Candace Owens - This Is Why I Choose Not To Vaccinate My Kids ｜ Candace Ep 82

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00:00:15.420 All right, guys, so a couple of weeks ago, I got into a lot of trouble because, well, I'm always kind of in trouble.

00:00:19.780 But this time, the reason I was in trouble was because I said that I have left the Church of Science.

00:00:25.160 What did I mean by that?

00:00:26.440 What do you mean you don't trust the science or trust the experts and people were coming undone and referring to me as a flat earther?

00:00:32.920 The reality is a lot of things have happened over the last few years that have clarified my perspectives.

00:00:37.980 And my perspective today is that science has very much become a faith.

00:00:41.840 You have a bunch of people who have sort of ordained themselves ministers and priests, and they tell you not to think at all and just simply follow their instructions.

00:00:51.240 And there's no greater example of that and how many times that they have been wrong and how they are able to inspire mass hysteria than COVID.

00:01:01.220 I always say, let's not forget what happened during COVID.

00:01:04.480 It should really wake you up.

00:01:05.920 In many ways, science has also become a psychology.

00:01:09.120 And so I'm very pleased to introduce you to my next guest.

00:01:12.180 He has written a book entitled The Diary of a Psychosis, How Public Health Disgraced Itself During the COVID Mania.

00:01:19.400 And also another book, which just seems really on par with me.

00:01:23.160 It's entitled The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History.

00:01:27.000 Everything, well, almost everything you know about American history is wrong.

00:01:31.540 It's definitely something we've been hitting at a lot on this show.

00:01:35.280 Tom Woods, welcome to Candace.

00:01:37.800 Thank you, Candace.

00:01:38.540 It's good to have you here.

00:01:39.420 Thank you.

00:01:40.000 I mean, with titles like these, you can't be adored by the media.

00:01:43.620 No, I'm not.

00:01:44.540 You're not too adored by the media.

00:01:46.000 Not looking to be.

00:01:46.700 So the most recent one you published is this one, The Diary of a Psychosis.

00:01:50.600 Tell me what this book is about and what led you to wanting to publish it.

00:01:55.960 Well, you and I both lived through what happened in 2020.

00:01:59.820 And as it was happening, I wanted to know, are there any other ways of looking at this other than extreme panic?

00:02:05.500 I was looking for other voices.

00:02:07.720 And they were hard to find, but eventually I did find them.

00:02:10.360 Because I didn't want to just give up my life for nothing.

00:02:13.400 I wanted to be told that we were going to accomplish something by doing this.

00:02:18.880 I didn't want to just throw my life away for nothing.

00:02:22.900 And yet I was astonished at how many people who were willing to do that, who wouldn't even bother to look up the numbers.

00:02:28.580 Like, for example, after a few months of this, are we seeing any better results in places that are more psychotic than others?

00:02:34.720 No one even seemed interested.

00:02:36.960 It was bizarre.

00:02:38.480 So I started writing.

00:02:39.680 I have an email newsletter that a lot of people subscribe to.

00:02:41.760 I started writing about this every day.

00:02:43.080 And I would send out charts.

00:02:44.080 And I'd say, let's compare this place and this place.

00:02:46.460 And it doesn't make any sense.

00:02:47.600 And you find that the top 25 craziest lockdown states, you plot them against the bottom 25, the most lenient states.

00:02:56.820 The lines are identical.

00:02:59.260 Identical.

00:02:59.940 So are we doing all this for nothing?

00:03:01.620 I want to answer that question.

00:03:02.920 Are we doing all this for nothing?

00:03:04.940 And I thought, surely the world will welcome research like this.

00:03:08.980 It turns out, no.

00:03:11.560 I was so astonished.

00:03:13.900 And even though I had maybe a lower estimate of mankind than a lot of people do, it went way low after this.

00:03:20.720 To see how many people were forming their opinions on the basis of tribal allegiance.

00:03:25.680 You know, my favorite actors are all telling me to stay home and stay safe, so I guess I have to do it.

00:03:29.960 But I don't know what the source of it is, but there is definitely a drive to conform.

00:03:37.880 And it's like that feeling you had in high school that a lot of the popular kids had where I would die a thousand deaths before, say, anything that would get me out of the popular group.

00:03:48.420 I never had to worry about that.

00:03:49.580 I was the biggest nerd in high school.

00:03:51.220 I was never tempted that way.

00:03:52.940 I was never going to be in the popular group.

00:03:54.320 So I've always kind of been the guy who wants to get the whole story.

00:03:58.560 And so the reason it's called Diary of a Psychosis is that I was writing about this day by day, and I was observing all the little things.

00:04:08.180 We all know all the big things, but I remember all the little bits of craziness that were going on day by day.

00:04:14.040 And I had people writing to me saying, you are keeping me from winding up in a rubber room, because I thought I was the only one.

00:04:21.320 All my friends, they don't want to get together.

00:04:23.740 They want to sit 100 yards apart.

00:04:25.940 I don't know what's going on here.

00:04:27.860 And so I just started writing what I was finding.

00:04:31.240 And it turns out that that story is like the exact opposite of what we're getting on TV, like the exact opposite.

00:04:38.580 Well, it's interesting because I was one of these people that was blessed.

00:04:42.120 I was anti-vax before COVID took place, and I had done all of my research, and I had understood what big pharma was because I was, and I do say blessed, by being injured by a vaccine when I was 20 years old.

00:04:53.680 The Gardasil vaccine, a lot of women were injured by that vaccine.

00:04:56.660 And it was one of these things where I had this mini seizure on the doctor's floor, and then he told me to suspend the series because I think it's about three shots you have to get.

00:05:03.940 And afterwards, I just remember thinking, why did I get this shot?

00:05:08.640 I know nothing about this shot.

00:05:09.600 I'm just listening to this guy.

00:05:10.640 When I did my research, I was stunned at how they had manipulated the data, how they had lied about the risk, how they just sort of used this campaign, this fear campaign, to say to women, like, you're going to get, this will stop you from getting cancer, cervical cancer, or ovarian cancer.

00:05:24.320 I can't remember which one it is.

00:05:25.480 And when I actually clawed back all that research and did the numbers, I realized, how could they do this?

00:05:31.040 This is so evil.

00:05:32.280 How could they lie like this?

00:05:33.520 And so that kind of began my journey, and I began looking into each and every single vaccine and made a decision for myself not to vaccinate my children.

00:05:39.900 I'm not as an anti-vaxxer, it's totally fine.

00:05:41.560 But I'm grateful for it because I went into COVID because of that, eyes wide open.

00:05:45.660 Like, there was no way after you have a mini seizure and in a doctor's form when you're 20 years old that you are ever going to allow a fear campaign to manipulate you into putting something into your body.

00:05:55.180 But the reality is that the entire world now is run by fear campaigns.

00:05:59.520 And this gets even into, which I love because we were just talking about this off camera, you know, you're talking about Ron Paul, who actually endorsed this book, which is about the best endorsement you could have.

00:06:09.140 For me, it would be Thomas Massey or Ron Paul, and he endorsed this book.

00:06:12.520 But when you look through the lens even of American history, how they are able to modify human behavior, get so many people to acquiesce to government incentives to give up their freedoms.

00:06:23.120 Sometimes it's always fear as the ingredient to get us to accept whatever, even if it's insane.

00:06:30.880 And it's usually, I mean, I also wrote a book about the 2008 financial crisis.

00:06:35.640 And when that broke out, it was, we don't have time to talk to you about this.

00:06:39.520 We just have to shovel all this money to all these institutions so all these bigwigs can get their bonuses.

00:06:44.920 And I'm sorry we don't have time to talk about it.

00:06:46.720 The same thing with COVID.

00:06:47.640 We just don't have time.

00:06:48.880 You know, we'd love to hear all your crazy opinions, but we just don't have time. 0.98

00:06:51.920 The experts need to run things, and you need to shut up. 0.93

00:06:54.320 So it's a pattern.

00:06:56.380 And I think part of the reason people are inclined to just go along, I think partly, is that I think the education system encourages following the leader and repeating on the test what you were told in the classroom.

00:07:10.000 So that's part of it.

00:07:10.800 But also what happens in American history is we have some big crisis, like the Great Depression or like COVID or whatever else.

00:07:18.020 And there's an official like regime-approved version of what happened.

00:07:23.860 And then there's everybody else trying to say, wait a minute, there's another way of thinking about this.

00:07:28.020 The official regime-approved version winds up in the history textbooks every single time.

00:07:32.580 So the Great Depression was caused by underconsumption or greed or like greed caused the Great Depression?

00:07:40.180 Greed caused that level of fall in production because of greed.

00:07:43.800 What are you talking about?

00:07:44.920 Greed exists.

00:07:46.380 Greed's around all the time.

00:07:47.340 How's that your explanation?

00:07:48.620 But that goes in the textbooks.

00:07:50.480 So this is why it's four years after COVID, I guess four and a half now.

00:07:57.660 There's a reason we still need to keep talking about it.

00:08:00.020 Because if we don't, then we're going to get another one of these conventional wisdom stories that just ossifies into the permanent version, which is wonderful, selfless public servants like Anthony Fauci tried their best to make us healthy. 0.99

00:08:13.660 But we stupid heads who hate science refuse to go along. 0.98

00:08:17.160 That is going to be, in that textbook, absolute 100% guarantee. 1.00

00:08:21.680 So this is why when people say, you know, you just have to move on, time to move on.

00:08:26.040 You know, I don't think Thomas Jefferson ever said, if the government really screws you, you should probably just move on.

00:08:31.980 I think if we just move on, then this takes its place alongside the Great Depression, the New Deal, 9-11, the 2008 crisis, COVID, Ukraine, as all having basically cartoon versions winding up in the history books.

00:08:50.400 It's worse than cartoons.

00:08:51.280 I mean, literally, I just love this.

00:08:53.300 Everything, well, almost everything you know about American history is wrong.

00:08:55.980 I fell down this rabbit hole, so to speak, over the last couple of years, and it's so jarring, and it's so shocking, and it takes such a tremendous amount of humility to admit that you know nothing.

00:09:05.200 And I have such a thirst for knowledge now, and I do recognize, and there were always the signs there, that what we've actually implemented here in America is not unlike, it's actually an exact replica of, like, Soviet education.

00:09:16.900 It's like Stalin youth, essentially.

00:09:19.760 And I learned about that because I was reading a Thomas Sow book, Inside the American Education System.

00:09:24.400 Oh, I read that one.

00:09:25.160 Great book, and he actually talks about how they're able to, even when there's that one child that stands up, and he was speaking about sex education in particular, and how they start by trying to isolate the child, and making them think that their parents are backwards, and their parents don't know anything, and like, you're part of this new generation, and this thing, and everybody's having sex. 0.53

00:09:44.500 And he says in that book, and the reality was, before the 70s, before it was, I believe, Jimmy Carter, who signed off in the Department of Education, before the implementation of the Department of Education, the majority of high schoolers were graduating with their virginity intact.

00:09:59.960 And, but then they started this sort of planned parenthood-funded effort in the classroom to convince children otherwise, and they isolate that child.

00:10:08.520 And they, if there's that one kid that stands up and says, like, no, like, I, my mom says I should keep my virginity, they allow the entire class to participate.

00:10:17.780 And he cites examples to participate in making this child feel humiliated.

00:10:22.000 So this goes back to exactly what we're talking about with COVID, where people don't want to feel isolated, they don't want to feel humiliated, and they also don't want to admit that it's plausible that they're wrong.

00:10:34.260 So they just do the thing.

00:10:36.140 They just agree with the thing.

00:10:38.000 And, I mean, that's, that to me is just, it's so sad that people don't have the courage to stand by what is so, to me, obviously and morally wrong.

00:10:46.200 Like, you're masking children, you know what I mean?

00:10:48.860 Like, take a stance for something, and they don't.

00:10:52.360 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:52.980 Well, the, the stuff about the schools, that is like institutionalized bullying.

00:10:58.040 And yet, you walk into a school today, and they'll have a poster on the wall that says, we're against bullying.

00:11:03.220 And their, their anti-bullying policy consists of that poster.

00:11:06.560 That, that, that's about it.

00:11:07.860 But then in terms of what, what you're talking about here, I, I should say something about your, I, I absolutely agree with you about science becoming a religion.

00:11:15.120 And, and it's not my religion, and I'm standing up against it.

00:11:17.680 That doesn't mean I don't believe in the scientific method.

00:11:20.140 It doesn't, it doesn't mean I don't accept scientific conclusions.

00:11:23.440 But it does mean we have a perverse deformation of actual science.

00:11:29.840 And we're, like, last year we had more retracted papers in medicine than at any time ever.

00:11:36.020 And you would think, as time goes on, wouldn't you think we would get better and better, and we'd have more knowledge, and there'd be fewer retracted papers?

00:11:42.440 Like, something's going wrong.

00:11:43.760 But also, scientism, which is what we're opposed to, more or less seems to say that the only stuff I'm going to believe is, is information that comes through a test tube.

00:11:55.920 Then I'll believe it.

00:11:57.100 But so much of what these people believe can't possibly come out of a test tube.

00:12:00.740 Like, these people say, I believe in human equality.

00:12:03.620 Well, there is nothing that's going to come directly from observation or a test tube that's going to support that, because people are tall or short or smart or dumb or talented or untalented.

00:12:15.500 All we have are differences.

00:12:17.660 But we believe in equality.

00:12:19.140 Why?

00:12:19.320 Because that's a philosophical presupposition.

00:12:21.660 That's a philosophical idea that's very defensible, that people should be treated equally before the law.

00:12:26.940 That's very, very defensible.

00:12:28.060 But that doesn't come out of a test tube.

00:12:29.560 There are a lot of things you believe in deeply that do not come out of a test tube.

00:12:32.220 And then also, if you thought that the extreme measures they took during COVID were over the top and wrong, they would say, well, the scientists are telling us we need to do it.

00:12:43.860 Now, number one, not all the scientists were saying that.

00:12:46.260 But number two, there's no class Anthony Fauci took in school that told him, if something like COVID is circulating, here's how you balance out the protecting people's health consideration versus destroying society through lockdowns.

00:13:02.820 Here's how you balance that out.

00:13:03.820 He never took a class on that.

00:13:05.540 He's just a hack like you and me when it comes to stuff like this.

00:13:08.200 What does he know about that?

00:13:09.180 But because he's a scientist and because everyone is infected with scientism, they attribute to him these supernatural abilities that he most certainly does not possess.

00:13:19.300 I would like you to speak more at length about scientism because I recently read C.S. Lewis's The Abolition of Man.

00:13:25.720 And I think it's a really important point to hit upon in case people are not familiar what you are differentiating here between scientism and science.

00:13:32.900 Well, when we say science, especially since, let's say, the so-called scientific revolution.

00:13:38.740 But we also had science.

00:13:40.980 I mean, Roger Bacon, there were people in the high Middle Ages who were practicing science.

00:13:45.380 And by the way, that's a whole other story, is the normal portrayal of the progress of Western history is that we had Greece and Rome, then nothing.

00:13:54.040 No, the lie of the Dark Ages.

00:13:56.740 Yeah, it's nonsense.

00:13:58.040 Nothing happened.

00:13:58.520 And then, you know, and then the railroads or something.

00:14:01.560 You know, like, what?

00:14:02.920 So that's another matter.

00:14:04.800 I wrote a book on that.

00:14:05.840 But it's one thing when we recognize that science can answer some questions.

00:14:12.200 We gather data.

00:14:13.660 We form hypotheses.

00:14:14.980 We test the hypotheses.

00:14:16.480 And we keep an open mind.

00:14:18.120 Like, we don't say, you're going to get funded and your paper published if it seems to advance the current consensus.

00:14:27.520 That is a deformation of science.

00:14:30.200 And that is exactly what we've had.

00:14:32.020 And so you say, well, this guy can't even get his paper published.

00:14:35.620 He must not be any good.

00:14:37.080 That's not why.

00:14:38.400 It's that they've decided that this is the truth.

00:14:41.980 And so Dr. Marty McCary has a brand new book out called Blind Spots, in which he just runs through all these areas where the consensus was so wrong, but good luck trying to fight against it.

00:14:53.300 Now, what is that?

00:14:54.100 That is a religion in the worst possible sense of the word.

00:14:58.100 I mean, the Catholic religion has St. Thomas Aquinas in it, and he asks about 2,000 questions in his Summa Theologiae.

00:15:06.760 The medieval universities were based around asking questions and debating them.

00:15:11.300 Now, you couldn't graduate unless you had held a disputation on some disputed topic.

00:15:17.140 Whereas today, when we like to congratulate ourselves on how much more open-minded we are than they used to be, it's just the opposite.

00:15:24.080 They come after you.

00:15:25.040 One quick little example.

00:15:27.140 You notice that in America, we have so many people with peanut allergies.

00:15:31.180 And it seems to be like just an American thing.

00:15:33.600 Like, why don't they have peanut allergies in Zimbabwe?

00:15:36.260 You know, like, why do we have them here?

00:15:37.880 And the consensus was we keep kids from having peanuts or peanut products for the first few years of their lives to prevent them from getting peanut allergies.

00:15:46.680 It turns out that causes the peanut allergies.

00:15:49.420 But yet, American researchers were the ones telling various groups trying to end hunger, don't use peanuts, even though they're easy to transport, they're protein-rich, they don't have to be refrigerated.

00:16:01.300 They're very easy to use for this purpose.

00:16:03.200 But American researchers say, no, no, no, no, because you're going to encourage peanut allergies.

00:16:06.900 The opposite encourages peanut allergies.

00:16:09.480 And this is our – we have all these faulty cases of consensus, and no one dares say anything because they don't want to be on the outs.

00:16:17.180 I want to be one of the cool people.

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00:17:03.040 And some of it is really just common sense.

00:17:05.020 You know, like when I embarked on creating a series, I actually have an entire series called A Shot in the Dark where I speak about vaccines to parents.

00:17:10.420 And I just go through the history that they are not allowed access to.

00:17:13.400 I mean, it's crazy how much money I had to spend to access these original studies.

00:17:17.600 Like, you have to get all these shots for your kids, but we can't let you read the studies unless you pay $150 to see where the genesis of this.

00:17:23.540 It's nuts.

00:17:24.460 And the more that I got into it and I realized they've been controlling the diagnostic conditions, they have been manipulating numbers.

00:17:31.260 And when I just show parents these charts, like there is this idea talking about how powerful of a tool fear is.

00:17:37.000 My favorite one is tetanus.

00:17:38.960 Parents know nothing.

00:17:39.820 My husband and I got together.

00:17:40.580 I'm like, we're not vaccinating our kids.

00:17:41.860 And he's like, what?

00:17:42.780 Well, we have to do tetanus, of course.

00:17:44.520 Polio and tetanus are the ones that there's like this ingrained fear.

00:17:47.080 And so I said to my husband, I say to people all the time, how many people do you think during its peak incidence, these, by the way, are statistics from the AMA, the American Medical Association.

00:17:56.740 I'm not finding this stuff on like a Reddit feed.

00:17:58.420 I only use approved government sources.

00:18:01.040 And I say, how many people do you think during its peak incidence in America before the introduction of the vaccine were getting tetanus, like just were being diagnosed with tetanus?

00:18:11.620 And I'll tell them, I'm like, the population was around, you know, 129 million in America.

00:18:17.080 At the time, everyone will say 100,000, maybe 300,000.

00:18:20.960 The answer is 550, right?

00:18:23.220 So it's little things like this that people just don't know, right?

00:18:25.920 They just know tetanus, that your kids are getting 17 shots.

00:18:28.420 I'm like, 550 people in total got tetanus before they introduced the vaccine.

00:18:34.680 And so it's so important for people to just have access to this information so that they can not, maybe you still decide that you want your child to get the tetanus vaccine.

00:18:42.440 I don't care.

00:18:42.940 I don't ever push upon a parent what they should do.

00:18:45.260 But I want you to no longer, for us to no longer be people that are conditioned by fear and a lack of knowledge.

00:18:50.640 And going back to what you were saying about this, which my thesis now is that we're actually in the Dark Ages.

00:18:56.800 I think that the Dark Ages were an age of remarkable enlightenment.

00:18:59.300 And then they called the enlightenment actually when they began, in my view, a bunch of Freemasons deciding to like darken mankind. 0.91

00:19:05.660 And now people don't have access to information and they're just sort of told what to do. 0.98

00:19:09.620 And I think people are remarkably dumber than they were. 0.80

00:19:12.760 But, yeah, that's my current operating thesis on what's happening right now. 0.99

00:19:16.640 But yet if you would ask people back then, they wouldn't have bragged that they were smart.

00:19:20.420 Today they brag that they're smart.

00:19:22.120 You know, there was a study done, I think it was in that, Thomas Sowell talks about it in that education book, where they surveyed Korean students and American students.

00:19:29.520 And they asked, do you think you're good at math?

00:19:32.040 Now, American students are way worse, but they think they're good. 1.00

00:19:35.640 The Korean students are way better and they think they're not so good.

00:19:38.520 Oh, I wish we had the exact statistic because it's a stunning statistic.

00:19:41.040 Yeah, it is.

00:19:41.700 It is.

00:19:41.920 We were like 23 percentile and they're like 84 percent.

00:19:45.300 And it was like incredible.

00:19:46.500 They're like the best in the world.

00:19:47.840 Right.

00:19:48.160 And like 23 percent of them were like, maybe we're kind of good.

00:19:52.480 Like those tetanus numbers.

00:19:53.520 Americans were like, we're amazing at math.

00:19:56.360 I know, I know.

00:19:57.080 They got the we're number one, you know, the foam finger in the air.

00:20:01.180 So Gloria Steinem is, you know, the feminist leader. 1.00

00:20:06.100 She is of the opinion that women are being held to an unreasonable standard of beauty and that that is that was causing a lot of people to come to get anorexia, to come down with anorexia and to present with anorexia.

00:20:19.640 And so she was saying that 150,000 women a year were dying from this. 0.99

00:20:25.440 And it turns out the answer, the real number was 100.

00:20:28.720 Now, I don't mean 100,000, I mean 100.

00:20:31.240 But you hear 150,000, you think, wow, we have to take action.

00:20:34.740 And that is that is a, quote unquote, progressive pattern.

00:20:38.460 They make up a number like Mitch Snyder.

00:20:40.920 Now, homelessness is is does seem to be a pretty big problem these days in the cities.

00:20:45.580 But in the 80s, when everybody said there were three million homeless, that didn't come from somebody walking around with a clipboard and keeping an eye on things.

00:20:52.720 That was Mitch Snyder, homeless advocate, who said, well, I had to get people's attention.

00:20:57.580 So he made up the three million.

00:20:59.040 So this just happens over and over and over again.

00:21:01.140 And then in terms of the vaccine.

00:21:02.980 So now I'm I'll just tell you, I'm over 50 at this point.

00:21:06.480 And when you're a man and you're 50, one of the things they tell you when you go see the doctor is, hey, you are eligible now for the shingles vaccine.

00:21:15.820 You should consider getting the shingles vaccine.

00:21:17.740 Now, I'm going to be honest enough with you, Candice, to say that if this had been five years ago, I would have rolled up my sleeve and said, yeah, go ahead.

00:21:23.300 I mean, like, whatever.

00:21:23.780 But now I feel like I can't trust anything these SOPs tell me.

00:21:27.940 So I'm listening to the guy say to me, it's 87 percent effective against shingles.

00:21:32.600 And I thought now Dave Smith told this story last time he was on Joe Rogan.

00:21:35.820 He told my shingles vaccine story.

00:21:38.120 I'm sitting there thinking when you say to me that it's 87 percent effective, is this like the covid vaccine being 100 percent effective?

00:21:45.040 It's because they literally said it's 100 percent effective.

00:21:47.880 And when you go back and look at it, you think this can't be.

00:21:50.540 But when you go back and look at it, it's that they had a vaccine group and a control group and the vaccine group had like one infection and the control had two.

00:21:59.120 And since two is 100 percent more than one, the covid vaccine is 100 percent effective.

00:22:03.760 Now, we all knew that 100 percent effective.

00:22:06.200 The average person will hear that and think that means nothing can happen to me.

00:22:09.920 It's 100 percent effective.

00:22:11.200 They must have known that's how people would interpret that.

00:22:13.980 So I'm thinking, geez, the shingles vaccine sounds pretty terrible compared to 100 percent that I might have had.

00:22:19.960 So now I haven't gotten it.

00:22:21.780 It's not because I want to get shingles.

00:22:23.900 It's that now I've been I feel like I've been awakened to something.

00:22:28.140 I mean, I was you know, I wrote the Politically Incorrect Guide to American History.

00:22:30.800 I'm very skeptical of official narratives.

00:22:32.720 But when it came to health, again, I'll be honest with you, I used to think that the people in our ranks who were complaining about their doctor or the medical system, I would say, come on.

00:22:42.380 I mean, look at the life expectancy figures going up, which is no longer true.

00:22:46.740 You know, what are you cranks complaining about? 1.00

00:22:48.800 And I'm thinking, oh, my gosh, what an idiot. 1.00

00:22:50.880 Oh, it's shocking. 1.00

00:22:51.620 The more you get into it.

00:22:52.500 And like I said, I I agree that it's crazy to have your base assumption be that I'm being lied to by the entire medical establishment.

00:23:01.640 Like I said, I was blessed by being injured.

00:23:03.380 Right.

00:23:03.760 That is what sent me down that rabbit hole and trying to understand what happened to me and why I had just subjected myself to this.

00:23:09.340 And then I was shocked and I kept looking and it took me years.

00:23:12.060 And so, you know, God gives you certain things to go through for a reason.

00:23:14.920 And so I was just as soon as COVID happened, I was like, no, this is what they do.

00:23:17.980 They've done this forever with vaccines.

00:23:19.260 They always need to have an emergency and then they get everybody to roll up their sleeves.

00:23:22.420 And the next thing you know, it's on the list and every kid's got to get it to go to to university and to get into kindergarten nowadays.

00:23:29.160 And and that that should really be your first indication that something's wrong that they're, you know, having to force it upon children.

00:23:34.800 Like, you know, if it was really lifesaving, would you have to force that people would be lining up in the streets for it?

00:23:38.340 Like, please save my life.

00:23:39.680 Like, you know, if there was no water, you wouldn't have to say in order, you know, for you to go to school, you're gonna have to drink water.

00:23:45.740 We would be like, please just give up.

00:23:47.560 Please give us the water we want to live.

00:23:49.460 And so there are so many common sense aspects to it.

00:23:52.080 But I did have to think about this because I had such a reverence instilled in me for doctors and wanting to believe in the Hippocratic oath, wanting to believe that they have our best interests at heart.

00:24:03.440 And I realized all of these people are just human.

00:24:06.460 And so now I just need to know who everyone was in high school.

00:24:08.800 Right. Yeah.

00:24:09.640 Would this person have stood up if a teacher said to do something crazy and said, no, that sounds crazy.

00:24:14.540 The reality is most people just go along and do what they have to do and keep their heads down.

00:24:18.960 And especially doctors.

00:24:20.080 They're in school for a very long time.

00:24:22.060 And my friend, who is a doctor, told me, he said, when we learn about vaccines, we're not learning about the history.

00:24:26.520 It's this is what you give this person at six months.

00:24:28.640 This is what you give.

00:24:29.260 He's like, and that's why doctors get so offended when you question them, because they realize their own ignorance when you're like, but wait a minute.

00:24:36.140 Actually, how many people were dying of tetanus in 1947?

00:24:39.420 They don't want to go down that route because they're not trying to harm you.

00:24:43.520 But and they're not bad people.

00:24:45.420 They're just human.

00:24:46.760 And I think it's the best way to look at it.

00:24:47.820 That's the thing is that this is another thing that scientism has fed into is that we attribute to these people superhuman characteristics.

00:24:56.000 They have the same moral foibles that you and I have, and they're subject to the same kinds of influences that you and I might be.

00:25:02.240 So, unfortunately, I know that the media discourages you from, quote, doing your own research.

00:25:07.860 But in this day and age, finding somebody who really is knowledgeable about medicine is is is a rare thing and very important.

00:25:16.220 And now on the vaccine question, you notice that talking about children, if if it really were something those kids needed.

00:25:23.760 And. L.A. schools would would have imposed it, New York schools would have imposed it, even the left liberal parents who, you know, on the surface, they're going to do whatever the health authorities recommend.

00:25:36.180 They knew the kids don't need this and they knew it was bad.

00:25:39.580 So the the polls were all showing like not not even a quarter of the parents wanted the kids getting it.

00:25:44.500 So that so they figured that out.

00:25:45.740 So they could not impose that.

00:25:47.160 And so I do think it's important because it can be so discouraging.

00:25:51.080 You feel like I'm up against every institution in America.

00:25:53.960 I need some kind of white pill here.

00:25:56.480 And I would just remind everybody that they wanted those vaccine passports everywhere and permanently. 0.97

00:26:03.640 And they didn't get that.

00:26:05.540 And they didn't get it because the minority of us just wouldn't go along.

00:26:09.040 And if you're a restaurant, you're already operating on razor thin margins.

00:26:13.320 If you cut 30 percent of your clientele out, forget it, forget it.

00:26:16.960 So those things didn't go anywhere.

00:26:18.680 But isn't it interesting, you know, that Dr.

00:26:20.120 Jay Varma from New York who was just exposed for having had, let's say, immoral parties during covid at the same time, he was sitting next to the New York mayor every weekday giving his briefing.

00:26:31.920 He was out doing unbelievable, unbelievable things.

00:26:36.900 He admitted on camera, on a hidden camera, that what we do is we don't literally drag you into the doctor's office, grab your arm and stick the needle in.

00:26:48.820 We just make your life really difficult if you don't.

00:26:52.780 And he actually.

00:26:53.420 So up to that point, I found in Diary of Psychosis, I quote some Canadian officials who came out and said that in America, they kept that part quiet.

00:27:01.340 They were saying, no, the vaccine mandate is to keep you all safe, you know, because you don't want to go to a restaurant, get covid.

00:27:07.720 But he admitted that's not the reason that's not there.

00:27:10.560 And and in fact, we can see if you look at L.A.

00:27:13.620 County versus Orange County, Orange County did not have a vaccine mandate.

00:27:16.860 L.A.

00:27:17.140 County did.

00:27:17.800 You plot their numbers against each other.

00:27:20.060 L.A.

00:27:20.340 County actually did slightly worse.

00:27:22.180 So there's no it didn't.

00:27:23.400 They all knew that wasn't going to do anything.

00:27:24.720 It was just to make you so miserable that you would finally say, all right, you got me.

00:27:31.500 I'll do it.

00:27:31.940 Right.

00:27:32.160 You'll lose your job.

00:27:33.200 Yeah.

00:27:33.360 You'll lose your job.

00:27:34.360 Yeah.

00:27:34.560 And you'll lose your job.

00:27:36.180 So that was something that that is really interesting for me because I felt so freed by learning the true dark history of psychology.

00:27:43.940 It's really freed me in so many ways because now I recognize what they're doing.

00:27:47.280 And when I say they, I'm also referring to the mainstream media, which is a part of this apparatus.

00:27:51.620 Right.

00:27:51.740 They're taking payments.

00:27:53.020 We saw just this during the time of covid.

00:27:54.740 Like they're getting paid by Big Pharma.

00:27:56.460 They have their talking points and their element is to torture people for not complying.

00:28:00.700 Right.

00:28:00.980 So it's like, oh, you're do you want to be anti-vax?

00:28:03.520 Because if you're a public figure and I really look back at the people who were saying this years ago, like Jenny McCarthy and the stuff that was said about her.

00:28:10.720 I mean, she was so brave in the retrospect when she was talking about her son, who she said a vaccine gave him autism and the media just came down on her.

00:28:17.840 Right.

00:28:18.000 So it's like we're not saying you don't have to get the vaccines, but you're going to have 80,000 articles written about you calling you a dangerous anti-vaxxer.

00:28:25.220 You're never going to get booked again for another show.

00:28:27.200 You're going to lose your acting career.

00:28:28.720 That is an element of this this dark psychology, which is essentially like get into formation or we are going to destroy your credibility and make it difficult for you to live.

00:28:38.560 And the only way that I think you can have any guard against that is to understand it, understand that that is what they are there to do, is to see a person that's telling the truth, just like the kid in the classroom, isolate that person and have everyone around them say, oh, you're really going to keep saying that?

00:28:53.620 Are you really going to keep saying that people shouldn't get this COVID vaccine, Candace?

00:28:57.200 Are you really going to keep saying that you don't believe the World War II narrative, Tom Woods?

00:29:02.400 Experts agree. 0.98

00:29:03.540 You're a kook. 0.97

00:29:04.380 You know, all of these, it gets down to really this elementary name calling and poking people for not wanting to fit in with the in crowd. 0.97

00:29:14.480 And the in crowd is not cool.

00:29:15.500 I just want everybody to know that. 0.99

00:29:16.320 Like these people are absolute losers and that's why I don't listen. 0.96

00:29:18.500 Yeah, why would you want to hang out? 0.98

00:29:20.200 Like I would say to people, you could hang out with Dr. Jay Varma and all these boring people, or you could hang out with us.

00:29:26.240 Like, you know, it's going to be vastly better.

00:29:28.000 But the desire to conform has been so utterly destructive, not just in COVID, but in so many other areas of history.

00:29:39.660 And as I say, it's been so discouraging for me to see this because I kind of thought, well, once we get the Internet, people will understand the world.

00:29:47.840 You know, I guess not.

00:29:49.600 But before we started recording, I mentioned the case, or I can't remember if it was with you or one of your associates, but Dr. Anders Tegnell was the state epidemiologist in Sweden.

00:29:59.840 And everybody, everybody piled on him.

00:30:02.780 And this was a guy who was very much an outlier because he very ostentatiously did not go along with the lockdown regime and almost nobody in Sweden wore masks.

00:30:14.200 When I finally took a trip to Sweden during all this, the only people wearing masks were American tourists.

00:30:19.880 I'm not kidding.

00:30:20.600 They just weren't and it didn't make any difference and nobody cared.

00:30:23.580 But he said, it's going to take three years for me to be vindicated, three years of nothing but abuse and slander and unbelievable attacks.

00:30:35.620 Like you can't believe the entire medical establishment around the world going after him.

00:30:39.740 And I think about a weakling like Anthony Fauci, you know, who can't take some criticism very well.

00:30:46.120 Anthony Fauci needs to be lauded and awarded and praised and people bowing before him.

00:30:52.160 And that's what he signs in the yard.

00:30:54.320 Thank you, Dr. Fauci.

00:30:55.920 The bobblehead.

00:30:56.940 I mean, come on, bobblehead. 0.96

00:30:58.340 So, you know, and could you imagine him surviving for three days, much less three weeks with the entire establishment coming down?

00:31:05.940 And then it turns out the guy was vindicated because we have the numbers for all the countries of Europe and excess deaths during the period 2020 to 2023.

00:31:16.100 And guess which country did the best in terms of good health?

00:31:20.560 It was Sweden.

00:31:21.080 So that means that all the things they said to us were false.

00:31:26.200 That means, like, I live in Florida, thank God, because it meant that I was able to avoid, like, my kids were able to live normal lives during this time.

00:31:36.280 But you compare it with California, you have to adjust for age because California is one of the youngest states and we all know everybody goes to retire in Florida.

00:31:43.780 So you have to adjust for that.

00:31:45.660 But it turns out that California had a worse excess death number than Florida did.

00:31:51.340 California was worse.

00:31:52.840 So even if you say, well, Florida suppressed its COVID numbers, which it didn't.

00:31:56.680 But you know what?

00:31:57.500 Even if I concede that to you, that has nothing to do with excess deaths overall.

00:32:01.140 And overall, Florida did better than California.

00:32:04.080 Now, that's impossible.

00:32:05.600 According to what they told us, that's impossible.

00:32:08.440 California locked down so much that when they finally reopened Disneyland, it was the last Disney property in the world to reopen.

00:32:16.480 And they opened it at 15%.

00:32:18.620 Gavin Newsom said, well, no screaming on the rides.

00:32:22.180 Now, you know, people scream on the rides involuntarily.

00:32:25.680 You know, like, this isn't something we want to do.

00:32:28.700 But he did all that.

00:32:30.560 He destroyed so many people and businesses and dreams and lives and savings account and health.

00:32:36.320 But people who had missed surgeries and all the rest of it.

00:32:39.340 And they did worse than Florida.

00:32:40.840 Now, if I had said to people in March 2020, if Florida does this and California does that, which one's going to do better?

00:32:47.940 They would all have said California.

00:32:49.960 Every last one of them.

00:32:51.160 But the answer is Florida.

00:32:52.400 So, therefore, they owe us an apology that we're probably never going to get.

00:32:55.380 Oh, we're never going to get any of the apologies.

00:32:56.760 I am very much owed an apology from Sam Harris.

00:32:59.340 I'm going to just go ahead and say that, Sam.

00:33:00.700 If you're out there, it's totally fine to say sorry.

00:33:02.780 But he and this is interesting, though.

00:33:04.560 Actually, I love speaking about Sam Harris during COVID because COVID broke Sam Harris in a lot of ways.

00:33:09.400 And, you know, he was this big podcaster.

00:33:11.080 But I think the most compelling element for me about the Sam Harris story is that he is a committed atheist.

00:33:15.560 Right.

00:33:15.960 He's traveling around the world debating people on atheism, why he believes that everyone should be an atheist, yada, yada, yada, gets this podcast, Stanford grad.

00:33:24.680 COVID hits and his mind goes crazy.

00:33:27.300 Right.

00:33:27.460 I mean, I said tweeted something about I don't even know what it said. 0.87

00:33:31.000 And he like wrote back and was like, you're going to get people killed.

00:33:33.280 And this is at the beginning of COVID.

00:33:34.220 And at the time we had a mutual friend, Dave Rubin, and Dave Rubin just said to me, listen, I don't want you guys to fight.

00:33:43.320 Get on the phone and speak.

00:33:44.180 Like, so I am in the car.

00:33:46.440 I'll never forget this.

00:33:47.160 And I we got on the phone call and he sounds like he's in a bunker.

00:33:49.900 Like he is like he is like, you don't understand.

00:33:52.400 Like I spoke to the experts.

00:33:53.600 Like I went to Stanford.

00:33:55.100 I know for a fact that my friend that is a doctor in Italy, there's going to be gurneys in the street.

00:34:00.660 You do not understand.

00:34:01.520 Bodies are going to be piling up.

00:34:03.020 Get home like with your family.

00:34:04.460 Like not don't let your kids outside.

00:34:06.480 And I just like respectfully listen because I was just I knew I wasn't listening to what he said, you know, it was totally fine.

00:34:12.180 And I said, OK, thank you.

00:34:13.520 Thank you.

00:34:13.760 Thank you for the information.

00:34:14.380 Hung up the phone, turned to my husband.

00:34:15.760 I was like, that man is disturbed.

00:34:17.860 Got out of the car, shook hands at an event, literally spoke at an event in Texas that day.

00:34:21.960 And I I look at that in the retrospect.

00:34:24.840 And I think, like I said, the atheism part is compelling because there actually is no such thing as an atheist.

00:34:30.420 There are only people who have this vacuum for which another faith can be replaced.

00:34:35.220 Right.

00:34:35.580 So if you believe that you don't believe in God, you believe in something.

00:34:38.180 And Sam Harris that day declared what his God was.

00:34:40.160 It was government. 0.99

00:34:41.200 And that's exactly why when you look back on communist regimes, they want to make sure that people kill, they kill Christians. 0.96

00:34:48.440 They want to make sure they're not practicing Christian faith because I have a faith. 0.95

00:34:51.540 I have a very strong faith.

00:34:52.800 And so there's no way you're going to get me to bow the knee to government because I understand that there is a higher power.

00:34:57.680 Sam Harris doesn't.

00:34:58.820 Right.

00:34:59.000 And so when you see people that gravitate towards these various pagan faiths, whether it's environmentalism, people crying in the streets, the planet's going to be over in 10 days.

00:35:07.500 Maybe scientism tells us that the planet's going to be over in 10 years, every 10 years.

00:35:12.280 And you wonder what's happening with them.

00:35:15.580 I do see this spiritual void that is being filled with something incredibly toxic.

00:35:21.920 And that toxic thing is government. 0.99

00:35:23.560 Government seeks to be the God in people's lives.

00:35:25.940 You would like a book by Father Vincent Michelli called The Gods of Atheism.

00:35:30.240 It's very much along these lines.

00:35:32.120 So I'll tell you, I'll remind you about it later.

00:35:34.440 So that's a good one.

00:35:36.560 Say the title again.

00:35:37.640 The Gods of Atheism.

00:35:38.660 The Gods of Atheism by?

00:35:39.860 By Father Vincent Michelli.

00:35:41.620 And on the back cover, you can see him handing a copy to the Pope.

00:35:44.980 So not the current Pope.

00:35:46.480 This is another bad Pope, Paul VI.

00:35:49.140 But we're not going to, unless you want to get into bad Popes, we have other things to talk about.

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00:36:52.700 I actually want to tell a quick story because I think I do want to acknowledge people who, you know, because there were a lot of us who did figure things out and did stand up, even if it meant they lost friendships, they were called names or whatever.

00:37:10.240 And there's a—I've told this story a bunch of times, but I love it so much, and I've gotten to know the woman involved.

00:37:15.320 In Ohio, a woman named Catherine Hewig had been following the data very closely, and she got an opportunity to speak before the Ohio State Legislature.

00:37:23.580 And she brought in a chart, and it was a chart of, like, COVID deaths over time, but she didn't put the time stamps on the bottom, so you don't know what month is what.

00:37:34.040 And she says, all right, if the things that you did to us, like the curfews, the lockdowns, the masks, this mandate, that mandate, if they did anything, you should be able to pick out on the chart exactly when they were implemented.

00:37:45.920 I'd also like you to show me when's Thanksgiving, because we were all supposed to die at Thanksgiving.

00:37:50.140 Can you find that on the chart?

00:37:51.400 How about Christmas?

00:37:52.420 How about the George Floyd riots?

00:37:53.940 Can you pick any of these things out, and I'll wait.

00:37:56.780 And, of course, it's all completely random, and so none of them could.

00:38:00.760 And so that inspired—I finally created a little site where—because you can't tell the difference.

00:38:06.240 You compare states right next to each other.

00:38:08.520 You compare counties.

00:38:09.100 Here, in Nashville, Tennessee, I've got in my book four charts, and it's four different counties, and one of them limited restaurant capacity and bar capacity to 25%, and the others didn't.

00:38:22.420 And I say, all right, here are the charts.

00:38:23.580 Pick out the one that did that.

00:38:24.880 And, of course, absolutely impossible to do that.

00:38:27.140 So I came up with a full-blown quiz where on the screen it'll say, all right, which one of these do you think implemented a mask mandate and which one didn't?

00:38:35.740 And there'll be places that are right next to each other, you know, so it's the same people.

00:38:39.240 And you have to—and you get everyone wrong.

00:38:41.280 You know, you get them all wrong.

00:38:42.440 So covidchartsquiz.com.

00:38:44.360 I did that just for fun.

00:38:45.740 And you have another COVID website.

00:38:47.080 What's the—

00:38:47.580 Oh, the big one is diaryofcovid.com.

00:38:50.760 Diaryofcovid.com.

00:38:51.360 Can I just tell you one little thing about this?

00:38:52.740 Yes, of course.

00:38:53.740 It has my favorite television moment from four years of madness.

00:38:59.260 Because on that page, on diaryofcovid.com, there's like a two-minute video, and it's about my book, but it's really about what happened.

00:39:06.000 And I said to the guy, because I can't make a promo video for that saved my life.

00:39:10.020 So the guy who did it for me, I said, you have to include this clip from MSNBC.

00:39:13.920 So MSNBC finally asked somebody a tough question about this. 0.60

00:39:19.920 They had Andy Slavitt, who's a bum.

00:39:22.680 He was one of the White House COVID advisors. 0.67

00:39:25.640 I mean, that is not a credential that you want.

00:39:27.860 And they said to him, you know, they're engaged in such heavy lockdown in California, and yet Florida seems to be doing about the same.

00:39:36.700 So how do you explain that?

00:39:37.540 And I thought, oh my gosh, MSNBC, of all possible places, just asked the question, capital Q.

00:39:43.720 Like, what?

00:39:44.640 What is he going to say?

00:39:45.540 And there's that part of you that thinks, you know, he's not a dummy. 0.83

00:39:49.160 I mean, he says and does dumb things, but he must have been smart to, you know, get a degree or something. 0.96

00:39:55.120 So maybe he's got some brain power. 0.92

00:39:56.680 So maybe he's got some answer that I just haven't thought of.

00:40:00.220 Oh, it's so glorious, his answer.

00:40:02.660 He has no answer.

00:40:04.000 He says, you know, this is a virus that just keeps surprising us.

00:40:07.220 You know, it's hard to know what it's going to do.

00:40:10.000 But we do know what works.

00:40:11.840 And then he lists all the things that obviously didn't work.

00:40:14.500 And I thought, wow, so it really is the case that they have no answer.

00:40:18.260 So then they asked, they got the gumption to ask Fauci a similar question.

00:40:22.460 You know, Texas reopened and we're not seeing corpses on the side of the road.

00:40:25.600 What do you think is going on there?

00:40:26.960 His answer was, maybe they're doing things outdoors.

00:40:31.040 So they brought the whole state outside.

00:40:33.200 And that's the explanation.

00:40:34.740 So I said, those clips need to be preserved forever.

00:40:41.020 Like every future student of this needs to see these.

00:40:43.980 That when you actually asked them, if you're thinking, well, they have some sophisticated response, they did not have a sophisticated response.

00:40:51.520 They had no idea what was going on.

00:40:53.140 And all I wanted them to say was, we're puzzled as to what's happening here.

00:40:57.120 I just wanted some acknowledgement, some humility on the part of these people instead of the unbelievable, unremitting arrogance that we got for years.

00:41:06.240 I would say that it's worse than arrogance.

00:41:08.220 I actually think that it's true evil.

00:41:10.060 And there's no other way I think that you can look at it in the retrospect without appreciating.

00:41:13.740 This was not some ut-oh that the government made.

00:41:16.020 You know, this took a lot of coordination.

00:41:17.480 It took bullying.

00:41:18.260 It took lying.

00:41:19.380 It took manipulating the data like they've done for a very long time.

00:41:23.500 It took, even if you speak to people that were in hospitals, changing the diagnostic definition.

00:41:27.640 So even the way they were testing, it was to ensure that they were getting positives.

00:41:30.880 It took also mandating that people get tested post-mortem.

00:41:34.440 So if they got hit by a car, they were being counted as a COVID death.

00:41:37.560 I mean, that is a true evil.

00:41:39.440 And so you have to then say, what was the point of this?

00:41:41.860 Right.

00:41:42.000 You had people, they allowed people to die.

00:41:44.440 Right.

00:41:44.720 And I'm talking about people that got the vaccine.

00:41:48.000 And they wouldn't admit until later that it was causing myocarditis.

00:41:51.080 But people were dying of heart attacks that were extremely young.

00:41:54.040 And they were like, oh, no.

00:41:55.440 There were women who were early on saying it was impacting their menstruation.

00:41:58.620 They gaslit them until they couldn't gaslight them anymore.

00:42:00.940 So it was impacting fertility because actually menstruation is linked to fertility. 1.00

00:42:04.680 And you look back at all of that and it would be great if we could say, oh, they were just stupid. 1.00

00:42:09.240 But they weren't just stupid. 1.00

00:42:10.600 You know, they were intentional in telling these lies. 1.00

00:42:13.600 And so what is your answer for why they, what was their actual aim in doing all of this?

00:42:21.080 Yeah.

00:42:21.380 Now that, that's the big one that I, we can only speculate on that because we don't have a smoking gun.

00:42:30.620 When I had, Harvey Risch was with the Yale School of Public Health.

00:42:35.180 And he was a real hero through this, believe it or not.

00:42:38.620 Very, there were some people at top schools who were trying to tell some truths.

00:42:42.560 And I had him on the Tom Wood Show.

00:42:44.080 And I said, he just casually mentioned that Fauci had lied about something.

00:42:48.360 I said, and I remember in 2020 when I would have even critics of Fauci on, they were very respectful.

00:42:54.580 But as the years went on, the respect just went out the window.

00:42:58.680 And I said, wait a minute, you're just casually saying that Fauci lied?

00:43:02.080 And he just said like it was obvious. 0.99

00:43:03.880 He said, oh yeah, he's a sociopath.

00:43:05.920 This was like one of the, like the guy from the Yale School of Public Health. 0.98

00:43:09.080 Oh yeah, he's a sociopath. 0.85

00:43:09.980 Like we all know this. 0.99

00:43:11.140 Like in public, we all say huzzah.

00:43:13.320 But in private, everybody knows what the deal is with him.

00:43:16.860 And then the other thing, and then I'll try and come up with an answer to your question,

00:43:19.680 but it's very hard.

00:43:20.860 The other thing I want to say related to this, because you were saying about the way they lied

00:43:25.240 and they were trying to manipulate us into doing things.

00:43:27.480 When they were trying to push the shots on kids, right around that time, we got a report

00:43:33.200 coincidentally saying that COVID is a top five killer of children.

00:43:36.880 Now, right around that time.

00:43:38.940 Now, anybody even remotely following this knows COVID was never a top five killer of children.

00:43:45.440 And yet all the people, the Surgeon General repeated this.

00:43:48.200 Everybody repeated this.

00:43:49.180 Professors at Harvard were repeating this.

00:43:51.180 It was a lay woman in Georgia, Kelly Cronert, who simply can read data. 0.93

00:43:55.900 She can read data, who wrote a report and sent it out to the world, because at least we have

00:44:00.620 the internet.

00:44:01.200 So she sent it out to the world and they had to retract it.

00:44:04.820 She embarrassed them.

00:44:05.760 She doesn't have these credentials. 0.73

00:44:08.260 Maybe she did go to a fancy university, but not for medicine.

00:44:11.560 They were going to try to get away with that.

00:44:13.380 And there's no way they could have thought that was true, right?

00:44:15.700 That's impossible for you to follow COVID, not know the thousand fold age gradient difference

00:44:20.700 between mortality for old and young.

00:44:22.480 You had to know that.

00:44:24.080 Top five killer of children.

00:44:25.920 And it was a lay woman who said, you people are all lying to us.

00:44:28.920 And it makes me wonder, back in the days when we had only three channels, I don't know if

00:44:32.980 you were around then, but I was.

00:44:34.220 We had only three, we had three channels.

00:44:36.840 What were they getting away with then when there was no Kelly Cronert to come along and

00:44:40.940 say, here's where you're wrong.

00:44:42.500 So what were they trying to do here?

00:44:44.780 I mean, Harvey Risch, again, he was a guy who was as mainstream as you can ask for, suggested

00:44:50.960 that they did not have an objection, he believes, to having people die unnecessarily in order

00:45:01.220 to make the vaccine seem more urgently necessary.

00:45:04.420 That they were ridiculing the idea of outpatient treatments so that the situation would seem

00:45:11.240 more dire, so that everybody would flock to the vaccine.

00:45:13.560 That's what he thinks happened.

00:45:15.260 That's wild that somebody would make an accusation like that in his position.

00:45:19.360 Well, we have the right to ask questions.

00:45:21.080 And I think one of the things that naturally leads you to, when you recognize that they

00:45:25.680 told even one big lie, right?

00:45:27.080 So even if you begin with vaccines and you're like, I truly accept that they lied on a mass

00:45:31.660 scale about this.

00:45:32.560 Then, of course, your brain goes, well, they're capable of lying on a mass scale and getting

00:45:36.620 away with it, right?

00:45:37.620 And making people sick and harming people with their lies and never having to apologize.

00:45:42.340 And that instantly brings you to history, where you go, how long have they been lying?

00:45:45.840 I'm going to guess they just start with COVID.

00:45:48.080 It becomes very difficult to accept that they're lying to us presently, and they weren't lying

00:45:53.700 to us historically, right?

00:45:54.960 So we get into this sort of official narrative of American history.

00:45:58.740 You know, recently, Tucker Carlson was getting, I mean, everybody in the mainstream media is

00:46:03.120 always attacking him because he just has conversations with people, and he had on a historian who

00:46:07.740 did not accept the textbook narrative regarding World War II.

00:46:11.840 And the way the media reacted was precious, to say the least.

00:46:17.680 It was like the return of Godzilla.

00:46:20.120 Precious.

00:46:21.520 What did you think about that?

00:46:23.260 Well, I had Daryl Cooper on the Tom Woods Show, and we talked it through.

00:46:27.000 And one of the things he said is, you know, there's a whole literature out there on the

00:46:31.940 library shelves, collecting dust, making exactly the arguments I did, but since nobody knows

00:46:37.160 anything except the mainstream narrative, nobody's even aware of these books.

00:46:41.240 You know, no one's aware of A.J.P.

00:46:42.800 Taylor, or more recently, I forget how many, maybe it was 10, 15 years ago, Pat Buchanan

00:46:48.080 had a book, Churchill, Hitler, and the, quote, Unnecessary War, which was Churchill's words.

00:46:55.180 I'm just saying what they said.

00:46:56.540 Like, there's been another way of thinking about what actually went on that's maybe somewhat

00:47:01.980 less cartoonish, but...

00:47:03.820 It is cartoonish.

00:47:04.740 The way we learn history is very cartoonish.

00:47:06.960 Good guy, bad guy, no in-between.

00:47:09.320 That's why one of my...

00:47:10.100 Good guy always wins.

00:47:11.140 One of my favorite Norm Macdonald jokes is, it says here in this history book that the

00:47:15.140 good guys won every single war.

00:47:16.860 I mean, what are the odds?

00:47:17.880 You know?

00:47:18.380 So, so there is, there is a bit of that, but I would say between World War II, and I know

00:47:25.040 you're not supposed to, I get that you're not supposed to say these things, I know, but

00:47:27.900 we specialize in this.

00:47:29.560 Between that and the so-called Civil War, these are like the two creation myths of the modern

00:47:36.900 American regime.

00:47:38.620 And so that's why you have to accept the cartoon version, because these things lead you to Hillary

00:47:44.580 Clinton.

00:47:45.400 I mean, the kind of U.S. we have today, where states have very little leeway, very few rights,

00:47:51.940 localities have very few rights.

00:47:54.340 There's a possibility that the Justice Department could tell your school what its policy toward

00:47:59.480 transgender athletes is.

00:48:01.200 That has nothing to do with the Constitution, nothing to do with the original America at

00:48:05.980 all that was based on local self-government.

00:48:07.980 And that's, that's the world that was ushered in by forcing the U.S. into one unbreakable

00:48:14.940 union in that way, is that the states have zero leverage at this point.

00:48:19.160 And what do you think is going to happen?

00:48:20.220 And the U.S. government is going to have a monopoly on interpreting the Constitution.

00:48:25.100 Well, they're going to interpret it in its own, you know, in their own favor.

00:48:27.720 And I know these are hard teachings to hear.

00:48:30.080 Somebody hears me saying this, and they think, Woods, I can follow you so far, but I can't

00:48:34.840 go there.

00:48:35.800 I get that.

00:48:36.460 And you know what?

00:48:36.860 I was in exactly the same position.

00:48:38.380 I can accept this, this, and this, but not that.

00:48:40.900 But you know what?

00:48:41.560 It turns out that in case after case, that thing is true too.

00:48:45.020 Right.

00:48:45.380 I heard actually Tucker speaking about that with Charlie Kirk, and they described it as

00:48:48.440 founding myths, right?

00:48:49.780 Like, and you need a founding myth to get people to rally around and to believe in their

00:48:54.020 identity.

00:48:54.600 And for the U.K., it's like Winston Churchill is like one of the founding myths, you know?

00:48:58.520 Yeah.

00:48:58.720 And you cannot say anything bad about Winston Churchill.

00:49:01.380 And just when you process that, and again, just thinking about your experience with human beings,

00:49:05.300 doesn't that just flag you as weird immediately?

00:49:07.260 That there's just nothing bad ever said about him, and he's such a hero, and yet we know

00:49:10.700 he locked arms with Stalin.

00:49:12.120 It's like, there's just something, there has to be more to the narrative here.

00:49:15.440 And for me, one of the things that I think really kind of woke me up to that was actually

00:49:19.380 a priest who shared a documentary, the BBC documentary.

00:49:21.820 And I got into tons of trouble for sharing it.

00:49:23.120 I said, everybody should watch it.

00:49:24.180 And many millions of people did when I did, entitled The Savage Peace.

00:49:29.940 Oh, people need to know about that.

00:49:31.700 And it's insane.

00:49:32.740 Yeah.

00:49:33.160 No American even knew about this.

00:49:34.680 We're just like allowing German-speaking people.

00:49:38.560 They weren't even German civilians ever voted for Hitler.

00:49:40.480 Nothing.

00:49:41.320 Lined up in the streets, shot their children, their legs being run over.

00:49:46.320 Sadistically, I mean, the pyramids, putting them in pyramids, putting them into concentration

00:49:50.500 camps post-war.

00:49:52.100 The Allies allowed this to take place. 0.58

00:49:54.340 And so what it does is it just jolts you into reality.

00:49:57.560 For me, when I watched it, I went, I know nothing about World War II.

00:50:00.900 Clearly, I know nothing other than what they wanted me to know in a classroom, because

00:50:04.700 everything we learn about this is that we were doing this because we had to end this

00:50:10.280 genocide.

00:50:10.820 We were doing this because concentration camps are wrong.

00:50:12.640 And now I'm watching this documentary that's showing me that the Allies allowed these 1.00

00:50:15.600 concentrations to take place during peacetime following the war.

00:50:18.940 So you just go, OK, where do I begin?

00:50:21.200 You know, where do I begin?

00:50:21.920 How do I learn everything so that I can form an idea about what happened during these world

00:50:28.320 wars?

00:50:29.140 And you notice they can't even just say something as simple as it's morally ambiguous because

00:50:33.400 there were terrible, terrible crimes committed on the Allied side.

00:50:37.060 And then they could say, but unfortunately, being utilitarian, we had to do that because

00:50:41.380 at least that would, I could at least understand the argument.

00:50:44.720 Yeah, make me feel better.

00:50:45.260 Yeah.

00:50:45.540 At least I see where you're coming from.

00:50:46.920 But it's not reasonable what they're asking us to believe.

00:50:49.840 They're just like, no, nope.

00:50:50.960 We never did anything wrong.

00:50:51.940 Everything was absolutely necessary.

00:50:53.420 Dresden was necessary.

00:50:54.580 Dropping a bomb.

00:50:55.640 Everything was necessary.

00:50:56.380 It was all about ending the war. 0.77

00:50:57.460 And you grow up and you realize, yeah, I don't know how I ever accepted these narratives.

00:51:01.080 And you then, I think, have a different perspective, a much more cautious perspective when they

00:51:06.860 try to lead us into the next war.

00:51:09.120 And we're kind of in that circumstance right now where we're sensing there's a lot of tension

00:51:13.340 in the Middle East.

00:51:13.900 And it's just recently announced that they are going to put Americans in the Middle East. 0.86

00:51:17.540 And I think a lot of Americans feel depressed by that because we're just going, when are

00:51:23.620 we allowed to just be isolationalists, right?

00:51:26.240 When are we allowed to focus on what's happening here in America?

00:51:29.080 When are we allowed to worry about, you know, gas prices and groceries and not have the media

00:51:34.140 again trying to condition us to believe that we need to spread democracy somewhere overseas

00:51:38.880 and fund somewhere overseas into perpetuity?

00:51:42.280 Yeah.

00:51:43.080 And you know, too, and I couldn't agree more with that, but you know, too, that the version

00:51:47.680 of events that we're getting about Ukraine, which is also a cartoon, I mean, really, you

00:51:52.300 can't really blame Kamala Harris for saying Russia is a big country and it's next to a small

00:51:57.680 country and it invaded the small country and that's bad.

00:52:01.120 You know, she's just repeating what they say on CNN. 0.98

00:52:03.820 Like, I mean, I don't really hold that against her.

00:52:06.320 But that's, again, that's what's going to be in your kid's textbook in 20 years is going

00:52:10.360 to be that version.

00:52:12.060 And I've noticed that, I think this has kind of happened, especially over the past 10 years,

00:52:16.740 even the headlines of an article are propaganda these days.

00:52:19.880 Even the headline already has you biased as you start reading the article.

00:52:24.560 And again, what happens to these headlines over time?

00:52:29.020 These headlines and these articles become what's inside the covers of your history book.

00:52:35.040 So it makes you wonder what the heck can I trust?

00:52:39.380 Not to mention, you talked about psychology.

00:52:41.680 About 10 years ago, the field endured something called the replication crisis, where it turned

00:52:46.820 out that a huge number of quote-unquote peer-reviewed studies could not be replicated by other

00:52:53.520 researchers.

00:52:54.080 They were all bogus.

00:52:55.940 And so I wrote about this and I had scholars from other disciplines saying, it's not just

00:53:01.080 psychology, it's my field too, and it's that field, and it's that field.

00:53:04.520 The universities are a mess.

00:53:07.760 And yet, I think the other thing that we have a superstitious reverence for, apart from

00:53:12.320 doctors, is the college professor.

00:53:14.620 Because he has this giant brain filled with facts, and we better sit at his feet.

00:53:19.860 But it is a mess.

00:53:21.300 It's a good thing no one's paying attention, or they would be embarrassed if they were capable

00:53:24.680 of embarrassment.

00:53:25.300 Yeah, sort of going back to Thomas Sowell referencing the confidence of the American kids who were

00:53:30.900 like at the bottom of the mathematical capabilities compared to the Korean kids who didn't have 1.00

00:53:35.680 any confidence but were at the top.

00:53:37.720 It's really interesting because-

00:53:38.800 I'd like them to have both, right?

00:53:39.680 Yeah.

00:53:40.000 Well, it's interesting because we've actually, truthfully, never in the history of America

00:53:43.960 ever given out more degrees and have never, and yet paradoxically, have never produced 0.98

00:53:48.100 dumber kids. 0.98

00:53:48.620 And I'm talking about like literally the kids are dumber than they've ever been. 1.00

00:53:51.820 And Matt Walsh, my former colleague, did this thing where he read to his audience a letter 0.99

00:53:57.860 written by a Civil War soldier who had no formal education.

00:54:02.120 It's like poetry.

00:54:03.380 Yeah, I'm sure.

00:54:04.040 And the average kid today cannot do that.

00:54:06.140 So that's why I say we're actually in the dark ages. 1.00

00:54:08.380 All they're doing is inflating people's egos and making them dumber and dumber and dumber. 0.99

00:54:12.480 And I think we have this very small window of opportunity to wake up to that and to respond 0.99

00:54:18.500 to it.

00:54:18.940 And it's why I am now an advocate for homeschooling.

00:54:22.160 I believe very much like where you send your kid to school really matters and that they

00:54:25.900 will learn far more in your household than they can now in this social setting where

00:54:29.900 all they're doing is telling them to feel.

00:54:32.000 And how do you feel today?

00:54:33.500 And confusing them.

00:54:34.900 Now there's, you know, 39,000 genders. 1.00

00:54:37.220 And if you feel like a horse, you are a horse.

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00:55:34.580 Well, I helped, this was about 12 or so years ago, but I helped Ron Paul create, he has his

00:55:41.240 own homeschool program, ronpaulhomeschool.com.

00:55:44.380 And I created the Western Civ courses for that.

00:55:47.300 Oh, wow.

00:55:47.820 And also the government course, which the government course is not like a government course you

00:55:51.740 would normally get, I promise you.

00:55:53.660 But yeah, this is, his program has two years of Western Civ.

00:55:57.880 Normally it's one, but I teach two years worth of Western Civ from the ancient Hebrews all 1.00

00:56:03.820 the way up through the end of the 20th century.

00:56:06.000 And it's, you know, I mean, it's, it's, it's going to give your students an opportunity to

00:56:10.740 get, shall we say, the other side of the story.

00:56:13.100 That's what I wanted to do.

00:56:13.720 Because they'll get the mainstream version everywhere they turn the rest of their lives.

00:56:17.860 Yeah, it's so funny.

00:56:18.620 That's exactly what I was speaking with my husband about, about doing next year, like

00:56:21.280 wanting to do these sort of like 10 course packages, like sitting down and doing like

00:56:24.700 history with Dave Smith, like history with Tom Woods, and just putting it up on a website

00:56:28.140 so that parents can, their kids can just go through that very quickly at a way lower price

00:56:31.660 plan, imagining that they're spending $100,000 to get a degree in gender studies is, this 0.98

00:56:36.800 is, this is robbery.

00:56:38.080 I mean, this is just, this is a financial crime that is taking place.

00:56:42.040 You're making them ill-equipped to go in and to ever be able to create in their lives, to

00:56:47.500 ever be able to take care of themselves, and simultaneously charging them a fortune.

00:56:51.000 And that needs to be disrupted.

00:56:52.300 So I'm very pleased to hear this.

00:56:53.340 I didn't know that you had done this already.

00:56:54.660 Oh, it's a great program.

00:56:55.780 So, and by the way, I have the mainstream credentials.

00:56:58.840 I have a PhD from Columbia.

00:57:00.380 I have a degree from Harvard.

00:57:02.060 He's an expert.

00:57:02.800 Trust him.

00:57:03.420 I know.

00:57:03.840 He's like, I'm embarrassed to tell people that.

00:57:05.640 Like, I saved that to the end to even mention.

00:57:08.300 But the thing is, the one thing those things did do for me is they made it harder, a little

00:57:14.620 bit harder for the other side to dismiss me.

00:57:17.720 So, I mean, I do appreciate that.

00:57:19.600 Like when Jay Bhattacharya at Stanford says there's something wrong with locking people down,

00:57:24.020 it's hard to dismiss him as a crank.

00:57:26.200 He's Jay Bhattacharya from Stanford University.

00:57:28.380 You know, so I'm going to use these credentials as much as I can until they're, you know,

00:57:33.360 like I want them to seriously regret ever admitting me, you know.

00:57:36.400 Well, that's Thomas Sowell.

00:57:37.120 He said, I went to Harvard, so I never had to deal with people telling me that they went

00:57:40.140 to Harvard.

00:57:40.780 It's like, now we can just get to the conversation.

00:57:42.620 I know.

00:57:42.900 We have the same credentials.

00:57:44.020 Now we can just have a conversation and not listen to you tell me that because you went

00:57:47.000 to Harvard.

00:57:47.640 I love that he says that.

00:57:49.120 It's brilliant.

00:57:49.480 This year would have been my blankety blank reunion at Harvard, and I didn't go, even

00:57:53.320 though I have some friends from there, but I can see them whenever I want.

00:57:57.200 Because I know it's just going to be the same opinions.

00:58:00.000 You know, I know where they all stand on Ukraine.

00:58:01.800 I know where they all stand on gender theory.

00:58:03.600 Ukraine and gender theory have nothing to do with each other.

00:58:05.780 And yet I can predict exactly what their opinions are.

00:58:08.480 What a bore.

00:58:09.160 But yet I do go to my high school reunion because there, there are enough ordinary people who 0.92

00:58:14.680 can process information and say, I'm not sure I go along with this.

00:58:18.900 You know, like they actually have a variety of opinions.

00:58:21.160 But my gosh, could you imagine how absolutely intolerable hanging around a Harvard reunion

00:58:26.320 would be?

00:58:26.940 Oh, forget it.

00:58:28.980 Guantanamo Bay for me.

00:58:31.900 Take me out.

00:58:33.340 You know, I think one of the things that I have realized is the most important is instilling

00:58:38.240 confidence in your kids.

00:58:39.440 That's really what the establishment hates is the confidence, the audacity to be yourself,

00:58:44.020 the audacity to think, to ask questions.

00:58:46.140 Like they get sent in a tizzy if I ever say, I'm going to think about this idea.

00:58:49.680 Like what?

00:58:50.300 How dare you?

00:58:50.880 This is already established.

00:58:52.360 And so it's so important to recognize that if you're sending your kids to the public education

00:58:56.620 system, you're sending them through an indoctrination camp that seeks to make them conform to the

00:59:01.360 crowd and to not have the courage and the audacity of their own ideas, not believe in themselves

00:59:07.060 to ask a simple question that goes against the grain.

00:59:11.060 And I think that a lot of parents are sensing that and feeling that.

00:59:14.520 And I know we're both Catholics, so we're hopeful.

00:59:17.240 We know in the end that we win.

00:59:19.300 And so what would you recommend to the parents that are watching the show and to the students

00:59:22.740 that are in school and realizing that what we're saying in Chewigan, a lot of young students

00:59:25.820 who watch the show and they're like, yeah, we're learning absolutely nothing.

00:59:28.000 And, you know, leaving them with, I guess, a message of hope or something that they should

00:59:31.960 be doing right now.

00:59:33.900 Okay.

00:59:34.300 Well, there are some good things about being alive in 2024.

00:59:38.600 And one of them is the technology.

00:59:40.980 Now, the technology has turned out to be a double-edged sword because I think, although

00:59:46.240 it's true that because of the internet, we were able to get dissident voices out during

00:59:49.700 COVID.

00:59:50.540 I don't know if they could have gotten away with COVID if they hadn't had this kind of everybody

00:59:54.480 being connected.

00:59:55.360 And because I think it encouraged a kind of tribalism that I see what everybody else is

01:00:00.580 doing, so I better do that.

01:00:01.880 Or I'm hearing what every expert is saying, so I better do that.

01:00:05.060 So it's been a double-edged sword.

01:00:06.260 But it also means there are resources out there because basically almost anybody can have a

01:00:12.260 website, you know?

01:00:13.460 Almost anybody, basically anybody can have a podcast.

01:00:16.460 And so there are resources out there.

01:00:18.200 So one resource I would give is, I mean, yeah, the Ron Paul homeschool program you have to

01:00:22.960 pay for, but I actually give away my U.S. history courses for nothing.

01:00:27.180 So woodshistory.com.

01:00:28.980 It costs you nothing.

01:00:30.260 And these take you from the colonial period up through the end of the 20th century.

01:00:34.700 And it's going to be interesting.

01:00:37.600 It's going to be a dissident perspective.

01:00:40.400 But there's nothing we made up.

01:00:41.940 This is all true.

01:00:42.620 And it's what people need to know.

01:00:46.700 I know we say we have to learn history so we don't repeat it.

01:00:51.680 And that seems like a cliche.

01:00:53.660 But the thing is, if people are constantly telling us, like in 2008, well, the government

01:00:58.360 has to spend a lot more money because you know what happened after the Great Depression.

01:01:02.440 You know, we spent a lot more money and that got us out of it.

01:01:05.040 Well, if you don't know if that's true or not, how do you know if we should do that today?

01:01:07.920 You know, or if they say, oh, because the Constitution says the president is the commander

01:01:12.440 in chief, he can send troops anywhere he wants to without the consent of Congress.

01:01:16.260 It is true the Constitution says that.

01:01:18.120 But is that what that means?

01:01:19.280 Is there anything else in the Constitution about that?

01:01:21.260 If you don't know U.S. history, how do you evaluate these claims that the lizard people

01:01:25.780 are making today?

01:01:26.540 Now, I borrowed that term from David Icke.

01:01:28.560 I don't know that I subscribe to it entirely.

01:01:30.960 But what other, what seems more descriptive when you're referring to Hillary Clinton than the

01:01:34.860 lizard person?

01:01:35.360 He's just got that part right.

01:01:36.240 She's definitely a reptile, common sense. 1.00

01:01:39.580 Yeah, like if she started tearing her skin off and it was scales under there.

01:01:43.240 Yeah, I would say, well, you know, it makes sense.

01:01:45.260 It adds up.

01:01:47.220 That is so true.

01:01:48.620 And again, just so that people have the website and where can they also pick up a diary of

01:01:52.860 a psychosis?

01:01:53.480 The website is diaryofcovid.com.

01:01:56.780 They can get it at any site in the world.

01:01:59.180 They can also get it at diaryofcovid.com.

01:02:01.020 Okay.

01:02:01.340 And where can people follow you?

01:02:02.960 Um, best thing to do is go to woodshistory.com and get those courses, and then I'll stay

01:02:08.940 in touch with you.

01:02:10.000 Tom Woods, thank you so much for joining us.

01:02:12.060 Thank you, Candice.

01:02:12.760 Take care.

01:02:23.700 Take care.

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01:02:30.640 Bye.

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Candace Owens - October 09, 2024

This Is Why I Choose Not To Vaccinate My Kids ｜ Candace Ep 82

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