In this episode, we re-unite with our good friend and former co-host of the show Candace Owens to discuss a wide range of topics. We discuss how Candace got her start as a podcaster, why she became a public enemy number 1, and why she thinks the war in Ukraine is a genocide.
00:00:30.640And you weren't even controversial then compared to how you are now.
00:00:34.180So I think I've always been controversial simply because I think for myself.
00:00:38.980That in and of itself is the most controversial thing I've realized that you could possibly do.
00:00:43.720And when you think for yourself and you're not controlled by a corporate entity, that just terrifies them because there are pre-approved ideas.
00:00:53.500And so I became enemy number one when I defied like the BLM stuff.
00:00:57.880And now it's kind of along the same lines.
00:01:01.480I'm just not towing the Zionist talking points or whatever.
00:01:05.580And so I'm enemy, public enemy number one again.
00:01:07.500So the last time we talked and that was the subject we talked on.
00:01:10.920But now things have changed and you have this war in Israel.
00:01:15.780It's not war, but we call it a genocide.
00:01:32.520I don't support BLM because it pigeonholes black people into groupthink.
00:01:37.860And the entire BLM incorporated accomplished absolutely nothing for black people other than the destruction of black neighborhoods, which I foresaw.
00:01:47.020Obviously, with the amount of money that they were raising, it was so obvious that none of it was going to go towards black people.
00:01:52.580But they were encouraging criminality and making black people feel justified in committing crimes as if it wasn't going to ultimately harm their lives.
00:02:01.520You know, you don't just get to burn down Wendy's and go, well, this was in the name of George Floyd and think that that's not going to impact the rest of your life.
00:02:09.700And so I just saw, I think for me, media simulation, psychology is what I'm super fascinated by.
00:02:15.800And groupthink, group psychology is arguably the most fascinating, like the madness of crowds and what people will believe and what people will say because a bunch of people are saying it.
00:02:26.880Mm-hmm. Yes, COVID. That was the last time we talked was post-COVID.
00:02:35.320But that's really interesting. So when the war broke out, I thought, oh, this is part of the old world because we're talking about this very small demographic and a small war.
00:02:46.240Yeah. In the scale of like what COVID has done, it seems like a smaller thing.
00:02:53.480So when you talk about Palestinians and we say, okay, like, I don't know what the number is now, I would say maybe like 150,000 people, you know, I don't know, thousands of people are under the rubble and you can't really account for how many, what the death toll is right now.
00:03:14.020But we're speaking about this in the same time where you've had like 20 something million people die, which is also a genocide, you know?
00:03:31.660And I feel like talking about who that is, perpetrating that, is the issue. You can't. You can't talk about Bill Gates or what the thought is, you know, and who, because this is, this is, it's very Western. It's not Middle Eastern. It's a Western thing.
00:03:54.140What do you mean by that when you say it's a Western thing?
00:03:57.480Well, I just, I just thought that the concept of the UN, like the last time we talked about it, we were talking about the concept of how COVID said we're all one and we're in this together.
00:04:11.580That concept. It was sort of like this Western ideology of how we're going to go forward in humanity, that we are all one and we're going to have like one world government and we're going to be able to like regulate everyone to work in this thing.
00:04:27.980And that, that the West is almost like the beacon or the leadership of this thought, you know, and that other things will fall into it.
00:04:38.500And I think maybe the last time we met, the Ukraine war might have just started.
00:04:45.400So that seemed like that was the only war that was happening, but that was really a fight for this Western kind of leadership to come forward or come through for who that's going to be, you know, and it's not, and Putin had to fold into this.
00:05:01.200And that was, and that was, that was where we were at, you know, but now in like a, a bigger sense, you see, like in America, there's crazy stuff happening.
00:05:12.800And there's also like an awakening that's happening in America about where people stand and where like the Christians stand, Jews for Jesus, the Jewish people, the Zionists, like there's so many categories now happening within America, you know.
00:05:29.980And then now you have election time, you have just two party, like blanket segregation of the left and right within all of these other categories.
00:05:43.380So yeah, I've just been canceled again this week.
00:05:45.620So because, because, you know, not fully grasping this concept of what is going on, because I, obviously I just recently got back into the US, I had to kind of land running to understand what's going on.
00:06:05.100So you've got Jill Stein, who's a Jewish, the only Jewish who's pro-Palestine.
00:06:10.920Then you have RFK and Trump joined forces, which I thought, oh, that's two against one, which means that he's going to win because that's like more people voting for Trump because there's just like he's, RFK's just pulled in this demographic of people like me, who I thought, you know,
00:06:34.400So I understand him more than Kamala Harris and Trump, you know, and I was like, oh, he seems like somebody who cares about health and I'm making all this EMF clothing and he seems like a really chill person.
00:06:50.400And then, so yeah, I said that and I got, I got canceled for tweeting it, but this is why I wanted to come on and get a bit more insight into where are you putting all this, you know?
00:07:06.040You know, I have largely abstained from politics, this political cycle, because I don't think that there is clear messaging.
00:07:14.340And what you're talking about, I think, is what the American people are feeling, which is there's a lot of confusion.
00:07:19.140And you have this sort of rare insight into Hollywood.
00:07:22.440Obviously, I absolutely hate Hollywood.
00:07:26.220I think it's a pagan culture of creating stars in the galaxy and teaching people to worship these stars.
00:07:32.840And I've done a lot of study into the background of Hollywood and have really learned that it was, it was quite literally designed that way.
00:07:38.300It was designed as a demonic force to be able to control people and control their behavior.
00:07:43.760And what's fascinating to me, though, is that on the outside, what they're trying to sell to people is that they are the most accepting, loving, love is love.
00:07:54.040We absolutely must unite in Hollywood and issue statements against Donald Trump.
00:07:58.600Like, this is why you're being canceled again, because God forbid you say Donald Trump might win, because they've kind of turned him, I guess, into like a symbol of hatred.
00:08:08.500Like, we're good people because we hate this man.
00:08:11.120But then to have that happening at the exact same time where virtually all of Hollywood is silent on the Palestine-Israel issue, that fascinates me.
00:08:23.300That absolutely fascinates me, because that to me signifies a fear, because they were rabid when Trump ran the first time.
00:08:31.560I mean, even Taylor Swift did this documentary where she, like, fake cried to her parents and said, like, I need to use my platform to speak out, because, like, if he gets elected, women, this, women, that, whatever she was saying.
00:08:43.220Then you have this objective reality on your phone, on X, right?
00:08:50.800This Elon Musk frees the bird, and I'm seeing every day these Palestinian children being blown up, okay?
00:08:56.820And I'm hearing the sound of a mother wailing as she's holding her child that died because a bomb was dropped in the middle of the night.
00:09:09.860I'm reading articles from Doctors Without Borders who have been in many wars and offered their services, and one of them wrote this piece and said, this is not a war, this is an annihilation.
00:09:21.140And he described the kids not having morphine, getting, using a civil war tool to saw off their limbs.
00:09:30.140And I look at Hollywood, and they say nothing because they're fearful that speaking out on this issue might get them canceled.
00:09:38.500What is the world to make of that sort of a cowardice, that sort of a hypocrisy?
00:09:46.300All in, speaking about Trump, because God forbid you can't get your abortion, right?
00:09:52.120Nothing on the Israel-Palestine issue.
00:09:55.240I think that's to do with, it's power, right?
00:10:03.740And in order for you to gain self-power, you have to go through some sort of a sacrifice.
00:10:12.120And you, what you just went through, is sacrificing the Candace Owens that was.
00:10:20.220And then you had to go through the door to become the thing you are now.
00:10:24.940And if you say Christ is king, and you take the shot, and you get canceled, and you get pulled from everything, and you're rejected by society, but then God can strengthen you and help you build your own thing.
00:10:39.720And a lot of people are scared to go through that.
00:10:42.300So Kanye had to go through it, but unless he sacrificed himself in the version he was already, and I feel like I had to go through that years ago, you know, and unless you're prepared to go through that and go through the fall, you don't come out knowing the truth, right?
00:11:01.560And a lot of people are hanging on to their versions of what they're told they are.
00:11:07.200And it's the same as me saying, hey, Trump might win.
00:11:11.640And a lot of people wrote to me and messaged me instantly saying, you're killing the version you are, you know?
00:11:20.320And I'd already moved on, but everyone to everyone to majority of the human beings, I'm this refugee, immigrant, immigrant.
00:11:31.560I'm, you know, pro, I should be pro Kamala Harris because she's Tamil, and, you know, she's all for women.
00:11:39.940And this is like fed to me, and it was just like, you've got to do this, this is the person, this is your person, you know, like how dare you go up against this person?
00:11:49.540But I think that's like, I feel like that's the reason, like people find a coat, you know, and they just want to hang on to it.
00:12:03.300And, but, but like we said, this is like a moment of transformation, and a lot of people are going through the transformation.
00:12:10.000A lot of people are going through the awakening of like, how to deal with it, because there's loads of, there's like a few things that confuse me.
00:12:19.380One is, you know, becoming Christian in this time, you know?
00:12:25.360And if I'm listening to like a Christian service, and the emphasis is always on Israel, you know, and how it is the chosen place, and all of the characters in the Bible are from there.
00:12:42.220And I understand like, why that's such an important topic to the American Christians.
00:12:50.500And even my mum, who's been a Christian, you know, she's, she's been on her pilgrimage to Israel and things like that.
00:12:57.980And I just find it really, a really important place to get to where we discuss who the Palestinians are, you know?
00:13:10.100And I think like, I was listening to Kim Iverson, where she was saying, oh, you know, Palestinians are also original people of Judah.
00:13:16.840And it's true, like if you do DNA tests, you'd find that there's been this mixing.
00:13:23.200And both of these places, of course, they've been in the same demographic for thousands of years, there's going to be mixing.
00:13:29.340And the blood is going to be the same almost, you know?
00:13:33.740And they, they're able to annihilate Palestinians, because they say, that's the Philistines, you're supposed to kill them, you know?
00:13:43.540And, and I think that's like, it just brings it back to really understanding the scripture.
00:13:49.820And, but who wrote it, when it was written, what is the version you're reading and all of these things, which I think you're trying to talk about.
00:13:58.600But, you know, we just have to talk about it in this time where there's all this other confusion built around it and people cancelling every step of the way, when actually these conversations are really important.
00:14:11.400You know, for me as a, as a Christian now, I need to figure that out, you know, and what you were saying is that, um, the fact that Israel might be like a concept, you know, it's like a belief, it's anybody who believes in Christ, that's Israel.
00:14:29.520And that it might not necessarily be a geographical spot, you know, where you're like, I'm going to locate it to this position on the GPS and then annihilate everyone in it.
00:14:41.660And whoever lives in this GPS location now is Israel.
00:14:47.080And so it's really like, I think a very, uh, interesting conversation.
00:14:52.800I know we started on Hollywood, but, you know, the, they're sort of like.
00:14:59.520I don't know that they're sort of in a system that is, it's, it's reluctant to do the transformation, but the transformation is happening regardless.
00:15:13.380And especially, I think, um, in the next four years, even Trump has to confront that.
00:15:22.660Even RFK has to confront that, you know, the leaders.
00:15:26.520And, and if you say Kamala Harris, who has been in power, you know, she's, you see the way she has to deal with it and the way she's dealing with it, you know?
00:15:38.160So it's not even like, what is Kamala going to do?
00:15:43.440And so that's why I think it's a really important and interesting, uh, conversation because even the leaders of America are going to go through this.
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00:17:29.000And people started coming to the show and if they could create something, they realized they could draw crowds and people would sort of worship these people.
00:17:37.060And then talking trash people, like middle of nowhere, Midwest, they kind of created this carnival experience for them.
00:17:43.180The next thing you knew, these people were stars.
00:17:56.860And it's really interesting because they have the tunnels and they talk about this kind of crazy debauchery and people being in tunnels and stuff underneath Hollywood in the 1920s.
00:18:10.280And when he starts sharing how they really built it up, I am so committed to the idea that Hollywood is like fully demonic.
00:18:17.060I mean, in terms of them even making sure, like there were certain directors that made sure every single actor and actress that was brought in in that film studio was either a lesbian or homosexual because they wanted that agenda.
00:18:29.220And how many of them, too many of them, were pedophiles as well.
00:18:35.040And they wanted to encourage pedophiles to become stars because then they could control them.
00:18:40.500There was always a system of blackmail, suspicious deaths if somebody spoke out or tried to get out of Hollywood.
00:18:45.980And it was actually reading this book that made me realize that so many of these things that were told to me by Kanye, when he was going through all of that stuff, I was not awake yet to what he was speaking about because it seemed it's so evil.
00:19:02.800When he kept saying to me, this person is an op, this person is an op.
00:19:06.180I'm like, why do you keep when I didn't believe him or didn't understand him, he'd be like, you're an op.
00:19:10.840And I'm like, what are you what do you why do you keep calling everybody an op?
00:19:14.140And then you learn that these people and these handlers have always existed and the system of blackmail always existed and that they would sit down and commit themselves to ideas like I even feel weird now wearing pants, knowing that a Hollywood director quite literally convinced women to all start wearing pants with this woman who was sleeping with men and women, putting her on the red carpet and having her sell that.
00:19:38.480And so it's interesting because Amber Rose was sitting in this chair and I was speaking to her about this and she was saying very much what you're speaking about, that she had all the best intentions when she arrived into Hollywood.
00:19:50.580And then they kept telling her, you have to be this thing like you have to keep selling the idea of being a slut to women like this is what freedom is.
00:19:58.540And she didn't want to do that anymore. Like she didn't feel empowered by taking her clothes off.
00:20:03.440But they were telling her, the handlers, like, if you don't do that, you're not going to book you're not going to get money.
00:20:09.480You're not going to book the covers of all of these magazines.
00:20:12.280And you can think about all of these stars that are kind of in that trap, like whether it's Cardi B, Lizzo, they're kind of telling her her brand has got to be like fat and you have to be empowered about obesity.
00:20:23.380And Cardi, it's like gangster rap and also WAP and all of these things.
00:20:28.820And you see that they're creating this demonic pagan culture, trying to get people to worship things that don't actually fulfill them and make them happy.
00:20:39.760Well, it's more, I think it's more, it's, I say different a bit because of the Hindu, like everyone's great vibes, you know, like if you take Kamala Harris, she's named Kamala, which is the 10th Mahavidya, which is the 10 goddesses and Matangi, I'm, I'm named after the ninth one.
00:21:18.860And before she was incarnated as Sakthi, which means strength, she was called power.
00:21:25.040Yeah, so Sheba had a wife called Parvati, where the word power comes from.
00:21:30.020And she kills herself and then she's born again as strength and he marries her.
00:21:35.200But the way it works is that Sheba cannot destroy, he's a destroyer of ignorance and he cannot destroy without power.
00:21:43.200You know, so each couple, like Brahma and Vishnu, they all have counterparts that give them the strength to be who they are.
00:21:54.740And so Sheba's wife, Sakthi splits into 10 goddesses when she's going out to do her work as this power strength person.
00:22:05.240And so when she splits into 10 goddesses, she covers 10 directions of the universe and each goddess covers a certain place in the compass kind of thing.
00:22:25.360And the ninth one is Matangi, which is the goddess of music, the arts and knowledge.
00:22:50.660So she's also like the goddess of lotuses and bliss.
00:22:55.660OK, so like if you vote for this goddess to run America, you're promised bliss and the bliss in Hinduism right now.
00:23:09.120I don't know if it was the original version, but right now is that is coexistence and everything goes and everyone's accepted and everybody's welcome.
00:23:18.940And the door is open for everyone, which is Kamala's whole thing.
00:24:34.880And that and that kind of ties in because Babylonia and the Babylonians and the Sumerians would have had Hinduism interjected into it in the.
00:25:45.440You know, so there is there is this whole bit that comes from because if you take that other documentary that was banned, the one that Kyrie tweeted, that.
00:26:06.120But it was fascinating because the first half an hour, it talks about how the Tamil language makes up 30 percent of, you know, whether it's Hebrew, Aramaic and all of these languages.
00:26:15.060Yeah, from Hebrews, just so people can know what we're speaking about, Kyrie Irving, the basketball player, tweeted out a link to a documentary called From Hebrews to Negroes.
00:26:27.300He tweeted it absent any commentary and cancel culture came for him like I've never seen.
00:26:33.320And they were wanting him to take six steps to get his life back for sharing a documentary link that he didn't even he didn't do the documentary.
00:27:33.400And that I didn't I don't know Hebrew, but it was interesting to see Tamil words that are the same as Hebrew words or, you know, Sanskrit and Aramaic.
00:27:44.820And, you know, whatever the comparison, there was another one that they compared it to.
00:28:30.920And in South India, they don't use ghee.
00:28:34.700And South India is also a place if you go on Google Maps and zoom into all of the towns in South India, in Tamil Nadu, you'll see it all ends with Ur because it means town, you know.
00:28:47.460So it's like London town, whatever town.
00:28:54.280And so the sesame oil thing, it's like a, if you look at the one that's cultivated in Africa and in the Middle East, it's called Indo sesame, right?
00:29:08.400So all of their sesame comes from India.
00:29:12.540It's the Indian sesame that then was farmed in Africa and in the Middle East.
00:29:17.800So in Africa, they don't have sesame that is farmable.
00:29:23.100So the African sesame is not the one that you can cultivate and extract things from.
00:29:28.040So the one that traveled all the way to the Middle East is the Indian version, right?
00:29:34.240And that's the one they still have now.
00:29:36.420But in the Middle East, when they have the concept to open sesame, it comes from this magical powers of the sesame seed because it was so good for so many things.
00:29:46.700So this was transported, right, from India through Africa, the Middle East or India, Middle East to Africa.
00:29:56.140But there was travel going on for thousands of years.
00:29:59.720And so it's just even just from that, you can tell, yes, language.
00:30:05.940So whoever's doing that is also spreading language and spreading words, you know.
00:30:10.960And so the Indo sesame, I think it's still got the potential to, you know, it's got magical properties to bring about knowledge, you know, if people are prepared to look for it.
00:30:26.960But we've been really, this is what's really fascinating is like, even if you go and watch Joe Rogan and the type of people he interviews, everyone gives like this very like weird disjointed understanding of like the past history.
00:30:44.960But no one will approach the Tamils because we're like the Palestinians.
00:30:51.300And, you know, and even if you look at the latest news about how the hostages were brutally murdered and they had their breasts cut off.
00:31:01.280That is a story that comes from Sri Lanka.
00:31:03.220That it was the Tamil, Tamil tiger fighter women who were gang raped and they had exactly the same story happened to a journalist, a Tamil journalist.
00:33:50.220You're all of those Tamil NGO kids that post my documentary coming out who were helping to help the widows and the war victims and refugees in the camps.
00:34:05.020All of those NGOs, which also, you know, I try to reach out post-documentary and to empower them in some way, all became LGBTQ campaigners.
00:34:19.900And I'm, like, really confused by that.
00:34:23.080Like, how did six years after the war, seven years after the war, the people, the kids are not even out of the camps, yet you want to go and hand out LGBTQ pamphlets to these kids.
00:34:43.680And then, you know, then there's this revival of Hinduism in the Tamil section of Sri Lanka in the north, where they're like, no, this is about regaining identity.
00:34:55.760But it's, like, slightly morphed, you know, where they're like, no, everything is accepted.
00:35:12.620And what you just said is actually so important because, obviously, so much has changed for me since we last sat down.
00:35:18.100One of the things that I truly believe is that all of these wars that we're told about, we're meant to be distracted by Hollywood, distracted by this false idea of progressivism, distracted by our technology, and not realizing that we have demons that are intentionally wiping history, so we don't know where we come from.
00:35:39.680I mean, these are the oldest civilizations in the world, and they're being bombed into oblivion, and there's a reason for that, because these people want to rewrite history.
00:35:48.280There's now neo-historians that are lying about what happened last week.
00:35:51.920Forget about what happened thousands of years ago.
00:35:53.660They're lying about what happened last week, and so they're programming people in the West to perceive these people as less than human, as subhuman, as all terrorists.
00:36:01.920They don't know why it is that we're actually bombing them, but we continue to bomb them.
00:36:06.020Like, we've just been bombing the Middle East for decades, and no one really understands why.
00:37:13.660Well, this is what's interesting about the AI technological elite that want to dictate and tell, you know, humanity how to live and how to like ration the resources and depopulate the world so that we can all just be like regulated into these boxes.
00:37:34.220They're not smart enough to do it and they're not smart enough to code the AI to do it, you know.
00:37:40.720And you can use science and you can use maths and you can say, no, everyone's going to get this much thing and this is how everyone has to live.
00:37:48.760But within that, there's God, you know, and you can have God come through the presence of AI to some extent.
00:37:55.440I don't know how it's going to happen, but maybe, you know, God, God is God.
00:38:01.200But like, you know, like there is, you know, I'm not worried about it, but at the same time, there are, there is arrogance, you know.
00:38:12.660They're not creating going, I'm going to create something that God's going to come through and do something.
00:38:17.420They're doing it to, to be like, no, I am God, you know.
00:38:21.680And, and I think that's, what's really interesting because no matter what religion you are, whether you're Muslim, you know, Christian or Hindu, they all have the same battle.
00:38:38.820Like where it's not, you know, not every single Muslim is a good Muslim.
00:38:45.980You know, there's some people using it to bring in like Satan's thing, you know, like you can get Satan going to the mosque and doing what he needs to do and learn the code and like infiltrate and like lead people the wrong way.
00:39:03.400Same way the Satan does it in church and same way Satan would do it in temples.
00:39:26.700That they then are receiving messages like, you know, you have to go through transformation.
00:39:35.720You have to be prepared to kill a version of yourself and let it go to go with what God's telling you.
00:39:43.140And you have to be having this communication directly with God.
00:39:47.220And in order to do that, you're creating the space and that's what AI should do.
00:39:51.980It should give humans a space and that's what we should use it for to be like, okay, this is my business is being managed with this AI tool because it gives me two hours extra to go and sit in meditation or eat right or like spend time with my family.
00:40:06.440And, you know, like that's what we should be using that tool for, but it's not necessarily to like control humans and to bring about this thing.
00:40:19.900And it's funny on the way here, I watched a movie on the plane called Concrete Utopia and it's a Korean movie.
00:40:27.840And it's really interesting because they, they deal with this and it's about the whole world gets destroyed, but there's only one apartment block that's left.
00:40:35.860And everyone in this apartment block are like, we are the chosen and then all these other humans that survived the destruction all want to move in there.
00:40:47.380And it's about how they're trying to regulate it and all the things that they have to do and ration the food.
00:40:52.800And, you know, they're like, do we evict these immigrants coming in?
00:40:57.020And, you know, it's like everything's based around this apartment block and I, and I think it's really, really fascinating because you can apply that to what's happening.
00:41:06.280And like, you know, it's sort of, you can apply it on a technological level to the AI situation, but it's also like what we're trying to do, you know?
00:41:19.480And yes, I think there is, there is a way to become discerning as a human being, that you can discern truth.
00:41:34.360And, and I think that will tell you because a lot of, you know, I don't want to be Hindu bashing.
00:41:43.620I don't want people to think that's what I'm doing, but I do see the confusion in new age religions, people just, you know, like embracing, like in Hollywood embraces yoga and they're like doing all these sort of like meditations and rituals and praying to certain entities or deities.
00:42:02.440And, and the same with ancestors, when you're talking about ancestors, like my ancestors are Tamil.
00:42:08.780And so when I'm like, I have strength from my ancestors, I got to make sure that then my ancestors are not some random demon pretending to be an ancestor.
00:42:18.440You know, you have to have that discernment because now that I've been more time in Christianity, there's like four realms.
00:42:28.960This is what I've learned and the top realm is eternity, which is the realm that God lives in.
00:42:35.800And then the second realm is everlasting, which is the angelic realm.
00:42:46.320And then you're supposed to only have three realms and the, and the third realm is supposed to be, um, the man, you know, the human realm, which has got time.
00:42:58.280And we're the only ones who have a concept of time.
00:43:01.520And, but in between the human realm and the angelic everlasting realm, there's the celestial realm.
00:43:11.700And if you're talking about any religion, whether you're talking about Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, all of the spirits they talk about, whether Islam talks about jinns, uh, Hinduism talks about deities and Christianity talks about demons and angels, whichever version you're looking at, they all exist in the celestial realm.
00:43:35.780You know, so when you go to Indonesia or you go to a Tamil temple or Indian temple, you'll have a temple that is got like hundreds of deities carved out.
00:43:49.460And, and so that's what the celestial realm is.
00:43:52.640There's when you're praying and you're doing these rituals and when Hollywood is doing these rituals and they're trying to talk to dead people, or they're trying to talk to the God of whatever, you know,
00:44:05.780they're trying to access the celestial realm and, and you can bring these entities down to our space.
00:44:16.520And that's why they're also obsessed with portals and things.
00:44:21.040And we, we, we talk about portals, even in tech, you know, like you have to sign onto the portal and it's going to think about that.
00:44:28.500Yeah, it's like, it's the same system.
00:44:31.220So like, so the portal gives you access.
00:44:34.420And so it's a two way thing and a lot of people want to shortcut and to communicate with these celestial beings and nobody knows if there's good ones or bad ones.
00:44:48.080No one knows how to tell the difference because we have ignorance on this planet right now because of how confused everyone is.
00:44:57.700And through disrespecting ancient old knowledge or bombing it or burning it or rewriting it, there is confusion yielded into our understanding of the celestial realm.
00:45:12.780So like sometimes you're told, hey, when you light this incense and pray to this thing and you're calling the deity of like wealth because you need to get rich.
00:45:22.300You're not, you know, sometimes you're burning an incense saying, I'm going to talk to my, you know, dad who's passed away.
00:45:30.780You're not, you know, it's something pretending because you don't have the discernment to, to tell.
00:45:38.720And so that's like, I think what's going on.
00:45:44.140I think that's why there's a lot of confusion and, and the bad spirits will say, hey, earth needs to be all about acceptance.
00:45:52.700You need to accept everybody because they want to be able to be existing and be accepted.
00:45:59.880And, but now, you know, that celestial realm is also labeled as aliens.
00:46:08.460You know, a lot of humans are like into the idea of aliens and us talking to aliens.
00:46:15.260But I think that's also another version of these like different entities.
00:46:20.360My, my husband thinks aliens are just demons and he is very adamant about that.
00:46:27.320And I think it is interesting because when you look at Hollywood, it's funny because most of the people in Hollywood, when you speak to them, they think that they're atheists.
00:46:35.340I don't believe that there is such a thing as an atheist.
00:46:37.580I think that that's just a term for like, I worship something else.
00:46:43.620A lot of times in Hollywood, you see that it's usually themselves that they worship, which is why they, they say that they're atheists, but they're fully committed to themselves.
00:46:50.880And we were talking about why there's this need, almost, this obsession with holding on to your youth.
00:46:57.340I think the one thing that you definitely cannot hold on to, they're convincing themselves that they can if they go to the right doctor and what they'll put their bodies through and the stuff that they'll inject themselves with to be skinny.
00:47:09.020All of this stuff, you know, when you look at that, you realize that there's a reason the Bible says that there's nothing new under the sun.
00:47:16.480You know, that this is, that this sort of stuff has gone on for a very long time.
00:47:20.900And I really do see Hollywood as sort of this, this pagan culture.
00:47:25.520But you, last time that you were on the show, were speaking to me about your conversion to Christianity, which is fascinating.
00:47:33.840And you were cagey about speaking about that moment.
00:47:37.820I was, I was, I was, because I was told that if you speak about it, it disappears because it's like a thing, you know, you're not supposed to share.
00:47:47.720Like any spiritual things, many, many people have told me, like, when you have a spiritual experience, don't share it.
00:47:53.900But I think with Christianity, what I'm finding out is that you do have to testify and it is about the testimony.
00:48:02.660And you have to tell people that it happened because, like I said, I was a Hindu and I was very comfortable in it.
00:48:11.580You know, like I felt like I was a realized, self-realized person.
00:48:16.080And, and the aim of the game in Hinduism is to become self-realized and, you know, and I was called Matangi and I became a musician against all odds and it all kind of tied in.
00:48:31.540And I was like, oh, I did pretty good.
00:48:34.660And then I have the vision and it's, you know, and, and she also is like the goddess of spoken word and freedom of speech.
00:48:43.940And it's something that I've always been into and, you know, and I, and I thought, well, if that's, if it's truth, you have to share it, you know, and with miracles, when miracles happen, you have to share it or you lose the miracle is what I've heard.
00:49:00.040And so I was like, okay, I better go and say it out loud because it's like, you can't be embarrassed about God, you know, you can't.
00:49:11.520So I, I find that it's a different thing.
00:49:16.180Like it's given me peace, you know, like it's what I've, um, gathered, but also like, it's very like, you don't, you're not, it's not about yourself, you know, you're being used and you just have to accept that and you just have to go along with it.
00:49:33.340But there are lots of confusing things, you know, cause I'm still learning, but it's definitely like, for example, I feel like, especially with America in the next, you know, years to come, more people are going to embrace, um, Jesus again.
00:49:52.940And, you know, and I think the conversation about Messiah, Medi, Jesus will get clearer, you know, about what that is.
00:50:07.380It's like the Americans are not waiting for Medi to come.
00:50:11.100And I don't think the Americans are waiting for the Messiah to come, but they're going to be waiting for Jesus to come, you know?
00:50:17.820And so they have to get that story kind of, I don't know if it just happens and if it's just like willed by God and it's born out of confusion and chaos, but that is happening.
00:50:32.880It's getting played out right now with this, you know, the Israel Palestine situation where I think people are really going to focus on what it is.
00:50:44.180And I, I listened to an African pastor, he's from South Africa and he's always like American people are very gifted, you know, when it comes to, um, uh, Jesus Christ, like a lot of them are gifted with like, so a lot of power to understand and he's always talking about that.
00:51:10.920And so I think that is going to happen and I, and I think if you say Christ is King and you're getting, getting canceled, you know, and, and, and there's like a massive backlash.
00:51:27.200It's really interesting because they also say that when you are about to be having a breakthrough or you're empowered then, and the door opens for you, that's when you see all the demons.
00:51:42.780Like if the door is closed, you don't see them, but when the door is open and you're about to go to another level, that's when you see the demons and you got to fight and you're going to fight through it.
00:51:53.940And every step of the way your old life calls you back and says, no, but remember who you are.
00:52:03.320And you have to say no, and you're going to fight through it and go through, you know, and that's how you're going to get to the truth.
00:52:10.960And every step of the way you have to be ready to sacrifice yourself because you gain a different power, you know?
00:52:18.780So I want to ask you, so you have a vision and you convert to Christianity.
00:52:24.160And I just wanted to ask you, which denomination did you convert to and what is your perspective on, of course, America, where there are so many denominations?
00:52:34.480I went with the one that my mom is, which is a born again Christian.
00:53:48.140But I went to the church thinking it was there, but it wasn't there.
00:53:51.180It had already been moved two thousand years ago and now it's moved to Italy and they've built a church there.
00:53:57.560And so when I went there, it was really interesting because St.
00:54:05.240Thomas came and landed on the East Coast Kerala and that was essentially the West Coast.
00:54:12.280And he built his first church in Kerala.
00:54:15.600Then he moved across to the East and built a one in Chennai and that's where he was killed and that's where he died.
00:54:24.040And so he ran this church for like decades.
00:54:27.180And but towards the end, the Hindu priests who murdered him, like they were very jealous of him converting people and stuff that he built a cave and he was praying in the in the caves.
00:54:42.280And so when I went to the church, what happened is, I think, year five hundred, the Catholics came and they destroyed all the St.
00:55:02.260So hundreds and thousands of people were killed by the Catholics and and then they built a cathedral on top of his little church.
00:55:12.280So within India, South India, just Tamil Nadu itself, there's so many versions, right?
00:55:21.100So you've got the Toma people who are the original Thomas followers.
00:55:24.360Then you've got the Syrian Christians.
00:55:26.100Then you've got like the Catholics, the Portuguese version, the Greek version.
00:55:31.520Then you've got like so many different, you know, so even within the Tamil community, there's like so many not even getting into like Protestant or, you know, Methodist and all of this stuff.
00:55:46.500So it's very, very confusing, but I tend to just go with what I'm going through and not get so much into the rule books of the versions.
00:56:01.260All I know is that, you know, the way I experience it, like what that truth to be, and if I can still access it when I, you know, because I tried to get with the Catholic version.
00:56:20.320So I went to St. Thomas' church and I bought a rosary bead and I put it on and then I had an epiphany that my name, right, Matangi, is M-A-T-H-A-A and then N-G-I.
00:56:41.900But if you take M-A-T-H-A-T-H-A and isolate it, that actually means Mary in Tamil.
00:56:49.240So I was like, oh, maybe I'm supposed to be a Catholic.
00:56:52.540And I was like talking to my mom about it.
00:56:56.500And then I put the rosary on and I had it on for like a month.
00:57:01.500Then I went back to St. Thomas' church on the last day on the way to the airport and it broke and fell in the church.
00:57:10.260And I was like, wow, even St. Thomas is not having it, you know, like it and it didn't break here.
00:57:17.360It broke like at the cross and just fell in the church.
00:57:22.180And so I know that that's not it, you know, like you're not supposed to worship Mary.
00:57:30.220And it always leads me back to Jesus, you know, it does.
00:57:34.700And so whatever version that is, and I don't know how much of the stuff has been confused or rewritten or infiltrated or whatever the thing is.
00:57:47.680But I have to keep sort of figuring it out.
00:57:51.660And I also like read a lot about, so I tried to go to, you know, study through St. Thomas and also St. Mark,
00:58:00.900who went and built the Egyptian version of the Coptic church.
00:58:05.140And he wrote the Bible four years after, you know, his verses are written four years after Jesus died,
00:58:14.520whereas the others are written 200 years after.
00:58:17.500So I was like, well, if you wrote it four years, you're probably still going to write from memory.
00:58:23.680And it's probably more truthful, you know.
00:58:26.780And so I was kind of interested in that, you know, finding out through Mark's gospel.
00:58:38.020Because I thought that was the truest version.
00:58:41.900But, yeah, I have my own way of working it out.
00:59:36.920I mean, I made the decision to be baptized Catholic after a long period of study.
00:59:41.520And part of it was because I realized, well, I guess kind of with my political journey,
00:59:45.900is how brainwashed I was against the Catholic Church.
00:59:49.140As an American, you're very brainwashed against the Catholic Church in school.
00:59:52.120And you learn a lot of lies about the Catholic Church that you think is true, about the Spanish Inquisition.
00:59:58.120And I started realizing this sort of Catholic conspiracy in America, which was very strange to me,
01:00:02.700the more that I started studying and reading books.
01:00:05.260One book, Rodney Stark, Bearing False Witness, which would be a great book for you to read.
01:00:08.820Catholics also don't worship Mary, but everyone thinks that Catholics worship Mary.
01:00:11.840That was one of the things that I believed, too.
01:00:13.800And it's been a really empowering journey because it's, for me, really helped me to see the evil of dividing the Christian church.
01:00:25.800And really, who was behind that evil, like wanting the Christian church to be so separated because what's divided can't stand, obviously.
01:00:33.540And America really has become a playground for that.
01:00:35.620Like, nowhere else, I mean, could you really just pick, like you're picking out ice cream flavors, like decide, like, what version of Christian you want to be, which is very my truth, my truth, my truth, and not the truth.
01:00:44.700Yeah, or like Ireland, like where they, you know, I don't understand that.
01:00:50.320And so it's interesting, and I would imagine, especially as you're, well, I guess I would ask the question, really, what is your viewpoint on, like, American Protestantism now, given all of the political events and seeing, I guess, the American Protestant Christian response to it?
01:01:14.240I think when you're up against all of these other things, right, which is the New Age religion, or you're, you know, talking about this conflict where they're like, this is definitely, you know, Muslims versus something.
01:01:38.360You know, that's why we're fighting the Middle East, because it's all really about Iran, and they're just, it's about Islam's domination of the world.
01:01:47.420So I think when it's much more broad, I mean, even Islam has got a hundred versions, and also Hinduism, like if you go into Hinduism, it's the same.
01:01:58.280So I don't see it like that, like, I think it's Jesus Christ, and, you know, like when you go past church, it's whether that communicates to me.
01:03:04.200Not the Orthodox or the Catholic, but probably...
01:03:08.300Because say when you go to South America, where it's very Catholic, I, you know, you go into...
01:03:16.960towns, and you do feel the presence of God, you know, so I don't go, oh my God, it's Catholic, you know, so I'm not going to go into this church, or I'm not going to be...
01:03:44.800Because even in Hinduism, there's so many different versions, and the same thing's happening to them, where I think they're just being told to think everything is okay, and everything works.
01:04:04.960My dad, my dad was a Catholic, and, you know, his family were really heavy into Catholicism, like his cousin was the biggest bishop in Sri Lanka.
01:04:15.920I think we talked about it on the last podcast, because he devoted his life to writing down every single dead person during the war that was killed on the beach.
01:04:30.600So, in the last days of the offensive, and so the BBC always said 40,000 people died, just like we've got that statistic with the Palestinians, like 40,000.
01:04:59.080I love it, but because what you're talking about is why I was drawn to the Catholic faith, it was because, in my viewpoint, the Catholic and the Orthodox communities are the keepers of history.
01:05:10.500And Protestantism started feeling very, what is the right word?
01:06:20.080So I was really struggling with trying to comprehend this because there were so many people that I respected and, you know, evangelical Christians.
01:06:27.580And then they just couldn't be consistent on this.
01:07:07.220I just, like, I just, I went, like, wait a second.
01:07:08.880You can't tell me that I have to bend over backwards and do a cartwheel and a split to be able to now say, like, yeah, we are pro-life, but if Palestinian children die, there's this, like, I was like, okay, something's not right here.
01:07:24.020Instinctually, spiritually, I just went, something's not, there's something heretical happening here.
01:07:30.460Like, I want to understand why people don't have moral clarity on this issue of life suddenly.
01:07:35.860And that's what kind of got me into looking into the history.
01:07:39.740And I also don't want to believe that Jesus saves you, then puts you in this place to then be okay with another bunch of people dying the same way as your people died.
01:08:04.020Spiritually, it should make you know, like, something here is not right.
01:08:06.380And then once you have that spiritual inclination, you have to do the due diligence to truly try to understand it.
01:08:11.920And what it brought me to was, like, okay, the Catholics and the Orthodox have been the ones that have been straight on morality, on what they believe, what they don't believe, without bending, without bending the will to the modern times.
01:09:03.160I want to say that I, just based on research that I've done into Freemasonry, politically Freemasonry, there's been an infiltration in all the faiths, a satanic infiltration in all of the faiths, a literal satanic infiltration, intentional, meant to be deceptive and take a position as, you know, a pastor, a priest, whatever it is, with the intention of bringing down the church.
01:09:26.360So there are traces of that throughout all the Abrahamic faiths.