The Past Is Prologue： Why Charlie Kirk Was Murdered ｜ Candace Ep 287
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1 hour and 24 minutes
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166.75583
Summary
On September 11th, 2001, Charlie Kirk was scheduled to speak in Woodland Park, Colorado at the Cherise Bible College. On the day of the event, a gunman opened fire on the event and killed him. Did the police have a plan in place to ensure the event was secure?
Transcript
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All right, you guys. Happy Thursday. Sorry I am running late. I was just doing so much research. I have so much to tell you all today. So we have to jump right into this because I actually have a horror story for you, an actual real-life horror story for you.
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So someone called me last night and told me a very strange story about what happened to her back in the 90s at an evangelical university.
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But first, we have to revisit Brian Harpole's story about how far in advance they typically plan security because someone has leaked to me another glaring oddity in this security protocol.
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Let's jump right back in. Welcome back to Candace.
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Do you know what I think? I think that whoever made the decision for Brian Harpole to sit down with Sean Ryan made a terrible mistake.
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Big PR mistake. PR nightmare. That's kind of been the story here. One long, bad PR decision after the next.
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Because the issue is Brian said too much. The internet is meticulous. The internet is clocking them every sentence.
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It's really easy to catch people in inconsistencies and then to keep replaying what they said about certain things, especially when they don't add up.
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So I would like to gently remind you all back at home what Brian Harpole said about what typical preparations entail for Charlie Kirk events. Take a listen.
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Let's move into the threat assessment and the pre-planning for the event.
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We generally have the permitting process and all that goes on behind the scenes.
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And then there's a questionnaires that are filled out that we used to, there was a lot of busy work.
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And then so, you know, kind of like in the military, what you did, we create forms that, hey, let's get this information up front.
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And so that we have a duplication process so that we can confirm it.
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And so we started our first before that one, the 24th of the month prior.
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And so, and that was with the hard conversations, meetings.
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No, it started before that with the intelligence gathering and all that.
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But the hard conversations, the sharing of information, the conference calls, the data sheets.
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And we put that in a timeline on an app so that this all goes up and every guy that's on that job can see all the intel that comes in.
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It's a decentralized command model for the company.
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And so anybody can make command decisions for the betterment of the client or the team.
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And whoever's gathering that intel, it gets it.
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And so that first information came in on the 24th.
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And then the information share starts where we're walking through, you know, everything that you need for a detail.
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Everything that you need for a detail, obviously, elsewhere in the interview, he describes this conversation that he had with the chief of police.
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He's upset about the chief of police not covering the rooftops because he feels that his team was on it.
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You're coordinating with the whole police departments.
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Well, interestingly enough, I received a tip from someone that was directly involved with the planning of an event that Charlie Kirk was supposed to attend the following day.
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On September 11th, the day after his assassination, Charlie was slated to speak in Woodland Park, Colorado, Colorado at the Cherise Bible College.
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And according to this person, after Charlie got assassinated, there was a bit of a panicked meeting that took place, which was headed by the chief of police.
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They decided to transform this event into a vigil.
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And they were panicked because, believe it or not, they had absolutely no security plan in place.
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Now we better consider this, and we need to make sure that we have police officer involvements.
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Why didn't Dan Flood and Brian Harpole and Turning Point USA's security have any coordination with the police departments up in Colorado?
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If this is what they normally do, and, you know, the way he overdescribes that, and they get the plan, and everybody can access and start to begin to speak, and then we speak to the police, and then we do all this stuff.
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We just didn't think to do that for the event that he had the next day.
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No police officer involvement scheduled, nothing.
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Suddenly they're panicked because they realize they don't have anything scheduled.
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So the police chief apparently decided to take measures himself to make sure that the vigil went off without a hitch.
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When you lie a lot and when you're planning things you're not supposed to be planning, you don't think through every detail.
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If you expected Charlie to make it to September 11th, you would have been communicating about what he was doing up at the Therese Bible College.
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Anyways, moving on to other news, I want to show you this working Excel sheet that I quickly put together today, so it is by no means perfect, but I was telling you that throughout this investigation, I have noticed some recurring themes that have come up.
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I still don't know what all of it means, but I wanted to start jotting this down and putting it together so that it looks clean and we can just add another name every time a name comes up in any of these categories.
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This isn't how you're really supposed to use Microsoft Excel, but it's how I'm using it so that it looks neat.
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If you just look over here at the columns, these four themes that I'm identifying, and I'm going to add more, Liberty University, Eastern Europe, trafficking and child sex abuse, and then in that final column, military.
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These are just themes that I recognize keep coming up.
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So Liberty University, very quickly going through this, Tyler Boyer attended and he graduated.
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Mikey McCoy was accepted into Liberty University, but then he chose not to attend because he got the job at Turning Point USA instead and he went direct there after high school.
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It should be noted that his father, Rob McCoy, met Charlie Kirk via Jerry Falwell Jr.
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He was the president of Liberty University until there was a sex scandal fallout.
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And Andrew Colbett, I'll tell you what his connection is.
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Andrew Colbett was working PR for the Kairos company under Johnny Moore.
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Johnny Moore was the lead pastor at Liberty University prior to then leaving Liberty University to start the PR firm.
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And Johnny Moore is an important name for those of you who watched.
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Tucker Carlson had interviewed someone in the military.
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He was speaking about what was happening in Gaza, how children were literally starving, how children were being shot at for fun.
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And bizarrely, they decided that Johnny Moore, Reverend Johnny Moore, is it Reverend Johnny Moore?
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He was somehow equipped to lead the Gaza Humanitarian Fund.
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Essentially, you're going to distribute your organization.
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You're going to be the head of distributing the food to the children of Palestine, the families of Palestine.
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And so he does a lot to say, I have no idea why he got this position.
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Anyways, I wanted to let you know who that Johnny Moore was.
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He's a PR guy like Andrew Colbett who was under him.
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And then Andrew Colbett leaves Kairos and decides to mint his own PR firm.
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That's really just around Charlie Kirk, really, as his only client.
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In case you don't know this, what happened was Jerry Falwell Jr. and Charlie Kirk decided to come together to establish the Falkirk Center.
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This was actually Turning Point USA, the precursor Turning Point USA, right?
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They start discussing putting this together, the Falkirk Center.
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And then Jerry Falwell has this huge sex scandal.
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So he's forced to step down from Littlebury University.
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And now this project just, they go, we can't go far with this.
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By the way, at that time, Erica Fransby, because her and Charlie were not yet married, they were dating.
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They were kind of hitting the road together and working to make the Falkirk Center a thing.
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And so what happened after it fell apart was that they decided to instead create Turning Point Faith.
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That's important for you to know that, this origin in Liberty University, because I'm going to tell you more in a bit.
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Now, regarding Eastern Europe, remember that plane, that sort of mysteriously, people thought it turned off its transponder.
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They issued a statement saying they didn't turn off their transponder.
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And then he said, we were just picking people up.
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Well, I'm putting that under because in investigating that, I determined that, oh, interesting.
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That plane, pardon me, was formally registered in Romania back in 2013.
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The tail number was then Y-R-N-V-Y, almost looks like Navy there, Y-R-N-V-Y.
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And then in 2015, so from 2013 to 2015, that plane was registered in Romania.
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I'm just telling you that this is when these things have come up.
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Obviously, we know that Erica Kirk began the Romanian Angels Project in late 2012, early 2013.
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And obviously, you have seen all the TikToks describing the scandal.
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And to explain that to you, just to kind of separate the myth from the facts of this,
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The facts are that Lori Fransfee established the Everyday Heroes Foundation,
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That was established in Arizona under Erica's mother's name, Lori Fransfee.
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What they decided to do, as charities do, is that they develop certain projects and certain missions.
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And what spun out from Lori's charity was the Romanian Angels Project.
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They worked with the military in Romania to help orphans, okay?
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Now, it is a fact that they worked with, at that time, Colonel Otto Buscher.
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Colonel Otto Buscher was then accused of running a brothel with young children,
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taking them onto the military base for himself, his sexual needs.
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A woman filed in Romania and said, this is what's actually happening.
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These children are going onto the base, and they're being prostituted to military men.
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So, it was not, there is no articles that say Erica Fransfee or Lori were involved in this,
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but it is a fact that they were working on the Romanian project with Colonel Buscher.
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And then Colonel Buscher gets accused of running a Romanian brothel with Romanian children.
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In 2011, Tyler Boyer also went to Romania to work with the Romanian government.
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I am still trying to determine exactly what he was doing with them.
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In 2013, Tyler Boyer posted a photo of himself with a Ukrainian orphan named Natalia.
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She doesn't, he says in the post, or his wife says in the post, current wife says in the post,
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And he claims to be helping through an adoption agency program, helping her because he speaks Russian.
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She is 12 years old, and she's an orphan from Ukraine.
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She's staying with my friend, Aubrey, and her family for the holidays through an adoption agency program.
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She does not speak English, so Tyler was able to go and talk with her in Russian for over an hour tonight.
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She was shy at first, but by the end of the visit, she was hugging him and asked him not to leave.
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It was a wonderful yet heartbreaking experience.
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All at the same time, it makes me so grateful for all that we have.
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Thank you to the OBS report for letting us be a part of Natalia's day.
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Next, we have Turning Point USA, obviously, working with Pastor Greg Laurie,
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despite Harvest Church being accused of trafficking children from Romania.
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People say, yeah, it's exactly what you were doing.
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We don't have a verdict on that because that's happening currently.
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Andrew Colvett's brother, Curtis, is currently stationed in Romania as a lieutenant colonel.
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We have Tyler Boyer, who holds a degree in Russian studies and is fluent in Russian,
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which is similar to Astrid Tuminez, by the way, the president of UVU.
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She also holds a degree in Russian studies and is fluent in Russian.
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Rob McCoy, I don't know if you knew this, but he adopted a 12-year-old girl named Natalia.
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She now goes by Natasha from Russia around 2006.
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Now, regarding trafficking, sex abuse, N88KG, which is now currently owned by Derek and Shalane
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Maxfield, they run Sapria, which is a child abuse charity.
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Not, you know, they're helping children that have been abused, a sex abuse charity.
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And then I told you guys about Colonel Otto Buscher, who was accused of running a brothel
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with Romanian children from 2011 to 2015 at a Romanian military base in Romania, I should say.
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And yes, he worked with Romanian angels during that time period.
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A civilian commander, sorry, stationed at Fort Huachuca.
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A civilian commander that was stationed at Fort Huachuca, David Fraudsham, was charged with
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As I told you, they are currently embroiled in a trafficking scandal.
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George Zinn was arrested, and then it was determined that he had pornographic images.
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And as I told you, he told people at the hospital that he was treated at that he would be paid
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Now, he didn't know where the money was coming from, but all he had to do was jump up and
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Andrew Piscadlo, you might remember that name because early on, pictures were circulating
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of him, and people thought that he could have been the shooter because he was wearing the
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suits, and people thought he maybe had a weapon in his bag.
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He was a photographer, not hired by Turning Point USA.
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But he has rang the alarm before on military Ukrainian sex trafficking that is happening
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If you go through his Instagram, he has said this is what's happening.
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Currently, they are trafficking children from Ukraine, and he did some investigation into
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So that came up when I was looking into him early on.
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Obviously, I've covered extensively Cavalry Chapel Church, riddled with pastor abuse stories.
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And then, obviously, we know Rob McCoy was trying to rehabilitate somebody who actually
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He said he found the Lord and decided to put him into homes with children via Cavalry Chapel.
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There's a lot of rehabilitating people who have an issue with abusing children, I would
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And I'm putting Glenn Beck and Tim Ballard's operation underground here.
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Actually, I learned about Operation Underground.
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That was introduced to me by Marissa Strait over at PragerU.
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She asked me to interview Tim Ballard before he had to step down from the charity, which
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was a child trafficking charity dedicated to rescuing children from being trafficked in
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Glenn Beck was the initial investment, as the story was told to me when I was at PragerU.
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When I interviewed him, obviously, we know Glenn Beck has interviewed Erica Kirk.
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We know that Glenn Beck, also his children, were there at UVU when Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
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He was one of the first people to speak out about that on the news on September 10th.
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And Tim Ballard's name strangely came up when we were looking into Phil Lyman.
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And we learned that he paid Tim Ballard a visit in the days following the assassination, which
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was just Tim Ballard's name coming up, which was interesting to me because I was like, oh,
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There's a lot of that, just a lot of that happening.
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And also, I should mention Derek and Shalane Maxfield, who run this abuse charity.
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In their profile pictures, they were wearing an Operation Underground shirt.
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So people are very passionate, I would say, about trafficking and putting together organizations
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Now, in terms of our military connection, it is extensive.
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Like I said, this is by no means a definitive list.
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Andrew Colvett's brother and cousin are captains in the military.
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Curtis Colvett and Robert Colvett, Rob McCoy's father, Roy Edgar McCoy, ran psychological operations
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for naval intelligence to shape public perception.
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His son, Danny McCoy, is currently in the military.
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And yeah, he had a whole naval fleet named after him, actually.
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We obviously know Erica Kirk has been open about the fact that her mother and her father do defense
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It's why she moved to Arizona in the first place, because they had contracts with the
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DOD, and we know that her father has worked with Raytheon.
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The Farmsworth family has extensive military connections.
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I will add more about that later, and we will cover that later, because the Farmsworth family
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Dr. Frank Turek was a naval flight officer for eight years.
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His son, Frank Turek III, is a deputy officer, deputy division chief, pardon me, at the joint
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He was on the phone with, I think he said both of his sons, FaceTiming with both of his
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Maybe it's one of his sons he was FaceTiming with.
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The Hades military plane, which we haven't discussed too much, but I promise you will
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get there, inexplicably flew this route around UVU on the day of the assassination, just before
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and just after, which is interesting because that plane in particular has a lot to do with
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Again, we'll get more into that in a future episode.
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Dr. Lee Trotter did his residency on an Air Force base, and he also has his pilot's license.
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The Utah medical examiner, Dr. Deidre Amaro, is a major.
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Butch Hibbs, we have Jack Hibbs, their father, Butch Sr., military background, and I suspect
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Butch Hibbs also perhaps is involved in the military himself.
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We are looking for something a bit more concrete on that.
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Now, I want to present that to you because I want to focus on building that so you can
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But today, we're going to talk more about Liberty University because I received a very
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interesting set of tips about Liberty University.
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Particularly yesterday, I was contacted by someone.
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Well, actually, I should say I spoke to someone yesterday.
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I was contacted by them many times via email pleading for me to call.
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It wasn't really clear to me as to why there seemed to be a panic.
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She was seemingly triggered by a video regarding Trump pageantry.
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The video in question is not controversial, and she has no connection to the person in
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the video, which was Erica Kirk, simply discussing how she got involved with the Trump pageant
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Hence why I was not exactly seeing the big picture.
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She had nothing to say about how Erica knew Trump pageants, but her speaking about it
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Anyways, after a lot of back forth, I decided to just call her.
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I had some time yesterday to see why Trump pageantry in general was so triggering to her.
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And she began to tell me a story that was quite unbelievable at first until I did some research.
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This woman, whose identity I am going to protect at this moment, was a young teenager in the
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90s, and she had landed herself in a bit of trouble.
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She wound up with a probation officer, and she also got pregnant, and they essentially told
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her, hey, you know, you're either going to get your life together, sort of this ultimatum.
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We could send you to juvie, or you could go away, and we'll give you an opportunity here.
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There's this amazing new program that's being run out of Liberty University, which helps
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So obviously, they made the decision for her to take the option.
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It's like when the judge says, hey, you can go to rehab, or you can go to prison.
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So she chose to go down to Lynchburg, Virginia, while she was pregnant, to live in a house with
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other troubled girls who were being helped through a program that was known as the God
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Effectively, they help these young women who are struggling with various other things, but
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particularly with her and the women that she was sharing rooms with, their pregnancy journey.
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And they offer to help place their children into adoptive Christian homes, should they choose
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That seems like, you know, the Christian spirit, pro-life, and don't have an abortion.
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Instead, we can have a home for your child to be raised in.
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But things got pretty weird after that, and I want you to listen to what she told me in
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And yes, I have her permission to share this conversation.
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I'm sorry if this sounds, you know, not too clear.
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It's going to be quite long, but it's very important.
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When I got to the Liberty Godparent Home, which is what took me in, in, like, 94, they used
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I didn't have no visitors because I didn't have any family there, of course.
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And then I didn't have no family there, so I didn't have nobody.
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And then, his face looked familiar, but he looked older now.
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But, like, Jerry Followers, Senior, was the one actually taking the photos?
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But another thing weird about it is I never thought about, like, what happened the night
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And I think about it now, it's all weird to me.
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But then, it wasn't because I was only 13, 14 years old.
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I want to go back to, so what was weird about that night that you gave birth?
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Okay, so they have a mother, a house, a live-in mother, 24 hours.
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I called there, like, a month and a half ago, two months ago.
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I called there right after I prayed I called there because this video of Erica came up
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And I was like, how in the world did I get invited?
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And to this day, I still don't know how in the world I got invited to that and what pictures
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Okay, so you had the baby, and what was weird about that night?
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Okay, the night before, they, okay, like I said, they have house mothers, and I can't
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remember details, but I remember them doing, you know, putting the probe on, listening to
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the heartbeat, pretty much, and looking at, you know, doing the ultrasound.
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Okay, to this day, I've had, you know, four other kids planning an ultrasound, so I know
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what they were doing was funny to me, because everything was fine that night, and then they
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moved me, which was weird, they moved me to another room by myself.
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There's all these girls, different girls there, and some of them don't even speak English,
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How, how old are, um, uh, sorry, how, how many girls live in that house?
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Um, back then, there was about, like, between 12 and 15 on one house, but you're talking
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anywhere from age 12 to, like, 21 years old, you know.
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Um, I didn't get that, my mom's the youngest, but.
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Yeah, um, there was a couple girls, you know, they didn't speak English, but we weren't allowed
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to, that's another thing, we weren't allowed to, like, talk to the other girls, we were
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only allowed, like, certain girls were on one, one certain side of the hallway, certain
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girls were on the other certain side of the hallway, back then we had to either call collect
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They didn't, they didn't want us to use the regular phones.
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They treated us like slaves, but the next morning, it's like they knew something was
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going to happen to my baby or something, because the next morning, I all of a sudden didn't
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have a heartbeat, and I had to go in, but the strange thing about it is their daughter,
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this is another thing I thought about, their daughter is a high, uh, doctor at the Liberty
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or at some university, some, um, hospital in Lynchburg, Virginia.
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And back then, if I remember correctly, their daughter was, like, one of the housemothers.
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And I'm wondering, if their daughter was, like, my nurse or nurse lady, they gave me
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something to miscarry, because, see, the thing is, is they coerced us to give up the
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baby because they got money for their adoption.
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But my thing was, is that I kept telling them, no, I wanted to keep my baby because I had
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a three-year-old nephew, and I had took care of him.
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I thought I could mother, and it wasn't for me, okay?
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But, still, I have questions, because now I keep seeing stuff, and I'm like, why are these,
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all these videos coming up on my feeds for no reason, you know?
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But I was further along, and they kept telling me I had to hurry up and make up my mind and
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make up my decision, because I'm running out of time, and I have to hurry it up.
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They kept showing me folders of people's faces.
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Would you like your baby to be with this person, or would you like to go raid your baby somewhere
00:30:23.900
You know, I was asking my mom that, and truthfully, I have called down there to find myself, to find
00:30:29.400
dates out, and I can't even find myself, actually, in their system.
00:30:36.140
I've called down there this past few weeks, just to find out information on myself.
00:30:40.760
I even called the home probation officer, which he called me back last night.
00:30:45.880
He was actually telling me information, and he told me, you know, back then, I wasn't a
00:30:53.060
I just skipped school, because I stayed home and stopped in.
00:31:00.340
Wait, but just, I just want to stick to the story of the, just to stay focused.
00:31:08.760
The, you don't know how pregnant you were when you had a miscarriage?
00:31:13.220
Um, I, well, I can tell you I was probably, well, I had, they had to induce the labor.
00:31:20.820
They, I had to deliver, so if that tells you I was over three, four months.
00:31:28.160
So let me tell you what is really interesting about this particular conversation.
00:31:35.200
Um, well, Liberty University is involved, and you hear, she broke down crying several
00:31:42.860
There was obviously real pain there, and what's really interesting is that she told me thereafter
00:31:47.400
that while she can pull all of her court records, Liberty University is sort of like,
00:31:57.980
We had, you had a baby in a house when you were 13 years old and we can't find you.
00:32:04.540
I asked that question to her and she said, what happened after she gave birth was they
00:32:09.320
told her, they called her mom and they said that she's got to go.
00:32:13.560
You're telling me they moved you into a room and they induced labor after you said, I don't
00:32:20.640
They induced labor, they told you, a child, yourself, that there was no heartbeat mysteriously
00:32:25.720
right after you made the decision that you didn't want to give up your child for adoption.
00:32:41.440
They tell your mom, she's got to pick you up ASAP.
00:32:44.020
That's what she goes on to tell me because they didn't want the other young women to be
00:32:48.960
traumatized learning that she had a miscarriage.
00:32:52.100
So in the middle of the night, her mom drives up and gets her, picks her up.
00:33:00.240
What happens when there's a induced labor at Liberty University?
00:33:08.760
Now, why she was triggered when she heard Erica speaking about Trump pageantry, to connect
00:33:15.800
that dot for you, is because Erica had said, you know, you have to submit your pictures.
00:33:24.300
And two years later, she gets an invite to join Trump pageant world.
00:33:35.840
And so that's what triggered her and what, wait a second, how did they get my picture?
00:33:41.420
She never said that they were sexual, by the way.
00:33:43.880
I'm sure they probably said to her at the time at that house, like, so that we can submit
00:33:48.200
your picture to the Christian adoptive families, whatever it is.
00:33:51.960
But it sort of clicked to her that that's kind of odd that I got this invitation to join
00:33:56.860
Now, for those of you who have followed our Epstein series, we spoke about this.
00:34:02.180
Xavier Poussard showed that this was one of his mechanisms.
00:34:05.040
Jeffrey Epstein, Israel's guy, would go find organizations where there were tons of young
00:34:10.560
women that were coming through, and he would pump money into them, like Victoria's Secret.
00:34:19.520
By the way, the history of pageantry, for those of you that don't know, it's child sex
00:34:27.380
What was going on at carnivals, historically speaking, was very dark stuff.
00:34:33.840
Anyways, in case you aren't believing the story, because we know what happens next.
00:34:42.960
Well, the good thing is that there's actually an entire podcast series that is currently
00:34:48.600
investigating this godparent program at Liberty University.
00:34:52.140
And these women have done incredible work, so much work that it actually got picked up
00:35:03.500
The Liberty Godparent Home, a place for young single pregnant women, is defending itself
00:35:07.980
against allegations of coercion and manipulation.
00:35:11.080
A new podcast called Liberty Lost alleges some of the young women felt pressured to place
00:35:22.140
The Liberty Godparent Home is tucked away on Liberty Mountain Drive.
00:35:27.920
The maternity home was founded by Jerry Falwell Sr. in the 80s as part of a pro-life ministry
00:35:37.700
Now, it's the focal point of the podcast, Liberty Lost.
00:35:41.800
What inspired you to investigate this in the first place?
00:35:46.200
For the last two years, I've been investigating the maternity home after connecting with several
00:35:51.700
residents who went through the home as pregnant teenage girls, both in the 1990s and in 2008.
00:36:03.980
Finding out I was pregnant was traumatic and shocking and not something I had any preparation
00:36:11.500
Her parents sent her across the country to Liberty Godparent Home with the promise of
00:36:16.380
a scholarship to Liberty University after all was said and done.
00:36:19.780
I really can't describe the sense of abandonment and fear and disassociation that you experience
00:36:26.180
when your family abandons you all the while calling it something like good for you and like
00:36:35.380
However, she felt the home already made the decision to go the adoption route.
00:36:39.760
Did you ever really feel like you had a choice?
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No, I felt that I was put in really terrifying moments of being given an opportunity to explain
00:36:52.780
to an adult that had a different opinion how I thought I could pull it off.
00:36:56.840
The Godparent Home declined my request for an interview but sent a statement saying in
00:37:02.520
Our staff and volunteers work tirelessly in this ministry and have built a reputation
00:37:07.020
of being a trusted voice and ministry resource in the community.
00:37:11.000
They have treated every individual who has sought assistance with compassion and integrity.
00:37:16.040
Did you feel supported in any way by the people within the home?
00:37:23.340
Rafael says, in theory, maternity homes are a good thing.
00:37:27.680
These women should have been supported and provided with real options to keep and parent
00:37:32.420
their children if that's what they wanted to do.
00:37:34.840
But she says the Godparent Home shouldn't have ties to an adoption agency.
00:37:39.200
According to city records, the Godparent Home and the Family Life Services Adoption Agency
00:37:44.980
Thomas Road Baptist Church founded Family Life Services, according to their website.
00:37:49.060
I reached out to them multiple times for comment about the allegations in the podcast.
00:37:56.700
We just want to make sure we're sharing all sides of this story.
00:38:01.140
Johnson and Rafael say for them, speaking out is the path forward.
00:38:05.700
Help people feel like they have a voice, that they're not forgotten.
00:38:13.200
I asked if they can put me in contact with residents who have had a positive experience
00:38:18.180
But at this point, I haven't gotten a response.
00:38:23.080
I would imagine that I would respond to that and I'd say, yeah, tons of people had a positive
00:38:27.520
And again, the woman that I spoke to, you can see she was there when it was Jerry Falwell
00:38:31.820
Sr., who we're going to speak about in a little bit because I'm going to connect even
00:38:37.400
So, you know, what I want to say is we all felt, for some reason, spiritually sick watching
00:38:45.500
Tim, Dylan did such a good job of saying this feels like something else.
00:38:50.440
Like they just keep saying that this is about God and this is about the Lord and this is
00:38:57.220
about almost like they were trying to turn Charlie into a messianic figure.
00:39:12.640
And I had been speaking throughout the last year, even before Charlie Kirk got assassinated.
00:39:17.380
I dedicate a lot of time in this podcast to speaking to you about this veneer of Christianity.
00:39:26.900
And we really saw them start to ratchet that up after Charlie Kirk's assassination.
00:39:40.660
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Now, I have been signaling to you guys, like I said, that there is something very wrong with these mega churches in America.
00:41:46.820
There's very wrong with almost what I would term Christian Inc.
00:41:51.600
These Christian influencers, suddenly they look like they're glitching a bit, right?
00:41:55.940
Something happened in the last year, and we're like, oh, I used to kind of like you,
00:41:59.280
and now you seem to be glitching inside of this matrix.
00:42:03.140
You're telling us it's right here in the Bible.
00:42:05.500
You seem overly invested in certain narratives.
00:42:08.680
Suddenly, this is beginning to feel like, well, a psychological operation that's being orchestrated by Israel,
00:42:15.960
If your whole brand is Christianity, but you decided to stay mum on the atrocities that Israel is committing in Gaza,
00:42:22.520
this probably isn't really about Christianity, is it?
00:42:29.120
Children especially, if I could offer an addendum.
00:42:35.900
And yet they're remarkably mum on the issue of Charlie Kirk.
00:42:39.680
They had more ire for Candice Owens investigating it than they did for the FBI.
00:42:52.260
You saying anything about Catholicism is wrong.
00:43:02.420
Shouldn't you just be able to call a spade a spade?
00:43:05.220
No, they can't because they represent something else.
00:43:07.620
I have spoken at Liberty University multiple times, and I promise you I never thought once to look up their origin story.
00:43:14.800
I was just so excited that there was a Christian university in general, and they were remarkable to me when I spoke there, and I wasn't looking, I guess, for anything deeper.
00:43:26.100
I didn't see how I was also being manipulated in various ways early on in my political career.
00:43:31.460
So color me surprised to learn that Liberty University was once failing, and then it received a ton of funding.
00:43:38.920
Honestly, the story of how it came to be, the university that it is today, is quite interesting.
00:43:43.720
Someone emailed me, and they wrote, and I quote,
00:43:46.640
Hi, Candace, I'm currently reading The Israel Lobby by John Mearsheimer, and in the book, it talks about how the Israeli government gave Jerry Falwell, Liberty University's founder, Jerry Falwell Sr., a $2 million jet in 1979.
00:44:04.400
Adjusted for inflation, that's like $10 million, and that was to gain support from evangelicals in America.
00:44:10.280
I figured it would be helpful for your deep dive of Israel buying evangelicals, end quote.
00:44:15.160
Oh, that's interesting. That tip does seem like something I should explore. Probably is helpful.
00:44:21.900
And it's true. Jerry Falwell Sr., I should tell you, had a rather radical conversion to Christianity when Israel became a nation in 1948.
00:44:33.980
Now, prior to that, this is according to the Washington Post, he came from a family that definitely had some issues.
00:44:39.720
His daddy, a man named Cary Hezekiah, was a drunk, and he was a bootlegger, okay?
00:44:47.520
He was a bootlegger, and he was a drunk, and he got into a fight with his brother once.
00:44:53.460
This is literally his brother. His name was Garland, and he shot him dead.
00:44:57.580
And to be even clearer here, his dad wasn't just a bootlegger. Cary was not just a bootlegger.
00:45:05.900
So he pretended like he was just a business owner that was running a string of gas stations, ostensibly.
00:45:11.380
But in reality, he was using his fuel trucks to smuggle bootleg whiskey into America during the time of Prohibition.
00:45:17.900
And it's giving Trogno liquors, you know, as we started getting into season two of Becoming Brigitte.
00:45:23.740
I'm like, wow, a lot of people were smuggling things into America.
00:45:27.340
Anyways, I keep telling you guys that the people that rule over us, the people that have these huge platforms,
00:45:34.320
they are not smarter than us. They're just more corrupt than us.
00:45:38.500
They're willing to do anything to maintain their power.
00:45:46.520
Back to Cary, after he shot his brother dead, he became a rather nasty alcoholic.
00:45:51.980
His employee, one time, this is a true story as documented by Rolling Stone,
00:45:57.740
his employee stayed home sick one day, so Falwell got mad.
00:46:01.360
He decided to catch the man's cat that he loved, and he killed the cat.
00:46:06.060
Then he cooked the cat, and then he delivered the remains of the cat to the employee's house for lunch.
00:46:14.760
Yeah, that's why I went with the thumbnail title, Don't F with Cats,
00:46:18.360
because now we have to find Charlie Kirk's murderer, for those of you who watched that series.
00:46:24.560
Now, according to Forbes, he also once threw a man into a bear cage
00:46:28.660
after he had an argument with him at one of his restaurants.
00:46:37.820
In 1948, the very year that Israel became a nation,
00:46:41.140
Cary Hezekiah died from cirrhosis of the liver,
00:46:44.460
and his son, Jerry Falwell Sr., had an immediate radical conversion to Christianity.
00:46:50.020
Bootlegging, trafficking, smuggling, be damned,
00:46:52.580
because his business was now going to be the church ministering.
00:46:55.760
He became a televangelist, and he established Lynchburg College in 1971,
00:47:01.200
which would eventually change its name to Liberty University, Liberty University that we know today.
00:47:08.440
In 1979, Jerry Falwell Sr. was gifted a Learjet from the founder of the Likud Party,
00:47:23.040
But I'm always wondering, in exchange for what?
00:47:28.600
Because that kind of reminds me about how Bibi Netanyahu wanted to take Turning Point USA to the next level.
00:47:35.420
He offered to take Turning Point USA to the next level.
00:47:39.580
But apparently, nobody in the mainstream media is interested in answering the question
00:47:44.220
as to why he wanted to take Turning Point USA to the next level.
00:47:49.100
What does Israel have to do with young evangelicals, a young evangelical organization?
00:47:57.800
How exactly was he planning to get that money to Turning Point USA?
00:48:00.580
I'm assuming he wasn't going to write, like, a blank check from the Likud Party.
00:48:03.480
Surely, he was going to accomplish that through other people and their organizations
00:48:11.160
because Israel never gets their hands dirty if they can avoid it.
00:48:20.760
And I got another clue from a different email tip that I received regarding Liberty University.
00:48:26.620
I have some links that might be important for you in your investigation regarding connections
00:48:32.460
between the Iran-Contra scandal and Liberty University.
00:48:37.200
Now, to remind you, the Iran-Contra scandal was a trafficking scandal that involved our government,
00:48:43.700
Of course, the Mossad, Jeffrey Epstein, was involved in the Iran-Contra scandal.
00:48:47.860
If the Mossad is to be believed, that's how they first brought him in, running weapons
00:48:52.840
through South America, and the CIA and the Mossad got caught involving.
00:48:59.480
They were trying to control what was happening in South America.
00:49:02.680
And, yeah, they were arming people to take over countries.
00:49:08.920
Anyways, the reason how this involves Liberty University is that during the Iran-Contra scandal,
00:49:14.580
as the email goes on, a man named Sun Young Moon, a North Korean evangelical cult leader,
00:49:23.540
assisted the CIA in its so-called anti-communist efforts.
00:49:28.540
That's how they build what they were doing during the Iran-Contra scandal in Central America.
00:49:33.980
He used his logistics network through the churches to aid the Contras through his unification church.
00:49:41.720
He connected, and their connected organizations like CA USA.
00:49:46.260
And he also ran PR for the Reagan administration regarding U.S.'s involvement in Central America
00:49:55.820
Okay, so what's important is that this Sun Young Moon later would bail Liberty University out.
00:50:03.960
The person in the email said roughly the amount was $20 to $40 million in the mid-1990s.
00:50:09.420
Now, I find it extremely interesting—I mean, sorry, this person wrote to me,
00:50:13.860
I find it extremely interesting that the same evangelical cult leader who worked with federal agencies
00:50:19.100
and profited from the Iran-Contra scandal also financially rescued Liberty University
00:50:24.820
and how Liberty University might be connected to the drug-smuggling military base he's referring to, Fort Huachuca.
00:50:31.880
That was the reason he sent the email discussing Fort Huachuca.
00:50:34.600
Interesting indeed, I would say, because we've got a story about the feds smuggling, Christianity, Israel, South Korea.
00:50:48.440
And The Washington Post did a fantastic article breaking down what became known as the Moon Cult,
00:50:53.880
an article that they published in 1997 as that cult was beginning to fade,
00:50:59.820
or I guess their power was beginning to fade here in America.
00:51:04.100
And it's stunning because if you close your eyes and imagine,
00:51:07.480
you start to see Turning Point USA and Turning Point USA faith, everything that I've been describing.
00:51:12.860
I kept saying from the very beginning, what went raw in that Turning Point USA was this faith push.
00:51:18.640
I've been telling you, and I'm going to show you that these Egyptian planes, I've showed you in part,
00:51:23.240
were tracking Turning Point USA faith, these pastors, okay?
00:51:27.380
What's going on with these, quote-unquote, Egyptian planes that happen to look like they're going into Gaza, actually?
00:51:33.860
So I'm going to read you parts of this article regarding the Reverend Sun Moon, his unification church.
00:51:43.360
Yeah, so when we start to see how it feels like they were trying to establish Charlie as a messianic figure,
00:51:49.200
and it's all become somehow about money, they don't actually care about Charlie.
00:51:56.260
We're going to make it people just, here's the bloody mic.
00:52:03.280
I'm wanting to imagine that as I tell you about what Sun Moon's unification church accomplished in America, rather.
00:52:10.140
And yes, attached to the Iran-Contra affair and Israel, and pumping money into Liberty University.
00:52:15.920
Okay, now it tells us that their unification church was faltering as a religion in the United States,
00:52:21.760
but it still remains a robust, diverse business.
00:52:23.960
Again, this is 1997, especially in the Washington area,
00:52:27.840
where the movement controls more than 300 million in commercial, political, and cultural enterprises.
00:52:34.340
It tells us that the organizations owned or sponsored by Moon and his inner circle of Korean and American followers
00:52:42.520
holds properties stretching from Prince George to Fairfax County, according to corporate property and court records.
00:52:50.360
This vast and bewildering multinational could be called Moon Inc.
00:52:55.260
It is a sprawling collection of churches, non-profit foundations, and for-profit holding companies.
00:53:01.460
In the Washington area, the unification church's investment is an important cog in a global machine that Moon uses
00:53:09.140
to boost his credibility, spread his spiritual doctrine, and win political influence,
00:53:14.720
according to current and former church members.
00:53:17.480
As the unification movement evolved from selling roses on street corners
00:53:21.160
to acquiring control of a nationwide cable channel,
00:53:24.740
the nation's capital became the epicenter of Moon's U.S. holdings.
00:53:29.480
Those include the Washington Times, Washington Times newspaper,
00:53:36.820
a video production firm, a stately old church, once the pride of the Mormons,
00:53:41.480
along 16th Street Northwest, Washington area property owned by the church,
00:53:46.120
its affiliated companies or senior church officials,
00:53:49.140
is worth more than $200 million, according to property and corporate records.
00:53:54.720
I was telling you, Turning Point's getting into real estate.
00:53:57.960
They're getting into real estate, according to a tip that I have,
00:54:01.040
because they're going to teach young conservatives how to buy houses, I'm sure.
00:54:08.860
Washington will be the focus of the worldwide unification movement this week,
00:54:13.800
as Moon-sponsored organizations are going to hold a series of academic conferences
00:54:18.720
and the World Sports and Culture Festival, culminating Saturday with a mass wedding at RFK Stadium.
00:54:26.260
The South Korean self-declared messiah has grown increasingly vehement within the unification movement.
00:54:32.780
Moon's spiritual and business ventures are viewed as a part of a unified whole.
00:54:38.300
The corporate section is understood to be the engine that funds the mission of the church.
00:54:53.380
I am telling you, this is like almost verbatim.
00:54:56.800
If you were to read statements about Turning Point USA and their spinoffs,
00:55:02.440
It's going to be the 501c3, the 501c4, and Turning Point action.
00:55:11.600
Moon has gained his highest profile in this country,
00:55:16.580
the 100,000 circulation daily that competes with the Washington Post.
00:55:22.140
But the paper has become an established voice of conservative America.
00:55:25.260
Beyond the Times, Moon-affiliated entities are linked
00:55:31.620
and nurtured by a seemingly endless flow of cash from the Far East.
00:55:40.700
and even help to bail out Reverend Jerry Falwell's
00:55:51.720
have acknowledged that money from Japan and Korea
00:55:58.460
But the magnitude and the mechanism of those payments,
00:56:09.540
So you're telling me we have a faith-based organization
00:56:12.420
with a political arm that is stretched into evangelical churches
00:56:26.160
through churches and the presence of their church.
00:56:30.020
when they started looking into where this money was coming from,
00:56:41.920
And then after he went to Korea and met with a pastor,
00:56:46.640
And then after he went to Korea, he went to Japan.
00:56:49.960
I'm just saying the past is feeling like it's a bit prologue.
00:56:59.840
Turning point in faith, pushing you into Korea.
00:57:06.120
how they suddenly established a Holocaust museum.
00:57:55.200
and to support Moon's spiritual and political agenda.
00:58:12.660
stage academic, religious, and cultural conferences
00:58:23.420
Oh, that reminds me of Turning Point USA Faith.
00:58:25.280
I told you they were embarking on this pastor summit.
00:58:46.040
It goes on to say that they'll have a conference
00:59:26.340
It's always the international something or another.
00:59:35.960
that it was coming from one of these fellowship,