Candace Owens - REVEALED! Trump Scolded Charlie Kirk Over Epstein. Butler Narrative Collapses. ｜ Ep 348

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00:00:30.000 All right, you guys, a happy rare Friday. This feels like it's going to be a special episode

00:00:35.420 because we don't normally do Fridays. And since we were off on Monday because I got hit with jet

00:00:39.760 lag pretty badly, we figured that we'd give you a late evening episode. I had a very, very long

00:00:44.940 press day today. So pardon me for running a bit behind schedule. But I'm glad we opted to do this

00:00:49.940 Friday show because boy, oh boy, did a lot escalates yesterday evening over on X. I mean, Tucker did

00:00:56.900 this interview with Mario Knopfel, and it's got me really wondering about Butler. Butler. Was it

00:01:04.520 staged? I think that's now a very fair question to ask. Did you guys think it was suspected any

00:01:10.340 moment that it was staged? I certainly didn't. It was definitely something that I was reticent to

00:01:14.160 even consider before. And if it was staged, by whom exactly? On that note, we received a very

00:01:21.600 bizarre response regarding our FOIA request to SAM-702. That's that Fort Huachuca plane that

00:01:30.040 was carrying one person that we can identify, Bradley Hansel, the Undersecretary of War,

00:01:34.960 just under Pete Hegseth. So let's just jump right back in. Welcome back to Candace.

00:01:51.600 All right. I'm just kind of taking this informal poll here in the chat. And a lot of people are saying, yes, staged, yes, staged, absolutely staged. But a lot of people also saying, I didn't think it was staged when it happened. And that's where I was. I just, I don't know. I was totally captivated by it. I was saddened by it. I wanted Trump to win because of this assassination attempt.

00:02:15.420 And I don't know where I sit right now, given this conversation that was started by Tucker Carlson yesterday.

00:02:21.760 So let's just right at the top here show you the clip that went absolutely viral yesterday over on X.

00:02:28.540 Tucker was joined by Mario Noffel.

00:02:31.060 And here is what he had to say regarding the first assassination attempt.

00:02:36.740 I can't believe I'm saying the first assassination attempt of President Trump, which took place in Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:02:42.860 Take a listen.

00:02:43.300 about Butler. I know that Trump shut down the investigation into Butler. That is a fact.

00:02:48.980 Dan Bongino told me that when he worked at the FBI. And Dan Bongino himself was terrified

00:02:55.960 when I spoke to him in December. It's such a long, boring story. But basically, I came

00:03:00.800 into possession, I beg your pardon, of accidentally came into possession of a lot of the social media

00:03:07.140 posts that we were told didn't exist that were posted by Thomas Crooks in the months and years

00:03:12.280 before the shooting. And I was amazed that the FBI had lied about this. So I called Cash Patel

00:03:17.220 and I later called Dan Bongino. And I says, you know, what is this? I'm not attacking you. It was

00:03:21.760 the previous FBI administration that did this. It was Chris Wray. But what is this? And Dan Bongino

00:03:28.800 became hysterical with me on the phone. I've known Dan a long time, for many years, and always gotten

00:03:35.100 along with him. You know, whatever his faults, you know, nice guy. Certainly very nice to me.

00:03:39.860 I never had a problem with Dan ever. And that problem began when I brought this information

00:03:45.620 to his attention and he became a different person. He was clearly terrified. I didn't get it at first,

00:03:50.500 but he was hysterical. And ultimately, after a long series of text exchanges, which I still have,

00:03:57.800 and phone conversations, he said, look, take it up with Trump. He's the one who shut down the

00:04:02.320 investigation. And that was, I think, the first or second week of December. I think it was the

00:04:07.880 beginning of the second week of December. I have it written down. But that was the moment and I

00:04:11.980 realized, oh, wow, you know, there's no good explanation for shutting down an investigation

00:04:16.200 into your own attempted murder. Like this is not what we've been told it was.

00:04:22.220 OK, so a lot to unpack there. The first thing I thought when I saw this was, wait, what?

00:04:28.020 Trump was the person who shuts down the investigation into his own assassination

00:04:33.840 attempt. What does that mean? And then I saw Dan Bongino's response. So just to recap what we just

00:04:41.740 heard there, Tucker says he reached out to Dan Bongino because they had been friends for a long

00:04:46.500 time. He reached out to Kash Patel because he was working on a story. That story was that we,

00:04:51.580 the people, what was communicated to us was that this Matt Crooks character, Matthew Crooks,

00:04:57.100 had absolutely no, or Thomas Crooks, Matthew Thomas Crooks or Thomas Matthew Crooks,

00:05:00.780 had absolutely no social media history.

00:05:02.900 And it turned out that he had a very long,

00:05:04.280 extensive social media history.

00:05:06.120 And the FBI was aware of this.

00:05:07.380 So he reaches out and he says,

00:05:08.560 look, you guys weren't involved.

00:05:10.420 But what is this?

00:05:12.320 Why are we being lied to?

00:05:13.700 You guys are certainly in power now.

00:05:16.500 And he says that Dan Bongino grew hysterical.

00:05:19.720 And he says that Dan Bongino was terrified.

00:05:22.580 My understanding,

00:05:23.440 and I think any rational person's understanding

00:05:25.120 of what he means,

00:05:26.400 is that this story,

00:05:28.280 the Butler story,

00:05:29.500 perhaps the Butler cover-up,

00:05:30.680 whatever it is, terrified Dan Bongino and terrified Kash Patel. Totally believable just 1.00

00:05:35.500 looking at Kash Patel. He constantly looks like he is in a state of terror. And this is how Dan

00:05:41.040 Bongino chose to respond to Tucker saying that Dan was terrified. Take a listen.

00:05:49.280 I'm not, this is not a pretend tough guy act. I'm a 51-year-old man with decaying joints.

00:05:54.760 i'm not i don't plan on fighting anyone in the ufc there's no violence is never the answer to

00:06:01.980 anything i'm not interested in any of that but i'm going to tell you straight if you think i was

00:06:06.920 terrified of tarlson then i'm really sorry like you need to take yourselves a xanax and go find

00:06:14.140 a doctor right away that's of all the things like that's the most hilarious however accusing me and

00:06:19.380 the president of a federal crime obstructing justice bizarrely the president involved in

00:06:25.460 covering up the investigation into his own attempted murder is seriously one of the most

00:06:31.380 delusional things i've ever seen and the reason i'm really starting to believe and i mean this 0.58

00:06:36.120 sincerely that tucker's just dumb i don't have any is he doesn't realize like i have these texts too 0.86

00:06:45.280 well quite a time to call tucker dumb when you completely misunderstood the context of what he 0.97

00:06:53.920 meant when he said you were terrified i don't i don't think tucker wants to fight you tucker 0.83

00:06:57.940 wears boat shoes he gives me martha vineyard vibes he's definitely wasn't saying he wanted

00:07:04.320 to fight you he's saying something scared you and something that you saw scared you

00:07:08.960 let's cool it with the aggressive nature of wanting to beat up tucker carlson like

00:07:13.840 Doesn't make you sound top 51. 0.78

00:07:16.060 Oh, beat him up.

00:07:17.200 Okay. 0.78

00:07:18.180 Then on top of that,

00:07:19.800 he completely misunderstands everything Tucker said.

00:07:22.600 Tucker was very clear that he spoke with Dan in December.

00:07:26.460 And Dan thinks that he has a ha-ha gotcha. 1.00

00:07:29.140 I'm going to prove that Tucker is stupid 1.00

00:07:31.540 by showing an article 1.00

00:07:33.480 that was published before him and Tucker spoke.

00:07:37.840 He shows an article from November,

00:07:39.580 which is completely irrelevant

00:07:40.620 to everything that Tucker just said.

00:07:41.860 Take a listen.

00:07:42.280 he says that the president shut down the butler investigation totally completely 100 percent made

00:07:52.160 up but we did a full interview with brooke singman from fox which to all the people who by the way

00:07:58.920 think tucker's for real if you think i'm doctoring any of this please go look this article up yourself

00:08:04.560 don't trust me trust the evidence here it was november 21st even before tucker says he spoke

00:08:11.080 to me in december exclusive fbi concludes trump shooter crooks acted alone after unprecedented

00:08:17.600 global investigation now he says the investigation was shut down yet here it is on the record in

00:08:24.380 november again the tucker fans will apologize for him until the end of time because they just can't

00:08:30.500 give up the kool-aid let me read this to you in case you're a tucker fan who can't read

00:08:35.220 the case that's the crooks case he says was shut down currently sits in a pending inactive status

00:08:41.820 wait keep this up andy does that say the case is closed andy's shaking said jasmine does that say

00:08:47.700 that it does not no it says the opposite this is before tucker claims he talked to me yeah but the

00:08:54.840 official this is the one of the investigators called the investigation one of the largest

00:08:58.600 mobilizations of FBI resources in history that continued to this day.

00:09:04.740 Yeah, Dan, we can come out of this.

00:09:06.860 Dan, it's because Tucker spoke to you after that.

00:09:09.400 So if the investigation was open before he spoke to Tucker and Tucker says he spoke to

00:09:13.780 you in December, everything you're saying doesn't make sense.

00:09:16.040 But beyond that, his whole face, his demeanor, he's lying.

00:09:18.800 I mean, Dan Bongino is just lying.

00:09:20.260 That's my, how I'm reading him.

00:09:22.500 He's not making any sense.

00:09:23.600 He wants to fight.

00:09:24.420 It's aggressive.

00:09:25.000 and Tucker made a statement

00:09:26.980 that he had multiple conversations with him.

00:09:29.060 Dan appeared terrified.

00:09:30.800 Tucker said it was both on the phone and via text

00:09:33.980 and he conveyed to him that it was the president

00:09:36.380 who didn't want information to come out.

00:09:38.240 And then Dan proves Tucker's point

00:09:40.000 by showing a text message

00:09:41.520 in which Dan instructs to Tucker

00:09:43.860 that if you want more information about Butler,

00:09:47.080 then you need to ask Trump to tell us to release it.

00:09:50.620 Meaning that there was more information about Butler

00:09:53.720 that Trump did not want released.

00:09:57.160 Take a listen to Dan Bongino

00:09:58.700 pull the paramount not-so-tactical.

00:10:01.860 Take a listen.

00:10:02.700 Here's the other text

00:10:03.780 where I actually go on

00:10:05.900 to further make the case.

00:10:07.500 Next, look to him.

00:10:09.660 He said, I hope you had the chance,

00:10:11.080 Tucker said, to see the piece on Crooks.

00:10:12.660 We received some information

00:10:13.820 and are planning a detailed follow-up.

00:10:15.820 Is there someone I can talk to

00:10:16.860 at the FBI before we do?

00:10:17.980 Thanks.

00:10:18.200 I said, I saw it

00:10:19.020 and that you seem to believe

00:10:20.700 that Cash and I,

00:10:21.600 who are longtime personal friends

00:10:22.900 with the president,

00:10:23.360 involved in some sinister cover-up is absurd.

00:10:27.220 I thought he said we were covering it up.

00:10:30.080 Yet in my text, leave this up, guys.

00:10:32.020 I'm saying the exact opposite, Justin, am I not?

00:10:35.480 It's almost like he's bullshitting you again.

00:10:38.280 Is the president in on it too, I asked?

00:10:40.060 He's one of the victims.

00:10:41.600 He's told us repeatedly, as he said publicly,

00:10:44.200 he's satisfied with the effort Cash and I put in.

00:10:47.080 The president's a victim in a federal crime.

00:10:49.300 And when he's ready for us to release more information

00:10:51.220 about this crime, then he'll tell us.

00:10:52.860 I suggest you give him a ring and tell him you want more.

00:10:55.440 Let me know what he says.

00:10:56.120 He's a member of the media.

00:10:57.060 People call him all the time.

00:11:00.500 Okay, so if, Dan, if the president could be called

00:11:03.980 and could be told to instruct you to release more information,

00:11:07.800 then there's more information that the president is aware

00:11:10.160 has not been released to the public.

00:11:11.460 That's everything Tucker just said,

00:11:13.200 and you don't realize that you're confirming his report by accident.

00:11:18.160 Now, I am now of the position that something is very wrong with Butler and whatever it is that is wrong with Butler, it may go a very long way in terms of explaining what is wrong with Trump, what went wrong with Trump, because we have two options here.

00:11:34.040 OK, if you almost get assassinated and you do not fire the Secret Service agents that failed to protect you on that day, they moved you off the stage, but certainly failed to protect you on that day and see somebody on the rooftop.

00:11:49.220 And then beyond that, you determine that you are satisfied with the investigation and you allow lies to come out about the investigation or lies to remain about the investigation, saying that the person who allegedly fired the shots had no social media background.

00:12:05.160 And then you withhold information from the public.

00:12:08.980 We only have two options to consider.

00:12:10.720 The first thing is that the entire thing was staged and Trump was involved.

00:12:15.080 Trump knew it was going to happen and he allowed the entire assassination attempt to take place,

00:12:22.260 thereby thrusting him into this category where all of us went, oh, there must have been a reason that God saved him.

00:12:29.060 I'm not inclined to believe that option.

00:12:31.300 OK, the second option is that it was a real assassination attempt.

00:12:36.720 It actually had nothing to do with the person that it was blamed on.

00:12:40.100 and Trump did escape with his life

00:12:44.060 and it was a warning.

00:12:45.880 Do not ever do,

00:12:48.320 well, you know, whatever it is,

00:12:50.000 like a gangster sort of warning.

00:12:51.480 And I am inclined to believe

00:12:53.100 that that is what happened.

00:12:54.920 This would completely transform Trump.

00:12:56.760 It would transform,

00:12:57.800 it would make him obey.

00:12:59.120 It's like a gangster.

00:13:02.520 Basically, you take money from a gangster,

00:13:04.220 you take hundreds of millions of dollars

00:13:05.200 from a gangster,

00:13:05.740 they fire a warning shot,

00:13:07.300 maybe because, you know,

00:13:09.400 you willy-nilly said in front of Charlie Kirk and Andrew Colvett that you were going to take

00:13:13.480 somebody's money and then F them over, not knowing that that information got back to some people.

00:13:19.820 And you escaped with your life. And after that, you just did whatever these people said.

00:13:24.580 I'm just thinking here because I believe Tucker is telling the truth. And Dan's entire face and

00:13:30.680 demeanor and panic and yelling and threatening to fight signals to me that Tucker is telling

00:13:36.020 with truth, that Tucker told him on the phone that it was Trump himself that shut down this

00:13:41.920 investigation. OK, that is what is being reflected to me in the worst poker face that I've ever seen

00:13:48.160 in Dan Bongino. He can't even think rationally. He's just angry and wants to fight because he's

00:13:52.780 been exposed. OK. If that version of events is true, if Trump survived an assassination attempt

00:14:01.520 And then the gangsters came to him and said, you do whatever we say now.

00:14:06.680 Well, that could bring up bring us to a sort of logical explanation as to Trump's behavior thereafter, because I believe that Trump betrayed Charlie Kirk by a similar lack of investigation into who killed Charlie Kirk.

00:14:21.480 He betrayed himself and he betrayed Charlie Kirk. And if the same people were involved in both, which I think there is an indication, I think many of us suspect that the same people could be involved in both, then you could see how easily that might keep Trump in line.

00:14:37.640 because I think Trump is very vain

00:14:39.300 and even though he is old,

00:14:41.320 he is not trying to be a hero

00:14:42.580 and his option is we'll keep you alive

00:14:45.320 and we'll make you so rich

00:14:48.020 and your family so rich

00:14:49.740 and you'll have land

00:14:50.740 and you'll have your name on buildings forever.

00:14:52.280 Trump's taking that option, right?

00:14:54.420 He would rather take I'll be alive

00:14:56.080 for a couple of more years and very wealthy

00:14:58.040 rather than to sacrifice his life doing the right thing.

00:15:02.160 Him and Charlie had different character.

00:15:04.840 Which brings us to a rather explosive piece

00:15:07.520 that was published in the New York Times yesterday.

00:15:09.580 This was also trending.

00:15:11.420 This is inside the White House freakout

00:15:14.840 over the Epstein files.

00:15:16.160 Now, I am not a normal consumer of the New York Times,

00:15:19.760 obviously, I don't really read much of the media anymore

00:15:23.420 because of how many lies I've been told.

00:15:25.800 But this piece, it was very obvious

00:15:27.920 that it was well-sourced.

00:15:29.420 And I'll get into my opinion,

00:15:31.440 which is that Dan Bongino was one of the sources,

00:15:33.280 and I'll tell you why I think that in a bit.

00:15:35.060 But revealed in this piece

00:15:36.180 was a relevant portion about Charlie Kirk.

00:15:39.540 In summation, it's about how Trump really did not want

00:15:43.760 the Epstein files to be investigated.

00:15:45.720 Now, there are two takes on this.

00:15:46.960 Some people think that it is because he's in them.

00:15:48.780 I don't doubt that Trump had some sort of a business

00:15:50.480 relationship with Epstein.

00:15:51.660 It makes perfect sense to me when you understand

00:15:53.600 Epstein's business model, right?

00:15:55.360 What did Epstein do?

00:15:56.560 He was involved in a trafficking ring.

00:15:58.480 He trafficked weapons.

00:15:59.760 He trafficked people. 0.73

00:16:00.740 He did it on behalf of the state of Israel. 0.93

00:16:03.180 We have another Israel theme.

00:16:04.820 Charlie Kirk, I'm turning away from Israel.

00:16:06.980 Donald Trump, I'm going to screw over Miriam Adelson.

00:16:09.420 Shortly thereafter, an assassination attempt happens, okay?

00:16:12.420 And now we have Trump in a full panic at the White House over the Epstein files

00:16:18.160 and him having to do anything to shut down that investigation.

00:16:21.920 So we learn that just in the midst of Charlie's SAS, the Student Action Summit,

00:16:29.780 where we have been telling you over and over again, according to our timeline,

00:16:33.620 It seems to us that after Tucker took the stage at SAS, Tucker Carlson took the stage at SAS,

00:16:39.140 instructions went out to kill Charlie Kirk. That's just what the timeline tells us.

00:16:43.320 Like, if we're just looking at it like a story, things got weird after Tucker hit the stage. We

00:16:48.780 have said this from the very beginning since we mapped out this timeline. Well, it turns out

00:16:52.280 Tucker spoke on July 11th, and on July 12th, Charlie received a phone call from the president.

00:16:58.780 Here's what the New York Times article tells us.

00:17:00.900 It reads, quote,

00:17:02.080 On July 12th, the president took to Truth Social

00:17:04.620 to defend Pam Bondi against criticism

00:17:07.100 and to urge his boys and gals

00:17:09.200 to stop wasting time and energy on Jeffrey Epstein,

00:17:12.600 somebody that nobody cares about.

00:17:14.680 Trump told aides that he was very unhappy

00:17:16.320 with some of his most influential supporters,

00:17:18.760 including Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, and Megyn Kelly,

00:17:21.980 all of whom were publicly urging

00:17:23.620 the administration to come clean.

00:17:25.820 Kirk had held a Turning Point USA event the previous day.

00:17:28.780 that turned into an Epstein grievance fest

00:17:31.400 with one speaker after another bashing Bondi

00:17:34.380 over her handling of the situation.

00:17:36.360 Trump had called Kirk and scolded him.

00:17:40.340 Okay, a couple of things happening here.

00:17:44.200 Why would Donald Trump, the president of the United States,

00:17:48.020 call Charlie Kirk to scold him 0.96

00:17:50.640 because people on stage are calling out a child rapist? 0.57

00:17:57.460 Make it make sense.

00:17:58.780 I'm open to other ideas.

00:18:01.580 I don't want to be a conspiracy.

00:18:02.680 Make that make sense.

00:18:05.040 There was mass panic.

00:18:05.960 We have covered this.

00:18:06.840 Charlie lost millions and millions of dollars on stage

00:18:09.500 from his pro-Israel donors

00:18:10.960 over Tucker calling out Epstein.

00:18:13.980 Megyn Kelly talked about Epstein.

00:18:15.940 So this is perfectly tracking

00:18:17.100 with what we know went down.

00:18:19.080 And Charlie held the line.

00:18:21.600 By and large, Charlie held the line.

00:18:23.320 They wanted him to cancel Tucker.

00:18:25.660 They were angry that, in particular,

00:18:28.780 that he had, Tucker Carlson had asked where Bill Ackman's money comes from. It's kind of like one

00:18:34.220 of those Epstein-esque questions where it's like, people get really rich when you start looking into

00:18:38.340 it. It doesn't really make sense where their money is coming from. There was massed Zionist panic.

00:18:42.640 Again, we have the theme of Israel. So let's plot that on our timeline because I remembered something 0.63

00:18:50.920 that's bothering me. Okay. July 11th to July 13th, 2025. We know that that's the Student Action

00:19:00.000 Summit, Turning Point USA Student Action Summit in Tampa Bay, Florida. Charlie's first speech

00:19:04.780 is at 4 p.m. On Friday, his last speech concludes at 1 10 p.m. on Sunday. Okay. July 11th is the day

00:19:11.840 that Tucker Carlson delivered that speech. Charlie tells him to go max. Despite the fact that donors

00:19:17.220 are freaking out, he tells him to go, Max, okay? He calls out Jeffrey Epstein. He says that the

00:19:23.240 people who serve in foreign armies should be stripped of their citizenship, and he muses

00:19:27.140 about where Bill Ackman's wealth comes from. On July 12th, according to the New York Times,

00:19:31.060 President Trump calls Charlie Kirk angrily, and he scolds him about sass, calling it an Epstein

00:19:36.140 grievance fest. What does this have to do with you, Trump? What does this have to do with you?

00:19:40.740 Who is telling you to call Charlie and scold him? Now, there's only two options. One,

00:19:45.800 the gangsters that you took money from are telling you to call Charlie and put an end to it because

00:19:51.400 Epstein worked for Israel. Or two, you're in the Epstein file, so there's no in between.

00:19:56.980 You don't just call someone to scold them about bringing up, being aggrieved by a child rapist.

00:20:02.840 Everyone should be aggrieved by a person who harms children. If you're not, we're not on the same team.

00:20:08.380 Okay. This July 14th date, Erica travels aboard a private flight to Long Beach, California.

00:20:16.620 She's got Catherine LoCastro. It's a young woman who works at Turning Point USA, was at one point

00:20:20.460 Mikey McCoy's assistant, Derek Nakerk, who's a bodyguard, Jonathan Barcelo, who is a Marine,

00:20:29.280 and she speaks at James Caddis' Calvary Chapel Church. Now, James Caddis is that icky guy who

00:20:37.260 is egyptian and runs turning point usa faith we need to look into james caddis have received so

00:20:43.140 many emails about him radically pro-israel she speaks out their women's summer of psalm retreat

00:20:48.400 and what was there was something bothering me about this speech forever it's being like this

00:20:54.280 speech is really weird because she says in the speech that this was her sunday church okay we

00:20:59.020 know erica bounces sometimes she's catholic sometimes she's you know jewish sometimes she's

00:21:04.100 Judeo-Christian, and this day she was Calvary Chapel. Okay. But it was bizarre to me because

00:21:10.500 when James Cattis tees up the speech, he goes on about like pro-Israel, pro-Israel. And I was like,

00:21:15.340 there's something really bothering me about this on the timeline. The first and foremost, I realized

00:21:19.100 Erica didn't show up to SAS, which was unusual. Then she gets in a plane. She knows her husband

00:21:25.440 is being aggrieved. She knows her husband is under pressure from Israel. She knows her husband is

00:21:30.700 losing millions from Israel. And yet she gets on stage, she gets this pro-Israel intro from

00:21:36.860 James Caddis and then talks about, you know, how there's always war in Israel because Israel is

00:21:42.640 great or whatever, and says that this speech is sort of a call to arms and she's putting it in

00:21:48.600 the context of women and dating and whatever. I'll let you take a little listen to this portion of

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00:22:23.720 travel well and interestingly enough in the history of israel as many of you guys know

00:22:30.440 because i know you guys go to a biblically based church so you understand this that the record of

00:22:36.540 israel is that there is constant invasion and warfare in the promised land because of this the

00:22:43.600 land rarely has a chance to flourish uninterrupted and every so often when a king rises up you know

00:22:51.860 they unify their people they fend off the enemies and for a brief moment the people can finally

00:22:57.520 enjoy peace and it's not the peace that their military brings it's the only type of peace that

00:23:03.740 that God can grant true true peace where there's lasting prosperity and the people can flourish

00:23:09.820 and so the theme of Psalm 144 is this praise and prayer to God because of who he is not just what

00:23:17.680 he gives. So again, this psalm is, it's a battle song. It's a call to arms, but it's also a call

00:23:25.640 to trust and it's a call to worship and it's a call to prepare. Okay. Call to arms, call to

00:23:34.000 worship, call to trust, call to understand that there's conflict in Israel at all times. And this

00:23:38.000 is like, you know, post-genocide. So I don't love that, but there was still something that was

00:23:41.260 gnawing at me beyond the fact that, like I said, James Caddis is this like Egyptian pastor that's

00:23:45.740 like radically pro-israel that she does a lot of work with um and he's he's very involved in

00:23:49.860 starting point usa this is literally his prager you video i'm an egyptian pastor who supports

00:23:53.140 israel and finally it dawned on me okay i'm gonna explain it to you next up on our timeline

00:23:59.060 so she gives this speech irrespective of what her husband's literally going through at this exact

00:24:05.000 same time donors pulling out yelling at him as soon as he gets off stage he's telling tucker to

00:24:09.480 go max anyways the president is calling him this is his wife she knows this is all going on okay

00:24:13.500 if anybody's beefing with my husband, I'm the enemy. I'm with my husband 100%. There's no

00:24:20.880 halfway with that. I'm not going to say something cute to you. I'm going to be off the Israel train

00:24:24.860 immediately. Right after this, on July 18th, that's when the request goes in for UVU. We still

00:24:31.380 don't know who submitted that request. I told you it has literally never happened that you instantly

00:24:35.920 get a spot, the first spot of a semester tour. There's such a long waiting list to have Charlie

00:24:42.060 go speak at their schools, but they suddenly made one. It's this July 20th thing that it

00:24:48.320 suddenly dawned on me what was bothering me about Erica being introduced pro-Israel and being pro-Israel

00:24:54.820 on stage in the midst of everything Charlie was going through. July 20th-ish, Charlie vacationed

00:25:01.720 in Maine for a couple of weeks, okay? So let's just say from July 20th to July 30th, he went

00:25:07.980 off radar. And this is when Mikey McCoy and Elizabeth McCoy joined them for the first time

00:25:13.400 on vacation. And they capture all these images that we're then going to see as soon as Charlie's

00:25:16.460 assassinated. These images of him walking with Erica, like, you know, just kind of, oh, this is

00:25:20.380 a happy couple. And then right after, in the midst of this, the same two weeks, Y-Refi comes in as 0.70

00:25:26.960 the number one sponsor for Charlie Kirk's fall tour. This is a total Israel-coded company. And 0.62

00:25:32.720 it was weird because they had already signed a contract from January through December for all

00:25:37.660 their events, but now they doubled down. What catalyzed that like sudden addendum to their

00:25:42.740 contract? Like, yes, we want more. We're going to come in for this speaking tour that you're

00:25:48.520 now going to do. And the first one is going to be at UVU. And me, the CEO, is going to travel with

00:25:53.160 you at this event. OK, that seems a bit weird. And it dawned on me. I totally forgot something.

00:26:00.520 OK, and I'm just going to have to ask Tucker for forgiveness for sharing this because I knew that

00:26:05.440 there was something bothering me about this Maine vacation. I had a baby and I think I blacked out

00:26:12.180 after Charlie's assassination and didn't remember that I went up to Maine too. I went up to Maine

00:26:18.060 with my husband in July. Okay. My son was born on May 1st. We were off air. And then the first

00:26:23.940 thing I did was I went with my newborn, Roman, and my husband up to Maine to do Tucker's show.

00:26:31.060 and I did an interview and I genuinely forgot about this.

00:26:36.740 Like I genuinely forgot about this

00:26:39.000 and we went in on the topic of Israel.

00:26:42.520 I'm just going to show you a little 10 second clip here

00:26:45.200 so you can get an idea of what I'm talking about.

00:26:47.680 Since the 80s, Jeffrey Epstein has been working for Israel.

00:26:50.920 I don't know how I know that and Trump and Pam Bondi don't,

00:26:53.700 but they got to bring me in.

00:26:54.540 Like I might have some evidence here, right?

00:26:56.300 It's like, so it's, we're getting to a point now.

00:26:58.840 You're going to have tough confirmation hearings.

00:27:00.400 I mean, I just want them to say F you.

00:27:03.400 Like, seriously, that would feel better at this point

00:27:06.100 if they just came out and said, 0.64

00:27:07.700 F you, na-na-na-na-boo-boo, you can't touch us. 0.53

00:27:10.640 We rule over you, ha-ha. 1.00

00:27:12.340 That would feel at least authentic,

00:27:14.580 going back to the Taylor Lahrens thing, you know?

00:27:16.600 I'd be like, I really don't like that,

00:27:18.940 but at least it's authentic

00:27:20.080 and I know you mean it and it's true.

00:27:24.160 All totally fair.

00:27:26.180 Does any of, I mean,

00:27:27.580 to the extent that we can project forward and guess,

00:27:30.380 Does any of this come out?

00:27:32.280 I mean, to a greater extent than it has.

00:27:34.220 I mean, is there ever like a public resolution of this story? 0.90

00:27:36.900 No, because Israel's controlling our government. 0.93

00:27:38.980 So no, the answer is no.

00:27:40.140 Trump is powerless against him.

00:27:41.460 We haven't had, I don't think we've been a sovereign nation

00:27:43.740 since they shot JFK.

00:27:44.960 And when I say they, people online say,

00:27:47.140 what do you mean by they?

00:27:48.820 I'm talking about Israel. 1.00

00:27:49.720 I don't want you guys to like, you know, 0.99

00:27:51.020 I'm talking about Israel.

00:27:52.660 So like, let's stop making that a taboo subject

00:27:54.460 because they've gone mask down.

00:27:56.260 Everything they're doing is demonic.

00:27:57.260 I want nothing to do with it. 0.99

00:27:58.080 I will never support Israel into the future after what they've done to these children, 0.93

00:28:01.280 the starvation campaign. I don't care. 0.98

00:28:04.980 I promise you, I forgot that. I forgot that I had this. I forgot that I went up to Maine

00:28:09.160 until I was looking at this Erica speech. And I was like, I know what is bothering me about

00:28:12.700 the speech. What's bothering me about the speech is that when I got off air with Tucker,

00:28:16.940 obviously, you just have chatter, like just chatter in the air, like about everything you

00:28:22.360 just discussed and what's happening and everything we said there. We're talking about Epstein.

00:28:26.340 I mean, and Tucker said to me, and I'm obviously, I'm not going to get this verbatim, but he was

00:28:33.940 like, yeah, he talked about a SaaS speech. And he just said, they're like, you know, taking money

00:28:39.080 from Charlie because of this whole speech. And I was like, yeah, you know, Charlie's kind of

00:28:43.400 coming over to our side. He's really had an awakening about this. It's crazy that I forgot

00:28:47.860 this. But it's the second part of what he said to me. He said, I just had dinner with him and Erica.

00:28:52.540 They were just here.

00:28:53.520 I think he said like last night.

00:28:55.080 I kid you not.

00:28:56.000 It was, they were just there in Maine having dinner with Tucker.

00:28:59.960 I remember this.

00:29:01.300 I am 1000% certain.

00:29:03.620 Days within me, it was like Charlie was there and then I was there.

00:29:07.080 And he had dinner with Erica and he said something, which is the reason why I was happy when they

00:29:13.380 announced that Erica was going to be CEO because before we could have ever known that Charlie

00:29:18.700 was going to be assassinated, as we were sitting here in Maine talking about Israel and Epstein

00:29:21.920 and what the pressure that Charlie was under, Tucker was like, I absolutely love Erica. He said

00:29:27.340 this publicly a thousand times, so I'm not revealing anything here. And he was like,

00:29:31.120 she is like hardcore on the anti-Israel train. And that she had gone in on dinner about everything

00:29:39.500 and that, you know, this is who Erica was. And I was like, oh, wow, like I actually never got

00:29:44.360 to spend that kind of time with her. Like I know Charlie's coming to the other side, but I never

00:29:47.160 really speak to Erica like that. And they had had this dinner in the midst of all of this sass stuff 0.83

00:29:51.240 and I happened to be in Maine. And when I look at that and I plot that on the timeline, it convinces

00:29:57.100 me that Erica is a psychopath. Genuinely convinces me that Erica is a psychopath because, and please

00:30:01.900 Tucker, forgive me. I had to share that. I know you like her. I know you're a fan of Erica. I know

00:30:07.300 we have different opinions, different perspectives, but this doesn't make sense. This does not make

00:30:13.100 sense that Erica gets on stage and is pro-Israel, blinks and is at dinner and is anti-Israel,

00:30:20.220 more anti-Israel than Tucker. I mean, then Charlie, as we're talking about all this Epstein 0.66

00:30:24.760 stuff and Charlie's under pressure. And then as soon as Charlie passes away, she's up on stage

00:30:29.140 with Barry Weiss saying anybody who doesn't support Israel has brain rot. That's a psychopath. 1.00

00:30:34.320 That is somebody who can be someone else in every room. And we have told this story over and over 0.92

00:30:40.200 again about Erica. She literally just commutes her entire personality depending on who she's 1.00

00:30:44.700 in front of. Like there is no personality. It's who is the audience. I'm a Catholic if I'm in

00:30:50.260 the back of a church and I'm with this donor who's got a lot of money and Stacey taps on their

00:30:55.680 shoulder. And I share how Charlie was about to become Catholic. And then the woman, as I shared

00:31:01.520 with you guys, gets on a plane, brings back a relic of St. Michael because Erica's so hardcore 0.81

00:31:07.060 Catholic. And then she blinks and she instructs Andrew Colvett to deny what I said about Charlie

00:31:14.060 and the Catholic Church. Like literally the next week, she okays Alex Clark coming out and saying

00:31:20.120 I'm a liar. Erica's a psychopath. This is like, it just dawned on me. She was playing this game 1.00

00:31:27.060 while Charlie was alive. And if I didn't do this timeline, if I didn't remember that I was in Maine

00:31:31.760 having this casual conversation when everybody was friends and Charlie was alive and Charlie was

00:31:36.760 under a lot of pressure, I probably would not have reflected on this little tidbit that proves 0.72

00:31:44.960 that Erica's a psychopath. She wasn't a grieving widow in August and July, okay? She wasn't a

00:31:51.760 grieving widow. She was a manipulative psychopath who puts on a different outfit, a different 1.00

00:31:58.500 costume, depending on what play she has to put on, okay? That's just like an established fact. 0.99

00:32:06.760 That Erica is, she has demonstrated over and over again 0.99

00:32:10.700 the attributes of a psychopath. 0.97

00:32:13.480 I'm with Tucker, I'm anti-Israel. 0.94

00:32:17.100 I'm with Barry Weiss, 0.99

00:32:18.620 people who don't support Israel have brain rot. 0.97

00:32:21.300 I'm with an Egyptian pastor, I love Israel. 0.97

00:32:24.040 There's conflict here because of a call to arms.

00:32:27.000 That's not normal.

00:32:29.900 How weird if you had learned

00:32:31.580 that after doing this podcast,

00:32:33.800 I was just yucking it up with Ben Shapiro.

00:32:36.080 talking about how much love is yarmulke growing.

00:32:38.880 You'd be like, that's weird.

00:32:40.380 And oh, I was like, oh gosh, 1.00

00:32:41.960 these like terrible Palestinians. 1.00

00:32:43.720 They don't have a right to any land. 1.00

00:32:45.040 Who are they? 0.85

00:32:45.620 They don't even exist. 1.00

00:32:46.440 Palestine doesn't exist. 0.99

00:32:47.500 That would register to you that I was a psychopath

00:32:51.200 because it's hard to do that.

00:32:52.780 It's hard to perform in front of people.

00:32:54.720 I don't understand genuinely, genuinely

00:32:57.920 how Tucker can like her.

00:33:01.540 I don't.

00:33:02.680 I don't.

00:33:03.220 And maybe it's because he is usually off on a boat fishing, doesn't watch a lot of podcasts,

00:33:08.780 highly doubt that he is watching the timeline and the conflicting Erika's.

00:33:14.140 He does it all the time.

00:33:15.600 She's graduated school.

00:33:16.880 She's not graduated school.

00:33:17.780 Everything she says is in conflict with the thing that she said yesterday because there

00:33:21.600 is no personality.

00:33:23.780 Elizabeth Lane clocked her correctly. 1.00

00:33:25.760 She is whatever she needs to be on her way to empowerment. 1.00

00:33:31.260 Right.

00:33:33.220 She was not a grieving widow, so I'm going to have to politely request that you already

00:33:38.500 shut up in trying to defend why it would be that she was being two different people within

00:33:46.660 one week when she should have just been anti because of how her husband was being treated

00:33:51.760 behind the scenes, okay?

00:33:54.380 Just got to get that off my chest.

00:33:56.960 What follows that is August 5th to 6th, the Hamptons retreat.

00:34:00.740 I mean, this timeline's crazy to look at to me now. Crazy. Hampton's retreat intervention, the influencer sponsored by Bill Ackman, who just was mentioned on stage about the Epstein stuff, not about the Epstein stuff, pardon me, but in relation to him asking questions, Tucker asking questions about Israel and where certain money's coming from.

00:34:20.100 He brings up Bill Ackman, his wealth.

00:34:22.140 This also caused panic on the back end.

00:34:23.800 This is Charlie Summit that Charlie himself described as an intervention that Erica was

00:34:28.400 present at, but she would allow people to lie.

00:34:31.020 Bibi calls him, offers to take Turning Point to the next level in exchange for what we

00:34:35.520 still don't know.

00:34:36.260 But Charlie declines.

00:34:37.920 Charlie says no to Bibi.

00:34:40.280 Trump, I believe, said yes.

00:34:42.720 Trump said yes.

00:34:44.160 Charlie said no.

00:34:45.240 My opinion, I'm sticking to it, especially after reading that Epstein piece.

00:34:49.520 especially after what Tucker has revealed about Butler. 0.94

00:34:53.260 This is all Israel coded. 1.00

00:34:55.840 It makes sense. 1.00

00:34:56.620 It is in our face.

00:34:57.680 The puzzle has been coming together forever.

00:34:59.860 It's the very first thing they lied about 0.83

00:35:01.320 was to protect Israel. 1.00

00:35:02.940 No one would have cared

00:35:03.860 if his opinion was shifting on Israel 0.90

00:35:05.260 because it could just be, that's allowed.

00:35:07.940 But all the lies that were told about it,

00:35:11.140 yeah, that means it's a clue.

00:35:13.640 Then August 15th, Erica goes to the Aspen investor retreat,

00:35:19.220 but she doesn't actually go to the meeting even though she's, I guess, going to be CEO or whatever.

00:35:25.160 And Charlie disappoints Erica a couple of weeks before he dies, changing his mind on everything

00:35:28.200 he's ever said, every position he's ever held about women. That's not right, okay? That timeline

00:35:35.500 is not right. We're already at 36 minutes. I haven't even gotten to telling you about the

00:35:40.020 FOIA response. You know, Dom, let's take a quick break here. We'll go to ads and then we'll come

00:35:44.400 back and discuss Bradley Hansel and this bizarre response that we got back. We'll be right back.

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00:39:08.880 I see Marcia in the comments here. 0.99

00:39:11.140 She says, Erica is not a psychopath. 1.00

00:39:12.800 She is a sociopath.

00:39:13.940 I strongly push back on that 0.99

00:39:15.640 because a sociopath is able to relate to people socially, okay?

00:39:20.800 They wouldn't have made the same mistakes

00:39:23.060 that Erica has made.

00:39:24.340 And this is why her press has been a disaster 0.96

00:39:26.140 because just as Elizabeth Lane spelled out

00:39:29.060 when she wrote that really long tweet

00:39:31.000 about what makes people uncomfortable

00:39:32.300 is that she doesn't know,

00:39:34.840 her face doesn't know how to match the expressions,

00:39:37.620 the feelings that she's having.

00:39:39.140 She doesn't know how to behave normally. 1.00

00:39:42.560 A sociopath can do that. 0.99

00:39:43.640 They can like, you know, emulate humanity.

00:39:47.280 They would know like maybe six days

00:39:49.360 after your husband gets shot in the neck,

00:39:50.740 you shouldn't be able to jump on a Zoom call.

00:39:52.600 You don't have to have guidance or PR

00:39:54.360 to tell you that that's not normal.

00:39:55.940 Beyond that, she was in the office immediately.

00:39:58.260 Within two days,

00:40:00.340 Erica was back in the office 0.61

00:40:01.640 walking around bringing her kids there. 1.00

00:40:03.540 That's a psychopath. 0.99

00:40:04.800 To be able to just like 0.92

00:40:05.440 float between emotions

00:40:06.660 but also to not understand human emotions.

00:40:09.520 In every room,

00:40:10.620 Erica is someone different.

00:40:11.780 The ability to lie to my face 0.95

00:40:14.240 in the way that she lied to my face

00:40:16.220 about saying that Andrew Colbett went rogue.

00:40:19.740 Me discovering this like

00:40:21.220 random conversation

00:40:22.380 that I had with Tucker,

00:40:23.380 remembering this random conversation,

00:40:25.160 like genuinely my little sister,

00:40:26.380 she told me obviously what I was not eating I was not sleeping after Charlie got killed and then I

00:40:32.160 was like almost tricking myself into believing that he might be alive like going like genuinely

00:40:36.480 going through every stage including bargaining and thinking he was actually being held somewhere

00:40:41.540 and maybe in like protection because Trump would not let this happen whatever and my sister said

00:40:46.560 to me she's like when you experience something like this you know somebody that you know someone

00:40:51.720 that you're close to dying in the way that they died like it damages your brain like you're not

00:40:56.060 even I can't remember certain things that happened right after. And I totally forgot that I went to

00:41:02.720 Maine. Like I have been doing this timeline forever. I've been wondering, like trying to

00:41:06.000 figure out like, oh, when were they in Maine? When were they in Maine? And then suddenly it

00:41:08.140 dawned on me because you were in Maine. You were in Maine and you just like I promise you, Tucker

00:41:13.220 must have said, I just had your like the night before with Charlie and Erica or two nights before

00:41:18.300 Charlie and Erica. I just came in. I might have even like texted Charlie to see if he was still

00:41:23.160 in Maine. I have to check. And it just dawned on me that that's what is weird. Erica was anti-Israel.

00:41:30.280 And that is the reason why I was relieved. Because I instantly thought things were weird 0.97

00:41:35.180 and that other people were involved in his assassination. Didn't think his wife.

00:41:39.480 But I was like, great, at least Erica will be skeptical of these people. And this girl was

00:41:43.000 like, hey, Barry Weiss. Hey, Ben, you want to open at AmFest? We're going big. We're going

00:41:49.060 into a deeper partnership with International Fellowship of Christian and Jews. The company,

00:41:55.080 we blinked and the company turned into APAC under Erica's stewardship.

00:41:59.660 And she was not under duress. She's not under duress. She's operating behind the scenes and

00:42:05.460 calling all the shots. So I just need to express again that I truly believe she's a psychopath. 0.99

00:42:10.000 I truly believe that the signs were there leading up to Charlie's assassination before she was a 0.70

00:42:16.700 widow. Moving on to Bradley Hansel, okay? So just to remind you, he is Trump's appointed

00:42:22.120 Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security, one of the Pentagon's top intelligence

00:42:27.780 officials responsible for overseeing defense intelligence and security matters all across

00:42:32.940 the DOD, okay? We have been asking this question, what exactly was he doing at Fort Huachuca in

00:42:38.520 September, just before Charlie's assassination? Now, Fort Huachuca is not just some army base,

00:42:43.640 It is a major hub for military intelligence. Cyber operations could make sense that he's there, obviously. Networks and intelligence surveillance reconnaissance. And we were able to determine that he was on this multi-leg trip that revolved around Fort Huachuca.

00:43:00.300 But it just raises a lot of questions about who he was meeting with, right, on these dates

00:43:06.080 that we were interested in because of the meeting that Mitch Snow stumbled upon, which

00:43:11.660 we have proved.

00:43:12.360 He stumbled upon a meeting.

00:43:13.500 We cannot yet definitively state that he saw who he saw.

00:43:18.000 He believes he saw Brian Harpole.

00:43:19.900 We have not seen any evidence to the contrary, despite openly and kindly reaching out to

00:43:25.420 Brian Harpole asking for that information.

00:43:27.780 What we got was a lawsuit, OK?

00:43:29.800 Anyways, this is Bradley Hansel's itinerary

00:43:31.940 for you guys, so that you guys tracking this

00:43:33.680 can take a look and to see where he went.

00:43:36.260 He went from Joint Base Andrews in Maryland,

00:43:39.440 obviously that's where we're outside of DC.

00:43:41.480 And then he flew to Colorado Springs.

00:43:44.240 Then he went from Colorado Springs

00:43:46.160 and flew to Tucson, Arizona,

00:43:51.360 the Air Force Base at Davis Mountain.

00:43:53.920 And then he flew from Tucson to Fort Huachuca

00:43:57.920 on a most crucial date, September 8th, okay?

00:44:04.660 So this raises two obvious questions.

00:44:06.360 Why the stop, the brief stop in Tucson

00:44:08.620 when Fort Huachuca is just like 50 miles away

00:44:11.940 from Tucson, by the way?

00:44:13.660 Who did he pick up?

00:44:14.520 That's a pickup, right?

00:44:15.480 That's, I would assume that's a pickup.

00:44:16.700 Who did Bradley Hansel pick up

00:44:18.300 to continue to Fort Huachuca on September 8th?

00:44:21.840 The very next day on the 9th,

00:44:23.420 that's the day where that meeting allegedly concluded.

00:44:27.920 that Mitch Snow saw, that same plane then flies from Fort Huachuca to El Paso and arrives at 1.20

00:44:35.740 p.m. local, remains on the ground for four hours and 10 minutes, and then it returns back to

00:44:41.020 Joint Base Andrews just outside of D.C. Who did he drop off in Texas? That's another question,

00:44:48.140 right? These are registering to me, like pick up and drop off. Maybe he's landing for a meeting.

00:44:51.800 who's in those meetings. Now, the timing of this makes Fort Huachuca stand out as the center of

00:44:58.180 the trip, for one, because Bradley Hansel remained on the ground the longest there for 19 hours.

00:45:04.020 That's the longest stop on his trip. He opted to stay overnight at Fort Huachuca before departing

00:45:09.560 the next day for El Paso. He did a quick little 20-minute helicopter tour of the border on that

00:45:14.180 morning as well before he departed for El Paso. What was he doing there on the 8th? What was he

00:45:21.020 doing there on the morning of the 9th. For comparison, when I say that was a very long

00:45:24.740 stay there relative to the rest of his trip, in Tucson and El Paso, he was only on the ground for

00:45:31.360 four hours, okay? Four-hour ground stop, and then he's on, for a very long time, he's at Fort Huachuca.

00:45:39.340 Colorado Springs was the second longest overnight stop. That was 16 hours, okay?

00:45:44.480 Also, of course, September 8th is significant because it's the day that Mitch Snow is convinced

00:45:49.100 that he saw Erica Kirk at Fort Huachuca leaving a hotel.

00:45:52.300 Okay, well, what hotel did Bradley Hansel stay at

00:45:54.700 on Fort Huachuca on the 8th?

00:45:56.720 That's interesting.

00:45:58.200 We'd like to know.

00:45:59.200 So we decided to file an FOIA request for his travel logs.

00:46:04.000 That's the beauty of everything being paid for

00:46:07.020 by the tax dollars is that we have this ability

00:46:09.260 to file an FOIA request, okay?

00:46:11.300 Who did he pick up?

00:46:12.400 That's what we wanted to know.

00:46:13.580 Who was on board with Bradley Hansel?

00:46:16.120 And we got a very unusual response.

00:46:18.440 Now, we have been following a lot of these requests, like we're going to be experts by the end of this.

00:46:22.620 And we've heard, hey, you need to make your request more specific or, hey, this department doesn't have your request.

00:46:30.020 This is the first time that we've been told we're number 3,000 on a list and we're not going to be able to get back to you.

00:46:36.100 We don't know when we're going to get back to you.

00:46:37.860 Here's the exact language of the response that we received to figure out who was on this plane with Bradley Hansel from Tucson to Fort Huachuca.

00:46:45.640 He reads, quote,

00:46:46.680 Although we have already begun processing your request,

00:46:49.720 we will not be able to respond

00:46:51.200 within the FOIA's 20-day statutory time period

00:46:54.580 as there are unusual circumstances

00:46:56.680 which impact our ability to quickly process your request.

00:47:00.900 The FOIA defines unusual circumstances

00:47:03.440 as the need to search for and collect records

00:47:06.700 from a facility that's geographically separated

00:47:09.020 from this office, or B,

00:47:11.040 the potential volume of the records

00:47:13.060 responsive to your request,

00:47:14.320 So A and B is not us. C, the need for consultation with one or more other agencies or the Department of War components having a substantial interest in either the determination or the subject matter of the records.

00:47:30.940 OK, let's read that again, because that's going to be us, right? We're not asking for a lot. We're asking for a travel log. Who else is on this plane?

00:47:36.160 So, you know, it's not too big. It's not because of the volume of records. It's not geographically separated from this office.

00:47:41.180 He works for the Department of War

00:47:42.540 and the flight was booked from his office.

00:47:45.340 I've confirmed that, okay?

00:47:47.120 So we're at C of why they can't honor this in 20 days.

00:47:50.240 This would be the logical option C.

00:47:53.000 And I'm gonna read it again.

00:47:54.400 Because of the need for consultation

00:47:56.400 with one or more other agencies

00:47:59.240 or the Department of War components

00:48:01.460 having a substantial interest

00:48:03.100 in either the determination

00:48:04.960 or the subject matter of the records.

00:48:08.000 At least one, if not more, of these scenarios apply.

00:48:10.980 or would likely apply to your request.

00:48:15.020 While this office does handle FYA requests

00:48:17.020 for the OSW, the JS, and other component offices,

00:48:20.040 we do not actually hold their records.

00:48:21.900 Okay, so they're going over the geographic thing.

00:48:23.180 That's not us.

00:48:23.660 We do not hold the record.

00:48:24.560 They do hold these records.

00:48:25.620 It's him.

00:48:26.660 It says then that we are unable to estimate

00:48:28.340 the potential volume of records.

00:48:29.600 Okay, that's not us.

00:48:31.240 Or this last one.

00:48:32.960 Your request has been placed in our complex processing queue

00:48:36.920 and is being worked on

00:48:39.500 based on the order in which the request was received.

00:48:42.740 Our current administrative workload

00:48:44.460 is approximately 3,534 open requests.

00:48:51.620 This is an FOIAFU.

00:48:56.860 An FOIAFU, that's what it is.

00:48:59.040 I didn't know we could file for that.

00:49:00.300 We did, apparently we received it.

00:49:01.480 FOIAFU, Candace.

00:49:03.880 Oh, really?

00:49:05.520 Yeah, we have to talk to some other departments

00:49:07.860 about your request

00:49:08.880 And that could take a while because they have an interest in why you want to know who was on Sam 702 and Bradley's plane.

00:49:16.520 And that just means that we don't have to do the 20 day thing, which is like by law.

00:49:21.980 But then there's this little carve out that says that if we have to communicate to other agencies, like maybe the FBI, Kash Patel, I don't know, Trump, the executive office, we don't we can year number three thousand five hundred and thirty four F.O.I.F.U. Candace.

00:49:36.200 weird first time we've seen it guys i'm happy to report that we are number 3534th in line

00:49:47.000 to never receive a request from the government about who was on that plane to fort huachuca

00:49:55.600 absolutely stunning truly stunning i can't believe we're at 51 minutes guys we're like

00:50:01.200 not even gonna be able to cover everything else like we're we're like it's already late today

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00:52:33.960 that we had pulled a while ago of Erica at the end of the recent leader women's summit event.

00:52:41.260 It's, I guess, women's summit event. Yeah, no worries. Let me know if you can pull it. If not,

00:52:44.940 no big deal. We can always just save it for Monday. But it just further illustrates my point

00:52:47.840 about like her changing face of emotions, like she doesn't know how to emote correctly or why

00:52:52.980 people find her to be strange because she hasn't

00:52:54.860 have any experience with these emotions.

00:52:57.680 And that, it just strikes me

00:52:58.920 as so odd. I'm so bothered

00:53:00.260 by that trip to Maine. And

00:53:02.660 I'm bothered because there was no intent. It was just

00:53:04.780 like people just talking about what was going on,

00:53:07.320 everybody's friends,

00:53:08.840 nothing against Erica. I was like, oh, amazing.

00:53:10.960 Whatever. And that was what was

00:53:12.820 in the back of my head when I was at first relieved because I was 0.56

00:53:14.860 like, she will look into whether or not there was an Israel

00:53:16.740 angle here. And we got the exact opposite

00:53:18.980 thing. Anyway, I want to shout us out.

00:53:21.140 And I want to give a special shout out to my

00:53:22.860 producer Ashley, who worked really hard. I do want to clear up some rumors, though, because

00:53:26.520 some people were alleging that it was a CVS receipt when we showed Larry Loomer's receipt.

00:53:34.200 That is fake news. It's conspiracy. That was a true Loomer receipt. We were happy to have Loomer

00:53:39.900 here, and we're grateful that X picked up the trend and recognized that Larry Loomer was in

00:53:44.160 office. Check this out on X. Loomer confronts Owens on show over Kirk conspiracy theories. We

00:53:49.360 were very happy to be joined by Larry Loomer. She appeared in person, X tells us, on show to debunk

00:53:54.720 her theories, debunk my theories. It also says that Owens mocked Loomer's receipts with a clown

00:53:59.860 emoji and a fake long receipt clip while Loomer called it cringe. That's just, it wasn't fake,

00:54:05.140 it was real. We're just trying to keep track of all of Loomer's receipts because she kind of

00:54:08.440 lets them go and we had time. And so we really thank Larry Loomer for joining us. Top comment

00:54:13.940 from yesterday's episode, by the way, Kaylee said, my day does not feel complete until I hear Candace 0.84

00:54:18.080 hit us with the classic. All right, you guys. I don't know why I always say that. Just feels

00:54:22.580 right. All right, you guys. Is it all right? I don't know, but it is when you're watching this

00:54:27.200 show. This user writes, breaking news, Ivanka just told her dad that the Albanians are two

00:54:33.020 weeks away from having a nuclear bomb. I bet they are. That sounds right to me. That seems like the 0.99

00:54:38.380 next logical step of the story. Because, yeah, if you want the land, then they're just there

00:54:44.360 probably working on a nuke that'll help the narrative I believe her I believe Ivanka she's

00:54:49.880 just she's she had the the aura sound behind her so you know I'm I'm I'm team I'm team Ivanka oh

00:54:56.720 great my producers were able to pull the Erica clip this is like the end of her speech when she 0.82

00:55:02.240 got heckled and called the pedophile protector a lot of emotions happening in her face anyway this

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00:56:47.240 it's like a really bad daytime soap opera acting like why was she shaking no one day

00:56:58.300 one day what etches in your soul will be forever in your soul you will take it

00:57:10.740 to dust welcome to the women's leadership summit 1.00

00:57:17.200 That's weird.

00:57:17.900 It's just, it's weird.

00:57:18.740 It's not authentic.

00:57:19.320 It's practiced.

00:57:19.780 It's rehearsed.

00:57:20.140 It's not written by you.

00:57:20.880 It's obvious.

00:57:21.380 This is not how people speak.

00:57:23.120 Just be normal.

00:57:23.900 Stop shaking your head no while you're saying yes.

00:57:27.100 Anyway, we'll send it to comments from today's episode.

00:57:30.480 We're already running over time.

00:57:31.680 It's Friday.

00:57:32.260 I'm completely inappropriate.

00:57:34.280 Tucker, forgive me.

00:57:35.160 I hope you're fine with me sharing that.

00:57:36.580 I just, it literally just came to my head right before we went live.

00:57:38.540 And I was like, this is what bothers me about July.

00:57:40.200 I totally forgot.

00:57:42.340 Erica was anti-Israel in July. 0.62

00:57:45.400 Allegedly.

00:57:46.560 zamit writes this 4th of july let's all remember that it's we the people and not we the elites

00:57:51.920 president trump please resign if you have any dignity left he has no dignity left there's no

00:57:55.920 point um he's just going to do what he's told to do he has no courage forgot the dignity he has no 0.78

00:58:01.780 he he's a coward ali writes tucker recently said tpusa didn't invite him this year it adds to the

00:58:07.500 they took out charlie because he gave tucker a platform and was abandoning israel they had to 0.76

00:58:11.760 keep him for AmFest 2025 because Charlie publicly fought his donors over Tucker.

00:58:16.460 Well, there was no question they were going to, you know, push out Tucker, push out Megan.

00:58:20.440 Like I said, it just has no energy behind it anymore. It's just over. The organization died

00:58:28.780 with Tucker. I mean, died with Charlie. Pardon me. Sarah writes, TPUSA tactics. Come on, Dan.

00:58:34.280 Although you imagine what he had to do or agree to to be able to get back to his podcast. Yeah.

00:58:38.740 it was just weird like he's like an he's just angry he's like yapping and like you're like

00:58:42.840 you're not saying anything of substance you're not debunking tucker and just this tough guy act

00:58:47.260 of like i'm you think i can't beat up tucker like that is so played out that tucker's not

00:58:51.320 gonna fight you like what are you talking about he wears boat shoes and goes fishing he's like a

00:58:54.860 chill guy you don't look cool doing that that's so unbelievably lame tube writes they keep saying

00:59:03.380 charlie and candace weren't friends why then did erica meet cans in such a tight schedule and why

00:59:07.700 Andrew called Candace the very first day and shared so many things. Make it make sense,

00:59:11.580 TPUSA. They can't. They're just trying to delete Charlie's history, Charlie's perspective,

00:59:15.120 Charlie's friendships. They fought viciously to do it. They couldn't sell it. They had a ton of

00:59:19.360 money to put behind this narrative that Charlie and I didn't talk. The Us Magazine article,

00:59:23.060 Charlie was afraid to talk to Candace. What are you, like, we traveled together for years,

00:59:27.040 years. It's afraid to talk to me. Me calling, scared to pick up my calls. Literally,

00:59:33.380 Eric has got his phone published. How many times Candace Owens has called Charlie Kirk?

00:59:37.700 I don't do calls. It's just not my thing. It's just, I don't like, it's just the eee in your

00:59:43.840 ear. You know what I'm talking about? I also don't like AirPods for the same reason. I just feel

00:59:47.760 like it's putting stuff in my brain. So I just don't do calls. I just text and I never answer

00:59:54.080 my text messages. I'm terrible at that. It's just not, I'm not a phone communicator. It's not my

00:59:59.640 thing. Coach E writes, when TPUSA dropped the trolling video, they introduced it to a room

01:00:04.240 full of women not us therefore tpusa was trolling women well that's excuse is just not adding up

01:00:09.140 have you heard of the leah files her tpusa audit is legit i have not heard of it um and i wish i

01:00:16.180 could have done an audit of some sort but i try to stay within my skill set i can organize i you know

01:00:21.300 that's why i've got so many kids i could do a timeline i can't be the person that's behind the

01:00:25.180 accounting so um yeah i actually should go look at some of the videos of people who have been doing

01:00:30.640 that someone's feral gg writes gate kid activated knowing the psyop is half the battle go max christ

01:00:37.820 is king totally agree christ is king truth is winning and they are angry and on the run um i

01:00:45.180 think the i read all of them i just think i skipped one nope i didn't i did not skip one uh lastly

01:00:52.160 francesca writes candace you really francesca writes you really need to investigate why charlie's

01:00:56.860 parents are not speaking out an interview would make sense i fear they have been forced to stand

01:01:00.560 back they were always really private so that didn't strike me as a surprise at all they were

01:01:04.960 fiercely private i mean i only met them a handful of times when they came to a couple of charlie's

01:01:08.500 events it's just not the way they operate uh like i and i don't find that to be suspicious because

01:01:13.900 it kind of it's like my in-laws like they're not like there are people that just aren't wired that

01:01:18.740 way and they would never want to be in like they weren't involved in the face of politics despite

01:01:23.420 how big charlie was and it wouldn't be their natural thing to do so that's my opinion i don't

01:01:29.700 think they were forced to stand back at all. I do wonder what they think about Erica.

01:01:34.940 I'd like to know. If they're watching, maybe I do know that some people in his family do watch

01:01:40.280 and do support. Reach out. Love to talk to you. Keep it all off record. I promise.

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01:01:57.240 more tips. You're making me look bad. If you'd like to support the show, you can head to

01:02:00.800 CandaceOwens.com. I don't know if I'm going to be able to do book club. I'm just like Russia

01:02:04.460 exhausted. I feel like book club people, please don't kill me. Can I move it to Monday? People

01:02:09.400 in book club, is it okay if I move it to Monday? It's like 7.35. I'm so tired. I have no more words.

01:02:17.580 They're going to have to forgive me. I'm going to have to put them in the Tucker basket. Please 0.99

01:02:20.300 forgive me, Tucker. Please forgive me, people in book club because I'm going to have to bump

01:02:25.220 this morning. Can we do Monday? Tucker? I mean, you're not Tucker, you're Skylar. There's no way

01:02:29.140 I can do book club. I think Tucker's in the control room. I'm coming apart on this Friday

01:02:34.180 night. Skylar. Okay. Yeah, but I feel like I probably don't know when that's going to end.

01:02:48.100 So I feel like, can we just do like Monday, make Monday a double? I feel like Monday works because

01:02:52.960 I'm like, my brain is fried right now. I have, I'm just having like a personal phone conversation

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Candace Owens - June 13, 2026

REVEALED! Trump Scolded Charlie Kirk Over Epstein. Butler Narrative Collapses. ｜ Ep 348

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