Candace Owens - The Past Is Prologue： Why Charlie Kirk Was Murdered

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys. Happy Thursday. Sorry I am running late. I was just doing so much research. I have so much to tell you all today. So we have to jump right into this because I actually have a horror story for you, an actual real-life horror story for you.

00:00:14.240 So someone called me last night and told me a very strange story about what happened to her back in the 90s at an evangelical university.

00:00:25.220 But first, we have to revisit Brian Harpole's story about how far in advance they typically plan security because someone has leaked to me another glaring oddity in this security protocol.

00:00:38.340 Let's jump right back in. Welcome back to Candace.

00:00:44.240 Do you know what I think? I think that whoever made the decision for Brian Harpole to sit down with Sean Ryan made a terrible mistake.

00:01:02.340 Big PR mistake. PR nightmare. That's kind of been the story here. One long, bad PR decision after the next.

00:01:11.840 Because the issue is Brian said too much. The internet is meticulous. The internet is clocking them every sentence.

00:01:19.680 It's really easy to catch people in inconsistencies and then to keep replaying what they said about certain things, especially when they don't add up.

00:01:28.320 So I would like to gently remind you all back at home what Brian Harpole said about what typical preparations entail for Charlie Kirk events. Take a listen.

00:01:37.840 Let's move into the threat assessment and the pre-planning for the event.

00:01:44.260 Absolutely.

00:01:45.140 How many days prior were you guys there?

00:01:47.400 We generally have the permitting process and all that goes on behind the scenes.

00:01:51.860 And then there's a questionnaires that are filled out that we used to, there was a lot of busy work.

00:01:58.060 And then so, you know, kind of like in the military, what you did, we create forms that, hey, let's get this information up front.

00:02:05.280 And so that we have a duplication process so that we can confirm it.

00:02:09.760 And so we started our first before that one, the 24th of the month prior.

00:02:17.460 And so, and that was with the hard conversations, meetings.

00:02:22.440 You started that on the 24th?

00:02:25.260 Right.

00:02:27.100 That's two weeks.

00:02:28.720 At least.

00:02:29.240 No, it started before that with the intelligence gathering and all that.

00:02:34.720 But the hard conversations, the sharing of information, the conference calls, the data sheets.

00:02:42.940 And we put that in a timeline on an app so that this all goes up and every guy that's on that job can see all the intel that comes in.

00:02:54.960 It's a decentralized command model for the company.

00:02:58.100 And so anybody can make command decisions for the betterment of the client or the team.

00:03:02.800 And so everything goes on that app.

00:03:06.260 And so when I get it, they get it.

00:03:08.460 And whoever's gathering that intel, it gets it.

00:03:10.760 There's no hold.

00:03:11.560 There's no power hold on it.

00:03:13.500 And so that first information came in on the 24th.

00:03:17.720 And then the information share starts where we're walking through, you know, everything that you need for a detail.

00:03:25.580 Everything that you need for a detail, obviously, elsewhere in the interview, he describes this conversation that he had with the chief of police.

00:03:34.640 He's upset about the chief of police not covering the rooftops because he feels that his team was on it.

00:03:40.600 So on it.

00:03:41.200 You're coordinating with the whole police departments.

00:03:43.200 You're discussing drones.

00:03:44.320 Drones were not allowed.

00:03:45.960 And so they just had to let that go.

00:03:48.000 Well, interestingly enough, I received a tip from someone that was directly involved with the planning of an event that Charlie Kirk was supposed to attend the following day.

00:03:59.220 On September 11th, the day after his assassination, Charlie was slated to speak in Woodland Park, Colorado, Colorado at the Cherise Bible College.

00:04:10.420 Okay, so that's in Woodland Park, Colorado.

00:04:12.940 He was slated to speak there.

00:04:14.320 And according to this person, after Charlie got assassinated, there was a bit of a panicked meeting that took place, which was headed by the chief of police.

00:04:22.800 They decided to transform this event into a vigil.

00:04:28.800 And they were panicked because, believe it or not, they had absolutely no security plan in place.

00:04:35.080 They thought, how odd.

00:04:36.160 We don't have a security plan in place.

00:04:37.480 Now we better consider this, and we need to make sure that we have police officer involvements.

00:04:44.280 Why didn't Dan Flood and Brian Harpole and Turning Point USA's security have any coordination with the police departments up in Colorado?

00:04:56.260 If this is what they normally do, and, you know, the way he overdescribes that, and they get the plan, and everybody can access and start to begin to speak, and then we speak to the police, and then we do all this stuff.

00:05:07.480 We just didn't think to do that for the event that he had the next day.

00:05:12.460 No police officer involvement scheduled, nothing.

00:05:15.360 Suddenly they're panicked because they realize they don't have anything scheduled.

00:05:20.000 Yeah.

00:05:20.920 So the police chief apparently decided to take measures himself to make sure that the vigil went off without a hitch.

00:05:29.220 That's what I mean.

00:05:31.460 When you lie a lot and when you're planning things you're not supposed to be planning, you don't think through every detail.

00:05:36.460 Yeah.

00:05:37.100 As in the next day.

00:05:38.400 If you expected Charlie to make it to September 11th, you would have been communicating about what he was doing up at the Therese Bible College.

00:05:50.080 Anyways, moving on to other news, I want to show you this working Excel sheet that I quickly put together today, so it is by no means perfect, but I was telling you that throughout this investigation, I have noticed some recurring themes that have come up.

00:06:04.240 I don't really know what all this means.

00:06:05.760 I still don't know what all of it means, but I wanted to start jotting this down and putting it together so that it looks clean and we can just add another name every time a name comes up in any of these categories.

00:06:17.500 This isn't how you're really supposed to use Microsoft Excel, but it's how I'm using it so that it looks neat.

00:06:22.200 If you just look over here at the columns, these four themes that I'm identifying, and I'm going to add more, Liberty University, Eastern Europe, trafficking and child sex abuse, and then in that final column, military.

00:06:37.100 These are just themes that I recognize keep coming up.

00:06:39.740 So Liberty University, very quickly going through this, Tyler Boyer attended and he graduated.

00:06:44.140 Erica Kirk attended and she graduated.

00:06:45.680 Cabot Phillips attended and he graduated.

00:06:48.940 Mikey McCoy was accepted into Liberty University, but then he chose not to attend because he got the job at Turning Point USA instead and he went direct there after high school.

00:06:59.180 It should be noted that his father, Rob McCoy, met Charlie Kirk via Jerry Falwell Jr.

00:07:04.600 He was the president of Liberty University until there was a sex scandal fallout.

00:07:11.580 And Andrew Colbett, I'll tell you what his connection is.

00:07:14.700 Andrew Colbett was working PR for the Kairos company under Johnny Moore.

00:07:18.860 Johnny Moore was the lead pastor at Liberty University prior to then leaving Liberty University to start the PR firm.

00:07:26.600 And Johnny Moore is an important name for those of you who watched.

00:07:30.440 Tucker Carlson had interviewed someone in the military.

00:07:33.040 He was speaking about what was happening in Gaza, how children were literally starving, how children were being shot at for fun.

00:07:39.560 And bizarrely, they decided that Johnny Moore, Reverend Johnny Moore, is it Reverend Johnny Moore?

00:07:44.860 I don't know.

00:07:45.540 He was somehow equipped to lead the Gaza Humanitarian Fund.

00:07:49.660 And he gets this role.

00:07:51.460 Essentially, you're going to distribute your organization.

00:07:54.120 You're going to be the head of distributing the food to the children of Palestine, the families of Palestine.

00:08:00.680 And obviously, we know how that went.

00:08:02.480 IDF soldiers are just killing them.

00:08:04.620 And so he does a lot to say, I have no idea why he got this position.

00:08:07.780 It seems remarkably corrupt.

00:08:09.280 Anyways, I wanted to let you know who that Johnny Moore was.

00:08:12.860 He was just running PR.

00:08:14.760 He's a PR guy like Andrew Colbett who was under him.

00:08:18.260 And then Andrew Colbett leaves Kairos and decides to mint his own PR firm.

00:08:23.900 That's really just around Charlie Kirk, really, as his only client.

00:08:29.720 I believe that's his only client.

00:08:32.120 Turning Point USA.

00:08:33.740 Then you have the Falkirk Center.

00:08:37.040 I'm going to put that in the same category.

00:08:38.480 In case you don't know this, what happened was Jerry Falwell Jr. and Charlie Kirk decided to come together to establish the Falkirk Center.

00:08:46.920 This was actually Turning Point USA, the precursor Turning Point USA, right?

00:08:51.860 So he meets Rob McCoy.

00:08:53.040 They start discussing putting this together, the Falkirk Center.

00:08:57.200 And then Jerry Falwell has this huge sex scandal.

00:08:59.140 He's forced to step down.

00:09:00.660 It's like this pool boy scandal.

00:09:01.820 So he's forced to step down from Littlebury University.

00:09:04.080 And now this project just, they go, we can't go far with this.

00:09:08.120 This is hugely embarrassing to the university.

00:09:10.580 This is now going to be a relic.

00:09:12.800 By the way, at that time, Erica Fransby, because her and Charlie were not yet married, they were dating.

00:09:17.080 She became a Falkirk fellow.

00:09:18.300 They were kind of hitting the road together and working to make the Falkirk Center a thing.

00:09:24.260 And so what happened after it fell apart was that they decided to instead create Turning Point Faith.

00:09:30.300 That's important for you to know that, this origin in Liberty University, because I'm going to tell you more in a bit.

00:09:35.660 Now, regarding Eastern Europe, remember that plane, that sort of mysteriously, people thought it turned off its transponder.

00:09:45.640 They issued a statement saying they didn't turn off their transponder.

00:09:48.880 It flew from Provo, Utah, into Arizona.

00:09:55.460 And then he said, we were just picking people up.

00:09:57.800 Well, I'm putting that under because in investigating that, I determined that, oh, interesting.

00:10:02.520 They were formally registered.

00:10:04.080 That plane, pardon me, was formally registered in Romania back in 2013.

00:10:09.040 The tail number was then Y-R-N-V-Y, almost looks like Navy there, Y-R-N-V-Y.

00:10:17.500 And then in 2015, so from 2013 to 2015, that plane was registered in Romania.

00:10:23.400 Interesting, okay?

00:10:25.080 Doesn't necessarily mean anything.

00:10:26.460 I'm just telling you that this is when these things have come up.

00:10:29.280 Obviously, we know that Erica Kirk began the Romanian Angels Project in late 2012, early 2013.

00:10:38.660 through to 2015.

00:10:40.860 And obviously, you have seen all the TikToks describing the scandal.

00:10:45.480 And to explain that to you, just to kind of separate the myth from the facts of this,

00:10:52.140 I'll tell you what the facts are.

00:10:52.960 The facts are that Lori Fransfee established the Everyday Heroes Foundation,

00:10:59.420 which was supposed to help children in need.

00:11:02.020 That was established in Arizona under Erica's mother's name, Lori Fransfee.

00:11:07.120 What they decided to do, as charities do, is that they develop certain projects and certain missions.

00:11:11.860 And what spun out from Lori's charity was the Romanian Angels Project.

00:11:17.400 And they got this deal with the military.

00:11:20.200 They worked with the military in Romania to help orphans, okay?

00:11:26.320 Now, it is a fact that they worked with, at that time, Colonel Otto Buscher.

00:11:34.200 Colonel Otto Buscher was then accused of running a brothel with young children,

00:11:43.240 taking them onto the military base for himself, his sexual needs.

00:11:48.320 A woman filed in Romania and said, this is what's actually happening.

00:11:53.180 These children are going onto the base, and they're being prostituted to military men.

00:11:57.320 So, it was not, there is no articles that say Erica Fransfee or Lori were involved in this,

00:12:03.800 but it is a fact that they were working on the Romanian project with Colonel Buscher.

00:12:08.020 They thanked him.

00:12:09.040 And then Colonel Buscher gets accused of running a Romanian brothel with Romanian children.

00:12:15.760 Those are the facts of that.

00:12:16.560 In 2011, Tyler Boyer also went to Romania to work with the Romanian government.

00:12:23.240 I am still trying to determine exactly what he was doing with them.

00:12:26.880 I'll have more on that, hopefully, later.

00:12:29.620 In 2013, Tyler Boyer posted a photo of himself with a Ukrainian orphan named Natalia.

00:12:37.040 She doesn't, he says in the post, or his wife says in the post, current wife says in the post,

00:12:41.000 that she doesn't speak English, Natalia.

00:12:42.600 And he claims to be helping through an adoption agency program, helping her because he speaks Russian.

00:12:49.840 I can show you that photo, actually.

00:12:51.400 We have that photo somewhere, Skylar.

00:12:54.440 Can we pull up that photo of that post?

00:12:56.520 Do you have that?

00:12:58.700 Great.

00:12:59.200 Here we go.

00:12:59.660 Just so you guys know, we're making this up.

00:13:01.520 This was posted by his wife.

00:13:02.700 This is Natalia.

00:13:03.400 She is 12 years old, and she's an orphan from Ukraine.

00:13:06.220 She's staying with my friend, Aubrey, and her family for the holidays through an adoption agency program.

00:13:11.540 She does not speak English, so Tyler was able to go and talk with her in Russian for over an hour tonight.

00:13:16.540 She was shy at first, but by the end of the visit, she was hugging him and asked him not to leave.

00:13:21.000 It was a wonderful yet heartbreaking experience.

00:13:22.400 All at the same time, it makes me so grateful for all that we have.

00:13:27.300 Thank you to the OBS report for letting us be a part of Natalia's day.

00:13:31.560 Okay.

00:13:33.060 Next, we have Turning Point USA, obviously, working with Pastor Greg Laurie,

00:13:36.920 despite Harvest Church being accused of trafficking children from Romania.

00:13:42.620 Okay, sure.

00:13:44.000 He says that's not true.

00:13:45.200 That's not what we were doing.

00:13:46.480 People say, yeah, it's exactly what you were doing.

00:13:48.660 We don't know.

00:13:49.300 We don't have a verdict on that because that's happening currently.

00:13:52.400 Andrew Colvett's brother, Curtis, is currently stationed in Romania as a lieutenant colonel.

00:13:58.340 We have Tyler Boyer, who holds a degree in Russian studies and is fluent in Russian,

00:14:03.000 which is similar to Astrid Tuminez, by the way, the president of UVU.

00:14:07.000 She also holds a degree in Russian studies and is fluent in Russian.

00:14:10.360 And I should mention, she's an orphaned child.

00:14:13.300 Might be relevant, might not be relevant.

00:14:14.600 Who knows?

00:14:15.880 Rob McCoy, I don't know if you knew this, but he adopted a 12-year-old girl named Natalia.

00:14:20.600 She now goes by Natasha from Russia around 2006.

00:14:26.920 Okay, so I don't know.

00:14:29.940 These are just facts.

00:14:31.120 I'm delivering the facts here.

00:14:31.980 Now, regarding trafficking, sex abuse, N88KG, which is now currently owned by Derek and Shalane

00:14:42.360 Maxfield, they run Sapria, which is a child abuse charity.

00:14:47.860 Not, you know, they're helping children that have been abused, a sex abuse charity.

00:14:53.080 And then I told you guys about Colonel Otto Buscher, who was accused of running a brothel

00:14:57.000 with Romanian children from 2011 to 2015 at a Romanian military base in Romania, I should say.

00:15:05.620 Not a Romanian military base.

00:15:06.860 An American military base in Romania.

00:15:09.980 And yes, he worked with Romanian angels during that time period.

00:15:15.180 A civilian commander, sorry, stationed at Fort Huachuca.

00:15:20.280 A civilian commander that was stationed at Fort Huachuca, David Fraudsham, was charged with

00:15:26.560 running a child sex abuse ring.

00:15:29.340 That is true.

00:15:29.960 TPUSA Faith works with Pastor Greg Laurie.

00:15:32.680 As I told you, they are currently embroiled in a trafficking scandal.

00:15:37.440 George Zinn was arrested, and then it was determined that he had pornographic images.

00:15:41.740 That's our decoy boy of children on his phone.

00:15:45.280 And as I told you, he told people at the hospital that he was treated at that he would be paid

00:15:51.520 if he did this.

00:15:53.060 Now, he didn't know where the money was coming from, but all he had to do was jump up and

00:15:55.760 down and say, it was me.

00:15:56.720 It was me.

00:15:57.140 Andrew Piscadlo, you might remember that name because early on, pictures were circulating

00:16:03.420 of him, and people thought that he could have been the shooter because he was wearing the

00:16:08.200 suits, and people thought he maybe had a weapon in his bag.

00:16:12.300 It ended up being that he was photographing.

00:16:14.800 He was taking pictures.

00:16:16.040 He was a photographer, not hired by Turning Point USA.

00:16:18.420 But he has rang the alarm before on military Ukrainian sex trafficking that is happening

00:16:27.420 in the United States.

00:16:28.680 If you go through his Instagram, he has said this is what's happening.

00:16:32.080 Currently, they are trafficking children from Ukraine, and he did some investigation into

00:16:36.780 that.

00:16:37.580 So that came up when I was looking into him early on.

00:16:40.860 Obviously, I've covered extensively Cavalry Chapel Church, riddled with pastor abuse stories.

00:16:47.080 I mean, it's a thing, okay?

00:16:51.200 And then, obviously, we know Rob McCoy was trying to rehabilitate somebody who actually

00:16:55.200 went to prison.

00:16:57.240 He said he found the Lord and decided to put him into homes with children via Cavalry Chapel.

00:17:02.340 There's a lot of rehabilitating people who have an issue with abusing children, I would

00:17:07.700 say, at the Cavalry Chapel Church.

00:17:10.800 It's problematic.

00:17:12.360 And I'm putting Glenn Beck and Tim Ballard's operation underground here.

00:17:16.260 Actually, I learned about Operation Underground.

00:17:18.940 That was introduced to me by Marissa Strait over at PragerU.

00:17:22.460 She asked me to interview Tim Ballard before he had to step down from the charity, which

00:17:27.620 was a child trafficking charity dedicated to rescuing children from being trafficked in

00:17:35.960 war-torn areas.

00:17:38.600 Glenn Beck was the initial investment, as the story was told to me when I was at PragerU.

00:17:42.320 When I interviewed him, obviously, we know Glenn Beck has interviewed Erica Kirk.

00:17:45.640 We know that Glenn Beck, also his children, were there at UVU when Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

00:17:52.400 He was one of the first people to speak out about that on the news on September 10th.

00:17:57.540 And Tim Ballard's name strangely came up when we were looking into Phil Lyman.

00:18:02.180 And we learned that he paid Tim Ballard a visit in the days following the assassination, which

00:18:11.140 was just Tim Ballard's name coming up, which was interesting to me because I was like, oh,

00:18:15.960 he runs also a child trafficking charity.

00:18:18.220 There's a lot of that, just a lot of that happening.

00:18:19.680 And also, I should mention Derek and Shalane Maxfield, who run this abuse charity.

00:18:25.720 In their profile pictures, they were wearing an Operation Underground shirt.

00:18:30.260 So people are very passionate, I would say, about trafficking and putting together organizations

00:18:37.300 to stop trafficking in this story.

00:18:41.220 Now, in terms of our military connection, it is extensive.

00:18:44.240 Like I said, this is by no means a definitive list.

00:18:46.360 I put this together today.

00:18:48.080 Andrew Colvett's brother and cousin are captains in the military.

00:18:50.960 Curtis Colvett and Robert Colvett, Rob McCoy's father, Roy Edgar McCoy, ran psychological operations

00:18:56.820 for naval intelligence to shape public perception.

00:19:00.160 His son, Danny McCoy, is currently in the military.

00:19:03.840 And yeah, he had a whole naval fleet named after him, actually.

00:19:09.200 So top dog, top dog.

00:19:11.740 We obviously know Erica Kirk has been open about the fact that her mother and her father do defense

00:19:18.800 related military work.

00:19:20.040 It's why she moved to Arizona in the first place, because they had contracts with the

00:19:25.840 DOD, and we know that her father has worked with Raytheon.

00:19:30.440 The Farmsworth family has extensive military connections.

00:19:33.360 I will add more about that later, and we will cover that later, because the Farmsworth family

00:19:38.460 in general is important to the story.

00:19:41.780 Dr. Frank Turek was a naval flight officer for eight years.

00:19:46.000 His son, Frank Turek III, is a deputy officer, deputy division chief, pardon me, at the joint

00:19:51.360 chief of staff in D.C.

00:19:52.800 His other son, Spencer, is an Air Force vet.

00:19:57.020 He was on the phone with, I think he said both of his sons, FaceTiming with both of his

00:20:00.980 sons.

00:20:01.760 Correct me if I'm wrong.

00:20:02.560 Maybe it's one of his sons he was FaceTiming with.

00:20:04.120 The Hades military plane, which we haven't discussed too much, but I promise you will

00:20:09.440 get there, inexplicably flew this route around UVU on the day of the assassination, just before

00:20:16.940 and just after, which is interesting because that plane in particular has a lot to do with

00:20:22.340 drones.

00:20:22.740 Again, we'll get more into that in a future episode.

00:20:26.780 And then, of course, the doctors.

00:20:28.100 Dr. Lee Trotter did his residency on an Air Force base, and he also has his pilot's license.

00:20:34.260 The Utah medical examiner, Dr. Deidre Amaro, is a major.

00:20:38.220 Butch Hibbs, we have Jack Hibbs, their father, Butch Sr., military background, and I suspect

00:20:43.140 Butch Hibbs also perhaps is involved in the military himself.

00:20:47.700 We are looking for something a bit more concrete on that.

00:20:51.580 Now, I want to present that to you because I want to focus on building that so you can

00:20:59.580 see these themes recurring.

00:21:01.760 But today, we're going to talk more about Liberty University because I received a very

00:21:07.100 interesting set of tips about Liberty University.

00:21:10.320 Particularly yesterday, I was contacted by someone.

00:21:13.260 Well, actually, I should say I spoke to someone yesterday.

00:21:16.180 I was contacted by them many times via email pleading for me to call.

00:21:20.480 She was pleading for me to call her.

00:21:22.140 It wasn't really clear to me as to why there seemed to be a panic.

00:21:26.420 She was seemingly triggered by a video regarding Trump pageantry.

00:21:31.640 Okay?

00:21:31.900 The video in question is not controversial, and she has no connection to the person in

00:21:36.780 the video, which was Erica Kirk, simply discussing how she got involved with the Trump pageant

00:21:41.660 world.

00:21:42.660 Hence why I was not exactly seeing the big picture.

00:21:44.660 She doesn't know Erica.

00:21:45.380 She had nothing to say about how Erica knew Trump pageants, but her speaking about it

00:21:49.940 was triggering for her.

00:21:51.240 Anyways, after a lot of back forth, I decided to just call her.

00:21:55.980 I had some time yesterday to see why Trump pageantry in general was so triggering to her.

00:22:01.480 And she began to tell me a story that was quite unbelievable at first until I did some research.

00:22:08.200 This woman, whose identity I am going to protect at this moment, was a young teenager in the

00:22:15.020 90s, and she had landed herself in a bit of trouble.

00:22:17.960 She wound up with a probation officer, and she also got pregnant, and they essentially told

00:22:25.780 her, hey, you know, you're either going to get your life together, sort of this ultimatum.

00:22:29.780 We could send you to juvie, or you could go away, and we'll give you an opportunity here.

00:22:36.320 There's this amazing new program that's being run out of Liberty University, which helps

00:22:41.500 troubled teens, which you are a troubled teen.

00:22:43.920 She was 13 at this time.

00:22:46.240 So obviously, they made the decision for her to take the option.

00:22:50.040 It's like when the judge says, hey, you can go to rehab, or you can go to prison.

00:22:53.380 Obviously, I'm going to go to rehab.

00:22:55.660 So she chose to go down to Lynchburg, Virginia, while she was pregnant, to live in a house with

00:23:02.140 other troubled girls who were being helped through a program that was known as the God

00:23:07.760 Parent Program.

00:23:09.300 It still is a thing today.

00:23:11.500 Effectively, they help these young women who are struggling with various other things, but

00:23:17.000 particularly with her and the women that she was sharing rooms with, their pregnancy journey.

00:23:22.240 And they offer to help place their children into adoptive Christian homes, should they choose

00:23:32.300 not to keep their children.

00:23:35.240 Sounds nice enough.

00:23:36.560 That seems like, you know, the Christian spirit, pro-life, and don't have an abortion.

00:23:41.760 Instead, we can have a home for your child to be raised in.

00:23:46.180 But things got pretty weird after that, and I want you to listen to what she told me in

00:23:52.100 this conversation, which I recorded.

00:23:54.520 And yes, I have her permission to share this conversation.

00:23:57.300 I'm sorry if this sounds, you know, not too clear.

00:24:01.300 We tried to make it as clear as possible.

00:24:03.260 And yeah, let's just roll it.

00:24:05.600 It's going to be quite long, but it's very important.

00:24:08.040 Take a listen.

00:24:08.680 When I got to the Liberty Godparent Home, which is what took me in, in, like, 94, they used

00:24:18.580 to lock us in our room 24 hours a day.

00:24:22.560 We were locked in our room.

00:24:24.780 We weren't allowed visitors.

00:24:27.160 We weren't allowed people at our home.

00:24:29.760 I didn't have no visitors because I didn't have any family there, of course.

00:24:33.840 And I'm shaking.

00:24:34.480 And then I didn't have no family there, so I didn't have nobody.

00:24:40.720 They used to take weird pictures of us.

00:24:43.780 How old were you?

00:24:45.680 I'm sorry.

00:24:46.440 Go ahead.

00:24:47.000 How old were you?

00:24:49.500 I had to be 13, 14.

00:24:52.120 Okay.

00:24:52.700 And who took pictures?

00:24:53.900 I was born in 79.

00:24:54.840 Who took pictures of you?

00:24:58.000 Followers.

00:24:59.040 Senior.

00:25:00.040 Senior.

00:25:00.360 And then, his face looked familiar, but he looked older now.

00:25:06.620 And you're talking 30 years ago, you know?

00:25:08.780 Mm-hmm.

00:25:10.280 But, like, Jerry Followers, Senior, was the one actually taking the photos?

00:25:15.400 Yeah.

00:25:15.800 They, um, I remember him and his wife there.

00:25:18.400 But another thing weird about it is I never thought about, like, what happened the night

00:25:24.620 and the night, morning I delivered my baby.

00:25:28.480 Everything was weird.

00:25:30.540 And I think about it now, it's all weird to me.

00:25:33.240 But then, it wasn't because I was only 13, 14 years old.

00:25:37.160 Right.

00:25:37.360 I made mistakes.

00:25:39.100 I mean, I totally turned my life around.

00:25:41.220 I have four kids now.

00:25:42.760 Two green babies, but, you know.

00:25:46.180 I want to go back to, so what was weird about that night that you gave birth?

00:25:53.800 Oh, gosh.

00:25:55.120 The night before.

00:25:56.620 Okay, so they have a mother, a house, a live-in mother, 24 hours.

00:26:01.200 I called there, like, a month and a half ago, two months ago.

00:26:06.060 This is what's weird.

00:26:07.000 I called there right after I prayed I called there because this video of Erica came up

00:26:12.620 with Trump, and you have to get invited.

00:26:15.760 And I was like, how in the world did I get invited?

00:26:18.740 And to this day, I still don't know how in the world I got invited to that and what pictures

00:26:24.940 they had of me.

00:26:26.460 Interesting.

00:26:27.080 Now I'm shaking again.

00:26:28.420 Okay.

00:26:28.700 Okay, so you had the baby, and what was weird about that night?

00:26:35.280 Okay, the night before, they, okay, like I said, they have house mothers, and I can't

00:26:40.780 remember details, but I remember them doing, you know, putting the probe on, listening to

00:26:45.520 the heartbeat, pretty much, and looking at, you know, doing the ultrasound.

00:26:48.860 Mm-hmm.

00:26:49.460 Okay, to this day, I've had, you know, four other kids planning an ultrasound, so I know

00:26:55.040 what they were doing was funny to me, because everything was fine that night, and then they

00:27:01.400 moved me, which was weird, they moved me to another room by myself.

00:27:07.960 Okay.

00:27:08.760 At that time, I had had another girl with me.

00:27:11.400 There's all these girls, different girls there, and some of them don't even speak English,

00:27:16.140 okay?

00:27:16.440 How, how old are, um, uh, sorry, how, how many girls live in that house?

00:27:21.800 Um, back then, there was about, like, between 12 and 15 on one house, but you're talking

00:27:29.440 anywhere from age 12 to, like, 21 years old, you know.

00:27:34.140 Mm-hmm.

00:27:35.520 Um, I didn't get that, my mom's the youngest, but.

00:27:41.200 And some of them didn't speak English?

00:27:44.160 Yeah, um, there was a couple girls, you know, they didn't speak English, but we weren't allowed

00:27:48.340 to, that's another thing, we weren't allowed to, like, talk to the other girls, we were

00:27:53.660 only allowed, like, certain girls were on one, one certain side of the hallway, certain

00:27:58.540 girls were on the other certain side of the hallway, back then we had to either call collect

00:28:03.420 or use quarters.

00:28:05.500 Okay.

00:28:06.500 Mm-hmm.

00:28:06.740 Um, on a pay phone, you know.

00:28:09.060 Mm-hmm.

00:28:09.500 They didn't, they didn't want us to use the regular phones.

00:28:12.740 Mm-hmm.

00:28:13.240 They treated us like slaves, but the next morning, it's like they knew something was

00:28:19.680 going to happen to my baby or something, because the next morning, I all of a sudden didn't

00:28:24.280 have a heartbeat, and I had to go in, but the strange thing about it is their daughter,

00:28:29.640 this is another thing I thought about, their daughter is a high, uh, doctor at the Liberty

00:28:36.600 or at some university, some, um, hospital in Lynchburg, Virginia.

00:28:42.900 Okay.

00:28:43.940 And back then, if I remember correctly, their daughter was, like, one of the housemothers.

00:28:50.260 Okay.

00:28:50.900 And I'm wondering, if their daughter was, like, my nurse or nurse lady, they gave me

00:28:59.480 something to miscarry, because, see, the thing is, is they coerced us to give up the

00:29:06.400 baby because they got money for their adoption.

00:29:09.140 It was some kind of adoption ring.

00:29:10.460 I didn't know nothing about it.

00:29:11.940 Okay.

00:29:12.200 But my thing was, is that I kept telling them, no, I wanted to keep my baby because I had

00:29:18.280 a three-year-old nephew, and I had took care of him.

00:29:20.560 I thought I could mother, and it wasn't for me, okay?

00:29:25.080 Mm-hmm.

00:29:26.080 Honestly, I was too young.

00:29:27.920 Okay.

00:29:29.140 But, still, I have questions, because now I keep seeing stuff, and I'm like, why are these,

00:29:35.680 all these videos coming up on my feeds for no reason, you know?

00:29:39.960 Can I ask you a question?

00:29:41.900 Sure.

00:29:42.580 Are you saying that you miscarried the baby?

00:29:45.480 Yeah.

00:29:46.660 But I was further along, and they kept telling me I had to hurry up and make up my mind and

00:29:51.240 make up my decision, because I'm running out of time, and I have to hurry it up.

00:29:56.780 And I'm like, why do I have to hurry it up?

00:29:58.580 Hurry what up?

00:29:59.620 I'm sorry.

00:29:59.960 Hurry what up?

00:30:01.700 Decide if I want to adopt the baby out.

00:30:04.080 Okay.

00:30:04.260 They kept showing me folders of people's faces.

00:30:06.460 Would you like your baby to be with this person, or would you like to go raid your baby somewhere

00:30:13.480 on the streets?

00:30:15.740 Okay.

00:30:16.460 And then, here's a question for you.

00:30:18.740 Sure.

00:30:19.020 How far along were you when you miscarried?

00:30:23.900 You know, I was asking my mom that, and truthfully, I have called down there to find myself, to find

00:30:29.400 dates out, and I can't even find myself, actually, in their system.

00:30:32.820 That's another thing that's weird.

00:30:34.460 That's very scary.

00:30:36.140 I've called down there this past few weeks, just to find out information on myself.

00:30:40.760 I even called the home probation officer, which he called me back last night.

00:30:45.880 He was actually telling me information, and he told me, you know, back then, I wasn't a

00:30:52.500 bad kid.

00:30:53.060 I just skipped school, because I stayed home and stopped in.

00:30:56.680 My mom got in trouble for it.

00:30:58.740 I went and juiced for it.

00:30:59.840 I'm sorry.

00:31:00.340 Wait, but just, I just want to stick to the story of the, just to stay focused.

00:31:08.760 The, you don't know how pregnant you were when you had a miscarriage?

00:31:13.220 Um, I, well, I can tell you I was probably, well, I had, they had to induce the labor.

00:31:20.540 Okay.

00:31:20.820 They, I had to deliver, so if that tells you I was over three, four months.

00:31:26.260 Yeah.

00:31:27.360 I was over.

00:31:28.160 So let me tell you what is really interesting about this particular conversation.

00:31:35.200 Um, well, Liberty University is involved, and you hear, she broke down crying several

00:31:41.940 times throughout the conversation.

00:31:42.860 There was obviously real pain there, and what's really interesting is that she told me thereafter

00:31:47.400 that while she can pull all of her court records, Liberty University is sort of like,

00:31:52.940 you know, it's all electronic now.

00:31:54.880 You're talking about the nineties.

00:31:56.140 We can't find you.

00:31:56.860 We can't find you.

00:31:57.980 We had, you had a baby in a house when you were 13 years old and we can't find you.

00:32:02.620 By the way, where's the baby buried?

00:32:04.540 I asked that question to her and she said, what happened after she gave birth was they

00:32:09.320 told her, they called her mom and they said that she's got to go.

00:32:11.740 I said, how do you know the baby was dead?

00:32:13.560 You're telling me they moved you into a room and they induced labor after you said, I don't

00:32:19.520 want to give up my child.

00:32:20.640 They induced labor, they told you, a child, yourself, that there was no heartbeat mysteriously

00:32:25.720 right after you made the decision that you didn't want to give up your child for adoption.

00:32:31.520 You felt like you were being pressured.

00:32:33.000 Now there's no heartbeat.

00:32:34.440 They induce labor.

00:32:36.780 You never see your son.

00:32:38.140 That just said she had a son.

00:32:39.400 She never saw anything.

00:32:41.440 They tell your mom, she's got to pick you up ASAP.

00:32:44.020 That's what she goes on to tell me because they didn't want the other young women to be

00:32:48.960 traumatized learning that she had a miscarriage.

00:32:52.100 So in the middle of the night, her mom drives up and gets her, picks her up.

00:32:58.080 Funeral?

00:32:59.340 Is there a headstone?

00:33:00.240 What happens when there's a induced labor at Liberty University?

00:33:07.200 This is unbelievable.

00:33:08.760 Now, why she was triggered when she heard Erica speaking about Trump pageantry, to connect

00:33:15.800 that dot for you, is because Erica had said, you know, you have to submit your pictures.

00:33:21.480 Well, she goes back home.

00:33:22.940 She's still a teenager.

00:33:24.300 And two years later, she gets an invite to join Trump pageant world.

00:33:30.020 But she doesn't know how they got her picture.

00:33:32.140 She doesn't know how they got her picture.

00:33:33.240 She wasn't taking pictures.

00:33:34.040 She wasn't trying to be in pageant world.

00:33:35.840 And so that's what triggered her and what, wait a second, how did they get my picture?

00:33:39.280 Why were they taking these weird pictures?

00:33:41.420 She never said that they were sexual, by the way.

00:33:43.880 I'm sure they probably said to her at the time at that house, like, so that we can submit

00:33:48.200 your picture to the Christian adoptive families, whatever it is.

00:33:51.960 But it sort of clicked to her that that's kind of odd that I got this invitation to join

00:33:55.860 Trump pageant world.

00:33:56.860 Now, for those of you who have followed our Epstein series, we spoke about this.

00:34:02.180 Xavier Poussard showed that this was one of his mechanisms.

00:34:05.040 Jeffrey Epstein, Israel's guy, would go find organizations where there were tons of young

00:34:10.560 women that were coming through, and he would pump money into them, like Victoria's Secret.

00:34:16.280 And maybe some trafficking happened, right?

00:34:19.520 By the way, the history of pageantry, for those of you that don't know, it's child sex

00:34:23.440 trafficking.

00:34:24.060 It's the Carnies.

00:34:25.320 It's P.T.

00:34:26.060 Barnum and Bailey in America.

00:34:27.380 What was going on at carnivals, historically speaking, was very dark stuff.

00:34:31.700 Very dark stuff.

00:34:33.840 Anyways, in case you aren't believing the story, because we know what happens next.

00:34:37.120 They do the Mitch Snow thing.

00:34:38.760 Oh, she's crazy.

00:34:40.280 She's making this up.

00:34:41.240 It's all an illusion.

00:34:42.960 Well, the good thing is that there's actually an entire podcast series that is currently

00:34:48.600 investigating this godparent program at Liberty University.

00:34:52.140 And these women have done incredible work, so much work that it actually got picked up

00:34:58.680 locally in Virginia by ABC News.

00:35:01.800 Take a listen.

00:35:03.500 The Liberty Godparent Home, a place for young single pregnant women, is defending itself

00:35:07.980 against allegations of coercion and manipulation.

00:35:11.080 A new podcast called Liberty Lost alleges some of the young women felt pressured to place

00:35:16.960 their children for adoption.

00:35:18.760 ABC 13's Rachel Branning investigates.

00:35:22.140 The Liberty Godparent Home is tucked away on Liberty Mountain Drive.

00:35:27.920 The maternity home was founded by Jerry Falwell Sr. in the 80s as part of a pro-life ministry

00:35:34.000 at Thomas Road Baptist Church.

00:35:37.700 Now, it's the focal point of the podcast, Liberty Lost.

00:35:41.800 What inspired you to investigate this in the first place?

00:35:46.200 For the last two years, I've been investigating the maternity home after connecting with several

00:35:51.700 residents who went through the home as pregnant teenage girls, both in the 1990s and in 2008.

00:35:59.220 One of those residents, Abby Johnson.

00:36:01.760 At 16, she got pregnant.

00:36:03.980 Finding out I was pregnant was traumatic and shocking and not something I had any preparation

00:36:09.580 for mentally, socially, emotionally.

00:36:11.500 Her parents sent her across the country to Liberty Godparent Home with the promise of

00:36:16.380 a scholarship to Liberty University after all was said and done.

00:36:19.780 I really can't describe the sense of abandonment and fear and disassociation that you experience

00:36:26.180 when your family abandons you all the while calling it something like good for you and like

00:36:31.180 this is a plan.

00:36:32.520 Johnson says she wanted to keep her son.

00:36:35.380 However, she felt the home already made the decision to go the adoption route.

00:36:39.760 Did you ever really feel like you had a choice?

00:36:43.980 No, I felt that I was put in really terrifying moments of being given an opportunity to explain

00:36:52.780 to an adult that had a different opinion how I thought I could pull it off.

00:36:56.840 The Godparent Home declined my request for an interview but sent a statement saying in

00:37:01.440 part, quote,

00:37:02.520 Our staff and volunteers work tirelessly in this ministry and have built a reputation

00:37:07.020 of being a trusted voice and ministry resource in the community.

00:37:11.000 They have treated every individual who has sought assistance with compassion and integrity.

00:37:16.040 Did you feel supported in any way by the people within the home?

00:37:21.000 No, I felt endlessly put off.

00:37:23.340 Rafael says, in theory, maternity homes are a good thing.

00:37:27.680 These women should have been supported and provided with real options to keep and parent

00:37:32.420 their children if that's what they wanted to do.

00:37:34.840 But she says the Godparent Home shouldn't have ties to an adoption agency.

00:37:39.200 According to city records, the Godparent Home and the Family Life Services Adoption Agency

00:37:43.420 share an address.

00:37:44.980 Thomas Road Baptist Church founded Family Life Services, according to their website.

00:37:49.060 I reached out to them multiple times for comment about the allegations in the podcast.

00:37:56.700 We just want to make sure we're sharing all sides of this story.

00:37:59.380 But I haven't heard back.

00:38:01.140 Johnson and Rafael say for them, speaking out is the path forward.

00:38:05.700 Help people feel like they have a voice, that they're not forgotten.

00:38:11.040 I also reached out to the Godparent Home.

00:38:13.200 I asked if they can put me in contact with residents who have had a positive experience

00:38:17.400 in the home.

00:38:18.180 But at this point, I haven't gotten a response.

00:38:20.480 Back to you.

00:38:23.080 I would imagine that I would respond to that and I'd say, yeah, tons of people had a positive

00:38:26.640 experience.

00:38:27.520 And again, the woman that I spoke to, you can see she was there when it was Jerry Falwell

00:38:31.820 Sr., who we're going to speak about in a little bit because I'm going to connect even

00:38:36.320 more dots for you.

00:38:37.400 So, you know, what I want to say is we all felt, for some reason, spiritually sick watching

00:38:44.160 AmFest, right?

00:38:45.500 Tim, Dylan did such a good job of saying this feels like something else.

00:38:50.440 Like they just keep saying that this is about God and this is about the Lord and this is

00:38:57.220 about almost like they were trying to turn Charlie into a messianic figure.

00:39:02.320 And yet we felt darkness there.

00:39:04.100 We felt darkness.

00:39:05.480 We felt like this was actually about money.

00:39:06.960 We felt like we were being diluted.

00:39:09.080 We felt like it was a Las Vegas convention.

00:39:12.640 And I had been speaking throughout the last year, even before Charlie Kirk got assassinated.

00:39:17.380 I dedicate a lot of time in this podcast to speaking to you about this veneer of Christianity.

00:39:23.960 Operation Mocking Pastor, we termed it.

00:39:26.900 And we really saw them start to ratchet that up after Charlie Kirk's assassination.

00:39:32.700 These influencers.

00:39:34.740 Well, this is the Lord.

00:39:36.020 This is what the Lord would want.

00:39:38.240 Yeah.

00:39:38.980 We're going to talk more about that.

00:39:40.660 And I'm going to tell you more about the founding of Liberty University right after a brief break.

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00:41:38.440 So back to Liberty University.

00:41:40.520 Now, I have been signaling to you guys, like I said, that there is something very wrong with these mega churches in America.

00:41:46.820 There's very wrong with almost what I would term Christian Inc.

00:41:51.600 These Christian influencers, suddenly they look like they're glitching a bit, right?

00:41:55.940 Something happened in the last year, and we're like, oh, I used to kind of like you,

00:41:59.280 and now you seem to be glitching inside of this matrix.

00:42:03.140 You're telling us it's right here in the Bible.

00:42:05.500 You seem overly invested in certain narratives.

00:42:08.680 Suddenly, this is beginning to feel like, well, a psychological operation that's being orchestrated by Israel,

00:42:14.360 because you sort of missed it.

00:42:15.960 If your whole brand is Christianity, but you decided to stay mum on the atrocities that Israel is committing in Gaza,

00:42:22.520 this probably isn't really about Christianity, is it?

00:42:24.420 The Bible's pretty clear.

00:42:26.860 Thou shalt not kill.

00:42:29.120 Children especially, if I could offer an addendum.

00:42:33.180 Children especially.

00:42:34.680 Innocent souls.

00:42:35.900 And yet they're remarkably mum on the issue of Charlie Kirk.

00:42:39.680 They had more ire for Candice Owens investigating it than they did for the FBI.

00:42:45.600 No interest.

00:42:46.260 Shut it down.

00:42:47.660 Right?

00:42:48.120 Shut it down.

00:42:49.060 How dare you say he's Catholic?

00:42:50.380 That's what's wrong with this.

00:42:52.260 You saying anything about Catholicism is wrong.

00:42:55.220 Glitch.

00:42:55.660 Glitch.

00:42:56.800 Oh, Josh Hammer's lying.

00:42:57.920 Let me tell you he's a wonderful human being.

00:42:59.440 Glitch.

00:43:00.120 Glitch.

00:43:00.720 I'm sorry.

00:43:01.280 Lying.

00:43:02.420 Shouldn't you just be able to call a spade a spade?

00:43:05.220 No, they can't because they represent something else.

00:43:07.020 Now, I want to be clear.

00:43:07.620 I have spoken at Liberty University multiple times, and I promise you I never thought once to look up their origin story.

00:43:14.800 I was just so excited that there was a Christian university in general, and they were remarkable to me when I spoke there, and I wasn't looking, I guess, for anything deeper.

00:43:26.100 I didn't see how I was also being manipulated in various ways early on in my political career.

00:43:31.460 So color me surprised to learn that Liberty University was once failing, and then it received a ton of funding.

00:43:38.920 Honestly, the story of how it came to be, the university that it is today, is quite interesting.

00:43:43.720 Someone emailed me, and they wrote, and I quote,

00:43:46.640 Hi, Candace, I'm currently reading The Israel Lobby by John Mearsheimer, and in the book, it talks about how the Israeli government gave Jerry Falwell, Liberty University's founder, Jerry Falwell Sr., a $2 million jet in 1979.

00:44:04.400 Adjusted for inflation, that's like $10 million, and that was to gain support from evangelicals in America.

00:44:10.280 I figured it would be helpful for your deep dive of Israel buying evangelicals, end quote.

00:44:15.160 Oh, that's interesting. That tip does seem like something I should explore. Probably is helpful.

00:44:21.900 And it's true. Jerry Falwell Sr., I should tell you, had a rather radical conversion to Christianity when Israel became a nation in 1948.

00:44:33.980 Now, prior to that, this is according to the Washington Post, he came from a family that definitely had some issues.

00:44:39.720 His daddy, a man named Cary Hezekiah, was a drunk, and he was a bootlegger, okay?

00:44:47.520 He was a bootlegger, and he was a drunk, and he got into a fight with his brother once.

00:44:53.460 This is literally his brother. His name was Garland, and he shot him dead.

00:44:57.580 And to be even clearer here, his dad wasn't just a bootlegger. Cary was not just a bootlegger.

00:45:03.300 He was also a smuggler and a trafficker, okay?

00:45:05.900 So he pretended like he was just a business owner that was running a string of gas stations, ostensibly.

00:45:11.380 But in reality, he was using his fuel trucks to smuggle bootleg whiskey into America during the time of Prohibition.

00:45:17.900 And it's giving Trogno liquors, you know, as we started getting into season two of Becoming Brigitte.

00:45:23.740 I'm like, wow, a lot of people were smuggling things into America.

00:45:27.340 Anyways, I keep telling you guys that the people that rule over us, the people that have these huge platforms,

00:45:34.320 they are not smarter than us. They're just more corrupt than us.

00:45:38.500 They're willing to do anything to maintain their power.

00:45:40.580 And they really are the heirs of gangsters.

00:45:46.520 Back to Cary, after he shot his brother dead, he became a rather nasty alcoholic.

00:45:51.980 His employee, one time, this is a true story as documented by Rolling Stone,

00:45:57.740 his employee stayed home sick one day, so Falwell got mad.

00:46:01.360 He decided to catch the man's cat that he loved, and he killed the cat.

00:46:06.060 Then he cooked the cat, and then he delivered the remains of the cat to the employee's house for lunch.

00:46:14.760 Yeah, that's why I went with the thumbnail title, Don't F with Cats,

00:46:18.360 because now we have to find Charlie Kirk's murderer, for those of you who watched that series.

00:46:24.560 Now, according to Forbes, he also once threw a man into a bear cage

00:46:28.660 after he had an argument with him at one of his restaurants.

00:46:32.080 So, yeah, he had a colorful background indeed.

00:46:34.600 Like I said, these people are gangsters.

00:46:37.820 In 1948, the very year that Israel became a nation,

00:46:41.140 Cary Hezekiah died from cirrhosis of the liver,

00:46:44.460 and his son, Jerry Falwell Sr., had an immediate radical conversion to Christianity.

00:46:50.020 Bootlegging, trafficking, smuggling, be damned,

00:46:52.580 because his business was now going to be the church ministering.

00:46:55.760 He became a televangelist, and he established Lynchburg College in 1971,

00:47:01.200 which would eventually change its name to Liberty University, Liberty University that we know today.

00:47:07.320 And yes, it is true.

00:47:08.440 In 1979, Jerry Falwell Sr. was gifted a Learjet from the founder of the Likud Party,

00:47:15.680 then Prime Minister of Israel, Medekim Begin.

00:47:18.720 Now, that's pretty nice of Israel.

00:47:23.040 But I'm always wondering, in exchange for what?

00:47:26.580 Like, in exchange for what?

00:47:28.600 Because that kind of reminds me about how Bibi Netanyahu wanted to take Turning Point USA to the next level.

00:47:35.420 He offered to take Turning Point USA to the next level.

00:47:37.540 Charlie Kirk said no.

00:47:39.580 But apparently, nobody in the mainstream media is interested in answering the question

00:47:44.220 as to why he wanted to take Turning Point USA to the next level.

00:47:49.100 What does Israel have to do with young evangelicals, a young evangelical organization?

00:47:55.600 Also, how?

00:47:56.540 That's my other big question.

00:47:57.800 How exactly was he planning to get that money to Turning Point USA?

00:48:00.580 I'm assuming he wasn't going to write, like, a blank check from the Likud Party.

00:48:03.480 Surely, he was going to accomplish that through other people and their organizations

00:48:11.160 because Israel never gets their hands dirty if they can avoid it.

00:48:14.820 That's the lesson of yesterday, by the way.

00:48:16.700 You employ Christians to do your dirty work.

00:48:20.760 And I got another clue from a different email tip that I received regarding Liberty University.

00:48:25.100 It reads,

00:48:25.480 Hi, Candace.

00:48:26.620 I have some links that might be important for you in your investigation regarding connections

00:48:32.460 between the Iran-Contra scandal and Liberty University.

00:48:37.200 Now, to remind you, the Iran-Contra scandal was a trafficking scandal that involved our government,

00:48:42.580 the CIA.

00:48:43.700 Of course, the Mossad, Jeffrey Epstein, was involved in the Iran-Contra scandal.

00:48:47.860 If the Mossad is to be believed, that's how they first brought him in, running weapons

00:48:52.840 through South America, and the CIA and the Mossad got caught involving.

00:48:59.480 They were trying to control what was happening in South America.

00:49:02.680 And, yeah, they were arming people to take over countries.

00:49:07.460 That's kind of what our CIA does.

00:49:08.920 Anyways, the reason how this involves Liberty University is that during the Iran-Contra scandal,

00:49:14.580 as the email goes on, a man named Sun Young Moon, a North Korean evangelical cult leader,

00:49:23.540 assisted the CIA in its so-called anti-communist efforts.

00:49:28.540 That's how they build what they were doing during the Iran-Contra scandal in Central America.

00:49:33.980 He used his logistics network through the churches to aid the Contras through his unification church.

00:49:41.720 He connected, and their connected organizations like CA USA.

00:49:46.260 And he also ran PR for the Reagan administration regarding U.S.'s involvement in Central America

00:49:52.120 through his newspaper, The Washington Times.

00:49:55.820 Okay, so what's important is that this Sun Young Moon later would bail Liberty University out.

00:50:03.960 The person in the email said roughly the amount was $20 to $40 million in the mid-1990s.

00:50:09.420 Now, I find it extremely interesting—I mean, sorry, this person wrote to me,

00:50:13.860 I find it extremely interesting that the same evangelical cult leader who worked with federal agencies

00:50:19.100 and profited from the Iran-Contra scandal also financially rescued Liberty University

00:50:24.820 and how Liberty University might be connected to the drug-smuggling military base he's referring to, Fort Huachuca.

00:50:31.880 That was the reason he sent the email discussing Fort Huachuca.

00:50:34.600 Interesting indeed, I would say, because we've got a story about the feds smuggling, Christianity, Israel, South Korea.

00:50:44.600 Did all that actually happen?

00:50:46.120 Yeah, it did actually happen.

00:50:48.440 And The Washington Post did a fantastic article breaking down what became known as the Moon Cult,

00:50:53.880 an article that they published in 1997 as that cult was beginning to fade,

00:50:59.820 or I guess their power was beginning to fade here in America.

00:51:04.100 And it's stunning because if you close your eyes and imagine,

00:51:07.480 you start to see Turning Point USA and Turning Point USA faith, everything that I've been describing.

00:51:12.860 I kept saying from the very beginning, what went raw in that Turning Point USA was this faith push.

00:51:18.640 I've been telling you, and I'm going to show you that these Egyptian planes, I've showed you in part,

00:51:23.240 were tracking Turning Point USA faith, these pastors, okay?

00:51:27.380 What's going on with these, quote-unquote, Egyptian planes that happen to look like they're going into Gaza, actually?

00:51:33.860 So I'm going to read you parts of this article regarding the Reverend Sun Moon, his unification church.

00:51:41.320 He declared himself just, you know, a messiah.

00:51:43.360 Yeah, so when we start to see how it feels like they were trying to establish Charlie as a messianic figure,

00:51:49.200 and it's all become somehow about money, they don't actually care about Charlie.

00:51:52.760 It's like, how much money can we make?

00:51:55.280 We're going to put the tent up.

00:51:56.260 We're going to make it people just, here's the bloody mic.

00:52:00.200 We're putting it in a thing.

00:52:01.200 It feels, like I said, a seance.

00:52:03.280 I'm wanting to imagine that as I tell you about what Sun Moon's unification church accomplished in America, rather.

00:52:10.140 And yes, attached to the Iran-Contra affair and Israel, and pumping money into Liberty University.

00:52:15.920 Okay, now it tells us that their unification church was faltering as a religion in the United States,

00:52:21.760 but it still remains a robust, diverse business.

00:52:23.960 Again, this is 1997, especially in the Washington area,

00:52:27.840 where the movement controls more than 300 million in commercial, political, and cultural enterprises.

00:52:34.340 It tells us that the organizations owned or sponsored by Moon and his inner circle of Korean and American followers

00:52:42.520 holds properties stretching from Prince George to Fairfax County, according to corporate property and court records.

00:52:50.360 This vast and bewildering multinational could be called Moon Inc.

00:52:55.260 It is a sprawling collection of churches, non-profit foundations, and for-profit holding companies.

00:53:01.460 In the Washington area, the unification church's investment is an important cog in a global machine that Moon uses

00:53:09.140 to boost his credibility, spread his spiritual doctrine, and win political influence,

00:53:14.720 according to current and former church members.

00:53:17.480 As the unification movement evolved from selling roses on street corners

00:53:21.160 to acquiring control of a nationwide cable channel,

00:53:24.740 the nation's capital became the epicenter of Moon's U.S. holdings.

00:53:29.480 Those include the Washington Times, Washington Times newspaper,

00:53:36.820 a video production firm, a stately old church, once the pride of the Mormons,

00:53:41.480 along 16th Street Northwest, Washington area property owned by the church,

00:53:46.120 its affiliated companies or senior church officials,

00:53:49.140 is worth more than $200 million, according to property and corporate records.

00:53:53.740 A lot of property.

00:53:54.720 I was telling you, Turning Point's getting into real estate.

00:53:57.420 It's very interesting.

00:53:57.960 They're getting into real estate, according to a tip that I have,

00:54:01.040 because they're going to teach young conservatives how to buy houses, I'm sure.

00:54:06.140 Tyler Boyer leading the charge.

00:54:08.860 Washington will be the focus of the worldwide unification movement this week,

00:54:13.800 as Moon-sponsored organizations are going to hold a series of academic conferences

00:54:18.720 and the World Sports and Culture Festival, culminating Saturday with a mass wedding at RFK Stadium.

00:54:26.260 The South Korean self-declared messiah has grown increasingly vehement within the unification movement.

00:54:32.780 Moon's spiritual and business ventures are viewed as a part of a unified whole.

00:54:38.040 Quote,

00:54:38.300 The corporate section is understood to be the engine that funds the mission of the church.

00:54:53.380 I am telling you, this is like almost verbatim.

00:54:56.800 If you were to read statements about Turning Point USA and their spinoffs,

00:54:59.860 we need the money to do the work.

00:55:01.740 This is what we're going to do.

00:55:02.440 It's going to be the 501c3, the 501c4, and Turning Point action.

00:55:06.620 This is where it's all going to come together.

00:55:09.680 It goes on to tell us that since the 1970s,

00:55:11.600 Moon has gained his highest profile in this country,

00:55:14.600 not with his church, but with the Times,

00:55:16.580 the 100,000 circulation daily that competes with the Washington Post.

00:55:22.140 But the paper has become an established voice of conservative America.

00:55:25.260 Beyond the Times, Moon-affiliated entities are linked

00:55:28.100 by a complex web of interlocking directorships

00:55:31.620 and nurtured by a seemingly endless flow of cash from the Far East.

00:55:38.120 That has enabled them to buy new businesses

00:55:40.700 and even help to bail out Reverend Jerry Falwell's

00:55:45.020 Foundering Liberty University.

00:55:46.700 Again, this is 1997.

00:55:49.240 Executives of unification-related entities

00:55:51.720 have acknowledged that money from Japan and Korea

00:55:55.260 are fueling their U.S. operations.

00:55:58.460 But the magnitude and the mechanism of those payments,

00:56:01.200 as well as their exact sources,

00:56:03.080 have eluded investigators on three continents

00:56:06.000 over the past three decades.

00:56:07.760 Let me slow that down for you.

00:56:09.540 So you're telling me we have a faith-based organization

00:56:12.420 with a political arm that is stretched into evangelical churches

00:56:17.820 that's working with Israel

00:56:20.980 and helping the CIA traffic arms at one point

00:56:26.160 through churches and the presence of their church.

00:56:28.760 And now you're telling me that

00:56:30.020 when they started looking into where this money was coming from,

00:56:32.700 it's actually eluding them

00:56:34.120 how the money is coming from Japan and Korea.

00:56:37.540 And wasn't that Charlie's last trip?

00:56:39.360 It was early.

00:56:39.860 He went to Korea.

00:56:40.680 We're going to get to that.

00:56:41.920 And then after he went to Korea and met with a pastor,

00:56:44.100 that pastor got arrested.

00:56:45.700 Again, we're going to get to that.

00:56:46.640 And then after he went to Korea, he went to Japan.

00:56:49.960 I'm just saying the past is feeling like it's a bit prologue.

00:56:54.740 I was Charlie going to a buildup.

00:56:56.440 What does Charlie Kirk have to do with Korea?

00:56:59.840 Turning point in faith, pushing you into Korea.

00:57:02.340 A lot going on in South Korea, by the way.

00:57:04.260 Like, LOL.

00:57:04.920 I saw this article about

00:57:06.120 how they suddenly established a Holocaust museum.

00:57:09.660 I was like, there goes the neighborhood.

00:57:11.780 Do we have that article?

00:57:13.220 Yeah.

00:57:13.580 South Korean Christian Zionists

00:57:15.220 opened the country's first Holocaust museum.

00:57:18.460 I should add that to my timeline

00:57:19.720 because there goes the neighborhood.

00:57:22.580 We're coming.

00:57:23.580 You can't question anything.

00:57:24.940 We're going to call you Hitler.

00:57:26.800 Sorry, South Korea.

00:57:28.000 You're so cooked.

00:57:29.560 Okay.

00:57:30.700 Anyways, jumping back into this article

00:57:32.580 before I show you what happened

00:57:33.860 when Charlie went to Korea

00:57:34.860 and a pastor then got arrested.

00:57:37.980 It tells us that Moon Inc.

00:57:42.300 Sorry, let me flip this.

00:57:43.480 Wrong side.

00:57:45.460 Moon's businesses exist for several purposes.

00:57:49.020 Church leaders and critics agree

00:57:50.420 to employ members to gain influence

00:57:52.920 in industries that Moon considers crucial

00:57:55.200 and to support Moon's spiritual and political agenda.

00:57:58.780 Sometimes that support is direct

00:58:00.900 as when Moon's nonprofit organizations

00:58:03.440 contribute to conservative political

00:58:05.160 and social causes with financial donations,

00:58:07.960 staff, and publicity.

00:58:09.220 And sometimes it's indirect

00:58:10.640 as when Moon-sponsored groups

00:58:12.660 stage academic, religious, and cultural conferences

00:58:15.440 inviting professors, clergy, media executives,

00:58:19.040 and other opinion shapers to meetings,

00:58:22.360 all expenses paid.

00:58:23.420 Oh, that reminds me of Turning Point USA Faith.

00:58:25.280 I told you they were embarking on this pastor summit.

00:58:27.540 They were going to bring all of these

00:58:28.520 Christian Zionist influencers, training.

00:58:31.660 They had a pastor summit led by Rob McCoy,

00:58:34.760 as I showed you that.

00:58:35.520 Sean Foyt, they were going to lead this up,

00:58:37.820 pumping in money.

00:58:38.560 This is what was growing,

00:58:39.360 Turning Point Faith,

00:58:40.200 which was spun out of Liberty University.

00:58:43.040 So this feels especially relevant.

00:58:46.040 It goes on to say that they'll have a conference

00:58:47.580 on the essence of religious founders.

00:58:50.400 This is a guy who was an ex-Catholic priest.

00:58:53.460 His name was Borderlin.

00:58:55.760 He says, quote,

00:58:56.700 they'll have a conference on the essence

00:58:58.260 of religious founders like Buddha, Jesus,

00:59:01.100 and then Moon gets a room full of academics

00:59:04.300 to sit there.

00:59:05.520 He gets his picture taken with them.

00:59:07.480 He gets credibility.

00:59:08.820 They get to have their conference.

00:59:10.140 It's all very messy, end quote.

00:59:12.140 Borderlin, like many people who have received

00:59:14.180 some of Moon's generous bounty,

00:59:16.580 has never been able to figure out

00:59:17.860 the blizzard of organizations

00:59:19.480 that make up Moon Inc.

00:59:21.620 He says, quote,

00:59:23.780 my money is never from the church itself.

00:59:26.340 It's always the international something or another.

00:59:30.980 That's interesting,

00:59:32.120 because when we started looking into

00:59:33.840 Operation Mocking Pastored,

00:59:34.980 we had that lead,

00:59:35.960 that it was coming from one of these fellowship,

00:59:39.080 international fellowships,

00:59:40.400 or whatever,

00:59:41.220 ICJF,

00:59:42.480 I don't remember what it was.

00:59:43.660 Point is,

00:59:44.140 it's like there's all these

00:59:44.980 international fellowship

00:59:47.020 of Christians and Jews,

00:59:48.740 and they're pumping money

00:59:50.460 with an explicit purpose.

00:59:51.700 In fact,

00:59:52.000 you'll be very proud to know.

00:59:53.560 When I worked at the Daily Wire,

00:59:54.900 they used to bring me companies

00:59:56.320 like AdReads,

00:59:57.220 and they brought me

00:59:57.960 the International Fellowship

00:59:59.880 of Christian and Jews

01:00:00.740 to read ads for.

01:00:01.900 And so I said to my producer

01:00:02.800 at the time,

01:00:03.240 I said, well,

01:00:03.560 what is this actually?

01:00:04.960 Let's pull it up.

01:00:06.320 Okay,

01:00:06.560 because I was allowed to decline

01:00:07.620 an ad read if I had a moral,

01:00:09.600 if I felt like I was morally averse to it.

01:00:12.700 And so I pulled up the website,

01:00:15.480 and it was basically,

01:00:16.640 here's what you Christians

01:00:17.460 can do for Jews.

01:00:18.880 And I said,

01:00:19.300 this doesn't feel like a fellowship,

01:00:20.880 so no.

01:00:22.140 I'm a Christian.

01:00:23.360 I'm not going to get to work.

01:00:24.360 We have tons of issues.

01:00:25.380 They're not saying

01:00:26.120 what they're going to do

01:00:26.540 in the Congo

01:00:27.140 or how they're going to help

01:00:29.620 with what's going on

01:00:30.640 all around the world,

01:00:31.340 Armenia,

01:00:31.820 so why would I just read ads for it?

01:00:34.200 There's something going on

01:00:34.760 with that organization,

01:00:35.380 by the way.

01:00:36.080 They've got their hands in a lot.

01:00:36.960 Anyways,

01:00:37.380 that's how they were doing this.

01:00:39.200 They were paying this guy,

01:00:40.400 but it wasn't actually coming

01:00:41.440 from Moon,

01:00:42.700 Moon's church.

01:00:44.520 It was coming from

01:00:45.380 international something or another.

01:00:46.880 That's how you hide the money.

01:00:49.100 It goes on to read

01:00:49.700 on one corridor,

01:00:51.000 the International Coalition

01:00:52.780 for Religious Freedom,

01:00:54.140 the group that Bordelin said

01:00:55.200 signs his checks these days,

01:00:57.660 shares a suite

01:00:58.340 with the Martial Arts Federation

01:00:59.900 for World Peace,

01:01:01.480 and a company called

01:01:02.420 Washington Times Aviation.

01:01:04.640 The only person in the suite

01:01:05.760 on a recent visit

01:01:06.820 was a Korean man

01:01:08.380 who spoke little English,

01:01:09.800 saying,

01:01:10.640 I am Martial Arts Federation.

01:01:13.000 I work for Father.

01:01:15.780 Okay.

01:01:19.500 Then tells us that Moon's

01:01:20.860 Washington enterprises

01:01:22.360 range from a ballet academy

01:01:24.120 to an architectural

01:01:25.220 molding company

01:01:26.420 to magazines.

01:01:28.740 They said,

01:01:29.480 quote,

01:01:29.600 the idea was that

01:01:30.420 we'd be like Disney,

01:01:31.880 controlling all kinds

01:01:32.840 of media,

01:01:33.660 working on behalf

01:01:35.140 of God.

01:01:36.280 Always.

01:01:37.440 Always.

01:01:39.100 Paquette,

01:01:39.700 whose job

01:01:40.960 gave him access

01:01:42.040 to financial information

01:01:43.280 about several

01:01:43.940 church-related businesses,

01:01:45.080 said he believed

01:01:45.920 that virtually

01:01:46.920 none of the

01:01:47.780 Unification's

01:01:48.880 U.S. operations

01:01:49.760 is profitable.

01:01:51.000 You have all these businesses

01:01:51.880 and none of them are profitable?

01:01:53.120 Where's the money coming from?

01:01:53.960 How's that work, actually?

01:01:55.680 And isn't it starting to sound

01:01:56.760 like the Seven Mountain mandate?

01:01:58.420 These pastors,

01:01:59.220 we've got to have an interest

01:02:00.280 in culturally here and there.

01:02:01.760 We've got to be everywhere.

01:02:03.540 And Turning Point's

01:02:04.060 going to help us get there.

01:02:05.800 It's very interesting.

01:02:07.000 Where is the money

01:02:08.120 coming from

01:02:09.140 and where is it going

01:02:09.980 was one of Charlie Kirk's

01:02:10.940 last questions

01:02:11.780 before he was assassinated.

01:02:13.440 He established Doge

01:02:14.220 to determine that answer.

01:02:16.780 They decided to investigate

01:02:18.200 Moon Organization in 1978.

01:02:20.140 In 1978,

01:02:20.900 congressional investigation

01:02:21.800 into the Moon Organization

01:02:23.340 concluded

01:02:23.920 that, quote,

01:02:25.120 the Unification Church

01:02:26.180 and numerous other

01:02:27.820 religious and secular

01:02:28.600 organizations headed

01:02:29.580 by Sun Moon

01:02:30.780 constitute essentially

01:02:32.640 one international organization

01:02:35.380 that moved money freely

01:02:37.220 among its entities.

01:02:41.860 SEC filings show

01:02:43.440 that the cash

01:02:44.300 for Nostalgia,

01:02:46.360 that's one of their companies,

01:02:47.280 comes through a chain

01:02:48.680 of companies

01:02:49.420 that lead to

01:02:50.740 the Unification Church

01:02:52.040 International.

01:02:52.660 It's a vertically

01:02:53.540 integrated operation

01:02:55.080 that is common

01:02:56.440 in Moon's empire.

01:02:58.420 He goes on to tell us,

01:02:59.240 this is my favorite quotation,

01:03:01.080 because it's just so

01:03:03.120 mega church vibes.

01:03:04.300 Like, you know,

01:03:04.620 you find $300,000

01:03:05.640 behind

01:03:06.260 a sink

01:03:08.480 or a toilet.

01:03:10.860 Tells us, quote,

01:03:12.860 Rev Moon

01:03:13.700 sent bags of cash,

01:03:15.200 big fat bags,

01:03:16.360 stacks and stacks

01:03:17.120 of hundreds,

01:03:18.040 from Korea

01:03:18.660 and Japan

01:03:19.840 to Manhattan Center.

01:03:22.000 The church's

01:03:22.540 recording studio

01:03:23.280 in New York City,

01:03:24.280 Paquette said,

01:03:25.020 whenever we asked

01:03:25.920 where that money

01:03:26.740 was coming from,

01:03:27.580 the answer

01:03:28.200 was that it came

01:03:29.580 from the father.

01:03:31.500 Okay.

01:03:32.840 I think we're good on that.

01:03:34.600 I'm sure it did.

01:03:36.120 The wealth of Unification's

01:03:37.320 worldwide economic empire

01:03:38.700 remains

01:03:39.180 a closely guarded secret.

01:03:41.680 Lawrence Ziliox,

01:03:42.700 a private investigator

01:03:43.660 who has studied the church

01:03:44.760 for more than a decade,

01:03:46.320 has concluded

01:03:47.000 from church documents

01:03:48.260 that the Unification Church

01:03:49.540 International,

01:03:50.420 the main holding company

01:03:51.480 for Moon's U.S. businesses,

01:03:53.960 exceeded $500 million

01:03:55.980 in the mid-1980s.

01:03:58.680 Man,

01:03:59.500 who took Moon Inc.

01:04:01.000 to the next level?

01:04:02.760 But the church's wealth

01:04:04.040 has always been centered

01:04:05.040 in Asia.

01:04:06.600 A detailed analysis

01:04:07.500 by the Far Eastern

01:04:08.800 Economic Review

01:04:09.640 in 1990

01:04:10.560 valued the church's

01:04:12.300 land holdings

01:04:13.020 in South Korea alone

01:04:14.100 at more than $1 billion.

01:04:15.940 In recent years, though,

01:04:16.960 several of the Korean companies

01:04:18.240 have lost money,

01:04:19.860 causing business experts

01:04:21.000 there to wonder,

01:04:22.100 like their counterparts

01:04:23.020 in America,

01:04:24.240 where the money

01:04:25.020 comes from.

01:04:27.580 Charlie Kirk,

01:04:28.300 where is the money

01:04:28.940 coming from

01:04:29.580 and where is it going to?

01:04:30.820 Charlie Kirk is in Korea,

01:04:31.760 he's in Japan,

01:04:32.460 and he's being told

01:04:33.780 that he's there

01:04:34.380 for reasons

01:04:35.040 that have to do

01:04:35.540 with the Christian faith

01:04:36.420 being suppressed.

01:04:38.140 And I don't think

01:04:38.640 that's why they had him there,

01:04:39.600 to be honest with you.

01:04:40.400 I don't think that's why

01:04:41.680 they pushed for Charlie

01:04:42.800 to go to Korea

01:04:43.480 and to Tokyo.

01:04:45.300 The long-standing explanation

01:04:48.240 as to where the money

01:04:49.080 comes from,

01:04:50.620 where the money

01:04:51.800 was going to,

01:04:52.440 it is Japan,

01:04:53.560 not Korea,

01:04:54.420 that provides the bulk

01:04:55.440 of the church's wealth,

01:04:57.120 as much as 70%

01:04:58.340 church observers

01:04:59.480 estimate.

01:05:00.960 They can't get

01:05:01.320 to the bottom of that.

01:05:02.120 They don't know.

01:05:02.680 They don't know

01:05:03.060 the answer to that.

01:05:04.760 Yet despite years

01:05:05.640 of such legal

01:05:06.760 and financial troubles,

01:05:08.380 the unification movement

01:05:09.360 continues to pump

01:05:10.440 hundreds of millions

01:05:11.420 of dollars

01:05:11.920 into existing businesses

01:05:13.540 and new ventures

01:05:14.200 all around the world.

01:05:15.000 It's just a bottomless

01:05:16.000 pit of money.

01:05:17.000 Nobody knows

01:05:17.300 where it's coming from.

01:05:18.800 According to business analysts

01:05:19.900 and academics

01:05:20.460 who study the church,

01:05:23.040 Moon's most ambitious

01:05:24.260 foray into the political

01:05:25.960 process in recent years

01:05:27.320 was the American

01:05:28.640 Freedom Coalition,

01:05:30.120 a conservative group

01:05:30.840 that built popular support

01:05:32.420 for Colonel Oliver L. North

01:05:35.500 during the Iran-Contra probe.

01:05:39.160 In addition

01:05:39.700 to about $5 million,

01:05:42.060 unificationists provided

01:05:43.280 the personnel

01:05:43.840 that gave the coalition

01:05:45.460 its grassroots strength,

01:05:48.060 former church members said,

01:05:49.300 ah, yes, of course,

01:05:50.580 you've got to build,

01:05:51.780 got to be able to help

01:05:52.540 the colonels,

01:05:53.300 got to have a military

01:05:54.140 angle here.

01:05:55.240 And so that has been

01:05:56.180 their most ambitious,

01:05:57.400 building something

01:05:58.740 that actually helped

01:06:00.580 the Iran-Contra,

01:06:03.180 people that were implicated.

01:06:05.560 It tells us also,

01:06:06.280 in 1995,

01:06:07.020 the Women's Federation

01:06:07.740 made another donation.

01:06:08.780 That's another arm

01:06:10.360 of this church.

01:06:11.420 A donation that illustrates

01:06:12.500 how Moon supports

01:06:13.920 his fellow conservatives.

01:06:14.860 It gave $3.5 million grants

01:06:17.300 to the Christian Heritage Foundation,

01:06:19.240 which later brought

01:06:20.220 a portion of Liberty University's debt,

01:06:22.920 rescuing Reverend Jerry Falwell's

01:06:26.120 Lynchburg Virginia Religious School

01:06:27.460 from the brink of bankruptcy.

01:06:29.900 The post has learned

01:06:30.640 of more recent

01:06:31.480 and direct financial support

01:06:33.000 from Moon to Falwell.

01:06:35.120 Last year,

01:06:35.980 New World Communications,

01:06:36.900 which is a parent company

01:06:38.620 of the money-losing

01:06:40.480 Washington Times,

01:06:41.700 lent $400,000

01:06:42.680 into Liberty

01:06:44.220 at a 6% interest,

01:06:46.040 according to

01:06:46.940 the promissory note.

01:06:48.540 So the point of all of this

01:06:49.540 is that to get money,

01:06:51.000 it's a web.

01:06:52.980 It's a financial web

01:06:54.860 that took one investigator

01:06:57.080 10 years

01:06:57.960 to still not figure out

01:06:59.500 how all of this money

01:07:00.780 is happening.

01:07:01.360 And that's what it feels like

01:07:02.620 Turning Point USA

01:07:03.280 has become a very complex

01:07:04.960 financial web

01:07:06.180 where money is coming in

01:07:07.560 and money is going out

01:07:08.340 and every dollar

01:07:08.860 is being spent

01:07:09.600 and money is going back

01:07:10.540 to certain people

01:07:11.140 and there are kickbacks

01:07:12.140 and it feels like

01:07:13.700 very sophisticated

01:07:15.740 money laundering

01:07:17.100 when I read

01:07:18.240 what happened

01:07:19.620 with Moon Inc.

01:07:21.000 and I compare it

01:07:22.420 to what seems

01:07:23.580 to be happening

01:07:24.260 at Turning Point USA.

01:07:25.760 It feels like

01:07:26.640 the company grew bigger

01:07:27.620 than Charlie Kirk

01:07:28.500 and then they were ready

01:07:29.620 to go to the next level.

01:07:30.560 Maybe they were

01:07:31.060 represented with an opportunity

01:07:32.840 to become Moon Inc.

01:07:34.720 and maybe Charlie said

01:07:36.960 no.

01:07:39.140 Maybe.

01:07:41.100 Anyways,

01:07:41.720 back to Korea.

01:07:42.760 Yeah,

01:07:43.120 Charlie's last trip.

01:07:44.500 He went to go meet

01:07:46.220 with a pastor

01:07:47.880 and Charlie,

01:07:49.380 the way it was pitched

01:07:49.840 to Charlie

01:07:50.380 was that they were suffering,

01:07:51.980 Christians were suffering

01:07:52.700 in Korea

01:07:53.080 because they want

01:07:54.220 to get engaged

01:07:54.680 into politics

01:07:55.240 and like,

01:07:55.940 you know,

01:07:56.260 Christians want to vote

01:07:57.660 what Christians

01:07:58.500 are concerned about.

01:07:59.940 But again,

01:08:00.360 I don't think

01:08:01.240 that's why the McCoys

01:08:02.300 were pushing

01:08:02.920 for Charlie

01:08:04.100 to go to Korea

01:08:04.740 because,

01:08:06.080 you know,

01:08:06.600 they just got

01:08:07.020 a Holocaust museum.

01:08:08.120 And I don't think

01:08:08.660 much Holocaust stuff

01:08:09.660 happened in Korea.

01:08:11.160 Feels like maybe

01:08:12.160 Korea's getting infiltrated

01:08:13.220 like America

01:08:13.640 got infiltrated.

01:08:14.620 I mean,

01:08:14.820 you can guess

01:08:15.500 how extensive

01:08:16.840 the infiltration is

01:08:17.720 by guessing

01:08:18.300 how extensive

01:08:19.980 the Holocaust education is

01:08:21.340 is what I would say.

01:08:22.720 That's kind of the lesson

01:08:23.540 that I'm looking back

01:08:24.300 and I'm going,

01:08:24.660 that's kind of weird

01:08:25.040 we didn't learn about this

01:08:25.940 at school.

01:08:26.860 We had to learn about that.

01:08:29.260 Yeah.

01:08:29.400 You have to stab this yourself

01:08:31.880 as the ultimate victims

01:08:33.680 before you do

01:08:34.800 the ultimate oppressing

01:08:35.780 vibes.

01:08:36.720 I don't know.

01:08:37.280 Anyways,

01:08:38.180 I'll let you read about

01:08:39.580 or I rather see

01:08:40.640 this is the headline

01:08:41.260 from the Korean Herald

01:08:42.200 how pro-union pastor

01:08:44.100 was arrested

01:08:44.640 for breaking election law.

01:08:46.200 He was arrested

01:08:46.720 on September 9th.

01:08:47.960 Now to remind you,

01:08:48.860 Charlie

01:08:49.280 was

01:08:51.080 there

01:08:52.240 on the 4th

01:08:53.280 and the 5th

01:08:53.860 for the Build Up Korea

01:08:54.840 conference.

01:08:55.460 So days later

01:08:56.000 he got arrested

01:08:56.580 and the rhetoric

01:08:58.040 that he was using

01:08:58.860 is interesting.

01:09:00.740 It's very interesting.

01:09:02.220 Take a look

01:09:02.960 at this news clip.

01:09:06.580 I'm sorry, Skyler.

01:09:08.500 Turning overseas,

01:09:09.600 we've been following

01:09:10.120 the case of

01:09:10.720 South Korean pastor

01:09:11.720 Yunbo Sun.

01:09:13.260 His imprisonment

01:09:14.020 has raised concerns

01:09:14.900 about religious freedom

01:09:16.020 in South Korea.

01:09:17.480 The case recently

01:09:18.300 gained more attention

01:09:19.260 when his son Chance

01:09:20.660 spoke in Arizona

01:09:21.680 at Turning Point USA's

01:09:23.460 AmFest.

01:09:24.680 Asia correspondent

01:09:25.440 Lucille Toulouse

01:09:26.360 spoke with him

01:09:27.200 following that appearance.

01:09:28.860 where he spoke

01:09:30.280 about his father's case.

01:09:32.420 Pastor Yunbo Sun

01:09:33.860 remains jailed

01:09:34.960 in South Korea

01:09:35.960 on election law charges

01:09:37.960 and has drawn attention

01:09:39.640 from the Korean administration

01:09:41.480 for his stance

01:09:42.840 on biblical truths.

01:09:44.600 So firstly,

01:09:45.900 I would like to thank

01:09:46.520 CBN News

01:09:47.140 for covering

01:09:47.700 my father's news

01:09:48.620 when it was

01:09:49.380 mostly needed.

01:09:51.000 And that's when

01:09:52.520 I believe

01:09:53.420 a lot of Christians

01:09:54.180 in the States

01:09:54.840 especially

01:09:55.280 starting to pick up

01:09:56.740 my father's story.

01:09:57.620 I think this is

01:09:59.040 a great opportunity

01:10:00.020 for Americans

01:10:01.380 themselves

01:10:02.300 to be able

01:10:03.440 to realize

01:10:05.080 what's at stake

01:10:06.060 and what we are to do

01:10:07.860 as brothers and sisters

01:10:09.140 in Christ.

01:10:10.160 As a show of support,

01:10:11.960 the organization

01:10:12.840 Advocates for Faith

01:10:14.140 and Freedom

01:10:14.680 has launched

01:10:15.800 a petition

01:10:16.380 for a fair legal process

01:10:18.220 in Pastor Sun's case.

01:10:20.560 Support from Americans

01:10:21.840 is also growing.

01:10:23.140 That includes

01:10:24.280 the late Charlie Kirk

01:10:25.480 who met Pastor Sun

01:10:26.900 in Seoul

01:10:27.500 at a conference.

01:10:28.880 My father was able

01:10:29.760 to share

01:10:30.600 what's happening

01:10:31.520 in Korea recently

01:10:32.960 especially to the

01:10:34.340 Christian leaders

01:10:35.000 including himself

01:10:35.900 and also

01:10:37.340 the possibility

01:10:39.020 that my father

01:10:39.840 could get arrested.

01:10:42.700 And

01:10:42.780 in fact,

01:10:44.660 my father got arrested

01:10:45.820 two days after

01:10:46.580 he met Charlie.

01:10:47.960 Charlie made sure

01:10:48.800 that

01:10:49.240 he will use

01:10:50.560 his platform

01:10:51.560 and his voice

01:10:52.480 to let the whole world

01:10:54.300 and America know

01:10:55.240 that

01:10:56.040 this is happening

01:10:57.340 in South Korea.

01:10:58.640 And

01:10:58.960 this was important

01:11:01.000 for him

01:11:01.660 because

01:11:02.120 it was an example

01:11:03.960 what would happen

01:11:05.120 if we don't speak

01:11:06.080 for biblical truth.

01:11:08.820 So just so you know,

01:11:09.960 why was he arrested?

01:11:10.820 Well,

01:11:10.920 he was accused

01:11:11.420 of violating

01:11:11.940 the Public Official Election Act

01:11:13.800 and the Local Education

01:11:15.400 Autonomy Act

01:11:16.340 prior

01:11:16.740 to attending

01:11:17.780 a court hearing

01:11:18.460 on Monday

01:11:19.460 on the warrant

01:11:21.360 for his arrest.

01:11:22.000 A conservative pastor

01:11:22.660 participated in a protest

01:11:24.100 that was held

01:11:25.160 by Christian groups

01:11:26.100 in which he said

01:11:27.460 that the state

01:11:28.200 is,

01:11:29.380 quote,

01:11:29.820 the same as Hitler

01:11:31.120 and the Nazis,

01:11:32.520 end quote.

01:11:33.440 And his arrest

01:11:34.340 would be a confirmation

01:11:36.360 of his claim

01:11:37.480 according to this article.

01:11:38.940 He shouted the words

01:11:40.080 that Lee Jae-myung

01:11:41.500 has to die

01:11:42.580 for Korea to live.

01:11:45.540 Fighting Nazis,

01:11:46.440 guys.

01:11:47.740 Everybody,

01:11:48.200 everywhere is fighting Nazis

01:11:49.480 at all times.

01:11:50.060 It's just the only thing

01:11:50.560 that's ever happened

01:11:51.020 in the history of the world

01:11:51.560 is these Nazis

01:11:52.060 and obviously

01:11:54.000 if you don't allow

01:11:54.940 this museum to come in

01:11:57.380 and allow Christians

01:11:59.280 to have a leg here,

01:12:01.380 Christians,

01:12:02.900 well then,

01:12:03.520 obviously,

01:12:04.020 the Holocaust

01:12:04.320 is going to happen again.

01:12:05.260 I think it's pretty sound.

01:12:07.960 This all feels right to me.

01:12:10.980 If I had to,

01:12:12.540 today,

01:12:13.800 give you my best guess

01:12:15.580 as to why

01:12:16.880 Charlie Kirk was assassinated,

01:12:18.400 it's because an offer

01:12:19.260 came to him

01:12:20.080 to become

01:12:21.560 the next moon

01:12:22.780 to turn Turning Point,

01:12:23.940 which is already

01:12:24.420 a $100 million organization,

01:12:26.260 into a multi-billion dollar

01:12:28.060 organization

01:12:29.460 like in real estate

01:12:31.300 and purchasing businesses

01:12:32.920 and doing all sorts of things,

01:12:35.080 working with the military

01:12:36.420 and the top politicians

01:12:39.840 in the world

01:12:40.660 and you just

01:12:42.660 turn the other way.

01:12:43.860 Don't ask questions

01:12:44.700 about where the money's coming from

01:12:46.240 or how you're getting the money.

01:12:47.500 Just keep things afloat

01:12:48.500 and keep poisoning

01:12:50.100 the minds of the youth

01:12:50.840 and keep saying

01:12:52.580 that you're doing all this

01:12:53.380 in the name of the Lord.

01:12:54.780 Because,

01:12:55.140 you know,

01:12:55.500 why not?

01:12:56.120 If Moon could traffic,

01:12:57.900 help the CIA traffic

01:12:59.260 in the name of the Lord,

01:13:03.040 why couldn't Charlie Kirk's

01:13:04.320 organization do that?

01:13:05.200 What the hell

01:13:06.800 was Charlie Kirk

01:13:07.520 doing in Korea?

01:13:09.000 Okay?

01:13:09.520 This is my best guess.

01:13:10.840 I think this is what

01:13:11.840 Charlie Kirk said no to.

01:13:13.680 I think this is what

01:13:14.340 Charlie Kirk turned down.

01:13:16.340 And I would imagine

01:13:17.060 that if you're his lieutenant

01:13:18.880 and you're thinking

01:13:20.740 this is a lot of money,

01:13:23.880 the big payday,

01:13:25.440 you might betray him.

01:13:27.740 You might betray him for that.

01:13:29.520 So,

01:13:30.560 that's all I have for you today.

01:13:32.200 Very long episode,

01:13:32.920 but a very important episode

01:13:34.040 to see how all of this

01:13:35.700 comes together.

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01:15:48.580 I hope it's obvious

01:15:49.740 to you now

01:15:50.460 that they infiltrated

01:15:52.100 the Christian faith.

01:15:54.140 It's very apparent to me.

01:15:55.880 They infiltrated

01:15:56.580 Christian organizations

01:15:57.480 and we've been

01:16:01.260 under the spell

01:16:01.760 of a psychological operation.

01:16:03.500 That is what happened here.

01:16:04.920 These people are not pastors.

01:16:06.440 These people are soldiers.

01:16:08.080 These people are not influencers.

01:16:10.060 These people are soldiers.

01:16:12.640 And the war is on us.

01:16:13.640 The war is for your mind.

01:16:15.400 And you can recognize

01:16:16.320 this very simply, right?

01:16:17.900 You cannot be a Christian

01:16:19.260 and ignore what's happening

01:16:19.980 in Gaza.

01:16:20.460 You can't just pretend

01:16:21.180 that that's okay.

01:16:22.460 You cannot be a Christian

01:16:23.340 and not pursue truth

01:16:24.480 or try to demonize

01:16:25.680 those who pursue it.

01:16:26.640 I think that's self-evident, right?

01:16:28.840 And yeah,

01:16:30.460 I hope that this episode

01:16:31.380 has woken a lot of people up.

01:16:35.180 I hope people have been awakened

01:16:36.280 to how severely all of us

01:16:39.600 have been manipulated,

01:16:40.340 myself included.

01:16:41.640 I will never unsee this

01:16:42.820 and it is a cancer.

01:16:45.040 It really is a cancer.

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01:17:12.560 I'll read our top comment

01:17:13.460 from yesterday's episode.

01:17:14.900 Somebody wrote,

01:17:15.520 this is really funny,

01:17:17.140 Ben Shapiro is the type of guy

01:17:18.640 that wakes you up

01:17:19.920 to tell you

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01:17:21.600 It's absolutely hilarious.

01:17:24.260 Yeah,

01:17:24.740 they're doing more

01:17:25.600 releasing content

01:17:26.640 on my old Instagram channel.

01:17:29.320 It is bonkers.

01:17:30.680 It really is,

01:17:31.560 but they are also

01:17:32.780 just not relevant anymore.

01:17:35.500 Vera Black Designs writes,

01:17:37.460 hey Candace,

01:17:37.980 so Dan Flood's hand signals

01:17:39.240 and the guy in brown

01:17:40.480 in the front row

01:17:41.600 that pulled his sleeves

01:17:42.460 at the exact time

01:17:43.360 that Charlie's life was taken.

01:17:44.440 Do you think there was

01:17:44.960 something there

01:17:45.440 or is it a coincidence?

01:17:46.460 I don't believe

01:17:46.980 it was a coincidence.

01:17:48.140 Much,

01:17:48.640 you're referring to Rick Cutler.

01:17:50.580 Yes,

01:17:50.820 he has a very complicated history.

01:17:53.160 We haven't even gone into him,

01:17:54.200 his history of the DOD,

01:17:55.400 his family's history.

01:17:57.060 Listen,

01:17:57.680 at the end of the day,

01:17:58.860 I feel strongly

01:18:00.620 that an operation

01:18:01.800 to assassinate Charlie Kirk

01:18:03.280 took place in that day

01:18:04.020 and people are implicated.

01:18:05.320 That's the how

01:18:06.540 we're still working on.

01:18:07.880 I think we've discovered

01:18:08.680 the why.

01:18:09.920 It makes,

01:18:11.040 the whole story

01:18:11.940 make sense,

01:18:12.480 what was going on.

01:18:13.320 Charlie,

01:18:13.740 the doge,

01:18:14.780 the offer

01:18:15.400 from BB Night

01:18:15.880 and Yahoo,

01:18:16.560 the weird

01:18:17.560 possession

01:18:19.140 that overtook

01:18:19.900 Christian Zionists

01:18:20.940 to tell you

01:18:21.680 that investigating

01:18:22.280 this would be

01:18:22.640 completely wrong.

01:18:23.980 I feel like Moon Inc.

01:18:25.200 passed his prologue

01:18:26.060 on that one.

01:18:27.620 Jennifer K8033

01:18:30.160 writes,

01:18:30.780 Candace,

01:18:31.180 have you seen

01:18:31.660 or watched

01:18:32.200 the work

01:18:32.720 that John Bray

01:18:33.480 has done

01:18:33.900 regarding his theory

01:18:34.520 on Charlie?

01:18:35.000 It is pretty compelling.

01:18:36.320 I pray for you

01:18:37.020 and your family.

01:18:38.040 Stay safe

01:18:38.820 and thank you

01:18:39.360 for apologizing

01:18:40.120 to the midget horse.

01:18:41.620 I am sorry,

01:18:42.060 to the midget horse again.

01:18:43.560 Out of control.

01:18:44.160 I was out of control.

01:18:45.580 But Ben is still

01:18:46.380 fake and gay.

01:18:48.060 Yes,

01:18:48.560 I have seen

01:18:49.760 John Bray

01:18:50.860 and the work

01:18:52.140 that he's doing.

01:18:52.660 I find it to be

01:18:53.260 very compelling

01:18:54.380 as well

01:18:55.160 and I have been

01:18:56.420 communicating with him

01:18:57.040 behind the scenes.

01:18:58.040 There's so much happening

01:18:59.160 and there are so many

01:19:00.480 rabbit holes

01:19:01.440 to go under

01:19:02.300 and again,

01:19:03.220 that's under

01:19:03.820 the category

01:19:04.360 of the how

01:19:06.060 until I feel

01:19:07.200 totally certain

01:19:07.980 about how it was accomplished.

01:19:09.080 I don't want to

01:19:09.460 produce a theory

01:19:10.020 because I'm under

01:19:10.780 so much scrutiny

01:19:11.480 and if I say one thing

01:19:12.360 and I get one thing wrong,

01:19:13.440 then they suddenly pretend,

01:19:15.400 oh my God,

01:19:16.020 so radical,

01:19:16.400 everything's been debunked.

01:19:18.340 The why I feel certain about.

01:19:20.220 I suggested

01:19:21.100 that it was trafficking

01:19:22.940 when I started looking

01:19:23.980 at the route

01:19:24.360 of the Egyptian planes

01:19:25.240 and how they were tracking

01:19:26.100 Turning Point USA faith

01:19:27.840 and pastors

01:19:28.540 for years

01:19:29.720 and this sort of

01:19:31.560 infiltration

01:19:32.360 and overtaking

01:19:33.160 of Turning Point USA

01:19:33.880 that this faith

01:19:34.860 just came on

01:19:37.200 very suddenly.

01:19:37.880 That's not what we were doing.

01:19:39.020 Charlie and I

01:19:39.380 were going around

01:19:39.880 talking about

01:19:40.260 free markets and capitalism.

01:19:41.080 I blinked

01:19:42.220 and suddenly it was

01:19:43.100 everything was

01:19:44.060 about the Lord

01:19:44.760 and everybody

01:19:45.540 is talking about the Lord

01:19:46.900 but spiritually

01:19:48.480 you're like

01:19:48.860 this doesn't feel

01:19:50.220 like this is about

01:19:51.600 truth or honesty

01:19:52.820 or Jesus Christ

01:19:54.600 at all

01:19:55.000 actually.

01:19:56.300 It actually feels like

01:19:57.020 you're being controlled

01:19:58.140 by people who hate

01:19:59.480 Jesus Christ

01:20:00.100 actually.

01:20:01.520 Just a vibe

01:20:02.300 that I get.

01:20:05.140 This person writes

01:20:06.400 look into

01:20:06.920 Paul E.

01:20:08.620 Valli

01:20:10.140 I did already

01:20:11.760 retired army

01:20:12.660 intel officer

01:20:13.380 he co-wrote

01:20:14.040 the book

01:20:14.540 Mind War

01:20:15.520 with Michael

01:20:16.980 Aquino

01:20:17.660 who was an army

01:20:19.500 intel

01:20:20.040 psychological

01:20:20.820 operations officer

01:20:21.820 and an avowed

01:20:23.300 satanist

01:20:24.020 because Paul

01:20:25.240 Valli

01:20:26.100 is also on the

01:20:27.280 advisory board

01:20:27.940 of Turning Point USA.

01:20:29.280 Well it doesn't matter

01:20:30.240 as long as you got

01:20:31.020 a big enough check

01:20:32.000 as we've learned

01:20:33.000 who cares

01:20:33.960 if he worships

01:20:34.860 Satan

01:20:35.120 okay

01:20:35.900 they're doing

01:20:37.060 the kind of

01:20:37.620 Christianity

01:20:38.000 that can be

01:20:38.600 bought

01:20:38.900 clearly

01:20:39.500 and yes

01:20:40.980 that is true

01:20:41.620 by the way

01:20:42.160 because I have

01:20:42.660 looked into that

01:20:43.400 B. James

01:20:45.380 actually I should

01:20:45.860 add that

01:20:46.320 scholars to make

01:20:46.940 a note

01:20:47.260 to military

01:20:48.340 connections here

01:20:49.300 because I do

01:20:50.480 believe that he

01:20:51.040 has some

01:20:52.180 connection to

01:20:52.680 Fort Huachuca

01:20:53.120 as well

01:20:53.540 as we dive

01:20:54.460 back into that

01:20:55.080 B. James

01:20:56.280 writes

01:20:56.540 hi Candice

01:20:57.000 my girlfriend

01:20:57.360 I listen to

01:20:57.920 you every episode

01:20:58.620 while we are

01:20:59.240 at work

01:20:59.980 and then we

01:21:00.620 talk about it

01:21:01.040 when we get

01:21:01.240 home

01:21:01.480 it would

01:21:01.660 mean the

01:21:01.880 world to

01:21:02.340 her

01:21:02.460 if you

01:21:02.640 could just

01:21:02.940 say a

01:21:03.200 quick hello

01:21:03.660 to Christian

01:21:05.080 hi Christian

01:21:06.400 I hope he

01:21:07.540 didn't misspell

01:21:07.960 your name

01:21:08.200 is it

01:21:08.400 Christina

01:21:08.740 because it

01:21:09.120 could have

01:21:09.320 been Christina

01:21:09.800 and he could

01:21:10.300 have just

01:21:10.560 misfired there

01:21:11.320 whether you

01:21:12.100 are Christian

01:21:12.600 or you

01:21:13.160 are Christina

01:21:13.620 or you

01:21:14.060 are a

01:21:14.380 Christian

01:21:14.780 Christina

01:21:15.300 I would

01:21:16.140 like to

01:21:16.480 say hello

01:21:17.000 to you

01:21:17.340 and thank

01:21:17.580 you guys

01:21:17.840 for watching

01:21:18.200 the episode

01:21:18.540 every day

01:21:18.960 I really

01:21:19.180 appreciate

01:21:19.540 that

01:21:19.900 all of you

01:21:21.400 I appreciate

01:21:21.760 you all

01:21:22.040 so much

01:21:22.360 I loved

01:21:22.740 yesterday

01:21:23.240 seeing

01:21:23.820 Maggie's

01:21:25.060 Instagram

01:21:25.500 blow up

01:21:26.360 that was

01:21:26.680 awesome

01:21:27.080 she deserved

01:21:27.760 that

01:21:28.100 I love

01:21:28.460 that for

01:21:28.780 her

01:21:29.020 making the

01:21:29.860 difficult

01:21:30.180 decision

01:21:30.540 at the

01:21:30.820 time

01:21:31.120 but making

01:21:31.500 the right

01:21:31.780 decision

01:21:32.120 you should

01:21:32.440 always be

01:21:32.820 rewarded

01:21:33.100 for that

01:21:33.580 free hour

01:21:34.820 speech

01:21:35.160 writes

01:21:35.620 turning

01:21:36.400 point

01:21:36.620 USA

01:21:36.880 nothing

01:21:37.620 to see

01:21:38.100 here

01:21:38.540 yeah

01:21:40.040 never

01:21:40.620 anything

01:21:40.880 to see

01:21:41.300 but

01:21:41.700 pyrotechnics

01:21:42.460 living for

01:21:43.620 his glory

01:21:44.080 daily

01:21:44.420 writes

01:21:44.840 this is

01:21:45.540 why

01:21:45.780 you have

01:21:46.160 to look

01:21:46.540 at

01:21:46.740 Ferris

01:21:47.160 and

01:21:47.400 Dan

01:21:47.620 Wilkes

01:21:47.980 explains

01:21:48.380 another

01:21:48.640 reason

01:21:48.900 for Ben

01:21:49.240 Shapiro's

01:21:49.620 push

01:21:49.840 against

01:21:50.100 you

01:21:50.360 and the

01:21:51.040 push

01:21:51.240 to get

01:21:51.520 into

01:21:51.720 turning

01:21:51.940 point

01:21:52.240 I'm

01:21:52.660 just

01:21:52.880 a

01:21:53.140 mom

01:21:53.480 who

01:21:54.280 is

01:21:54.360 not

01:21:54.500 blind

01:21:54.800 to

01:21:55.280 the

01:21:55.380 lies

01:21:55.620 anymore

01:21:55.940 sending

01:21:56.220 my

01:21:56.420 research

01:21:56.740 tonight

01:21:57.040 that's

01:21:57.960 funny

01:21:58.100 you say

01:21:58.400 that

01:22:02.120 so

01:22:02.280 clear

01:22:02.840 I promise

01:22:03.600 you can

01:22:03.900 actually

01:22:04.160 fact check

01:22:04.640 this

01:22:04.920 with

01:22:05.240 Village

01:22:06.240 Crazy

01:22:06.500 Lady

01:22:06.680 my girl

01:22:07.000 Mel

01:22:07.320 over on

01:22:08.160 X

01:22:08.420 because

01:22:08.800 I woke

01:22:09.540 my husband

01:22:10.160 up

01:22:10.420 it was

01:22:10.620 after

01:22:10.880 Ben

01:22:11.200 first

01:22:11.440 attacked

01:22:11.700 me

01:22:11.800 I was

01:22:11.980 like

01:22:12.060 that's

01:22:12.280 weird

01:22:12.500 I don't

01:22:12.620 know

01:22:12.700 what

01:22:12.800 his

01:22:12.920 investment

01:22:13.300 is

01:22:13.440 in

01:22:13.520 this

01:22:13.660 I had

01:22:14.440 another

01:22:14.660 vivid

01:22:14.940 dream

01:22:15.260 the dream

01:22:15.640 was so

01:22:15.960 vivid

01:22:16.220 it was

01:22:16.840 like

01:22:17.120 if you've

01:22:17.380 ever

01:22:17.480 seen

01:22:17.620 Harry

01:22:17.800 Potter

01:22:18.080 and

01:22:19.120 like

01:22:19.840 when

01:22:20.020 they

01:22:20.120 have

01:22:20.280 like

01:22:20.400 the

01:22:20.540 chess

01:22:20.800 board

01:22:21.140 scene

01:22:21.680 and

01:22:22.800 they're

01:22:22.940 having

01:22:23.180 a wizard

01:22:23.920 war

01:22:24.180 but

01:22:24.320 playing

01:22:25.120 a game

01:22:25.420 of chess

01:22:25.840 it was

01:22:27.040 basically

01:22:27.440 a game

01:22:27.920 of chess

01:22:28.540 and

01:22:29.340 Ben

01:22:30.680 was one

01:22:31.020 of the

01:22:31.280 pieces

01:22:31.660 and

01:22:32.860 what I

01:22:34.040 saw

01:22:34.420 in this

01:22:34.780 dream

01:22:35.000 or how

01:22:35.180 I felt

01:22:35.520 there's

01:22:35.860 no words

01:22:36.240 in this

01:22:36.660 is that

01:22:37.520 he was

01:22:37.860 being sent

01:22:38.420 out

01:22:38.880 and I

01:22:39.200 woke up

01:22:39.480 at 4am

01:22:40.820 in the

01:22:40.940 morning

01:22:41.120 and I

01:22:41.380 said

01:22:41.560 I just

01:22:42.180 had a

01:22:42.340 dream

01:22:42.500 that we

01:22:42.720 have to

01:22:42.920 look

01:22:43.060 into

01:22:43.240 the

01:22:43.400 Wilkes

01:22:43.600 brothers

01:22:43.880 so

01:22:44.520 weird

01:22:44.780 that Ben

01:22:45.220 the reason

01:22:45.740 he's

01:22:46.140 being sent

01:22:47.260 out

01:22:47.440 is because

01:22:47.680 the

01:22:47.820 Wilkes

01:22:47.960 brothers

01:22:48.180 are

01:22:48.320 freaking

01:22:48.480 out

01:22:48.640 about

01:22:48.800 something

01:22:49.140 swear

01:22:49.960 to

01:22:50.200 you

01:22:50.420 Mel

01:22:51.520 Village

01:22:51.920 Crazy

01:22:52.140 Lady

01:22:52.260 can

01:22:52.440 show

01:22:52.680 you

01:22:52.800 the

01:22:52.900 text

01:22:53.120 I

01:22:53.260 then

01:22:53.400 woke

01:22:53.600 up

01:22:53.780 and I

01:22:54.000 got

01:22:56.720 started

01:22:57.100 and Mel

01:22:57.680 messaged

01:22:58.100 me

01:22:58.380 and she

01:22:59.020 said

01:22:59.260 something

01:22:59.580 about

01:22:59.780 the

01:22:59.900 seven

01:23:00.040 mountain

01:23:00.280 mandate

01:23:01.100 and then

01:23:01.520 she

01:23:01.620 mentioned

01:23:01.900 the

01:23:02.000 Wilkes

01:23:02.140 brothers

01:23:02.360 and I

01:23:02.580 was

01:23:02.680 like

01:23:02.800 that

01:23:02.980 is

01:23:03.120 so

01:23:03.540 crazy

01:23:04.300 that

01:23:04.480 you

01:23:04.580 are

01:23:04.680 messaging

01:23:04.960 me

01:23:05.140 this

01:23:05.300 because

01:23:05.480 I

01:23:05.620 had

01:23:05.740 a

01:23:05.860 dream

01:23:06.060 at

01:23:06.180 4am

01:23:06.640 they

01:23:07.120 were

01:23:07.220 not

01:23:07.400 on

01:23:07.500 my

01:23:07.600 mind

01:23:07.860 at

01:23:08.060 all

01:23:08.360 I

01:23:08.720 don't

01:23:08.800 actually

01:23:09.020 know

01:23:09.320 anything

01:23:09.500 about

01:23:09.720 them

01:23:09.940 it's

01:23:10.060 not

01:23:10.140 a part

01:23:11.180 of

01:23:11.300 the

01:23:11.380 daily

01:23:11.540 wire

01:23:11.720 operations

01:23:12.200 or

01:23:12.340 anything

01:23:12.600 but

01:23:13.900 they

01:23:14.260 do

01:23:14.420 fund

01:23:14.720 PragerU

01:23:15.320 they

01:23:15.940 do

01:23:16.140 fund

01:23:16.500 PragerU

01:23:18.000 and they

01:23:20.940 do

01:23:21.080 fund

01:23:21.340 the

01:23:21.460 daily

01:23:21.620 wire

01:23:21.980 and

01:23:22.600 they

01:23:23.080 are

01:23:23.740 not

01:23:24.380 evangelical

01:23:26.220 Christians

01:23:26.720 they fund

01:23:27.220 the

01:23:27.360 megachurches

01:23:28.080 they

01:23:28.220 started

01:23:28.580 Rob

01:23:28.880 McCoy's

01:23:29.300 church

01:23:29.560 actually

01:23:29.960 they

01:23:30.120 funded

01:23:30.360 it

01:23:30.640 that

01:23:31.280 was

01:23:31.400 interesting

01:23:31.840 which

01:23:32.420 is

01:23:32.520 what

01:23:32.640 she

01:23:32.760 was

01:23:32.900 telling

01:23:33.140 me

01:23:33.280 I

01:23:33.380 looked

01:23:33.500 into

01:23:33.680 it

01:23:33.800 and

01:23:33.900 all

01:23:34.000 that

01:23:34.160 's

01:23:34.260 true

01:23:34.480 anyways

01:23:35.100 I

01:23:35.240 know

01:23:35.320 I'm

01:23:35.420 about

01:23:35.580 to talk

01:23:35.760 about

01:23:35.860 my

01:23:35.960 dreams

01:23:36.240 especially

01:23:40.660 when

01:23:40.860 they're

01:23:41.000 that

01:23:41.260 vivid

01:23:41.520 and

01:23:41.740 I

01:23:41.820 have

01:23:41.920 never

01:23:42.340 dreamed

01:23:42.820 more

01:23:43.040 vividly

01:23:43.520 and

01:23:44.660 more

01:23:44.820 precisely

01:23:45.280 than

01:23:45.700 since

01:23:47.040 Charlie

01:23:47.280 Kirk

01:23:47.420 has

01:23:47.540 been

01:23:47.640 assassinated

01:23:48.080 it's

01:23:48.600 unbelievable

01:23:49.040 it was

01:23:50.180 disturbing

01:23:50.740 me

01:23:51.040 in the

01:23:51.480 weeks

01:23:51.640 after

01:23:51.880 his

01:23:52.040 death

01:23:52.180 how

01:23:52.320 vivid

01:23:52.560 the

01:23:52.740 dreams

01:23:52.960 were

01:23:53.140 how

01:23:53.320 I

01:23:53.380 imagine

01:23:56.780 this

01:23:56.940 is

01:23:57.060 exactly

01:23:57.360 what

01:23:57.520 Charlie

01:23:57.700 was

01:23:57.820 going

01:23:58.000 through

01:23:58.180 in

01:23:58.280 2018

01:23:58.680 when

01:23:59.220 he

01:23:59.340 was

01:23:59.560 having

01:23:59.800 visions

01:24:00.100 that

01:24:00.220 he

01:24:00.300 was

01:24:00.380 going

01:24:00.500 to

01:24:00.540 die

01:24:00.760 that's

01:24:01.620 kind

01:24:01.800 of

01:24:01.880 what's

01:24:02.040 happening

01:24:02.220 to

01:24:02.400 me

01:24:02.520 now

01:24:02.820 about

01:24:03.240 different

01:24:04.140 things

01:24:04.420 that

01:24:04.520 have

01:24:04.620 happened

01:24:05.000 in

01:24:07.180 this

01:24:07.580 investigation

01:24:07.980 or

01:24:08.400 you know

01:24:08.800 things

01:24:09.040 that

01:24:09.160 were

01:24:09.240 happening

01:24:09.500 with

01:24:09.660 Charlie

01:24:09.900 anyways

01:24:10.380 for

01:24:10.540 whatever

01:24:10.720 that's

01:24:10.980 worth

01:24:11.260 and

01:24:12.840 just

01:24:13.100 reminding

01:24:13.360 you

01:24:13.500 guys

01:24:13.780 as

01:24:14.020 before

01:24:14.300 we

01:24:14.440 sign

01:24:14.580 off

01:24:14.720 that

01:24:14.820 we

01:24:14.900 have

01:24:15.060 a

01:24:15.220 two

01:24:15.460 hour

01:24:15.720 book

01:24:15.960 club

01:24:16.140 tomorrow

01:24:16.480 we

01:24:16.720 will

01:24:16.800 not

01:24:16.900 have

01:24:17.020 an

01:24:17.120 episode

01:24:17.400 but

01:24:17.580 we

01:24:17.660 will

01:24:17.760 have

01:24:17.880 a

01:24:17.960 two

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Candace Owens - January 09, 2026

The Past Is Prologue： Why Charlie Kirk Was Murdered ｜ Candace Ep 287

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