SNAPPED： Blake Neff Names A Killer. Pam Bondi Gets Fired. ｜ Candace Ep 321
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Summary
Candace is back with an update on the investigation into the death of CIA operative Charlie Dorian Koresh, who was shot and killed on the orders of the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization (JIEDDO) on December 15th, 2011.
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All right, you guys. Happy Thursday. What do I have for you? Well, Pam Bondi has been fired. That's obviously big news. I guess it's good. Probably will be replaced with somebody worse. I don't know. But I'm still wondering how Blake Neff is still employed.
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Blakey Neff, he is my favorite of the shady bunch
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because I just don't know how he does it, right?
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He is just so notably and publicly emotionally immature
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Like, we know how it ends, but Tom's got a Tom,
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that we begin delicately prodding the narrative
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Okay, first and foremost, I wanted to provide you guys with a fun little update,
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because yesterday we told you about decoy boy number two,
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Cash Patel shut down the investigation for an hour and a half.
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And then he was released, and we weren't told much more.
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We revealed to you, and that was obviously in large credit due to Baron Coleman,
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Mitch Snow saw a meeting concluding in Fort Huachuca the day before,
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And I sort of wondered out loud whether or not Daddy Koreshi
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had any connections to Fort Huachuca via his Built app that he co-founded,
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which I am told and now understanding is exactly for mission prep,
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like has the ability to create a real 3D visual walkthrough.
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which door you were going to go through at Timpanogos.
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Now, again, can't say that's what it was used for,
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And he was, in fact, stationed at Fort Huachuca.
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Same family, according to Tor Qureshi's LinkedIn.
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So there is something about a guilty conscience. It causes people to overthink unnecessarily, right? They scheme, they plot, they're trying to fill in holes in a narrative, they're trying to be prepared. They don't really pause to consider that sometimes with too many details or overthinking things and saying too much, you kind of incriminate yourself, right?
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It's unnecessary complexity that is added to an issue.
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What transpires is something that is known as mythomania.
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Definition of that is it is an unusual or pathological tendency to exaggerate or tell
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Perfect example of this overthinking, making things complex.
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When Charlie died, his team, they were thinking too hard.
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They were like, OK, so here's what we're going to do. So people definitely don't think it's you. As soon as he gets shot, you should tweet even before the president of the United States that you're praying for Charlie. That will definitely remove suspicion. If you tweet first, even though you're you're fighting this this massive war everywhere and this isn't your country, if you tweet first, you're praying for Charlie, that will no one will think it was you.
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narrator people uh did in fact find that tweet to be remarkably suspicious and then his team
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uh were overthinking some more and they were like okay here's what we're gonna do uh then the very
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next day we'll get you on fox um where you should passionately deny that you killed him that will
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definitely remove suspicion narrator it most certainly did not remove any suspicion again
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they went a little too complex, right? Similarly, when I sat down with Erica Kirk on December 15th,
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I had a very short list of questions, like I told you, that I was seeking clarity on. I did not,
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you'll recall, back in December, think that Erica was a part of any plot to assassinate her husband,
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that I think some of her actions and movements were strange, sure. But I was being very empirical,
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just following what was in front of me, following the proof that I had, and Erica had not told
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any verifiable lies to the public until right before we met, she publicly told Glenn Beck that
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she had Charlie's phone and he did not text people the night before saying that he was fearful of his
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life. That was kind of, for me, the first, hmm? It was a disastrous PR campaign altogether that week,
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which ended with her alongside Barry Weiss. That was weird to me. My antenna started going up.
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But when I went into that meeting, nonetheless, I had very pure intentions. I just wanted to seek clarity at no point on my podcast prior to that moment had I attacked Erica, nor, and this is perhaps more crucial, nor did I ever question whether or not Charlie wanted her to become the CEO.
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OK, frankly, my thought when they announced her as CEO was that was probably for the public, you know, it's like this.
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Everyone's so emotional. Everyone feels all over the place.
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It was supposed to be this emotional feel good.
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Hey, we're making a public decision. Charlie is gone, but his legacy is going to live on through his wife.
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And I thought that she's probably not really going to be the CEO.
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You know, it's just it's she's kind of just more kind of be the icon.
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and Justin Strife is probably going to be running things behind the scenes.
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So I was very caught off guard and surprised when, during our meeting,
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out of nowhere, they pulled out a piece of paper, which they had printed out,
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and they said, oh, this is a transcript, a transcript of what Charlie said
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when he named Erica, said that he wanted Erica to take over for him
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I was like, I mean, I haven't even talked about this at all on my show.
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And I was surprised because I didn't ask for it.
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But they, for some reason, wanted to clarify that, to put that on record, something that
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So, of course, the opposite thing happened, where for the first time, I thought, is there
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And Erica had previously, before I sat down with her, confirmed that there was a video of this moment, a video of Charlie just weeks before he died, saying that he wanted her to take over the company.
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Stunning. A stunning claim for two reasons right off the bat. One, because Charlie Kirk, on every stage that he was ever on, repeatedly said that women should not aspire to climb the corporate ladder and to become CEOs because that is not fulfilling.
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right he said over and over again that home life was of more substance of more value he said this
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even next to beside erica in front of erica across from erica they together spoke about the mistake
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of women thinking that they could have it all and he was speaking about that to be sure
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in an environment where there were two living parents so even with two living parents charlie
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stated profusely to his audiences that women should not strive toward corporatism, right?
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We all agree. Now suddenly we're being told by Erica that privately and also just a couple of
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weeks before he died, Charlie had completely reversed course. And he did that again in a
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private setting in front of his donors. He just like did a 180 and within kind of the most
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dramatic situation imagined. Like he was saying, if I die, which would reduce
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our children to having just one parent, I would want at that moment my wife to step up and to
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assume the role of CEO. And that's certainly what Erica Kirk told Megyn Kelly on November 24th.
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Take a listen. In August, before all this happened, he had a event where he had some donors at.
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And one of the first questions they asked was, God forbid if something happens to you, what would happen next at Turning Point?
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He said companies, you know, example, Apple, Macintosh.
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will one day, if I'm not around, be vision-led?
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like, you know, Erica will do a great job running it.
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and watching her be the blueprint of, you know,
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But I see now we're curating for this moment of becoming the CEO.
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This investor meeting, which she's referring to, just so you know, took place from August
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So this was a mere three weeks before Charlie died.
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And making matters more interesting was AmFest.
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They decided to make, premiere Charlie saying this, but audio only.
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okay so they stripped the video and used just the audio as erica's walkout music they they used what
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they are alleging is charlie's voice but no video that's a very curious decision because if you do
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in fact have a video of charlie naming his wife to the position of ceo wouldn't that be the most
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powerful footage that you could possibly release to get the public to rally behind her
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everyone's missing him they're missing his voice wouldn't that be like the first thing you did how
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powerful would it been to have a video running and then you see Charlie and he's like, I want my
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wife to be the CEO if I die. Right. And so I'm wondering, what would possibly guide your decision
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to only release the audio? And I'm going to allow you to listen to that audio. And I want you to
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listen carefully to the audio. OK, listen carefully to the audio. Take a listen. A lot of this could
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be done without me. And I believe that. I mean, from the high school department, the college
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department. Let's make Turning Point so big that it can survive beyond just the founder.
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A lot of organizations and groups, as soon as a founder leaves, it just kind of collapses.
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A lot of my job is not always in the day-to-day details. It's very much vision casting,
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very much driving success. But we have a great board, and God forbid, if something happens,
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they'll figure it out. I appoint my wife to run Turning Point USA if something happens to me.
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just sort of a weird ending there no answering the question we have a great board like you know
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they'll figure everything out and then i suddenly i appoint my wife so great boy i appoint my wife
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to do if anything happens to me it seems out of place at the very least we can determine that
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that is clearly an edited audio that's very clearly edited audio so i set about just sort
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of after i met with her reaching out to people that attended that event like trying to figure
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out, okay, who attended this event? Like, what was their memory about this event? And I spoke to a
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total of four people. And I can tell you that three out of the four people, and one was a couple,
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did not remember Charlie saying this. They did not remember Charlie Kirk saying this. And the
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fourth person, or rather a couple, who said that they did remember it, and without giving you guys
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alluding to any further details, they would be considered a conflicted witness because they have
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ties to turning point outside of a donor relationship, okay? So I found that to be
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very compelling. That's not something you forget. It's the first question he's asked. Hey, you're
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31. What happens if you die? You know, what do you want to happen if you die? That does not seem
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true. It doesn't ring true to me, okay? Anyway, so yesterday, Blake Neff, he went to, or maybe it
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wasn't yesterday or the day before yesterday, he went to Arizona State University, and somebody
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asked him a question and really kind of took them to the cleaners, just saying, like, look,
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Turning Point's got some shady connections. Erica used to be in a CIA video. You seem to be
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reversing course on everything that Charlie wanted. And like, what's up with this? What's
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going on here? And Blake Neff was very emotionally emotional, as he always is. And he went on to
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emphatically insist that Charlie desperately wanted Erica to be his successor. I want to take
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a listen to what Blake Neff said back to the student. The reason Erica is front and center
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repeatedly asked, Charlie, we're worried something will
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something could happen to Charlie. And when he was
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like, oh, it'll be fine. Erica will take over for me.
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Even when he was traveling, he was calling her all the time.
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Erica were partners. They were husband and wife in a deep way. Their marriage was incredibly
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admirable. I've seen a lot of marriages. Some of them are good. Some of them are bad. Charlie and
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Erica's was exceptional. They were on the same wavelength. I saw how much that relationship,
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I didn't know Erica as well prior to Charlie's death, but especially in the wake of it,
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I saw how much everything he'd done meant to her and how completely committed she was to fulfilling
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his mission, what he had done in life, that she knew the life I thought I was going to live has
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changed very abruptly, but I am fearlessly going to embrace the new one because I know it's what
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I have to do for my husband and for his legacy. That is the reason she was put front and center.
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And she hasn't really. She's become the CEO of the organization because that is what Charlie wanted,
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and it's because I saw it with all the people who were senior at Turning Point. There wasn't even a
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question that that is what would happen. There was no one forcing this. There was no one
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pressuring it to happen. This is what everyone at Turning Point wanted to happen.
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Yeah, I think the employees would say something else. But said another way,
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Blake is saying that Charlie prioritized his business above his family. That is what he's
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saying, that he often thought about what would happen if he died. And in Charlie's head,
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he wanted his children to be raised by nannies while his wife assumed his position of CEO,
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the most important thing is going to be making sure
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to maybe share the video of Charlie saying that.
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That's like, hey, this could go a very long way.
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Here's what I said beneath the video that he shared on X.
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as his successor a couple of weeks before he died?
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And whoa, did he get back to me with something fierce.
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Some would say he got a little too complex, okay?
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because we know psychopathic predators like yourself
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and normal evidentiary logic has no effect on you.
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You're the kind of person who sees coded messages
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or Tyler Robinson's own family members turning him in.
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Playing the audio at AmFest already was not enough.
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You'll obviously just say it's AI or a hologram
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of any good faith conversation with you months ago.
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brandishing a knife and screaming at people on the subway.
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First and foremost, 33 is in fact a Freemason degree.
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other than the fact that he was signaling to the public.
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to other Freemasons. Secondly, we have addressed the DNA on a rifle. Actually, you guys haven't.
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And I have been clear that it's actually you guys who refuse to tell the public that there
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were also five other sets of DNA found on the rifle. We know it's Tyler Robinson's rifle.
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We've never debated that. What we have said is that there is no evidence that that particular
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rifle was fired. And also, I have to ask the question, why are you bringing up AI? And am I
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hallucinating or does Turning Point regularly share videos of Charlie Kirk all the time?
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So why is this particular one you're worried about people thinking it's AI? They even share
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outdated videos and try to pretend that he's supporting the Iranian war. They're getting
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fact-checked on X because they're sharing outdated videos and misrepresenting Charlie's actual
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beliefs about the Iranian war. But now they're suddenly concerned that if they release one more
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crucial video, people will think it's a hologram or AI or an Israeli actor. Why does that feel more
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like a confession to me? Like they're trying to get ahead of something. Like this might be the
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reason they didn't release it in the first place. And also, was I like under the influence or high
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or was it not Erica, the CEO of Turning Point USA and the team that guaranteed us that they
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were going to release tons of never before seen speeches and videos? They had a whole supply of
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them. Can we run the clock back to 16 days after Charlie was killed and take a listen to them
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telling us that? We need to be able to have people have a show where they can they can ask
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questions. Hey, I'm up against this. What would Charlie say? And we play a clip of what Charlie
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said a month ago, a year ago. We have decades worth of my husband's voice. We have unused
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material from speeches that he's had that no one has heard yet. We have Sunday specials lined up
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to the brim because my husband was so intentional about making sure that there was enough content
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always. He made sure we recorded everything. He would not do a speech unless we could get the
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video and the audio. 100%. So we have speeches that no one's heard of. We have interviews that
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no one's heard of we have stuff from korea and japan that no one's heard of podcast so i mean
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in the words of my husband buckle up because there is a lot of content to be had and we have
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so many amazing things down the pipeline that we are working on currently that will
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why is this not about candace what changed here this is you guys making a promise that you were
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going to release. Charlie, you've got his voice. You've got videos. You've got speeches. You've
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got never before seen everything. He's in Korea. He's with Mikey McCoy. Why is it suddenly that
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this one particular and most crucial video to your narrative, a video that you yourselves
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introduced into the public conscience, absent any pressure, nobody said, hey, we need to know that
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Charlie wanted this thing immediately. What's the story? Did he go and save us at a retreat
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three weeks before he died, we didn't put any pressure on you guys. You just casually mentioned
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and came up with a whole story that you had captured this video of Charlie's, one of his
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dying wishes, because that's a normal question for donors to ask to a 31-year-old man. Hey,
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what happens if you die? Who do you want to take over? Done a ton of donor events with Charlie,
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including ones in Aspen, never heard of his question ever, but I guess things changed.
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They had different concerns. And now I'm asking you guys the question, what changed that me simply
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asking for you to release this footage makes you angry. The mere idea of being asked to release
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this footage makes Blake angry. And to this analogy or accusation that it's because you're
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afraid of a psychopathic predator like me brandishing a knife on the subway, I want to let
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you know I laughed so hard at this ex-user. His name is Sean. His immediate common sense response
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This was common sense is clearly lacking at Turning Point USA. He tweeted this. He said,
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if a maniac was brandishing a knife and screaming at people on the subway because they wanted me to
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send them a video, I should send them the video. Yeah, man. OK, I'll be your brandishing knife
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psycho like common sense here. Fact who's like, no, I'd rather die than show this psycho on the
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subway this video. Like, yeah, here you go. Here's a video. Chill, man. Nobody has to die today.
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here it is is my husband saying he wants me to take over the company show the video to the
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psychopathic dude like okay no one wants to die on the red line i said who wouldn't do it who
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wouldn't show the who wouldn't show the video and then someone replied and said the only person who
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wouldn't show the psychopath the video is the person who doesn't have it okay that's the reality
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that is the reality only the person who doesn't have it would not show him the video and yeah so
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I wanted to make that public demand because that now feels significant. It kind of locks another
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piece of the puzzle here with why Erica's story about her childhood seems to have changed. It's
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dishonest narrative that she was raised with a single mom and like they were just kind of again
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shape-shifting a bit to get the public prepared for this moment or to accept this moment. And
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I'm asking also because I have a trick up my sleeve. As always, I would like to put
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turning point into a position where they share this video.
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I personally think it went something like this.
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Some of the room was like, okay, but like then if we name Erica the CEO,
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like 48 hours later, then people might notice that Charlie,
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you know, all that footage of him for years touring around the world,
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telling women to get married, raise kids if they have a filling life.
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Wouldn't it be weird if she suddenly then takes this position?
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Like people might wonder, hey, was that her plan all along?
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We need to have like audio prepared of Charlie saying he wanted her to take over and we'll tell them that it was just like a totally normal casual donor question that he said like all the time.
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He told us all the time, you know, what happens if you die at 31?
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He was constantly thinking about dying and Erica taking over and then we'll release the audio and then we'll do some PR like PR like, you know, like Netanyahu's team could do this for us.
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We're going to have Erica interviewed and she'll tackle that question head on.
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And a number of them said, ask her, please ask her,
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and now that you're going to be taking over a turning point,
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and balancing family, and what your view is of that.
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I grew up with a mother who is an entrepreneur.
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My parents got divorced when I was very young, when I was five.
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So that does not scare me, being a single mom, if you will, now, and running a company.
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But what this grieving process has taught me is that there is really no blueprint of
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and it's interesting because when you view how pain
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again, it puts in a perspective that this isn't about me,
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this is about the legacy my husband left behind,
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but it's also about how we're fighting the good fight for our country.
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And when it comes to career, I will be fully transparent.
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Charlie essentially plucked me out of the New York City orbit
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and was like, no, I have a healthier way of viewing things
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And I remember thinking, if I would have stayed on that path I was on, I would have lost out
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on some of the most beautiful moments of my life.
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Children, having a husband, being able to create and build something so incredible.
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And it's not because I'm picking up a mantle that I understand and that I know that Charlie has entrusted to me, the team has entrusted to me, the Lord has entrusted to me.
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I mean, so many words used to say nothing to not answer the question she did, you know, what's referred to as the D.C. dip and twirl.
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if they give you a question you don't like just keep talking and hope that people forgot the
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question that was initially asked which is aren't you kind of a hypocrite right aren't you a little
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bit of a hypocrite doing this well there's so much happening there's so much and Charlie and I was in
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New York and let me tell you a funny story about my mom in the third grade no answer because it is
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full and it is utter hypocrisy. And again, it feels to me as though they had sort of prepped this
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and I find it. Am I wrong here? Do you guys agree? It's a little suspicious
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that they love releasing videos, the books, everything of Charlie Kirk. And yet here they
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have on camera, allegedly, his dying wish for Erica to take over, to take over if he dies young
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at the age of 31, which he then happened to do three weeks later and they don't want to release
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They're angry, you brandishing psychopathic subway killer.
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And before I tell you something that's even more suspicious,
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We will do that when we come back from a quick break.
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slash Candice. All right, you guys, let's get into Erica's story regarding her whereabouts
00:31:50.380
on September 10th. Now, we've already established Erica lies and she pivots and she edits and then
00:31:55.440
bunch of people come out to protect her. She's got money. She'll get the PR to come. But I tend
00:32:01.180
to agree, having looked into her background and her story and the manner in which she lies, I tend
00:32:05.840
to agree with the opinion, which was shared by Elizabeth Lane, that Erica has psychopathic
00:32:13.680
tendencies. By the way, Blake, looking back at you, buddy, right? I'm not the one who had an
00:32:18.660
employer that got allegedly shot in front of my face and I didn't think to call 9-1-1. I feel like
00:32:26.240
that's a little psychopathic. I'm just running to the back with Mikey and Mikey calls his wife and
00:32:30.600
you call your mom and no one calls 9-1-1. I feel like that's a little psychopathic. I feel like
00:32:34.280
walking away calmly is like a psychopathic vibes, you know, going into the casket with your chief
00:32:42.400
donor lady. It's a little psychopathic. I don't know. I'm not like an expert. I'm not Sigmund
00:32:47.400
Freud. I'm not into, you know, the Kabbalah and 33rd degree masonry, but that felt to me a little
00:32:55.560
psychopathic. Anyway, regarding Erica's whereabouts on September 10th, I want to be super clear at
00:33:01.580
first that I am not questioning whether or not Erica's mother has an illness. That has never been
00:33:06.640
what I have been investigating. I have said many times. I've known it's been a discussion. I think
00:33:12.480
Erica has even herself talked about her mother's Lyme disease in different settings. The reason
00:33:16.460
why this is even significant is because it's a part of erica's story whether or not she was with
00:33:23.140
her mother as she says on september 10th when she received the news from mikey mccoy that charlie
00:33:28.280
was shot because i cannot ignore my gut feeling that a person that will do that uh you know have
00:33:35.700
the chief fundraiser record you grieving over your husband that they've got some tendencies
00:33:41.580
some tendencies to use emotion to manipulate people.
00:33:47.780
about when I learned after Charlie's assassination,
00:33:52.180
the timing of her post two days prior to Charlie being shot.
00:33:57.560
looking tremendously frail and sick on the 8th,
00:34:00.280
despite the fact that she had not posted her mother in years.
00:34:27.300
especially to post something like that without details.
00:34:37.660
where they're getting an IV and they like put a verse
00:34:41.100
It's like, it's just a cry for attention, right?
00:34:44.060
It's never normal to do that without any details.
00:34:50.220
makes it so that people will just spill in the blanks
00:34:58.880
So we were initially told about Erica's whereabouts
00:35:02.520
or at least I think this was the earliest I can remember,
00:35:05.960
say, and if you find clips of that, please send it to me. I know they were doing the rounds on the
00:35:09.960
news, but I was not watching the news at that time. Erica sat down with the New York Times, as we have
00:35:14.140
many times covered over, just days following the assassination, welcomed them into her and Charlie's
00:35:19.940
apartment, and here is what they published verbatim. They wrote, it had been Ms. Kirk's plan to
00:35:25.980
accompany her husband to Utah, but her mother would be undergoing medical treatment in Phoenix
00:35:30.580
area that same day. Home needs you, Mr. Kirk told her. They agreed that she would instead travel
00:35:37.420
with him on the next leg of the tour to Colorado State University. So they're already kind of
00:35:41.240
setting up right there. The whole reason she wasn't there was because her mother is so sick
00:35:46.940
and she needed to be there. It continues. Ms. Kirk was sitting in her mother's hospital room
00:35:52.340
at 11.23 a.m. local time in Phoenix when she saw the number of her husband's longtime assistant,
00:35:57.980
Michael McCoy appear on her phone. In retrospect, she said she knew the words, he's been shot before
00:36:04.580
Mr. McCoy screamed them. Kind of weird. Not every day somebody gets shot. That's a political figure.
00:36:11.680
I don't know. That just seems very strange to me. But that's her story. So they said the hospital,
00:36:17.020
again, we're going to have to assume now that this reporter is like just writing whatever they want,
00:36:22.660
the most crucial details. They're just effing up. And for whatever reason, we have a scenario where
00:36:28.420
no one's moving to correct them. Okay. That was the established narrative that she was in the
00:36:32.080
hospital. So it was like this double whammy of she not only lost her husband, but she was just
00:36:35.860
being this doting daughter and, you know, standing by her mother's side. She's getting treatment and
00:36:40.400
her mother looks like she might be dying again. These are psych games. Then we heard straight
00:36:45.480
from Erica in November, a little more detail during her sit down with Jesse Waters. Here is
00:36:50.540
what she told us. How did you find out Charlie had been shot? I was at my mom's doctor's
00:36:57.060
appointment. I had my phone and I see the video coming of him flinging out the hats.
00:37:02.900
And I said, mom, look, it started. There was a cut there too. Did you see that stuff? So
00:37:06.160
we saw the hats being flung. I put my phone down and it was on silent. So I had no reason to look
00:37:12.860
back at it. Did you see that? I moved my mom. I went back to grab my phone. And that's when
00:37:16.960
Mikey started calling me, called me within seconds.
00:37:21.960
Get the kids, get security, get the kids, get the kids.
00:37:28.520
just collapsed in the middle of the parking lot,
00:37:44.460
she collapses in a parking lot also i was just if you heard me speaking to skylar he has like a
00:37:50.060
producer's eye at the stuff i think i noticed a cut actually because there was so much bizarre
00:37:54.180
jump cuts in this interview if you go back and watch it clearly a lot of editing went into it
00:37:58.520
and there's also this bizarre i think i saw a jump cut right when she says i was at my mother's
00:38:03.180
medical appointment and then it looks like they kind of patched it but can you just play the just
00:38:06.780
the beginning again when she. How did you find out Charlie had been shot? Was at my mom's doctor's
00:38:15.100
appointment. I have my phone and I see the video coming of him. Was that a cut or just like a
00:38:18.740
different angle? Could be. Anyways, come out of that. Anyway, the place in question. So then I
00:38:25.180
started prodding, asking people. I was like, well, that's a pretty big event, right? A woman collapsing
00:38:29.400
in a parking lot on a day. This is literally a day that will live in infamy. Everyone will remember
00:38:35.140
where they were when they learned that Charlie Kirk had been shot. That's how big of an event
00:38:38.340
this was. This is like 9-11. I'm sure JFK getting shot. Obviously, I was not alive for that. But
00:38:42.920
I can tell you exactly where I was during 9-11. I can tell you exactly where I was when Charlie
00:38:46.640
got shot. And this is everyone. This has never been seen before to watch somebody bleed out in
00:38:51.580
that way. It spread like fire. So even if you were someone who did not know who Erica Kirk was,
00:38:59.400
if you got the news that Charlie had been shot and you then realized, oh my gosh, that's so
00:39:03.960
funny because then her face was everywhere. I just realized I must have seen Erica Kirk because I was
00:39:08.420
in my car. It's a massive parking lot where she's referring to. And I saw a woman collapse and like
00:39:13.840
that she had blonde hair. Like that's what I'm looking for. Like there should have been a lot
00:39:17.800
of eyewitnesses to the scene of a woman collapsing. It also would require, of course, if you collapse
00:39:22.320
in a parking lot, that the nurses are going to come out, escort you back in. How are you going
00:39:25.720
to get from that parking lot? Are they going to call the police? Who knows? So then I determined
00:39:31.540
that the place in question is not a hospital at all.
00:39:34.140
There's no way that anyone would describe it as a hospital.
00:39:42.840
it is a holistic clinic, which is a good thing.
00:39:47.240
So I just want to assert that it is not by any stretch
00:40:00.640
In fact, she went in for a treatment two days earlier on September 8th because people sent me records of that.
00:40:13.560
But I can confirm she was there on September 8th.
00:40:15.200
Now, regarding the 10th, a very strange thing occurred.
00:40:21.060
I'm looking for anybody in the parking lot, somebody that works there, somebody that maybe works adjacent to it.
00:40:26.100
Send us some tips, more tips at canastones.com.
00:40:28.540
And what we received was a flurry of text messages from various nurses and people who are friends and family of nurses who received these messages, who alleged initially you could see this orbit that Erica was at this place when she got the news that she had collapsed in the parking lot.
00:40:46.060
So I thought, great, now I'm getting closer. And in some of these messages, they said the nurses had to carry her inside. Great.
00:40:53.000
But then when we pushed further, OK, we, you know, bit on the bait. We kept finding that the story fell through the cracks, meaning that everyone involved had heard it from someone. So you get a nurse. This nurse was there. We prod that nurse. Oh, no, no. Actually, I've just followed up with her. Now she's saying here are the messages that it was her other her colleague nurse was there.
00:41:17.280
OK, we find the colleague nurse. This colleague nurse said this. Oh, actually, also hers is not
00:41:22.260
first person. It's another nurse. We were just going around in circles and kept pushing, going.
00:41:27.560
Everyone thinks another nurse saw it. You know, did it happen or were they all told that it
00:41:33.960
happened here? And the more we pushed at long last, we had arrived at a more solidified story.
00:41:41.040
At least it appeared ostensibly like a more solidified story that actually they said,
00:41:43.700
you know what, Erica was there, but she was in a meeting with the lead doctor in his office.
00:41:49.680
Suddenly, her mother had been completely removed from the story. Nobody would confirm
00:41:53.960
Lori in the story. Now, the doctor in question, who I'm not going to name at this moment because
00:41:59.280
we just went out with him because we feel confident in what we have been able to pull
00:42:03.500
together. He and his wife are involved. He's involved, I should say, via his wife in politics
00:42:09.260
in a big way. Federal politics, I would say. And that is of some interest to me. On the other side
00:42:15.320
of things, they certainly, and I'm referring to him and his wife, told friends that Erica was in
00:42:21.640
their office with a friend. To be clear, not with her mother, but with a friend. We also have a
00:42:27.320
person who has come forward and they claim that Erica was with her security guard, Derek Kneekirk,
00:43:02.860
I am again going to also decline to name that woman in Minnesota because we have reached
00:43:08.240
Suffice it to say that when we combine all these testimonies, the common theme, the common
00:43:13.600
denominator, if you will, is that Erica and Lori were apart on September 10th.
00:43:20.120
The doctor just say, you know, you could say you were here.
00:43:26.840
I definitely can establish some connections between Turning Point USA and his wife, where
00:43:32.100
but you know that was one that's one narrative that's running in my mind is did they just say
00:43:38.440
we'll say that's here and I will tell people nurses that you were here and that's how this
00:43:43.100
all spread through why fire like wildfire but no nurse was actually able to confirm
00:43:47.040
that they themselves was there we'll start the rumor if you will that you were here
00:43:51.320
that's one option and another option is she was actually there and in the not with her mother and
00:43:58.700
with Derek D. Kirk and in his office, for some reason, taking a meeting, that's another option.
00:44:05.500
But I feel on the basis of the legwork that we have done and how far we have investigated this
00:44:11.740
and the people that we have spoken to with intimate knowledge, and of course, again,
00:44:17.380
the lack of eyewitness to a woman collapsing in a parking lot on such a day that is eternally
00:44:25.680
downloaded in all of our minds. I feel it is very fair for me to state that I do not believe Erica
00:44:32.860
was with her mother on that day. I believe that was a part of a narrative that was pre-sold to
00:44:38.400
us and packaged beginning actually on September 8th with her post of her mother in a frail state.
00:44:42.420
We will keep pushing. If you have any more information pertaining to what I just shared,
00:44:47.660
please email us at moretipsatcandiceowens.com. Moretipsatcandiceowens.com. Okay, lastly,
00:44:55.000
I am going to check here and see. I think we're running up on time. I do want to honorably
00:44:58.980
mention that Pam Bondi was fired. Trump made the announcement on social media saying,
00:45:05.620
Pam Bondi is a great American patriot, a loyal friend who faithfully served as my attorney
00:45:09.480
general over the past year. Pam did a tremendous job overseeing a massive crackdown in crime across
00:45:14.340
the country, with murders plummeting to their lowest level since 1900. We love Pam, and she
00:45:18.900
will be transitioning to a much-needed and important new job in the private sector to
00:45:23.980
be announced at a date in the near future. And our deputy attorney general and a very talented
00:45:29.260
and respected legal mind, Todd Blanche, will step in to serve as acting attorney general.
00:45:33.600
Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump. Okay. Now, people
00:45:37.660
I think initially thought this must be related to her fumbling the Epstein files so hard. No,
00:45:41.640
her and Trump are on the same team. When it comes to the Epstein files, please do not put that on
00:45:46.240
Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi was doing as she was instructed to do by Trump, by Trump's orbit of
00:45:52.380
friends who are all in the Epstein files. They protected the Epstein files together. It was
00:45:57.060
under her watch, because if that was the case, Kash Patel would be gone too, under her watch
00:46:01.400
and under Kash Patel's watch that the Epstein files got released. And don't forget, because it
00:46:07.020
kind of happened over Christmas, we never discussed it, that during that release, they even released
00:46:11.740
a fake, a deep fake video of Jeffrey Epstein in his cell committing suicide.
00:46:21.040
This kind of was a blip because this all happened on December 23rd, a couple days for Christmas.
00:46:25.440
They released a fake video and they got clocked on the fake video and then they removed the
00:46:34.200
Yeah, because Jeffrey Epstein is clearly alive.
00:46:38.740
It was an Israeli operation to get him out of there.
00:46:41.040
It's the reason why the New York Post had the exclusive photos in the story.
00:46:45.200
This New York Post, for all intents and purposes, just a Mossad outfit.
00:46:50.840
The New York Post exclusively finds Ghislaine Maxwell every single time.
00:46:55.740
And so, yeah, this is not the reason she's being fired.
00:46:59.480
We then learn, actually, that the reason that Trump fired her is because he's upset with her
00:47:05.420
because he believes that she is the one that tipped off Eric Swalwell regarding an investigation
00:47:12.420
into his relationship. You know, he was dating the Chinese spy girl. And so apparently the FBI was
00:47:19.460
sort of preparing a bunch of documents relating to his relationship with Christine Fang. And
00:47:26.320
Trump believes that she intervened and tipped him off and he was angry with her. So it's like,
00:47:32.920
you're not loyal to me, even though she's like, hey, you know, I kind of backed you up on Jeffrey
00:47:38.920
Epstein. But you know how Trump is. You're in or you're out. And if you don't worship the ground
00:47:44.160
he walks on and do everything he says, then you got to go. So Trump needs a better dog, essentially.
00:47:50.460
And she is sleazy, obviously. And so I don't know why he's shocked you're all sleazy. The whole
00:47:55.900
everybody is sleazy post Epstein. But don't don't get excited, guys. It certainly is not related to
00:48:02.540
Trump doing the right thing. Don't be confused and think that he did the right thing and realize
00:48:06.880
that they fumbled the Epstein ball, even though that's how they're going to want to play it to
00:48:10.480
the public, because the other part sounds much more petty. And that's why it's buried deep in
00:48:14.060
all the articles about what happened with Eric Swalwell. So I wanted you guys to know that
00:48:17.500
everything is still tremendously fake and gay, and we are being ruled by elites, people who
00:48:23.980
deem themselves to be elites, but are actually kind of just deranged and disgusting. So there
00:48:28.360
was that. We'll take a brief break before I get to some of your comments.
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Top comment from yesterday's episode came from Chewing the Void.
00:50:16.480
He wrote, they really said, let's run the JFK model one more time and expected nobody to notice.
00:50:29.040
did you really want something and then they were like let's do this let's bring back the bullet
00:50:32.540
comparative bullet analysis thing and no one will notice we discontinued it because but because we
00:50:36.340
needed it then and we need it again and i there's actually more evidence i'm not even kidding or you
00:50:42.980
could say the same amount of evidence and an absence of evidence that charlie there's no
00:50:47.320
evidence charlie was even shot there's no evidence charlie was even shot because it doesn't make
00:50:51.140
sense that they're saying we cut him open went into his stomach and what you got one little
00:50:54.760
fragment is that the new story they're telling first it was the bullet okay it fragmented there
00:50:58.700
should be a lot of fragments. I am looking forward to the defense getting the files from the ATF that
00:51:05.260
they are requesting. You know, not just a summary, but the actual files, the pictures, the photos. I
00:51:09.660
want to see what it is that they are claiming was found in Charlie's thorax, or it was a thorax,
00:51:17.040
then it was under his skin. The story changes all the time. It's like every, like I said, little
00:51:20.480
edits. Mikey called me within seconds. Oh, actually, no, Mikey did not call you within seconds.
00:51:27.740
It seems like they were kind of already on the phone so quick.
00:51:32.540
Like, why is everybody, like, just slightly adjusting?
00:51:40.760
Kind of, like, left Elizabeth McCoy out of the story.
00:51:43.000
And then, like, suddenly, like, oh, actually, there's one more thing.
00:51:46.020
Did Charlie train Mikey McCoy to call his wife?
00:51:51.240
Like, Mikey did exactly what he was supposed to do.
00:52:25.120
Why are you, why do you want to know who killed Charlie? You're just jealous of Erica.
00:52:31.060
Stop. She's, we're just hot. Yeah. You're just jealous. That's why you want to know who killed
00:52:37.100
her husband because you're jealous. It's like, guys, you got to work on the messaging. Also,
00:52:41.100
then like the clip going around of him, like reading his speech, being like, Charlie loved
00:52:45.160
Erica very much. I had to chuckle about that because in particular, Charlie was so good at
00:52:49.800
maneuvering with the White House and like he always had an in with Trump's speech writer.
00:52:54.140
So he would tell them, please save a sentence, please save a sentence if there was something that he wanted to promote, like when we were promoting Brexit. And so Trump did not write that, obviously. The speechwriter did, which means somebody replaced Charlie, probably not him, maybe Stacey Sheridan or somebody, and was like, hey, could you put this in the speech? Put in the speech that Charlie loved Erica. And that's why he looks on his paper. He's like, Charlie loved Erica very much. Trump doesn't write his own speeches, guys.
00:53:17.040
OK, so that is highly embarrassing, highly embarrassing that you view something that should have so much substance as a talking point that will, you know, somehow bear more weight.
00:53:29.520
The president of the United States says it actually make it diminishes it, diminishes it.
00:53:33.740
That's not what you want. Trump to mention your company.
00:53:36.480
You don't want Trump. You shouldn't need Trump to say that your husband loved you.
00:53:55.260
Hi Blake, please show a trusted third party then,
00:54:02.600
and let them verify or deny for the public on their good words.
00:54:22.840
You picked Dead Man's Dying Wish as her walkout music.
00:54:33.980
Our entire basis of what we're doing relies on us telling people
00:54:46.760
Candice, you are one of the few podcasters that I admire.
00:55:04.600
Hey, Candice, compared to a subway knife psycho,
00:55:08.900
Tim Dillon hears that and just cackles it's a real knife fight out here a friend of the show
00:55:13.760
knows bring facts or bring a bigger blade keep carving legends yeah I mean I laughed so hard
00:55:18.920
because he's just like so unhinged you could just tell he's very emotionally immature he's like
00:55:22.220
always like bursting somebody tweeted something so funny about his mannerisms and I'm gonna butcher
00:55:27.620
it and I hate that I'm gonna do that but they were basically like whenever he speaks it's it's
00:55:31.360
like a lie it's like the lie is trying to escape him you know like it's like he's like so uncomfortable
00:55:35.720
like jitters and like, he's like, the lie doesn't even want to be there. And there it is. And
00:55:41.140
Blake really does have that demeanor. He's like, he's like a child or something. It's just strange
00:55:46.360
to me. Seven Sheets writes, TPUSA understands that they cannot replace Charlie, a one-of-a-kind
00:55:51.060
innovator who led with authenticity, compassion, and transparency. Notably, he saw that in you.
00:55:55.940
Not one comes close to filling the shoes of that man. Happy Easter and God bless you. Happy Easter.
00:56:00.040
And I so agree. He led with authenticity and compassion and transparency and honesty. You
00:56:04.980
know, he was honest about himself, his flaws. He did make mistakes. It's so stupid that they're
00:56:09.160
like trying to turn him into, are you saying that Charlie made mistakes all the time? I argued with
00:56:14.580
him about his mistakes. He argued with me about mine. We opened up to each other about our mistakes,
00:56:18.280
our flaws. He was a human being. So it's so weird. That's one of their strangest arguments.
00:56:22.000
Are you saying he could have hired someone that in the end stabbed him in the back? Yeah.
00:56:27.000
$100 million coming. Yeah, I'm saying that. I am saying that. Remember me as having said that.
00:56:35.520
Thank you. So weird. They're like, they're not even good at these like psychological games
00:56:40.420
anymore. Lauren Brown writes, it's like watching the scene from Bridesmaids where she gives the
00:56:46.540
toast to Erica's answer at the New York Times Book Summit. It just goes on and on, my friends,
00:56:53.900
90s kids. This is an answer that never ends. It just goes on and on. My friends, like she just
00:57:01.220
keeps going. I don't know if the PR was in the back, like, just shut up. Just stop speaking.
00:57:08.420
Or if they were like, just like we told you, keep speaking. Don't stop. They'll forget where they
00:57:13.320
are. Don't know. Honestly, with Andrew Colveg, probably the latter. Hot Mess Mom writes,
00:57:33.900
he said, I want to be remembered for courage, for my faith.
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I have never heard that question asked from a donor, ever.
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were at the event, they said what they remembered,
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To which he then said something about Steve Jobs
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and how these people hire lieutenants who they trust.
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So how did we then jump to the edit of him saying Erica?
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Like, are they editing a joke he made a different time?
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Put pressure on Turning Point USA to release this tape.
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Everyone should put pressure on Turning Point USA to release the tape as they promised.
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Well, this is some footage that is unseen that we would like to see.
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Um, and I also want to tell you guys, obviously we're going off for a week.
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We have tons to investigate if I will put out more APBs.
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Um, if you know anything about, um, Erica's whereabouts on September 10th, we want to hear
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We think we're pretty close to nailing her down.
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And also want to oddly mention, like just when we went live, I heard about Judge Lehman
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throwing out an entire portion of Justin Baldoni's case, Blake Lively's case against him for sexual
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harassment. And I'm having the best week ever. What can I say? I am having the best week ever.
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I just have like extra sauce and glitter and balloons on me. I am glowing this week. I don't
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know what's happening, but this week is about me. This should have been my birthday. My birthday's
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not for weeks, but this should have been my birthday week. I am so upset it wasn't because
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It feels like I'm just just racking up the winds, you know, strong week for Candace
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Owens supporters. Justice ultimately being served. You go, Justin Baldoni. That is my
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cousin, you know, and he knows we're this close, guys, to getting the kombucha. We are
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this close. Did I tell you guys, fun update, he's moving here to Tennessee. I know why
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he's moving here. No one has figured this out. He's moving here because eventually he
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wants to get kombucha with me. So congratulations, Justin Baldoni. The sexual assault claims
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While we are gone, if you need to get your fill of me,
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so we will just be running short clips on a separate channel
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If you miss me, put on a sweatshirt that I have in my closet.
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Why wouldn't you be wearing a sweatshirt that says CIA?
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Why wouldn't you be drinking out of a mug that says CIA?
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or we'll be restocking them in a couple of weeks,
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but they will be restocked in a couple of weeks.