapons industry, particularly in the unique gun industry.
00:21:37.080 guns, unlike guns that had ever been made before industry, the kind of industry that Victor
00:21:43.940 Marx was into. And this person, apparently, the person that was involved with this patent,
00:21:51.980 eventually got into a little lawsuit with Victor Marx. I don't know who one happened to dig it up.
00:21:57.180 I'm still researching that. But it's just a tangled web that we keep weaving.
00:22:05.060 our faith leaders. Remember, Erica says she learned everything that she knows
00:22:10.840 through the steadfast commitment and the faith of her mother, that her mother sort of like was
00:22:16.060 just his faith woman. I looked into Lori. I feel differently about her. Okay. So if she learned
00:22:22.380 everything from her mother, that should terrify you. That should absolutely terrify you. It
00:22:27.760 terrifies me in the retrospect. Man, I wish I had done a deep dive on Erica when Charlie had met
00:22:34.360 I just wanted him to find a girl settled down. I knew how much he wanted that. And so I just was 0.67
00:22:42.100 too much of the wing woman. But this just can't keep happening, you guys. The pattern that I am
00:22:50.160 seeing here, guns, trafficking, sex trafficking, charities, always charitable. Erica always
00:23:01.400 somehow just floating around. Something ain't right here. Something is not right. And as I
00:23:07.840 mentioned to you guys before, as we started to see people always like, you know, one degree away
00:23:13.300 from Jeffrey Epstein, one degree away from Israel, sometimes less than that, one of the things that
00:23:19.980 just strikes me as really compelling is to consider the timeline. Jeffrey Epstein goes down
00:23:27.720 in 2017, right?
00:23:30.880 Did Jeffrey Epstein went on in 2017?
00:23:32.940 I think it was, 2017, maybe 2018, actually.
00:23:37.420 And suddenly, like, we're supposed to believe
00:23:39.580 his entire network crashed and burned
00:23:42.000 and everyone was like, okay,
00:23:42.720 it's a global trafficking network
00:23:44.180 that began with weapons.
00:23:45.760 I keep reminding you guys, Jeffrey Epstein,
00:23:48.120 we speak about the files
00:23:49.800 and we talk about the blackmail
00:23:51.140 and we talk about the sex,
00:23:52.980 but Jeffrey Epstein began his career
00:23:55.040 in weapons trafficking.
00:23:57.720 The Iran-Contra scandal. How do we know that? Because a former Mossad agent testified to that effect that he was introduced by Robert Maxwell and brought into the Iran-Contra affair. They've tried to bury that connection, but you can certainly found it. We did in our Epstein series, thankfully because of the journalism of Xavier Proussard over in France.
00:24:19.080 Don't forget that.
00:24:20.480 I believe, like I've said multiple times, that Jeffrey Epstein's network reemerged,
00:24:25.800 and I think it reemerged in the not-for-profit world.
00:24:28.220 I'm speculating, but I'm also really good at puzzles,
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00:24:36.500 that faithful people can truly just be interested all in the exact same thing,
00:24:42.420 human sex trafficking.
00:24:44.680 And I got to tell you,
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00:24:50.280 Anyway, we are going to take a brief break
00:24:52.040 and then I'm going to tell you all about Blakey Neff
00:24:53.800 and his shocking attack against me on X.
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00:27:48.120 Okay, so Blake Neff, you know, he has a talent of sorts.
00:27:53.200 He has a way of just always sort of leaning into a conversation when actually nobody cares about his opinion
00:27:59.560 and never responding when we make pretty big claims.
00:28:05.800 you know, he responds to nothingness. And then we're like, hey, Blake, while you're here,
00:28:09.880 could you answer our question about this big thing, this big topic that we have brought to
00:28:15.820 the forefront of the American conscience? No. So yesterday he just took a random shot at me.
00:28:20.480 And here's what he said. It was kind of shocking that he said this, actually. He wrote
00:28:23.400 in the opening of her show today, which thank you for watching my show. 0.96
00:28:29.180 Candace claims, quote, liars on the Internet have falsely claimed that Tyler Robinson's family
00:28:34.800 turned him in, and that they have falsely claimed his parents, quote, recognized grandpa's
00:28:40.260 gun on the news, end quote, which is impossible, she says, since no photos of the gun were
00:28:45.520 released before Robinson's arrest.
00:28:47.420 This is a remarkably precise way to be dishonest, because when one simply bothers to read the
00:28:52.940 charging document, one sees that Robinson's parents did not recognize the gun.
00:28:57.440 They recognized photos of the suspect, which were released by the FBI as looking like their
00:29:03.900 son.
00:29:04.800 Only then did they move on to suspecting that the rifle was a match.
00:29:08.700 And at that point, the FBI had already announced that they had found a high-powered bolt-action
00:29:13.220 rifle.
00:29:13.980 We know Candace has seen all of this.
00:29:15.540 It's worth asking, why would she so deliberately misrepresent the evidence?
00:29:20.200 So he quotes me as saying, liars on the internet have falsely claimed that his parents recognized
00:29:25.640 the gun.
00:29:26.620 And so I think what's going on is they change the story so much, like I say, the FBI is
00:29:30.960 making it up as they go along, that they forget the lies they told us yesterday.
00:29:34.800 They forget what money they've spent on influencers to influence us about certain topics or certain facts yesterday because then they moved on like, oh, no, we can't do that anymore. And that is what Blake is succumbing to here. So I just obviously tweeted right back at him.
00:29:49.200 the headlines. There were many headlines which said exactly what I shared, like this one in the
00:29:56.140 Daily Mail. Tyler Robinson's father realized his son was Shooter after seeing family heirloom in
00:30:03.680 media reports. And then I had shared with him another one that was on MSN, that he had recognized
00:30:09.280 the rifle. And by the way, since you're speaking about the charging document, which I have read
00:30:15.160 many times over and over again. That's exactly where they were getting it from. Not what the
00:30:19.640 police officer said, but from Tyler Robinson's. And by Tyler Robinson's, I mean the Fed's very
00:30:26.880 sloppy messages that they put together. This is the text message, Blake, that people used to deduce
00:30:34.840 that his dad might have seen the rifle on the noose. He wrote, my dad wants photos of the rifle.
00:30:42.900 He says, Grandpa wants to know who has what.
00:30:45.920 The feds released a photo of the rifle, and it is very unique.
00:30:49.420 He's calling me right now, not answering.
00:30:51.300 Well, if you read that message, Blake, it kind of sounds like the reason his dad is
00:30:55.560 calling him is because the feds released a message of the rifle, and it's very unique.
00:31:01.220 He doesn't sound like he's saying it was a generic release, which it was.
00:31:05.480 So that's why this didn't really make sense.
00:31:07.660 It was fair for the media to conclude on the basis of those messages.
00:31:11.480 that his dad recognized it,
00:31:14.600 and that's why he was calling Tyler.
00:31:15.920 So I hope that helps.
00:31:16.820 I know it's difficult.
00:31:17.660 Like I said, when you lie,
00:31:20.120 you have to have a good memory. 0.68
00:31:21.220 That's what Judge Judy always instructed to people.
00:31:24.160 If you're going to be a liar, 0.86
00:31:25.340 you better have a good memory. 0.98
00:31:26.580 And you, my friend, do not have a good memory.
00:31:28.600 But while we have your attention, Blake Neff,
00:31:32.920 there was this huge claim that we made on the show
00:31:35.480 about a week ago,
00:31:37.200 where I said that I spoke to multiple donors
00:31:40.540 who tell me that the audio that you released
00:31:44.480 of Charlie Kirk saying,
00:31:46.120 I appoint Erica Kirk to be the CEO and chairman
00:31:50.460 if something ever happens to me,
00:31:51.840 they claim that he never said that in Aspen.
00:31:55.640 They claim Erica actually was in Aspen,
00:31:57.480 even though she didn't attend the event,
00:31:58.960 and that Charlie definitively never said that on stage,
00:32:01.220 nor did he say it in a smaller dinner that took place
00:32:05.160 with about 10 to 12 people is my understanding.
00:32:07.760 That's a pretty big claim I'm making there, Blake.
00:32:09.740 I'm saying that I have proof, I have at least testimony, from donors, your donors, that say that they believe that that is AI.
00:32:20.400 And you have testified to the public, or Erica rather, certainly explained to Megyn Kelly, you guys were the ones that introduced this, that you have the video.
00:32:31.320 And yet you declined to share the video.
00:32:33.640 What a beautiful sight that would have been.
00:32:35.800 Charlie Kirk opening AmFest.
00:32:37.960 a video of him saying I appoint Erica and then Erica Kirk walks out wow there wouldn't have
00:32:46.480 been a dry eye in the place Blakey Neff so why didn't you guys move to show that that doesn't
00:32:53.120 seem like you guys that seems out of the ordinary you guys have I mean you you put up a tent
00:32:59.400 that a recreation of a tent that Charlie had died under for selfies you're it kind of feels like if
00:33:04.620 you had the video you would have shared it and instead you got angry at me when I suggested that
00:33:07.740 you should share the video. And you accused me of being a psychopath with a gun or a knife,
00:33:15.140 rather, on a subway. And that's why you couldn't share it. Okay, you don't need to share it with
00:33:18.560 me, Blake. You should share it with people in the world because it just makes sense to do that.
00:33:24.300 So yeah, while we have your attention, could you respond to that much more severe allegation
00:33:31.600 rather than just responding to me telling the truth? Could you actually respond to me
00:33:37.000 asserting that your own donors think that you may have used AI and then lied to the public
00:33:43.400 because you wanted them to accept Erica in the role of Charlie Kirk? Any kind of response would
00:33:49.940 be great here. You could say, that's not true. The donor's lying. He did say it. We do have the
00:33:53.760 video. We just want to keep it in a vault. I wouldn't recommend you say that. That would be
00:33:57.720 another stupid lie. Well, we kind of did say that. But yeah, if you could just respond to that, 1.00
00:34:03.920 that'd be great. Anyway, on to greener pastures, I guess. Greener pastures. Laura Loomer is trending
00:34:10.640 for a tweet that she directed to me yesterday that upsets a lot of people. It upset them because
00:34:16.200 it was just so shockingly dark and demonic. This is the tweet that I am referring to that's trending.
00:34:22.260 It's directed to me after yesterday's episode. She said, God hates you, at Real Candace O. It's
00:34:28.220 why he gave Charlie to Erica and why you didn't even get to say goodbye to him. God hates you. 0.95
00:34:34.080 Look in the mirror and internalize how much God hates you. We all hate you. Humanity hates you. 0.99
00:34:38.820 You are irredeemable. And this caused a reaction across the internet. I think like 6,000 people 0.99
00:34:44.180 replied to that tweet alone in a ratio. And I think I was going, why are people surprised by
00:34:50.100 this? And I realized they don't know who Laura Loomer is. And I think maybe these people don't
00:34:56.700 take us literally when we say that Trump, that's one of his top advisors, is surrounded by people
00:35:03.740 who are quite literally in need of an exorcism. I'm not saying that for dramatic effect. I am
00:35:09.240 saying literally he is surrounding himself with people that are, I think, demonstrably demonic,
00:35:15.540 right? That's what people were so, that's just demonic. That's very straight. It doesn't hurt
00:35:19.920 anybody's feelings. It makes me uncomfortable to be around you. That seems like you, you know,
00:35:24.360 worship Baal. That's why you would say something like that. That's a very weird thing to say.
00:35:29.000 And that's kind of what I'm trying to clue you guys into. That is why Laura Loomer has become
00:35:33.340 significant, because we can look at her to understand the erraticism of Donald Trump,
00:35:38.780 our president. He doesn't seem like the same person. He seems as though he has been possessed.
00:35:43.860 That's his top advisor, according to her. Multiple times a day, she speaks to him on the phone. One
00:35:48.520 of the first phone calls he made after attacking Iran was to Laura Loomer. And so it was important 0.99
00:35:54.500 for me to break down who she is and to make sure that you lower your expectations when it comes
00:35:58.640 to people like her. Like I said, her goal is to harm people psychologically by lying, just by 1.00
00:36:05.600 lying openly all the time. And I want you to know that in her own words, she has admitted to her
00:36:12.320 addiction, which she has described as cocaine-like, to spectator because she'll say, oh, it doesn't
00:36:18.040 matter this is this this person's lying take laura in her own words um in an article that was done
00:36:23.240 by the spectator here which was called the tale of laura loomer which was published in 2019 where
00:36:29.920 she just described having anxiety and depression she wrote i had really bad anxiety and depression
00:36:35.460 and then i started to basically deal with depression by doing cocaine i was never a drug
00:36:40.080 user before but i was using cocaine to kind of deal with it laura was 23 years old she continues
00:36:45.820 there were phases when I wouldn't sleep for three days straight. And one morning I woke up and drove
00:36:50.460 myself to a cliff and it was cold and kind of snowy outside. It was February. I tried to kill
00:36:55.060 myself, like legitimately tried to kill myself, okay? So you can understand why she's not allowed
00:37:00.520 to own guns. Suicide is nothing to mock, but it is something that she uses as one of her tools 1.00
00:37:06.040 often. She, like I told you yesterday, she makes suicidal threats and there is an aspect of her 0.85
00:37:12.380 that feels very homicidal.
00:37:13.920 I'm not being funny.
00:37:16.540 I'm not trying to be ironic
00:37:18.260 when I say that this is a person
00:37:20.580 who should not have access
00:37:21.800 to the president of the United States.
00:37:24.280 And everybody sees that.
00:37:26.980 And the fact that people reflect and think
00:37:29.660 if something happened to Trump,
00:37:31.460 like I told you, people in,
00:37:33.080 as I understand it, Melania's inner circle
00:37:34.600 have said this,
00:37:36.540 that she would be the most likely person
00:37:38.360 to harm Donald Trump.
00:37:39.220 And what would be crazy in the retrospect
00:37:40.940 is that the whole world would go, yeah, duh. Duh. Like if she harmed a person, everyone would look
00:37:48.880 around and go, every single sign was there. 50 states you can't own a gun in, things that you
00:37:57.320 have said and shared about yourself, threats that you have made to other people, the manner in which
00:38:03.020 you attack children. Like she wants my children to suffer, as she said yesterday, she wants my
00:38:08.220 children to suffer and live on the streets because she doesn't like that I'm against what Israel is
00:38:15.420 doing. She's attacking my lawyers. She's attacking my in-laws. That is the kind of person who is
00:38:20.720 dangerous to themselves and to others. And so how did she deal with her cocaine addiction? If you're
00:38:25.640 wondering why it seems like she tweets every five minutes and like she's deep in the throes
00:38:29.240 of a manic episode, well, she explains in this article, I have nothing to lose now. And by the
00:38:35.760 way, this is in the context of her having lost her Twitter access. This is, I have nothing to
00:38:43.680 lose now, so it's liberating, she says. I became addicted to social media. I kind of lived off of
00:38:48.940 the adrenaline. It's not a very healthy lifestyle to live because when you stop using cocaine,
00:38:53.260 for example, you learn to cope with anxiety and depression other ways. I pretty much substituted
00:38:57.800 my lows for adrenaline rushes on Twitter. When I got banned, I was honestly having withdrawals.
00:39:04.780 Okay.
00:39:05.860 So it's a drug for her. 0.68
00:39:08.260 Like Twitter is a drug for her.
00:39:09.520 And that's why she tweets to the wee hours of the morning saying crazy things spiraling in these manic episodes.
00:39:15.440 And so I just want to make that clear to you.
00:39:17.660 These are the people, when you look at what Donald Trump is saying, what he is doing, and why he does not seem like he is steady right now.
00:39:25.760 Like he does not seem like there is a sane voice.
00:39:27.640 He went from having the advice of people like Charlie Kirk and radically flipped that to people like Laura Loomer and Paula White Cain.
00:39:41.720 OK, this is a real clip of of of Laura Loomer when she did Alex Jones a few years ago.
00:39:48.600 Take a listen.
00:39:50.100 But what are they doing? I want to know what people are actually going to do.
00:39:54.020 My life is ruined. Does anybody understand how ruined my life is? I'm sick of it. I don't want
00:40:01.760 to listen to people tell me that I'm a conspiracy theorist. They don't know what it's like to be me.
00:40:07.040 My life is ruined, Alex.
00:40:11.560 So forget Laura Loomer. The question you should be asking yourself is, is Donald Trump mentally
00:40:18.020 fit to be president. If he makes a conscious decision to tweet out that Tucker Carlson and
00:40:24.720 Megyn Kelly and Candace Owens are mentally ill, while he invites into his inner circle advice
00:40:31.840 about what he should do to Iran, a person like Laura Loomer, who, like I said, when we're calling 0.99
00:40:37.020 her crazy and we're talking, this is a clinical diagnosis. It's not an opinion. It's not funny.
00:40:41.100 We're not using the word loosely. This is a clinical diagnosis. I personally think that
00:40:45.880 Trump needs an intervention. I don't think the back forth, when I see the eroticism of the way
00:40:51.400 he tweets, it's almost as if he's given access to his truth socials, to people like her. There is
00:40:59.560 there's just there's an eroticism here that feels dangerous for our country, right? Like he doesn't
00:41:04.880 care anymore that he's gotten to some point of desperation, whether he is functioning under
00:41:10.460 duress, whether he is being blackmailed, I don't know. What I do know is this is not the Trump that
00:41:17.500 we had for the first four years. And even if you have hated him from the very beginning, if you
00:41:22.420 love the idea that the Republican Party is at war with each other, if you're still functioning within
00:41:27.480 the left-right paradigm, you should pull yourself away and actually have a broader sense of concern
00:41:34.280 for the country and want there to be actually an intervention. You should pray for Donald Trump.
00:41:40.080 You should want there to be a sane voice in the room.
00:41:43.300 At the moment, we're not getting that.
00:41:46.480 And so that's what I just wanted to say
00:41:48.000 is don't be surprised at what Laura Loomer is doing.
00:41:51.200 Be surprised that she has the ear 1.00
00:41:52.980 of the president of the United States.
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00:44:39.140 there is absolutely no way, no way that a judge can allow this to move forward if the defense
00:44:44.640 hasn't been given full disclosure. Yeah, it is going to be very interesting. I know a lot of
00:44:50.880 people had looked into the judge and thought that it was very suspicious that he was appointed by
00:44:55.520 Governor Cox and that he didn't have the background and the experience for a case of this size. There
00:45:01.800 was something new about him. I never covered it. This will be the tell. Like I said, a continuance
00:45:07.800 is just, it's basically like common courtesy in court. Like unless you're, I could see if you're
00:45:13.440 like three years into something and you're like, no, no, I want this to move on with it. But seven
00:45:18.020 months into the highest profile murder case in JFK, this is nothing. This is nothing to ask for.
00:45:24.740 Obviously, with the amount of stuff they have to look through, they dumped 600,000 files on them in March. And you're arguing this? That does not sit right with me. It should not sit right with you. And if this judge does not grant this continuance after effectively ensuring them that when they rebut it immediately to putting a date on the calendar because of this very thing.
00:45:46.040 remember the defense said, let's not put a day on the calendar until we have our discovery stuff
00:45:50.220 and we'll have a better idea. And the judge said, oh, no, it's all good, you know, par for the
00:45:53.960 courses. We can always bump it down the line. If that judge now does a 180, if the court does a
00:45:59.240 180 and is like, actually, we can't bump this anymore because Erica has asserted her right as 0.53
00:46:03.380 a victim, we'll know. We already know. You know, we don't know, no, but we know. But I think that
00:46:12.980 at that moment, we will know, know what's really going on with this judge and we will be locked in
00:46:19.380 and covering it. Second top comment is from Faith Central. She wrote, a class action lawsuit should
00:46:25.840 be filed against the FBI on behalf of Tyler Robinson due to the FBI withholding evidence
00:46:32.100 from the defense. Do you know what? I have thought about that. I have thought about what are the ways
00:46:37.520 in which we can compel information on the outside?
00:46:41.840 Like, should we learn their way
00:46:43.260 where everyone's like just suing and ceasing and desisting?
00:46:46.200 And should we learn their tools
00:46:48.680 for compelling that sort of information?
00:46:51.140 It's a conversation worth having.
00:46:52.800 And it's probably a conversation that I should have
00:46:54.960 since I have so many lawyers all the time.
00:46:57.760 I might as well toss them a question about
00:46:59.560 what can we do to get answers, you know,
00:47:01.820 from these organizations, from these people
00:47:04.780 to get them to answer the basic questions
00:47:07.320 that the public deserves to know.
00:47:08.480 Because they, like I said,
00:47:09.900 they brought the public into this
00:47:11.700 when they made the decision
00:47:12.540 to assassinate Charlie Kirk publicly.
00:47:15.820 Okay?
00:47:16.700 They don't get to then tell us,
00:47:18.080 oh, well, you shouldn't mind.
00:47:20.340 On that note, I do want to say
00:47:21.960 and put out in APB,
00:47:24.440 I just have this deep question,
00:47:28.800 a deep consideration
00:47:30.560 about what happened to Charlie's body.
00:47:33.460 And I don't really buy the idea,
00:47:35.800 the reaction Erica had
00:47:37.180 when somebody asked her a question
00:47:39.500 or why Fox News asked her that question.
00:47:42.180 When they said, oh, like, she's like,
00:47:44.640 can I have one thing for my kids?
00:47:46.920 And they asked about where he was buried.
00:47:48.440 And it was like, one thing for your kids.
00:47:49.580 Girl, you took us into the casket.
00:47:51.300 Why do you care?
00:47:52.380 Like, highly unusual.
00:47:54.720 It would be highly unusual for people to be going around
00:47:58.500 wanting to, like, dig up a casket
00:48:00.560 or the person is dead.
00:48:03.920 They're gone from this world.
00:48:04.640 there does tend to be some basic reverence that people have. And if there's not, hey,
00:48:09.440 guess what? You have a ton of money. You could get security to monitor for a little bit until
00:48:15.080 it's out of the public conscience. And I had wondered because I learned early on that she
00:48:20.040 had moved the body a couple of times. And that doesn't sit right with me. There was no reason
00:48:24.940 to do that. And I am wondering if they cremated Charlie's body. That's a yes or no question.
00:48:30.360 You don't need to tell me where Charlie's body is, but did you cremate him? Yes or no?
00:48:36.780 And so if you have information pertaining to that, if you have a yes or no answer to that,
00:48:43.900 and at first his body was taken to a place that was a burial plus cremation services,
00:48:51.360 and then it was taken somewhere else, and then it was taken to a third place,
00:48:55.380 and I am just wondering whether or not Charlie was ever buried
00:49:01.920 or whether or not he had a Catholic funeral mass
00:49:04.860 and then he was cremated.
00:49:08.580 I think that's a fair question
00:49:09.820 given where we are at in this investigation.
00:49:12.000 It's a yes or no question.
00:49:13.220 Was Charlie Kirk cremated?
00:49:16.160 He was.
00:49:18.020 We are just, we'll be in a whole new place, guys.
00:49:21.620 We will be in a whole new place
00:49:22.600 If you have information pertaining to that, more tips at CandiceOwens.com.
00:49:30.260 More tips at CandiceOwens.com.
00:49:31.900 We will protect your identity entirely.
00:49:33.740 You can trust us.
00:49:34.580 We have protected our sources from the very beginning.
00:49:37.040 We still protect our sources.
00:49:38.460 There has not been anyone that has been outed as one of our sources.
00:49:41.980 And if I was compelled to testify, I wouldn't because this matters to me.
00:49:46.240 And I want to know whether or not Charlie was cremated.
00:49:50.260 I find her reaction to be very strange, actually.
00:49:52.600 I don't think it was for her kids.
00:49:53.600 I don't think she does anything for her kids.
00:49:55.880 Just looking at everything, being frank,
00:49:58.040 I don't think the priority for Erica is her kids,
00:50:00.700 where he's buried.
00:50:02.300 That doesn't feel right.
00:50:04.040 Anyway, getting into some of your comments
00:50:05.900 from today's episode,
00:50:07.500 keeping faith with Father Joseph writes,
00:50:09.260 Candice, I have footage that could change the investigation.
00:50:11.560 DM me.
00:50:12.440 Email it to us.
00:50:13.400 I'll look out for that.
00:50:15.100 More tips at CandiceOwins.com.
00:50:17.880 Thank you.
00:50:19.460 BigfootBeliever writes,
00:50:20.140 when the investigation began,
00:50:21.180 you mentioned that you felt that the shot came from the left of Charlie. I wonder if that is
00:50:25.520 visible in Terrell's footage, which is why he Zoomed. I have a big test tomorrow. Took a break
00:50:31.940 to watch you. I need a bit of luck. Good luck on your tests. Study hard, but don't study too hard
00:50:36.960 because you get to that point where you're actually not even retaining any information.
00:50:40.580 And it's best to study right before you go to sleep and then wake up fresh and a lot of
00:50:44.900 information will come to you. Alaska Dog Lady writes, everyone wants to make fun of us Catholics
00:50:50.600 until they need an exorcism i'm looking at you larry yeah that she is very much in need of an
00:50:57.640 exorcism that's the only thing that can explain that the places that her mind goes and she doesn't
00:51:03.480 understand that that's not like a normal person doesn't get there just weird you don't get there
00:51:09.660 you don't want to harm kids you don't want kids to like need kids i want our kids to live on the
00:51:14.580 streets it's like okay man you're making everybody uncomfortable here uh spyro writes
00:51:19.860 Loomer's whiteboard notes are so sad. Blank days until election. Stay focused. No drama. Hit goals.
00:51:26.200 Victory. I need a registry for all her supporters. I want to know which stupid people are even more
00:51:30.740 stupid behind closed doors. Yeah, I mean, her whole life is Donald Trump. And she if you go 1.00
00:51:36.760 back and look at her tweets, it's not you don't say like I love like she's like I'm in love. I
00:51:43.240 love it's it's giving fatal attraction. And I Trump will knock it out of that with his hands
00:51:49.340 clean. You don't get to make deals with devils and then think that you're not going to suffer
00:51:52.920 down the line, right? The devil always collects. You want someone to do your dirty work, but be
00:51:58.420 aware that they know your secrets. You don't think she's recording you, keeping a file on you. Like
00:52:03.480 that's, that will be something one day. And so the Trump family made a big mistake welcoming that in.
00:52:08.520 Unstable is unstable. Mentally insane is mentally insane. Ney writes, I'm wondering if Cash Patel's 1.00
00:52:15.780 country singing superstar girlfriend will write some songs and perform them for us at the show
00:52:20.380 trial of a century. I'm wondering if she's maybe helping with the text messages, the fed slot
00:52:25.860 messages. You know, there was this line that they added in now that people have been going through
00:52:31.420 the affidavits. You know, they had some ellipses at various points, the messages that we got,
00:52:35.920 and they've added sentences. And one of them was, I hope, I'm not kidding. This is in Tyler
00:52:41.360 robinson's messages i hope that uh pooch referring to the dog he said the canines were here
00:52:47.360 i hope that pooch has a bad sniffer that's what tyler robinson wrote to lance we're supposed to
00:52:54.040 believe that and i feel like that could be a country song i was in a country that had bad
00:52:58.620 sniffers like i don't i feel they were just kind of writing some music when they did those text
00:53:06.600 messages. It's possible, right? It's more plausible than what they're selling us right now.
00:53:13.380 That's how I feel. And I feel like Kash Patel right now suing, is it The Atlantic, because they
00:53:20.600 said that he's a drunk? I actually feel like The Atlantic's argument should be that that makes him
00:53:25.820 look good, right? It's much more damaging and defamatory and mortifying to your brand to think
00:53:32.900 that you're doing this in your sobriety, right? Drinking would be a great excuse for like an FBI,
00:53:38.760 the head of the DOJ, coming out and being like, my girlfriend's a sensational country. That's 1.00
00:53:44.020 really mortifying. But if you're drunk, like, oh my God, what did I say last night? Oh my God,
00:53:51.160 I was crazy. I didn't mean that. I was just drunk, guys. I was crazy. Oh man, none of that's real.
00:53:57.580 So I think he should go with that. I think he should go with excessive drinking. The Atlantic
00:54:02.860 should argue they were trying to make him look good
00:54:04.920 and offer an explanation for the things that he has said
00:54:07.720 and the things that he has done
00:54:08.980 and that the average person finds that to be good for him.
00:54:13.520 That'd be better than him really in his sobriety
00:54:16.860 doing some of these things.
00:54:18.560 Anyways, that's my opinion.
00:54:19.840 I'm sticking to it.
00:54:21.240 Matthew writes,
00:54:21.800 so Blake Knapp is brave enough to reply to you on X, 0.68
00:54:24.000 calling you a liar, 0.90
00:54:24.680 but won't come into your studio to prove you're a liar. 0.89
00:54:26.720 Yeah, that doesn't sound childish and cowardice at all.
00:54:29.440 Man up, Blake, LOL.
00:54:31.140 Look, he doesn't have to come to my studio.
00:54:32.860 Tech is just so easy. We can just appear on the Charlie Kirk show. He can just appear on the
00:54:39.140 Candace show. I would welcome the conversation, particularly about the AI. I don't feel these
00:54:45.880 donors are making that up. They were pretty shocked to hear that it was the Aspen little
00:54:52.580 retreat thing that it came from. They're certain that Charlie never said it. I would reply if I
00:54:59.140 Turning Point USA. We'll see. Tarkaya writes, Laura Loomer is very dangerous, especially if
00:55:06.020 she has been given access anywhere near the president of the United States. Yeah, he's just
00:55:10.060 playing with fire. Play, play, play. And then it burns down your whole house. I don't know. I'm not
00:55:16.700 his other advisors. So you just have to let happen what is going to happen. And we'll see. We'll see
00:55:23.560 what happens anyway you guys i will tomorrow we will have an interview for you with corby hall
00:55:29.840 yes i am very excited about this obviously you know victor marx uh did not want to join with
00:55:34.940 corby hall so we kept our appointment with corby hall and you'll be able to hear his story about
00:55:39.960 what victor marx had to say victor marx is saying all these demands i'll do it i get to bring my
00:55:45.320 okay no okay you can just join the show victor marx be normal i'm gonna let corby tell his piece
00:55:51.140 and present his evidence and then you can similarly tell your piece and you can present
00:55:55.840 your evidence. You don't get to bring your wife and list all of these terms of engagement. Just
00:55:59.860 I'll give you a dial in. How about that? I feel like that's probably the most appropriate thing
00:56:05.520 given some more stuff that I have learned about you and Jimmy Barbecue. Guys, this is going to
00:56:12.380 sound crazy, but Jimmy Barbecue is watching the show. I don't know what to say. I'm a big deal
00:56:17.880 in Haiti. That's what I want you guys to know. I'm a very big deal in Haiti. I got some boys out in
00:56:22.260 Haiti. So nobody better mess with me, okay? Nobody better mess with me is what I'm going to say. So 0.99
00:56:27.840 you just be careful what you're saying at this toddler park, Cabot Phillips. You just be careful
00:56:33.920 because I'm out of my boot and I got some people in Haiti, okay? And they'll take care of business 1.00
00:56:39.220 for me. We'll see you guys tomorrow.
00:56:47.880 We'll be right back.