Candace Owens - March 12, 2025


Mahmoud Khalil’s Detainment: Fighting Terrorism Or Speech? | Candace Ep 158


Episode Stats

Length

50 minutes

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191.95207

Word Count

9,771

Sentence Count

657

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

24


Summary

Candace breaks down the controversy surrounding the detainment of a Palestinian-American student at Columbia University on a student visa violation, and why it's time for both sides of the political aisle to be roasted for playing checkers and not chess.


Transcript

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00:00:18.120 All right, guys, happy Wednesday. Here's what I can say on both the left and the right.
00:00:22.320 It seems that we have people that are playing a game of checkers and not chess.
00:00:26.020 So to my liberals, who exactly are you winning over to your side when you attack Gwen Stefani for supporting a fellow Catholic because he's speaking to Tucker Carlson?
00:00:36.940 OK, we're going to talk about that. She's being attacked online for sharing an episode that was about faith.
00:00:41.840 To my conservatives, I don't know who exactly we're winning over when we applaud the arrest or rather not the arrest, the detainment of a green card holder.
00:00:50.220 Three days now, a legal resident of the United States for a speech that we don't exactly like or agree with.
00:00:57.640 That's what at least it appears to be on its face right now.
00:01:00.200 This is one of those fun episodes where no matter who you are, there's something for you to be offended about.
00:01:04.480 So let's jump right back in. Welcome back to Candace.
00:01:07.140 OK, so one of the many things that I miss about the 90s, you know, if you watch this show, I always say the 90s was the golden decade.
00:01:28.000 Everybody was happy and saving up for Disney.
00:01:30.320 And there were a lot of comedians and comedians who were very offensive, right?
00:01:34.660 They would get everybody into a room, people like Chris Tucker, Chris Rock, and it would make fun of every race and every person.
00:01:41.380 And by the end of the standup routine, everyone was a little bit offended and also was better for it, knowing that, OK, like you're not that special.
00:01:50.860 You don't deserve special considerations. And I'm kind of bringing that back.
00:01:54.280 I feel that today both sides just need to be roasted for being a little bit ridiculous, starting with conservatives, obviously, because this has been trending everywhere.
00:02:02.500 People that are looking for reasons to support Mahmoud Khalil's detainment.
00:02:08.500 OK, so we discussed this yesterday. If you if you need to get all of the facts, depending on leading up to this moment, please go back and watch yesterday's episode.
00:02:15.520 But essentially, he is a Palestinian green card holder, also a former student, graduate student of Columbia University, who was detained three days ago.
00:02:25.820 That's important because he has still not yet been charged, despite all of the rhetoric online, people digging up social media posts like we're in the UK, social media posts that are not attributable to him.
00:02:39.380 We don't know who's running these accounts. Some of them have been doctored. Some of them are fake.
00:02:43.900 Like the Trump team and the Republicans are struggling to give a clear and concise answer as to why they were pursuing his deportation.
00:02:52.640 Right. And that's very unusual. I want to be clear. Typically, one of the things that you love about watching these press briefings is that whether it's Kayleigh McEnany or Caroline Levitt, when the press comes to them with questions, they're able to slap them down with facts.
00:03:05.520 And this time it just seems like we're getting emotion. OK, any crime, any arrest, any reason that they had arrested him for breaking a crime would have sufficed.
00:03:14.860 That's how I am. I'm tough on this stuff. And I totally agree.
00:03:18.040 Again, just to reiterate that if you are here, especially on a student visa, not even a legal resident, and you are caught breaking the law, you've opened yourself up for deportation.
00:03:29.260 That's why we're like, yeah, the illegals, they broke the law. They're not here legally. You can go home. OK.
00:03:32.920 But instead, we're being told by Caroline Levitt that it had something to do with him being a part of a group on campus that distributed flyers that were pro-Hamas.
00:03:44.120 So she's not actually explicitly accusing him of distributing any flyers. So the language here is interesting.
00:03:51.000 And she can't show us the flyers because it's beneath the dignity of the office to show us pro-Hamas propaganda.
00:03:57.480 But she's telling us that he helped to organize a group that distributed things that were terroristic.
00:04:04.400 And before I tell you what is wrong with that argument, we should just listen to how she described this again.
00:04:09.480 Question here on Mahmoud Khalil. Does the administration believe that it needs to charge a green card holder with a crime to be eligible for deportation?
00:04:18.280 Well, in fact, Secretary Rubio reserves the right to revoke the visa of Mahmoud Khalil.
00:04:26.240 And I'm glad you brought this up. Under the Immigration and Nationality Act, the Secretary of State has the right to revoke a green card or a visa for individuals who serve or are adversarial to the foreign policy and national security interests of the United States of America.
00:04:42.400 And Mahmoud Khalil was an individual who was given the privilege of coming to this country to study at one of our nation's finest universities and colleges.
00:04:53.320 And he took advantage of that opportunity, of that privilege, by siding with terrorists, Hamas terrorists who have killed innocent men, women, and children.
00:05:02.080 This is an individual who organized group protests that not only disrupted college campus classes and harassed Jewish American students and made them feel unsafe on their own college campus, but also distributed pro-Hamas propaganda.
00:05:18.540 Flyers with the logo of Hamas. That is what the behavior and activity that this individual engaged in.
00:05:25.400 And I have those flyers on my desk. They were provided to me by the Department of Homeland Security.
00:05:29.480 I thought about bringing them into this briefing room to share with all of you, but I didn't think it was worth the dignity of this room to bring that pro-Hamas propaganda.
00:05:38.060 But that's what this individual distributed on the campus of Columbia University.
00:05:41.640 And this administration is not going to tolerate individuals having the privilege of studying in our country and then siding with pro-terrorist organizations that have killed Americans.
00:05:52.440 We have a zero-tolerance policy for siding with terrorists, period.
00:05:56.280 Okay. So she, again, is not saying that Mahmoud himself distributed or that he even created the pro-Hamas material that we aren't allowed to see because it would be beneath the dignity of the office.
00:06:09.600 But rather, he helped to organize a protest and these groups, some people that were in these protests, then harassed Jewish students.
00:06:18.560 They have not been arrested or maybe they have been arrested. That's not clear.
00:06:22.360 They distributed materials that she says are pro-Hamas propaganda.
00:06:27.380 Someone within the group did that.
00:06:29.220 Again, why aren't we arresting and using those individuals to set an example?
00:06:33.820 So I would be very comfortable with that.
00:06:35.980 But she also reminds us in the beginning that it is the secretary of state that has the right to revoke a green card for any person that acts against the national security and foreign interests of the United States.
00:06:47.280 So the argument is essentially, just to make this clear, terrorism is in the eye of the beholder.
00:06:53.360 Because it's going to change.
00:06:55.080 The definition of terrorism and the definition of what are our national security interests, that's going to change from administration to administration.
00:07:02.580 And that is what makes me so uncomfortable about this.
00:07:05.540 And I want to explain that and also to offer something to you guys that is quite personal.
00:07:10.980 But it is why I am just so enraged about this because no one understands how slippery that slope can get better than me.
00:07:18.040 OK, first and foremost, I am not immune from this discussion.
00:07:22.100 Let's not forget I married an immigrant.
00:07:24.020 OK, who, like me, supports Donald Trump, who has supported Donald Trump through two, three elections.
00:07:31.200 Now, we attended many Trump rallies, many Trump speeches.
00:07:35.760 And there's one day that I will never forget.
00:07:38.440 And that day is January 6th, 2020, because there is something that happened that sent a chill down my spine.
00:07:45.180 OK, on that day, I was nine months pregnant living in Washington, D.C.
00:07:50.880 I was actually overdue.
00:07:52.380 I ended up giving birth to my son seven days later on January 13th, 2021.
00:07:57.940 Pardon, let me correct that.
00:07:59.380 And I lived just a couple of blocks away from the White House where Trump was due to speak this, you know, save America, stop the steal.
00:08:08.760 This whole thing that was gathering.
00:08:10.180 All of our friends were going to hear him speak.
00:08:12.220 And naturally, I would have been a part of this had I not have been overdue pregnant.
00:08:17.180 So it really was just a God thing that I didn't attend this rally.
00:08:21.620 And what ended up happening, obviously, was suddenly I started getting all these phone calls.
00:08:26.300 Are you OK?
00:08:26.720 Are you OK?
00:08:27.240 What's going on?
00:08:28.620 And I'm like, yeah, I'm just home.
00:08:29.940 Like, there seems to be nothing going on.
00:08:31.840 Next thing I know, I'm seeing images on CNN, MSNBC talking about how there's been this insurrection, showing images of people pushing past the police barricades.
00:08:43.500 We're getting so much information, a lot of it which wasn't even true.
00:08:46.400 We're being told that officers were killed, were bludgeoned to death.
00:08:50.220 Things that were clarified later that nobody even remembers were clarified as being wrong because it's all about selling the emotion on that day.
00:08:57.200 And what followed thereafter was genuinely like the secret police, like I said to you guys yesterday.
00:09:03.540 So we would have been in attendance.
00:09:05.880 People who didn't even go into the Capitol building had FBI people on their door.
00:09:10.060 People were being encouraged to snitch on their neighbors.
00:09:12.660 And what happened to me in my personal life was I had signed a deal with Hachette Publishing for my second book.
00:09:19.900 And they called me up and they were telling me essentially that I was being put into a holding pattern because they weren't sure if they were going to revoke this book deal, this book offer, rather, for my second book, the one that is finally in my hands.
00:09:34.440 I told you guys that this went through a lot.
00:09:36.100 And they basically kind of wanted to have an interview with me to see what I thought about the quote unquote insurrection and were pressuring me to distance myself from Donald Trump, who I supported very much.
00:09:49.920 And the arguments that were being made at that time sound remarkably similar to what Carolyn Levitt is saying.
00:09:54.900 Well, Donald Trump, Donald Trump's team organized this rally.
00:09:57.900 So anything that happened, people storming the Capitol building, people walking in the Capitol building, anything that happened that day is now attributable to Donald Trump.
00:10:06.100 And this is an insurrection.
00:10:07.380 It's a day that will die.
00:10:08.980 You know, democracy is dying today.
00:10:11.260 It was a huge deal.
00:10:12.260 If you remember at this time, we were being called domestic terrorists.
00:10:15.520 And even people who weren't there were losing in their lives, potentially losing a book contract because I supported Donald Trump.
00:10:24.120 What was that about?
00:10:25.100 Actually, it was about chilling speech.
00:10:26.640 I wasn't even there.
00:10:27.640 I was not there.
00:10:28.820 And I was still forced to go through this process.
00:10:31.200 And by the end of it, a week later, they called me and said, after I gave birth, we're going to let you keep
00:10:35.720 your book deal.
00:10:37.880 You know, we talked about it and it's fine.
00:10:39.280 And I actually went back to Hachette and I said, I don't want to keep the book deal because there's something about this that bothers me.
00:10:44.820 There's something about the fact that my book, which is not even about Donald Trump, it's about feminism, which is the other thing.
00:10:50.520 It was extraordinary because the book wasn't even about Donald Trump and nothing to do with politics.
00:10:54.480 And yet I was being threatened to lose a contract because they wanted me to just say something that was against Donald Trump.
00:11:01.580 It was against the national interests of, you could say, the the incoming administration to be a Trump supporter at that time.
00:11:11.200 And I'm sitting here going, what if I hadn't been pregnant?
00:11:15.600 What if me and my husband went down the street like we always did to attend a bunch of political events?
00:11:20.200 And that one went sideways and the media trumped it up and said it was this and domestic terrorists and terrorism was the number one word that was used.
00:11:27.800 Would my husband have had his status revoked?
00:11:33.260 Would my family, new family, by the way, because I was ironically, like I said, nine months pregnant with our first child, have been separated because of new definitions for what it meant to be a terrorist, which could even include not even being there that day, but someone that the public recognizes as being a supporter of Trump.
00:11:50.160 That's what it means when I say that terrorism as a word that's being overused a lot by the left and the right is in the eye of the beholder.
00:11:59.400 This is why I am passionately demanding that we are just given a real explanation as to why this individual, Mahmoud, is being detained.
00:12:08.960 That's it. I just want to know why this family is potentially going to be separated because he had a legal status here.
00:12:15.100 He was not just here on a student visa.
00:12:16.720 He had a green card. OK, very different implications here.
00:12:21.280 He actually does have free speech rights.
00:12:23.500 He can't vote, but he has free speech rights.
00:12:25.580 And I'm watching conservatives who have apparently forgotten about all that, forgotten about all the harassment that we endured.
00:12:30.820 I mean, I've been called a terrorist so many times in my political background.
00:12:34.480 It's kind of amazing. Domestic terrorist for supporting Donald Trump after January 6th.
00:12:38.820 I've been called a domestic terrorist for seeing my grandparent during the time of covid for not vaccine my children because the national security interest was all about covid.
00:12:49.640 So they had to what did they do? They squeezed speech on social media.
00:12:52.700 Remember that you couldn't even publish something.
00:12:55.840 You couldn't say I got the vaccine and my arm hurts before they would take it down.
00:13:00.280 But they did that, remember, because of national security interests.
00:13:04.500 This was for our health.
00:13:07.100 Now, conservatives who have spent years combating the persecution of speech under the guise of terror are turning to what looks like obscure social media posts and claims that green card holders shouldn't have the right to speech or rather speech that is against, quote unquote, national security or national interests.
00:13:24.940 It's like I said, seems to be a bit of a moving target.
00:13:28.440 You know, a few years ago, like I said, that would have meant deporting people who spoke out against covid policies.
00:13:35.040 That's what you have to think about.
00:13:36.660 That would have meant deporting people who spoke out against Dr. Fauci.
00:13:41.840 OK, talking about actual things that they lived through by having a bad reaction, maybe going outside during lockdowns.
00:13:49.040 Some people are even suggesting that criticizing any U.S. leader when you're not a citizen is wrong, which brought up a very interesting point.
00:13:57.020 It was a good back forth between Glenn Greenwald and Mike Cernovich, two people that I respect very much who have different positions on this.
00:14:04.160 Mike Cernovich, by the way, I'm grateful that he's actually consistent.
00:14:06.820 He's like, yes, I would say Jordan Peterson should have been deported.
00:14:10.600 He's Canadian because we shouldn't be hearing his political perspectives.
00:14:14.600 He's not a citizen here.
00:14:16.020 And Glenn Greenwald then pitched that question.
00:14:18.020 And I will show you journalist Glenn Greenwald.
00:14:19.860 He asked this question.
00:14:21.380 He said, actually, this is a good point.
00:14:22.680 Jordan Peterson is not a citizen.
00:14:24.880 Yet he frequently not only criticizes U.S.
00:14:27.260 political leaders and U.S.
00:14:28.380 policies on U.S. soil, but also participates in various forms of political activism.
00:14:33.620 I'm not suggesting it's illegal, but should this be allowed?
00:14:37.920 And he also asked this question.
00:14:40.760 He said, if this is the principle, and that's what I kept hearing all day, that non-citizens in the U.S.
00:14:45.600 should keep their mouths shut and not engage in political protests, then you would have been fine if the Biden administration deported Jordan Peterson for criticizing Biden White House policy.
00:14:59.220 Are we OK with that?
00:15:00.460 I think there might even be a third tweet from him asking that question.
00:15:07.020 So if Jordan Peterson went to an American college to protest that school's promotion of gender ideology and multiple genders, do you think that he should be deported for engaging in protests at American University because he is a foreigner?
00:15:20.060 Your answer might be yes to that, OK?
00:15:23.800 My only thing that I've been asking for is for someone to give me a concrete reason why this individual is being detained while his wife is eight months pregnant.
00:15:31.160 I think that's fair.
00:15:32.200 And anybody that's reacting like that's crazy, like it's a crazy ask, that to me seems a little bit extreme.
00:15:38.260 And what better person to ask than the person who did it, Marco Rubio, the secretary of state, surely the person who actually coordinated this detainment, Marco Rubio, can clearly or should be able to clearly explain what the crime is that he committed.
00:15:54.680 So I'm going to show you what he had to say about it.
00:15:56.500 Here is Marco Rubio on the detainment of Mahmoud Khalil.
00:15:59.400 When you come to the United States as a visitor, which is what a visa is, which is how this individual entered this country, on a visitor's visa, you are here as a visitor.
00:16:09.280 We can deny you that visa.
00:16:11.280 We can deny you that if you tell us when you apply, hi, I'm trying to get into the United States on a student visa.
00:16:16.500 I am a big supporter of Hamas, a murderous, barbaric group that kidnaps children, that rapes teenage girls, that takes hostages, that allows them to die in captivity, that returns more bodies than live hostages.
00:16:29.520 If you tell us that you are in favor of a group like this, and if you tell us when you apply for your visa, and by the way, I intend to come to your country as a student and rile up all kinds of anti-Jewish student, anti-Semitic activities.
00:16:41.360 I intend to shut down your universities.
00:16:43.360 If you told us all these things when you applied for a visa, we would deny your visa.
00:16:46.620 I hope we would.
00:16:47.700 If you actually end up doing that, once you're in this country on such a visa, we will revoke it.
00:16:53.100 And if you end up having a green card, not citizenship, but a green card as a result of that visa while you're here and those activities, we're going to kick you out.
00:17:00.720 It's as simple as that.
00:17:01.560 This is not about free speech.
00:17:02.920 This is about people that don't have a right to be in the United States to begin with.
00:17:06.140 No one has a right to a student visa.
00:17:08.060 No one has a right to a green card, by the way.
00:17:10.420 So when you apply for a student visa or any visa to enter the United States, we have a right to deny you for virtually any reason.
00:17:16.680 But I think being a supporter of Hamas and coming into our universities and turning them upside down and being complicit in what are clearly crimes of vandalization, complicit in shutting down learning institutions.
00:17:28.520 There are kids at these schools that can't go to class.
00:17:30.840 You pay all this money to these high-priced schools that are supposed to be of great esteem, and you can't even go to class.
00:17:36.540 You're afraid to go to class because these lunatics are running around with covers on their face, screaming terrifying things.
00:17:42.220 If you told us that's what you intended to do when you came to America, we would have never let you in.
00:17:46.560 And if you do it once you get in, we're going to revoke it and kick you out.
00:17:49.640 So the first two minutes of that is just pure hypothetical.
00:17:54.120 He's like, oh, well, if you apply and you say that I support Hamas and I support terrorism, we have a right to deny you.
00:17:59.560 That's not the question that's being asked of you, Marco Rubio.
00:18:01.900 We're not asking.
00:18:02.520 Clearly, that could not have been what was on his application.
00:18:06.140 He was accepted.
00:18:06.940 OK, the second piece of that is he is basically saying that his crime is that he is complicit, complicit.
00:18:13.880 The word complicit, I remember this so well because that was the mainstream media charge against Ivanka for four years.
00:18:19.620 This is why Ivanka Trump was harassed for four years.
00:18:22.380 She was complicit in rape, sexual assault, a war against women, you name it.
00:18:27.860 What did she actually do?
00:18:28.780 Well, she supported her father being the president of the United States, but that didn't stop people from making fun of her and calling her complicit every turn.
00:18:36.520 She never returned any fire, but that was it.
00:18:38.780 They hated Ivanka Trump for being complicit.
00:18:42.060 So that's what that is, is his excuse thus far.
00:18:45.340 Thus far, he has not been able to name a single thing that he did other than be complicit, meaning maybe he organized these protests and they felt that that made him complicit.
00:18:55.560 So if somebody at the protest and there's 2000 people decides to spray paint something on the wall, well, he's saying we're hanging him for that because, you know, protesting is just not something that we should be doing in the United States, which even though I think it is something that we are allowed to do, we are allowed to peaceably assemble.
00:19:11.380 And if somebody that you're peaceably assembling with does something that's crazy, you're not complicit in that.
00:19:17.140 You have to just not do that and speak out against it when it happens.
00:19:20.940 So now we are learning, by the way, and something that seems even more strange to me, that Mahmoud Khalil, who we are just being told is complicit, he's a terrorist sympathizer absent any facts, that actually he worked as a diplomat of sorts, right?
00:19:38.200 And a diplomatic mission as a program manager at the Syria office in the British embassy of Beirut.
00:19:45.520 So he was a person that was helping to establish peace and a British diplomat named Andrew Waller has come out and given a statement regarding Mahmoud.
00:19:57.920 He said, quote, he went through a vetting process to get the job and was cleared to work on sensitive issues for the British government.
00:20:05.500 Waller said, it is outright defamation what Trump has done.
00:20:09.640 Mahmoud is extremely kind and conscientious person, and he was loved by his colleagues at the Syria office, he added.
00:20:16.960 Maybe that guy's lying.
00:20:18.420 Maybe he didn't know that truly and this person really did just want to get in the United States because he wanted to support the activities of Hamas.
00:20:26.940 But is it wrong for us to ask for the information that led to this?
00:20:30.140 It's been three days.
00:20:30.920 He's been detained and he has not been charged.
00:20:32.460 So everything is just rhetoric online, which is like, why wouldn't you at first have the charges ready to go before you did this, before you publicize this on the White House website, making fun of this?
00:20:43.140 Shalom.
00:20:43.940 We got him.
00:20:44.740 This all.
00:20:45.240 And now people are asking questions and people are chasing their tails.
00:20:48.620 And then there's this one other piece that I can't figure out.
00:20:51.400 Why did ICE move him from New York, where he was arrested, detained, to Louisiana?
00:20:58.100 They moved him away from his family.
00:20:59.540 And his attorneys are speaking out against that, alleging that the move from New York metropolitan area to Louisiana was just a retaliatory transfer that was intended to just restrict his access to his lawyers and to his family and to position him somewhere where essentially we would be more favorable to Trump's administration's policies.
00:21:19.440 They're accusing ICE of essentially deploying the transfer as a way to disrupt court proceedings in New York.
00:21:26.740 Now, there may be a valid reason that they did that.
00:21:29.240 I couldn't think of one.
00:21:30.180 I looked at this several different ways, asked the team, why would you move him if this happened in New York?
00:21:35.200 It's pertaining to Columbia University.
00:21:37.340 Why would they detain him and then move him down to Louisiana?
00:21:41.060 Louisiana. On Sunday, his lawyer had filed an initial petition for his release in New York in the hopes that it would be argued in New York where she could continue to represent her client.
00:21:50.740 And she said, quote, the government just willfully ignored it to disrupt the natural education, edudication of that and sent him 1000 miles away, said.
00:21:59.980 Her name is Bahar Azmi, the legal director of the Center for Constitutional Rights.
00:22:05.120 She says, quote, now his wife can't visit him.
00:22:06.860 His attorneys will have a hard time visiting him and his long term immigration attorney can't represent him in that jurisdiction.
00:22:14.320 So I don't understand really what is happening right now.
00:22:17.380 I don't understand who exactly this benefits.
00:22:19.840 This feels to me like someone just made a call and said, go after this guy.
00:22:23.720 I don't know. I just don't get it.
00:22:25.260 There were so many students that they could have plucked from.
00:22:28.160 Like I said, I have never been against the idea of any students that broke the law and did something, forms of illegal protesting.
00:22:35.040 I've never been against the idea of those students being deported if they were here on a student visa, because I agree.
00:22:40.320 I tend to agree with the fact that if you are here, you need to respect the laws and you know that you're putting yourself at risk when you are not respecting the laws.
00:22:48.680 And so none of that would have flagged me as odd.
00:22:51.400 But this is something else.
00:22:52.820 Already, people are saying that, of course, this does not make things safer or better for Jewish students on campus.
00:22:59.860 So if that was the explicit aim, you failed.
00:23:03.020 You have failed.
00:23:03.680 People are now riled up about an issue that they actually weren't riled up about recently.
00:23:08.460 Here is an aerial shot, by the way, of all the protesters outside of the city hall that were waiting for an announcement pertaining to what was happening in the courthouse.
00:23:17.640 And I'm also going to show you some of the speeches that were being held this morning outside of the courthouse.
00:23:24.600 This is the legal director for the Center of Constitutional Rights, the woman I just mentioned, Bahar Azmi, speaking about a sorry, a man, the professor.
00:23:35.340 Oh, sorry. Bahar Azmi is a man, not a woman.
00:23:38.680 And here is what he had to say about this not being a matter of security, but rather an issue that's about repression.
00:23:45.540 Take a listen.
00:23:46.160 Mr. Khalil's detention has nothing to do with security.
00:23:50.840 It is only about repression.
00:23:54.780 The United States government has taken the position that it can arrest, detain, and seek to deport a lawful permanent resident exclusively because of his peaceful, constitutionally protected activism.
00:24:10.180 In this case, activism in support of Palestinian human rights and an end to the genocide in Gaza.
00:24:18.700 The government takes the position that because the secretary of state finds his dissent unacceptable or contrary to U.S. foreign policy, he can be deported.
00:24:35.720 As Ramsey suggested, it's largely unprecedented, save for ugly historical precedents, including the Red Scare and McCarthyism.
00:24:45.720 That's what we're talking about.
00:24:47.720 We're also talking about a period of repression that the Center for Constitutional Rights knows well, following 9-11, when we were in the courts trying to get people out of secret detention.
00:25:00.720 One thing that's different now is the legal infrastructure is so much stronger and everyone out here on the streets knows that we cannot hide in the face of this amount of repression.
00:25:15.720 We're fighting in the courts and fighting in the streets to bring Mahmoud home and prevent this level of repression from spreading to many others, as the administration has threatened to do.
00:25:31.840 Like I said, I don't see how this benefited Trump supporters.
00:25:35.100 I don't see how this benefited Republicans.
00:25:37.400 I don't see how this benefits us in the future.
00:25:39.220 And this is going to be drummed up and shown that, oh, you guys always say that you're free speech, but it looks like you squeezed speech.
00:25:45.360 And I don't see how this benefits Jewish people and their safety.
00:25:48.500 If Jewish people are walking through the streets and now seeing all of these protests that are mounting, they're going to go, OK, what just happened?
00:25:55.520 Just reinforce this idea that there's Jewish supremacy because we haven't been no one's been given a reason for why this happened.
00:26:02.180 And I'm seeing that already online.
00:26:03.900 There have been Jewish people who are anti-Trump, who are left leaning, who have said, I feel less safe because of this action.
00:26:09.500 So who did this benefit?
00:26:10.640 Was it just like a friend who called and said this guy?
00:26:12.860 I just don't get that everyone would have been like, OK, well, this person was arrested for smashing in a window at Columbia.
00:26:19.860 So you got to go home.
00:26:21.520 Adios.
00:26:22.280 You know, everyone likes to see a criminal get locked up.
00:26:25.280 That's what used to be tough on crime, not tough on speech.
00:26:28.040 And now you have Jewish professors who are speaking out about what's happening on campus.
00:26:32.260 And it allows people to lean into this lie that Republicans and conservatives are fascists.
00:26:37.880 We're not.
00:26:38.780 We are not.
00:26:39.820 And this is not a good look.
00:26:41.100 If we are not fascist, we should say the reason this person was arrested was because of this specific crime that he committed.
00:26:48.220 And here is evidence that he was actually linked to Hamas.
00:26:50.940 He was funding them through bank accounts.
00:26:52.560 So that's why we deported him.
00:26:54.200 And then you will have my support.
00:26:55.500 And maybe it's coming down the line.
00:26:57.600 But right now you are having Jewish professors who are essentially saying, well, you know what?
00:27:02.540 We told you that they were fascists.
00:27:04.200 And he also, by the way, I think he's wrong about that rhetoric about conservatives.
00:27:07.300 But he also is making some valid points about the fear that people have of being conflated as a Hamas supporter or a terrorist sympathizer if they simply speak up and acknowledge that too many Palestinian children and women have been killed in this war.
00:27:23.900 Take a listen.
00:27:25.360 It is always dangerous to speak in public for Palestinian rights, safety and freedom with your face uncovered and your name declared.
00:27:33.000 You can be sure you will be harassed, doxxed, terrorized.
00:27:36.480 People will try to get you fired from your job.
00:27:39.000 For speaking here, I will receive a new round of death threats, slander, complaints to my employer.
00:27:43.860 When I step down from here, I will publish these remarks to protect me from the inevitable attempts to misrepresent my words.
00:27:50.320 And Mahmoud, as a student negotiator, took these same risks and many more.
00:27:54.900 Mahmoud is a man of decency, honor and kindness.
00:27:57.760 He has distinguished himself in his work as an advocate and negotiator, as someone committed to peaceful resolution of difficult situations.
00:28:04.740 He is a consummate diplomat in his disposition and his character.
00:28:09.600 What the Trump government is doing to Mahmoud is obscene.
00:28:12.940 It is unreasonable, intolerable, unconstitutional.
00:28:16.120 So why do they think they can get away with it?
00:28:18.900 The Trump administration is betting that Americans will happily look the other way as one more Palestinian is victimized here on American soil.
00:28:26.360 They are betting that when you hear Mahmoud's name or the word Palestinian, the parts of you that make you a thinking and rational and caring person will switch off, and you will believe the worst about him, and you will turn a blind eye to these grave violations of his rights.
00:28:41.080 And after what I've seen over the last year and a half, I'm not sure they're wrong.
00:28:44.500 Anti-Palestinian groups have spent all year casually leveling the most dangerous accusations on the flimsiest grounds, and members of our own community have repeated them.
00:28:54.600 Don't like seeing a kafia?
00:28:56.040 Call them a terrorist and call the cops.
00:28:58.120 Don't like their views?
00:28:59.300 Call them anti-Semitic and get them expelled.
00:29:01.580 Don't like that your Jewish colleague has the chutzpah to say free Palestine?
00:29:05.560 Report him for Jew hatred to a university task force.
00:29:08.100 Don't like seeing a broad and diverse movement of courageous young people standing together against the ethnic cleansing of Gaza?
00:29:15.600 Call your friends in the government and send the feds to their door.
00:29:18.800 As an educator, it disgusts me that anyone who wants to be taken seriously in association with a university would deal so ignorantly with language and truth.
00:29:29.180 But more than that, I am ashamed as a Jewish person that this kind of slander has found currency in some parts of my own community in service of the racist and anti-Semitic Trump agenda.
00:29:39.180 Trump's claim that this atrocity combats anti-Semitism is insulting.
00:29:44.620 I tend to agree with a lot of what he said there, and I think that that is a feeling for many of us, like I said, who have lived through the smears of just saying something that's so plainly obvious.
00:29:53.180 Like, obviously, we should be trying to fight to protect innocent life.
00:29:56.720 And I remember the reaction that Tucker Carlson got, like, yeah, it's evil to kill, intentionally kill women and children who are innocent and people trying to go, oh, that's crazy.
00:30:06.960 That's anti-Semitic to suggest that, you know, this it's it's it's it's gone too far.
00:30:12.000 And I think that that's why people are not accepting this narrative and believing people at face value when you just call somebody a terrorist sympathizer.
00:30:18.940 We need actual evidence of what exactly we're speaking about when we call somebody those names, because too many of us have been called those names, whether it pertains to Palestine, whether it pertains to deciding not to get the vaccine and not to back your children or to go see your grandma during Thanksgiving or to simply go support a President Trump speech.
00:30:38.180 And no one should know this better, by the way, than the Trump administration, no one should know how quickly an administration can designate somebody a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer than the Trump administration who lived through that very much.
00:30:52.080 And that moment of 2021 and January 6th.
00:30:55.000 So I am disappointed in conservatives who seem to have lost the threat on this issue, who are believing online rhetoric, who are not pursuing clarity and truth.
00:31:04.560 Like I said, as soon as that information is presented, I will present it to the public.
00:31:08.400 I just have not seen it yet.
00:31:09.960 And like I said, we are on day three and nobody seems to be winning from this.
00:31:14.420 Not Trump, not the Republicans, not the Jewish people, certainly not the state of Israel.
00:31:18.780 I'm sure that the Gallup poll, if it was taken today, would have plummeted more because people don't like unchecked power.
00:31:25.000 People do not like smears.
00:31:26.920 They do not like libels.
00:31:28.240 Eventually, they wake up to the game of smearing and libeling people who disagree with you.
00:31:32.520 And it doesn't look like it has provided any deterrence.
00:31:34.600 It doesn't look like this has made people go, well, I better support Bibi Netanyahu.
00:31:38.560 I would say probably quite the opposite.
00:31:41.620 Anyway, that's all I'm going to say on that topic.
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00:33:37.800 All right, guys.
00:33:38.400 Now on to the left.
00:33:39.360 It's your turn, okay?
00:33:40.300 Because like I said, everybody's just doing too much, and I don't know why.
00:33:45.060 I don't understand why everyone can't just be normal and rational and ideologically consistent.
00:33:49.920 And I really can't comprehend this repeat outrage because people found out that Gwen Stefani is Catholic.
00:33:56.100 She actually always has been Catholic, okay?
00:33:58.480 Now to my lefties, you can own this or you can not own this, but there seems to be some sort of a visceral reaction always
00:34:04.480 when celebrities display any kind of remote appreciation for Jesus Christ.
00:34:09.540 I don't know why that is, truly.
00:34:10.760 I mean, a couple—I didn't cover it, but I think it was like last month, Nicole Scherzinger from the Pussycat Dolls.
00:34:15.680 She commented under Russell Brand's post, historically a leftist, by the way, Russell Brand, and he had like, make Jesus great.
00:34:24.680 I don't know, something—a cap that looked like a MAGA cap, but it was a message about Jesus Christ, and they were outraged.
00:34:29.240 How could you like this?
00:34:30.620 The hat is red, and it looks like a MAGA hat.
00:34:32.800 And she had to apologize for it.
00:34:35.560 And why?
00:34:37.180 Why, guys?
00:34:38.260 Why?
00:34:38.640 If you're going to say that this is really about who they're platforming Russell Brand, is he problematic?
00:34:45.640 Gwen Stefani, just so you know, she's been Catholic always, even when she was on tour.
00:34:50.280 She attended the mass, like, while she was touring with No Doubt.
00:34:54.040 When she filed for divorce from Gavin Rossdahl in August of 2015, after 13 years of marriage, she actually made sure to get that marriage annulled by the Catholic Church.
00:35:05.980 It's something that you have to do because you're not actually allowed to get divorced.
00:35:09.940 If you are a Catholic, you have to get that marriage officially annulled.
00:35:12.860 And she had reportedly put off the idea of marrying her fiancé, Blake Shelton, until that annulment was finalized due to her religious beliefs.
00:35:19.960 So she's a firm Catholic, and a source at that time told Page Six that it was, quote, a huge relief for Gwen because she wanted to get married by her priest and have the marriage recognized by the Catholic Church.
00:35:31.500 And then, of course, we know that her and Blake Shelton got married in a chapel on their Oklahoma ranch on July 3rd, 2021.
00:35:38.880 I mean, she has bothered no one, right?
00:35:41.060 And so, obviously, when you are a Catholic, you pursue Catholic content.
00:35:44.940 It just kind of comes with the territory, you know, obviously, especially if you're attending mass.
00:35:50.160 If you are a committed Catholic and you attend mass every Sunday, as she allegedly does, you are going to pursue additional content.
00:35:58.300 And Jonathan Rumi, who played Jesus Christ in The Passion of the Christ, stopped by Tucker Carlson's program.
00:36:04.860 Not exactly anything that should blow your mind, given the fact that Mel Gibson, who created that movie, has been on Tucker Carlson.
00:36:11.660 And Tucker Carlson routinely has people on to discuss faith, which you may not know because maybe you've fallen for a caricature of who Tucker Carlson is.
00:36:20.420 I can tell you from knowing him, he is one of the most genuine and wonderful people out there.
00:36:25.000 And, yes, he has, similar to me, had the media paint him as this or paint him as that.
00:36:29.380 I mean, he is a wonderful father.
00:36:31.860 He doesn't even, like, respond to emails and text messages because he just likes to be fishing out in Maine.
00:36:37.820 And so it makes perfect sense that Jonathan Rumi would be on his show.
00:36:41.420 And, yeah, she tweeted after watching Jonathan Rumi on the show.
00:36:46.680 She tweeted to Jonathan Rumi, you are a powerful, inspirational human.
00:36:50.840 What an enlightening, intelligent, beautiful interview.
00:36:54.600 Thank you for being you.
00:36:55.540 So this tweet was directed to Jonathan Rumi, not even Tucker Carlson.
00:36:59.740 And she, people were really angry.
00:37:03.320 I'll show you what people said to her.
00:37:04.720 They said this to her.
00:37:05.840 This is just in a row.
00:37:07.160 You honestly need a reality check.
00:37:09.160 God, this is heartbreaking.
00:37:10.780 Like, they don't even appreciate the fact that saying God is just kind of a little bit ironic there.
00:37:15.320 Oh, Gwen, becoming a right-wing grifter.
00:37:18.640 Taylor writes, hard, ugh, normalize not promoting Tucker Carlson.
00:37:23.380 Gwen, as a longtime fan, you're making it harder and harder to keep supporting you.
00:37:26.840 Please don't platform Tucker Carlson, the Russian propagandist good lord.
00:37:31.620 So glad you love the guy who plays Jesus.
00:37:33.560 But do you realize you are also promoting Tucker Carlson?
00:37:36.160 Tragic Kingdom was my first CD at age 11.
00:37:39.120 Hollaback Girl was my college anthem.
00:37:41.220 You hosted a fundraiser for Barack Obama.
00:37:43.260 Gwen, what has happened?
00:37:45.180 Knew she was a right-wing grifter when she started promoting a Bible app.
00:37:48.440 Oh, the horror!
00:37:49.900 Right-wing grifter because she's promoting for people to read the Bible.
00:37:53.740 What is so horrible about that, guys?
00:37:56.600 Somebody then writes, Gwen is in her Trump era.
00:37:59.200 So you would probably go, what was this conversation that has people freaking out?
00:38:02.520 It was totally sensible.
00:38:03.540 It was obviously talking about the need to have a relationship with God throughout these crazy times.
00:38:08.540 Take a listen to what she was responding to.
00:38:10.700 This is a small clip, but you should go watch the entire interview.
00:38:13.060 The power of prayer.
00:38:15.780 The power of being in a constant dialogue with God.
00:38:18.960 It's what we were made for.
00:38:20.380 We were designed to worship.
00:38:22.680 We were designed for that relationship.
00:38:24.240 It's in our DNA.
00:38:24.960 And the more we try to ignore it or squash it or bury it or ignore it or pretend it doesn't exist or that it's not there or replace it with something else.
00:38:34.220 The more we try to fill that hole with something else, with some other vice, some other endeavor, some other, you know, righteous indignation of something.
00:38:51.180 Some other effort that will never substitute, never replace our need for God.
00:39:00.940 It'll never replace it.
00:39:02.020 Oh, my gosh.
00:39:04.840 The horror of her enjoying this conversation.
00:39:06.920 Also, to correct, I said he was in The Passion of the Christ.
00:39:09.100 I meant to say that he is in this series, The Chosen, which people are enjoying tremendously.
00:39:13.540 We have everything else offered to us on TV.
00:39:16.720 So much filth that is available at our fingertips.
00:39:19.360 God forbid Gwen Stefani is watching The Chosen and then listening to that actor speak across from Tucker Carlson about the need to have God in your life when there is so much chaos.
00:39:32.000 And she's being attacked and it's just super wrong.
00:39:35.640 And again, who do you win by doing that?
00:39:38.000 Why is there?
00:39:38.720 I want to understand it.
00:39:39.440 Why is there such a visceral reaction in Hollywood?
00:39:42.280 You accept everything else, it seems, from people that are in Hollywood.
00:39:45.460 She's like, oh, I loved her.
00:39:47.000 Hollaback girl.
00:39:47.660 Me, too.
00:39:48.040 I loved Hollaback girl, too.
00:39:49.120 Is there nothing sacred?
00:39:49.920 Can we leave her alone?
00:39:51.220 She gave us Hollaback girl.
00:39:52.660 She gave us If I Could Escape.
00:39:54.900 But no, they attack her for this.
00:39:58.080 Hollywood.
00:39:58.520 They are routinely selling us drugs, rock and roll, people that are in and out of relationships, people that are struggling with various mental conditions that are having breakdowns and doing drugs.
00:40:10.240 And all of that seems to be fine.
00:40:12.100 And they'll support it.
00:40:13.220 They'll get behind those people.
00:40:15.300 Oh, I love it.
00:40:15.960 You're so beautiful.
00:40:16.680 You're just being you.
00:40:18.480 And yet you have a woman who's like, hey, I thank you.
00:40:20.500 I enjoyed this chat about Jesus Christ.
00:40:22.420 And there's outrage.
00:40:23.640 That's got to stop.
00:40:24.540 Not going to win anybody.
00:40:25.200 Anybody over to your side.
00:40:27.300 It seems like you just don't like people that have different opinions.
00:40:30.300 And again, to those of you who think you hate Tucker Carlson, you're watching this show and you're starting to realize that you've been lied to about people.
00:40:37.520 Maybe the media doesn't always tell the truth about things.
00:40:39.620 Like maybe they weren't telling the truth about Justin Baldoni.
00:40:42.160 There's a chance they haven't been telling you the truth about people like Tucker Carlson either.
00:40:45.180 And maybe sitting down and listening to his content and understanding why his podcast is so big is good.
00:40:50.860 Like break that barrier.
00:40:51.860 You don't need the media to tell you about people.
00:40:54.180 Actually go directly to the source.
00:40:55.680 Listen to them a couple of episodes.
00:40:57.140 And if you still feel strongly against it, that's fine.
00:40:59.440 But at least you formed your own opinions.
00:41:01.020 Didn't have your opinions being formed for you.
00:41:03.640 That's what I would say.
00:41:04.460 I also want to add, I think it's really deeply ironic when speaking about this topic that I was speaking about earlier about anti-Semitism.
00:41:13.120 It's really funny that I kind of have dealt with that as well as Tucker Carlson being called an anti-Semite for speaking about various issues in the Middle East and maybe not aligning all the time with Israel.
00:41:23.960 When at the same exact time, I'm doing an entire series trying to free a Jewish man who donates to the ADL, has probably given millions of dollars to the ADL, Harvey Weinstein, and also defending Justin Baldoni and Steve Sarwitz.
00:41:36.860 So there's nothing authentic in the media, guys.
00:41:38.760 It's just a bunch of name-calling and ad hominem attacks to dissuade people from getting to the source because they don't want people influenced by ideas that they're not controlling.
00:41:46.980 And I'm affirming to the mainstream media.
00:41:48.300 They like to have a stranglehold on ideas and they brainwash people into hating one another.
00:41:53.160 So everybody let it go, okay?
00:41:55.460 Just, it's going to be totally fine.
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00:43:00.380 Okay.
00:43:01.240 Let's see what we have under some of your comments that are coming in.
00:43:05.420 Let's see what you think about these topics.
00:43:08.120 Savvy Sassy writes,
00:43:09.420 Canis, do you think that our government and the deep state are instigating World War III,
00:43:13.840 getting people riled up and emotional as they prep us psychologically?
00:43:16.860 They manipulate us into accepting another World War III since our military is prepping.
00:43:20.920 I have been saying for years, war with Iran is on the agenda.
00:43:23.840 And I hope, I wish I could just put together just me saying that for like the last five years.
00:43:27.760 And now, and it really kind of all came together with Trump, the assassination attempt.
00:43:32.500 We see this like scrawny white guy on a rooftop and they're like, this was Iran.
00:43:36.260 Iran planned this.
00:43:39.940 Oh, really?
00:43:41.180 Does Iran have a cell in Pennsylvania?
00:43:44.360 Wow.
00:43:44.640 I just never thought in the middle of Pennsylvania with this kid.
00:43:47.680 And then it just kind of gets wiped from the press.
00:43:49.320 So like intelligence tells us that this was Iran.
00:43:51.300 Come on, guys.
00:43:51.880 It's clearly, you know, Bibi Netanyahu wants war with Iran.
00:43:54.660 They're prepping us for war with Iran.
00:43:56.820 And I would not send my children.
00:43:58.840 They're not old enough, but I would not send them if they were.
00:44:00.880 Brian writes, Canis, do you suspect that Khalil's detainment falls under a conflated,
00:44:05.400 ever widening umbrella of anti-Semitism?
00:44:07.860 Yes.
00:44:08.560 That's what I suspect.
00:44:09.820 And I'm willing to be proven wrong.
00:44:11.640 That's what makes it even more suspicious to me is the fact that we're basically saying,
00:44:16.480 please, somebody present some facts like, hey, here's a video of him caught on camera.
00:44:21.120 Hey, he was transferring money to a Hamas group.
00:44:23.840 And then we'd all go, OK, this is totally fine.
00:44:25.760 But that umbrella has been expanding.
00:44:28.940 Pardon all of us for noticing.
00:44:30.020 You're calling everybody anti-Semitic for opinions that you disagree with.
00:44:33.440 And people are getting tired of it, similar to when we really wore out the term racism.
00:44:38.800 Right.
00:44:39.340 Everyone was so sick of it by the end of BLM.
00:44:41.740 Everything was racist.
00:44:42.880 Somebody wore their hair in braids.
00:44:44.100 It was racist.
00:44:44.860 It was cultural appropriation.
00:44:46.300 And then the fatigue set in and the anti-Semitism fatigue has set in.
00:44:51.320 OK, we get it.
00:44:52.980 OK, not every single person can be a pro-Hamas sympathizer.
00:44:56.400 Most people tend not to support murderous groups of people who harm citizens and harm children.
00:45:02.580 And so we need to start arguing with facts and not with so much emotion.
00:45:06.620 Robin writes, I love you, Canis, and I support free speech.
00:45:10.020 However, these protests are the same as Antifa, BLM, January 6th, et cetera.
00:45:15.220 It all needs to stop.
00:45:16.340 And I'm OK with sending all of these people to jail or deporting them.
00:45:20.140 I'm tired of watching people burn our country and flag.
00:45:22.720 And if you weren't ashamed of your behavior, you would remove your mask.
00:45:26.280 So we are not disagreeing.
00:45:27.600 I have said I support legislation that doesn't allow you to wear masks.
00:45:31.380 If you're going to protest, you don't need to cover your part, your face so that you can't
00:45:35.520 be identified.
00:45:36.080 That already lets me know that you're trying to do something illicit.
00:45:39.240 Some people might argue, well, you have to do that because then you might get harassed
00:45:42.300 for protesting a thing.
00:45:43.320 But we didn't see that during Antifa.
00:45:45.340 I don't think it's necessary for people to hide their faces.
00:45:47.780 I support people being jailed and deported for illegal protests.
00:45:50.780 So everything you're talking about, people that are burning down the country, people that
00:45:53.960 are are, which, by the way, burning the U.S. flag is not illegal.
00:45:56.560 But point being is that people that were quite literally during BLM protests burning things
00:46:00.640 down.
00:46:01.500 I wanted people I wanted them to make sweeping arrests of these people because who gets harmed
00:46:05.880 are the people, first and foremost, who have to pay for their cities to be fixed up after
00:46:11.760 these sorts of riots.
00:46:12.680 But these things are already illegal.
00:46:14.460 And so that's what I said.
00:46:16.160 If he had already been arrested for any of these things and then faced automatic deportation,
00:46:20.720 I wouldn't care.
00:46:21.660 But he wasn't arrested.
00:46:22.860 That's what made this this anomaly.
00:46:24.460 I don't think you disagree with that, right?
00:46:25.740 Like, we shouldn't just be arresting people for peaceably protesting.
00:46:29.660 If that's what he was doing, he may not have been doing that.
00:46:31.780 We haven't gotten any answers, but we should be definitely arresting people who are illegally
00:46:37.280 protesting and being violent.
00:46:39.180 So no disagreement there.
00:46:40.840 Abigail Borough writes, thank you for speaking your truth, even when it goes against the Republican
00:46:44.260 administration.
00:46:45.120 Justice and truth are not Democratic or Republican.
00:46:47.540 I agree.
00:46:48.800 And it is not fashionable.
00:46:50.540 Do you say anything against Trump and any decisions that they make?
00:46:53.820 But I'm not digging it, Marco Rubio.
00:46:56.220 I'm simply not digging it.
00:46:57.660 I don't like it.
00:46:58.460 I don't like now gaslighting and saying, well, why do you want details about this?
00:47:02.380 Let, you know, let the let ICE do their job because you were so braggadocious.
00:47:07.000 You posted it.
00:47:07.980 You made this.
00:47:08.640 You publicize this.
00:47:10.320 OK, you don't get to do that and then say, mind your business right after.
00:47:13.520 If this was still an investigation that was happening, that's totally fine, but you've
00:47:18.780 already detained him.
00:47:20.080 So don't you have the proof?
00:47:21.980 Are you looking for the proof?
00:47:23.580 Just calling everything anti-Semitism and pro-Hamas is not an answer.
00:47:27.120 We are asking you to clearly state what it is that Mahmoud Khalil did, not people who were
00:47:32.780 at the same protest at him, who went crazy and did something.
00:47:36.220 What specifically did he do that you are alleging is a good enough reason to revoke his permanent
00:47:43.040 residency and leave his wife to give birth by herself?
00:47:47.240 Tiana writes, it's unfortunate that an entire government is stepping in to limit not only
00:47:51.040 someone's right to free speech, but to make human decency subjective.
00:47:55.880 Listen, I don't know.
00:47:56.480 I don't know who is to blame here.
00:47:58.920 If this was just bad advice, maybe Trump didn't have all the details.
00:48:01.820 Maybe one of his advisors came to him and said, this kid was distributing and he said,
00:48:05.600 go for it, you know, he has to be able to have generals that he can trust to do the
00:48:10.160 vetting.
00:48:10.520 I don't even necessarily know that it is Trump's fault because all day people are coming at
00:48:14.260 him.
00:48:14.500 They've got things for him to sign, things for him to look at, and they tell him this
00:48:16.960 is going to be great.
00:48:17.620 And they give him a briefing, literally a briefing on what exactly it is that they're doing.
00:48:23.200 Were they just using rhetoric absent any fact and told him that this is going to be great
00:48:27.860 for publicity and showed that we were going to be stamping out, you know, stomping out these
00:48:31.880 illegal protests?
00:48:32.820 Maybe he genuinely thought that.
00:48:34.600 And now it's not that.
00:48:35.600 And now they're facing a PR disaster.
00:48:38.600 So you have to surround yourself with good, honest generals.
00:48:42.180 Matthew Alvarado writes, hey, I've been watching you for four days and never failed to truth.
00:48:45.860 Keep fighting the fight.
00:48:46.980 Thank you guys so much.
00:48:48.500 Reminding you that on our website, CandaceOwns.com, a new Shot in the Dark episode is now available.
00:48:54.300 This week, it is the flu shot.
00:48:56.300 You can head there to watch it to moms and dads that are learning about all of these shots
00:48:59.780 that your kids have to get.
00:49:01.340 And by have to get, I mean actually do not have to get.
00:49:03.200 If you would like to opt out of them, you can.
00:49:05.220 And they sometimes make you forget that when they're, well, calling you a mommy terrorist
00:49:09.920 or a daddy terrorist and making you feel that you are harming your child.
00:49:14.640 A bunch of rhetoric absent very little facts.
00:49:16.600 We like to provide the facts and excuse ourselves from the hyperbole so that you can make informed
00:49:21.540 decisions so all of us can think rationally and not emotionally.
00:49:24.500 That is always the exercise, by the way, of this podcast, of what we're always trying to do
00:49:28.220 is to remove emotion from things, remove crying, remove people crying in courtrooms,
00:49:33.140 a la the Harvey Weinstein, Jessica Mann breakdown, and to present to you just what the facts are
00:49:38.380 so you can decide whether or not a good decision was made.
00:49:40.840 Same for Shot in the Dark series, that you can actually make good decisions
00:49:43.720 that are guided by the knowledge and the history of how these vaccines came together.
00:49:48.560 Plus, knowing what those ingredients mean.
00:49:50.880 There are many ingredients they don't even hand to you, which would be insane.
00:49:54.220 You couldn't imagine going to the grocery store and we can't tell you what's in this food,
00:49:58.940 but it's good for you.
00:49:59.720 You'd be like, what?
00:50:00.820 That sounds crazy.
00:50:02.680 I need to see ingredients.
00:50:03.920 You need to know if I'm allergic to this stuff.
00:50:05.500 Well, that's kind of why we did this entire series.
00:50:08.400 So if you're a mom or dad looking to start a family or restart a family,
00:50:11.960 maybe want to make different decisions for your next kid,
00:50:13.940 head to CandaceOwns.com and sign up for a Shot in the Dark.
00:50:16.900 New episode just dropped.
00:50:18.200 Otherwise, you guys, we will see you tomorrow for a brand new episode.
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