Candace Owens - Myron Gaines x Candace Owens

00:00:00.000 Who do you think is the most responsible?

00:00:01.300 Why would they want him gone?

00:00:02.220 I think Charlie was not allowed to be anything but a Christian Zionist, 0.99

00:00:06.780 and he was changing in the last few weeks.

00:00:09.260 Everything began ratcheting up after Tucker Carlson hit the stage.

00:00:12.380 That pissed him off.

00:00:13.120 It was like a full court press effort to lie about everything.

00:00:16.240 I do not like the way Turning Point is behaving.

00:00:19.380 I've made that clear, and nobody is going to emotionally manipulate me

00:00:23.160 and tell me to attack Turning Point would be to attack his legacy.

00:00:26.300 Charlie told me years ago he was having a ton of visions

00:00:28.520 and was telling me Turning Point was going to be the death of him.

00:00:30.720 He knew he was going to die young

00:00:31.620 and strangely knew that I was going to be the only person to defend him.

00:00:35.040 Candice, thank you for having me here.

00:00:36.920 I'm excited, and thank you for making it work on short notice.

00:00:39.620 Of course, of course.

00:00:40.440 These are crazy times, so I totally, you know,

00:00:43.020 we got to be careful about where we're at, right?

00:00:44.600 Right.

00:00:44.900 So it's been a while since we last spoke, last time you were on.

00:00:48.820 I remember we did After Hours where you were saving a few women's lives,

00:00:51.960 and I did want to tell you this on camera.

00:00:53.860 One of the girls that you spoke to actually quit OnlyFans on that day. 1.00

00:00:57.000 Wow.

00:00:57.320 No, it was a good conversation.

00:00:59.420 I feel like a lot of people think that, I guess,

00:01:02.260 those conversations are not worth it or the show is all theater.

00:01:05.040 But for me, I want to sit across from these young women 0.97

00:01:07.020 because anybody's life could have ended that way.

00:01:09.680 You know what I mean?

00:01:10.220 Like, I could have ended up being one of these OnlyFan girls

00:01:12.920 if there weren't so many, like, life interventions

00:01:15.260 because it's just being sold to women so much. 1.00

00:01:18.940 This is the easy way out.

00:01:20.080 You know what I mean?

00:01:21.200 Yeah, but I wanted to make sure I told you that, you know,

00:01:23.580 on camera that she literally quit, like, not too long after you did that show.

00:01:28.040 So that's great.

00:01:28.500 Saving lives.

00:01:29.240 That makes me happy.

00:01:30.160 So kind of with that, I saw that you had did a debate on Jubilee

00:01:34.240 with a bunch of feminists. 1.00

00:01:38.680 Obviously, we're in a modern day age.

00:01:40.180 Things have changed quite a bit.

00:01:41.720 We've both been pretty critical of feminism.

00:01:43.400 But I think with what you're doing, you know,

00:01:46.280 you're able to really reach a demographic of women that just guys like me

00:01:49.940 and Andrew Tate and others just aren't going to reach

00:01:51.380 because, you know, we're abrasive in the way that we get it.

00:01:53.780 So they might want, you know, another female's perspective on, 1.00

00:01:57.500 you know, the detriments of feminism and everything else like that. 1.00

00:01:59.820 So kind of given how society is now,

00:02:03.380 how do you see feminism today with young women? 1.00

00:02:05.140 And then what do you predict is going to happen in the next five, 10 years?

00:02:08.280 Are we getting better?

00:02:09.000 Is it getting worse?

00:02:09.800 What are your thoughts in general on that?

00:02:11.000 So I was actually very interested in Tate culture,

00:02:15.080 as I'm going to call it.

00:02:15.720 So I'm going to put you in that orbit of Tate culture.

00:02:19.040 All of these male influencers that were coming out

00:02:21.060 and calling girls B-I-T-C-Hs and hoes and all this stuff. 0.97

00:02:24.860 And people sat back and were like,

00:02:26.200 oh my God, this is horrible, whatever.

00:02:28.300 But I'm like, wait a second.

00:02:29.160 Whatever you think about him, whatever you think about Tristan,

00:02:31.660 whatever you think about Myron,

00:02:33.020 this culture got very big very quickly

00:02:34.880 and there's got to be something there, right?

00:02:36.440 There has to be.

00:02:37.240 So I kind of, that was the reason why I flew out to meet Andrew Tate.

00:02:40.580 There was all of these conspiracies that I knew him before.

00:02:43.040 And I met Andrew a total of two times before I did his show.

00:02:47.460 My husband hung out with him maybe three times in his life before him and I met.

00:02:52.460 He was actually friends with PJW.

00:02:54.520 And that's how I met Andrew.

00:02:56.000 So we were, my husband was actually friends with PJW.

00:02:59.760 And I just wanted to know what it was.

00:03:01.520 I'm never a person that will dismiss something on its face and call it a name.

00:03:04.520 Like there has to be some substance here.

00:03:05.980 And what was actually happening was you got Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate and you got Myron Gaines

00:03:12.400 because you perpetuated a culture of Lena Dunham's, right? 0.99

00:03:15.880 So you're acting like men just got tired of it is what happened.

00:03:19.500 And finally, men looked around and somebody stood up and said,

00:03:22.540 it's actually okay to be a man and you don't have to listen to any of these women.

00:03:26.540 Now, you may not have liked how they said it.

00:03:28.440 You may not have liked that they were doing this on top of Lamborghinis.

00:03:31.080 But the reality is, is that what sat beneath that was a horribly toxic culture where women 1.00

00:03:37.800 were dictating the terms to men.

00:03:39.680 And every time a man did something that actually felt natural to them, you called it toxic masculinity

00:03:45.020 and books were written and Lena Dunham is writing articles and there's a show about this and

00:03:49.740 Lena Dunham's naked on Instagram.

00:03:51.260 I wrote a whole chapter about Lena Dunham in my book and she's naked on Instagram and she's 1.00

00:03:56.040 lecturing you if you don't want to see her, you know, overweight, naked and tatted up.

00:04:02.000 So you can't blame the culture, Tate culture until you are ready to address where this actually

00:04:08.360 came from, which was women constantly bashing men over the head and telling them that masculinity 1.00

00:04:13.460 full stop was wrong.

00:04:15.640 Given the problems that we have, you know, obviously, whether it's me or Tate or other

00:04:19.280 people will kind of come in and say, hey, this is what you need to do as a guy.

00:04:22.420 You know, this is how the modern day marketplace is now when it comes to dating.

00:04:26.500 What's your approach to kind of combating this problem from a female perspective? 1.00

00:04:30.080 First, you have to understand the origin of feminism, right? 1.00

00:04:32.800 You have to understand that this was not a culture and an ideology that came because they

00:04:38.800 wanted women to have equal rights with men.

00:04:40.940 OK, this was a CIA sponsored PSYOP.

00:04:45.420 Gloria Steinem was sponsored by the CIA.

00:04:48.720 OK, these protests were sponsored by men in government, a lot of them homosexual, actually.

00:04:54.580 And the reason for that was simply because they wanted to tax.

00:04:58.880 It was actually twofold, I would say.

00:05:00.600 They wanted to tax households, household income both ways.

00:05:04.240 And also they wanted women to instead of focusing on their kids, which comes natural to women, 1.00

00:05:09.920 right, to be the quote unquote, like I say, CEO of the household.

00:05:13.020 They wanted to remove that and to have the children given to the government for six hours a day, beyond six hours a day, six hours a day, plus whatever sports activities, which gives the government full control over the minds of the children.

00:05:25.220 This came straight from the pale of settlement after they assassinated the czar.

00:05:30.900 You had these Jewish women like Emma Goldman, who came over to America. 0.97

00:05:35.400 Emma Goldman was the mentor to what's her face from Planned Parenthood.

00:05:40.560 I'm blanking on her name for a moment.

00:05:41.740 I'm going to say Margaret, Margaret, Margaret Sanger.

00:05:43.920 That was her mentor.

00:05:45.160 And so this was, in fact, a very radical communist movement that came to America and sought to overthrow families, family institutions, strong men, feminine women stands in the way of government and absolute control. 0.62

00:06:02.220 In your book, Make Him a Sandwich, what are some of the things that you tell the women? 1.00

00:06:06.920 Because I'm assuming it's a it's a book that's going to be centered around how women can kind of get in a marketplace, find a long term partner, get married.

00:06:13.160 What are some of the strategies that you implement, that you tell women to implement to find a partner?

00:06:18.740 You don't have to give it all away.

00:06:19.560 I don't even try in my book to sell them a strategy or a technique.

00:06:24.560 I just tell the truth.

00:06:25.600 So here's the history of feminism. 1.00

00:06:26.700 Here's what we were told in school.

00:06:27.820 Here's actually how it went down.

00:06:29.080 Right.

00:06:29.740 Knowledge is power.

00:06:30.720 I give them the actual statistics of the fact that what was sold to you was you were going to be just like a man and you were going to be happier.

00:06:36.200 Women are actually more miserable than they've ever been. 1.00

00:06:38.220 If you go back and you ask most women about their grandmothers, they remember grandma being happy.

00:06:42.740 Right.

00:06:43.320 So what they actually sold to you, now you've achieved this equality, quote unquote equality.

00:06:50.040 And women have never been more miserable and women are popping more pills than they were popping and finding it harder to find a partner and wondering why. 0.99

00:06:58.600 Well, it's because you attacked natural masculinity.

00:07:02.160 You told men that they shouldn't be allowed to lead.

00:07:04.460 Women have to lead. 1.00

00:07:05.160 And actually, you didn't want that.

00:07:06.760 Right.

00:07:07.180 You were convinced psychologically in a classroom, as I was back when I wanted to be a feminist or I thought feminism was cool. 0.99

00:07:14.920 And you should know that.

00:07:16.320 And I think that that's how you change things without trying to say, here's a strategy and here's how we're going to move forward.

00:07:21.180 Let people know true knowledge.

00:07:22.820 Let people know true history.

00:07:23.840 And I think the rest of the stuff happens naturally, or I hope.

00:07:27.860 For you on your journey, when did you like figure out that feminism was a lie? 1.00

00:07:32.400 Like, was there a certain event that triggered it that you're like, holy crap, this is this is yes.

00:07:36.220 I actually tell the story in this book.

00:07:38.260 I think I do.

00:07:38.800 Actually, I think it's in this book or it's in my last book.

00:07:40.500 Actually, it's in blackout of this teacher that I had.

00:07:43.580 And I was required to take a Feminism 101. 1.00

00:07:48.080 It was called Women's Studies.

00:07:49.440 Maybe it was Women's Studies 201 at the University of Rhode Island. 0.71

00:07:52.480 And at that time, I was like, yeah, I'm a feminist.

00:07:53.920 Of course.

00:07:54.800 Who doesn't want equality as they sold it? 0.99

00:07:57.060 It begins to this classroom.

00:07:57.980 And this teacher, I realized very quickly, was not actually motivated by wanting equality.

00:08:03.400 She was I was in a classroom where she was trying to convince me that every problem that we had in society was due to men. 0.58

00:08:09.620 This was a literal class that was designed to basically teach women to hate men. 0.59

00:08:14.240 Yeah.

00:08:14.420 Like, no matter all, all you had to do to get an A was she would introduce any problem.

00:08:18.920 She could have lost her keys that morning and been like, why did this happen?

00:08:22.760 It's a patriarchy.

00:08:23.820 Well, you know what?

00:08:24.440 Who designed cars?

00:08:25.740 You know who designed cars?

00:08:26.940 Do you know who designed the whole concept of a car key and who designed the couch that you lost it in this morning?

00:08:32.080 It was met.

00:08:32.740 It was it became to a point where for me, it was like laughable.

00:08:35.460 Yeah.

00:08:35.740 And but there was this one particular class where it clicked for me.

00:08:39.620 Because when I was in college, I had an eating disorder.

00:08:42.720 So I was sitting in her class and I had I was anorexic.

00:08:46.460 And she gets into this topic of anorexia, eating disorders.

00:08:49.900 And she gave us some statistic about the amount, the percentage of women that have eating disorders. 0.99

00:08:55.180 And I'm making this up now, but it was something like 80 percent of people who have eating disorders are women. 0.93

00:09:00.640 And she asked the class, why is that?

00:09:02.840 And we were supposed to say and she did say that it was because men control the advertising agency and men want women to be skinny. 1.00

00:09:11.760 And I had literally I'm sitting here having experience nothing to do with a man, like nothing.

00:09:16.440 No man said you're fat.

00:09:17.840 You have to be skinny.

00:09:18.800 That is completely made up.

00:09:20.180 And I'm listening to her try to psychologically convince me that my eating disorder came from a man when it just factually didn't.

00:09:25.940 Most people who suffer with anorexia know it's a control mechanism.

00:09:28.580 It actually has nothing even to do with weight.

00:09:30.120 It just is like this is the one thing you can control.

00:09:32.620 And I just kind of called her out on that.

00:09:35.240 And I raised my hand.

00:09:35.880 I was like, whoa, wait a second.

00:09:37.600 OK, well, let's look at another statistic.

00:09:40.020 How many of what percentage of people are juicing up with steroids?

00:09:45.020 Right.

00:09:45.240 That's not a super healthy thing to do.

00:09:47.100 If we said that 90 percent of it was men, would you have presented to the class that it was because of women?

00:09:52.680 Right. Because women are telling them they have to look like this. 1.00

00:09:54.660 And she was I mean, when I say she went white and she said to me and I always tell the story on stage.

00:10:02.620 She said to me, I feel like you were sent to me from the men's department.

00:10:05.840 Of course.

00:10:06.240 Yeah.

00:10:06.820 I told her that I told her I told her back that I was sent to her from the common sense department.

00:10:11.180 Yeah.

00:10:11.640 And that everything couldn't be because of men.

00:10:13.840 And so I think that was kind of the first time that it clicked for me that this was some sort of a psychological program.

00:10:21.440 I'm in many ways.

00:10:22.660 I was actually saved by you at that point.

00:10:25.060 You're I was in college.

00:10:26.100 So I was nine nineteen.

00:10:27.680 OK.

00:10:28.160 Yeah.

00:10:28.460 It was first.

00:10:29.140 It was the first year of college.

00:10:30.440 OK.

00:10:31.160 So, yeah, it was a it was a prerequisite.

00:10:34.580 So it was interesting for me, I think.

00:10:36.860 Did that make you shift your priorities?

00:10:38.080 Like I wasn't like I was never a gun ho feminist. 0.65

00:10:40.800 I just was like in the back of my mind.

00:10:42.280 Same way that I was liberal.

00:10:43.100 So I was never voting Democrat.

00:10:44.740 But if you had asked me, what do you think about this?

00:10:46.260 I'm going to very quickly be like, of course, we need feminism. 1.00

00:10:47.980 Yeah.

00:10:48.920 And then I was kind of thinking, man, these women are really annoying in this classroom because then there were the majors that were there. 1.00

00:10:55.720 You know, the people, these women that were tatted up and like growing their armpit hair out. 1.00

00:11:01.000 You know, we had those people in class and I was like, I don't like any of these people.

00:11:03.820 So it made me think that there was something more to the feminist movement, I think, which was indoctrination.

00:11:11.880 Interesting.

00:11:12.460 OK, so I think you've been able to do what every woman dreams of, have a family, have children, have your dream man.

00:11:20.520 And but simultaneously being able to also, you know, run a business and do what you want to do.

00:11:25.640 And I noticed when you were debating on Jubilee, some of them tried to say, oh, well, you're a hypocrite.

00:11:30.600 You're over here talking about feminism being bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

00:11:34.200 But, you know, you obviously have a lot of things set up where you maximize your ability to be with your family.

00:11:38.860 Right. You do your show, get out of there, spend time with your family.

00:11:43.140 What would you say to the people that sit there and try to call you a hypocrite because, you know, you're successful in your own right.

00:11:49.440 But you've been able to also balance a family, which many women can't do. 1.00

00:11:52.660 They want to do it, but they can't do it.

00:11:53.920 What would your response be to those critics?

00:11:57.300 First and foremost, do not allow people to rule you by exceptions.

00:12:01.480 What I mean by that is it is such a mistake to look at my life and to say, Candice did this.

00:12:07.920 And so therefore I can do this.

00:12:09.300 My life is actually exceptional.

00:12:11.580 Right. We are sitting in my house.

00:12:13.520 I do things on my own terms.

00:12:14.900 I wake up in the morning.

00:12:15.740 I get to homeschool my kids.

00:12:17.560 I'm homeschooling my children for hours.

00:12:20.080 That's now very important to me.

00:12:22.520 I get to do a podcast from home and I am actually doing something that I enjoy.

00:12:29.500 Right. What is the number one thing?

00:12:31.060 If you find any woman that makes it and she's successful, what is she doing? 1.00

00:12:34.880 She's tapping into her femininity communication. 1.00

00:12:37.160 Women communicate more than men. 0.75

00:12:38.480 I have a whole chapter on this.

00:12:39.700 We, if you have a daughter and a son, you know, this women starts, girls start speaking 1.00

00:12:43.900 faster and we will speak more words from men for the rest of our lives.

00:12:47.560 And when you actually look and I ask people in this chapter, who is the most, if I ask you

00:12:51.960 the question right now, who is the most successful man in the world?

00:12:55.460 Just give me your answer.

00:12:56.280 Or if you have a name, a couple of them.

00:13:00.300 Hmm.

00:13:00.940 I was going to say like from a financial perspective, which is, yeah, sure.

00:13:04.680 Full stop.

00:13:05.120 If I said who's the most successful man in the world, who would you say?

00:13:07.900 I mean, you could say like the richest guy in the world who I would be Elon, even though

00:13:10.780 it pains me to say that.

00:13:11.820 But that's the right, you would say Elon or you would say.

00:13:15.720 Something based on meritocracy, finances, and status.

00:13:18.980 You would say Jeff Bezos.

00:13:19.940 Precisely.

00:13:20.140 Everyone would say the same answers, right?

00:13:21.700 If I ask you who is the most successful woman in the world, what would you say? 1.00

00:13:25.380 That's where it gets true.

00:13:26.160 Yeah.

00:13:26.520 That's, I see what you're saying.

00:13:27.440 Like, what is it?

00:13:28.100 Like off the top of your mind, like what, what is, what, what are the names that come

00:13:30.740 to your mind?

00:13:31.220 Yeah.

00:13:31.420 It's an ambiguous, like you're like, okay, well, are we going to go off career?

00:13:33.920 Are we going to go off versus a man? 1.00

00:13:34.820 But most people would say like Taylor Swift or Oprah.

00:13:39.280 These women are nowhere near the richest women in the world. 1.00

00:13:42.480 Nobody knows the name of the richest woman in the world. 1.00

00:13:44.540 And so I go about through this in my chapter.

00:13:46.300 Yeah.

00:13:46.400 You'd say Beyonce.

00:13:46.980 I'm like, these are the names that you would say off the top of your head.

00:13:49.720 If I asked you who's the most successful, nobody knows, everybody knows the names of

00:13:53.940 the most, uh, the, the richest men in the world.

00:13:57.460 And yet nobody knows the names of the richest women in the world, right?

00:14:01.120 And nobody knows the names of them.

00:14:02.420 Uh, and the answer is a Russian woman. 1.00

00:14:04.720 And I talk about this in my book.

00:14:05.440 I'm like, nobody knows her name.

00:14:07.100 And the women that you do name actually all tapped into their femininity. 0.85

00:14:11.740 Taylor Swift was writing songs about relationships.

00:14:13.900 She was writing songs about looking for love.

00:14:16.980 And women flocked to this. 0.76

00:14:19.560 Oprah was communicating to the housewife, right? 0.95

00:14:22.660 She was speaking about issues.

00:14:24.140 They're tapping in actually to the one thing that actually you think they're standing against.

00:14:28.320 Oh, they're the ultimate feminists. 1.00

00:14:29.760 But they tap into their femininity and found success actually. 0.99

00:14:33.020 And women do not, um, when we think about success, we don't measure it in terms of finances. 1.00

00:14:39.300 That's why these women we think are the most quote unquote successful women in the world. 1.00

00:14:43.600 Whereas men naturally think finances. 0.94

00:14:47.860 Oh, it's Jeff Bezos.

00:14:48.760 It's Elon Musk.

00:14:49.780 So I do a chapter and I speak about that in my book about who the richest woman in the world is. 0.95

00:14:55.120 And then the next 10 women who are the richest in the world are all rich because of who they divorced. 1.00

00:15:00.460 Right?

00:15:00.900 So what is the picture that we're recognizing here?

00:15:05.280 Uh, we don't measure success in the same terms as men measure success, nor should we.

00:15:11.360 And it's important for women not to think that becoming financially rich somehow means that you are successful or that you have, um, triumphed something in life. 0.98

00:15:23.520 And since having children, like how has that like shifted your priorities, uh, as far as, I mean, and you can go into as much detail as little as you want, uh, as far as like how you've kind of prioritized child rearing versus like maybe your career and doing social media as much.

00:15:37.620 Because I noticed, you know, before you were super, super active, you still post obviously every day, but now it's like, you know, there's, you have other priorities.

00:15:44.740 So how has that kind of shifted?

00:15:45.780 Yeah, my family is my number one priority.

00:15:47.580 I would say having kids made me more secure than ever before.

00:15:52.340 I just don't care about the noise.

00:15:54.360 None of it matters anymore.

00:15:55.860 And also I have real stake in this fight before these were just ideas.

00:16:01.760 America shouldn't be run like this. 0.86

00:16:03.460 This is why, um, this is what's bad.

00:16:05.940 Once you have kids, you have actually a real stake in the future of America.

00:16:09.300 So when I am podcasting, the subjects that I am covering to me are existential, right?

00:16:16.800 Are we being ruled by pedophiles and criminals?

00:16:19.420 That's now existential for me.

00:16:21.340 Um, what is happening in the school systems?

00:16:23.320 What is happening in these churches?

00:16:25.460 What is going on?

00:16:26.440 This is now existential because my children will inherit the America that I fight for or the America that I remain silent about.

00:16:33.800 And just to kind of finish off with the feminism real quick. 1.00

00:16:36.660 So what do you think are the top three things holding women back from fulfillment and happiness right now?

00:16:43.320 The number one thing I would say that's holding women back would be not understanding the history of feminism. 1.00

00:16:50.660 I think, I think once you know that everything like knowledge is actually power.

00:16:56.100 I would say the second thing that's holding them back is the psychology of peer pressure.

00:17:01.880 And that is the psychology and the peer pressure starts when we are in school with women being told you have to go to college.

00:17:09.460 You have to have a career.

00:17:10.760 The last thing you should be thinking about, you have plenty of time.

00:17:13.240 You don't actually have plenty of time.

00:17:14.640 Biologically speaking, you literally don't have plenty of time.

00:17:17.180 Men might have plenty of time, biologically speaking, but your body is telling you you don't.

00:17:21.020 And so I think, and then that kind of gets into the education.

00:17:26.840 The education system truly is just Soviet propaganda in the classrooms.

00:17:33.180 So those would be the top two things.

00:17:35.260 And so they're ignoring their gut instinct and following the herd.

00:17:40.020 So understanding what feminism is and how it came into place makes it a lot easier to understand everything else. 1.00

00:17:46.140 All right, fair enough.

00:17:46.900 What do you think so far about this switch in politics?

00:17:48.860 What do you think so far about this administration with Trump?

00:17:52.060 Bad, bad, ugly.

00:17:53.440 Sad.

00:17:54.360 Honestly, the first thing that I would say is that it makes me sad because obviously I spent a lot of time helping Trump get elected, trying to help Trump get elected.

00:18:03.500 And Trump is...

00:18:04.520 I see a photo right here, yeah.

00:18:05.960 Yeah, he's a part of my political story, right?

00:18:07.880 A part of my political awakening, if you want to call it that.

00:18:10.180 And it feels to me like when he said, what Epstein files, you know, are we still talking about the Epstein files?

00:18:19.380 It was just like we were so close.

00:18:21.320 We did everything we could and we were supposed to be fighting with Swallop.

00:18:25.500 And then what happened?

00:18:26.340 What the Loch Ness Monster, which is Israel, rose up and swallowed our hero whole. 1.00

00:18:32.400 So it makes me sad.

00:18:33.720 And I think we all can very clearly see what has happened on the basis of who is now supporting him.

00:18:38.840 The literal Never Trump movement is now supporting Trump.

00:18:42.400 Yeah.

00:18:42.740 And telling us that we're radicals, the people who initially supported Trump.

00:18:46.220 So there's been a complete flip and they're trying to use this mechanism of psychology to convince us, oh, we just got here, but we noticed this rot, which is the original MAGA movement.

00:18:54.580 It's completely ridiculous.

00:18:56.340 Their tactics aren't working.

00:18:57.500 But I think it also indicates to us that there is something very scary and sinister that is in D.C., right?

00:19:05.480 That turns good men, like petrifies good men that go in maybe with the best of intentions and then they see something else.

00:19:13.920 Like what happens to these people?

00:19:15.120 We don't know.

00:19:16.040 Where is, I mean, day in and day out, Kash Patel and Dan were saying we're going to do this.

00:19:23.560 We get to the FBI.

00:19:24.360 Now they look petrified.

00:19:26.240 They look petrified, actually.

00:19:27.700 There's nothing here, actually, to see about these Epstein files.

00:19:30.020 What are you talking about?

00:19:31.640 You kind of made your show off of what we need to happen with the Epstein files.

00:19:36.220 So it's sad.

00:19:37.920 So if you were to rate them, because people love asking me this question, so now I get to ask someone else.

00:19:41.860 What grade would you give them right now at this point based on, you know, obviously the Epstein files, I agree with you.

00:19:46.860 It's a huge debacle.

00:19:47.660 It's going to probably be a huge negative in his legacy at the end of the day.

00:19:52.640 If you had to grade his presidency so far within 11 months in roughly, what would you say?

00:19:58.460 So I would say I'm biased.

00:19:59.560 So if you're asking me to grade, you know how you would have those teachers where if you would take a test and they would automatically flunk you if you didn't put your name on the paper?

00:20:06.580 Oh, yeah.

00:20:06.900 The Epstein thing for me is like automatic flunk if you don't put your name on the paper, right?

00:20:10.860 So if like I'm a mom now, so this was the most important thing to me was figuring out where the pedophiles are in our society.

00:20:18.320 And that was your number one voting.

00:20:19.620 This for me, like becoming a mother, because you have to remember Epstein and I did a partial series, a mini series on what we discovered about him.

00:20:29.740 He just got pulled to the ranks, right?

00:20:32.440 Bankrupted Americans. 0.61

00:20:33.660 Same thing with the Maxwell family.

00:20:35.120 Bankrupted people in England and was allowed to do this.

00:20:40.180 He had absolutely no background.

00:20:41.540 He was given access to children.

00:20:43.360 He had an office on Harvard campus despite only having a high school diploma, which I can't even verify his high school diploma, if I'm being honest with you.

00:20:50.080 And we were this was going to show us everything.

00:20:53.340 He had access to Hollywood.

00:20:54.900 He was working with Weinstein.

00:20:56.580 He had some notorious fight with Harvey Weinstein right before Harvey went down.

00:21:00.680 So now I'm kind of going back in my mind and thinking that's a question I should probably ask.

00:21:04.300 Harvey Weinstein is what they were fighting about.

00:21:06.660 And he had access to models.

00:21:09.820 I mean, this man was just handed the keys to Les Wexner's empire, which even how that empire started has got a shady story with a guy who said that Les Wexner was a literal devil.

00:21:19.260 He was the guy who controlled Victoria's Secret.

00:21:21.060 He said this man is evil.

00:21:22.500 And then suddenly that guy jumps off the Golden Gate Bridge and decides to give his company to Les Wexner.

00:21:26.240 That doesn't really make sense.

00:21:27.560 So we had this rare opportunity to really understand how the matrix was put together, in my view.

00:21:36.180 And Trump took us to this line and then balked.

00:21:40.480 And I'm not sure why he did.

00:21:41.820 OK, I don't.

00:21:43.140 Maybe it's because he almost survived his assassination attempt.

00:21:45.800 He survived his assassination attempt.

00:21:47.160 Yeah, two of them.

00:21:48.020 Two of them.

00:21:48.680 And maybe they put him in a room and said, here's how it's going to go.

00:21:52.160 So I'm going to try not to judge him because I don't know what he is going through.

00:21:58.160 But for me, the Epstein files was a name on the paper.

00:22:02.000 So what are your thoughts on the current news?

00:22:03.680 Because it just resurfaced again.

00:22:05.100 They're in the process right now of getting everything classified.

00:22:07.640 I understand that there were a bunch of emails that came out.

00:22:11.240 And it's coming back up again.

00:22:12.720 I can tell because I'm seeing nothing but CNN clips on it.

00:22:15.560 Anytime they love to hit Trump when it comes to this Epstein thing, what are your thoughts

00:22:20.200 on the latest information that came out recently with the emails and everything else like that?

00:22:23.660 When he initially balked on discussing Epstein and Pam Bondi did the whole crazy bit, I was

00:22:31.840 told that it was because there was donors he was protecting.

00:22:35.900 And that makes sense to me.

00:22:36.840 I have never felt and I'm a pretty good vibe person.

00:22:41.460 Trump's not into kids, right?

00:22:42.880 So the nature of the emails, was he at a party when people should just think about that?

00:22:49.300 People say, oh, they exchange like he was on his plane, never on the island, but like

00:22:53.440 was on the plane or was it a party?

00:22:55.400 If you were at a party, I mean, you live in Miami.

00:22:56.900 If you were at a party, the idea that somebody could be at any club that you are at or any

00:23:01.920 party that you are at has somebody that's underage and looks like she could be 18. 0.88

00:23:06.720 And that doesn't mean that doesn't really track to me as any evidence of anything other

00:23:10.900 than the fact that he was at a party once.

00:23:13.780 And Jeffrey Epstein was very clearly running a sophisticated network and a blackmail ring.

00:23:18.700 So I don't think that whatever they have on Epstein with Trump and Epstein is going to

00:23:23.960 implicate Trump in any of that stuff.

00:23:26.160 And I've been around him.

00:23:27.420 It just Trump has a type.

00:23:29.160 And I have never felt that vibe from him at all.

00:23:31.900 But I do think he's protecting some of his owners.

00:23:35.820 I do believe that because they I look at them and they just creep me out.

00:23:39.700 And he took a lot of money from Miriam Adelson, the Adelson family, hundreds of millions of

00:23:45.680 dollars from Miriam Adelson.

00:23:47.840 And I think that's kind of the beginning of everything.

00:23:50.360 So when they started leaking these emails, I read it as like a public threat to him.

00:23:55.180 Maybe they're arguing about something in the background and he's holding a line on something.

00:23:59.140 Because they obviously have all the Epstein stuff.

00:24:01.520 He was their blackmail guy, you know.

00:24:04.240 And so if people don't listen, they probably do a little trickle.

00:24:08.520 That's how I read it.

00:24:09.320 I read it as like a public threat and they want something from him.

00:24:12.060 And they're going to be like capitulate or we will hit you with everything they have.

00:24:15.840 And we need to have a leader that says just comes right out in a press conference and says,

00:24:20.440 they have this about me.

00:24:22.380 They've been threatening me with it.

00:24:23.700 I'm going to tell them to release everything and I'm going to hold the line.

00:24:26.060 People would cheer.

00:24:26.860 People would cheer.

00:24:27.660 I wouldn't even we wouldn't even care.

00:24:29.240 We'll be like, OK, like as long as you are not implicated in harming children.

00:24:32.720 Right.

00:24:33.940 I can deal with you being at a party that Epstein was at and finding out that whatever it is

00:24:38.800 that they have on you.

00:24:39.620 That's my that's my gut instinct about the whole thing.

00:24:42.440 Yeah, no, I agree with you, though.

00:24:43.760 I think I don't he doesn't give me the vibe that he's like, you know, doing that type of

00:24:47.580 thing with children.

00:24:49.260 But I do think that maybe there's something in there that looks really bad optically.

00:24:52.860 And that's might be why or to protect donors, like you said, because I look at it like

00:24:57.320 if there was something really bad like that.

00:24:59.660 The Democrats would have exposed that during my administration if there really was.

00:25:03.620 So, you know, that's that's another thing as well.

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00:27:07.720 Speaking of the Zionist lobby, we're talking about Mary Maddelson and Epstein and everything 0.98

00:27:11.940 else like that.

00:27:12.940 Last time we spoke, you were literally like a week or two before you left Daily Wire.

00:27:18.280 It's been a while now.

00:27:19.780 And obviously a lot of things have transpired, right?

00:27:21.920 You've had a meteoric rise.

00:27:23.580 Congratulations.

00:27:24.640 Meanwhile, your opposition, Ben Shapiro, has had a meteoric downfall.

00:27:28.040 Can you kind of take me through that day of what happened when, because I remember you

00:27:35.000 had been in Miami for a bit and then I think you might've went back to Daily Wire for like

00:27:38.740 a day or two and then they said, hey, we're going to get rid of you, blah, blah, blah.

00:27:41.440 Can you kind of take me through how that all transpired and how you've been able to kind

00:27:45.000 of use that cancellation from their perspective to just utterly destroy them and flip the rolls?

00:27:50.780 So, gosh, I was fired in, what was it, March of 2024?

00:27:54.320 2024 and I obviously was very surprised about it.

00:27:56.920 I did not know it was coming.

00:27:58.260 I was, even if I sensed it was coming, I would have never have thought that it would have

00:28:03.420 happened in the way that it happened.

00:28:04.580 I would have thought that we would do everything that we can to keep things friendly.

00:28:08.880 I mean, you don't want to work for any company.

00:28:10.460 It's just unprofessional to want to work, to dedicate years of your life to any company

00:28:14.200 and not have things, even if they're not on great terms, you still want to make it

00:28:17.820 as peaceful as possible.

00:28:19.100 TMZ reported, and I have to ask you this because I've always been wanting to ask you this.

00:28:21.720 And they reported that the reason, one of the reasons why they wanted to get rid of you

00:28:26.140 is because you did the show with us.

00:28:27.660 And when we talked about Jews, we hit the sound effect, the cha-ching sound effect. 1.00

00:28:30.920 And that, I guess that infuriated Ben Shapiro.

00:28:33.000 Is that true?

00:28:33.580 Or?

00:28:34.680 I know that, I know where that leak came from.

00:28:37.660 Okay.

00:28:37.940 And it came, gosh, am I allowed to say anything about this?

00:28:42.500 She no longer works for The Daily Wire.

00:28:44.240 And I think she was behind that leak.

00:28:47.500 Oh, shit.

00:28:48.600 Yeah.

00:28:49.100 So she no longer works for The Daily Wire.

00:28:50.940 So that was interesting.

00:28:52.940 I can neither confirm or deny whether or not that is true.

00:28:56.960 Okay.

00:28:57.220 But what I will say is I would have never expected that sort of a PR.

00:29:02.720 I mean, it was just, it's just the opposite of the way that I am.

00:29:05.340 I mean, I've worked with several companies.

00:29:07.280 I've worked with PragerU.

00:29:08.340 I have obviously very, a lot of disagreements with them now.

00:29:12.020 But I had a very peaceful working relationship with them.

00:29:13.860 They treated me fantastically.

00:29:15.380 I've said this a thousand times.

00:29:16.180 Like, when I think about them now and what their contributions are to what we're fighting,

00:29:21.280 I could never go back and say, like, one bad word about how they treated me.

00:29:24.520 They were really good employers and very communicative.

00:29:27.840 I ever had an issue.

00:29:29.140 I mean, I think my contract with PragerU was, like, two pages.

00:29:31.680 I'm not even kidding.

00:29:32.220 It was crazy.

00:29:33.880 Marissa never even wanted to talk about contracts.

00:29:35.600 She's like, if we ever have to talk about the contract, she was like, you should probably leave.

00:29:37.920 Because, like, I don't want you here if you're not happy.

00:29:40.980 Obviously had a very great relationship with Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA.

00:29:44.600 So I, for me, having never had any sort of a debacle ever in my life in terms of working for people,

00:29:53.360 it was new.

00:29:55.340 It was global.

00:29:56.340 There was so much happening.

00:29:58.220 And I didn't know if we were going to survive it.

00:30:01.060 Genuinely, my husband and I, it felt like you are just, it's like trench warfare.

00:30:05.420 You're every move.

00:30:06.700 You're not even thinking about the implications.

00:30:08.320 It's like, I just have to put one foot in front of the other and fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.

00:30:12.140 And I am, I, first and foremost, just grateful to God.

00:30:17.740 Grateful to God that my husband was just rock solid.

00:30:22.360 I think if my husband had shown even a fraction of apprehension, fear, anything, I probably would have come apart.

00:30:30.260 And this, again, gets back to the importance of marriage.

00:30:33.360 Because there are things that men are designed to deal with.

00:30:35.460 Women are designed, like I, I was good on the, on the psychology games of what they were trying to do. 1.00

00:30:40.100 But in terms of just getting down in and building the infrastructure and like, okay, we need to rebuild the podcast.

00:30:46.060 We got to do this.

00:30:47.420 You got to figure this out.

00:30:49.020 We laugh now.

00:30:50.840 I mean, even because my team came with me, which was something that was also a huge blessing.

00:30:54.620 I'm so grateful to my team because I went to them and I was like, I don't know if this is going to work.

00:30:59.240 But we can't offer you health insurance.

00:31:01.340 We have, we have nothing.

00:31:02.460 So if you leave the comfort of where you are, you are taking a risk.

00:31:06.800 And we don't know where this thing is going to end.

00:31:08.320 And also we're like being banned from society.

00:31:10.660 Also, the chances of this podcast working when we're banned from everywhere, even YouTube demonetized us.

00:31:17.340 It was slim to none.

00:31:18.120 And they took, they were just like, we're, we're coming with you.

00:31:20.820 So to look back on that, it's just a tremendous amount of gratitude and appreciation for the audience, my team, and first and foremost, my husband, you know.

00:31:31.660 So he helped you through that, through that process.

00:31:33.380 Cause yeah, I remember like it was all over the place and, you know, obviously there was enormous amount of pressure, but you were able to use that to your favor.

00:31:39.200 You get let go from Daily Wire, you start up your own thing.

00:31:42.340 And, you know, obviously this topic is a very controversial topic when it comes to Zionism, Jewish power, and these other things.

00:31:48.580 And it led to some things.

00:31:51.240 What is, what red-pilled you on this topic that made you say, I got to speak up?

00:31:55.840 Even though this is a very taboo topic, you get, you know, like you said, deal with demonization, cancellation, losing an employer.

00:32:02.520 What made you say, I got to speak up on this?

00:32:04.980 I want to get into heaven.

00:32:06.340 And I think people don't realize that that's real.

00:32:09.000 Like, I think people who are atheists don't understand that a part of this whole psych operation was to make you an atheist.

00:32:17.260 Because if you knew for certain that when you die, there is more, which there is, you would be living your life differently, right?

00:32:24.860 You want to, I want to get into heaven.

00:32:26.360 And so at the very moment that I know anything is true, I can't tell a lie, right?

00:32:32.320 So when I was working, and giving the example again for PragerU, I genuinely, first off, wasn't up on the topic of Israel.

00:32:40.280 It wasn't kind of a common discussion.

00:32:41.780 There was no pressure on me to get out there and say things that are pro-Israel.

00:32:45.700 I just genuinely believed it in the same way that I tell people Charlie Kirk just believed it.

00:32:48.980 There was nothing, there's no conspiracy.

00:32:50.540 He just was like, yeah, Israel, I'm a Christian.

00:32:52.660 And obviously, Israel has biblical connotations.

00:32:59.020 And so I support Israel, almost like it's a periphery. 0.97

00:33:02.340 Yeah, it's like a default setting.

00:33:03.520 Yeah, it's a default setting.

00:33:04.700 Literally, yeah.

00:33:05.740 It's a factory setting.

00:33:07.360 And people who attack that and assume that everyone's on an agenda should stop doing that.

00:33:12.760 At the moment that it kind of became, and I would say after October 7th, they were kind of demanding that you take a side.

00:33:19.100 I watched Bassem Youssef.

00:33:22.440 This was truly the mental turning point for me.

00:33:25.220 He went on to Piers Morgan, and it went viral.

00:33:27.400 And he held up this paper where he showed how many deaths there were every year of Palestinians versus Israelis.

00:33:34.760 And I will never unsee that.

00:33:37.260 And he was being totally a jackass about it, was just kind of using humor, which is the best tool, and being like, so what's the equation of how many lives are worth?

00:33:47.220 So I'm going, okay, so I'm supposed to believe these are the evil people, but this is how many people.

00:33:52.540 And then I had Norm Finkelstein on my show at the Daily Wire because I was like, let me go to someone who actually is not an anti-Semite, right?

00:34:00.340 His parents survived the Holocaust, and he's a professor who was denied tenure for a ridiculous reason because he is committed to telling the truth about Gaza, and he wrote so many books on it.

00:34:09.560 And that, to me, was like, wow.

00:34:12.660 So that, like, red-pilled you on the topic, like, seeing the deaths and everything.

00:34:15.200 Because no one ever sees, like, the Palestinian perspective because it's, like, almost, like, in America, especially if you're a conservative, the default setting is we support Israel unequivocally every single time, and you never even hear the other perspective.

00:34:26.080 So, and I've said that, too, like, October 7th kind of opened up this discussion, whereas, like, I remember before it, like, if you talked about it, you would get demonetized.

00:34:32.900 Man, that's what got me demonetized was that topic, especially before October 7th.

00:34:38.120 So you start talking about it.

00:34:39.960 I remember you had debated a rabbi.

00:34:42.440 I forget.

00:34:42.700 I can't remember his name.

00:34:43.880 A couple of them.

00:34:44.520 A couple of them.

00:34:44.840 There was Rabbi Shmuley, and then there was—

00:34:46.620 That idiot in the other one.

00:34:47.280 Who was—oh, gosh, I have to remember his name.

00:34:48.980 He was my favorite.

00:34:50.200 Candace! 1.00

00:34:51.360 This is the worst.

00:34:52.560 Anti-Semitism.

00:34:53.520 He actually was low-key my favorite because he was so over-the-top.

00:34:56.780 Oh, yeah.

00:34:57.600 Oy vey, yeah.

00:34:58.460 He was so over-the-top, and he was like, you can't even say.

00:35:02.600 What was it?

00:35:03.300 Witches?

00:35:03.840 Skylar, what was the name of that rabbi?

00:35:05.920 Barclay.

00:35:06.360 Rabbi Barclay.

00:35:07.440 That was his name.

00:35:07.800 And I think that was one of your last debates you did on Daily Wire, too.

00:35:10.920 I think you were still on the Daily Wire there.

00:35:12.460 Did Ben ever, like, have a conversation with you about this, if you could disclose it?

00:35:15.680 Like, he just, like, never talked to you in person about this.

00:35:19.120 He just, like, trashed you.

00:35:21.000 Because I remember seeing a clip of him, like, at some type of social gathering, like, late in the year of that year, saying,

00:35:27.160 oh, yeah, I think what she's doing is, you know, despicable, blah, blah, blah. 0.98

00:35:29.460 But he had never had a conversation with you.

00:35:31.200 No, and after that, we never had a conversation.

00:35:34.200 Wow.

00:35:35.040 So that was, that happened, and that's, we never had a conversation after that, so.

00:35:41.680 So he didn't even have the decency to, like, figure out, hey, you know, what's going on here, have a conversation.

00:35:46.800 You're just like.

00:35:48.060 I tried.

00:35:48.640 It never happened, so.

00:35:50.580 Wow.

00:35:51.060 Okay.

00:35:52.940 So, so you got banned from Australia.

00:35:57.440 Right?

00:35:57.960 You got banned from Australia.

00:35:58.940 It's a gangster.

00:36:00.300 Yeah, and I was, like, you know.

00:36:01.900 Super bad.

00:36:02.780 Because I, I taught, people try to tell me, like, you know, because I talk about world Jewry being a thing,

00:36:07.560 and how, you know, it's an international cabal that works together, you know, for the betterment of Israel,

00:36:12.060 and they're located all across the world.

00:36:13.420 And I use that example of how they got you literally banned in Australia,

00:36:16.140 even though they represent, like, 2% of the population.

00:36:19.360 How did that even happen?

00:36:20.500 Like, how'd you get notified?

00:36:22.520 Like, yeah.

00:36:23.320 How'd that even come about?

00:36:24.400 I was going to tour in Australia, and the Zionist lobby found out, and they publicly posted,

00:36:31.440 it was, like, the Zionist organization of Australia, maybe it was ZOA, publicly posted this thing.

00:36:36.260 Like, they're a equivalent of AIPAC, right, essentially?

00:36:38.280 Yeah.

00:36:39.100 It's another AIPAC.

00:36:40.700 There's so many of Zionist organizations.

00:36:42.300 And I will say, on the conservative side of Australia, the Jewish conservatives did also

00:36:49.980 write a letter in support of me saying, like, we disagree with her, but she should be allowed

00:36:53.160 to speak.

00:36:54.160 But they were effectively the ADL, and they posted this thing and publicly said that I should

00:37:00.680 not be allowed in.

00:37:01.660 My rhetoric was dangerous.

00:37:03.580 They lied and said that I said that Jews, what did they say that I said?

00:37:08.460 That Jews drink the blood of children, which was, I mean, it's just, like, completely. 1.00

00:37:14.040 The blood libel?

00:37:15.360 It was unbelievable.

00:37:16.080 I mean, the way that that came about was me liking a tweet, literally a like of a tweet

00:37:20.400 of a person who called out Rabbi Shmuley and said, Rabbi Shmuley had told a huge lie about

00:37:26.500 me, so they were replying to Rabbi Shmuley and said, you didn't include that she, and then,

00:37:32.420 like, told the truth about what I said, and then they ended their thing with, are you drunk

00:37:36.340 on Christian blood again?

00:37:37.680 So me liking this tweet, they went full media press court.

00:37:43.620 I mean, it's just unbelievable.

00:37:44.620 Candace says, I'm like, are you kidding me?

00:37:46.440 It was so obvious why I liked this tweet.

00:37:47.980 Like, this person debunked Rabbi Shmuley's lie, but this is how they lie.

00:37:51.080 This is how they lie.

00:37:52.820 And they take everything literal.

00:37:53.900 They take everything literally.

00:37:54.220 Even if it's hyperbole or whatever, it's like, oh, look at you, vile, antisemite.

00:37:57.740 Yeah, and I'm like, obviously, I like this tweet because he defended, like, he pointed out

00:38:01.580 that Rabbi Shmuley told a ridiculous lie that had nothing to do with anything.

00:38:04.660 Yeah, he said that my followers threatened to kill him or something.

00:38:07.340 Something very serious.

00:38:08.380 And he was like, you're showing this inbox.

00:38:10.580 Didn't he try to sue you for that?

00:38:12.060 No, he threatened to sue.

00:38:14.260 And so, yeah, it was quite a time.

00:38:17.880 But they successfully got me banned.

00:38:19.520 I've never been in trouble.

00:38:21.220 Nothing.

00:38:21.560 And they decided that I am too dangerous to speak in their country.

00:38:25.340 So that I still think, and this has been my belief, everything that is happening, God

00:38:32.060 wants to happen.

00:38:32.900 So when that happened, it was because Australians needed to understand something about their country.

00:38:37.880 Because people who didn't like me, who didn't support me or weren't conservative in their

00:38:42.560 country, kind of looked up and went, why is this, like, mom of four being banned from our 1.00

00:38:47.900 country?

00:38:48.560 No matter what I think about her, I certainly don't think she's a threat, that she shouldn't

00:38:51.520 be allowed in.

00:38:52.160 Like, and we've got literally people who have been accused of murder, people who have violated

00:38:58.280 their visas in other countries, people that rap about murder are allowed in here.

00:39:01.840 And you're telling me she's saying something that's so dangerous.

00:39:05.020 And it, I think, contributed to more people listening to my podcast.

00:39:08.740 What is she saying?

00:39:10.200 So I do feel we are in this time where the more that they lie, it rebounds very quickly

00:39:17.820 onto them and it creates more pressure against them.

00:39:20.400 And they can't stop lying.

00:39:22.220 So yeah, because you can never lie once, right?

00:39:24.280 Like they always say when you lie once, then you have to keep lying to perpetuate that same

00:39:28.540 lie.

00:39:28.860 Right.

00:39:29.500 So New Zealand also banned you, right?

00:39:31.480 And then you were able to get, how'd you go about being allowed to come back to New

00:39:35.400 Zealand?

00:39:35.680 Did they write a petition or how'd that happen?

00:39:37.560 No, actually their person.

00:39:38.960 So they have a reciprocal system, which is weird.

00:39:41.020 But if Australia bans you, you get automatically banned in New Zealand.

00:39:45.120 So New Zealand didn't actually ban me.

00:39:46.720 Tony Burke in Australia banned me and they have some weird reciprocal system.

00:39:50.140 Then when they found out their minister and his name was Chris something, I should remember

00:39:54.900 it, was like, I'm just against this.

00:39:57.000 And he reversed it.

00:39:58.100 Gotcha.

00:39:58.400 Yeah.

00:39:58.560 So he had the power to reverse it.

00:39:59.920 So New Zealand actually stood firm on, on free speech.

00:40:03.260 Okay.

00:40:03.280 I didn't know that.

00:40:03.760 So like basically when one party does something, the other one kind of reciprocates it, but

00:40:08.040 they do have some type of veto power.

00:40:09.760 What other ways I guess has the Zionist lobby came after you?

00:40:12.260 I've seen ADL articles.

00:40:13.380 I've seen SPLC, right?

00:40:14.780 They target me too.

00:40:15.840 Oh gosh, it was everything.

00:40:17.100 It was everything.

00:40:18.920 They...

00:40:19.440 Did they allow me to get you demonetized on YouTube too?

00:40:21.340 Absolutely.

00:40:22.060 That came from the awesome Jew.

00:40:23.800 Yep.

00:40:24.420 The awesome Jew who was in attendance, by the way, when Charlie got peer oppression in

00:40:28.200 the Hamptons.

00:40:30.000 And yeah, it was just a full court.

00:40:32.360 They were like, just start mass reporting her for violence and violent rhetoric. 0.97

00:40:37.860 And they did that.

00:40:38.840 And then I got, I had no strikes.

00:40:40.700 And then I went to all strikes overnight and YouTube demonetized us.

00:40:44.800 We were demonetized for six months, I think.

00:40:47.340 It was like September, maybe it was four months.

00:40:50.660 And so that was, you can't make any money on YouTube.

00:40:55.020 So we had to then, yeah, we had to then build our own website, which we did.

00:41:00.240 So what it forces you to do is to kind of, to become your own power center, right?

00:41:04.680 If you ban people everywhere and you say, you can't, you know, you're not allowed to

00:41:07.920 fight in this realm, we're going to start building our own realms.

00:41:10.140 And I think they're learning that lesson is that there seems to be the opposite thing

00:41:13.460 that's happening.

00:41:14.040 So they, yeah, they would attack us on YouTube.

00:41:17.500 They obviously got a petition to get me fired, banned from Australia.

00:41:21.780 They went after like my family members, obviously.

00:41:26.060 They tried to pretend that there was all this friction between me and my husband's father.

00:41:30.420 And that could not be further from the truth.

00:41:32.500 He, I love my husband's family.

00:41:34.320 They have always treated me very well.

00:41:36.240 But they wanted that narrative out there because it was part of the cancellation is

00:41:39.480 even though her own family hates her.

00:41:41.640 No, we have different viewpoints.

00:41:44.220 People can support Israel.

00:41:45.580 People cannot support Israel. 0.92

00:41:46.660 You don't marry into ideas.

00:41:48.620 Yeah, yeah, of course.

00:41:49.500 Of course, there's nothing wrong with having disagreements.

00:41:51.300 Right.

00:41:52.160 And I'm just thinking, whatever, what else they attacked is, it's just, it's been nonstop.

00:41:56.720 And then of course the lawsuits, you know, nonstop legal lawfare.

00:41:59.880 So right now, you know, between you, Tucker, Nick, they're attacking all three of you guys

00:42:07.900 saying, oh, you guys are anti-Semites and you guys are pushing this whole thing.

00:42:11.100 And I give credit because you three have done an incredible job of, you know,

00:42:15.460 awaring the American public on this topic when it comes to Israel's control in the Middle

00:42:19.960 East, what they're doing over there, how they've been able to get away with this for

00:42:22.380 so long, killing people and no one knowing.

00:42:24.380 And, you know, they've been targeting you guys quite a bit.

00:42:28.640 And I see that, you know, there's been a bunch of drama with Megyn Kelly and Ben Shapiro and

00:42:33.140 everything else like that.

00:42:34.440 What are your thoughts on the entire, on the situation?

00:42:36.560 Because like, you know, anytime they mentioned Tucker, you're right there, right?

00:42:39.180 When it comes to the criticism of Israel.

00:42:41.060 Yeah.

00:42:41.320 Even Bibi Netanyahu name checking us was crazy on the TikTok thing and why they needed to buy 0.98

00:42:46.480 TikTok.

00:42:47.740 They're letting you know, this is a psychological operation.

00:42:50.340 That's what they're telling you.

00:42:51.240 They've gone mask down.

00:42:52.220 And it just, they've just come more inward.

00:42:56.160 I have no idea why they kept attaching me to Tucker Carlson.

00:42:58.780 They wanted both of us gone.

00:43:00.960 And they-

00:43:01.780 Mark Levin loves you.

00:43:02.460 Yeah, I know.

00:43:04.320 They force fired Tucker.

00:43:06.420 They force fired me.

00:43:07.460 And then they realized, oh, we don't, we can't control them.

00:43:10.240 And we started having to build our own power centers and they didn't like that.

00:43:14.180 And they made you guys bigger.

00:43:15.160 Exactly.

00:43:15.800 So, and then with the Nick Fuentes thing, I promise you, I had never heard the Nick Fuentes backstory

00:43:21.420 until after I was fired from Daily Wire, there was this Twitter audio or X audio space that

00:43:28.300 he did with Jeremy Boring, who at that time was the CEO of Daily Wire.

00:43:32.240 And I heard the backstory.

00:43:33.240 I was like, this is insane.

00:43:34.440 Like what happened to him?

00:43:35.360 Nobody can look at that backstory of what happened to him and not realize that it was just evil.

00:43:40.720 They did everything they can to contain him.

00:43:42.360 It's ridiculous.

00:43:42.800 This is like, he was, had his life ahead of him.

00:43:45.620 And so you kind of root, you root for that.

00:43:47.600 You're like, no matter how I feel about him, I root for him against the Zionist lobby. 0.97

00:43:53.720 And this rule that you can't speak to Nick, why can't I speak to Nick?

00:43:57.320 Can't my audience decide whether or not they want to listen to him?

00:43:59.700 There's this false idea of platforming him that somehow that's going to be harmful.

00:44:04.540 And you can't platform him.

00:44:08.080 If I platform him and Nick seems likable, right?

00:44:12.880 And then he goes on his show and he says horrific things.

00:44:15.280 And my listeners then go over to his show.

00:44:17.660 They're not going to keep listening to Nick.

00:44:19.440 They're actually then going to have questions about me.

00:44:21.780 Let the people decide.

00:44:22.600 Let the people decide.

00:44:23.320 You don't get to think for people.

00:44:25.180 There's nothing such thing as platforming ideas.

00:44:27.320 If people are following that idea, that is on the people.

00:44:30.800 And they are smart enough to make their own decisions.

00:44:32.660 I don't need to tell people to listen to Nick, to not listen to Nick, to platform Nick, to not platform Nick.

00:44:38.140 If I want to talk to Nick, I'll talk to Nick.

00:44:39.380 If I don't want to talk to Nick, I don't talk to Nick.

00:44:40.880 And there's something about the true free markets that Zionists can't stand. 1.00

00:44:45.200 They're constantly manipulating the markets so that people think that they are number one and they're not.

00:44:50.160 They actually require censorship in order for them to be number one.

00:44:54.220 Yeah.

00:44:54.520 Yeah.

00:44:54.680 And that's their game.

00:44:55.400 And, you know, seeing Ben Shapiro have a meltdown, you know, you know, they had the Republican Jewish coalition a couple of weeks ago.

00:45:02.660 And just saying, like, oh, these people are platforming, whatever.

00:45:05.160 I find it interesting how, like, they never, like, because when you guys, if you actually listen to the interviews that you guys do a lot of the times, it's like, oh, this makes perfect sense.

00:45:12.400 I understand, like, why you have this worldview.

00:45:14.800 They never criticize what you guys talk about.

00:45:16.620 Right.

00:45:16.840 They always criticize you guys directly saying they're pushing anti-Semitism.

00:45:19.800 What are they saying?

00:45:20.340 That's anti-Semitic.

00:45:21.500 Oh, well, it's just anti-Semitic. 0.66

00:45:23.160 And they don't even want to have the discussion or debate or anything.

00:45:25.820 Yeah.

00:45:25.940 Yeah, because when you hear Nick Fuentes' backstory, it's compelling.

00:45:28.760 It just is.

00:45:29.680 I was compelled when I heard it.

00:45:30.740 I actually haven't gotten around to watching his interview with Tucker.

00:45:32.780 It's on my to-do list this weekend.

00:45:34.460 But I'm assuming he told his backstory.

00:45:36.220 Yeah.

00:45:36.420 And then people look at it and go, what is up with the Zionist lobby that they're going after 18-year-old kids for questioning Israel?

00:45:43.440 That's actually what they're fearful of, is people understanding just how long this has been going on, how vicious it is that it will even go after an 18-year-old who's just asking questions, literally.

00:45:55.940 And, yeah, I think that's what it is.

00:45:58.600 It's the mass awakening that's happening.

00:46:00.540 Yeah.

00:46:00.820 No.

00:46:01.160 And, you know, I credit you, Tucker, Nick, some of the biggest voices in it, like, waking people up to this problem that we've had for so long.

00:46:08.900 Right.

00:46:09.040 I mean, it got us into wars, and I do think that we're making an impact on it because when I remember when Trump bombed Iran, he had a lot of pressure on him not to do it.

00:46:17.540 Right.

00:46:17.820 And he was, like, kind of going back and forth.

00:46:19.880 I know Steve Bannon had, like, went to the White House and told him, don't do it or at least push it off a little bit.

00:46:23.940 And he bombed him, and then he ended it there.

00:46:25.760 Right.

00:46:26.080 Who knows if, you know, if he didn't have that pressure from his base to not go to war, if he would have expanded the conflict because we know Israel wanted to.

00:46:33.160 Right.

00:46:33.280 If this was, like, 2003, who knows if we wouldn't have just gotten into, like, a full-on war.

00:46:36.400 But I think big voices in social media that we didn't have back in 2003 were able to kind of pressure, like, hey, we voted for no wars.

00:46:43.420 Like, and then it kind of forced him to be like, oh, I want to keep the base.

00:46:46.500 All right, just bomb him and get out of here.

00:46:47.540 Because that was even very unpopular.

00:46:49.240 And then you saw the neocons go, oh, you were panicking.

00:46:52.040 It was just going to be, and the whole time you guys were just panicking, and it was just one response.

00:46:55.820 You thought there was going to be a broader war.

00:46:57.460 And John Miller put it quite succinctly.

00:46:59.600 And he tweeted, and he said, no, it's because we panicked and freaked out that this didn't happen.

00:47:05.680 This is like saying robbers outside, you're trying to rob your house, your dogs start barking, and the robber goes away.

00:47:12.440 And they're like, oh, you were just panicking.

00:47:13.600 It's like, no, it's because the dogs were barking that this thing didn't happen.

00:47:17.280 So, no, every time you are, which, by the way, he still wants, he still wants his war with Iran. 0.55

00:47:22.880 They still want a regime change in Iran.

00:47:24.400 And we have to continue to bark and continue to say that it's not okay.

00:47:27.800 And it worked because we held the line on it and used our platforms to say, this is like, this is the red line.

00:47:33.740 Yeah, no wars.

00:47:34.560 And he literally was very ambiguous about it for days.

00:47:38.080 So, and I think a big part of that is from all the pressure from his base with people that have big platforms.

00:47:42.500 And this is kind of a beautiful thing where we have with alternative media,

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00:47:48.040 The Iraq war, there was no dissent. 0.91

00:47:49.680 We're going and nobody cares.

00:47:51.100 And we don't, you know, there was no one else talking about it.

00:47:53.680 The news was super pro war.

00:47:55.080 Everyone wanted to go to war.

00:47:56.320 And it wasn't until 10, 15 years later that the smoke evaporated.

00:47:59.300 We're like, oh, this was a waste of time.

00:48:01.160 Why did we go to, Islam has nothing to do with bin Laden.

00:48:03.340 Like, it didn't make sense.

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00:49:15.520 So let me ask you about, I guess, real quick with Harvey Weinstein.

00:49:19.120 What got you interested in getting his story out there?

00:49:21.920 So actually, I started working on the Harvey Weinstein documentary when I was at the Daily Wire, which, yeah.

00:49:26.840 So somebody on his team reached out to me because they thought that I would be the only person that would look at this fairly.

00:49:33.640 Which is interesting because obviously he and I, and he's gave millions to the ADL.

00:49:38.400 You know what I'm saying?

00:49:39.300 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:39.700 So we were this very unlikely duo and I thought he was guilty.

00:49:42.320 I thought there had to have been some guilt.

00:49:44.020 I mean, there were so many women that were coming out. 1.00

00:49:45.960 But this is how the media is effective at psychology is that they know if they say something over and over again, it becomes true.

00:49:51.360 And actually, I realized I didn't know anything about the case.

00:49:53.900 And when I took a look at it, I was shocked.

00:49:55.660 There is no question that Harvey Weinstein should not be in prison right now.

00:49:59.660 And that's the definition of Me Too right there.

00:50:02.020 Yeah, they took him out.

00:50:03.420 Who took him out?

00:50:04.380 Why they took him out?

00:50:05.240 That part still is not clear to me.

00:50:06.780 But it should terrify any woman, especially me who has three sons, that they can do that.

00:50:12.720 I think Me Too, what it represented was hostile takeovers of companies.

00:50:16.500 That's kind of a theme, right?

00:50:18.040 If you start to go back, you look at from Michael Jackson to Kanye to Britney Spears.

00:50:25.360 These are hostile takeovers of companies.

00:50:27.240 And I think Me Too was a proliferation where they hostily took over a bunch of companies.

00:50:31.400 And that's my instinct about it.

00:50:34.460 And he was big.

00:50:36.360 So maybe he wasn't playing ball.

00:50:37.440 I actually do now have it on my mind that I want to ask him about this argument he had

00:50:41.200 with Jeffrey Epstein that I learned about.

00:50:44.000 I was very passionate about just telling the truth because the Me Too movement is problematic.

00:50:48.680 I have a real investment in this.

00:50:51.260 I have sons.

00:50:51.960 So I don't care what people think or need to think.

00:50:56.280 I'm not voting for him to be my husband.

00:50:58.620 I'm not voting for him to be the president of the United States.

00:51:00.340 I'm not voting for him to be my pastor.

00:51:01.580 I'm telling you that he was accused of something and the media completely lied to you about

00:51:07.460 the circumstances.

00:51:08.920 And it should terrify you because it means that our courts are corrupted.

00:51:12.800 And they are.

00:51:13.460 We know that.

00:51:14.020 We know our courts are corrupted.

00:51:15.800 Why?

00:51:16.460 Maybe through the same system of blackmail.

00:51:18.280 You've got judges.

00:51:18.760 They've got judges in their pockets.

00:51:20.540 But there is that's a part of the matrix.

00:51:22.880 The court system is a part of it.

00:51:24.280 And I give you credit because, you know, you've you're very brave for doing that, because

00:51:27.620 just like with the George Floyd documentary that you did, which was going against the

00:51:31.100 reign, right?

00:51:32.940 A lot of people gave you, you know, slack for that.

00:51:35.080 Like, oh, why are you interviewing this, you know, pervert? 0.74

00:51:37.280 And why are you going ahead and, you know, trying to destroy the legacy of George Floyd?

00:51:41.260 So, you know, I give you a lot of credit for like, because I do think that this whole

00:51:44.460 like, you know, me too situation and false accusations is very real.

00:51:47.960 It matters.

00:51:48.680 You know, athletes and professionals are constantly getting accused of stuff.

00:51:52.060 I mean, we can look at what's going on with Andrew Tate, where, you know, it's like

00:51:55.100 every other month, you know, something is getting dropped or a loss is being dropped

00:51:58.660 here or they're finding out that this woman lied here or the 0.72

00:52:01.080 there was a, I think a pro soccer player that recently got out after having his life

00:52:05.040 destroyed.

00:52:05.540 So like this me too thing is a huge problem in the Western world.

00:52:10.640 So let me ask you this with Charlie Kirk, because you're definitely one of the most

00:52:15.140 outspoken people when it comes to the Charlie Kirk investigation and what's going on there.

00:52:21.280 Obviously, you knew him personally.

00:52:22.260 You guys have worked together for many years.

00:52:25.280 I'll kind of just turn it to you and you can just tell me because you've been looking at

00:52:27.800 this for a while now.

00:52:28.520 It's almost two.

00:52:29.100 Yeah.

00:52:29.340 It's over two months now.

00:52:31.460 Can you take us through what you think happened on that day?

00:52:35.220 What led you to believe that?

00:52:36.920 And the timeline in general, who you think is actually responsible, you know, who might

00:52:41.620 be covering things up and everything like that.

00:52:43.840 Yeah.

00:52:44.180 So I can tell you that I view the Charlie Kirk assassination as a military hit.

00:52:51.280 I do not know who called the hit yet, but it's, it's military.

00:52:55.760 There's no question in my mind that it was a military.

00:52:57.900 You think U.S. or foreign?

00:52:58.360 Well, I think I don't view the U.S. military as being controlled by the U.S.

00:53:05.160 I mean, there's, there are a lot of people you can, we've been globalized for a very long

00:53:10.140 time.

00:53:11.200 I don't know that there's a difference in, there's decisions that are made in Ukraine

00:53:16.360 for America.

00:53:17.580 I mean, this is the tentacles of the U.S. military.

00:53:21.380 It's a much broader and longer conversation that needs to be had.

00:53:24.640 I mean, I think since JFK was assassinating, I don't know who's in control of anything,

00:53:27.820 right?

00:53:28.700 Much of what we see in the political realm is just an illusion.

00:53:31.700 We're talking about what's happening in Congress and decisions are made in boardrooms, in my

00:53:35.760 view.

00:53:36.780 With Charlie, I think that with everything that I have uncovered, there was very clearly

00:53:43.020 a faith infiltration that happened.

00:53:46.460 And I'm putting faith in quotation marks because Charlie would have believed the people that came 1.00

00:53:54.120 to him and told him to grow the organization and, you know, to become the boots on the ground

00:53:58.040 for faith.

00:53:59.080 He cared very deeply about his faith.

00:54:01.460 And the characters, the cast of characters and the pastors that are around him, rotten,

00:54:07.940 like very rotten.

00:54:09.240 The McCoys, Rob McCoy, unbelievably rotten.

00:54:12.820 And I've been covering a lot with him.

00:54:14.200 And what it's looking like is that that Calvary Chapel has been accused of tons in the past

00:54:23.060 and also accused of hostily taking over well-meaning faith organizations and ministries with Rob McCoy

00:54:31.060 at the center of some of these scandals.

00:54:33.760 It's looking to me like Turning Point's apparatus provided an opportunity.

00:54:39.800 Now, who they're actually working for, what they're actually doing, I don't know.

00:54:44.980 But I can tell you it is not about Jesus Christ.

00:54:47.980 Okay.

00:54:48.440 Okay.

00:54:49.020 And this would explain why, for some unknown reason, Christian Zionist influencers have been

00:54:56.440 losing their minds about the idea of investigating the Charlie Kirk assassination.

00:55:01.240 It's odd.

00:55:01.960 Like I looked up and I'm going, why are Christian Zionists trying to use Bible verses to say that 1.00

00:55:07.340 we shouldn't question anything?

00:55:08.780 I mean, everybody knows you were a cop.

00:55:10.980 The first thing you do when there's been a murder is to look around at the money,

00:55:16.480 the finances, and the people around them.

00:55:18.660 Common sense.

00:55:19.940 Common sense.

00:55:21.180 Like, and then you pair that with the actual impossible things that they are telling us.

00:55:27.680 It was a Christian miracle.

00:55:29.780 His neck just stopped a 30-odd six from 150 yards away.

00:55:34.640 It was just your modern Christian miracle, you know? 0.99

00:55:38.780 That's fed slop, but it's worse than that.

00:55:41.580 It's Christian slop. 1.00

00:55:43.000 People using the Bible to psychologically convince you. 0.98

00:55:47.240 You know, Jesus performed miracles and this was just one of them.

00:55:49.920 Charlie loved his faith.

00:55:52.180 They're lying about weird stuff.

00:55:53.940 I consider it a clue that they are lying about where Charlie was at in terms of his faith

00:56:00.160 journey.

00:56:00.680 They lied about the Hampton Summit.

00:56:02.740 They lied about the fact that he had said, I have no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel

00:56:08.640 cause.

00:56:08.900 I just watched them all lie because I needed to see where all the stakes were.

00:56:12.120 These are weird lies.

00:56:13.380 Yeah.

00:56:13.940 The one thing that connects all of these lies is faith.

00:56:18.520 So that's where the focus of my investigation is right now.

00:56:21.600 And I'm coming up looking and going, all of these characters are dirty that were around

00:56:25.500 him.

00:56:25.720 So you're not going to hold up a Bible like a false prophet and tell me not to look here

00:56:32.480 or else I'm going to be condemned to hell.

00:56:34.300 Because let me tell you how the Bible works.

00:56:36.000 Okay.

00:56:36.580 Christ is king.

00:56:37.580 What that means is truth is king.

00:56:39.740 And if anybody is using the Bible to tell you not to pursue truth, you are dealing with

00:56:43.620 somebody who is manipulating you.

00:56:46.560 Who do you think, I guess, I know you said the people around them, but who do you think

00:56:50.280 is the most responsible?

00:56:51.160 Why would they want him gone?

00:56:51.880 I think Charlie was not allowed to be anything but a Christian Zionist. 0.94

00:56:59.720 And he was changing in the last few weeks.

00:57:02.820 When I look at the timeline that I put together, some weird stuff, this Egyptian plane that started 0.98

00:57:08.960 tracking him, everything began ratcheting up after Tucker Carlson hit the stage.

00:57:16.060 In July.

00:57:16.760 I was there for that.

00:57:17.880 Yeah.

00:57:18.680 That pissed him off.

00:57:19.860 That was a something.

00:57:20.880 Yeah.

00:57:22.000 So I think Charlie was done as he, as Megan showed the video, he was telling Tucker to

00:57:27.500 go max, all of the things that they lied about, we've now proven.

00:57:30.960 And why were they lying about it?

00:57:33.460 That's why this is the thing.

00:57:34.280 Why lie if you have nothing to cover up?

00:57:35.860 That's my common sense here.

00:57:38.740 You only lie because you have something to cover up.

00:57:41.560 No matter what the lie is, you only lie because there's something that you're hiding.

00:57:44.900 So if they had all come out right when Charlie died, if Seth Dillon, who pressed Charlie in

00:57:49.020 the Hamptons was like, oh, my gosh, my biggest regret is the last time I saw Charlie, I was

00:57:53.640 being such a jerk about the Israel. 0.66

00:57:55.300 They were so stupid.

00:57:56.340 And this is a reminder that you never know when you're going to see somebody last.

00:57:58.580 I'd have been like, oh, OK, nothing to see here.

00:58:00.540 It was like a full court press effort to lie about everything.

00:58:03.960 Josh Hammer.

00:58:04.480 He never blinked on Israel. 0.94

00:58:05.640 He was on the text message chain where Charlie said 48 hours before he died that he was done

00:58:12.840 with the provisional cause.

00:58:14.340 Why lie?

00:58:15.760 That's my question.

00:58:17.200 And I don't like the silence from Turning Point employees.

00:58:20.240 I know for a fact one of them, I'm not going to name, has a text message from Charlie the

00:58:25.160 day before he died saying they are going to kill me.

00:58:29.620 Wow.

00:58:29.840 Now, he was not referring to the trans lobby when he wrote that message.

00:58:33.840 So why not if you are his friend and you're interested in the truth, why wouldn't you

00:58:41.400 tell the public that?

00:58:42.720 Wouldn't you just come right out to the public and say, hey, I don't know what happened,

00:58:46.220 but like Charlie thought they were going to kill him.

00:58:48.640 I do not like the way Turning Point is behaving.

00:58:52.980 I've made that clear.

00:58:54.140 And nobody is going to emotionally manipulate me and tell me that it's all good now.

00:58:59.540 And to attack Turning Point would be to attack his legacy.

00:59:02.380 Charlie told me years ago that he had, which I shared the messages.

00:59:07.580 He was having a ton of visions and was telling me that he, Turning Point was going to be

00:59:10.540 the death of him.

00:59:11.080 He knew he was going to die young and strangely knew that I was going to be the only person

00:59:14.800 to defend him.

00:59:15.620 Right.

00:59:16.560 I showed the messages.

00:59:17.840 Yeah.

00:59:18.140 I showed the messages.

00:59:18.880 They tried to say it was fake and you pulled it up and yeah.

00:59:20.740 So it's, it's, it's, we're here, we're here now and I'm going to defend him and I'm

00:59:25.100 going to figure out what happened.

00:59:25.880 What are your thoughts on, um, how Erica Kirk has been dealing with this and some of the

00:59:31.020 people that are close to him, um, his manager, uh, Mike and all them, like, do you think

00:59:35.220 they're just playing a role?

00:59:36.640 Do you think they're involved?

00:59:37.460 What are your thoughts on them in general?

00:59:38.660 That's some of the people in his closest circle.

00:59:40.460 It is obvious to me that Mikey McCoy was the person that they wanted to launch as the

00:59:45.980 new Charlie.

00:59:46.560 That's very obvious the way they brought his YouTube channel back with a speech from Mikey

00:59:50.200 and everyone was kind of trying to soft sell Mikey to us.

00:59:53.480 And I was like, who's this kid?

00:59:54.340 It was a 20, you're 23.

00:59:56.140 Why are you the chief of staff of anything?

00:59:57.780 You didn't go to college.

00:59:58.360 Who are you actually?

00:59:59.800 And you're brought in by Rob, your dad, who is dirty.

01:00:03.520 I mean, very dirty guy covered more of that yesterday.

01:00:06.580 Um, he just gives me the sleaze and the ick.

01:00:08.620 And it just is very strange that they, I felt like they tried to manipulate us into accepting

01:00:13.660 this almost like they had like, Mikey's going to be this person.

01:00:17.760 Then we see Mikey, he's a hero and he just walks away right after somebody like that doesn't

01:00:23.100 make any sense to me.

01:00:24.480 And, um, yeah, you know, with Erica, a lot of people on the internet have been going into

01:00:31.920 her past, going into her parents' past and, you know, just speaking about these things.

01:00:35.760 Israel defense contractors, parents, stuff like that.

01:00:38.180 I've seen all of that.

01:00:39.220 I respond to that on my show.

01:00:40.400 And what I've said to everybody is I'm starting with what happened on that day, what happened

01:00:44.320 leading up to his, um, assassination and the people that catch my attention are people who

01:00:48.380 are telling verifiable lies.

01:00:50.360 Okay.

01:00:51.060 Erica thus far has not told any verifiable lies.

01:00:54.260 She did not lie about the fact that he had, uh, St. Michael on him when he died.

01:00:58.600 So there's two things.

01:01:02.140 She could be on autopilot and some people could be reading that the wrong way and thinking,

01:01:07.340 oh, well, she's like, she's not acting right.

01:01:09.020 Okay.

01:01:09.280 Is she on autopilot because she fears something?

01:01:12.900 Right.

01:01:13.340 Again, we don't know what's happening behind the scenes, but you have to have some level

01:01:18.440 of fear.

01:01:19.860 If you watch somebody get assassinated, I don't know.

01:01:25.800 I just, I just don't know.

01:01:26.900 Yeah.

01:01:27.020 And so people have been upset with me for not going, you know, down the rabbit hole on

01:01:31.900 my show about Erica's parents.

01:01:35.200 People's parents are people's parents. 0.70

01:01:37.180 They haven't yet come up in my investigation.

01:01:39.000 If I find out that her parents were involved and then, then it's going to catch my investment.

01:01:44.060 And there's nobody that will be spared once they come up, once they tell a lie, once they,

01:01:48.080 I come across something.

01:01:49.160 I just literally have not come across anything with Frank Turek.

01:01:53.140 Also, I haven't come across anything with Erica in my investigation.

01:01:56.360 So, um, the shooter, uh, or the alleged shooter, you think they're a patsy?

01:02:01.840 Of course they're a patsy.

01:02:03.080 I mean, come on.

01:02:03.540 It's just so dumb.

01:02:04.480 It's so, he wasn't even on campus that day.

01:02:05.900 They can't show us one clear image, not even one, all of these cameras turning point has

01:02:10.820 everything in 4k.

01:02:12.340 So shouldn't you have caught the shooter on the roof in 4k?

01:02:14.820 Like you had cameras everywhere that day, every inch of that campus is covered.

01:02:18.760 So you think that was someone else that was running across?

01:02:20.060 Absolutely.

01:02:20.440 It wasn't Tyler?

01:02:21.040 Absolutely.

01:02:21.680 Someone that just, I don't even know if there was a person that sprinted that day because

01:02:25.920 everyone's forgetting, there was also a news report that came out a week before that somebody

01:02:32.800 was on the roof and a professor came out and waved the person that they may have been

01:02:36.740 dropping off a gun, dropping off the screwdriver.

01:02:39.080 I don't know.

01:02:39.880 Cause there was one video, like one of the students had panned out where he was running.

01:02:42.520 But that person who took that video that I had to track down.

01:02:44.920 Okay.

01:02:45.340 Military.

01:02:46.380 Really?

01:02:47.640 Everybody's military in the story.

01:02:48.900 Really?

01:02:49.460 So the person that captured that, cause I remember when it first broke out, that cell phone footage

01:02:53.440 got released where the shot goes off and for some odd reason, he's looking at the roof

01:02:57.340 and you see like a little speck running on the top.

01:03:00.000 So that person that took that video was military.

01:03:02.020 I got in touch with the person and they didn't put up it.

01:03:03.860 They didn't put the video up themselves.

01:03:04.940 I had to go through three people.

01:03:06.600 I'm like, so I'm supposed to believe you're like a college kid and you have nothing to

01:03:09.640 do with anything.

01:03:10.080 You just decided to randomly like be like, oh, I got this video, but I'm going to sit

01:03:12.900 through three people to have it released.

01:03:14.740 Interesting.

01:03:15.180 And also the Losey building where the shot definitely did not come from is the only place on campus

01:03:20.180 that houses, I believe on the third floor, according to my source, like the military

01:03:23.700 something is, is in the Losey building.

01:03:26.100 So there's a lot happening, uh, that all of that was just a show to mask who the real

01:03:32.280 shooter was.

01:03:32.840 I think it's way more likely that the shooter was in the audience or, uh, to the side of

01:03:37.740 the audience.

01:03:38.260 I think that's more, that's the more likely story because he wasn't shot with a 30 odd

01:03:42.220 six first and foremost, and the bullets did not destroy his neck.

01:03:47.020 I know that for a fact and he actually, uh, yeah, 30 odd six throws everybody off.

01:03:54.140 Like, but that was their plan until I accidentally, which I didn't even process it at the time

01:03:59.540 revealed that the bullet didn't go through.

01:04:01.220 Yeah.

01:04:01.640 And then they kind of were like, oh, it was just a miracle.

01:04:04.360 Actually, it was no 30 odd six.

01:04:06.360 Yeah.

01:04:06.460 The text messages are a bit strange too.

01:04:08.520 And you know, this whole situation, like I, I wish the government was being a bit more

01:04:12.640 transparent because this has an incredible amount of public interest.

01:04:14.960 So it's like, look, dude, you guys probably should be more transparent on this because

01:04:18.280 government trust is down at its lowest when it comes to people trusting law enforcement

01:04:21.900 or whatever.

01:04:22.660 What are your thoughts on, um, how the FBI and the state police are handling this in

01:04:27.260 general?

01:04:27.780 Cause I know you've been critical.

01:04:28.760 I think what's way more important is trusting Alexis Wilkins as a sensational singer and the 0.80

01:04:34.440 people, be careful.

01:04:36.460 She might sue you. 0.99

01:04:37.080 I don't want to talk about like the feds right now.

01:04:39.460 Like they're doing what they have to do.

01:04:40.440 The more important thing is that this sensational country singer is left alone.

01:04:44.460 We are just not a serious nation.

01:04:46.160 I mean, I think if Putin's FBI director or put that out, he would just, Putin would just

01:04:52.580 quietly have him assassinated or something.

01:04:53.980 I don't know.

01:04:54.760 Uh, but we're just not a serious nation.

01:04:56.200 That is just, they are tweeting like girls on TikTok right now. 0.93

01:05:00.860 And it's embarrassing.

01:05:02.960 It is so embarrassing.

01:05:04.400 He should have been forced to resign.

01:05:06.620 Trump should have made him resign for embarrassing us because, uh, there's no way Putin's not laughing

01:05:12.160 with his homies right now about that tweet.

01:05:13.700 My girlfriend, my life partner.

01:05:16.660 Yeah.

01:05:17.200 We are a bunch of people.

01:05:19.240 It's crazy.

01:05:19.860 Crazy.

01:05:20.400 Yeah.

01:05:20.640 And obviously with his blessing, obviously with his blessing, or you would say, Hey honey,

01:05:25.620 not now.

01:05:26.400 Yeah.

01:05:26.680 Right.

01:05:26.860 This is a bad time.

01:05:27.700 This is a bad time.

01:05:28.580 I've got to be taken as a serious man.

01:05:30.120 Optically.

01:05:30.520 Yeah.

01:05:31.140 And of course the opposite thing happens now where everyone's now calling her a honeypot.

01:05:34.660 And so what's she going to do?

01:05:35.960 Like whack a mole, just sue everybody on the internet.

01:05:37.580 Who's making a joke, sue Tim Dillon or something.

01:05:39.860 Yeah.

01:05:39.980 That's absolutely nuts.

01:05:41.420 Um, so it'd be fair to say, so you don't believe the official nerve.

01:05:44.380 And I, and I do agree with you.

01:05:45.340 There's a lot of problems with it, right?

01:05:46.720 Between a 30 out six.

01:05:48.640 Why don't we have the full footage of him taking the shot, then running off.

01:05:51.300 You're only showing him running.

01:05:52.800 Um, the text messages are strange.

01:05:55.140 You don't even show us him taking the shot.

01:05:56.440 That seems like a pretty easy thing to do.

01:05:58.640 That's one of my biggest issues is they didn't show him taking a shot, but they have him

01:06:01.940 running across the roof.

01:06:02.800 So it's like, how do you not have him prone shooting the shot?

01:06:05.500 So I guess, and I know you're still investigating and figuring everything out, but if you can

01:06:10.440 kind of give me a quick summary, what do you think transpired in that day?

01:06:13.060 Who do you think is responsible?

01:06:14.600 Maybe a rough timeline.

01:06:15.780 I know you're still filling parts in, but from what you have so far, what do you think?

01:06:18.360 So this is a guess.

01:06:18.940 And this is just like, if I had to guess right now where I'm at and this, I think Tyler Robinson's

01:06:24.600 only contribution was that he had his prints on the gun.

01:06:30.400 I know that he, his prints were not the only prints that were on the gun, which is something

01:06:33.580 that they haven't been honest about.

01:06:34.640 So I would suspect that his only role, yeah, I think Lance Twiggs is much more involved.

01:06:40.960 I don't think he took the shot either, but I think he's more involved.

01:06:43.840 I think that Tyler Robinson's, all of the people that were involved that day got swept up in

01:06:49.300 pedophile stuff from George Zinn.

01:06:51.560 The guy that cheered his father is also a pedophile.

01:06:54.420 The guy next, I mean, the whole thing is like, it was an operation with blackmailed people.

01:06:58.460 The Zinn guy was at 9-11 too.

01:06:59.500 Yeah, yeah.

01:07:00.660 I mean, just unbelievable.

01:07:03.060 And again, more of a marker that this was like a blackmail operation.

01:07:07.700 Also, Zinn told a nurse that he was being paid, didn't know how he was going to be paid for

01:07:11.260 doing that after.

01:07:12.080 So he was supposed to be another patsy.

01:07:15.060 And...

01:07:15.420 Yeah, because it was like immediate.

01:07:16.700 Like he got, like when this girl broke out, he got arrested and he was like, it was out in

01:07:20.200 the news, like immediately.

01:07:21.240 Multiple people involved that day.

01:07:22.880 One person maybe just supposed to run across the rooftop.

01:07:25.320 Another, I think Tyler Robinson, all his job was to pick up clothes.

01:07:31.020 I think literally he didn't set foot on campus that day.

01:07:33.460 And his job was to get rid of the clothes next to the Dairy Queen into some cemetery, which

01:07:37.580 I broke.

01:07:38.540 And the FBI is not disputed, but they decided to monitor the Dairy Queen afterwards and send

01:07:42.440 some feds there.

01:07:44.060 And yeah, so his role was to pick up clothes.

01:07:46.900 I think Lance is actually the one that's walking in the backpack.

01:07:51.620 And, but...

01:07:53.340 Oh, the TMZ footage?

01:07:54.860 And the maroon, yep.

01:07:55.520 I think that's Lance.

01:07:56.420 The TMZ footage, okay.

01:07:56.880 And I don't know who was walking up the stairs.

01:07:58.560 I think that's a whole different person because they don't even look like they have the same

01:08:00.860 body.

01:08:01.480 Okay.

01:08:02.280 And yeah, that's how you do a nice feather operation. 1.00

01:08:04.320 You got a bunch of patsies doing different roles.

01:08:06.300 And then it shows the video of the stairway footage either, which is another thing that's

01:08:09.640 strange.

01:08:10.220 Yep.

01:08:10.680 Yeah.

01:08:11.100 Okay.

01:08:11.540 Well, no, I mean, I see you're, there's a lot of, you know, and I said it before, they've created

01:08:16.380 more questions than answers.

01:08:17.540 Right.

01:08:17.960 Right.

01:08:18.360 Which is obviously the problem here.

01:08:20.520 But, but I know we're short for time here.

01:08:23.020 So I'll just, yeah, where can people find you?

01:08:25.820 I mean, everywhere?

01:08:26.780 Yeah, you're everywhere.

01:08:27.400 Yeah.

01:08:27.900 At your local courthouse, your local courthouse being sued, if you'd like to find me, your

01:08:33.420 local news station being called anti-Semite.

01:08:35.460 Oh, one last thing.

01:08:36.980 Do you think, because I know Turning Point, they had said something about, we're going

01:08:40.100 to go after anyone that's saying anything.

01:08:41.640 Have they like reached out to you at all or contacted you?

01:08:44.180 Because you're probably one of the most outspoken critic of what's going on with this

01:08:46.740 investigation.

01:08:47.140 Happy to have any person at Turning Point on my show to discuss anything that I'm saying,

01:08:51.500 to make any corrections about anything that I'm saying.

01:08:54.380 They can make a statement for all I care.

01:08:56.600 I'm not going to stop investigating this until we're told something that makes sense, makes

01:09:00.020 rational sense.

01:09:01.020 And you're not going to tell me like you do with Israel that I'll get into heaven if I 0.98

01:09:06.300 just ignore how Charlie Kirk was killed.

01:09:08.040 Like we're not going to do, we're not going to play that game.

01:09:09.700 So say something that makes sense or you have an enemy of me.

01:09:13.300 That's pretty much it.

01:09:14.840 And if you didn't want people prying into this narrative, maybe you shouldn't have executed

01:09:20.200 him publicly.

01:09:21.240 Maybe you should have pretended he choked on an egg or something like you did with that

01:09:25.520 rapper a long while back when he started asking questions about things.

01:09:30.440 Not a good idea to get everyone emotionally invested in the story and then to tell them

01:09:34.520 to shut off their emotions.

01:09:35.580 No, I mean, you've been doing an incredible job of putting a lot of pressure on them, right?

01:09:38.900 So hopefully we, you know, get answers here because what they have out right now just

01:09:43.040 simply doesn't make sense.

01:09:44.100 So thank you so much, Candice.

01:09:45.640 I appreciate it.

01:09:46.200 Thank you.

01:09:46.380 So great.

01:09:46.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:09:47.480 And also thank you for being so patient because I know my schedule is so crazy with so many

01:09:50.780 kids.

01:09:51.320 And so it's like, we just got to make it happen.

01:09:52.720 I was like, just get them down here.

01:09:53.920 Yeah, you're a mom, you have a family, so I totally understand it.

01:09:55.880 So thank you so much.

01:09:56.840 Anytime.

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Candace Owens - January 16, 2026

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