On today's show, I speak with Ian Carroll about the Diddy case. We discuss the D.C. terror attack, the Trump Hotel shooting, and the possible involvement of Jonathan Odie in the case of Diddy's ex-wife Cassie.
00:05:39.920So everything he's saying about the relationship between Diddy and Cassie ended up being verified and true and sounded insane at that time.
00:05:48.600He also says that Diddy's a member of the Black Illuminati and that he would hear him on the phone discussing matters.
00:05:55.560And the biggest thing is saying that there's a hip-hop agenda.
00:05:58.400And essentially, they create these guys and enrich them because really what they're doing,
00:06:03.740and further parts of this video, on behalf of the feds, is that they're moving drugs throughout the United States.
00:06:55.700Yeah, we have a lot of history of both the feds and, you know, say, organized crime that works in the music industry, trafficking drugs.
00:07:02.580And I've never really quite understood why Diddy's fame has lasted this long, why he is so wealthy, how he's doing all of these extravagant things.
00:07:10.100Like, genuinely, I've never really quite understood it.
00:07:12.040And it's just interesting because when two things that seem—actually, three things that seem so crazy end up fact-checking true.
00:07:18.700He also mentioned in this—we didn't show this clip, but he mentions pink cocaine.
00:07:23.000At that time, no one knew what he was talking about.
00:07:24.840Suddenly, Little Rod's lawsuit is speaking about that exact same drug that he's saying is a combination of all sorts of drugs, like MDMA and cocaine.
00:07:33.200And again, all of this is allegedly, but he says that essentially that's what Diddy is giving out at these parties that has people that is so high, rather.
00:07:42.220And then another piece of this, which we didn't show, which he said at that time in terms of saving Trump, was he says that he saw in the Illuminati card deck that they were going to try to assassinate Trump.
00:07:55.100Again, what year was this that Jonathan Odey was arrested?
00:08:29.660Well, the thing that's really fun about that interview is that it's pretty clear from his when you listen to the whole thing a couple of times because of his crazy accent.
00:08:37.500But it's clear that he details very specific things about his encounters with Diddy and Cassie that he's clearly remembering actual events, especially now that we have confirmation that he's not entirely crazy.
00:08:48.720But then there's also an element where he says a few times that he also did research online to sort of put things together because some things he's talking about how I overheard it on the phone.
00:09:00.020And other things, it's sort of more like I figured this out or I piece this together.
00:09:04.160And so there's an element that's really fun in my mind of tinfoil where it's like, I presume that part of what he says in that interview is actual experiences that he had.
00:09:13.900And part of it is him sort of piecing things together from online like 4chan style research.
00:09:18.540And you don't necessarily know which is which, but we're starting to get a pick like we're starting to get confirmations of some of them.
00:09:24.300And other ones seem more plausible and other ones are more like, I don't know.
00:09:28.060He also casually says in his interview that Tupac is still alive and he's in Cuba.
00:09:39.660But because I'm going back and I'm thinking it's just strange that everything this man said or too much of what he said has fact checked true, which seems so bizarre.
00:09:48.060That another very bizarre claim he made that Tupac's alive is in Cuba and he's just like chilling and saying that just kind of gets you thinking about all sorts of other things.
00:10:24.900And so in modern times, there's lots of different takes on it.
00:10:29.780But the theory is that you sell out your own.
00:10:31.900And so the Black Boulay, my understanding, is that they are sort of the Black people that sell out the other Black people on behalf of, you know, the Illuminati or the guys controlling the world.
00:10:41.580And LeBron James does have a gigantic back tattoo of the crest, like the symbol itself of the Black Boulay.
00:10:55.940And so that's interesting that he's saying he's a member of this, especially as we're now learning so much about what took place at these diddy parties.
00:11:03.380We can't really discuss Cassie's testimony because I try to keep this show family friendly.
00:11:08.720And I just there's not a single piece of that that is that I can't read anything about these transcripts.
00:11:13.280Suffice it to say, they were into just the most debased, disgusting sexual stuff that you could possibly imagine.
00:11:20.660She was very clear that she was high on drugs throughout a lot of it.
00:11:24.180I completely believe that based on what we've learned from Little Rod and learned from other people, including this guy, Jonathan Odie, that that was definitively one component of this.
00:11:32.820But it's interesting that we're talking about the idea of these people selling out the Black community on behalf of somebody else, because there are some dogs that are not barking.
00:11:41.960That had me very concerned in this case, because I read through Little Rod's lawsuit and I very much expected that the universal execs would be brought into this investigation.
00:11:50.660Into the hearing, at the very least, to testify.
00:11:53.540And also the biggest person missing here is Christina Karam.
00:11:57.920OK, Skylar, can you pull up a picture of this Christina Karam?
00:12:43.660Like she's just for some reason, they thought we have to take down Diddy.
00:12:47.420But it was very clear in Little Rod's lawsuit that Diddy was kept high intentionally because of her, because she was instructing people to keep him drugged, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly on this pink cocaine.
00:13:10.680I mean, these lawsuits were in a lot of ways my introduction to all these people.
00:13:14.760Like, I didn't know who Lucian Grange was before I read those lawsuits.
00:13:17.540I wasn't paying attention to pop culture.
00:13:18.960But the moment you read those lawsuits, it's immediately apparent and just logically apparent that if Diddy's thrown all these parties, Universal Music Group is in some way financially involved.
00:13:28.680But the lawsuit alleges that they're directly financially involved in the lawsuit alleges that Lucian Grange frequently attended them and probably funded some of them and certainly had secret meetings or at least allegedly had secret meetings with Diddy frequently.
00:13:42.160Yeah, in his bedroom for an hour or more.
00:13:44.560And so all of that, like even suppose, you know, Lucian Grange and Universal Music Group, they get taken off of Little Rod's lawsuit, which was very strange.
00:13:59.760Lucian Grange has been a very powerful figure for a very long time.
00:14:02.220Started with a totally different name, by the way.
00:14:05.000I don't trust men that change their names least of all three times.
00:14:09.080A family that goes from Goldstein to G to Grange doesn't make sense to me.
00:14:13.980And you have him at the top of the food chain, heavily implied by Little Rod, that they were allowing this to go on to get blackmail on certain people.
00:15:07.660Because most people are just looking at the names, looking at the insanity of the stories, of the things.
00:15:14.140And I can say this, like a lot of urination was involved in what they were into.
00:15:19.000And it's so crazy on its face to think that these A-listers are involved in all of this stuff, that people are not going to go back and look at the genesis of this lawsuit.
00:15:27.200They're not going to read through what Little Rod put.
00:15:35.100You know, she's saying this person, this person, this person.
00:15:37.660You guys have to go back to the beginning and read, because then you will realize, if you read Little Rod's lawsuit, you should read it front to back.
00:15:44.420OK, because everything thus far that he has claimed as an allegation is checking out to be true.
00:15:50.860So in the courtroom, and people laughed at his lawsuit when it first came out.
00:15:54.780And I was like, I said, if here's Morgan, he's getting arrested.
00:17:03.260And he graduated with a business and marketing degree with a specialty in real estate, which does not sound like head of security material to me.
00:17:10.580And then another researcher found out that he owns a whole bunch of land through his real estate company right on the border of Mexico.
00:17:16.600And there's actually local local news television footage of him.
00:17:20.720Like he gave a gift to his son of 40 acres of this land when his son turned 13.
00:17:26.840And there's local news station footage of him taking the newscaster around the land.
00:17:31.380And like they're like talking how they go out there all the time and have a good time.
00:17:34.560And the border wall is right there in the TV shot.
00:17:37.240And it's it's unreal just to think like how like, excuse me, this is during Biden's presidency.
00:17:42.220This is when people are jumping over that border like crazy when there's all kinds of stuff going on on that border.
00:17:45.840That's not the kind of land that you want to own as a real estate development company.
00:17:50.440And then just to connect the dot as well as when he's mentioned in a Little Rod lawsuit as the fixer to show you how extreme what he's being accused of is, is essentially he's the guy you call if you shoot somebody.
00:17:59.740Yeah, he intimates this scene in the lawsuit, Little Rod, where Diddy allegedly and his son allegedly shoot some guy in a bathroom.
00:18:09.220Little Rod is is as this guy is bleeding out, cleaning up, trying to help this guy.
00:18:13.460He's very close or just outside of the bathroom.
00:18:15.920Little Rod might have been in the bathroom.
00:18:17.940And he knows that after Diddy and his son come up and shoot this guy, he's trying to apply pressure to the wound.
00:18:23.980And they know that you have to call this guy and he'll get the correct person over at LAPD to come over and they'll tell a lie.
00:18:32.360And he says that the next day the press ran a story that there was a drive by shooting.
00:18:35.780He's like, that's not what happened at all.
00:18:37.100And it made me really think about the book Chaos that so many people on my podcast have listened to and watched.
00:18:41.980I mean, I have listened to and it's describing a corrupt LAPD with feds that are involved and know how to disappear certain things.
00:18:49.280And we know that to be factually true based on the Charles Manson murders.
00:18:54.860Why is this man not being brought to heel?
00:18:57.120Why do we not have this individual taking the stand and answering questions about any of that?
00:19:02.260I mean, there's so much wrong with this picture.
00:19:03.840I mean, if you're even so let's run with the idea of what the mainstream media is picturing Diddy's operation as is just a bunch of depraved sex.
00:19:11.320The head of security of that operation is the first dude you should be talking to because the head of security for Diddy's depraved sex ring is going to know about everything that happened.
00:19:21.160He's going to know where the people were, how they came in, where they left through all of it.
00:19:25.260And so the fact that no one's mentioned Fahim Muhammad yet, and maybe they will, maybe they'll bring him in, but I haven't heard his name yet at all in relation to this trial.
00:19:31.980And so you couldn't paint a better picture for a show trial that is designed to be salacious and crazy and wild and scandalous in all the wrong directions.
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00:22:24.940Women are attracted to that and thinking he can take care of her.
00:22:28.680And he kind of gets her in this scenario.
00:22:30.340But it is hard to know, as Jonathan Odie says and other people have said, is that she was involved in some of the abuses that were happening to other people.
00:22:41.300So she it's it's just interesting to kind of consider Cassie in this where what she has done is definitively heroic and exposing everything and in taking the stand.
00:22:49.240But do you wipe her clean of everything that she's done and think like, you know what?
00:22:52.660She was really in a really bad situation.
00:22:54.920And she stayed in that relationship for 10 years, by the way.
00:22:57.080So it wasn't like it was a short relationship.
00:23:01.860I think that I do absolve her of guilt, specifically because of what's written in her lawsuit in the sense that when you're 19 and in her lawsuit, my memory of it is that she actually took a while to be taken in by him.
00:23:19.880She wasn't immediately like, oh, my gosh, Diddy, I'm going to like walk.
00:23:22.480But rather, he can't he like plied her over the course of a year and eventually it was with drugs that he eventually got through to her and he kind of like drugged her one night and then like took her out and then sort of like weaseled his way into her life is the way it was portrayed.
00:23:34.380And that is in her words, obviously trying to paint herself in the best light, probably.
00:23:38.440But when you're 19 and drugs that are very quickly, very addictive are involved and very serious physical abuse is involved from that early age and and the types of abuses we're talking about when you try to leave, when you try to wrong him at all, that the ways that people describe Diddy's abuse from that age onwards, that does something to your brain that I do not blame her for her complete.
00:24:03.940Because like, let's be real, Diddy's a bigger dude that could beat her senseless that we've seen her senseless.
00:24:09.920Absolutely. And so if she's complicit in any of those crimes while she's with him, that is Diddy's crime.
00:24:15.200Right. And we we have more than enough evidence to see that's Diddy's fault and Diddy's crime.
00:24:19.740And then when you top it all off with her having the gumption to bring that case and to stand up and speak and to file that lawsuit, which started all these lawsuits, she's the one that opened the floodgates here.
00:24:30.640Yeah. That's incredibly brave. And that's something that all the women that came before her, all the men that came before her, all the sex slaves that came before did not do. Right.
00:24:38.900And so I'm, I'm inclined to think of Cassie as a bit of a hero in this situation.
00:24:46.360I think she settled and then she released the tape, somehow got the tape out, which I think was really brave.
00:24:49.660I tend to agree with you. I think the only part that I struggle with is that, and this is philosophical again, so I'm not casting any judgment, but when the victim then victimizes, think about that person who she victimized.
00:25:01.240And they're like, no, I distinctly remember Cassie threatening me because this has come out and they've shared text messages throughout this lawsuit of her threatening people and saying, I'm going to have this done to you or whatever.
00:25:10.400Obviously with herself feeling threatened as she described, because she felt like, well, a person could release a tape of her at this freak off.
00:25:17.120And I'm like, okay, but what about that person? If they, if they experience, their experience is actually, you know, Cassie victimized me.
00:25:23.040It gets so convoluted, but I think you do have to kind of go back to the beginning and go, yeah, you know, she was 19.
00:25:29.060She was plied with drugs. She was plied with alcohol. And yeah, she was groomed in my, in my, in my viewpoint.
00:25:34.340Like she, obviously nothing that was done was illegal. She was of 19, 19 years old.
00:25:38.420But our understanding is that women, your brain is not developed.
00:25:54.080And somewhat consensual, that's what I mean.
00:25:55.540But she was still 19 and her brain wasn't developed.
00:25:57.940So it's been tricky and you see people that are making a lot of comments, but the reality is we would not even be where we are today if it had not been for Cassie's first step in dropping that lawsuit for the public to see.
00:26:07.700And then maybe that gave a little rod the courage, then drop his lawsuit and kind of the floodgates opened from there.
00:26:13.380I'm also just, I'm prone to empathizing with people of all varieties from all walks of life, because I think that's really important.
00:26:18.800That comes from being raised by teachers and thinking as a teacher often is you have to understand where people are coming from.
00:26:23.900And when it comes to Diddy, it's like, like you can do that a little bit, but it's much easier to understand where Cassie's coming from.
00:26:30.500And certainly she has committed crimes and certainly she has, is not, her hands are not clean.
00:26:34.720But you have to take each person for what their life is worth and what their crimes are and what their story is.
00:26:40.120And in general, I think that Cassie's, uh, Cassie's hurt and then help at the end of this situation.
00:26:46.920I think that in my mind, that outweighs what she, what she did wrong.
00:28:01.920We don't have footage yet of that shooting, but we do know that a person then entered into it was a museum, correct?
00:28:08.460I think it was a museum where this event was being hosted.
00:28:11.220And the event was something of a quote from the organizer of the event said something like, this was an event to build bridges towards peace in the Middle East, towards building bridges between the different nations in the Middle East.
00:28:23.160So it was definitely a progressive style of an event.
00:28:26.620It was not a BB style event, for sure.
00:28:29.040And they this individual then screams free Palestine.
00:28:33.360And of course, now the Internet is accusing everybody who has ever said the right thing about what is happening in Gaza of having blood on our hands because we have been humane towards that.
00:28:43.420And conflating it with anti-Semitism, too, which is like maybe maybe he was anti-Semitic.
00:28:49.480Maybe he killed them just because they were Jewish.
00:28:51.280But all the evidence that I'm seeing is that it was political and and conflating the fact that they were Jewish with the fact that he was saying free Palestine and you're Israeli having to do with the Israeli government.
00:29:49.880But I do want to say that I think it was actually Jordan Peterson who said correctly that once you get to a state where you start going after the comedians, right, then you know that you are existing under the things are about to get there.
00:54:52.100No worries. We'll try that again in a second.
00:55:00.080Natalie writes, really enjoyed watching you to walk the dog on your logic regarding Cassie and whether you view her in a more positive light or not.
00:55:07.580Fun to see the back and forth and opinions and then both agree.
00:55:10.100Yeah. You know, I just didn't know how I felt about it.
00:55:12.060And sometimes you kind of have to speak to somebody else, kind of get through it.
00:55:14.960And I was just thinking about the other victims and how they would feel about her kind of being portrayed as a hero, even though she did some bad stuff.
00:55:21.420And but I then was like, she's so young and she was on drugs.
00:55:23.540And yeah, think and have conversations while you still can.
00:55:26.880I think it's so annoying when people pretend to know everything and they're it's this is the bad guy.
00:55:31.080This is the good guy. Things tend to be a little bit more complex than that.
00:55:34.780So I think that's one of the coolest things about this industry, too, is that you're around like people that watch this kind of stuff, people that do this kind of work.
00:55:42.320Like there are people that are thinking carefully about what's going on.
00:55:44.880And so it's so fun to have conversations about things you haven't really decided yet, because often you're going to get a really intelligent response from someone like you who's done all this research, but has a different opinion than me.
00:55:54.920That's why I think that's why podcasts are cool is because you get to learn from a lot of different people.
00:55:59.120Without being so authoritative, like this is the perspective that you must agree with back at home, because we know everything and we are the experts that need to be trusted.
00:56:06.020OK, he now says he has the Tim Dillon clip ready. I don't know if I can trust you, Skylar, but go ahead and play it.
00:56:10.320The press just put out an article how Qatar bought America. If that were true, there would be signs. That's completely untrue. I have not been bought. Does this look like a man who's been bought by Qatar?
00:56:25.320No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I still don't get to see my children.
00:57:46.980And look, now they're trying because they've lost the thread here in America in terms of Israel support.
00:57:51.840And I think that we have that Glenn Greenwald tweet, which he retweeted somebody speaking about that drop in Israeli support for Israel in America.
00:57:59.340That's why they are now pushing speech laws.
00:58:01.300They're trying to manufacture support, which is insane.
00:58:04.500And of course, that's going to backfire.
00:58:06.500Glenn Greenwald tweeted, the collapse in support for Israel among Americans is substantial and steep.
00:58:11.44050 percent of Republicans under 50 have an unfavorable view of Israel and 53 percent of Americans overall.
00:58:18.860The only pro-Israel group left is older Republicans.
00:58:21.640It's happening globally and it won't be repaired.
00:58:23.720And what are they doing trying to repair it?
00:58:25.440Trying to, what, mine these two diplomats being shot and demanding more censorship on YouTube?
00:58:34.060They're blaming Hassan Piker, I think.