Candace Owens - July 22, 2025


The Epstein Files： The House Of Maxwell ｜ Ep 2


Episode Stats

Length

44 minutes

Words per Minute

162.76013

Word Count

7,224

Sentence Count

513

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary

The story of a young Hungarian boy who was sent to a concentration camp. The story of how he and his family were tortured and eventually liberated by American soldiers. Also, Jeffrey Epstein's new book is out and it's a doozy.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, happy Tuesday. And listen up because it's official. Xavier Poussard, the author of Becoming Brigitte, has officially been sued by Brigitte Macron. And it's for cyberbullying. Cyberbullying? Huh? And in the official report that she's filed with the police, I get an honorable mention. So I'm going to tell you all about that. Also, the Trump administration is all over the place right now.
00:00:23.380 They're like, look over here, the MLK files, we're releasing them today. Look over here. Have you guys been following the Brian Kohlberg stabbings in Idaho? Yeah, well, we're demanding answers. Look everywhere. But over there. I don't know, guys, it's starting to feel like they're saying a lot of words, a lot of words to really just come out and say that they want us to move on from Jeffrey Epstein. And here's the thing. No, just no.
00:00:50.840 So today we continue our series looking into The Epstein Files.
00:01:08.920 So look, this is going to be controversial. My podcast is controversial, but I've got to tell you a story and you are going to want to listen to this. It's a story about a young Hungarian boy.
00:01:20.840 His name is Miklos, OK? Miklos had a bit of misfortune in his life. And I want to be clear, this was in April of 1944. So not long before the end of the war.
00:01:32.220 But he and his family, along with 17,000 other terror-stricken Hungarians, were forcefully made to commute into a camp, which would later come to be known as Auschwitz.
00:01:46.580 Miklos was transferred alongside his brother, his mother, his father.
00:01:49.980 And almost as soon as they arrived, he recounts that his mother and his younger brother were separated from him and eventually killed very quickly.
00:01:59.500 He also recounts how he and his father were then made to shave their heads.
00:02:05.060 They were given white tags with numbers that were on them, black numbers that were made out of cloth.
00:02:10.900 Later on, he would tell that from that day forward, he lost his identity.
00:02:15.320 He was no longer Miklos. He became a number. That number was 11104.
00:02:22.180 Like I said, they were made to change into these working clothes, and eventually they had those numbers tattooed upon their skin.
00:02:30.780 Eventually, because of the working conditions, his father just grew too weak.
00:02:35.260 It was just the most insane things that they were made to endure every day physically.
00:02:40.540 And so his father says to his son, look, I'm not going to make it.
00:02:44.280 I'm not going to survive the labor of this camp, but I want you to make me a promise.
00:02:48.720 I'm paraphrasing here, but he makes Miklos promise him that if Miklos ever makes it out of the camp,
00:02:54.460 he wants Miklos to commit himself to telling the world the truth regarding what they suffered.
00:02:58.760 What happens next is that his father is then selected to be exterminated because he's no use, he's too weak.
00:03:06.620 And Miklos says that he felt his entire body and his soul were then just worn out from this news.
00:03:13.920 He then goes and he finds two other inmates who had befriended his father throughout this time,
00:03:20.120 and their names were Abraham and Lazar.
00:03:23.220 Abraham and Lazar, we sell.
00:03:25.260 Abraham had the number 7712 tattooed upon him,
00:03:31.920 and Lazar had the number 7713 tattooed upon him.
00:03:36.620 The two brothers made a promise to Miklos that they would take care of him in his father's absence,
00:03:41.340 and sure enough, his father was then killed.
00:03:43.960 But the three of them, they were now a band of brothers.
00:03:47.980 Months later, they were informed that the Russians had managed to break through,
00:03:51.880 and in January of 1945, the order came in that it was time to leave Auschwitz.
00:03:58.400 Now, those who didn't have the strength to make the journey, which was going to be a very long walk,
00:04:02.280 30 kilometers in the snow, they would be left to die.
00:04:06.040 They either were going to make that walk or they weren't.
00:04:09.020 Like I said, through snow and through the cold, and then what happens is 30 kilometers later,
00:04:15.020 they're crammed onto trains, and many of them die from various ailments,
00:04:18.960 until finally, those that survived that long journey arrive at Buchenwald, a different camp.
00:04:25.580 It was there that Miklos is reunited with Lazar,
00:04:29.400 and he learned, unfortunately, that Lazar's brother Abraham did not make the journey.
00:04:34.380 He was not strong enough.
00:04:35.200 Here's what happens next.
00:04:37.600 Days later, they are liberated by U.S. soldiers.
00:04:41.200 Now, Americans listening to this, we know this story.
00:04:43.380 We know the story of liberation.
00:04:45.220 It is on the fourth day of liberation that American soldiers rush into block number 57,
00:04:52.580 where both Lazar and Miklos are bunked,
00:04:56.400 and the American soldiers take a photo.
00:04:58.380 It would become one of the most famous photos ever captured of Liberation Day.
00:05:04.340 You've probably seen this photo before.
00:05:07.380 After a medical exam, he again loses track of his friend Lazar.
00:05:14.200 Miklos is diagnosed with tuberculosis, and he begins a long road to recovery.
00:05:19.420 He gets treated in Switzerland, and he would later recount how it really took him years
00:05:24.660 to treat the psychological effects, having to adapt to normal behavior again in the world.
00:05:31.020 Fast forward 45 years later, and it's 1986, and a man, a man named Elie Wiesel,
00:05:42.360 is awarded a Nobel Peace Prize for his work documenting the atrocities that he survived at Auschwitz.
00:05:50.000 He had told the world that he was one of the inmates in the now-feigned liberation photo.
00:05:55.540 So Miklos, who is now going by the name Niklaus, like Niklas,
00:06:02.280 begins receiving all these phone calls from journalists asking if he would like to meet up
00:06:06.280 with his old inmate from Buchenwald, Elie Wiesel.
00:06:10.000 A newspaper editor says,
00:06:11.620 Hey, we will even fly you to the Grand Hotel in Sweden for this reunion.
00:06:15.680 We want to capture this reunion.
00:06:17.520 And he's on the phone, and Niklaus is, he's a bit confused.
00:06:20.160 He's going, Elie Wiesel, the newspaper editor informs him that Elie Lazar Wiesel was due to receive
00:06:28.780 the Nobel Prize, and that they would arrange that meeting for him to see his old friend
00:06:33.280 on December 14th at the Grand Hotel.
00:06:37.020 Suddenly, he is overcome with joy.
00:06:39.240 I mean, can you imagine having survived that?
00:06:41.540 You have lost Hutch.
00:06:42.740 It's now some 40-plus years later.
00:06:45.920 He recounts that he felt joy and he felt honor.
00:06:48.180 Four days later, his flight is booked, and he soon boards that plane to Stockholm,
00:06:54.080 where he recounts that he is thinking deeply on the plane about,
00:06:58.020 What's he going to say to this guy?
00:06:59.140 Man, I haven't seen him in so many years.
00:07:00.680 What can I tell Lazar?
00:07:03.580 What can we give one another, having survived this unique experience?
00:07:08.480 And then finally, he says, the flight went by so quickly, hardly remembers it.
00:07:12.700 Then finally, that moment arrived for them to meet in the Grand Hotel.
00:07:16.560 I'm going to quote him directly now.
00:07:19.520 He writes, quote,
00:07:20.520 After about 10 minutes waiting, the door opened, and beyond expectation, in came a man of my own age,
00:07:28.920 heading towards me with a smile on his face, saying hello.
00:07:32.020 I returned the smile, but I did not know to whom I was smiling at.
00:07:36.320 The question regarding a handshake was hanging in the air.
00:07:40.840 I made a quick move in reaching out with an attempt to shake hands with him to say hello to him,
00:07:44.900 and I finished up saying, delighted to see you.
00:07:48.420 He said, Ellie.
00:07:49.860 I asked him, in half Jewish, he means Yiddish, and half English, what language he would prefer to speak in.
00:07:59.420 Jewish, I said.
00:08:00.660 He replied, no.
00:08:02.220 Then I asked him if Hungarian would suit him better, and he said, I can't speak Hungarian.
00:08:08.700 Okay, I said, then we'll take it in English.
00:08:10.960 And he opened up conveying regards from a rabbi living in Israel who was previously stationed in Sweden.
00:08:18.880 His part of the performance started in front of the cameras, which I would say was professionally carried out.
00:08:23.980 He was a master of his job.
00:08:25.920 He's referring, of course, to Ellie.
00:08:27.040 All of a sudden, the reporter and the photographer joined the conversation, asked if we knew one another from before.
00:08:32.540 I said no, and Ellie agreed with my statement.
00:08:37.460 Ellie then hands him a signed copy of his book.
00:08:40.960 Night.
00:08:42.700 Nikolaus Gruner is completely gobsmacked.
00:08:45.500 He soon realizes that he's been set up as a moment of profound propaganda for this stranger who is not Lazar, who he was in the camp with.
00:08:57.020 Anyways, he leaves, and he begins reading the book Night, and soon after realizes that that man, Ellie, is not only an imposter, but he's also a fraud.
00:09:07.260 He reads the book and is shocked at the stories that he is telling that he says certainly didn't happen while he was there.
00:09:14.980 He writes, quote,
00:10:15.660 Nikolaus Gruner is the book and was therefore entered into his father's passport if he had one.
00:10:20.500 Furthermore, according to my knowledge, a Hungarian passport was protected by law against abuse, and an improper treatment would lead to a very heavy fine.
00:10:28.640 And besides, one had to be at least 23 years old to hold a passport then, end quote.
00:10:37.000 Nikolaus then spends the rest of his life dedicated to exposing this fraud, Ellie Wiesel, who he claims stole the identity of his friend,
00:10:47.320 eventually culminating into a book by Nikolaus entitled Stolen Identity, and he has that number, A7713, where he then reveals throughout his entire life,
00:11:00.120 he then dedicates it to telling the truth.
00:11:01.600 He reveals that Ellie doesn't even have a tattoo.
00:11:06.160 Hungarian news would confirm that.
00:11:07.640 Multiple pictures show Ellie wearing short sleeves, doesn't have a tattoo, which was required, at least according to Nikolaus, for all of the inmates to have.
00:11:18.020 He goes through lawsuits.
00:11:19.480 He's suing the Hungarian government.
00:11:20.860 He starts to believe that there is some conspiracy to try to platform this guy.
00:11:25.720 He sues rabbis for libel.
00:11:27.360 I mean, when I say he dedicates the rest of his life to exposing this Nobel Prize winner as a fraud, that's exactly what he did.
00:11:38.440 And then he says he's not surprised because when Ellie Wiesel eventually dies, they bury him very quickly, very quickly, too quickly.
00:11:47.980 And he says, yeah, they did that because if journalists had been allowed in to see his body, they would have noted that he did not have a tattoo.
00:11:56.480 Now, this guy stole the identity of a Holocaust survivor.
00:11:59.360 So who is this Ellie, Ellie Wiesel, who allegedly steals this identity, who steals identities, no less, and then makes up these stories, which, by the way, it is confirmed.
00:12:13.040 The fictionalized stories in his book, Night.
00:12:16.260 Well, as I told you guys before, Ellie, Ellie Wiesel was the cousin of Robert Maxwell, man, a man of many names, as we told you before, man of many identities, like we told you before.
00:12:31.100 And therefore, Ellie Wiesel becomes a very curious piece of the Epstein story.
00:12:37.940 Now enter Ghislaine Maxwell's mother, because that's how this connects.
00:12:43.220 Again, this is Robert Maxwell's wife.
00:12:45.620 I'm going to tell you about her.
00:12:47.040 She is known as Betty.
00:12:48.640 She was born on March 11th, 1921, in Saint-Alban-de-Roche, yes, in France.
00:12:56.120 Her full name is Elisabeth Jenny Jean Maynard.
00:12:59.520 And she comes from, well, she comes from a Lyon line of silk-weaving industrialists, which were founded by her ancestor, a Swiss Calvinist merchant named Samuel de Bar.
00:13:12.040 Now, Elisabeth Menard would go on in her life to explain how this mixed marriage, obviously, she was a Calvinist Christian and he was a Jew, and how the religious question arose between them as soon as they met.
00:13:25.260 And she says that Robert Maxwell was relieved that she was a Protestant and not a Catholic.
00:13:31.380 She writes that it seemed to have relieved him because, on the whole, Protestants were not anti-Semitic, but, you know, the Catholics were.
00:13:38.800 So the story goes that she then commits herself to learning Hebrew, and she really throws herself into Robert Maxwell's ancestry, and, of course, therefore, you know, the Holocaust.
00:13:53.020 Now, I should tell you now that Robert Maxwell, it may come as a shock to you, but he was not the only fraud in the Maxwell clan.
00:14:00.920 Because after his exceedingly well-timed death, his wife sat down, opted to sit down for a very long, rather dramatic interview with Vanity Fair, and in this, you can see it's entitled The Sinking of Captain Bob, and she kind of gloriously arrives sitting in one of their mansions.
00:14:22.380 I'm going to read directly from this article because I love this.
00:14:24.960 I like to picture her, just very dramatic.
00:14:27.500 The reporter writes,
00:14:28.460 She was sitting on the edge of a chintz-covered loveseat, sipping tea, and staring at me over the rim of her cup with her cool, teal-blue eyes.
00:14:37.980 We were talking about how the whole of British society seemed to be gloating over the fall of House of Maxwell.
00:14:43.880 Well, some newspapers reported that Betty Maxwell had closed her Oxford mansion with its soaring stained glass window depicting Maxwell as Samson at the gates of Gaza and absconded to her thatch-roofed chateau near Bejerac in the southwest of France.
00:15:02.820 But in fact, the iron-willed matriarch of the Maxwell family was still living in her adopted land, shuttling from lawyer to lawyer in an effort to unravel the tangled skin of her husband's financial affairs and to salvage whatever she could of her own inheritance.
00:15:20.520 Elsewhere in the interview, she declares, quote,
00:15:23.220 They say that I have 500,000 pounds. Those are lies. I haven't anything.
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00:17:46.460 Okay, now we're going to jump back.
00:17:49.580 Betty, Betty Maxwell.
00:17:50.720 I mean, whew, husband.
00:17:52.260 Right as the walls are closing in upon him.
00:17:55.280 They're starting to investigate him.
00:17:56.860 They're realizing, oh my gosh, the pensions are missing.
00:17:59.660 And, yeah, conveniently timed death.
00:18:03.900 And now they're saying, oh, guys, we just need time to mourn.
00:18:07.860 Oh, I can't believe people think that I knew anything about it, Betty is telling this Vanity Fair reporter.
00:18:12.260 I know nothing about what happens in Liechtenstein.
00:18:14.980 I know nothing.
00:18:15.860 I have nothing.
00:18:19.060 Hmm.
00:18:19.640 Well, the truth is actually that Betty was not broke.
00:18:23.800 Betty did not have nothing.
00:18:25.580 She was not broke at all.
00:18:26.440 She'll never know day of her life of what it means to be broke.
00:18:29.580 As Xavier Poussard reveals in his forthcoming book about Epstein, despite the generally accepted story that after insurers refused to pay out the life insurance for her husband because it was assumed he had committed suicide,
00:18:42.560 Elizabeth wrote a book called Tout Soleil S'Amer, which means all the sun is bitter about her chaotic family life.
00:18:50.360 She also recounts how Ghislaine Maxwell, her daughter, had been treated for anorexia, like a laboratory rat, et cetera, et cetera, all these stories.
00:18:59.040 And, yeah, it was told that those book sales allowed the family to survive.
00:19:02.420 But the truth, as revealed in part by the Financial Times in 1992, is that she also inherited three apartments in France.
00:19:11.940 It's also revealed years later that the will forgot to include the part where multiple properties were given to her, as well as hectares of land and forests, actually, that Robert Maxwell had acquired in his wife's name before he disappeared or committed suicide or whatever we're supposed to believe.
00:19:30.640 And beyond that, it would be discovered that a financial war chest had been sheltered away for her with the complicity of the Labour member of Parliament, a guy named Geoffrey Robinson.
00:19:43.380 If you're in the UK, you might be familiar with that name because he was the former boss of Jaguar.
00:19:49.080 Yes, like the car.
00:19:50.420 He was also an ex-Soviet agent.
00:19:53.280 Who then go on to become the future paymaster general under Prime Minister Tony Blair, very corrupt Prime Minister, and Peter Mandelson, that duo.
00:20:04.520 Anyways, the point is, is that she was far from financially ruined.
00:20:07.940 So this was a performance.
00:20:09.780 She was wealthy from the day she was born up until the day that she met Robert Maxwell through to the day that she died.
00:20:16.380 And while she lived, I should tell you now, going back to his cousin, Ellie Wietzel, she sort of rather obsessed herself with documenting the horrors of the Holocaust.
00:20:29.620 In fact, according to Xavier Poussard and various other sources, it was under pressure from Betty that Robert Maxwell, while he was robbing the UK hardworking people of their pensions, he commissioned Churchill's meticulous biographer, a guy named Martin Gilbert, a professor at Harvard, to draw up an atlas of the Holocaust, which was then published by Pergamon Press in 1988.
00:20:56.400 Remember, Pergamon Press, as we know, was a deep state operation.
00:21:01.160 They sent Robert Maxwell into Germany.
00:21:03.300 He acquires this magazine, renames it the Pergamon Press.
00:21:08.040 And yeah, so suddenly they're publishing an atlas of the Holocaust in 1988, specifically all the places and all the original figures of the persecution.
00:21:17.740 She also worked with Yad Vashem in Jerusalem to produce a white book of documents pertaining to the Holocaust.
00:21:25.520 Again, published by Pergamon Press, 1988.
00:21:29.260 In 1987, she then found the Journal for the Holocaust and Genocide Studies, first published by Pergamon Press and then later on by Oxford University Press.
00:21:41.900 And the year following that, in London and in Oxford, she organizes a conference entitled Remembering for the Future, a world conference with the support, of course, Robert Maxwell and the enormous resources provided by his media empire.
00:22:01.640 And also, of course, with the support alongside Elie Wiesel and others.
00:22:09.640 It was a symposium that was intended to force the Lambeth Conference, which is the official meeting of the Anglican Church, to repent.
00:22:18.940 She actually wrote this.
00:22:20.760 This was published in a left-leaning publication.
00:22:22.680 She wrote, quote,
00:22:23.940 Christians through their churches and the whole of Christendom are co-responsible for the Holocaust.
00:22:32.380 I want the studies carried out in the world on the church to be made public.
00:22:36.720 It is a matter of addressing Christians.
00:22:38.920 The problem of the Holocaust is a Christian problem.
00:22:41.660 She also stated that, quote,
00:22:44.420 Christian teaching, which teaches contempt, has been responsible for anti-Semitism for 2,000 years and Christians still have not understood it.
00:22:55.340 Yeah, that statement was published in Liberation, again, a left-leaning newspaper in France on April 28th, 1988.
00:23:02.520 And she also clarified that, quote,
00:23:06.660 the first step for Christians is to recognize their guilt and to ask Jews for forgiveness.
00:23:14.020 Okay.
00:23:15.600 Anyways, 1995, she then gets invited to be the Grand Marshal of the Salute to Israel parade.
00:23:22.020 She leads the procession of the largest demonstration of support for Israel, which is held annually, by the way, on Fifth Avenue in New York.
00:23:30.740 She's then appointed to become the vice president of the International Council of Christians and Jews.
00:23:39.180 A lot of that going around, you know, these Christian-Jews collaborations.
00:23:43.300 And, yeah, that's just amazing stuff, you guys.
00:23:47.820 What are we to make of all of this?
00:23:50.040 Hmm.
00:23:50.560 We've got Robert Maxwell over there robbing pension funds to support Israel, something that we know Epstein is also doing in America.
00:23:58.000 They're lying.
00:23:59.240 There's so many names that are being changed.
00:24:00.720 We now know that his cousin, Ellie, is making up or making up things about what happened at Auschwitz.
00:24:08.080 And for some reason, he doesn't want to show his number that was supposed to be tattooed.
00:24:13.800 And later on, this guy, this brave guy who's taking him to task, going through courts to establish that this man was a fraud, discovers that he stole a manuscript that was written in Yiddish.
00:24:26.460 He learns that Ellie doesn't even speak Yiddish.
00:24:29.220 Ellie doesn't, who claims that he was Hungarian, born in Romania, had a Hungarian passport, doesn't even speak Hungarian.
00:24:38.040 What's going on, guys?
00:24:41.460 Now we know that with him, they're establishing educational books related to the Holocaust.
00:24:50.000 And speaking of education, this might be a good time to tell you that Robert Maxwell was very interested in the education of upcoming Americans, people like myself.
00:25:00.220 In fact, the year that I was born in 1989, Robert Maxwell's company, Maxwell Communication Corporation, formed a joint venture with McGraw-Hill.
00:25:10.800 Now, Americans know McGraw-Hill, right?
00:25:13.020 They published all of our textbooks growing up.
00:25:15.780 McGraw-Hill would create the second largest textbook publishing in the United States, publishing agency in the United States.
00:25:23.220 Yeah, they did this with Robert Maxwell.
00:25:27.260 Of course, after he then died and the family was then thrust into scandal, McGraw dropped him as their partner.
00:25:33.680 But what was the intention of that partnership?
00:25:37.540 What's this guy we know is working for MI6 and making this sort of fake publishing empire, Midas Touch, pull through?
00:25:47.500 What was the intention of that partnership to publish textbooks to teach Americans what exactly?
00:25:56.920 It's very interesting, right?
00:25:59.000 And by the way, we're talking about the deep state and their interest in publishing and purchasing all these magazines and educating us.
00:26:05.480 They weren't the only people that were interested in having a stake in the education of American minds.
00:26:10.900 Because remember Donald Barr?
00:26:12.220 I keep bringing this guy up.
00:26:13.720 Incredible guy who wrote that fantasy series predicting Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein and human trafficking, space relations by Donald Barr, member of the OSS, which would come on to become the CIA, right?
00:26:27.400 His son, William Barr, who says nothing to see here.
00:26:31.060 Jeffrey Epstein's dead.
00:26:32.220 He just, you know, prison just wasn't doing what they were supposed to be doing that day.
00:26:37.260 And that's how he ended up dead.
00:26:39.660 Yeah, well, Donald Barr also was interested in educational books.
00:26:42.940 He published educational books as well.
00:26:45.880 Just fascinating to consider.
00:26:47.760 Educational books pertaining to our evolution, where we come from, the primitive man, kind of the start of we were monkeys and Australopithecus and describing science for children.
00:27:01.140 Atomic energy for children.
00:27:03.360 It's all connected somehow.
00:27:04.960 Their interest in science and republishing science and teaching us what is real and what is fake.
00:27:10.920 Anyways, now, it is quite a weird thing.
00:27:13.520 We all have to admit that a family of survivors of the Holocaust, allegedly, as the Maxwells were, would commit themselves to causes that were then meant to control birth.
00:27:26.300 It's weird that the Maxwells would want anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:27:30.720 No, because he was openly a eugenicist.
00:27:33.520 In 2019, it was revealed that Epstein had planned to, quote, seed the human race with his DNA by impregnating up to 20 women at a time using his New Mexican compound as a baby ranch.
00:27:46.320 And also, one of Ghislaine's siblings would marry into the family that created the contraceptive pill.
00:27:54.180 Really?
00:27:55.200 All seems, I don't know, a conflict of interest for Holocaust survivors.
00:27:58.980 I don't know.
00:27:59.380 I digress.
00:28:00.300 I'm not here to form conclusions.
00:28:01.580 I'm just here to tell you the story.
00:28:03.420 And that's probably a good place for us to stop until we pick up things again tomorrow.
00:28:08.020 Because a lot of things are coming together, and I'm having a lot of questions that I will maybe reserve for the book club tonight.
00:28:14.360 Anyways, you guys, speaking of France, and switching gears here to some breaking news.
00:28:20.680 Xavier Poussard, who is also documenting, obviously, this series with Epstein, has been very good at revealing that there's a lot of perversion at the top of the French government.
00:28:30.120 The biggest thing being the first lady is a dude, right?
00:28:34.860 And, like, a lot of pedophilia keeps happening.
00:28:37.840 And, yeah, she maybe fell for a 14-year-old.
00:28:40.620 That's kind of problematic.
00:28:41.580 Well, guess what?
00:28:42.280 I told you that despite him having to pick up and move his family to Italy, he had received summons to the Italian police station, telling him that they had some documents for him.
00:28:51.480 Well, guess what?
00:28:52.160 He got served.
00:28:54.360 Yep.
00:28:54.720 Brigitte Macron.
00:28:55.760 This is a tweet from him.
00:28:58.100 He wrote breaking news.
00:28:59.340 Brigitte Macron sues Xavier Poussard for cyber harassment.
00:29:04.720 Goes on to read that summoned on the 21st of July, 2025, to the Milan Office of Division of Investigations, General Investigations, and Special Operations, which is the special police in Italy.
00:29:16.320 The author of Becoming Brigitte was told that he would be questioned, soon following a complaint by Brigitte Macron for cyber harassment.
00:29:23.240 In the minutes of this complaint, which we have been able to look up, Brigitte Macron tells the commissioner,
00:29:29.340 who exceptionally came to the Élysée Palace, I, quote,
00:29:34.800 I don't go on a trip abroad without hearing about it.
00:29:37.860 There isn't a spouse of the head of a state who is not aware of the rumor about her trans identity.
00:29:45.080 Anyways, he goes on to recount that he is, in fact, being sued for cyber harassment.
00:29:49.580 They were able to get the documents of that person who went to the Élysée Palace to question her about how she was enduring this cyber harassment.
00:29:58.800 Because like we told you, they're now switching gears.
00:30:01.400 They know they can't win a lawsuit unliable because it's the truth, and the truth is a defense, and they're putting themselves at risk because in order to prove that it's liable, you have to prove that it's untrue, and they can't do that.
00:30:12.320 They cannot do that.
00:30:13.360 So instead, she's switching gears, and she's going after journalists for cyber bullying, cyber harassment, laws which they have in France, which we don't have here in America.
00:30:22.640 I don't think that she's going to be able to come after me for cyber harassment, but she is trying, and she says this when that commissioner arrived at the Élysée Palace on page four, page three out of four.
00:30:36.320 You can see here they're transcribing in English.
00:30:38.280 They ask her, have you ever heard of Candace Owens?
00:30:40.900 And Brigitte says, yes, of course.
00:30:42.700 And my counsel in the United States, Mr. Clare, has initiated proceedings against him, calling, not Brigitte, calling me a him, to demand an apology and public correction or retractions.
00:30:56.600 Otherwise, the proceedings will continue.
00:31:00.560 Yeah, that's not happening ever.
00:31:04.220 And I have been kind of asking for you to continue those proceedings because it would be pretty interesting.
00:31:10.380 Like I said, you can't just be suing people down in Tennessee for cyber harassment, for reporting on the truth.
00:31:17.440 I know that you guys have amassed a lot of power in France, which seems to be home.
00:31:21.200 A lot of this grotesque perversion that is happening in the world.
00:31:26.180 Epstein's living there.
00:31:28.140 Maxwell's are living there.
00:31:29.840 Everyone's got a home there.
00:31:31.100 They know that they can always have a home there, there or in Israel.
00:31:36.060 It's getting pretty interesting.
00:31:37.180 It's getting pretty spicy.
00:31:38.640 We'll see if she comes after me.
00:31:40.940 But obviously, we're going to continue to report on what's happening to Xavier Poussard.
00:31:44.320 Now, my best guess is it's also the fact, the reason that they won't stop is, like I said, it's all tied together.
00:31:51.360 The story of the Maxwells, the story of the Epsteins, the story of Brigitte Macron and what is going on in France.
00:31:56.660 And this man has been documenting it for years.
00:32:00.360 So they are throwing the kitchen sink at him.
00:32:02.340 We've got to get him some way, somehow, at least distracted so that he's not reporting so people don't begin to understand what exactly has taken place in this world.
00:32:11.840 It is indeed, what I can say is it's a lot of drama.
00:32:17.360 And speaking of drama, there was a drama playing out on Capitol Hill right now because of pressure.
00:32:23.420 However, we have Attorney General Pam Bondi saying she's agreed to meet with Ghislaine Maxwell.
00:32:30.560 Yeah, here's the headline coming out of NBC News.
00:32:32.840 Deputy Attorney General will meet with Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell.
00:32:36.720 And she says, you know, if there's more to figure out here, we're going to see.
00:32:40.260 We can get to the bottom of it.
00:32:41.400 But this is all fake and you should not accept this.
00:32:45.240 The moment that she should have just gone away and we could stop listening to Pam Bondi is the moment when she actually said that she was not sure whether or not Epstein could have been working for another country.
00:32:57.140 Despite the fact that we have testimony in the form of Viktor Atrofsky, who we covered, he defected from the Mossad, wrote a book, gave many speeches, speaking about exactly how he worked with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:33:09.400 What his capacity was? The Mossad has confirmed that Viktor Atrofsky is not a fraud.
00:33:13.980 He used to work for them.
00:33:14.980 OK, so, yeah, you got some evidence there.
00:33:17.480 Also, Ari Ben-Munash saying that, yeah, Epstein was brought to us.
00:33:21.740 He was supposed to involve him in weapons dealing, the Iran-Contra affair.
00:33:26.080 You know this, Pam Bondi, because the public knows this.
00:33:28.500 So if you're playing stupid, it means that you are now a part of the swap.
00:33:33.260 You're part of the deep state.
00:33:34.000 You are covering things up.
00:33:35.560 And they're trying even more distractions, releasing the MLK files.
00:33:41.000 Oh, we're going to now look into here's everything.
00:33:43.340 Here's a trove, tens of thousands of documents pertaining to the assassination of MLK.
00:33:47.780 As if we don't already know that the feds shot him.
00:33:51.880 Meant to be a distraction.
00:33:53.620 Actually love that MLK's daughter, Bernice King, tweeted this.
00:33:58.120 Check this out.
00:33:59.380 Now do the Epstein files.
00:34:01.740 No one is being distracted, you guys.
00:34:06.680 We all recognize what exactly is happening.
00:34:09.260 And it's a good thing.
00:34:10.580 Stay focused on this, because like I said, this is the thread.
00:34:13.780 This is the undoing.
00:34:14.740 This is the everybody's going to wake up very quickly to the tapestry of deception that has
00:34:20.620 been very carefully woven, especially my generation, the people that just, I would say, were baptized
00:34:28.500 in the liturgy of World War II, now beginning to ask some very important questions, which
00:34:34.380 demand answers.
00:34:35.220 And guess what?
00:34:35.780 We're not really feeling dissuaded by you crying and saying that we're not allowed to
00:34:39.540 ask these questions.
00:34:41.020 Actually, I would say it's almost further committing us to the cause.
00:34:44.640 What the hell happened?
00:34:47.860 How much have we been lied about?
00:34:49.580 And for how long?
00:34:51.100 And what is this unique, strange, disgusting, perverse relationship that we seem to have
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00:36:52.420 All right, you guys.
00:36:53.760 Let's see what is on your mind today.
00:36:57.300 A lot of stuff that we have just uncovered.
00:36:59.220 Very interesting stuff.
00:37:00.340 Marzi writes, did you hear about the guy who threatened to unalive people on the Epstein
00:37:06.000 client list?
00:37:07.100 He's being prosecuted by the DOJ.
00:37:09.120 And I thought that was weird because there is no list.
00:37:11.960 Yeah, I actually did hear about this.
00:37:13.660 And then he said, oh, wait, it's illegal to threaten politicians in the U.S.
00:37:16.300 Yeah, I have heard about this.
00:37:18.740 Here's the ABC article relating to that.
00:37:20.460 But yeah, a Florida man made death threats against people who he said were on the list.
00:37:25.280 And so they've arrested him.
00:37:26.420 And people are saying, hey, there is no list.
00:37:29.760 So who exactly did he threaten?
00:37:32.260 It is interesting.
00:37:33.260 They are kind of twisting themselves into a pretzel, having to explain everything.
00:37:37.680 Also, Zach Royden writes, love your work, Candice.
00:37:39.460 In your interview with E. Michael Jones, he said Protestantism comes from Satanism.
00:37:44.020 I attend a Protestant church.
00:37:45.540 I don't fully align with either side.
00:37:47.520 What's your view on gospel-believing Protestants?
00:37:50.700 So obviously, you guys know I can't judge because I was a Protestant not too long ago.
00:37:55.440 And what I would say is I very much accept now, on the other side of this thing, that the more that you study history, you move very quickly away from Protestantism because you start to notice that it has always been hijacked as a political movement.
00:38:11.380 And I hope that in watching this podcast series, as we cover a lot of these topics, that you'll start to realize how exactly Protestantism was hijacked for political sake.
00:38:23.140 And certainly, while we are covering the topic of Israel and we are seeing all of these churches and these ministers get on stage and don't listen to Tucker Cairns and Tucker and Cameris Owens, whatever, I'm being called out there.
00:38:35.420 You should go, OK, what is that?
00:38:36.780 That, obviously, what has gone on here?
00:38:39.600 And then there's like some common sense questions that I think like came online for me where I was just like, OK, there are so many different Protestant divisions.
00:38:45.820 Clearly, they can't all be correct, right?
00:38:49.540 They can't all be correct.
00:38:50.900 And it just seems to be splitting further and further and further.
00:38:53.680 And the more something becomes divided, I would say the more evil it becomes, right?
00:38:58.540 We should be aspiring to holiness, holy, things that are whole.
00:39:03.580 So there's a lot there.
00:39:05.120 Regarding E. Michael Jones, that sit down that we had talking about pornography, we are going to drop that onto Spotify on Friday.
00:39:11.360 It's a very important conversation that we've had.
00:39:13.440 E. Michael Jones.
00:39:15.820 Oh, we already uploaded it.
00:39:16.980 Sorry, I'm late.
00:39:17.680 Was that last Friday?
00:39:18.500 It is on Spotify already.
00:39:20.300 If you go to last Friday's episode, E. Michael Jones is on the ADL's list.
00:39:24.840 So I like him immediately because of that.
00:39:26.680 I feel like we actually should be using that list maybe almost as a guide to people that we should be listening to at this point since the ADL is just known to lie and smear.
00:39:35.740 And that's what they exist for.
00:39:36.600 They exist to defame people.
00:39:39.520 Rose K writes, Candace, I support Trump on many policies.
00:39:43.440 But he is wrong and lost my support on the Epstein files.
00:39:46.620 Children should always be protected.
00:39:48.280 Christ is king today, tomorrow and forever.
00:39:50.040 May God bless you in your journey for bringing truth to all.
00:39:52.960 I totally agree with you.
00:39:54.140 I think he's lost a lot of people.
00:39:55.480 Like I said yesterday, I think he's lost complete control of his movement.
00:39:58.020 And now the field is wide open for 2028.
00:40:01.780 I feel that the basically getting the kiss from Trump in 2028 is not going to mean what it should mean.
00:40:12.400 Right.
00:40:12.780 If Trump's like you should totally vote for this person, I think we're going to go.
00:40:16.080 I can't trust that anymore.
00:40:17.560 That's not going to be good.
00:40:18.160 That's going to be a figurative kiss of death because all of us are feeling that this is just crazy.
00:40:24.120 The amount of gaslighting, the lies, making us chase our tails, trying to make us chase our tails.
00:40:29.280 We're going to open up the grand jury indictment like they said yesterday.
00:40:32.560 That means nothing.
00:40:33.680 That means absolutely nothing.
00:40:35.040 And he knows it means nothing.
00:40:36.500 So what actually gives what is Trump on right now?
00:40:40.400 I agree with you.
00:40:41.880 Lou Casley writes, we do not have cyberbullying laws in the U.S. yet.
00:40:45.880 But I remember that Melania Trump was working on a cyberbullying platform in Trump's first term.
00:40:51.740 Yes, she was.
00:40:53.320 I don't think anything ever came of it.
00:40:55.840 I don't think she definitely I don't believe was trying to pass cyberbullying laws.
00:41:00.500 And so we are still marked safe from that.
00:41:03.140 Although you can say quite close happening on college campuses with these like speech laws, whether they were doing it for BLM or they're doing it now for Israel.
00:41:11.560 That is always something to pay attention to.
00:41:14.420 Will Wallace writes, Pam Blondie, we know you're watching.
00:41:17.820 If there's nothing to be seen, then prove it.
00:41:20.040 Release the nothing files.
00:41:21.700 Yes, release nothing files.
00:41:23.040 We would like those nothing files.
00:41:24.860 You're not protecting us.
00:41:25.720 Oh, it's just way it's way too sinister for you guys to see.
00:41:29.220 We can handle it, please.
00:41:30.760 We know that's not the reason that you guys are locking things down.
00:41:34.060 Crikey writes, Candace, do you believe that Bondi will hide info or suppress info if she does interview Maxwell?
00:41:40.580 Yeah, I think all of them are bad faith actors.
00:41:43.960 I trust nothing out of Ghislaine Maxwell's mouth, given the history of her family, the extraordinary history of her family.
00:41:48.980 And yeah, I think all of it, like I said, it's just one big show.
00:41:52.500 Like they are all putting on a performance right now.
00:41:54.400 They will do the absolute most to get us to just stop talking about it, which is why we should not stop talking about it.
00:41:59.460 Brandon Hamill writes, hey, Candace, I'm a fellow Connecticut resident, lived in Stanford my whole life, and went to West Hill High School.
00:42:05.660 One of the worst experiences of my life.
00:42:08.320 But I love you so much.
00:42:09.360 Keep doing you.
00:42:10.720 Shout out to all the Stanford residents.
00:42:12.880 I was Stanford High, Black Knights.
00:42:15.360 So yeah, West Hill, you guys were the enemy.
00:42:19.160 So the orange and the black versus the purple and yellow, or purple and gold, I think you guys were.
00:42:24.120 Thank you so much for supporting.
00:42:25.620 I haven't been back in a really long time.
00:42:26.840 It's just hard to fly into Connecticut.
00:42:28.100 That's what the issue is.
00:42:29.860 Anyways, you guys, what we have following this is book club tonight.
00:42:34.300 So if you've joined, we can go deeper on this topic of Epstein.
00:42:37.340 It feels like a lot of the dots keep connecting, especially as we finish wrapping Hollywood Babylon.
00:42:43.460 You guys have not yet subscribed.
00:42:44.560 This is going to be the last day that we cover Hollywood Babylon, and we're just kind of going to be recounting everything that we've learned in this book.
00:42:51.480 As we then jump into our next book, The Assault on Truth.
00:42:54.820 This is the perfect time to join.
00:42:56.140 You can head to CandiceOwens.com to join the book club.
00:42:59.580 If you're a parent, also, you can sign up to CandiceOwens.com and look at the Shot in the Dark series.
00:43:04.380 I think it's so important for every parent to watch that series when you have a child so you are steeled against the doctors who are lying about everything, in my view, when it comes to vaccines, at least obscuring the history of vaccines so that parents are arbitrarily fearful of diseases coming back.
00:43:23.080 And that series is definitely essential.
00:43:26.640 We are now moving into the birth control series, and that is something.
00:43:30.280 The history of birth control is dark, and it is demonic, which is exactly why, by the way, the Maxwell family is married into the contraceptive family, or was.
00:43:39.120 I think they end up getting divorced, but we'll cover that in the future.
00:43:42.760 Anyways, you guys, we will see you tomorrow.
00:43:53.080 We'll see you tomorrow.