The Great Exodus From Utah？ Where Did The ＂Egyptians＂ Go On 9⧸10？ ｜ Candace Ep 267
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Candace and Rob discuss why the Zionists are so upset that we reveal the license plate numbers of an Egyptian military jet that may have been tracking Charlie Kirk and Erica Kirk for years. And why are they so upset about it?
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Well, it sure as heck seems that this American pastor travels to Israel a lot.
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And he went there the other day to, of course, honor Charlie Kirk.
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And I want to just say, Zionists are confusing at best.
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They say Charlie was their bestest friend forever and ever.
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Yet, for whatever reason, they are deeply upset by this investigation.
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They are deeply upset that we revealed the license plate numbers associated with the Egyptian frequent flyers.
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It's almost like they know something that we don't.
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She hit me up this morning and she told me that actually the filing deadline,
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if you filed for an extension, which we can assume Turning Point did, was November 15th for this year.
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So their filing would have been due on Saturday, this last Saturday for Turning Point USA.
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And it is possible that they did file it on Saturday and maybe it's being processed.
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It would have been late beginning yesterday when we covered it.
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And of course, we will keep refreshing the IRS website and see whether or not that filing came through since the whole world wants to see it.
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Israeli and American Zionists are deeply bothered about the Egyptian plane.
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They're not concerned in the way that you think they would be.
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You would think that they would be, oh my gosh, thank you, Candace.
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We're very concerned to learn that these Egyptian military planes were tracking Charlie Kirk and Erica Kirk for years.
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We actually control a lot and we surveil a lot in that state.
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Rather, their concern is that we reveal the rental license plates.
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We've got Eyal Yacobi who writes, this is what doxing looks like.
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So basically what doxing is, if you're not familiar with that term, is it's when you put private information up about an individual that can become identifiable.
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So like if I published your private address and then somebody could go to your home and harm you.
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Now, this is the girl that was at the now infamous Hamptons retreat.
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Candace started her career by doxing teenagers.
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I just thought she, the Hamptons people, would be on this Egyptian thing trying to help as best they could.
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But they're actually more concerned for these Egyptians who were renting a car.
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And therefore, since they don't even go here, like why would this be identifying information?
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Now, going back to what we've learned about this flight thus far, I want to remind you that we have confirmed that this was a full flight over to Utah.
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This Egyptian flight, and I'm referring to BTT, SU-BTT, landed into Utah six days before Charlie Kirk's assassination.
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So we are looking at anywhere between 12 to 14, quote unquote, Egyptians that were on this flight and deplaned on September 4th.
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A high government source actually reached out and made me aware.
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And this is stunning, actually, that we missed this common sense.
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Well, they told me, this person in the State Department confirmed, that a foreign military jet actually can't just land on American soil without the federal government paying attention.
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I don't know how we didn't think of this ourselves.
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Of course, if you're a military jet, you can't just fly into foreign land and hop off the jet and be like, okay, bye.
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Of course, they're going to go, um, hi, are you, are we starting a war here?
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So this person tells me that, of course, that cannot happen.
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The government is immediately aware that this military equipped plane is coming in and an escort is provided because they want to know where they are going, what they are doing.
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So the question now is, and maybe Kash Patel can help us answer this.
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Who were the federal agents that escorted these Egyptians off the plane?
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Because they didn't just disappear into the other.
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You guys knew they were coming in and you watched them and you knew what they were doing in Provo.
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And by the way, while we're checking in on these unanswered questions, has Turning Point mustered the courage to answer my yes or no circle, yes or circle no, as to whether or not these Egyptian jets were known to Charlie?
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Because, like I said yesterday, it is highly plausible, highly likely that they were.
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He had a photographic memory and he loved planes.
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He would have recognized that that was circling around him a few times while he was on the road and circling around Erica.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I want to make it very clear.
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And I really hate to upset the Zionist crowd any further because I know I'm like your fave.
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But we now have identified a fifth verified rental plate that we can now add to the Egyptian mix.
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So that's a total of five rental cars that were rented by Duncan Aviation that we can review.
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Also want to thank the many of you who emailed us yesterday.
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And informed me that I apparently do not know the difference between the letter N and the number 9.
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I think I just was saying 9 or N every time I was reading these plates.
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Which means I'm probably not qualified to be homeschooling my toddlers.
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A third vehicle that we have here is a white 2023 Toyota RAV4.
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And we have a black 2025 Toyota 4Runner, Utah license plate.
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And we can now present to you guys a fifth car, which we know was rented.
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That is a gray or silver 2025 Toyota 4Runner, Utah license plate number Z349AA.
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Five vehicles which were secured by Duncan Aviation.
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Now, since I wasn't born yesterday, I feel pretty confident concluding that these 14,
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12 to 14 Egyptians didn't drop into Provo, Utah in the six days leading up to Charlie
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Kirk's assassination to fix like a broken light on the plane.
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Again, my source there is me not being born yesterday.
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You cannot just get something very quickly fixed in a couple of days and be on your way.
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And like I said, they weren't even on the plane on the way out.
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They waited for that anchor plane, S-U-B-N-D, the other Egyptian military plane, to take them
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What exactly were these Egyptians with the federal escorts doing on the day of Charlie
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Well, in terms of some potentially interesting leads, someone, many of you guys actually noted
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to us that the cars that were in the driveway in the now infamous footage of the alleged
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shooter, right, which was somehow distributed by TMZ, we don't know how that happened, should
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probably be investigated further because that's a lot of cars in the driveway.
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And obviously, every image that we have is blurred.
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It seems like we just can't get a clear image at all in this story.
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And so we cannot, it's impossible to discern anything, but it's therefore possible that
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some of those cars that we are looking at could be the rented vehicles, right?
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Maybe the one parked on the right, there is the Toyota RAV4, maybe the two that look similar,
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That would be something that perhaps Joe Kent and Tulsi Gabbard, who are warring, or at
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least that's what the press said, warring with the FBI or warring with Kash Patel, could
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look into because these are, this is Egyptian, okay?
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And I also want to add here something that I have always suspected that makes perfect sense
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to me, which would be the reason that UVU has denied every request, not just to release
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footage of the day of the assassination, but also to release footage of the days leading
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I think it's because the footage that we have seen, right, was recorded before September
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I always felt it was a distraction, person in the staircase, walking across the street
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I just felt that some of this footage was recorded in the days leading up, okay?
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And now, now that we know that those Egyptian planes came in six days before, six days before
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Charlie's assassination, it's possible that they could have staged some of that, which
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they eventually edited maybe a bit and released it to TMZ in that timeframe.
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What we do know factually, and we don't have to surmise, is that there were eyewitness accounts
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you may have lost, obviously a lot of stuff came out immediately, but what got lost in
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the fold was that there were eyewitness accounts of people having seen someone on that roof in
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There were students and allegedly a professor who reported seeing someone on the roof a week
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earlier, and I think we should try to track down these students.
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Of course, CNN, which ran this article, which I can show you here, didn't include their names,
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You can see it was published the day after the assassination, and it reads, Utah Valley
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University student recalls seeing man walking on or near Belazi Center roof twice in two
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And from that article, it says, a student says that he last saw the person on the roof last
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He told CNN that he reported his observations to the FBI tip line after the shooting, but
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The student described the man as tall, skinnyish, white dude with dark hair.
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He had a backpack on and was wearing dark clothes.
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He added that the man was looking down at the courtyard area where Kirk's speaking engagement
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I dug through all of our emails once I realized this and went, okay, maybe there's something
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We should probably look a little further into this.
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And I found actually that one of you guys had sent me a tip a while ago about this, and
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And I'm going to let you listen to this person's testimony.
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Uh, we didn't have much details a day after the shooting, and this individual was a student
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that is being interviewed by another student about what he observed in the aftermath.
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So, um, it's a, I think it's about a three minute recording.
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Let's listen to this observation because it could be important.
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Do you think it was last Tuesday or last Wednesday?
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And recount the first time meeting him and recount the second time meeting me, what you
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Do you remember, like, what time of day it was?
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Mid-afternoon, like, um, yeah, I guess I don't remember the exact day.
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Um, I know at least the second time was last week, either Tuesday or Wednesday.
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Um, so last Tuesday and Wednesday, but they were on separate days.
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Um, it may have been both last week, Tuesday and Wednesday.
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One of them might have been, like, the week before Thursday or something.
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But, um, yeah, like I said, it wasn't memorable and, or significant enough at the moment for
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Uh, had a, like, baseball cap on or some kind of hat, I think.
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Was it similar to what was seen in the pictures?
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Uh, and that's, that's kind of why I, you know, thought of that when I saw the pictures.
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Um, I, yeah, I guess I, I, I don't think I'd remember enough to really definitively say
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Um, I just know I saw a guy wandering around on the roof and the guy that I saw in the pictures
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But it was the same roof, um, of the same building.
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Well, I don't know exactly because it's, it's the, the computer science building has
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this long concourse that connects to the Wazi Center.
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Um, my bet would be that that's how the shooter got onto the Wazi Center roof because that's
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I guess there's also a ladder on the other side.
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As in that's how he got on yesterday or last week?
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Oh, well, last time I, I, I saw it and he came off of there.
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Okay, and you said he, like, jumped over the fence?
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Yeah, there's kind of a railing around, there's this, like, concourse sticking up in the CS
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building that people are actually supposed to be allowed to walk on.
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And he walked over that railing and started wandering around the ledge.
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Uh, he was totally looking out in the direction of, like, that fountain courtyard and, um, out
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this way, um, the first time I thought it was a little weird but didn't think much of
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it, decided not to say anything, especially because another, a guy, another guy walked back,
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I think it was a professor, I know I've seen him around a lot more, um, and he comes from
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Andy Lowe and he shouts up at the guy, he asks, like, are you okay?
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Um, the guy up there says, yeah, yeah, I'm doing fine, and the professor says, okay, and
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walks away, and I just, I kept walking because I had work to do, I didn't really.
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The second time I saw him do the same thing, he hopped the railing, started wandering around,
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I, I don't remember enough to say whether it was the same.
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It was definitely the same guy those two times.
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Okay, so we were able to figure out who the student was, I don't know why CNN declined
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to publish his name, but I was able to figure out who the student was, and I'm going to
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chase down this lead, and I want to open up that possibility, because it is a possibility
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that the stairwell photo and the footage that we have seen of the shooter was actually recorded
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In the absence, absence of quite literally anything verifiable the feds have given us, everything
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So I want to also open this up because I don't want to just hear it from one student or CNN.
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That would be something that you would remember.
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If you are a student and you saw someone up on the rooftop in the days or in the week
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leading up to the assassination, we want to hear from you.
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More tips at CandiceOwens.com because every time I have tried to chase down the leads regarding
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the rooftop, I am brought to a military person, and I just don't know that any of that actually
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And I think that's why they won't release any more footage.
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If this all happened on 9-10, there would have been multiple angles, and they sure as
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hell would have released it in the middle of a manhunt.
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When you thought that he could kill other people, you would have released more footage.
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And they're not doing that, which means they're hiding something.
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And something that they could be hiding could be nothing.
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It could be nothing that happened on that rooftop.
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Also, I want to add on here that regarding the white RAV4, we got a lot of emails from the
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public that have noted that there appears to be what might be a RAV4 in every available
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footage that we have been provided by of the shooter.
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So we've only seen four pieces of footage of the alleged shooter.
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One, of course, of him walking in front of, I think this was the house that Phil Lyman was at.
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The second piece of footage being the TMZ-released footage of somebody else in the neighborhood
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Footage number three is the footage of the alleged shooter pulling out in the parking lot, which
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was provided by Ryan Matta, that he chased down.
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And also, of course, the footage where he allegedly jumps off the rooftop.
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Many of you said it looked like there was a RAV4 pulling up.
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Is it also possible that this is just a coincidence?
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We have to explore every lead because the feds are not.
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Also, going to have a major, major, major scoop tomorrow about what's happening on the inside
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But we need to focus our attention on each and every plane that arrived in the aftermath
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of Charlie being shot, planes that took off and arrived.
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We were able to determine that that plane that departed Scottsdale at 8 local time and landed
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at about 10 a.m. local time into Provo was owned by a Turning Point USA donor, T.W. Lewis.
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Actually, Turning Point USA is featured on T.W. Lewis's foundation website as something,
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If you know who was on that plane and you are a Turning Point insider or maybe you were
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working in Scottsdale on that day at a terminal looking for a plane, again, that took off at
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about 8 a.m., I want to know who was on that plane.
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That is of interest to me because it wasn't Charlie and they got into Provo just ahead of
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I don't think the students are flying around on private planes.
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It'd be great if that foundation, T.W. Lewis Foundation, could help us out.
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For some reason, we keep coming up against the wall from Charlie's friends.
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OK, we're going to be right back because a Turning Point is dropping receipts kind of
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a little bit and talk about Blake Neff, who dropped a receipt, Brian Harpole, the security
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Well, Turning Point USA is finally dropping some receipts.
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But it's more than we've received thus far, which is nothing.
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First up, many of you guys pinged me regarding Brian Harpole, an interview that he did with
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Now, Brian Harpole is one of Charlie Kirk's long-term security members, team members.
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And on the day of the assassination, you'll recognize he's the guy that had the black strap.
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And he was standing to the front right of Charlie, kind of looking out at the audience.
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And he is the one who then runs over to Charlie.
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And again, you recognize him because he kind of has that small, supposed to be a medical
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Now, I have not watched this interview in its entirety.
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But from what I have seen thus far, it is just not that convincing.
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For one, Brian offers up that the lack of security on the rooftop can actually be attributed
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On Monday before, this correspondence went to Chief Long.
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We received this message today from the student group.
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There is a student roof access pretty close to where C.K. will be set up at the Utah Valley.
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The Sorenson Center has a couple of staircases that go up to walkways on the roofs.
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He comes back, and for edification, the Sorenson Center was the building in front of the Lucy Center.
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And so he comes back and he says, you want access to the roof.
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And came back and said, I was told students have access above us.
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If this is true, it would be nice to either have it controlled access or allow one of my guys
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He comes back, and his last correspondence was, I got you covered.
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When a command-level person from an accredited police department says, I've got this area.
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Okay, you know when you're like in school and you've got to hold your hand up because you
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really want a teacher to see you, I have an answer for what else you could have done.
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You could have followed up because it's your job and Charlie paid you millions of dollars
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Also, you asked the police chief an either-or question, and I'm just kind of like trying
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to understand the basic construct of sentences.
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It was an either-or question, either provide us access or get somebody up there.
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Millions and millions of dollars on his security annually, and you just said, hey, a student
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told us that there's a rooftop, and it would be good if we could have access to it, or if
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That is not an answer that should be accepted by anyone.
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By the way, Jeff Long also has a very extensive military career.
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I obviously have been very clear that I believe that this was a military-level assassination.
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Everyone on the ground that day, every witness, for some reason, this is not a military academy,
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but everybody that we can speak to that's somehow involved has an extensive military background.
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I'm not interested in Jeff Long's participation in this, but Brian Harpole sort of laments
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the fact that he won't speak up and people are losing their jobs.
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On the basis of that answer, you should all be fired.
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On the basis of that answer, you didn't have it within you to go, let me follow up and make
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sure that's been secured because that's my job.
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The fact that a student told you and you didn't know that, shouldn't you have told the student?
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Shouldn't you have said to the student, hey, we're looking at a map because it's amazing.
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It's 2025 and there's this thing called Google Maps.
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So we're actually looking at a map and we see where Charlie's going to sit and we're wondering
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about this roof. Could you let us know how we're supposed to access that?
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Why is the student and the chief leading the charge and not you when you are paid for executive
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Look, I've worked with Brian. Nice guy. That's a ridiculous answer.
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He should be fired. And I'm going to guess he's not going to be, but he should be fired.
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Of course, he should be fired. Elsewhere in the interview, he responds to the question of
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why they didn't at least have drone coverage on that day since they have flown drones, many
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drones, TPUSA events in the past. Here's his answer to that.
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In your coordination with UVU, I mean, did they offer any assistance, anything at all?
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Absolutely. So we come in and we start looking at things immediately like,
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where are our risks? You know, it's a risk assessment when we come in. That's why we get
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there. That's why we start doing the advance so early. We walk it, you know, we build it
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ourselves. And so initially we have, I spent thousands of dollars on drones last year and
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got the guy's license. But if the area lies in the Provo, Utah airspace, I can't fly it.
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That's a 107B. We can't break the rules. Right? And then you had secondary restrictions probably
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due to heavy foot traffic for the school. But I can't go in and break the rules. There's laws for
00:30:56.120
a reason. And then, and so now the school could have flown drones, the PD, but they didn't have
00:31:03.300
them. Right? And then, and then so, but Orem PD has a drone unit, active and professional. And that
00:31:10.840
police department, I will tell you right now, is awesome. They are, they get it. They, they were
00:31:16.820
there. They helped both on the soft side and the hard side. And so I started asking questions like,
00:31:23.080
you guys have a drone unit? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good, good. Do you have an MOU or a mutual
00:31:29.580
aid agreement with the school? And they're like, yeah. I said, did they call you and ask for
00:31:33.600
assistance? No. I'm like, why, why wouldn't you call?
00:31:41.100
I think that's your job. Like, am I crazy? Or is that his job? Is it his job to call and to see
00:31:50.660
things through if Charlie's paying him for executive level security? Like, is this how
00:31:55.160
these assassinations happen? Is that what's happening even like at the White House level
00:32:00.160
with the Thomas Crooks thing? Is that what happened? Like Secret Service just called locally in
00:32:05.620
Pennsylvania and was like, hey, that looks like trouble up there. Could you maybe get a guy up
00:32:10.680
there or let me know or if like whatever. And then they were just like, yeah, sure. Gotcha.
00:32:14.320
And they just figured it was accomplished. I don't accept any of that. You shouldn't accept
00:32:20.880
any of that, nor do I find him to be convincing. Right. The vibe I'm getting from that interview
00:32:27.240
is dishonesty. OK, I'd like to see more of your conversation, not this screenshot. It doesn't
00:32:33.340
prove anything other than that you started a conversation about the rooftop, that you were
00:32:37.920
aware there was an open open rooftop and didn't follow up in some measure. And so it's a little bit
00:32:43.360
ridiculous to be to be passing the buck. So thank you for the receipt. That wasn't actually a
00:32:48.900
receipt. Next up, we have Blake Neff. Obviously, you guys will recall Blake Neff was the Turning
00:32:55.900
Point USA employee that was standing directly next to supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Mikey
00:33:02.380
McCoy when the shots rang out. And he, Blake Neff, has similarly decided to drop a receipt. This happened,
00:33:09.980
and I think actually last week, of his actions on that day. Now, to jog your memory, he offered up
00:33:16.580
a pretty strong defense of the magnificent Mikey McCoy, who he says had a quivering lip. And I'm
00:33:24.820
going to let you listen to Blake's account of that day again as a reminder before we get to his
00:33:31.520
The shooting occurs. I am next to Mikey. Both of us hear a loud crack. We both turn. We both see
00:33:38.660
Charlie, who has been shot. Both of us, I think, at about the same time realize that that means
00:33:43.480
there is a shooter who is on the scene. And, you know, you just hear the crack. So you don't know,
00:33:49.960
did it come from far away? Did it come from close? Is there a mass shooter unfolding right now?
00:33:54.140
So I and him both had the reaction of, let's get out of here before we are both shot. That is not
00:34:00.460
us abandoning Charlie. Charlie had a security team. They all leapt immediately into action,
00:34:05.660
and they got Charlie out of there, which was what their job was to do. My job was not to get in the
00:34:10.800
way and screw this up because like I had to be a hero. That was not my job. I remember even running
00:34:16.240
past both of us going past the, you know, the SUV that we came in on and me thinking, should I get in
00:34:22.840
that car? And then thinking, no, that's a really stupid thing to do. And then I kept going. So I was
00:34:28.560
not with Mikey or I don't remember being with him. I think I was ahead of him as we left. And then we get
00:34:33.760
out and I run for must have kind of been more than 15 or 20 seconds. And then I realized there
00:34:40.320
hasn't been another shot. So the shooter has likely been detained or stopped or something,
00:34:44.660
not in immediate danger. I pause, I look around me and I see Mikey and I see Mikey there. And I'll
00:34:50.500
never, truthfully, I will never forget what I saw because I've seen Mikey almost every day for the
00:34:55.780
past two years. I know his personality very well. He's a very bubbly guy. He's a very happy guy almost
00:35:01.780
all of the time. And I'll never forget what I saw because it was clear in the moment that he was
00:35:08.520
profoundly freaked out. What I'll always remember is the way his lip was quivering, which I'd never
00:35:14.080
seen before. And you, you very rarely see from someone that he was freaking out. And then I think
00:35:19.980
he literally said to me, I might be imagining this, but I think what he literally said was he's, and then
00:35:24.720
he was looking around and then he says, I need to call Erica. And then he takes his phone and he
00:35:31.760
begins calling Erica. And I don't want to disclose how that call unfolded, but he did that, this,
00:35:38.460
you know, your mind extends all of this, but that is happening within a minute of all of this occurring.
00:35:44.320
I remember he calls Erica. I, around the same time I pull out my phone and I call my mom just to say,
00:35:49.860
mom, there's been a shooting. You're going to see it on the news. I'm okay. You know, pray for me.
00:35:54.860
I've got to go. And I remember that call. And I, around the time I, I put that phone away and then
00:35:59.540
he immediately calls his dad. He calls Robin McCoy and he says, dad, someone shot Charlie. You need
00:36:06.420
to call all of your pastor friends. Charlie was hit. We need everyone to pray right now. And that's
00:36:13.240
what he told him. And I guess it just, it's very disgusting for me as someone who witnessed this,
00:36:18.900
who saw Mikey hugely distressed and then step up in the moment. Because after that was called,
00:36:24.960
that call was over, I saw Mikey like get total mastery of himself that he realized he had to
00:36:30.780
step up in this situation. And he, from that point, he was like, he was like a general directing.
00:36:36.600
Yeah. He's a general. We know he's amazing. We love him. He's just the most magnificent thing
00:36:39.540
I've ever seen. It's stunning. It's brave. It's everything. It's every adjective I ever knew
00:36:42.960
and more. What's interesting there is that Blake and that thing had a back forth with somebody and
00:36:48.440
I want to be clear. I actually don't think Blake Neff is in on the corruption here. I don't know
00:36:54.800
why. I've just never gotten that vibe. I think he believes what he's saying. And like I said,
00:36:58.840
he is telling the truth as far as I can tell. Vibe check. Right. But what's interesting is he
00:37:05.940
allows us to now date or rather put some time markers here on how long the phone call was between
00:37:13.180
Mikey and Erica. Right. Because he drops a receipt on X. He's having a back forth spat with somebody
00:37:18.240
on X a few days ago or week ago. I don't remember. And he decides to drop his call log with his mom
00:37:24.760
or rather a screenshot of the call that he had with his mom. Now, remember, Blake is in Arizona now. So
00:37:29.380
this is going to say 1124. It's supposed to be obviously 1224 Utah time. We can show you that.
00:37:35.000
You can see he calls his mom and the call is 45 seconds long and the call begins at 1124.
00:37:42.620
So a story that he tells us is he's running for 20, 30 seconds or however long he said there is not
00:37:48.400
long. He stops, catches his breath. He sees Mikey. Mikey's got a quivering lip. Mikey looks at him and
00:37:52.860
he says, I've got to call Erica. And he says, Mikey calls Erica. And then I call my mom. And when he
00:38:00.040
terminates the phone with phone call with his mom, he says, Mikey then called his dad. Right. That's
00:38:06.220
the next thing that happens. It's a very short phone call. Right. That allows us to at least get a
00:38:12.580
sense of how this ran because we were because he's now confirming he called her first. Charlie was shot
00:38:18.380
at 1223. Right. So these are back to back phone calls. It actually if it happened this quickly with
00:38:26.620
this receipt, it's possible that Rob McCoy did think he was the first person that was called
00:38:31.760
because Rob McCoy is getting called at 1224 or 1225. This is all happening within two minutes.
00:38:37.400
Right. These phone calls are flying within two minutes. Right. That means when he terminates that
00:38:41.160
call, it's what, 12. When you start a phone call, Mark, you can chime in here in a mansplain if you
00:38:46.480
know the answer. When you're looking at his his screenshot there, is that telling us when the call began
00:38:51.860
or when the call terminated? It's when the call is initiated. When the call is initiated. So it's
00:38:56.880
possible 45 seconds later, he's now in the 1225 and now Mikey's calling his dad. That's very
00:39:02.500
interesting. That's just another data point that we at least have there. Moving on to the pastor,
00:39:09.840
America's pastor, Rob McCoy. I just think in general, by the way, I want to give a shout out to Calvary
00:39:14.420
Chapel because I knew nothing about Calvary Chapel before this investigation. These pastors are doing
00:39:20.320
the absolute most. I have never seen such an obvious and naked propagandist campaign in my life
00:39:28.700
than me exploring the Calvary Chapel church movement. So America's pastor, Rob McCoy, was in
00:39:36.920
Jerusalem on November 16th, apparently. A couple of days ago, he was at an event. It was built as a
00:39:42.060
celebration of the life of Charlie Kirk. And what better way to celebrate the life of Charlie Kirk
00:39:47.560
going to take questions from the audience about, you guessed it, Tucker Carlson and Camrys Owens.
00:39:54.180
Take it away, Israel. We see people like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens and these people are
00:40:01.920
essentially trying to hijack the Christian message and spread an anti-Israel message in the name of
00:40:10.840
Christianity. And they're perverting this Judeo-Christian brotherhood and ethic by essentially promoting
00:40:19.040
Jew hatred, but putting a Christian label on it. What can we do to push back? And what can the church do
00:40:27.560
to be able to just completely repudiate that kind of dishonesty and perversion of what Judeo-Christian
00:40:44.300
We've gotten into this situation with that generation of young people because they have
00:40:50.060
all been raised by Caesar and we're wondering why they become Romans. We have abdicated our public
00:40:57.400
school system to secularism. And it's the red-green revolution where you take away with secularism the
00:41:05.300
moral foundation. And then you come in with whether it be Islam or ethno-nationalism because we've
00:41:13.500
gone through critical race theory, diversity, equity, and inclusion. We've taken white males and put them
00:41:18.080
at the bottom of the totem pole. We've mocked them and embraced the stupidity. And now we're upset that
00:41:23.980
they feel as though they've been, you know, relegated to obscurity. And now they're signing on with these awful
00:41:37.280
So it's interesting to think about them discussing how we need to be re-educated. Again, kind of like
00:41:44.460
the Robert Maxwell campaign, like we had to have the Holocaust education. And I want you to imagine
00:41:49.540
a world where Calvary Chapel churches get to decide how we're educated because somebody sent me an actual
00:41:54.760
magazine that they have. Again, I'm new to the Calvary Chapel thing that's happening. I knew they were
00:41:59.140
behind a lot of the attacks against me and Tucker Carlson this year, but I hadn't realized that how,
00:42:03.760
like I said, naked and propagandist this is. This is this month's issue of Calvary Chapel magazine.
00:42:11.140
Apparently they have their own magazine and this is not parody. This is Judeo-Christianity. This is the
00:42:18.040
cover of Calvary Chapel magazine from this month. And it says, stand with Israel. It tells the story
00:42:26.480
of surfer to shepherd. I guess that's somebody's story. And then you have there a subtitle. I guess
00:42:32.480
we're going to be able to read this article in there. Why Jews are hated. You go to your church
00:42:37.320
on Sunday and this is what they are handing out. Now, the person who sent me this then showed me
00:42:41.660
what was inside, which is even more amazing. Here we go. Here we are learning about Christianity. Oh,
00:42:46.980
actually, it's a photo of IDF soldiers wearing yarmulkes coming home.
00:42:50.920
Um, and it has a quotation here that said, God began to paint a prophetic portrait of the Messiah.
00:43:00.080
I just want to know how this happened, I guess. I don't know. I was asleep. I didn't know this was
00:43:06.760
going on. I didn't understand that this is, they have so many mega churches everywhere, everywhere
00:43:13.060
across America. And they basically exist to convince Christians to worship the IDF. I just
00:43:21.080
find that to be quite strange. Let me know if I'm out of pocket here and you really think that this
00:43:26.500
is not propagandist and that you're learning Christ's message, um, when you line up and you get
00:43:32.460
handed stuff like this. I don't know. I just feel like that for me is something that we need to talk
00:43:36.960
about more because it's pretty obvious what happened here. And of course, BB Netanyahu is involved in
00:43:42.080
the Calvary Chapel churches. We're going to get to that tomorrow. His relationship with Bob Coy,
00:43:46.600
not to be confused with, uh, Pastor Rob McCoy, but Bob Coy, the one from Fort Lauderdale who got into
00:43:54.700
a little bit of a scandal with sexual abuse. Again, we'll get into that tomorrow. Uh, before we, uh,
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get into comments, when we get into comments, rather, I'm going to tell you, finally answer that
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So we all know, of course, that Charlie's dear friends, the Zionists and the donors who love
00:47:48.160
Charlie lost their ish at the Turning Point USA SAS event last July when Tucker Carlson hit the stage
00:47:55.400
and Charlie told Tucker Carlson to go max. Tucker Carlson went max. And by max, I mean just said
00:48:00.400
like basic American principles, like we shouldn't be worshiping Israel, that the Epstein files should
00:48:05.240
be released, and that obviously our relationship is not America first with Israel. And that caused a
00:48:12.500
donor meltdown. It was like a last straw. We have showed you the data points. We have showed you
00:48:16.960
the timeline. That's where things start to get a little dicey with Charlie. And I think it's very
00:48:22.260
relevant. Anyways, I had mentioned to you that there was, because everybody's mic'd up. I told
00:48:26.720
you all this was mic'd up. Obviously, Meg and Kelly happened to have that footage, but they have that
00:48:32.440
footage with like full clarity of exactly what Charlie said to Tucker Carlson. And they have the
00:48:37.960
footage of the donors who freaked out, at least the audio of the donors who freaked out. I told you
00:48:43.100
about a woman who yelled and took away a million dollars because of the Tucker Carlson speech.
00:48:50.300
That woman was Joyce Chernick. Joyce Chernick is married to Aubrey Chernick. He's a software tech
00:48:57.600
billionaire guy. They fund a variety of pro-Israel causes through the David Horowitz Foundation. So
00:49:04.580
that was another donor who went, bye-bye, Charlie. How dare you let Tucker Carlson say things?
00:49:09.640
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00:49:39.640
on Thursday. I don't know if I even told you guys that. I think we sent out an email, but telling
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you this for the first time on the show, that we bumped it to 6 o'clock Eastern on Thursday. So
00:49:50.260
no Book Club tonight. We'll have it at 6 p.m. Eastern on Thursday. Top comment from yesterday's
00:49:55.300
episode is from Abby Sloan. She writes, I don't think they realize that if Candace had an audience
00:50:00.360
of one, she would still be doing this investigation. Amen. Yes, I would still be doing this investigation.
00:50:07.580
And sometimes these investigations do have to be done with an audience of one. Definitely a lot
00:50:12.720
of times in the past before people were more dialed in to the fact that there is something
00:50:16.960
tremendously evil going on in this country. And our feds are not interested in discovering that evil
00:50:22.120
because they are a part of the evil. I think we all accept that. Not just in this country,
00:50:25.960
worldwide, right? There's something about the Charlie Kirk assassination that we spiritually already
00:50:30.880
recognize has international implications. That's very clear. And it will become more clear in the coming
00:50:37.280
weeks as I continue to roll out information. We don't do everything very quickly because this is
00:50:42.820
a game of cat and mouse. And we need to know where the snakes are. We need to know where the rats are on
00:50:47.860
the ship. And there are a lot of them. And we are getting closer. I think I can confirm to you guys
00:50:55.840
that there is mass panic over the show. I guess they thought they were going to get away with it. They
00:51:00.220
were hoping that they had successfully fostered this ADHD culture where people are just unable to pay
00:51:06.480
attention to anything, right? Not even like a Netflix show can they pay attention to long term.
00:51:11.460
So they were hoping, OK, we're going to do this thing at the Staples Center and then move on from
00:51:15.340
it. And actually, it turns out the world is focused and they're locked in. And the feds are not going
00:51:21.280
to get away with it. That is what I can say. They are not going to get away with it this time.
00:51:25.020
OK, getting into your comments today, Jennifer writes,
00:51:27.200
It's official. I am a conspiracy theorist. Ask questions. Seek the truth. Thank you,
00:51:31.880
Candice. We don't know. No, but we know. Why follow Erica? Who was on the planes? We're being
00:51:36.940
lied to and I don't like it. I am glad that CK has you to ask the right questions and get some
00:51:41.700
answers. Yeah, I saw you guys in a lot of you guys in the chat asking why these particular planes were
00:51:46.100
following Erica. I have an indication as to why. Of course, I want to thoroughly vet that and to make
00:51:53.540
sure that I ask the right people to confirm the things that we are looking at. But I have an
00:51:58.720
indication as to why that may have been. Just common sensing it writes Rep Massey Green, any
00:52:04.740
Republican or Democrat representative that is watching, please put forth a bill to end foreign
00:52:08.600
and domestic lobbying. It's the only way we have a shot at a government that does not put foreign and
00:52:13.020
big corporation interests before ours. Yes, you are correct. Don't forget that when JFK tried to put
00:52:21.600
an end to that. Well, I guess rather put an end to the Israel exception that we now have by making
00:52:27.740
them sign up and acknowledge Farah to follow the Farah. They shot him. Who is they? Who is they? I
00:52:35.480
don't know, but it ended up being reversed. So we should not accept that. We should not accept
00:52:41.020
lobbying full stop, but we certainly shouldn't accept this sort of Israel exception, which is they
00:52:46.200
do not have to certify anything under Farah. Obsessed Sports writes, if the planes are truly
00:52:52.780
from the Egyptian government, would that mean their passengers and cargo would have diplomatic
00:52:56.500
immunity and allow them to do illicit activities, espionage, weapons, trafficking, etc., without much
00:53:01.460
oversight? You are on the right track. Certainly there are a lot of implications with why this plane would
00:53:11.100
be allowed in and the federal government would escort it and then everyone would play dumb when Candace
00:53:16.560
mentioned this flight being on the ground. It's interesting. Definitely more questions than
00:53:22.980
answers, but we will have answers for you guys. Kayla Ferris writes, several people said there was a lot of
00:53:28.000
vehicles at the home of the alleged shooter around the week before the shooting, right? That's another tip.
00:53:32.500
You are correct, and I should explore that. They all said it was strange because they never had company
00:53:37.000
over. You are absolutely correct, and I can try to hunt that down and see what I come up with for you
00:53:44.380
guys tomorrow. Renee writes, talk to the neighbors. They were complaining about many cars parked that
00:53:49.080
residence. Possibly ring cameras will show the footage of those vehicles. I would imagine Cash has taken
00:53:53.920
everything. They were making sure they had secured everything under the guise of trying to discover who
00:54:01.540
murdered Charlie. Obviously, they were cleaning things up, but we can try. If you guys have
00:54:07.520
footage, that would be great. Again, we want to see the days leading up, so a relevant time frame would
00:54:12.680
be from 9-4 up until 9-10 looking for these vehicles, these five vehicles that we have now shown you.
00:54:20.560
L. Hodges writes, I find it insane how influencers, Tim Poole, were speaking up against you
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regarding Turning Point USA and you no longer being invited to AmFest. Apparently, he said
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something hurtful, and they said he can't go. Weird. I am not following what Tim Poole has been
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saying. I know that he was kind of, he always kind of throws shade about me investigating things. I did
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see a clip on X that when we started this investigation of him saying people were doing
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it for clicks, which is just, I have no response to that. It's just, I can't think of more things that
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were done for clicks and for money than selling t-shirts of what he died in, making $70 million.
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I have not sold anything with Charlie's face or Charlie's name. I have kept up my job, which was
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always investigating, as I've been doing this entire year, the last two years. Authentically
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Magnetic writes, Wildtow Candace stays 10 steps ahead while everyone else is still reacting to
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yesterday's news. And I can't win with these people. They say I have no proof and I present proof
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and they accuse me of doxing. They say I have no proof and then I drop the text messages and they're
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like, how dare you share the private text messages? They're just lying. They are lying and I am telling
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the truth. That's it. That's what's happening right now. Twins vs. Twins writes, can we get a book that
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is not signed? Yes. Makehimasandwich.com has the unsigned books. Makehimasandwich.com has the unsigned
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books. I hope that helps you out. And you guys, thank you. Again, we're working on a very,
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very big lead tomorrow that I believe that we should be able to present tomorrow. As we begin
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to sort through all of the planes that were flying on that day, who was on each plane is now very
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relevant. As we take a look at this picture of why this SU-BND jet might have been transponding
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without moving at Duncan Aviation. So stay tuned and we'll see you tomorrow.