Candace Owens - Theo Von Speaks Out ｜ Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial ｜ Candace Ep 188

00:00:00.600 Truck Month is on at Chevrolet.

00:00:03.080 Get 0% financing for up to 72 months on a 2025 Silverado 1500 Custom Blackout or Custom

00:00:09.080 Trail Boss.

00:00:09.940 With Custom Trail Bosses available, class-exclusive Duramax 3-liter diesel engine and Z71 off-road

00:00:15.940 package with a 2-inch factory suspension lift, you get both on-road confidence and off-road

00:00:20.860 capability.

00:00:22.400 Dirt road ahead?

00:00:23.400 Let's go!

00:00:25.480 Truck Month is awesome!

00:00:27.580 Ask your Chevrolet dealer for details.

00:00:30.000 All right, you guys, happy Thursday.

00:00:31.500 I told you I'd be popping in today because I needed to speak with Ian Carroll about the

00:00:35.160 Diddy case.

00:00:35.960 He was kind of the first one that forced me down the rabbit hole, one of his videos, so

00:00:39.180 I'm glad to have him back.

00:00:40.220 We're going to discuss the dogs that are not barking in that case.

00:00:43.120 Feels to me a little bit like a distraction, and we're not really getting to the nucleus

00:00:46.620 of what could very well be another blackmail ring.

00:00:50.080 Also, in case you missed it, there's no way you could have, because it's wall-to-wall

00:00:53.160 coverage, a terror attack in D.C., and people already using it to try to insist upon speech

00:00:59.140 laws in the United States.

00:01:00.900 What's going on?

00:01:01.920 Why are people coming up with so many conspiracies?

00:01:04.320 Let's try to separate fact from fiction as more information pours in.

00:01:08.180 Again, I'll be joined by Ian Carroll, so let's jump right in.

00:01:11.320 Welcome back to Candace.

00:01:12.120 Ian Carroll, you've done such a good job covering for me, by the way.

00:01:29.960 Thank you.

00:01:30.480 My audience loves you.

00:01:31.320 Thank you.

00:01:31.580 It's been so much fun.

00:01:32.540 Your team is awesome.

00:01:33.580 In a little bit, we're going to have to cover that red bracelet you wore.

00:01:36.060 I know.

00:01:36.300 I mean, I almost exposed your whole operation here.

00:01:38.300 The whole operation.

00:01:38.840 Fortunately, the internet will forget all about it now.

00:01:41.660 There's this new terror attack going on.

00:01:42.780 We have to.

00:01:43.620 I was calling.

00:01:44.060 I was like, what did you wear on the show today?

00:01:45.840 I'm getting tweeted.

00:01:46.920 What is happening?

00:01:47.920 We're going to dive into that.

00:01:48.840 But I first want to, should we start with the D.C. terror attack?

00:01:51.520 Do you want to talk about the Diddy case?

00:01:53.340 Let's talk about the Diddy case first, because the terror attack is fresh, and there's a lot

00:01:56.960 that I want to get to and a lot of clips that I want to show.

00:01:59.340 Diddy case, honestly, when you did your video speaking about Jonathan Odie, I was very plugged

00:02:05.080 into that because I had read through Little Rod's case.

00:02:08.960 Everything Little Rod has said so far has checked out.

00:02:12.240 Little Rod, in case you guys are not aware or haven't been following this case, he was

00:02:16.240 the producer who initially filed the lawsuit against Diddy.

00:02:19.960 This came after Cassie's lawsuit, which virtually went away overnight because she settled.

00:02:24.120 And he detailed very much what looked to be a blackmail operation.

00:02:29.960 He named a lot of names, talked about pink cocaine, drugs.

00:02:34.320 And Ian then does this video where he goes backwards and speaks about a man named Jonathan

00:02:39.140 Odie.

00:02:39.660 Can you update my audience on who Jonathan Odie is?

00:02:42.180 Most people remember the video.

00:02:44.120 It was in 2018.

00:02:45.440 He was the Trump Doral hotel shooter.

00:02:48.000 And he's like a bald guy.

00:02:49.120 And everyone's seen clips of him or photos of him in his like weird hospital gown with

00:02:53.460 one arm out and one arm.

00:02:54.740 And he he like went into the Trump Hotel in Doral and shot a gun in the air a bunch of

00:03:01.080 times, not at anyone.

00:03:02.180 And and then like took over the lobby of the hotel and draped a giant American flag over

00:03:05.860 it.

00:03:05.980 Very like bizarre behavior.

00:03:07.440 And then got into a shootout with police, got shot, ran away, surrendered this whole thing.

00:03:12.440 And it turned out that once he got, you know, apprehended and taken in, there's this video

00:03:17.860 that went on the Internet that was from his like medical examination or something.

00:03:21.780 But it's like a 30 minute video that a lot of people saw at the time, but everyone kind 0.51

00:03:25.820 of forgot about because he was clearly insane, clearly insane. 0.87

00:03:28.660 He was making bizarre claims like he was Diddy's sex slave and that Diddy had forced him to 0.99

00:03:33.600 have sex with his girlfriend, Cassie, and that he had contracted an STD from them and then 0.98

00:03:38.560 had sued. 0.98

00:03:39.000 And then he also talks about like the black boule and the Illuminati, the Illuminati playing

00:03:45.000 cards.

00:03:45.440 And he's like trying to warn Trump, apparently the whole thing.

00:03:47.860 The whole ordeal was him trying to get Trump's attention so that he could save Trump from

00:03:53.480 the Illuminati.

00:03:54.580 Which is incredible.

00:03:55.560 We do have some clips from that video that this man who looked like he escaped from an

00:03:59.800 insane asylum was saying, among very many other things, that he was here to rescue Trump.

00:04:05.280 They were going to try to assassinate Trump. 0.99

00:04:07.000 He saw it in the Illuminati card deck is what he said, that he was a sex slave and he's trying 0.99

00:04:12.660 to expose this whole drug operation.

00:04:14.500 At that time, nobody knew anything about Diddy and Cassie and all of this stuff that's coming

00:04:19.740 out right now.

00:04:21.480 Skylar, what clip should we play first?

00:04:23.820 I think just play any one of these clips that you have.

00:04:26.960 They're all good.

00:04:27.540 Because they're all good.

00:04:28.280 From Jonathan Odie.

00:04:30.920 Yeah, sure.

00:04:31.660 Let's play a montage.

00:04:32.320 Do you know Sean Combs?

00:04:36.240 Puff Daddy?

00:04:36.980 Yeah.

00:04:37.460 P. Diddy, whatever you call hisself.

00:04:38.920 Yeah, go ahead.

00:04:39.800 Yeah, he's part of what's called the Boulé.

00:04:42.140 The Boulé is a branch of the Illuminati. 1.00

00:04:45.440 Okay. 0.97

00:04:46.140 It's the black people. 0.81

00:04:47.800 I had settlement with Sean, okay? 0.72

00:04:49.740 And he belongs to that agenda.

00:04:52.140 That's why he's so famous.

00:04:53.760 They land all the contracts.

00:04:55.320 It's his attorneys. 0.99

00:04:57.100 I had sex with Cassie and Sean. 1.00

00:05:00.320 Basically, he would masturbate and tell me what to do with Cassie. 0.99

00:05:03.620 I had like 15 encounters and I heard a lot of business. 0.93

00:05:07.900 Because what they would do is Sean talks a lot on the phone and on the TV with people and stuff.

00:05:14.340 And I would be in the... 0.99

00:05:15.000 I was like a sex slave. 0.95

00:05:16.780 The hip-hop agenda is an agenda to move drugs all over the United States. 0.99

00:05:21.980 They move...

00:05:22.420 You need to inform the DEA.

00:05:24.640 They move all the dope, okay?

00:05:27.920 All the dope on private jets, which don't get screened by...

00:05:31.900 By...

00:05:32.900 By Customs?

00:05:34.760 By DEA.

00:05:35.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:36.420 By DEA.

00:05:37.140 Inside the United States.

00:05:39.920 So everything he's saying about the relationship between Diddy and Cassie ended up being verified and true and sounded insane at that time.

00:05:48.600 He also says that Diddy's a member of the Black Illuminati and that he would hear him on the phone discussing matters.

00:05:55.560 And the biggest thing is saying that there's a hip-hop agenda.

00:05:58.400 And essentially, they create these guys and enrich them because really what they're doing,

00:06:03.740 and further parts of this video, on behalf of the feds, is that they're moving drugs throughout the United States.

00:06:10.260 Yeah, that they're trafficking...

00:06:12.120 He implies very large amounts of drugs.

00:06:15.060 Like, I would assume bricks and bricks and bricks of drugs on their private jets.

00:06:19.160 And that got me thinking.

00:06:20.700 And then I started looking up which celebrities own private jets and how far can their private jets fly.

00:06:25.900 And a lot of them do own private jets.

00:06:28.020 Jay-Z's private jet is, like, famous or noteworthy because it has a very long range, so it can fly international, intercontinental.

00:06:36.400 And so that's interesting because when you do start to look into how private jets get treated at airports and stuff like that...

00:06:45.320 I mean, I'm no expert.

00:06:46.540 I've never been to these private jets.

00:06:48.820 But there's a lot of loopholes that are available, and you could definitely imagine that being a pretty smart way to do such a thing.

00:06:55.380 Right.

00:06:55.700 Yeah, we have a lot of history of both the feds and, you know, say, organized crime that works in the music industry, trafficking drugs.

00:07:02.580 And I've never really quite understood why Diddy's fame has lasted this long, why he is so wealthy, how he's doing all of these extravagant things.

00:07:10.100 Like, genuinely, I've never really quite understood it.

00:07:12.040 And it's just interesting because when two things that seem—actually, three things that seem so crazy end up fact-checking true.

00:07:18.700 He also mentioned in this—we didn't show this clip, but he mentions pink cocaine.

00:07:22.640 Yeah.

00:07:23.000 At that time, no one knew what he was talking about.

00:07:24.840 Suddenly, Little Rod's lawsuit is speaking about that exact same drug that he's saying is a combination of all sorts of drugs, like MDMA and cocaine.

00:07:33.200 And again, all of this is allegedly, but he says that essentially that's what Diddy is giving out at these parties that has people that is so high, rather.

00:07:42.220 And then another piece of this, which we didn't show, which he said at that time in terms of saving Trump, was he says that he saw in the Illuminati card deck that they were going to try to assassinate Trump.

00:07:55.100 Again, what year was this that Jonathan Odey was arrested?

00:07:57.540 That was 2018. 0.85

00:07:58.540 And we can also now confirm that he was indeed a sex slave to Cassie and Diddy because he's testifying at this trial, which is insane. 0.56

00:08:07.540 Is he? 0.93

00:08:07.960 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:08:08.540 Cassie was asked questions.

00:08:10.300 Yeah, Cassie testified about him.

00:08:10.780 And yeah, Cassie testified about him and was asked questions and confirmed.

00:08:15.060 I want him to take the stance so bad.

00:08:18.040 So what's going on here, Ian?

00:08:19.760 How can everything he say?

00:08:21.360 Oh, he just knew Trump was.

00:08:22.760 What's what is an Illuminati card deck?

00:08:24.740 And you're going to stop calling everybody conspiracy theorists because there's just no way.

00:08:28.660 There's just no way this happens.

00:08:29.660 Well, the thing that's really fun about that interview is that it's pretty clear from his when you listen to the whole thing a couple of times because of his crazy accent.

00:08:37.000 It's hard to tell.

00:08:37.500 But it's clear that he details very specific things about his encounters with Diddy and Cassie that he's clearly remembering actual events, especially now that we have confirmation that he's not entirely crazy.

00:08:48.720 But then there's also an element where he says a few times that he also did research online to sort of put things together because some things he's talking about how I overheard it on the phone.

00:08:58.780 I overheard it while I was there.

00:09:00.020 And other things, it's sort of more like I figured this out or I piece this together.

00:09:04.160 And so there's an element that's really fun in my mind of tinfoil where it's like, I presume that part of what he says in that interview is actual experiences that he had.

00:09:13.900 And part of it is him sort of piecing things together from online like 4chan style research.

00:09:18.540 And you don't necessarily know which is which, but we're starting to get a pick like we're starting to get confirmations of some of them.

00:09:24.300 And other ones seem more plausible and other ones are more like, I don't know.

00:09:28.060 He also casually says in his interview that Tupac is still alive and he's in Cuba.

00:09:32.980 Drops it out of nowhere.

00:09:34.500 And that's been a major conspiracy that Tupac's still alive.

00:09:37.140 I've never looked into that one.

00:09:38.260 I just want to be very clear.

00:09:39.660 But because I'm going back and I'm thinking it's just strange that everything this man said or too much of what he said has fact checked true, which seems so bizarre.

00:09:48.060 That another very bizarre claim he made that Tupac's alive is in Cuba and he's just like chilling and saying that just kind of gets you thinking about all sorts of other things.

00:09:56.920 What is reality?

00:09:57.880 All sorts of other things.

00:09:58.820 What is reality?

00:09:59.840 I also, while we're on the Black Boulay thing, Jonathan Aldi brings up the Black Boulay.

00:10:03.680 Could you describe, by the way, because when you actually brought up the Black Boulay, I had no idea what that was.

00:10:06.700 I don't know a lot about it.

00:10:07.780 And I think that there's a lot of versions of it.

00:10:09.460 I think that it's like, you know, Vatican conspiracies go all sorts of directions.

00:10:14.280 The Jew conspiracies go all sorts of directions. 0.95

00:10:16.120 And the Black Boulay, I think the understanding is that it traces back to like the Black nobility and one of the royal families.

00:10:22.660 I think there might be a Wikipedia.

00:10:24.060 Yeah, yeah, there is.

00:10:24.900 And so in modern times, there's lots of different takes on it.

00:10:29.780 But the theory is that you sell out your own.

00:10:31.900 And so the Black Boulay, my understanding, is that they are sort of the Black people that sell out the other Black people on behalf of, you know, the Illuminati or the guys controlling the world. 1.00

00:10:41.580 And LeBron James does have a gigantic back tattoo of the crest, like the symbol itself of the Black Boulay.

00:10:48.340 Very, very literally the exact image.

00:10:51.040 Or it's his chest, I think.

00:10:52.740 Yeah, I think it's on his chest.

00:10:53.920 I think I saw that in your video.

00:10:55.940 And so that's interesting that he's saying he's a member of this, especially as we're now learning so much about what took place at these diddy parties.

00:11:02.460 And I want to be clear here.

00:11:03.380 We can't really discuss Cassie's testimony because I try to keep this show family friendly.

00:11:08.720 And I just there's not a single piece of that that is that I can't read anything about these transcripts.

00:11:13.280 Suffice it to say, they were into just the most debased, disgusting sexual stuff that you could possibly imagine.

00:11:20.660 She was very clear that she was high on drugs throughout a lot of it.

00:11:24.180 I completely believe that based on what we've learned from Little Rod and learned from other people, including this guy, Jonathan Odie, that that was definitively one component of this.

00:11:32.820 But it's interesting that we're talking about the idea of these people selling out the Black community on behalf of somebody else, because there are some dogs that are not barking.

00:11:41.960 That had me very concerned in this case, because I read through Little Rod's lawsuit and I very much expected that the universal execs would be brought into this investigation.

00:11:50.660 Into the hearing, at the very least, to testify.

00:11:53.540 And also the biggest person missing here is Christina Karam.

00:11:57.920 OK, Skylar, can you pull up a picture of this Christina Karam? 0.67

00:12:01.740 You know who I'm speaking about.

00:12:04.000 Yeah, I mean, I didn't know who you were speaking about before this.

00:12:06.780 Oh, you didn't?

00:12:07.500 No, I wasn't really familiar with her.

00:12:08.860 OK, so she was all over the lawsuit.

00:12:12.120 And you've had people since that have brought her up.

00:12:14.460 And Skylar, I don't know.

00:12:15.720 We actually wouldn't even be able to show that.

00:12:17.400 And again, this is all allegedly.

00:12:19.260 But this was the Ghislaine Maxwell that was always at his side.

00:12:22.980 It has been alleged by people who say that they were abused by Diddy that she was allegedly placing IUDs in women. 0.56

00:12:31.720 People that have accused him of like a very aggressive form of rape have accused her of being the person that made all this happen.

00:12:38.160 In Little Rod's lawsuit, he was explicit in saying that she was the supplier of all the drugs.

00:12:43.120 She's just gone.

00:12:43.660 Like she's just for some reason, they thought we have to take down Diddy.

00:12:47.420 But it was very clear in Little Rod's lawsuit that Diddy was kept high intentionally because of her, because she was instructing people to keep him drugged, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly on this pink cocaine.

00:13:00.100 And she's gone.

00:13:01.180 I could not find a trace of this woman on the Internet.

00:13:04.620 How is that possible?

00:13:05.640 What a coincidence.

00:13:06.400 What a coincidence.

00:13:07.060 The Universal Music Execs.

00:13:08.240 Did you read what was in the lawsuits about that?

00:13:10.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:10.500 Yeah.

00:13:10.680 I mean, these lawsuits were in a lot of ways my introduction to all these people.

00:13:14.760 Like, I didn't know who Lucian Grange was before I read those lawsuits.

00:13:17.540 I wasn't paying attention to pop culture.

00:13:18.960 But the moment you read those lawsuits, it's immediately apparent and just logically apparent that if Diddy's thrown all these parties, Universal Music Group is in some way financially involved.

00:13:28.680 But the lawsuit alleges that they're directly financially involved in the lawsuit alleges that Lucian Grange frequently attended them and probably funded some of them and certainly had secret meetings or at least allegedly had secret meetings with Diddy frequently.

00:13:41.620 In his bedroom.

00:13:42.160 Yeah, in his bedroom for an hour or more.

00:13:44.560 And so all of that, like even suppose, you know, Lucian Grange and Universal Music Group, they get taken off of Little Rod's lawsuit, which was very strange.

00:13:52.060 Very strange.

00:13:52.440 Why would you just remove them from a lawsuit that people are getting drugged?

00:13:55.580 If you're going to go after Diddy, how can you not?

00:13:58.080 I mean, seriously.

00:13:58.960 We all know why.

00:13:59.760 Lucian Grange has been a very powerful figure for a very long time.

00:14:02.220 Started with a totally different name, by the way.

00:14:05.000 I don't trust men that change their names least of all three times.

00:14:09.080 A family that goes from Goldstein to G to Grange doesn't make sense to me.

00:14:13.980 And you have him at the top of the food chain, heavily implied by Little Rod, that they were allowing this to go on to get blackmail on certain people.

00:14:21.120 And they just disappear them.

00:14:22.340 Disappear them.

00:14:23.840 What's the logic here?

00:14:25.020 It's understandable.

00:14:25.520 No evidence.

00:14:25.900 There's tapes.

00:14:26.500 Little Rod said there's nothing but tapes.

00:14:28.200 Tapes of everything.

00:14:28.840 And that Diddy was taping the people that were coming as well.

00:14:31.500 Yeah.

00:14:31.860 Yeah.

00:14:32.260 So it's understandable that a powerful person would be taken off the lawsuit just because powerful people can get their names protected.

00:14:37.180 But in this case, Lucian Grange would be a star witness in any regard, even if he wasn't guilty.

00:14:43.300 So they don't want any kind of scrutiny.

00:14:45.400 They don't want anyone looking at Lucian.

00:14:46.820 They don't want anyone looking at Christina.

00:14:48.460 And in Little Rod's lawsuit, he names the guy that was in charge of Diddy's computer system.

00:14:54.100 He names the guy that was his tech guy that was in charge of all the cameras.

00:14:57.740 And no one's ever spoken about him since.

00:14:59.760 He's just gone.

00:15:00.760 So I do want to encourage people, because I do view this, and I want to be careful here.

00:15:05.280 I view this as a show trial.

00:15:07.660 Because most people are just looking at the names, looking at the insanity of the stories, of the things.

00:15:14.140 And I can say this, like a lot of urination was involved in what they were into.

00:15:19.000 And it's so crazy on its face to think that these A-listers are involved in all of this stuff, that people are not going to go back and look at the genesis of this lawsuit.

00:15:27.200 They're not going to read through what Little Rod put.

00:15:29.520 That's all they want you to focus on.

00:15:30.820 All they want you to focus on is the names.

00:15:32.240 They're bringing up Justin Bieber.

00:15:33.900 He says he's not involved.

00:15:35.100 You know, she's saying this person, this person, this person.

00:15:37.660 You guys have to go back to the beginning and read, because then you will realize, if you read Little Rod's lawsuit, you should read it front to back.

00:15:44.420 OK, because everything thus far that he has claimed as an allegation is checking out to be true.

00:15:50.860 So in the courtroom, and people laughed at his lawsuit when it first came out.

00:15:54.780 And I was like, I said, if here's Morgan, he's getting arrested.

00:15:57.000 Oh, there's no way around this.

00:15:58.080 There's too much video evidence.

00:15:59.240 Little Rod has this video evidence.

00:16:00.860 But there are some major dogs that are not barking here.

00:16:03.420 And they're all the most important ones.

00:16:05.700 Yeah.

00:16:05.900 And we also did.

00:16:06.520 We didn't mention Fahim Mohamed, who would be a pretty interesting dog to put on the stand.

00:16:10.160 Because Fahim Mohamed was one of the first people that we connected over.

00:16:13.420 One of us made a video about him.

00:16:15.340 You did.

00:16:15.860 I copied you.

00:16:16.500 And then that was the first time that we kind of started interacting on content.

00:16:21.260 And that rabbit hole started to go pretty deep.

00:16:23.780 And I actually then.

00:16:25.440 Well, explain to them, because most people might not be aware of this.

00:16:27.940 So let's explain it.

00:16:28.680 Fahim Mohamed, did he's head of security, is named in this lawsuit.

00:16:31.540 And he's named in this lawsuit as kind of the fixer, the guy that makes things go away, which is already pretty suspicious.

00:16:36.720 And then one of my followers commented in my comment section that, hey, that dude was Michael Jackson's head of security.

00:16:43.900 So I started digging into that.

00:16:44.940 And that's absolutely true.

00:16:45.900 And when you do the math, Michael Jackson's head of security, Fahim Mohamed, also did his head of security.

00:16:51.440 He graduated college like one year before Michael Jackson died in his care as his head of security.

00:16:58.880 One of two people that was there.

00:17:00.340 It was the doctor.

00:17:01.220 Second on the scene.

00:17:02.020 And it was him.

00:17:03.260 And he graduated with a business and marketing degree with a specialty in real estate, which does not sound like head of security material to me.

00:17:10.580 And then another researcher found out that he owns a whole bunch of land through his real estate company right on the border of Mexico.

00:17:16.600 And there's actually local local news television footage of him.

00:17:20.720 Like he gave a gift to his son of 40 acres of this land when his son turned 13.

00:17:26.840 And there's local news station footage of him taking the newscaster around the land.

00:17:31.380 And like they're like talking how they go out there all the time and have a good time.

00:17:34.560 And the border wall is right there in the TV shot.

00:17:37.240 And it's it's unreal just to think like how like, excuse me, this is during Biden's presidency.

00:17:42.220 This is when people are jumping over that border like crazy when there's all kinds of stuff going on on that border.

00:17:45.840 That's not the kind of land that you want to own as a real estate development company.

00:17:50.440 And then just to connect the dot as well as when he's mentioned in a Little Rod lawsuit as the fixer to show you how extreme what he's being accused of is, is essentially he's the guy you call if you shoot somebody.

00:17:59.740 Yeah, he intimates this scene in the lawsuit, Little Rod, where Diddy allegedly and his son allegedly shoot some guy in a bathroom.

00:18:09.220 Little Rod is is as this guy is bleeding out, cleaning up, trying to help this guy.

00:18:13.460 He's very close or just outside of the bathroom.

00:18:15.920 Little Rod might have been in the bathroom.

00:18:17.940 And he knows that after Diddy and his son come up and shoot this guy, he's trying to apply pressure to the wound.

00:18:23.980 And they know that you have to call this guy and he'll get the correct person over at LAPD to come over and they'll tell a lie.

00:18:32.360 And he says that the next day the press ran a story that there was a drive by shooting.

00:18:35.780 He's like, that's not what happened at all.

00:18:37.100 And it made me really think about the book Chaos that so many people on my podcast have listened to and watched.

00:18:41.980 I mean, I have listened to and it's describing a corrupt LAPD with feds that are involved and know how to disappear certain things.

00:18:49.280 And we know that to be factually true based on the Charles Manson murders.

00:18:52.580 So this makes me super uncomfortable.

00:18:54.860 Why is this man not being brought to heel?

00:18:57.120 Why do we not have this individual taking the stand and answering questions about any of that?

00:19:02.260 I mean, there's so much wrong with this picture. 0.91

00:19:03.840 I mean, if you're even so let's run with the idea of what the mainstream media is picturing Diddy's operation as is just a bunch of depraved sex.

00:19:11.320 The head of security of that operation is the first dude you should be talking to because the head of security for Diddy's depraved sex ring is going to know about everything that happened.

00:19:21.160 He's going to know where the people were, how they came in, where they left through all of it.

00:19:25.260 And so the fact that no one's mentioned Fahim Muhammad yet, and maybe they will, maybe they'll bring him in, but I haven't heard his name yet at all in relation to this trial.

00:19:31.980 And so you couldn't paint a better picture for a show trial that is designed to be salacious and crazy and wild and scandalous in all the wrong directions.

00:19:39.940 In all the wrong directions.

00:19:40.600 And hide what was really going on.

00:19:42.040 Because it's still going on.

00:19:43.020 It is still going on.

00:19:43.760 And I want to get your opinion on Cassie because it's an interesting one.

00:19:47.340 And she's definitely a victim of domestic violence, but then people testifying to how she was involved.

00:19:53.200 Complicated issue to kind of look at.

00:19:54.580 You know, do you see Cassie here as the victor and the victim of this situation?

00:19:59.460 Or do you see her as somebody who's actually getting away with having done a lot?

00:20:02.680 Before we do that, I do want to throw to a couple of our sponsors.

00:20:05.160 First and foremost, Brickhouse Nutrition.

00:20:06.560 This doesn't happen often, so you're going to want to jump on this.

00:20:09.500 Brickhouse Nutrition's Memorial Day sale is officially live.

00:20:11.740 For a limited time, you can save 25% off everything with my code, MEMORIAL25.

00:20:17.700 Their collagen, creatine, and any of their other doctor-formulated products all on sale for 25% off.

00:20:23.280 The sale includes our favorite of their products, Field of Greens,

00:20:25.720 which is their super fruit and vegetable drink that literally promises your doctor will notice your improved health

00:20:30.440 or you will get all of your money back.

00:20:32.000 All the fruits and vegetables were doctor-selected for a specific health benefit.

00:20:35.340 Field of Greens is perfect for heart health, lungs, kidney metabolism, and even maintaining a healthy weight.

00:20:40.400 One drink a day is all it takes.

00:20:41.900 Kick off a healthy summer and save big while you're at it.

00:20:44.580 So go to BrickhouseNutrition.com.

00:20:47.340 Use code MEMORIAL25 for 25% off and do not wait.

00:20:51.360 The sale's only on for a few days.

00:20:53.040 Again, BrickhouseNutrition.com.

00:20:54.880 Code MEMORIAL25, BrickhouseNutrition.com.

00:20:58.120 Also reminding you guys about Pure Talk because what if I told you that you could be

00:21:01.080 cutting your cell phone bill in half and also support a U.S. company that shares your values?

00:21:06.100 Values like supporting our veterans and creating American jobs.

00:21:09.100 What if I told you that you don't have to sacrifice coverage to do that because you'll be on America's most dependable 5G network?

00:21:13.940 I'm talking about the only wireless company that I endorse, Pure Talk, a wireless company that is veteran-led and invests in a U.S. customer service team so that you have the best support possible.

00:21:23.800 If you're with Verizon, AT&T, or T-Mobile, join the hundreds of thousands who have successfully cut their cell phone bill in half.

00:21:29.100 That's right.

00:21:29.520 The average family saves over $1,000 a year when they switch to Pure Talk.

00:21:32.920 Switching, you can do that in as little as 10 minutes if you go to PureTalk.com slash Owens with plans starting at just $25 a month.

00:21:40.420 I mean, what are you waiting for?

00:21:41.200 Go to PureTalk.com slash Owens and make the switch to Pure Talk wireless by Americans and for Americans.

00:21:48.180 Okay, so Cassie, this is complicated.

00:21:50.880 I don't really know how I feel about it.

00:21:53.160 It's a lot, I think.

00:21:55.040 First and foremost, there's no question she's a victim.

00:21:57.020 We've watched this woman get beat on camera. 1.00

00:21:58.680 She was definitively in a domestic violence relationship, a relationship with domestic violence, rather.

00:22:03.100 And there's a lot that comes with that, like, you know, anguish, pain.

00:22:07.000 You want to go back to the person, think that they can protect you.

00:22:09.740 And I also want to be clear that she met Diddy when she was 19 years old, which is so different from the Harvey case.

00:22:15.440 I keep stressing to people, these women were like 27 to 30 years old. 1.00

00:22:19.220 They knew what they were doing.

00:22:20.920 Cassie's brain was not developed.

00:22:22.480 She sees Diddy walk in.

00:22:23.660 He's got so much power and money.

00:22:24.940 Women are attracted to that and thinking he can take care of her. 1.00

00:22:28.680 And he kind of gets her in this scenario.

00:22:30.340 But it is hard to know, as Jonathan Odie says and other people have said, is that she was involved in some of the abuses that were happening to other people.

00:22:41.300 So she it's it's just interesting to kind of consider Cassie in this where what she has done is definitively heroic and exposing everything and in taking the stand.

00:22:49.240 But do you wipe her clean of everything that she's done and think like, you know what?

00:22:52.660 She was really in a really bad situation.

00:22:54.920 And she stayed in that relationship for 10 years, by the way.

00:22:57.080 So it wasn't like it was a short relationship.

00:22:58.300 It was 10 full years of this.

00:22:59.980 I it's a good question.

00:23:01.860 I think that I do absolve her of guilt, specifically because of what's written in her lawsuit in the sense that when you're 19 and in her lawsuit, my memory of it is that she actually took a while to be taken in by him.

00:23:19.880 She wasn't immediately like, oh, my gosh, Diddy, I'm going to like walk.

00:23:22.480 But rather, he can't he like plied her over the course of a year and eventually it was with drugs that he eventually got through to her and he kind of like drugged her one night and then like took her out and then sort of like weaseled his way into her life is the way it was portrayed.

00:23:34.380 And that is in her words, obviously trying to paint herself in the best light, probably.

00:23:38.440 But when you're 19 and drugs that are very quickly, very addictive are involved and very serious physical abuse is involved from that early age and and the types of abuses we're talking about when you try to leave, when you try to wrong him at all, that the ways that people describe Diddy's abuse from that age onwards, that does something to your brain that I do not blame her for her complete.

00:24:03.940 Because like, let's be real, Diddy's a bigger dude that could beat her senseless that we've seen her senseless.

00:24:09.920 Absolutely. And so if she's complicit in any of those crimes while she's with him, that is Diddy's crime.

00:24:15.200 Right. And we we have more than enough evidence to see that's Diddy's fault and Diddy's crime.

00:24:19.740 And then when you top it all off with her having the gumption to bring that case and to stand up and speak and to file that lawsuit, which started all these lawsuits, she's the one that opened the floodgates here. 1.00

00:24:30.640 Yeah. That's incredibly brave. And that's something that all the women that came before her, all the men that came before her, all the sex slaves that came before did not do. Right.

00:24:38.900 And so I'm, I'm inclined to think of Cassie as a bit of a hero in this situation.

00:24:44.440 But she did settle. She did settle. 1.00

00:24:45.900 She did settle. 0.51

00:24:46.360 I think she settled and then she released the tape, somehow got the tape out, which I think was really brave.

00:24:49.660 I tend to agree with you. I think the only part that I struggle with is that, and this is philosophical again, so I'm not casting any judgment, but when the victim then victimizes, think about that person who she victimized.

00:25:01.240 And they're like, no, I distinctly remember Cassie threatening me because this has come out and they've shared text messages throughout this lawsuit of her threatening people and saying, I'm going to have this done to you or whatever.

00:25:10.400 Obviously with herself feeling threatened as she described, because she felt like, well, a person could release a tape of her at this freak off.

00:25:17.120 And I'm like, okay, but what about that person? If they, if they experience, their experience is actually, you know, Cassie victimized me.

00:25:23.040 It gets so convoluted, but I think you do have to kind of go back to the beginning and go, yeah, you know, she was 19.

00:25:29.060 She was plied with drugs. She was plied with alcohol. And yeah, she was groomed in my, in my, in my viewpoint. 0.99

00:25:34.340 Like she, obviously nothing that was done was illegal. She was of 19, 19 years old.

00:25:38.420 But our understanding is that women, your brain is not developed. 1.00

00:25:42.380 Well, domestic abuse is illegal.

00:25:43.280 Exactly. Yeah.

00:25:44.480 And bombing cars is illegal.

00:25:45.620 No, no, no, no, no. I mean that like him dating her.

00:25:48.780 Yeah, the sexual side.

00:25:49.540 Their relationship was not, yeah, illegal in terms of her age, but.

00:25:52.540 And somewhat consensual.

00:25:54.080 And somewhat consensual, that's what I mean.

00:25:55.540 But she was still 19 and her brain wasn't developed.

00:25:57.940 So it's been tricky and you see people that are making a lot of comments, but the reality is we would not even be where we are today if it had not been for Cassie's first step in dropping that lawsuit for the public to see.

00:26:07.700 And then maybe that gave a little rod the courage, then drop his lawsuit and kind of the floodgates opened from there.

00:26:13.380 I'm also just, I'm prone to empathizing with people of all varieties from all walks of life, because I think that's really important.

00:26:18.800 That comes from being raised by teachers and thinking as a teacher often is you have to understand where people are coming from.

00:26:23.900 And when it comes to Diddy, it's like, like you can do that a little bit, but it's much easier to understand where Cassie's coming from.

00:26:30.500 And certainly she has committed crimes and certainly she has, is not, her hands are not clean.

00:26:34.720 But you have to take each person for what their life is worth and what their crimes are and what their story is.

00:26:40.120 And in general, I think that Cassie's, uh, Cassie's hurt and then help at the end of this situation.

00:26:46.920 I think that in my mind, that outweighs what she, what she did wrong.

00:26:50.280 I tend to agree with you.

00:26:51.060 Yeah.

00:26:51.280 I was thinking about it.

00:26:51.820 I do think what she's done has been actually an act of bravery.

00:26:55.160 And it is, the whole situation is obviously tragic.

00:26:58.020 You're talking about empathy.

00:26:59.400 You're talking about sympathy.

00:27:01.040 We should probably now speak about a lot that has happened in the last 24 hours and some of it just way too predictable.

00:27:06.840 I guess I'll start by saying I have blood on my hands again.

00:27:09.540 Yeah.

00:27:10.120 It's incredible.

00:27:10.880 We both do.

00:27:11.600 I have had blood on my hands so much throughout my career.

00:27:14.380 And I want to just call out the left and the right for engaging in this.

00:27:18.080 I think it's so, it's so tacky.

00:27:19.620 It's overdone.

00:27:20.880 Nobody's buying it anymore.

00:27:22.320 Trying to score political points.

00:27:23.500 Something happens.

00:27:24.180 I remember my first time was pretty bad.

00:27:25.460 It was a mosque shooting in New Zealand and they were like, you have blood on your hands.

00:27:29.120 I was like, I've never been to New Zealand.

00:27:30.420 I don't speak about mosques or Muslims.

00:27:31.900 What have I done?

00:27:32.940 And it becomes this way.

00:27:33.840 They're like, well, you're mentioning a manifesto.

00:27:35.840 What do I have to do with New Zealand and mosque shootings?

00:27:38.400 Nobody knows.

00:27:39.040 But it becomes this way.

00:27:40.600 And I do want to get to manifestos.

00:27:41.600 I find them to be extremely suspect now.

00:27:44.360 They're always ready, found immediately.

00:27:46.840 And they say exactly what they need to say in order for people to go after certain people.

00:27:51.840 But anyways, this is obviously last night.

00:27:55.020 Terrible tragedy happens.

00:27:56.120 You get two Israeli diplomats who are gunned down in D.C.

00:28:00.360 We don't have footage yet.

00:28:01.920 We don't have footage yet of that shooting, but we do know that a person then entered into it was a museum, correct?

00:28:08.460 I think it was a museum where this event was being hosted.

00:28:11.220 And the event was something of a quote from the organizer of the event said something like, this was an event to build bridges towards peace in the Middle East, towards building bridges between the different nations in the Middle East.

00:28:23.160 So it was definitely a progressive style of an event.

00:28:26.620 It was not a BB style event, for sure.

00:28:29.040 And they this individual then screams free Palestine.

00:28:33.360 And of course, now the Internet is accusing everybody who has ever said the right thing about what is happening in Gaza of having blood on our hands because we have been humane towards that.

00:28:43.420 And conflating it with anti-Semitism, too, which is like maybe maybe he was anti-Semitic.

00:28:49.480 Maybe he killed them just because they were Jewish.

00:28:51.280 But all the evidence that I'm seeing is that it was political and and conflating the fact that they were Jewish with the fact that he was saying free Palestine and you're Israeli having to do with the Israeli government.

00:29:01.700 That is those are not the same thing.

00:29:03.740 It's crazy.

00:29:04.400 It's not the same thing.

00:29:05.600 It's crazy.

00:29:06.100 And it's it's also extremely desperate to me.

00:29:08.280 I think there's no other way to look at everything that's transpired than to acknowledge the Zionists have lost the moral argument. 0.98

00:29:14.980 They've lost the moral high ground if they ever had it.

00:29:17.540 And too many Americans are awakened to this, especially the youth are awakened to these sorts of tactics.

00:29:23.080 And they just did too much too fast, trying to cancel too many people, trying to call everybody literally Hitler.

00:29:29.000 Eventually, people go, OK, everyone can't be Adolf Hitler that has that disagrees with you.

00:29:34.160 And people have survived these cancellations.

00:29:36.280 Tucker Carlson, myself, they're now call now they're using the strategy of saying we're all funded by Qatar.

00:29:40.880 And it just looks messy and inauthentic.

00:29:44.060 And their platforms are dying.

00:29:45.560 They're sending out bots to try to pretend that they're popular.

00:29:48.500 I don't really know what's going on.

00:29:49.880 But I do want to say that I think it was actually Jordan Peterson who said correctly that once you get to a state where you start going after the comedians, right, then you know that you are existing under the things are about to get there.

00:30:02.860 Very authoritarian.

00:30:04.320 They've gone after Joe Rogan, right?

00:30:06.420 They have gone after Dave Smith.

00:30:08.500 Big time.

00:30:08.860 Big time, right?

00:30:09.740 They are going after now Theo Vaughn.

00:30:13.400 They've gone after Tim Dillon.

00:30:14.560 And I want to show you what Theo Vaughn posted.

00:30:18.180 And this was yesterday.

00:30:19.280 And so now he legally has blood in his hands.

00:30:21.660 On to his Twitter feed.

00:30:24.000 He shared it.

00:30:24.660 It went absolutely viral.

00:30:26.340 And they're now diagnosing Theo Vaughn as mentally ill because he shared this sentiment.

00:30:32.680 Let's play this clip in its entirety.

00:30:34.120 You know, I wanted to say something.

00:30:36.400 There's been something that's just been kind of on my heart.

00:30:38.180 And so I feel like I should bring it up.

00:30:41.860 There is, you know, we've had people on the podcast in the past to talk about it.

00:30:46.820 Um, and there's just a, there's a conflict that's been happening in the Middle East.

00:30:55.860 People know about it, um, between Israel and Palestine and some of the areas over there,

00:31:02.360 the Gaza area they talk about.

00:31:04.020 And, uh, and I just think it's, it feels to me, I don't know if I, it just, it feels to

00:31:12.820 me like it's a genocide that's happening while we're alive here in front of our, in front

00:31:20.220 of our lives.

00:31:21.420 Um, and I, I don't, sometimes I feel like I should say something.

00:31:28.180 I'm not a geologist or geographer or anything like that, you know?

00:31:32.180 So I don't know a lot of the, some of it I do know though.

00:31:37.300 Like I know the basics of the issues over there, but for me, it's just like how I feel

00:31:42.540 like you see all these photos of, um, people, just children, women, people, body parts, just

00:31:52.860 people like putting their kids back together.

00:31:56.100 Um, and I just can't believe that we're watching that and that more isn't said about it.

00:32:03.180 Um, and so I'm not saying anyone else needs to say anything, but I think I'm just that more

00:32:08.000 isn't said about it by me.

00:32:09.260 So I just, uh, I want to be able to speak up about that, that I think we're watching

00:32:15.240 probably like, you know, one of the sickest things that's ever happened.

00:32:21.820 And, uh, and I'm sorry if I've kind of haven't said about it, I've tried to talk about it and

00:32:27.000 learn about it.

00:32:28.220 Um, but I don't know, maybe I just want to, I just wanted to say something.

00:32:33.960 I don't even know what to do, you know?

00:32:36.900 And it's crazy cause our country is also complicit in, in, you know, it's, uh, in, in it and

00:32:42.000 has been for a long time.

00:32:43.220 And, um, and it's just kind of interesting cause then you just realize, oh, well, I'm

00:32:47.240 just a, yeah, I'm a member of this country, but I'm just, what we want sometimes doesn't

00:32:53.240 matter, you know?

00:32:55.360 And you just have to be a member of a place and your government is making other choices.

00:33:00.960 So I don't know if I, I don't know if I said that correctly or I don't even know exactly

00:33:04.660 what I said, but I just, I just have, it just like been making me really sick.

00:33:08.980 And I feel like I just needed to say something that I think you don't have to think that I'm

00:33:15.840 not asking you to do anything.

00:33:19.100 Um, but I just have to say that.

00:33:22.160 So I'm not sitting by, you know, there's that peace inside of me.

00:33:27.380 Like, why, why wouldn't you, can you say something?

00:33:30.320 You know, there's people that can't even speak and you can say something, you know? 1.00

00:33:34.360 And so that's how I, I just had to just speak up anyway.

00:33:38.980 Yeah.

00:33:39.660 So just praying for those people and just the grief that that is all going to cause.

00:33:47.180 I can't even, basically what I want to say about that clip is that it makes you want to

00:33:54.300 cry because it was so heartfelt.

00:33:57.520 Just clearly genuine.

00:33:58.860 Like there's not been a clip more genuine on the internet in a long time, I feel like.

00:34:01.940 Yeah.

00:34:02.520 And I can empathize with him because I felt that pressure last year where I

00:34:08.280 kind of went, I have a massive platform.

00:34:11.680 There are people who can't say anything.

00:34:13.120 I am watching before they somehow cleaned up X every day.

00:34:16.280 I was just watching these kids being blown up.

00:34:18.000 I was watching people starving.

00:34:19.600 And I remember distinctly what it was, um, that made me feel like I had to say something.

00:34:24.260 And it was, uh, the sound of a mother screaming after her daughter was killed.

00:34:29.980 And I remember her holding the lifeless body and the rubble.

00:34:34.060 And I had to say something and it cost me actually, in retrospect, literally nothing.

00:34:40.080 Yeah.

00:34:40.320 But at the time, it felt like it cost me everything.

00:34:43.420 Right.

00:34:43.720 And I realized it cost me nothing because when you do the right thing, um, when you open

00:34:48.280 yourself up to God and recognize that all of these things that you think matter are nothing.

00:34:53.060 Like there is an eternal source that is going to take care of you when you say the right

00:34:56.580 thing.

00:34:56.940 That is what I felt.

00:34:57.840 And I wanted to cry when, especially he's so genuine.

00:35:00.000 He's like, I'm not a geologist or a geographer, you know, he's like, I, but I'm a guy who

00:35:04.980 has a platform and I can't look at these images anymore.

00:35:07.860 The reaction to that on X. 1.00

00:35:10.500 You're mentally ill. 1.00

00:35:11.440 You're mentally ill. 1.00

00:35:12.000 You're evil. 1.00

00:35:12.840 Oh my. 0.99

00:35:13.380 And it's all name calling.

00:35:14.440 It's all just names.

00:35:15.520 Right.

00:35:15.960 It's like, there's no actual discussion.

00:35:19.360 There's no, there's nothing but name calling. 0.99

00:35:21.960 You're evil. 0.99

00:35:22.920 Theo. 0.99

00:35:23.460 We have that tweet that someone responded to him.

00:35:25.800 And I'm just going to read the top of it because it's way too long.

00:35:28.540 Um, but genuine question for you, Theo Vaughn, have you been formally diagnosed with severe

00:35:34.580 mental illness?

00:35:36.040 You should really get yourself checked out.

00:35:38.860 Now put aside the fact that you traveled to Qatar and took a huge chunk of cash, but

00:35:44.740 they must be really desperate to pick you.

00:35:48.840 What in the glorious F would a geologist know about the conflict? 1.00

00:35:52.820 And then just kind of just, you're an idiot. 1.00

00:35:54.420 You know, this sort of a thing where they're just stripping him down and being like, you 1.00

00:35:58.560 know, nothing. 1.00

00:35:59.240 You're an idiot. 1.00

00:36:00.020 These are people that we're supposed to be siding with in this conflict who speak like 1.00

00:36:02.800 this.

00:36:03.020 Like what, what a way to get somebody on your side.

00:36:04.520 We all just watched Theo Vaughn's clip and felt that he was struggling with this internally. 0.99

00:36:09.840 And what we get in response is, by the way, he's mentally ill. 0.99

00:36:12.500 Okay. 1.00

00:36:12.700 Add it to the pile.

00:36:13.420 Candace is a, what is it? 0.99

00:36:15.580 Cluster B psychopath. 0.99

00:36:17.040 Yes. 0.98

00:36:17.360 Um, and Theo Vaughn's mentally ill and Joe Rogan needs an intervention per Sam Harris.

00:36:23.500 And, but these guys have got it all figured out.

00:36:25.540 Yeah.

00:36:25.640 They don't, they don't seem to understand how the internet works and how young people work 1.00

00:36:29.820 too.

00:36:30.180 It's like, I feel like more and more young people are getting to the point of not liking

00:36:35.020 Israel, where it's like, when your kid likes music that you don't want them to listen to 0.60

00:36:39.600 and you start telling them not to listen to it.

00:36:41.660 And then your kid just says, no, stop it, mom.

00:36:44.380 Cause you're just like, what, why are you explaining?

00:36:47.040 Like, why are you saying it that way?

00:36:48.060 Why are you calling them names?

00:36:49.080 Why are you going after every single person that people like?

00:36:53.680 And it's just ad hominem attacks.

00:36:55.680 Exactly.

00:36:56.440 And it's so dishonest and the way that they try to interpret it.

00:36:58.980 And do you think the response to that now, knowing what we know about expressing that

00:37:05.000 and how they try to ruin your life, we could talk about even Ms. Rachel, who they demanded

00:37:09.340 a, and they, I'm explicitly speaking about these pro-Zionist groups, demanded that the

00:37:14.300 DOJ investigate her for taking money from Qatar.

00:37:17.080 The new opinion is that if you have a problem seeing a child blown up, if you have a problem

00:37:21.900 with children starving, because Israel is not allowing aid to get into that territory,

00:37:26.400 if you have a problem with the images of a woman yelling at wailing, as she's holding

00:37:34.060 her child, if you have a problem with tens of thousands of murdered innocents.

00:37:38.580 And by the way, the last time that we had the number check, they will, cause they don't

00:37:41.120 tell you anymore.

00:37:42.020 It's gotta be, we, we've gotta be close to six figures now, in my opinion.

00:37:45.860 Okay.

00:37:46.220 Because that's how long ago it was at like 50,000.

00:37:48.960 But if you have a problem with any of that, the amount of death, the destruction that's

00:37:52.820 happening, you're being funded by Qatar.

00:37:55.100 They're even handing out names.

00:37:56.220 They're calling him Tucker Katarlson.

00:37:58.480 And so I want to be, if this is what we do, we all get Qatar names for having basic, you

00:38:03.760 know, human response to tragedy.

00:38:07.100 I want to be Katandis.

00:38:08.700 Katandis Owens.

00:38:09.920 You don't want to be Katardis?

00:38:11.640 Katardis.

00:38:12.060 No, they're Katarded. 1.00

00:38:13.420 They are Katarded. 1.00

00:38:14.200 By blaming everybody on this.

00:38:16.500 But I want to be Katandis and you are Ian Katarl.

00:38:19.260 I'll be Ian Katarl.

00:38:20.080 Yeah, for sure.

00:38:20.680 I already am, right?

00:38:21.720 So.

00:38:21.980 Right.

00:38:23.060 But this is their argument.

00:38:24.160 You're funded by Katar.

00:38:24.940 Dave Smith, same thing.

00:38:26.040 You're funded by Katar.

00:38:27.200 No evidence.

00:38:28.540 Just lies.

00:38:29.400 And it's like, if you want people to come over to your side, you have to stop being a 0.95

00:38:33.880 liar.

00:38:34.700 It's always you are wrong. 1.00

00:38:37.680 You are mentally ill. 1.00

00:38:38.700 It's never what is Israeli's actions? 1.00

00:38:41.580 What is Israel doing that might cause someone to criticize them?

00:38:45.060 And it's the same thing that I'm talking about with that shooter.

00:38:47.360 Again, it's like, again, horrible tragedy.

00:38:49.880 But is he anti-Semitic?

00:38:51.980 Or if Israel wasn't bombing children every single day and that whole conflict wasn't happening 0.84

00:38:57.720 this way right now, do you think he still would have done that because he hates Jews?

00:39:01.500 Or is it because of what we're seeing on the TV that he got like radicalized?

00:39:05.740 Right.

00:39:05.940 What about the guy who self-immolated, who was in the Navy and said that there were a bunch

00:39:10.060 of things going on that that it was intended to be a genocide?

00:39:13.460 And his name was Aaron.

00:39:15.100 And I'm blanking on his last name.

00:39:16.480 Forgive me.

00:39:17.260 But he set himself on fire, self-immolated, because he said he was trying to draw attention.

00:39:21.580 This was way early on before people were really tuned in to what I refer to now as a Holocaust 0.91

00:39:26.520 of what's happening in Gaza is very clearly a Holocaust. 0.52

00:39:29.600 And do you think that he what he just wanted?

00:39:31.900 And oh, well, he was you know, he's mentally ill because he set himself on fire is what they 0.98

00:39:35.080 say. 0.96

00:39:35.520 And people are having a reaction.

00:39:37.840 Never justifies violence.

00:39:39.320 What happened is a tragedy.

00:39:40.520 You should never think that your solution to that should be, well, I'm going to go take

00:39:44.140 other innocent life because I'm upset about what's happening.

00:39:46.580 That's just wrong.

00:39:47.960 But to you to pretend that people that are having a normal human response to what's happening

00:39:52.660 or try to now censor speech and they're trying to criminalize people that are saying free

00:39:57.020 Palestine or speaking about Gaza.

00:39:59.020 Now you all have blood on your hands.

00:40:00.600 No, no, no, no, no.

00:40:02.020 Yibirn and Yahoo has blood on your hands.

00:40:03.640 And this only underscores how little you value Palestinian life, that it takes two Israeli citizens

00:40:10.060 being killed for you to have this reaction when you're basically punishing us and calling

00:40:15.500 for us to be canceled and banned all of these things. 0.56

00:40:17.540 We're having a human response to tens of thousands of innocent women and children being

00:40:21.840 slaughtered in a territory next to Israel or a part of Israel, rather, an apartheid state,

00:40:27.120 you know, whatever you want to call it.

00:40:29.020 And so, yeah, it's it's it's really disappointing to just kind of see this happen over and over

00:40:33.660 again.

00:40:34.560 Now, it's really educational.

00:40:35.960 If you want to learn how propaganda works, how the Hasbara works, how the mind control

00:40:40.940 works, all you need to do is study the Israel-Palestine conflict, because Israel has been waging

00:40:45.860 a information war on the American people all along, and they still do today.

00:40:50.320 And they're every day you can log in and watch their tactics and see how they try to do this.

00:40:55.340 And it doesn't really work.

00:40:56.220 But if you study it, you can then see it in other realms as well, because that's the only

00:41:00.860 weapon they have when this is the reality of how many kids are being killed on this side versus

00:41:06.200 the other side.

00:41:08.360 Right.

00:41:08.720 And it's funny you mentioned them waging an information war, because we've showed on the

00:41:11.780 show many times the clip of the eventual prime minister of Israel when Wikipedia first got

00:41:18.180 started speaking about how they had employed this whole team to write, you know, and they also

00:41:22.480 had the same thing for X. They have all these IDF soldiers that are writing responses and

00:41:27.180 controlling bot accounts. That footage exists. None of that is a conspiracy theory. You can look

00:41:31.380 that up on my past episodes where I showed it. But I also messaged you. They disappeared this

00:41:35.820 article, which was super weird. We've got to get into your Kabbalah bracelet, too.

00:41:38.720 Oh, yeah. The 4chan thing?

00:41:40.520 The 4chan thing.

00:41:41.380 Yeah.

00:41:41.700 How weird was that? I sent it to you. So Reuters published a piece. Notorious internet message

00:41:48.740 board. 4chan has been hacked. The post claims and they were alleging that the basically Israel

00:41:57.060 was revealed as the top contributor since 2014 on 4chan with 221 million posts onto 4chan in a

00:42:08.260 major data breach. And then Reuters disappeared. The article I've never seen that happen. Usually

00:42:12.420 a correction, something Reuters disappeared. This article entirely. This was very recent and 4chan

00:42:18.300 came up because apparently there was a thread that was started about you wearing this Kabbalah

00:42:23.100 bracelet. So let's show Ian on my show a couple of weeks ago wearing a Kabbalah bracelet and suddenly

00:42:28.840 this caused a firestorm. So would you like to explain whether or not you are a Mossad operative or a

00:42:37.120 Kabbalist?

00:42:37.820 Yeah, but I had to take a break from the show to fly back to talk to my handlers for a little bit

00:42:42.040 because the bracelet obviously was too overt. No, my girlfriend gave it to me. I explained it

00:42:49.640 on X. I was under the impression because I knew a little bit about the Kabbalah bracelets. I was

00:42:53.880 under the impression that it's a red string because people had freaked out about Tucker when he wore a

00:42:58.240 red string. She's like, you know what? Have your opinion of Tucker Carlson, whatever you want to do,

00:43:03.160 whatever floats your boat. So when I got this red bracelet, I was like, ha, this looks a lot like the

00:43:08.520 red string Kabbalah bracelet thing.

00:43:10.180 But look who's writing this. Like Mr. Nobody. Okay. Random account. Go ahead.

00:43:14.920 Well, and then here's the thing is like, regardless of what bracelets people wear, it's like,

00:43:19.440 if that's your standard of evidence, bro, like how can I trust anything you're coming up with?

00:43:23.460 Because I know my own history and I know like, I know what is going on in my life. And so if that's

00:43:28.220 the standard of evidence, it's like, dude, like maybe, like maybe the red shoe club is real.

00:43:32.400 Maybe they're sending signs and doing like hand signals and stuff. But I'm like, can you trust that

00:43:37.360 every time? Because so for me, it's like, it blows up into this whole big thing online,

00:43:41.640 which was kind of wild. It's like, whoa, guys, calm down. Calm down.

00:43:44.040 It was mostly on X is what I noticed. It was all on X. And I know that they're running tons

00:43:48.340 of bot farms on X. I never take it seriously if it's coming from X and I'm getting tagged on X and

00:43:52.860 then 4chan. And I knew about this disappearance of this 4chan article. I thought it was very weird.

00:43:57.820 There were obviously people that then believe and start to read into it. But I do want to say this.

00:44:02.540 I have been through so many of those scandals. And so I felt really bad for you. We used to literally have

00:44:07.060 my producer, no matter what I wore, she'd be like, you know, what's that symbol? I'm like,

00:44:11.640 what do you mean? What's I got this from Zara? And she's like, OK, but like, we should look it up

00:44:14.720 to make sure it doesn't mean something. Because a couple of times, first and foremost, when I think

00:44:18.860 I do this. Oh, my gosh. So there was a photo. No. And they I didn't know that whatever.

00:44:25.320 No, I sniffle my hands. Yes. Because you don't know what to do with your hands. Like Talladega

00:44:28.660 Nights made that clear. Sometimes you don't know what to do with your hands. And when I think I do this.

00:44:31.620 And so there was an image of me mid thought that they then were like, Candace is in the Illuminati. I'm like,

00:44:36.040 what I was literally you can see prepping for my show. And they caught a photo of me. And I

00:44:40.660 always do this. It's a bad habit. Maybe I should stop doing it. But I'm thinking now I kind of try

00:44:45.700 to do this or what I think. Tactile actually helps you think. There's studies that show that using

00:44:49.200 your hands helps you think. I always do it. I'm like, OK, what was I thinking? What was I thinking?

00:44:52.400 And then I went to New York during COVID and wanted to brag about the fact that I had gotten around

00:44:59.020 their COVID restrictions. I didn't get vaccinated and had managed to get myself a slice of pizza,

00:45:03.060 made the mistake of posting the box of pizza in a car. And next thing I knew, I was at the center

00:45:08.640 of Pizzagate. And they were like, why would she post this? And even if she's not, blah, blah, blah,

00:45:12.520 then she should be more responsible with her platform. And what I've grown to, first and

00:45:16.140 foremost, appreciate, because it's not like we're I don't mean to say, oh, my God, you guys are so 0.98

00:45:21.580 crazy. You're too terminally on the Internet. Thing is, is that they don't realize that some people 0.97

00:45:25.700 really are green. What I mean is that they're new to this thing. They don't know all of the hand

00:45:30.000 gestures, all the signs, all the conspiracy theories. And I found myself feeling like I

00:45:34.380 was being drowned. The bigger my platform was like my my platform is kind of very quickly,

00:45:39.040 kind of like yours, like, you know, suddenly you're making videos and then more and more

00:45:42.420 people are watching them. They think that, you know, all this stuff and you really don't

00:45:45.680 know what everything means. And you take this bracelet from your girlfriend's dad and he's

00:45:49.920 like, I'm watching you. The Irish Catholics, by the way, like they had traveled to Greece.

00:45:54.460 And when she was younger, she had like gotten this one of these types of bracelets in Greece

00:45:57.980 because it is it's an evil eye bracelet in Greece, I believe. Yeah, she didn't. She does

00:46:01.360 not know that. But so she it's like a cutesy thing for her and her dad. When he travels,

00:46:05.780 he gets them for her. But they're Irish Catholics. And so he makes and, you know, kind of an awkward 1.00

00:46:10.040 dad joke about it. But I'm like, whatever, bro. Cool. Like, sure. Bracelet. Yeah. It's

00:46:14.680 just interesting. Internet, dude, guys, calm down. Because if you think that Candace Owens's show 1.00

00:46:19.340 is being run by the Kabbalah, if you think that that the Jews want you talking about the fact 0.98

00:46:25.340 that Emmanuel Macron has been groomed in this way that he has. Right. Like if you think that the

00:46:30.640 things that I talk about on my show, like my multi hour long podcast about the dancing Israelis

00:46:35.540 and about Jeffrey Epstein and about, you know, the Israeli mafia, if you think that all of that is

00:46:40.940 what they want us talking about, then I am really worried. Yeah. About what we're not supposed to

00:46:45.380 talk about. Yeah. And but when we talk about these information wars, like you also have to be aware

00:46:49.560 when you are being infiltrated with their trust, they kind of want to make you distrust people all the

00:46:54.000 time. And you have yet COINTELPRO 101. And you have to take people look at our work, you know,

00:46:59.240 look at look at what I'm doing in book club, what books we're reading, the fact that I'm even speaking

00:47:02.780 about the Kabbalah, our next book that we have coming up. And so I just wanted to give you the

00:47:06.660 opportunity. I was like, those things you have to address head on and you have to do it without

00:47:09.720 trying to condemn people who may just have been in this thing a lot longer. And many of them have

00:47:14.040 been. It's important that people think for themselves like they you know, no one should trust me for

00:47:18.240 what I say. Like you should everyone should think for themselves and look at the source that I

00:47:22.300 present and think think critically. Right. And you should never put someone on a screen up on some

00:47:27.260 pedestal because even if I like maybe I'm controlled by Qatar, maybe I'm just dumb and get things wrong,

00:47:33.360 everything in between. Right. And so the like the thing about COINTELPRO is it's very effective 0.98

00:47:38.360 because it works. There's no way when you start sewing division. So this started in like the Black 0.95

00:47:43.200 Panther movement and the 60s civil rights era. And when you start sewing division among the ranks and

00:47:48.520 throwing mud on everybody, there's really no answer except to suspect everybody. But in the

00:47:54.080 digital age, you don't really have to trust anybody. You can just trust information. You can

00:47:58.460 just trust yourself. Research. And yeah, just do your own research and and don't really trust anyone.

00:48:03.660 Right. And then people will expose themselves when they start shilling a narrative. You can kind of be

00:48:08.380 like, oh, that's kind of weird. And maybe they're wrong and they'll get corrected and learn. Or maybe

00:48:12.600 they're, you know, James Lindsay. Here's what I would say. I'm kidding, James. I'm kidding. I'm not

00:48:16.660 kidding. But I will say this. I think we should be highly suspicious of people that are pushing

00:48:21.280 the Qatar talking point because we're literally not funded by Qatar and they're all pushing the 0.91

00:48:26.240 Qatar talking point. And so I mark all those people in my mind where I'm like, OK, you are definitely a

00:48:32.380 show because you can't just say something with absolutely zero evidence. You can't just say this

00:48:35.900 person like thinks it's bad to kill gods and children. So they're funded by Qatar. That's that's 0.80

00:48:40.340 completely nutty and crazy. And it's meant to sow distrust. And so I don't trust those people

00:48:44.260 at all. I mean, I've learned a lot from that because I and when I was less careful about the

00:48:49.420 accusations I'd throw around earlier on in my game here and through having those accusations thrown

00:48:54.240 at me and knowing very clearly they're not true, that then I realized like, oh, you should be very

00:48:58.840 careful when you throw accusations at someone without proof because you undermine all your credibility

00:49:03.300 when you do that. And if you don't have proof, you're just going way out on a limb,

00:49:08.280 ready to drown yourself. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Well, I want to get to people's comments. I know

00:49:12.980 that they have a ton of them. First, I do want to throw it to a couple of our sponsors, Tax Network

00:49:16.880 USA. I've told you guys about them. Tax Day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, a real

00:49:20.740 trouble is just beginning. You know that if you missed the April 15th deadline or you still owe back

00:49:24.920 taxes, the IRS is going to ramp up their efforts to enforce. Every day you wait, it only makes things

00:49:29.740 worse with over 5,000 new tax liens filed daily and tools like property seizures, bank levies and

00:49:35.420 wage garnishments. The IRS is applying pressure at levels that we haven't seen in years. There's

00:49:40.080 increased administrative scrutiny, which means collections are moving fast. The good news,

00:49:44.300 there's still time for Tax Network USA to help you. Self-employed or a business owner doesn't

00:49:49.020 matter. Even if your books are a mess, they have got you covered. Tax Network USA specializes in

00:49:53.840 cleaning up financial chaos and getting you back on track fast. Even after the deadline, it's not too

00:49:58.160 late. You can regain control. Your consultation is completely free and acting now would stop penalties,

00:50:02.800 threatening letters, and surprise levies before they escalate. So just call 1-800-958-1000 or visit

00:50:10.260 tnusa.com slash candace. You may have missed April 15th, but you have not run out of options. Let Tax

00:50:16.580 Network USA help before the IRS makes the next move. Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com slash

00:50:23.180 candace. Also American financing. Inflation is eating away at everything, gas, groceries, home repairs. And if

00:50:28.600 you're a homeowner, you probably thought, should I call American Financing to refinance and pay off

00:50:32.700 this credit card debt? Then you probably second-guessed yourself because of that low mortgage

00:50:36.480 rate that you're currently enjoying. Well, that low rate is not saving you if you're drowning in

00:50:41.360 credit card interest at 25% or more. That's the math that no one wants to face, but it is actually

00:50:46.260 costing you thousands. So here's the truth. If you're only making minimum payments, that debt will

00:50:50.340 follow you for years. That's why people are calling American Financing because they're saving

00:50:54.420 customers an average of $800 a month by using their equity to finally break free from credit

00:50:59.420 card debt. You owe it to your family to see what's possible. There's no upfront fees, no pressure.

00:51:03.700 It costs you nothing to find out what you could be saving every month. And if you start today,

00:51:07.840 you may be able to delay two mortgage payments. So call American Financing today, 800-795-1210.

00:51:13.900 Again, that's 800-795-1210 or visit americanfinancing.net slash Owens. That's

00:51:19.060 americanfinancing.net slash Owens. Skylar, do you have that clip, by the way, that I love of Tim Dillon,

00:51:23.820 where there will be signs about guitar? Because that just needs to be played. Yeah, pull that up

00:51:28.280 while we're starting with some of these comments. We've got 40,000 people watching live. Hello,

00:51:33.400 people. We'd love to have you here. Okay, what do I have for comments? First and foremost,

00:51:38.160 I want to remind you guys, the Harvey interview, if you have not yet watched it, we have now set it

00:51:42.500 for pay-per-view on our website. So I know that some people were like, I can't afford to completely sign

00:51:46.820 up for the Candace Owens Club altogether. Well, we decided to set that interview at pay-per-view so you can 1.00

00:51:51.840 now watch that for just $4.99. Go to CandaceOwens.com. It's crazy. It really is crazy. It

00:51:59.240 caused quite the stir. And I was really honored to be able to have that conversation and to see

00:52:03.000 the end of the Me Too movement. Okay, this person here by Janiyah writes, they have been watching

00:52:08.460 Diddy since Jonathan Odie had that interview. Cassie was the conduit to getting him. What does that

00:52:15.960 mean? Oh, that it's actually, it's a, it's a setup that they were ready to cut him loose all along is

00:52:21.540 the theory there. Jonathan Odie was like, it's, Diddy's drawing too much attention. This is going

00:52:27.100 to be a problem. We got to find a way to cut him loose. And then finally they use Cassie to cut him 0.97

00:52:31.160 loose, I think is the theory there. Interesting. And I, you know, I'm up for the idea that, that Diddy was

00:52:36.000 intentionally cut loose. I'm, I'm open to hearing the idea that this is somewhat calculated of trying to

00:52:41.600 get him to go down. But the thing is, is Diddy, if, if what Little Rod says is true and he

00:52:46.560 unbeknownst to the execs at Universal, allegedly was filming them in compromising positions,

00:52:52.760 particularly he implied pretty heavily that he had a Lucy and Grange on tape because he didn't

00:52:56.960 know that Diddy had some cameras in his room when they went in and did whatever they did, allegedly.

00:53:04.400 I just, wouldn't they be somewhat fearful of Diddy? Is this all a show trial? We're just going to

00:53:10.280 like fly him to Cuba to live with Tupac for the rest of his life?

00:53:14.000 Me, I mean, assuming he's alive.

00:53:15.640 Allegedly.

00:53:16.120 My theory, this is just a theory just for funsies, right? Is the Little Rod lawsuit feels different,

00:53:22.960 right? Cassie's lawsuit feels like what this was supposed to be.

00:53:26.840 Interesting.

00:53:27.180 Right? And the whole court trial is all about Cassie's lawsuit, not about Little Rod's. And

00:53:32.380 they're ignoring Little Rod's lawsuit in basically every way they can. I wonder, just asking questions,

00:53:38.260 if Little Rod didn't just accidentally happen to file his lawsuit of his own volition in the way

00:53:44.540 of their plan and mess everything up a little bit.

00:53:47.020 I think he did because he's the one that's in hiding.

00:53:48.900 Exactly.

00:53:49.660 And Cassie's just walking around like good.

00:53:51.800 And Cassie somehow is the woman that's like been this abused and this beaten and then somehow

00:53:55.440 gets the gumption to come out and drop this lawsuit and then they don't settle it immediately.

00:54:00.940 Like, it's just, it's just weird. It's weird. And then the whole trial is based on her lawsuit and

00:54:05.360 everything is based on her lawsuit, even though the other one clearly has more Rico style stuff in

00:54:11.200 it.

00:54:11.880 And they're charging him for Rico. And so it's weird that the Rico investigation doesn't involve

00:54:17.560 any of the most salacious Rico stuff. So I wonder if Little Rod isn't a problem. 1.00

00:54:23.260 I can't believe you're just asking questions.

00:54:25.140 Yeah.

00:54:25.440 That's crazy.

00:54:26.040 Well, it's pretty anti-Semitic to ask questions. 0.53

00:54:27.640 It's pretty anti-Semitic to ask questions as I've learned that on X. 0.81

00:54:29.820 I'm wearing my Epstein shirt.

00:54:30.820 Yeah. That's going to be the next Dandas Cup we sell. It's just going to say just asking questions.

00:54:34.720 So we got to drop that one.

00:54:36.720 Okay. First and foremost, I got to show you this video of Tim Dillon. This is my permanent 2025 mood.

00:54:42.480 There will be signs when and if me and Ian Carroll are funded by Qatar, there will be signs.

00:54:46.780 Take a listen to Tim Dillon explain that.

00:54:51.140 Oh, I had no audio.

00:54:52.100 No worries. We'll try that again in a second.

00:55:00.080 Natalie writes, really enjoyed watching you to walk the dog on your logic regarding Cassie and whether you view her in a more positive light or not.

00:55:07.580 Fun to see the back and forth and opinions and then both agree.

00:55:10.100 Yeah. You know, I just didn't know how I felt about it.

00:55:12.060 And sometimes you kind of have to speak to somebody else, kind of get through it.

00:55:14.960 And I was just thinking about the other victims and how they would feel about her kind of being portrayed as a hero, even though she did some bad stuff.

00:55:21.420 And but I then was like, she's so young and she was on drugs.

00:55:23.540 And yeah, think and have conversations while you still can.

00:55:26.880 I think it's so annoying when people pretend to know everything and they're it's this is the bad guy.

00:55:31.080 This is the good guy. Things tend to be a little bit more complex than that.

00:55:34.780 So I think that's one of the coolest things about this industry, too, is that you're around like people that watch this kind of stuff, people that do this kind of work.

00:55:42.320 Like there are people that are thinking carefully about what's going on.

00:55:44.880 And so it's so fun to have conversations about things you haven't really decided yet, because often you're going to get a really intelligent response from someone like you who's done all this research, but has a different opinion than me.

00:55:54.920 That's why I think that's why podcasts are cool is because you get to learn from a lot of different people.

00:55:59.120 Without being so authoritative, like this is the perspective that you must agree with back at home, because we know everything and we are the experts that need to be trusted.

00:56:06.020 OK, he now says he has the Tim Dillon clip ready. I don't know if I can trust you, Skylar, but go ahead and play it.

00:56:10.320 The press just put out an article how Qatar bought America. If that were true, there would be signs. That's completely untrue. I have not been bought. Does this look like a man who's been bought by Qatar?

00:56:25.320 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I still don't get to see my children.

00:56:28.900 Is it a dance for me?

00:56:30.240 And of course, he cheated on the cup. 1.00

00:56:33.220 Bitch, I'm the villain. 1.00

00:56:35.600 And anyone that has accused me of getting money or becoming some type of Emirati or a Qatari, I'm the same person. 1.00

00:56:45.880 Always been. I happen to like gold. Sue me. Sue me. Literally sue me.

00:56:53.080 I'm just imagining the conversation of like, hey, I want to get this outfit.

00:56:56.640 OK, I want this outfit.

00:56:57.920 Right. I know. Could you imagine working for him?

00:56:59.400 That's so great. I love that.

00:57:00.600 There will be signs. We will have live tigers.

00:57:02.960 And I will just tell you I am funded.

00:57:04.760 Sue me. I like gold. Sue me.

00:57:06.500 I like gold. It is ridiculous. 0.96

00:57:08.540 These people should be laughed at. 0.97

00:57:09.760 And all of these people, of course, Barry Weiss is the one that writes the article. 0.68

00:57:12.400 How Qatar bought America. 0.99

00:57:13.820 No proof needed, guys.

00:57:15.780 Just no proof. Everyone's funded by Qatar. 0.50

00:57:17.980 That disagrees with me.

00:57:19.160 OK, Abigail Boer writes, Theo Vaughn started out knowing nothing, listened to both sides and made a choice.

00:57:24.540 I started saying I don't know enough to have an opinion.

00:57:27.860 Once you do have enough info, the option is clear.

00:57:30.420 The intent was always genocide.

00:57:32.640 Yeah. The intent was always genocide.

00:57:35.400 Yeah. Hence why they propped up Hamas. 0.99

00:57:37.820 Hence why they pulled forces off the border beforehand.

00:57:41.040 Hence why they ignored the reports that said that Hamas was preparing for a major offensive.

00:57:45.100 It all points to one thing.

00:57:46.980 And look, now they're trying because they've lost the thread here in America in terms of Israel support.

00:57:51.840 And I think that we have that Glenn Greenwald tweet, which he retweeted somebody speaking about that drop in Israeli support for Israel in America.

00:57:59.340 That's why they are now pushing speech laws.

00:58:01.300 They're trying to manufacture support, which is insane.

00:58:04.500 And of course, that's going to backfire.

00:58:06.500 Glenn Greenwald tweeted, the collapse in support for Israel among Americans is substantial and steep.

00:58:11.440 50 percent of Republicans under 50 have an unfavorable view of Israel and 53 percent of Americans overall.

00:58:18.860 The only pro-Israel group left is older Republicans.

00:58:21.640 It's happening globally and it won't be repaired.

00:58:23.720 And what are they doing trying to repair it?

00:58:25.440 Trying to, what, mine these two diplomats being shot and demanding more censorship on YouTube?

00:58:34.060 They're blaming Hassan Piker, I think.

00:58:36.720 Yeah, I heard that.

00:58:37.640 Do you have the clip, Skylar?

00:58:38.760 Did you pull, by the way, the ADL instantly jumps on this?

00:58:41.520 Dangerous gamer.

00:58:42.340 Yeah, this dangerous gamer is somehow to blame.

00:58:44.760 He wasn't there.

00:58:45.720 You do have it?

00:58:47.860 Let's play that clip of what this is, the CEO of the ADL, head of the ADL.

00:58:52.140 Yeah, Jonathan Greenwald.

00:58:53.020 Whatever. 0.96

00:58:53.580 He's very scummy. 0.97

00:58:54.740 Take a listen. 0.98

00:58:55.220 Take a listen.

00:59:06.720 People who spout prejudice should not be platformed.

00:59:31.920 It's unbelievable.

00:59:32.940 Wow.

00:59:33.540 Yeah.

00:59:33.800 Geez.

00:59:34.360 The self-awareness on that one is.

00:59:35.840 But this is, they're desperate.

00:59:37.260 And don't forget, he was caught on the hot mic demanding that the TikTok, TikTokers, we

00:59:41.680 have a generational problem.

00:59:42.920 We've got to get TikTok under control.

00:59:44.180 And they certainly did get TikTok under control.

00:59:46.160 You cannot speak badly about the Israeli government on TikTok.

00:59:49.680 And now here we are.

00:59:50.120 And now here we are.

00:59:51.300 And so he's basically saying we need even more censorship.

00:59:53.380 And he thinks that that's going to work.

00:59:54.780 The youth is going to follow them.

00:59:56.540 And that's why I say it's incumbent upon people to make sure your children, like you guys,

01:00:00.680 now we've got the youth generation telling the truth and being aware of this.

01:00:03.640 Make sure your children, when they come up, that they are aware of this, that how manipulated,

01:00:08.180 how manipulated the information war is, that they're aware of the ADL saying we have to

01:00:12.220 get control of the internet.

01:00:13.200 I've noticed changes on X ever since Elon paid a visit to Poland.

01:00:17.200 And suddenly X is, there's so many obvious bot accounts that we were speaking about earlier.

01:00:22.200 I'm just very tired of this.

01:00:24.920 And I don't think this is how they're going to win.

01:00:26.860 I think we have God on our side.

01:00:28.360 We have heart on our side.

01:00:29.680 And we have truth on our side.

01:00:31.040 And I don't see how lies, manipulation, and calls for censorship can possibly win in the end.

01:00:35.760 No.

01:00:35.960 In the open internet, like, this is the scary dynamic, is that in the open internet, censorship

01:00:42.480 just exposes itself.

01:00:44.100 And there's no censorship response that is going to work.

01:00:49.060 And I think they're learning that in real time.

01:00:50.880 And I sort of get worried because you have to go full censorship.

01:00:55.320 You have to shut things down.

01:00:56.560 You have to do something way more extreme to get censorship to work or have some sort of

01:01:01.220 serious calamity, like a large attack or a large tragedy.

01:01:05.460 Like, October 7th brought a lot of people together all at once around a lot of, I mean,

01:01:09.860 around a tragedy, but also a tragedy dressed up in other lies.

01:01:12.920 And so I worry that that is starting to be the only avenue available to, like, the Bibi 1.00

01:01:18.920 Netanyahu camp in this world in order to keep this charade going.

01:01:21.840 They want, like, a big event because they know when there's chaos and there's emotion,

01:01:26.160 you can seize a lot of power.

01:01:27.360 And I think that that's what they need because when people don't have that and they're able

01:01:30.360 to think rationally, it's very clear that something very wrong is happening in Gaza.

01:01:34.500 Skylar, what did you say to me in my ear?

01:01:37.920 Oh, guys, we are on a baby alert here.

01:01:40.120 So we're going to have to wrap the show because I have got to go feed my son.

01:01:44.840 And so if you want to take this away, Ian, and you can wrap the show on this.

01:01:48.760 Actually, this is a perfect last comment.

01:01:50.600 It's perfect.

01:01:51.320 Divine Counsel writes, congrats to you and your family, Miss Candice.

01:01:53.760 Hey, if you want to follow a lead to solid proof about the hip hop drug trafficking theory,

01:01:57.920 look into Juice WRLD's death.

01:01:59.920 Love you.

01:02:00.620 Praying inspired by you.

01:02:02.460 Ian, any last thoughts before I go feed the infant?

01:02:05.160 No, I'm going to go look into Juice WRLD's death.

01:02:06.960 Okay.

01:02:07.360 Solid comment.

01:02:07.940 You guys, thank you so much for joining.

01:02:10.200 I will be back on maternity leave for the next two weeks.

01:02:12.200 Ian will continue taking over the show.

01:02:13.340 I hope we've cleared up everything regarding Kabbalah Gates and that he's been doing a tremendous

01:02:18.060 job.

01:02:18.360 You guys have absolutely loved him.

01:02:19.480 So we're really kind of responding to like bots and people who maybe got mixed up and thought

01:02:23.300 there was something legit there.

01:02:24.480 But really appreciate you guys allowing me to enjoy this time with my family.

01:02:27.920 I'll see you in two weeks.

01:02:28.940 I'll see you in two weeks.

Candace Owens - May 22, 2025

Theo Von Speaks Out ｜ Big Names Missing In The Diddy Trial ｜ Candace Ep 188

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript