Myron Gaines x Candace Owens
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 10 minutes
Summary
Candice joins Jemele to discuss the Tucker Carlson smear campaign and why he should have been allowed to be a Christian-Zionist in the first place. She also talks about how she and her husband met and fell in love with Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate, and how they became friends.
Transcript
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I think Charlie was not allowed to be anything but a Christian Zionist,
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Everything began ratcheting up after Tucker Carlson hit the stage.
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It was like a full court press effort to lie about everything.
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I do not like the way Turning Point is behaving.
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I've made that clear, and nobody is going to emotionally manipulate me
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and tell me to attack Turning Point would be to attack his legacy.
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Charlie told me years ago he was having a ton of visions
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and was telling me Turning Point was going to be the death of him.
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and strangely knew that I was going to be the only person to defend him.
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I'm excited, and thank you for making it work on short notice.
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we got to be careful about where we're at, right?
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So it's been a while since we last spoke, last time you were on.
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I remember we did After Hours where you were saving a few women's lives,
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One of the girls that you spoke to actually quit OnlyFans on that day.
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I feel like a lot of people think that, I guess,
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those conversations are not worth it or the show is all theater.
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But for me, I want to sit across from these young women
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because anybody's life could have ended that way.
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Like, I could have ended up being one of these OnlyFan girls
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if there weren't so many, like, life interventions
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Yeah, but I wanted to make sure I told you that, you know,
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on camera that she literally quit, like, not too long after you did that show.
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So kind of with that, I saw that you had did a debate on Jubilee
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you're able to really reach a demographic of women that just guys like me
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and Andrew Tate and others just aren't going to reach
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because, you know, we're abrasive in the way that we get it.
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So they might want, you know, another female's perspective on,
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you know, the detriments of feminism and everything else like that.
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how do you see feminism today with young women?
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And then what do you predict is going to happen in the next five, 10 years?
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So I was actually very interested in Tate culture,
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So I'm going to put you in that orbit of Tate culture.
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All of these male influencers that were coming out
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and calling girls B-I-T-C-Hs and hoes and all this stuff.
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Whatever you think about him, whatever you think about Tristan,
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So I kind of, that was the reason why I flew out to meet Andrew Tate.
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There was all of these conspiracies that I knew him before.
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And I met Andrew a total of two times before I did his show.
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My husband hung out with him maybe three times in his life before him and I met.
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So we were, my husband was actually friends with PJW.
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I'm never a person that will dismiss something on its face and call it a name.
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And what was actually happening was you got Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate and you got Myron Gaines
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because you perpetuated a culture of Lena Dunham's, right?
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So you're acting like men just got tired of it is what happened.
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And finally, men looked around and somebody stood up and said,
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it's actually okay to be a man and you don't have to listen to any of these women.
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You may not have liked that they were doing this on top of Lamborghinis.
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But the reality is, is that what sat beneath that was a horribly toxic culture where women
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And every time a man did something that actually felt natural to them, you called it toxic masculinity
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and books were written and Lena Dunham is writing articles and there's a show about this and
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I wrote a whole chapter about Lena Dunham in my book and she's naked on Instagram and she's
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lecturing you if you don't want to see her, you know, overweight, naked and tatted up.
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So you can't blame the culture, Tate culture until you are ready to address where this actually
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came from, which was women constantly bashing men over the head and telling them that masculinity
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Given the problems that we have, you know, obviously, whether it's me or Tate or other
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people will kind of come in and say, hey, this is what you need to do as a guy.
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You know, this is how the modern day marketplace is now when it comes to dating.
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What's your approach to kind of combating this problem from a female perspective?
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First, you have to understand the origin of feminism, right?
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You have to understand that this was not a culture and an ideology that came because they
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OK, these protests were sponsored by men in government, a lot of them homosexual, actually.
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And the reason for that was simply because they wanted to tax.
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They wanted to tax households, household income both ways.
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And also they wanted women to instead of focusing on their kids, which comes natural to women,
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right, to be the quote unquote, like I say, CEO of the household.
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They wanted to remove that and to have the children given to the government for six hours a day, beyond six hours a day, six hours a day, plus whatever sports activities, which gives the government full control over the minds of the children.
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This came straight from the pale of settlement after they assassinated the czar.
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You had these Jewish women like Emma Goldman, who came over to America.
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Emma Goldman was the mentor to what's her face from Planned Parenthood.
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I'm going to say Margaret, Margaret, Margaret Sanger.
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And so this was, in fact, a very radical communist movement that came to America and sought to overthrow families, family institutions, strong men, feminine women stands in the way of government and absolute control.
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In your book, Make Him a Sandwich, what are some of the things that you tell the women?
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Because I'm assuming it's a it's a book that's going to be centered around how women can kind of get in a marketplace, find a long term partner, get married.
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What are some of the strategies that you implement, that you tell women to implement to find a partner?
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I don't even try in my book to sell them a strategy or a technique.
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I give them the actual statistics of the fact that what was sold to you was you were going to be just like a man and you were going to be happier.
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Women are actually more miserable than they've ever been.
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If you go back and you ask most women about their grandmothers, they remember grandma being happy.
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So what they actually sold to you, now you've achieved this equality, quote unquote equality.
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And women have never been more miserable and women are popping more pills than they were popping and finding it harder to find a partner and wondering why.
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Well, it's because you attacked natural masculinity.
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You told men that they shouldn't be allowed to lead.
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You were convinced psychologically in a classroom, as I was back when I wanted to be a feminist or I thought feminism was cool.
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And I think that that's how you change things without trying to say, here's a strategy and here's how we're going to move forward.
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And I think the rest of the stuff happens naturally, or I hope.
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For you on your journey, when did you like figure out that feminism was a lie?
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Like, was there a certain event that triggered it that you're like, holy crap, this is this is yes.
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Actually, I think it's in this book or it's in my last book.
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Actually, it's in blackout of this teacher that I had.
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Maybe it was Women's Studies 201 at the University of Rhode Island.
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And at that time, I was like, yeah, I'm a feminist.
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And this teacher, I realized very quickly, was not actually motivated by wanting equality.
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She was I was in a classroom where she was trying to convince me that every problem that we had in society was due to men.
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This was a literal class that was designed to basically teach women to hate men.
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Like, no matter all, all you had to do to get an A was she would introduce any problem.
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She could have lost her keys that morning and been like, why did this happen?
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Do you know who designed the whole concept of a car key and who designed the couch that you lost it in this morning?
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It was it became to a point where for me, it was like laughable.
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And but there was this one particular class where it clicked for me.
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Because when I was in college, I had an eating disorder.
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So I was sitting in her class and I had I was anorexic.
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And she gets into this topic of anorexia, eating disorders.
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And she gave us some statistic about the amount, the percentage of women that have eating disorders.
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And I'm making this up now, but it was something like 80 percent of people who have eating disorders are women.
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And we were supposed to say and she did say that it was because men control the advertising agency and men want women to be skinny.
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And I had literally I'm sitting here having experience nothing to do with a man, like nothing.
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And I'm listening to her try to psychologically convince me that my eating disorder came from a man when it just factually didn't.
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Most people who suffer with anorexia know it's a control mechanism.
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It actually has nothing even to do with weight.
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It just is like this is the one thing you can control.
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How many of what percentage of people are juicing up with steroids?
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If we said that 90 percent of it was men, would you have presented to the class that it was because of women?
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Right. Because women are telling them they have to look like this.
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And she was I mean, when I say she went white and she said to me and I always tell the story on stage.
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She said to me, I feel like you were sent to me from the men's department.
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I told her that I told her I told her back that I was sent to her from the common sense department.
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And that everything couldn't be because of men.
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And so I think that was kind of the first time that it clicked for me that this was some sort of a psychological program.
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Like I wasn't like I was never a gun ho feminist.
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But if you had asked me, what do you think about this?
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I'm going to very quickly be like, of course, we need feminism.
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And then I was kind of thinking, man, these women are really annoying in this classroom because then there were the majors that were there.
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You know, the people, these women that were tatted up and like growing their armpit hair out.
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You know, we had those people in class and I was like, I don't like any of these people.
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So it made me think that there was something more to the feminist movement, I think, which was indoctrination.
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OK, so I think you've been able to do what every woman dreams of, have a family, have children, have your dream man.
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And but simultaneously being able to also, you know, run a business and do what you want to do.
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And I noticed when you were debating on Jubilee, some of them tried to say, oh, well, you're a hypocrite.
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You're over here talking about feminism being bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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But, you know, you obviously have a lot of things set up where you maximize your ability to be with your family.
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Right. You do your show, get out of there, spend time with your family.
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What would you say to the people that sit there and try to call you a hypocrite because, you know, you're successful in your own right.
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But you've been able to also balance a family, which many women can't do.
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First and foremost, do not allow people to rule you by exceptions.
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What I mean by that is it is such a mistake to look at my life and to say, Candice did this.
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I get to do a podcast from home and I am actually doing something that I enjoy.
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If you find any woman that makes it and she's successful, what is she doing?
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She's tapping into her femininity communication.
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We, if you have a daughter and a son, you know, this women starts, girls start speaking
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faster and we will speak more words from men for the rest of our lives.
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And when you actually look and I ask people in this chapter, who is the most, if I ask you
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the question right now, who is the most successful man in the world?
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I was going to say like from a financial perspective, which is, yeah, sure.
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If I said who's the most successful man in the world, who would you say?
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I mean, you could say like the richest guy in the world who I would be Elon, even though
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But that's the right, you would say Elon or you would say.
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Something based on meritocracy, finances, and status.
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If I ask you who is the most successful woman in the world, what would you say?
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Like off the top of your mind, like what, what is, what, what are the names that come
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It's an ambiguous, like you're like, okay, well, are we going to go off career?
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But most people would say like Taylor Swift or Oprah.
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These women are nowhere near the richest women in the world.
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Nobody knows the name of the richest woman in the world.
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I'm like, these are the names that you would say off the top of your head.
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If I asked you who's the most successful, nobody knows, everybody knows the names of
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the most, uh, the, the richest men in the world.
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And yet nobody knows the names of the richest women in the world, right?
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And the women that you do name actually all tapped into their femininity.
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Taylor Swift was writing songs about relationships.
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Oprah was communicating to the housewife, right?
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They're tapping in actually to the one thing that actually you think they're standing against.
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But they tap into their femininity and found success actually.
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And women do not, um, when we think about success, we don't measure it in terms of finances.
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That's why these women we think are the most quote unquote successful women in the world.
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So I do a chapter and I speak about that in my book about who the richest woman in the world is.
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And then the next 10 women who are the richest in the world are all rich because of who they divorced.
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So what is the picture that we're recognizing here?
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Uh, we don't measure success in the same terms as men measure success, nor should we.
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And it's important for women not to think that becoming financially rich somehow means that you are successful or that you have, um, triumphed something in life.
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And since having children, like how has that like shifted your priorities, uh, as far as, I mean, and you can go into as much detail as little as you want, uh, as far as like how you've kind of prioritized child rearing versus like maybe your career and doing social media as much.
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Because I noticed, you know, before you were super, super active, you still post obviously every day, but now it's like, you know, there's, you have other priorities.
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I would say having kids made me more secure than ever before.
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And also I have real stake in this fight before these were just ideas.
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Once you have kids, you have actually a real stake in the future of America.
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So when I am podcasting, the subjects that I am covering to me are existential, right?
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Are we being ruled by pedophiles and criminals?
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This is now existential because my children will inherit the America that I fight for or the America that I remain silent about.
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And just to kind of finish off with the feminism real quick.
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So what do you think are the top three things holding women back from fulfillment and happiness right now?
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The number one thing I would say that's holding women back would be not understanding the history of feminism.
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I think, I think once you know that everything like knowledge is actually power.
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I would say the second thing that's holding them back is the psychology of peer pressure.
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And that is the psychology and the peer pressure starts when we are in school with women being told you have to go to college.
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The last thing you should be thinking about, you have plenty of time.
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Biologically speaking, you literally don't have plenty of time.
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Men might have plenty of time, biologically speaking, but your body is telling you you don't.
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And so I think, and then that kind of gets into the education.
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The education system truly is just Soviet propaganda in the classrooms.
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And so they're ignoring their gut instinct and following the herd.
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So understanding what feminism is and how it came into place makes it a lot easier to understand everything else.
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What do you think so far about this switch in politics?
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What do you think so far about this administration with Trump?
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Honestly, the first thing that I would say is that it makes me sad because obviously I spent a lot of time helping Trump get elected, trying to help Trump get elected.
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Yeah, he's a part of my political story, right?
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A part of my political awakening, if you want to call it that.
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And it feels to me like when he said, what Epstein files, you know, are we still talking about the Epstein files?
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We did everything we could and we were supposed to be fighting with Swallop.
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What the Loch Ness Monster, which is Israel, rose up and swallowed our hero whole.
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And I think we all can very clearly see what has happened on the basis of who is now supporting him.
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The literal Never Trump movement is now supporting Trump.
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And telling us that we're radicals, the people who initially supported Trump.
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So there's been a complete flip and they're trying to use this mechanism of psychology to convince us, oh, we just got here, but we noticed this rot, which is the original MAGA movement.
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But I think it also indicates to us that there is something very scary and sinister that is in D.C., right?
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That turns good men, like petrifies good men that go in maybe with the best of intentions and then they see something else.
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Where is, I mean, day in and day out, Kash Patel and Dan were saying we're going to do this.
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There's nothing here, actually, to see about these Epstein files.
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You kind of made your show off of what we need to happen with the Epstein files.
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So if you were to rate them, because people love asking me this question, so now I get to ask someone else.
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What grade would you give them right now at this point based on, you know, obviously the Epstein files, I agree with you.
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It's going to probably be a huge negative in his legacy at the end of the day.
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If you had to grade his presidency so far within 11 months in roughly, what would you say?
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So if you're asking me to grade, you know how you would have those teachers where if you would take a test and they would automatically flunk you if you didn't put your name on the paper?
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The Epstein thing for me is like automatic flunk if you don't put your name on the paper, right?
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So if like I'm a mom now, so this was the most important thing to me was figuring out where the pedophiles are in our society.
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This for me, like becoming a mother, because you have to remember Epstein and I did a partial series, a mini series on what we discovered about him.
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Bankrupted people in England and was allowed to do this.
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He had an office on Harvard campus despite only having a high school diploma, which I can't even verify his high school diploma, if I'm being honest with you.
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And we were this was going to show us everything.
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He had some notorious fight with Harvey Weinstein right before Harvey went down.
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So now I'm kind of going back in my mind and thinking that's a question I should probably ask.
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Harvey Weinstein is what they were fighting about.
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I mean, this man was just handed the keys to Les Wexner's empire, which even how that empire started has got a shady story with a guy who said that Les Wexner was a literal devil.
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He was the guy who controlled Victoria's Secret.
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And then suddenly that guy jumps off the Golden Gate Bridge and decides to give his company to Les Wexner.
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So we had this rare opportunity to really understand how the matrix was put together, in my view.
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And Trump took us to this line and then balked.
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Maybe it's because he almost survived his assassination attempt.
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And maybe they put him in a room and said, here's how it's going to go.
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So I'm going to try not to judge him because I don't know what he is going through.
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But for me, the Epstein files was a name on the paper.
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They're in the process right now of getting everything classified.
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I understand that there were a bunch of emails that came out.
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I can tell because I'm seeing nothing but CNN clips on it.
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Anytime they love to hit Trump when it comes to this Epstein thing, what are your thoughts
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on the latest information that came out recently with the emails and everything else like that?
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When he initially balked on discussing Epstein and Pam Bondi did the whole crazy bit, I was
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told that it was because there was donors he was protecting.
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I have never felt and I'm a pretty good vibe person.
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So the nature of the emails, was he at a party when people should just think about that?
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People say, oh, they exchange like he was on his plane, never on the island, but like
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If you were at a party, I mean, you live in Miami.
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If you were at a party, the idea that somebody could be at any club that you are at or any
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party that you are at has somebody that's underage and looks like she could be 18.
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And that doesn't mean that doesn't really track to me as any evidence of anything other
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And Jeffrey Epstein was very clearly running a sophisticated network and a blackmail ring.
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So I don't think that whatever they have on Epstein with Trump and Epstein is going to
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And I have never felt that vibe from him at all.
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But I do think he's protecting some of his owners.
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I do believe that because they I look at them and they just creep me out.
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And he took a lot of money from Miriam Adelson, the Adelson family, hundreds of millions of
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And I think that's kind of the beginning of everything.
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So when they started leaking these emails, I read it as like a public threat to him.
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Maybe they're arguing about something in the background and he's holding a line on something.
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Because they obviously have all the Epstein stuff.
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And so if people don't listen, they probably do a little trickle.
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I read it as like a public threat and they want something from him.
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And they're going to be like capitulate or we will hit you with everything they have.
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And we need to have a leader that says just comes right out in a press conference and says,
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I'm going to tell them to release everything and I'm going to hold the line.
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We'll be like, OK, like as long as you are not implicated in harming children.
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I can deal with you being at a party that Epstein was at and finding out that whatever it is
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That's my that's my gut instinct about the whole thing.
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I think I don't he doesn't give me the vibe that he's like, you know, doing that type of
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But I do think that maybe there's something in there that looks really bad optically.
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And that's might be why or to protect donors, like you said, because I look at it like
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The Democrats would have exposed that during my administration if there really was.
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So, you know, that's that's another thing as well.
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00:27:07.720
Speaking of the Zionist lobby, we're talking about Mary Maddelson and Epstein and everything
00:27:12.940
Last time we spoke, you were literally like a week or two before you left Daily Wire.
00:27:19.780
And obviously a lot of things have transpired, right?
00:27:24.640
Meanwhile, your opposition, Ben Shapiro, has had a meteoric downfall.
00:27:28.040
Can you kind of take me through that day of what happened when, because I remember you
00:27:35.000
had been in Miami for a bit and then I think you might've went back to Daily Wire for like
00:27:38.740
a day or two and then they said, hey, we're going to get rid of you, blah, blah, blah.
00:27:41.440
Can you kind of take me through how that all transpired and how you've been able to kind
00:27:45.000
of use that cancellation from their perspective to just utterly destroy them and flip the rolls?
00:27:50.780
So, gosh, I was fired in, what was it, March of 2024?
00:27:54.320
2024 and I obviously was very surprised about it.
00:27:58.260
I was, even if I sensed it was coming, I would have never have thought that it would have
00:28:04.580
I would have thought that we would do everything that we can to keep things friendly.
00:28:08.880
I mean, you don't want to work for any company.
00:28:10.460
It's just unprofessional to want to work, to dedicate years of your life to any company
00:28:14.200
and not have things, even if they're not on great terms, you still want to make it
00:28:19.100
TMZ reported, and I have to ask you this because I've always been wanting to ask you this.
00:28:21.720
And they reported that the reason, one of the reasons why they wanted to get rid of you
00:28:27.660
And when we talked about Jews, we hit the sound effect, the cha-ching sound effect.
00:28:37.940
And it came, gosh, am I allowed to say anything about this?
00:28:52.940
I can neither confirm or deny whether or not that is true.
00:28:57.220
But what I will say is I would have never expected that sort of a PR.
00:29:02.720
I mean, it was just, it's just the opposite of the way that I am.
00:29:08.340
I have obviously very, a lot of disagreements with them now.
00:29:12.020
But I had a very peaceful working relationship with them.
00:29:16.180
Like, when I think about them now and what their contributions are to what we're fighting,
00:29:21.280
I could never go back and say, like, one bad word about how they treated me.
00:29:24.520
They were really good employers and very communicative.
00:29:29.140
I mean, I think my contract with PragerU was, like, two pages.
00:29:33.880
Marissa never even wanted to talk about contracts.
00:29:35.600
She's like, if we ever have to talk about the contract, she was like, you should probably leave.
00:29:37.920
Because, like, I don't want you here if you're not happy.
00:29:40.980
Obviously had a very great relationship with Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA.
00:29:44.600
So I, for me, having never had any sort of a debacle ever in my life in terms of working for people,
00:29:58.220
And I didn't know if we were going to survive it.
00:30:01.060
Genuinely, my husband and I, it felt like you are just, it's like trench warfare.
00:30:06.700
You're not even thinking about the implications.
00:30:08.320
It's like, I just have to put one foot in front of the other and fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.
00:30:12.140
And I am, I, first and foremost, just grateful to God.
00:30:17.740
Grateful to God that my husband was just rock solid.
00:30:22.360
I think if my husband had shown even a fraction of apprehension, fear, anything, I probably would have come apart.
00:30:30.260
And this, again, gets back to the importance of marriage.
00:30:33.360
Because there are things that men are designed to deal with.
00:30:35.460
Women are designed, like I, I was good on the, on the psychology games of what they were trying to do.
00:30:40.100
But in terms of just getting down in and building the infrastructure and like, okay, we need to rebuild the podcast.
00:30:50.840
I mean, even because my team came with me, which was something that was also a huge blessing.
00:30:54.620
I'm so grateful to my team because I went to them and I was like, I don't know if this is going to work.
00:31:02.460
So if you leave the comfort of where you are, you are taking a risk.
00:31:06.800
And we don't know where this thing is going to end.
00:31:10.660
Also, the chances of this podcast working when we're banned from everywhere, even YouTube demonetized us.
00:31:18.120
And they took, they were just like, we're, we're coming with you.
00:31:20.820
So to look back on that, it's just a tremendous amount of gratitude and appreciation for the audience, my team, and first and foremost, my husband, you know.
00:31:31.660
So he helped you through that, through that process.
00:31:33.380
Cause yeah, I remember like it was all over the place and, you know, obviously there was enormous amount of pressure, but you were able to use that to your favor.
00:31:39.200
You get let go from Daily Wire, you start up your own thing.
00:31:42.340
And, you know, obviously this topic is a very controversial topic when it comes to Zionism, Jewish power, and these other things.
00:31:51.240
What is, what red-pilled you on this topic that made you say, I got to speak up?
00:31:55.840
Even though this is a very taboo topic, you get, you know, like you said, deal with demonization, cancellation, losing an employer.
00:32:06.340
And I think people don't realize that that's real.
00:32:09.000
Like, I think people who are atheists don't understand that a part of this whole psych operation was to make you an atheist.
00:32:17.260
Because if you knew for certain that when you die, there is more, which there is, you would be living your life differently, right?
00:32:26.360
And so at the very moment that I know anything is true, I can't tell a lie, right?
00:32:32.320
So when I was working, and giving the example again for PragerU, I genuinely, first off, wasn't up on the topic of Israel.
00:32:41.780
There was no pressure on me to get out there and say things that are pro-Israel.
00:32:45.700
I just genuinely believed it in the same way that I tell people Charlie Kirk just believed it.
00:32:50.540
He just was like, yeah, Israel, I'm a Christian.
00:32:52.660
And obviously, Israel has biblical connotations.
00:32:59.020
And so I support Israel, almost like it's a periphery.
00:33:07.360
And people who attack that and assume that everyone's on an agenda should stop doing that.
00:33:12.760
At the moment that it kind of became, and I would say after October 7th, they were kind of demanding that you take a side.
00:33:22.440
This was truly the mental turning point for me.
00:33:27.400
And he held up this paper where he showed how many deaths there were every year of Palestinians versus Israelis.
00:33:37.260
And he was being totally a jackass about it, was just kind of using humor, which is the best tool, and being like, so what's the equation of how many lives are worth?
00:33:47.220
So I'm going, okay, so I'm supposed to believe these are the evil people, but this is how many people.
00:33:52.540
And then I had Norm Finkelstein on my show at the Daily Wire because I was like, let me go to someone who actually is not an anti-Semite, right?
00:34:00.340
His parents survived the Holocaust, and he's a professor who was denied tenure for a ridiculous reason because he is committed to telling the truth about Gaza, and he wrote so many books on it.
00:34:12.660
So that, like, red-pilled you on the topic, like, seeing the deaths and everything.
00:34:15.200
Because no one ever sees, like, the Palestinian perspective because it's, like, almost, like, in America, especially if you're a conservative, the default setting is we support Israel unequivocally every single time, and you never even hear the other perspective.
00:34:26.080
So, and I've said that, too, like, October 7th kind of opened up this discussion, whereas, like, I remember before it, like, if you talked about it, you would get demonetized.
00:34:32.900
Man, that's what got me demonetized was that topic, especially before October 7th.
00:34:47.280
Who was—oh, gosh, I have to remember his name.
00:34:53.520
He actually was low-key my favorite because he was so over-the-top.
00:34:58.460
He was so over-the-top, and he was like, you can't even say.
00:35:07.800
And I think that was one of your last debates you did on Daily Wire, too.
00:35:10.920
I think you were still on the Daily Wire there.
00:35:12.460
Did Ben ever, like, have a conversation with you about this, if you could disclose it?
00:35:15.680
Like, he just, like, never talked to you in person about this.
00:35:21.000
Because I remember seeing a clip of him, like, at some type of social gathering, like, late in the year of that year, saying,
00:35:27.160
oh, yeah, I think what she's doing is, you know, despicable, blah, blah, blah.
00:35:31.200
No, and after that, we never had a conversation.
00:35:35.040
So that was, that happened, and that's, we never had a conversation after that, so.
00:35:41.680
So he didn't even have the decency to, like, figure out, hey, you know, what's going on here, have a conversation.
00:36:02.780
Because I, I taught, people try to tell me, like, you know, because I talk about world Jewry being a thing,
00:36:07.560
and how, you know, it's an international cabal that works together, you know, for the betterment of Israel,
00:36:13.420
And I use that example of how they got you literally banned in Australia,
00:36:16.140
even though they represent, like, 2% of the population.
00:36:24.400
I was going to tour in Australia, and the Zionist lobby found out, and they publicly posted,
00:36:31.440
it was, like, the Zionist organization of Australia, maybe it was ZOA, publicly posted this thing.
00:36:36.260
Like, they're a equivalent of AIPAC, right, essentially?
00:36:42.300
And I will say, on the conservative side of Australia, the Jewish conservatives did also
00:36:49.980
write a letter in support of me saying, like, we disagree with her, but she should be allowed
00:36:54.160
But they were effectively the ADL, and they posted this thing and publicly said that I should
00:37:03.580
They lied and said that I said that Jews, what did they say that I said?
00:37:08.460
That Jews drink the blood of children, which was, I mean, it's just, like, completely.
00:37:16.080
I mean, the way that that came about was me liking a tweet, literally a like of a tweet
00:37:20.400
of a person who called out Rabbi Shmuley and said, Rabbi Shmuley had told a huge lie about
00:37:26.500
me, so they were replying to Rabbi Shmuley and said, you didn't include that she, and then,
00:37:32.420
like, told the truth about what I said, and then they ended their thing with, are you drunk
00:37:37.680
So me liking this tweet, they went full media press court.
00:37:47.980
Like, this person debunked Rabbi Shmuley's lie, but this is how they lie.
00:37:54.220
Even if it's hyperbole or whatever, it's like, oh, look at you, vile, antisemite.
00:37:57.740
Yeah, and I'm like, obviously, I like this tweet because he defended, like, he pointed out
00:38:01.580
that Rabbi Shmuley told a ridiculous lie that had nothing to do with anything.
00:38:04.660
Yeah, he said that my followers threatened to kill him or something.
00:38:21.560
And they decided that I am too dangerous to speak in their country.
00:38:25.340
So that I still think, and this has been my belief, everything that is happening, God
00:38:32.900
So when that happened, it was because Australians needed to understand something about their country.
00:38:37.880
Because people who didn't like me, who didn't support me or weren't conservative in their
00:38:42.560
country, kind of looked up and went, why is this, like, mom of four being banned from our
00:38:48.560
No matter what I think about her, I certainly don't think she's a threat, that she shouldn't
00:38:52.160
Like, and we've got literally people who have been accused of murder, people who have violated
00:38:58.280
their visas in other countries, people that rap about murder are allowed in here.
00:39:01.840
And you're telling me she's saying something that's so dangerous.
00:39:05.020
And it, I think, contributed to more people listening to my podcast.
00:39:10.200
So I do feel we are in this time where the more that they lie, it rebounds very quickly
00:39:17.820
onto them and it creates more pressure against them.
00:39:22.220
So yeah, because you can never lie once, right?
00:39:24.280
Like they always say when you lie once, then you have to keep lying to perpetuate that same
00:39:31.480
And then you were able to get, how'd you go about being allowed to come back to New
00:39:35.680
Did they write a petition or how'd that happen?
00:39:38.960
So they have a reciprocal system, which is weird.
00:39:41.020
But if Australia bans you, you get automatically banned in New Zealand.
00:39:46.720
Tony Burke in Australia banned me and they have some weird reciprocal system.
00:39:50.140
Then when they found out their minister and his name was Chris something, I should remember
00:39:59.920
So New Zealand actually stood firm on, on free speech.
00:40:03.760
So like basically when one party does something, the other one kind of reciprocates it, but
00:40:09.760
What other ways I guess has the Zionist lobby came after you?
00:40:19.440
Did they allow me to get you demonetized on YouTube too?
00:40:24.420
The awesome Jew who was in attendance, by the way, when Charlie got peer oppression in
00:40:32.360
They were like, just start mass reporting her for violence and violent rhetoric.
00:40:40.700
And then I went to all strikes overnight and YouTube demonetized us.
00:40:47.340
It was like September, maybe it was four months.
00:40:50.660
And so that was, you can't make any money on YouTube.
00:40:55.020
So we had to then, yeah, we had to then build our own website, which we did.
00:41:00.240
So what it forces you to do is to kind of, to become your own power center, right?
00:41:04.680
If you ban people everywhere and you say, you can't, you know, you're not allowed to
00:41:07.920
fight in this realm, we're going to start building our own realms.
00:41:10.140
And I think they're learning that lesson is that there seems to be the opposite thing
00:41:14.040
So they, yeah, they would attack us on YouTube.
00:41:17.500
They obviously got a petition to get me fired, banned from Australia.
00:41:21.780
They went after like my family members, obviously.
00:41:26.060
They tried to pretend that there was all this friction between me and my husband's father.
00:41:36.240
But they wanted that narrative out there because it was part of the cancellation is
00:41:49.500
Of course, there's nothing wrong with having disagreements.
00:41:52.160
And I'm just thinking, whatever, what else they attacked is, it's just, it's been nonstop.
00:41:56.720
And then of course the lawsuits, you know, nonstop legal lawfare.
00:41:59.880
So right now, you know, between you, Tucker, Nick, they're attacking all three of you guys
00:42:07.900
saying, oh, you guys are anti-Semites and you guys are pushing this whole thing.
00:42:11.100
And I give credit because you three have done an incredible job of, you know,
00:42:15.460
awaring the American public on this topic when it comes to Israel's control in the Middle
00:42:19.960
East, what they're doing over there, how they've been able to get away with this for
00:42:24.380
And, you know, they've been targeting you guys quite a bit.
00:42:28.640
And I see that, you know, there's been a bunch of drama with Megyn Kelly and Ben Shapiro and
00:42:34.440
What are your thoughts on the entire, on the situation?
00:42:36.560
Because like, you know, anytime they mentioned Tucker, you're right there, right?
00:42:41.320
Even Bibi Netanyahu name checking us was crazy on the TikTok thing and why they needed to buy
00:42:47.740
They're letting you know, this is a psychological operation.
00:42:56.160
I have no idea why they kept attaching me to Tucker Carlson.
00:43:07.460
And then they realized, oh, we don't, we can't control them.
00:43:10.240
And we started having to build our own power centers and they didn't like that.
00:43:15.800
So, and then with the Nick Fuentes thing, I promise you, I had never heard the Nick Fuentes backstory
00:43:21.420
until after I was fired from Daily Wire, there was this Twitter audio or X audio space that
00:43:28.300
he did with Jeremy Boring, who at that time was the CEO of Daily Wire.
00:43:35.360
Nobody can look at that backstory of what happened to him and not realize that it was just evil.
00:43:42.800
This is like, he was, had his life ahead of him.
00:43:47.600
You're like, no matter how I feel about him, I root for him against the Zionist lobby.
00:43:53.720
And this rule that you can't speak to Nick, why can't I speak to Nick?
00:43:57.320
Can't my audience decide whether or not they want to listen to him?
00:43:59.700
There's this false idea of platforming him that somehow that's going to be harmful.
00:44:08.080
If I platform him and Nick seems likable, right?
00:44:12.880
And then he goes on his show and he says horrific things.
00:44:19.440
They're actually then going to have questions about me.
00:44:25.180
There's nothing such thing as platforming ideas.
00:44:27.320
If people are following that idea, that is on the people.
00:44:30.800
And they are smart enough to make their own decisions.
00:44:32.660
I don't need to tell people to listen to Nick, to not listen to Nick, to platform Nick, to not platform Nick.
00:44:39.380
If I don't want to talk to Nick, I don't talk to Nick.
00:44:40.880
And there's something about the true free markets that Zionists can't stand.
00:44:45.200
They're constantly manipulating the markets so that people think that they are number one and they're not.
00:44:50.160
They actually require censorship in order for them to be number one.
00:44:55.400
And, you know, seeing Ben Shapiro have a meltdown, you know, you know, they had the Republican Jewish coalition a couple of weeks ago.
00:45:02.660
And just saying, like, oh, these people are platforming, whatever.
00:45:05.160
I find it interesting how, like, they never, like, because when you guys, if you actually listen to the interviews that you guys do a lot of the times, it's like, oh, this makes perfect sense.
00:45:12.400
I understand, like, why you have this worldview.
00:45:16.840
They always criticize you guys directly saying they're pushing anti-Semitism.
00:45:23.160
And they don't even want to have the discussion or debate or anything.
00:45:25.940
Yeah, because when you hear Nick Fuentes' backstory, it's compelling.
00:45:30.740
I actually haven't gotten around to watching his interview with Tucker.
00:45:36.420
And then people look at it and go, what is up with the Zionist lobby that they're going after 18-year-old kids for questioning Israel?
00:45:43.440
That's actually what they're fearful of, is people understanding just how long this has been going on, how vicious it is that it will even go after an 18-year-old who's just asking questions, literally.
00:46:01.160
And, you know, I credit you, Tucker, Nick, some of the biggest voices in it, like, waking people up to this problem that we've had for so long.
00:46:09.040
I mean, it got us into wars, and I do think that we're making an impact on it because when I remember when Trump bombed Iran, he had a lot of pressure on him not to do it.
00:46:17.820
And he was, like, kind of going back and forth.
00:46:19.880
I know Steve Bannon had, like, went to the White House and told him, don't do it or at least push it off a little bit.
00:46:26.080
Who knows if, you know, if he didn't have that pressure from his base to not go to war, if he would have expanded the conflict because we know Israel wanted to.
00:46:33.280
If this was, like, 2003, who knows if we wouldn't have just gotten into, like, a full-on war.
00:46:36.400
But I think big voices in social media that we didn't have back in 2003 were able to kind of pressure, like, hey, we voted for no wars.
00:46:43.420
Like, and then it kind of forced him to be like, oh, I want to keep the base.
00:46:49.240
And then you saw the neocons go, oh, you were panicking.
00:46:52.040
It was just going to be, and the whole time you guys were just panicking, and it was just one response.
00:46:55.820
You thought there was going to be a broader war.
00:46:59.600
And he tweeted, and he said, no, it's because we panicked and freaked out that this didn't happen.
00:47:05.680
This is like saying robbers outside, you're trying to rob your house, your dogs start barking, and the robber goes away.
00:47:13.600
It's like, no, it's because the dogs were barking that this thing didn't happen.
00:47:17.280
So, no, every time you are, which, by the way, he still wants, he still wants his war with Iran.
00:47:24.400
And we have to continue to bark and continue to say that it's not okay.
00:47:27.800
And it worked because we held the line on it and used our platforms to say, this is like, this is the red line.
00:47:34.560
And he literally was very ambiguous about it for days.
00:47:38.080
So, and I think a big part of that is from all the pressure from his base with people that have big platforms.
00:47:42.500
And this is kind of a beautiful thing where we have with alternative media,
00:47:45.400
because I remember, and you remember too, we're around the same age.
00:47:51.100
And we don't, you know, there was no one else talking about it.
00:47:56.320
And it wasn't until 10, 15 years later that the smoke evaporated.
00:48:01.160
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So let me ask you about, I guess, real quick with Harvey Weinstein.
00:49:19.120
What got you interested in getting his story out there?
00:49:21.920
So actually, I started working on the Harvey Weinstein documentary when I was at the Daily Wire, which, yeah.
00:49:26.840
So somebody on his team reached out to me because they thought that I would be the only person that would look at this fairly.
00:49:33.640
Which is interesting because obviously he and I, and he's gave millions to the ADL.
00:49:39.700
So we were this very unlikely duo and I thought he was guilty.
00:49:44.020
I mean, there were so many women that were coming out.
00:49:45.960
But this is how the media is effective at psychology is that they know if they say something over and over again, it becomes true.
00:49:51.360
And actually, I realized I didn't know anything about the case.
00:49:55.660
There is no question that Harvey Weinstein should not be in prison right now.
00:49:59.660
And that's the definition of Me Too right there.
00:50:06.780
But it should terrify any woman, especially me who has three sons, that they can do that.
00:50:12.720
I think Me Too, what it represented was hostile takeovers of companies.
00:50:18.040
If you start to go back, you look at from Michael Jackson to Kanye to Britney Spears.
00:50:27.240
And I think Me Too was a proliferation where they hostily took over a bunch of companies.
00:50:37.440
I actually do now have it on my mind that I want to ask him about this argument he had
00:50:44.000
I was very passionate about just telling the truth because the Me Too movement is problematic.
00:50:51.960
So I don't care what people think or need to think.
00:50:58.620
I'm not voting for him to be the president of the United States.
00:51:01.580
I'm telling you that he was accused of something and the media completely lied to you about
00:51:08.920
And it should terrify you because it means that our courts are corrupted.
00:51:24.280
And I give you credit because, you know, you've you're very brave for doing that, because
00:51:27.620
just like with the George Floyd documentary that you did, which was going against the
00:51:32.940
A lot of people gave you, you know, slack for that.
00:51:35.080
Like, oh, why are you interviewing this, you know, pervert?
00:51:37.280
And why are you going ahead and, you know, trying to destroy the legacy of George Floyd?
00:51:41.260
So, you know, I give you a lot of credit for like, because I do think that this whole
00:51:44.460
like, you know, me too situation and false accusations is very real.
00:51:48.680
You know, athletes and professionals are constantly getting accused of stuff.
00:51:52.060
I mean, we can look at what's going on with Andrew Tate, where, you know, it's like
00:51:55.100
every other month, you know, something is getting dropped or a loss is being dropped
00:51:58.660
here or they're finding out that this woman lied here or the
00:52:01.080
there was a, I think a pro soccer player that recently got out after having his life
00:52:05.540
So like this me too thing is a huge problem in the Western world.
00:52:10.640
So let me ask you this with Charlie Kirk, because you're definitely one of the most
00:52:15.140
outspoken people when it comes to the Charlie Kirk investigation and what's going on there.
00:52:25.280
I'll kind of just turn it to you and you can just tell me because you've been looking at
00:52:31.460
Can you take us through what you think happened on that day?
00:52:36.920
And the timeline in general, who you think is actually responsible, you know, who might
00:52:41.620
be covering things up and everything like that.
00:52:44.180
So I can tell you that I view the Charlie Kirk assassination as a military hit.
00:52:51.280
I do not know who called the hit yet, but it's, it's military.
00:52:55.760
There's no question in my mind that it was a military.
00:52:58.360
Well, I think I don't view the U.S. military as being controlled by the U.S.
00:53:05.160
I mean, there's, there are a lot of people you can, we've been globalized for a very long
00:53:11.200
I don't know that there's a difference in, there's decisions that are made in Ukraine
00:53:17.580
I mean, this is the tentacles of the U.S. military.
00:53:21.380
It's a much broader and longer conversation that needs to be had.
00:53:24.640
I mean, I think since JFK was assassinating, I don't know who's in control of anything,
00:53:28.700
Much of what we see in the political realm is just an illusion.
00:53:31.700
We're talking about what's happening in Congress and decisions are made in boardrooms, in my
00:53:36.780
With Charlie, I think that with everything that I have uncovered, there was very clearly
00:53:46.460
And I'm putting faith in quotation marks because Charlie would have believed the people that came
00:53:54.120
to him and told him to grow the organization and, you know, to become the boots on the ground
00:54:01.460
And the characters, the cast of characters and the pastors that are around him, rotten,
00:54:14.200
And what it's looking like is that that Calvary Chapel has been accused of tons in the past
00:54:23.060
and also accused of hostily taking over well-meaning faith organizations and ministries with Rob McCoy
00:54:33.760
It's looking to me like Turning Point's apparatus provided an opportunity.
00:54:39.800
Now, who they're actually working for, what they're actually doing, I don't know.
00:54:44.980
But I can tell you it is not about Jesus Christ.
00:54:49.020
And this would explain why, for some unknown reason, Christian Zionist influencers have been
00:54:56.440
losing their minds about the idea of investigating the Charlie Kirk assassination.
00:55:01.960
Like I looked up and I'm going, why are Christian Zionists trying to use Bible verses to say that
00:55:10.980
The first thing you do when there's been a murder is to look around at the money,
00:55:21.180
Like, and then you pair that with the actual impossible things that they are telling us.
00:55:29.780
His neck just stopped a 30-odd six from 150 yards away.
00:55:34.640
It was just your modern Christian miracle, you know?
00:55:43.000
People using the Bible to psychologically convince you.
00:55:47.240
You know, Jesus performed miracles and this was just one of them.
00:55:53.940
I consider it a clue that they are lying about where Charlie was at in terms of his faith
00:56:02.740
They lied about the fact that he had said, I have no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel
00:56:08.900
I just watched them all lie because I needed to see where all the stakes were.
00:56:13.940
The one thing that connects all of these lies is faith.
00:56:18.520
So that's where the focus of my investigation is right now.
00:56:21.600
And I'm coming up looking and going, all of these characters are dirty that were around
00:56:25.720
So you're not going to hold up a Bible like a false prophet and tell me not to look here
00:56:39.740
And if anybody is using the Bible to tell you not to pursue truth, you are dealing with
00:56:46.560
Who do you think, I guess, I know you said the people around them, but who do you think
00:56:51.880
I think Charlie was not allowed to be anything but a Christian Zionist.
00:57:02.820
When I look at the timeline that I put together, some weird stuff, this Egyptian plane that started
00:57:08.960
tracking him, everything began ratcheting up after Tucker Carlson hit the stage.
00:57:22.000
So I think Charlie was done as he, as Megan showed the video, he was telling Tucker to
00:57:27.500
go max, all of the things that they lied about, we've now proven.
00:57:38.740
You only lie because you have something to cover up.
00:57:41.560
No matter what the lie is, you only lie because there's something that you're hiding.
00:57:44.900
So if they had all come out right when Charlie died, if Seth Dillon, who pressed Charlie in
00:57:49.020
the Hamptons was like, oh, my gosh, my biggest regret is the last time I saw Charlie, I was
00:57:56.340
And this is a reminder that you never know when you're going to see somebody last.
00:57:58.580
I'd have been like, oh, OK, nothing to see here.
00:58:00.540
It was like a full court press effort to lie about everything.
00:58:05.640
He was on the text message chain where Charlie said 48 hours before he died that he was done
00:58:17.200
And I don't like the silence from Turning Point employees.
00:58:20.240
I know for a fact one of them, I'm not going to name, has a text message from Charlie the
00:58:25.160
day before he died saying they are going to kill me.
00:58:29.840
Now, he was not referring to the trans lobby when he wrote that message.
00:58:33.840
So why not if you are his friend and you're interested in the truth, why wouldn't you
00:58:42.720
Wouldn't you just come right out to the public and say, hey, I don't know what happened,
00:58:46.220
but like Charlie thought they were going to kill him.
00:58:48.640
I do not like the way Turning Point is behaving.
00:58:54.140
And nobody is going to emotionally manipulate me and tell me that it's all good now.
00:58:59.540
And to attack Turning Point would be to attack his legacy.
00:59:02.380
Charlie told me years ago that he had, which I shared the messages.
00:59:07.580
He was having a ton of visions and was telling me that he, Turning Point was going to be
00:59:11.080
He knew he was going to die young and strangely knew that I was going to be the only person
00:59:18.880
They tried to say it was fake and you pulled it up and yeah.
00:59:20.740
So it's, it's, it's, we're here, we're here now and I'm going to defend him and I'm
00:59:25.880
What are your thoughts on, um, how Erica Kirk has been dealing with this and some of the
00:59:31.020
people that are close to him, um, his manager, uh, Mike and all them, like, do you think
00:59:38.660
That's some of the people in his closest circle.
00:59:40.460
It is obvious to me that Mikey McCoy was the person that they wanted to launch as the
00:59:46.560
That's very obvious the way they brought his YouTube channel back with a speech from Mikey
00:59:50.200
and everyone was kind of trying to soft sell Mikey to us.
00:59:59.800
And you're brought in by Rob, your dad, who is dirty.
01:00:03.520
I mean, very dirty guy covered more of that yesterday.
01:00:08.620
And it just is very strange that they, I felt like they tried to manipulate us into accepting
01:00:13.660
this almost like they had like, Mikey's going to be this person.
01:00:17.760
Then we see Mikey, he's a hero and he just walks away right after somebody like that doesn't
01:00:24.480
And, um, yeah, you know, with Erica, a lot of people on the internet have been going into
01:00:31.920
her past, going into her parents' past and, you know, just speaking about these things.
01:00:35.760
Israel defense contractors, parents, stuff like that.
01:00:40.400
And what I've said to everybody is I'm starting with what happened on that day, what happened
01:00:44.320
leading up to his, um, assassination and the people that catch my attention are people who
01:00:51.060
Erica thus far has not told any verifiable lies.
01:00:54.260
She did not lie about the fact that he had, uh, St. Michael on him when he died.
01:01:02.140
She could be on autopilot and some people could be reading that the wrong way and thinking,
01:01:09.280
Is she on autopilot because she fears something?
01:01:13.340
Again, we don't know what's happening behind the scenes, but you have to have some level
01:01:19.860
If you watch somebody get assassinated, I don't know.
01:01:27.020
And so people have been upset with me for not going, you know, down the rabbit hole on
01:01:39.000
If I find out that her parents were involved and then, then it's going to catch my investment.
01:01:44.060
And there's nobody that will be spared once they come up, once they tell a lie, once they,
01:01:49.160
I just literally have not come across anything with Frank Turek.
01:01:53.140
Also, I haven't come across anything with Erica in my investigation.
01:01:56.360
So, um, the shooter, uh, or the alleged shooter, you think they're a patsy?
01:02:05.900
They can't show us one clear image, not even one, all of these cameras turning point has
01:02:12.340
So shouldn't you have caught the shooter on the roof in 4k?
01:02:14.820
Like you had cameras everywhere that day, every inch of that campus is covered.
01:02:18.760
So you think that was someone else that was running across?
01:02:21.680
Someone that just, I don't even know if there was a person that sprinted that day because
01:02:25.920
everyone's forgetting, there was also a news report that came out a week before that somebody
01:02:32.800
was on the roof and a professor came out and waved the person that they may have been
01:02:36.740
dropping off a gun, dropping off the screwdriver.
01:02:39.880
Cause there was one video, like one of the students had panned out where he was running.
01:02:42.520
But that person who took that video that I had to track down.
01:02:49.460
So the person that captured that, cause I remember when it first broke out, that cell phone footage
01:02:53.440
got released where the shot goes off and for some odd reason, he's looking at the roof
01:02:57.340
and you see like a little speck running on the top.
01:03:00.000
So that person that took that video was military.
01:03:02.020
I got in touch with the person and they didn't put up it.
01:03:06.600
I'm like, so I'm supposed to believe you're like a college kid and you have nothing to
01:03:10.080
You just decided to randomly like be like, oh, I got this video, but I'm going to sit
01:03:15.180
And also the Losey building where the shot definitely did not come from is the only place on campus
01:03:20.180
that houses, I believe on the third floor, according to my source, like the military
01:03:26.100
So there's a lot happening, uh, that all of that was just a show to mask who the real
01:03:32.840
I think it's way more likely that the shooter was in the audience or, uh, to the side of
01:03:38.260
I think that's more, that's the more likely story because he wasn't shot with a 30 odd
01:03:42.220
six first and foremost, and the bullets did not destroy his neck.
01:03:47.020
I know that for a fact and he actually, uh, yeah, 30 odd six throws everybody off.
01:03:54.140
Like, but that was their plan until I accidentally, which I didn't even process it at the time
01:04:01.640
And then they kind of were like, oh, it was just a miracle.
01:04:08.520
And you know, this whole situation, like I, I wish the government was being a bit more
01:04:12.640
transparent because this has an incredible amount of public interest.
01:04:14.960
So it's like, look, dude, you guys probably should be more transparent on this because
01:04:18.280
government trust is down at its lowest when it comes to people trusting law enforcement
01:04:22.660
What are your thoughts on, um, how the FBI and the state police are handling this in
01:04:28.760
I think what's way more important is trusting Alexis Wilkins as a sensational singer and the
01:04:37.080
I don't want to talk about like the feds right now.
01:04:40.440
The more important thing is that this sensational country singer is left alone.
01:04:46.160
I mean, I think if Putin's FBI director or put that out, he would just, Putin would just
01:04:56.200
That is just, they are tweeting like girls on TikTok right now.
01:05:06.620
Trump should have made him resign for embarrassing us because, uh, there's no way Putin's not laughing
01:05:20.640
And obviously with his blessing, obviously with his blessing, or you would say, Hey honey,
01:05:31.140
And of course the opposite thing happens now where everyone's now calling her a honeypot.
01:05:35.960
Like whack a mole, just sue everybody on the internet.
01:05:37.580
Who's making a joke, sue Tim Dillon or something.
01:05:41.420
Um, so it'd be fair to say, so you don't believe the official nerve.
01:05:48.640
Why don't we have the full footage of him taking the shot, then running off.
01:05:58.640
That's one of my biggest issues is they didn't show him taking a shot, but they have him
01:06:02.800
So it's like, how do you not have him prone shooting the shot?
01:06:05.500
So I guess, and I know you're still investigating and figuring everything out, but if you can
01:06:10.440
kind of give me a quick summary, what do you think transpired in that day?
01:06:15.780
I know you're still filling parts in, but from what you have so far, what do you think?
01:06:18.940
And this is just like, if I had to guess right now where I'm at and this, I think Tyler Robinson's
01:06:24.600
only contribution was that he had his prints on the gun.
01:06:30.400
I know that he, his prints were not the only prints that were on the gun, which is something
01:06:34.640
So I would suspect that his only role, yeah, I think Lance Twiggs is much more involved.
01:06:40.960
I don't think he took the shot either, but I think he's more involved.
01:06:43.840
I think that Tyler Robinson's, all of the people that were involved that day got swept up in
01:06:51.560
The guy that cheered his father is also a pedophile.
01:06:54.420
The guy next, I mean, the whole thing is like, it was an operation with blackmailed people.
01:07:03.060
And again, more of a marker that this was like a blackmail operation.
01:07:07.700
Also, Zinn told a nurse that he was being paid, didn't know how he was going to be paid for
01:07:16.700
Like he got, like when this girl broke out, he got arrested and he was like, it was out in
01:07:22.880
One person maybe just supposed to run across the rooftop.
01:07:25.320
Another, I think Tyler Robinson, all his job was to pick up clothes.
01:07:31.020
I think literally he didn't set foot on campus that day.
01:07:33.460
And his job was to get rid of the clothes next to the Dairy Queen into some cemetery, which
01:07:38.540
And the FBI is not disputed, but they decided to monitor the Dairy Queen afterwards and send
01:07:46.900
I think Lance is actually the one that's walking in the backpack.
01:07:56.880
And I don't know who was walking up the stairs.
01:07:58.560
I think that's a whole different person because they don't even look like they have the same
01:08:02.280
And yeah, that's how you do a nice feather operation.
01:08:04.320
You got a bunch of patsies doing different roles.
01:08:06.300
And then it shows the video of the stairway footage either, which is another thing that's
01:08:11.540
Well, no, I mean, I see you're, there's a lot of, you know, and I said it before, they've created
01:08:27.900
At your local courthouse, your local courthouse being sued, if you'd like to find me, your
01:08:36.980
Do you think, because I know Turning Point, they had said something about, we're going
01:08:41.640
Have they like reached out to you at all or contacted you?
01:08:44.180
Because you're probably one of the most outspoken critic of what's going on with this
01:08:47.140
Happy to have any person at Turning Point on my show to discuss anything that I'm saying,
01:08:51.500
to make any corrections about anything that I'm saying.
01:08:56.600
I'm not going to stop investigating this until we're told something that makes sense, makes
01:09:01.020
And you're not going to tell me like you do with Israel that I'll get into heaven if I
01:09:08.040
Like we're not going to do, we're not going to play that game.
01:09:09.700
So say something that makes sense or you have an enemy of me.
01:09:14.840
And if you didn't want people prying into this narrative, maybe you shouldn't have executed
01:09:21.240
Maybe you should have pretended he choked on an egg or something like you did with that
01:09:25.520
rapper a long while back when he started asking questions about things.
01:09:30.440
Not a good idea to get everyone emotionally invested in the story and then to tell them
01:09:35.580
No, I mean, you've been doing an incredible job of putting a lot of pressure on them, right?
01:09:38.900
So hopefully we, you know, get answers here because what they have out right now just
01:09:47.480
And also thank you for being so patient because I know my schedule is so crazy with so many
01:09:51.320
And so it's like, we just got to make it happen.
01:09:53.920
Yeah, you're a mom, you have a family, so I totally understand it.
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