Candace Owens - TPUSA Wants Us To Stop Asking Questions About 9⧸10？! ｜ Candace Ep 248

00:00:00.080 Happy Monday, everybody. Today, we are going to discuss, or rather, I'm going to introduce to you a psychological strategy that I refer to as David Hoggan somebody.

00:00:10.720 You guys remember David Hogg of the Parkland shooting tragedy? Of course you do.

00:00:15.540 Well, it seems like Turning Point USA is now engaging in this strategy of David Hogging the public, and I wanted to be clear that it is downright manipulative, and I've really had enough of it.

00:00:26.180 Frankly, what happened over the weekend is that their TP Action COO, Tyler Boyer, went on a little bit of an ex-binge, I don't recommend it, which was then highlighted by Alex Clark, who has a show over there on Instagram.

00:00:41.580 And I think it's therefore fair for us to turn our attention back to them. So, welcome back, Candace.

00:00:56.180 So, let me put it to you this way. I'll give you a different scenario.

00:01:05.740 If, at this very moment, McDonald's publicly announced that their CEO was stepping down, and they were going to replace him with somebody else, nobody would care, right?

00:01:16.160 Like, there's not going to be any public outcry about them doing that. The average person doesn't even know who the current CEO of McDonald's actually is.

00:01:26.180 But, however, giving you a different scenario, if out of nowhere, McDonald's announced that they were getting rid of the Big Mac, that they were changing their French fries, and they're doing away with their chicken nuggets, there would probably be a reaction to that.

00:01:38.200 People would be pretty angry, would probably start trending. And it's because the reality is nobody actually cares about the corporate structure.

00:01:47.960 But if you change the menu items, that actually changes the substance of the company for people.

00:01:53.240 A very recent example of that, by the way, is the Cracker Barrel scandal, which was hilarious, but it was a good point for everybody to learn, right?

00:02:01.400 Corporate, over at Cracker Barrel, effed around, and they found out pretty quickly that that old man on the logo, that inanimate old man that was with the Cracker and the barrel,

00:02:13.220 actually had more meaning to the public than their entire corporate division.

00:02:19.140 They were ready to just walk away from it all because they got rid of the old man and his barrel. 1.00

00:02:24.640 Now, I raise this only to say that I have seen multiple political organizations within recent years, especially when money starts pouring in, right?

00:02:34.120 There's this, like, arrogance that sets in, and they start to delude themselves into believing that they're smarter than their customers, that they're smarter than their audience, so to speak, right?

00:02:44.920 Like, the magic is actually the corporate structure.

00:02:47.120 Audiences, I want to be very clear, will catch a vibe pretty quickly.

00:02:52.200 Audiences are smart.

00:02:52.960 They're perceptive.

00:02:53.920 They will sense when something is off.

00:02:56.420 And the harder that you try to convince them that their senses are not real and that they are imagined, the more obvious it actually becomes to them that their suspicions are correct.

00:03:09.000 Something's not right.

00:03:10.080 Now, to just keep up with the same analogy, Charlie Kirk was essentially the old man on the Cracker Barrel logo.

00:03:17.700 People were invested in Charlie Kirk.

00:03:19.520 We have, at this moment, no definitive understanding of what happened on the day that he was assassinated.

00:03:26.620 But what we do know definitively is that the feds are lying to us.

00:03:30.300 That is obvious.

00:03:31.260 It is abundant.

00:03:32.240 If you have a—if you're able to think thoughts, you recognize that something is very wrong with the story that has been presented to the public.

00:03:40.520 And I think that what the public doesn't understand, and I count myself among the public, is why it seems as though Turning Point USA executives, and I'll say seems, are not even remotely interested in challenging that official narrative.

00:03:59.540 They're not interested in challenging it publicly, at least.

00:04:02.220 In fact, I think it was an ex-user that pointed out, he put it rather bluntly, when he said, so they want us to forgive Tyler Robinson, but to attack the people that are trying to solve the murder of Charlie Kirk?

00:04:13.900 Like, that's not right.

00:04:14.820 It doesn't feel right.

00:04:15.560 It doesn't feel good.

00:04:17.040 Threats of lawsuits.

00:04:18.400 We're collecting evidence.

00:04:19.600 What are we even talking about?

00:04:21.640 And I want to say that what's been bothering me, in particular, are the micro-lies.

00:04:27.940 It seems that they're suddenly in the business of telling micro-lies, tiny little misrepresentations, tiny little half-truths that, right out of the gate, seems altogether unnecessary.

00:04:40.740 It really makes me wonder, who are they protecting exactly?

00:04:45.240 You'll see oftentimes, they and other influencers will invoke Erica as the reason that it's not appropriate to ask questions.

00:04:52.960 It's just not appropriate, while Erica is still mourning, for you guys to ask any questions.

00:04:57.400 And I'm just going to come back at you with some common sense.

00:04:59.620 What sort of widow wouldn't want people to investigate the assassination of their husband? 1.00

00:05:05.420 She has not explicitly said that, but the influencers are invoking that, right?

00:05:10.720 They're invoking, like, you just, it's not appropriate right now for people to be asking questions.

00:05:15.980 That's what I mean when I say they are David hogging us, okay?

00:05:19.400 You could also use another example.

00:05:21.160 Somebody that was on the right, Kyle Kushev.

00:05:23.520 What it essentially means is that when a tragedy takes place and we are all, we are emotional, our emotions are raw, me especially, I think this was the first time where I couldn't really check my emotions.

00:05:34.340 I'm just now, like, moving out of the grief stage.

00:05:37.620 There will be people that then will try to manipulate you, right?

00:05:42.720 They will try to manipulate you by using that strategy of saying, well, it would be really wrong.

00:05:49.400 It would be really wrong for you to look beneath this layer or to ask a question about this.

00:05:54.860 And, you know, it would be an injustice to Charlie Kirk's legacy, really.

00:05:59.020 If you really loved him, then you shouldn't do this, okay?

00:06:04.160 Because the tragedy just happened.

00:06:06.100 And they did this, David Hogg, you're not allowed to question David Hogg.

00:06:09.160 Like, he suddenly became an authority.

00:06:10.700 And no matter what he said, we were kind of told by the journalist that it just made perfect sense and he should go to Harvard.

00:06:16.560 And, you know, obviously, to the extent that anybody suffers and survives a school shooting, I'm with you.

00:06:23.720 And I think that that's totally fair.

00:06:26.400 But then when you go beyond that, it starts to feel a little bit like you're emotionally manipulating us and that you're actually trying to silence people who have valid questions or criticisms or concerns.

00:06:36.580 That strategy, like I said, it worked on me in the beginning.

00:06:39.480 I was definitely completely worked by it.

00:06:42.020 And I was feeling like even though I knew that they were telling white lies, that I should just allow it and to instead focus my entire attention on just unpacking the federal lies.

00:06:56.280 But you know what?

00:06:57.080 Over the weekend, I realized, actually, no.

00:07:00.460 Lying full stop is weird.

00:07:03.160 It's weird after a tragedy.

00:07:05.060 It is weird after someone that you purport to be your best friend.

00:07:08.460 You're so close.

00:07:09.020 Why are you telling micro lies about that person?

00:07:12.440 And actually, by exposing those lies, perhaps it will reveal a bigger picture because what would motivate it?

00:07:19.700 What would actually motivate it?

00:07:20.780 Now, I'll give you just one example here, and we're going to get into some stuff that's rather bombastic, if I'm being frank.

00:07:26.320 But one example that I bit my tongue on a couple weeks ago was when influencers randomly went on a full attack, like full attack mode against me when I very casually, you guys watching the series, very casually mentioned that Catholics were hoping that Charlie was going to take the next step and convert.

00:07:45.740 Like, of course, I'm Catholic.

00:07:47.320 Of course, what would be wrong with me sharing that?

00:07:49.520 Everybody was sharing their stories about Charlie and the conversations they were having.

00:07:53.060 But for some reason, Candace saying, and I'll sum it up effectively, it was like two sentences.

00:07:57.860 Charlie was going through some spiritual changes towards the end.

00:08:01.060 Catholics were hoping that he'd take the next step because he was praying the rosary.

00:08:04.420 I never said he converted because he didn't.

00:08:06.180 That would have been dishonest.

00:08:07.320 But people were somehow really angry.

00:08:10.180 Somebody clearly hit the panic button.

00:08:13.220 Suddenly, a bunch of videos were being made disputing the narrative.

00:08:16.020 People were going, I knew Charlie, and he was truly evangelical to his core.

00:08:20.320 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:08:22.700 And I want to tell you this.

00:08:23.740 It felt coordinated.

00:08:25.220 It felt fake.

00:08:26.520 It felt unnecessary.

00:08:27.800 But most importantly, it was untrue.

00:08:31.160 Okay, it wasn't true.

00:08:32.140 And I'm going to share with you some more truth so that you can contextualize it.

00:08:36.260 Charlie was attending mass weekly.

00:08:37.820 He was sometimes even attending mass daily.

00:08:40.680 He was not attending Pastor Rob McCoy's church.

00:08:44.800 As I mentioned before, yes, he was praying the rosary.

00:08:49.220 Charlie, in fact, was wearing the St. Michael pendant when he died.

00:08:53.460 Okay, as has already been publicized, Erica took a Catholic bishop with her to pray over his body on the day that he died.

00:09:01.080 These are all indisputable facts.

00:09:03.000 And it is also a fact, which was presented by Megyn Kelly, that a few weeks before his death,

00:09:07.140 Erica had a priest come over to pray over them when some witches thought it would be funny, whatever, to put a hex on him.

00:09:14.260 Okay.

00:09:15.260 That's a lot of things that were happening behind the scenes.

00:09:19.960 And the people at Turning Point USA knew those things to be true.

00:09:25.880 Okay.

00:09:26.440 They knew everything that I just shared with you.

00:09:28.620 They knew for a fact.

00:09:29.700 So I was a bit astonished when Andrew Colvett and Alex Clark similarly jumped in in this inauthentic attempt to dissuade the idea that Charlie was softening on Catholicism.

00:09:43.440 It read to me like just sheer hatred of Catholics for no reason at all.

00:09:46.800 Here's what they said.

00:09:47.420 I'll jog your memory.

00:09:48.020 I want you to listen to this.

00:09:49.080 Now in the context of all of the additional details that I just shared with you.

00:09:53.440 Okay.

00:09:53.860 Take a listen.

00:09:55.280 Was he becoming Catholic?

00:09:56.680 No.

00:09:57.840 But he really loved Catholic mass.

00:10:02.920 He loved the ritual of it.

00:10:05.660 He loved the beauty of old Catholic churches and the stained glass.

00:10:10.740 And him and Erica would go sometimes.

00:10:12.080 Yeah.

00:10:12.440 Well, Erica's a cradle Catholic, but she ended up kind of like me.

00:10:16.160 I grew up Catholic and first communion and went to Catholic high school.

00:10:20.740 But then I ended up becoming a Christian in college through a Protestant church through a non-denominational kind of more experience.

00:10:28.080 It was actually Presbyterian.

00:10:29.020 And then it was kind of non-denominational.

00:10:32.020 And I think Erica kind of follows that same path.

00:10:35.100 She and I share that.

00:10:35.800 Also, by the way, I just want to draw attention to she's posted a photo of her and Charlie and the kids in mass before.

00:10:41.580 And somebody in the comment section said, oh, are you guys converting?

00:10:44.160 And she said, no, we just like attending sometimes.

00:10:46.660 So she herself had said no.

00:10:48.000 Yeah.

00:10:48.020 And I think Charlie, one of the things, Charlie really hated worshiping in like a gym, you know, or some sort of kind of blank space that you just turn into church.

00:11:00.060 I don't, there's no problem.

00:11:01.820 He didn't have a problem with the act of that.

00:11:04.240 He just didn't prefer it.

00:11:05.300 And he loved, again, the ritual, the ancient, you know, feel of a Catholic mass and the fact that everybody around the world that was worshiping is Catholic.

00:11:16.000 He loved, he loved that.

00:11:18.640 So he had some really big theological hangups with that.

00:11:22.040 You can go check the videos out, him debating with Michael Knowles, you know, in good fun.

00:11:26.080 I mean, they were dear friends, but they loved kind of debating the whole Protestant versus Catholic thing.

00:11:30.160 Now, given everything that I've shared with you, does that conversation register as like totally and completely authentic or kind of trying to be like, yeah, no, like he loves the architecture of things.

00:11:42.420 But beyond that, nothing was happening.

00:11:45.400 Like, that's not that's not fully honest.

00:11:47.680 And it registered to me like a cover up of sorts.

00:11:51.160 And I was wondering, like, what are we exactly covering up?

00:11:53.100 Like, I wasn't going Catholic gang gang, wasn't trying to bring back a 30 years war.

00:11:57.500 I was just sharing the communications that I had with him.

00:12:00.860 And now I felt like suddenly so many people were racing to establish that his legacy was anything but Catholic, Catholic, right?

00:12:07.900 Like he was super de-duper Judeo-Christian. 0.73

00:12:11.480 And ironically, it was Judeo-Christianity that I was challenging him on personally, like privately.

00:12:17.360 And I was speaking to him about the political pressures of it, the way that I felt because of last year that it registered to me like more of a cult than a true theology or religion or a religious aspect, rather.

00:12:30.200 And it was back in February of this year when out of nowhere, he's the one that actually messaged me and said, I'm sorry, and said Catholicism is sounding better and better in February of 2024.

00:12:42.140 This is kind of when we started having that discussion, we should chat soon, Catholicism is looking better and better, okay? 0.93

00:12:47.720 I then offered back to him a chart just showing how the phrase Judeo-Christianity kind of is really associated with the dawn of the nation of Israel, right?

00:12:59.340 And we did chat about it.

00:13:00.240 We talked about it a lot.

00:13:01.720 And I was thrilled, like I said, and I was being honest that he was attending mass, okay?

00:13:05.760 But I want to, again, state that Charlie was not attending Rob McCoy's church.

00:13:10.560 He was attending mass, so it registered to me, again, as somewhat disingenuous when Pastor Rob McCoy came out and effectively asked me to, you know, stop looking into all of the things that happened in the lead-up to Charlie Kirk's assassination, or at least asking me to pause it, rather, would be more fair of an interpretation, until the memorial, right?

00:13:28.520 I'm going to jog your memory here.

00:13:30.020 Here is what Pastor Rob McCoy wrote on his Instagram after I exposed the now infamous Hamptons meeting, which took place.

00:13:38.580 He wrote this,

00:13:39.520 Charlie Kirk was my friend, and I was his pastor.

00:13:43.200 I want to simply say this regarding Candace Owens.

00:13:45.460 Charlie Kirk was a friend to Candace and never publicly spoke poorly of her, although he disagreed with her.

00:13:50.540 He never operated nor entertained gossip or innuendo concerning Candace.

00:13:54.700 My only comment I offer regarding Candace is this,

00:13:56.520 I only wish that at this tragic time of mourning she would be the friend to Charlie that he was to her.

00:14:01.360 He would never have treated Candace or her family in such a way had, God forbid, this tragedy been hers.

00:14:06.620 All friend loves, at all times, Proverbs.

00:14:09.480 Now, I want to be very clear.

00:14:10.420 If Charlie was a friend of mine, I sure hope if I was assassinated in front of the world that he would raise hell to figure out what actually took place in that day.

00:14:19.460 That's not being a friend.

00:14:20.440 A friend is not someone who stays silent when lies are being told by the federal government.

00:14:24.760 Again, emotionally manipulative.

00:14:27.900 The family can't have you finding out who actually killed him.

00:14:31.340 The family can't have you looking into those things of who was pressuring him behind the scenes.

00:14:35.660 That's just, that's not good for the family.

00:14:39.040 It bothers me.

00:14:40.000 I have to be honest with you.

00:14:40.820 That bothers me.

00:14:42.400 I don't even like that, to the untrained eye, he's kind of representing himself or representing Charlie as like a current congregant of his church.

00:14:50.740 I feel like a lot this year I have been feeling as though these pastors are just not as honest as they should be, right?

00:15:02.240 Is that the vibe?

00:15:02.720 Like a lot of pastors are not really so concerned with the truth is what I would say.

00:15:08.460 So we should zero in here on Rob and what his motivations might be, right?

00:15:13.380 Why did he decide to post this after I revealed that Hampton's meeting?

00:15:17.660 Well, you should know, I think most people do, that both his son and his daughter-in-law work for Turning Point USA.

00:15:23.320 So whether you want to represent that or not, they have a financial stake in the future of the company.

00:15:27.380 He heads up the faith division.

00:15:28.980 So Charlie's faith and what direction it was going into would actually matter, right?

00:15:35.120 It would actually matter if Charlie, and I never said he was going to, decided one day to become Catholic.

00:15:40.040 It would have financial implications.

00:15:42.920 I want to be clear, I never had a conversation that Charlie was in the process of converting, okay?

00:15:49.680 But Rob in particular knew for an absolute fact that Charlie was done with Israel bullying him.

00:15:56.840 That's what bothers me so much about this man.

00:15:59.340 Him allowing these headlines, Charlie's pastor speaks out, you know, crushes Candace because of what she said, not, not, whatever.

00:16:06.980 I don't like it.

00:16:08.660 He knew and others knew that Charlie was done with Israel bullying him. 0.51

00:16:13.440 And I am now going to present you proof of what I am saying.

00:16:16.780 This is an actual group chat, which happened two days before Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

00:16:21.480 There were nine people in total on this chat, including Charlie and Rob McCoy.

00:16:27.200 I'm going to protect the names of the other seven for now.

00:16:31.520 To be clear, I might actually release a name every day of this week.

00:16:34.500 But I want to show you this because suffice it to say, Rob McCoy was on this text thread.

00:16:39.860 And I think it helps contextualize him as a person, in my view, that he would attack me for telling the truth about the pressure that he was facing.

00:16:47.480 Take a look.

00:16:49.220 So Charlie writes in this group chat, just lost another huge Jewish donor.

00:16:53.360 Somebody writes, oh, Charlie writes, Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes.

00:17:06.720 I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.

00:17:14.740 And somebody writes, Sedona writes, please do not invite Candace.

00:17:19.640 That might feel good short term, but it's not good long term, in my opinion.

00:17:23.040 Like all groups, you're going to get a wide variety of opinions.

00:17:26.240 That nasty free will thing that God bestowed on us makes life frustrating at times after the dust settles a bit, maybe.

00:17:33.160 So again, this is 48 hours before Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

00:17:36.320 He was very clear and he was very explicit.

00:17:38.380 And he did not back down, not in that Hamptons meeting, which they're all lying about, nor in this text thread.

00:17:44.020 I'm not going to reveal the names of the other seven.

00:17:47.060 Actually, you know what?

00:17:47.800 I disagree with myself four seconds ago.

00:17:49.340 Let's just throw in Josh Hammer for funsies. 0.99

00:17:51.300 He's on this chat, okay?

00:17:53.900 So what are we to make of that?

00:17:55.680 Okay, now that I'm showing you this and showing to you that the conversations were real,

00:18:00.620 I want you to reflect.

00:18:01.880 And it took me a lot of patience to allow the lies that were being woven and the misrepresentations

00:18:05.560 of people that were pretending that I was just, what, high on lying about Charlie and the pressure

00:18:13.360 he was under, the attacks that not just me, Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly faced for trying

00:18:18.040 to stand up and tell the truth about what Charlie was actually going through.

00:18:21.940 Why are you hearing it, though, from me and Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly?

00:18:26.260 Isn't that weird?

00:18:26.780 You got people that are hosting a show.

00:18:28.600 Have they, in like one honorable thing, come out and said, like, you know what?

00:18:32.820 F a couple of these donors who made his life a living hell in the last couple of weeks. 0.86

00:18:38.580 Why haven't they done that?

00:18:42.440 Also, a rabbi in that chat, like, why hasn't anybody made that move to at least say, to vindicate

00:18:49.860 what I have been saying about what he was going through?

00:18:51.600 That registers to me as very suspicious.

00:18:55.980 I'm going to frankly say that.

00:18:57.800 It's suspicious to me.

00:18:58.940 It makes me think that in the same way that Charlie was being pressured by money, that

00:19:05.660 you might be now run by that same money, that those same donors might be running you to correct

00:19:11.240 the ship and to focus yourselves on eulogizing Charlie as something and someone that never

00:19:21.160 once flinched, never once for a single second doubted the Israeli cause.

00:19:28.220 Now they want us to suddenly believe the best way to honor Charlie is to shut up, the exact

00:19:34.860 opposite of what he quite literally laid down his life doing, answering questions, turning

00:19:42.460 points, answering the questions is what he was doing in the second that he died, okay?

00:19:48.860 And we all feel, we all are feeling spiritually the same way, so I'm just going to say it.

00:19:53.240 Because they're not grieving right, not up to us to decide how people grieve, but I will

00:19:58.220 say unequivocally that you shouldn't grieve by lying or by gaslighting.

00:20:02.640 Is that fair?

00:20:03.080 Can we all agree?

00:20:03.780 You should not grieve by lying and gaslighting the public.

00:20:08.520 They want us to believe that the only way that we can support and honor Charlie's legacy

00:20:13.020 is by donating our money.

00:20:14.340 But it would not be supportive for us to try to figure out who killed him and why the feds

00:20:21.000 are lying.

00:20:22.000 We should instead just trust the feds and excuse their little half-truths that they're

00:20:27.700 telling along the way.

00:20:28.520 Now, on that point, they keep trying to make it seem like it's completely normal that four 0.99

00:20:34.560 minutes after Charlie was shot, someone on their team nervously raced to grab the SD cards,

00:20:40.640 specifically from the camera that is behind Charlie's head, and that was because during

00:20:47.540 that time, I think it's like trying to make it normal that his instinct was to stand on

00:20:52.160 Charlie's chair to actually violate a crime scene, but also to mysteriously just grab the

00:20:59.160 SD card out of the camera, right?

00:21:01.940 Not only are they pretending that that was completely normal, but they're also presenting it as though

00:21:06.940 it was a heroic act.

00:21:08.880 It was like a forthright, clarified act to do in that moment, and that anyone who uses their

00:21:14.920 own eyes and sees it as maybe a little bit suspicious are just in the business of spinning

00:21:19.980 conspiracies.

00:21:20.660 Now, that's exactly what was communicated by Andrew Colvett when he sat across from Tucker

00:21:27.340 Carlson, who was hosting Charlie's show, and gratefully, Tucker Carlson instantly responded

00:21:31.880 with a much more sensible approach.

00:21:35.340 Take a listen.

00:21:35.760 By the way, just one other conspiracy theory I just want to snuff out here.

00:21:40.560 One of our dear friends that literally from the very beginning started with us and loved

00:21:48.080 Charlie like a brother, he grabbed the SD cards out of the camera afterwards, and there's

00:21:54.880 all these conspiracy videos about, why did he grab the SD cards?

00:21:58.480 Well, first of all, they're in the possession of the FBI, okay?

00:22:02.380 It's not like he took them and ran off with them.

00:22:04.240 Second of all, I asked him personally, I said, why did you do that?

00:22:08.260 And he looked at me, and this was his answer.

00:22:10.000 He said, because I know people can be evil, and he did not want that footage being grabbed

00:22:16.420 by somebody.

00:22:17.140 There was videos of people after the incident going and stealing hats off the table.

00:22:21.300 I mean, so I'm so grateful he did that, and that that was his instinct.

00:22:26.840 He's like, I'm depressed to know that that was why I did that, but I knew that I had to

00:22:31.580 protect that footage because I wanted...

00:22:33.800 I mean, you know, you're recording in like 4K, you know?

00:22:36.180 And so I'm so glad he did that, but Charlie knew the existence of evil, and so...

00:22:41.600 Well, can I just say, I think that people can feel the existence of evil, and that just

00:22:44.960 to put in a sympathetic word for people who are trying to make sense of this and coming

00:22:48.620 to the wrong conclusions, I think they're motivated, for the most part, by pure intent.

00:22:53.780 I think they don't trust the authorities.

00:22:56.040 They have every reason to feel that way.

00:22:57.740 I know that for a fact.

00:22:58.740 Not the Trump administration, in general, like, we're not, you know, there's been a

00:23:02.720 lot of lying, and it's corroded the trust.

00:23:05.440 That's not their fault, actually.

00:23:06.980 They're the victims of it.

00:23:07.780 That's a good point.

00:23:08.100 Thank you for saying that.

00:23:10.260 Yeah, thank you, Tucker, for saying that, and this is the reason why Tucker is so big,

00:23:13.860 because he has this perspective.

00:23:16.020 He understands, like, what the average person is thinking here, and the average person looks

00:23:18.940 at that, and I think it's shady, and, you know, saying that there was this heart-wrenching

00:23:22.960 moment where you were worried because people were stealing stuff on the table, but also you

00:23:27.320 took the SD card out and not the very expensive camera, which is if you were worried about

00:23:31.180 stealing and theft, maybe you would take the camera, but more importantly there is he says

00:23:36.260 that the feds, that he gave it to the feds, right?

00:23:40.160 Now, he doesn't insinuate, obviously, that they don't have the footage.

00:23:43.480 Turning Point does have the footage.

00:23:44.680 That's very clear.

00:23:45.380 I saw partially the footage, which means it made it back home, or maybe they had it back

00:23:49.580 home because they were recording it live, whatever it is.

00:23:53.280 It was being live-streamed.

00:23:54.760 But what he said actually conflicts with what Tyler Boyer is about to say, what he said over

00:24:01.080 this weekend, okay?

00:24:02.860 Tyler Boyer, like I said, he's a COO of Turning Point Action, and he went on this kind of bender,

00:24:08.020 worst kind of bender, Twitter bender, defending the organization. 0.92

00:24:11.080 He thought he was defending them against public sentiments, during which time he refutes what

00:24:16.360 Andrew Colvett is saying about the SD cards.

00:24:18.780 Andrew says the Turning Point employee was worried about theft, but Tyler says that actually

00:24:22.760 he was instructed to secure the SD cards before the campus went on to lockdown.

00:24:29.080 Now, here's the tweet, so I can show you that.

00:24:31.060 Somebody said, rightfully, emotional manipulation and falsely equating scrutiny as some form of

00:24:36.180 hate speech is not going to work here.

00:24:38.320 You and Colvett admitted that the staff tampered with cameras and the most crucial video evidence

00:24:43.580 in the largest political assassination in decades.

00:24:45.900 Hiding makes him look guilty.

00:24:47.760 And Tyler countered, dude did not tamper with anything.

00:24:50.500 Yes, he did.

00:24:50.900 It's a crime scene.

00:24:52.300 The law enforcement officers asked them to turn them over immediately so they didn't

00:24:57.600 get lost in commotion before they took everyone into lockdown.

00:25:01.700 Now, that is just not true.

00:25:03.260 That is not true.

00:25:03.820 What Tyler was saying is not true.

00:25:05.260 I spoke to that Turning Point individual, as I told you, and he never once mentioned that

00:25:11.040 police officers, I explicitly asked him, why did you take the SD cards out specifically

00:25:17.120 of the camera behind and the answer that I was given, which sounded more like what Andrew

00:25:21.960 Colvett said.

00:25:23.020 You know, I was emotional.

00:25:24.500 I knew that Charlie was dead.

00:25:26.940 And my instinct, he told me, was to take, make sure that I secured the footage so that

00:25:32.440 Erica would not have to see it again.

00:25:35.320 Like, he didn't want Erica to have to see it and have to relive it.

00:25:38.260 That is what he said to me on the phone.

00:25:40.100 Nothing about police officers.

00:25:41.460 No one's ever heard police officers asked them to secure the footage before lockdown

00:25:45.580 until Tyler Boyer tweeted this weekend.

00:25:47.500 I don't like it.

00:25:48.380 OK, I just don't like it.

00:25:50.140 Now, to be fair, Tyler is making it clear that he is responding to all of these tweets

00:25:56.840 or exes, whatever you're supposed to call them, because there have been people, he says,

00:26:01.860 that have flat out accused the organization of having a hand in Charlie's murder.

00:26:05.780 He doesn't share when or where exactly that happened.

00:26:09.460 I think people...

00:26:11.460 Feel you're being dishonorable by not questioning the narrative, but I don't, I don't, I haven't

00:26:15.300 read anybody that's explicitly accused them of murder.

00:26:19.000 In fact, the tweets that he's responding to all seem to be pretty fair, in my opinion,

00:26:25.260 you know.

00:26:26.420 Now, regarding the missing campus footage, there is a user that begged Tyler to file an FOIA

00:26:34.680 request, and that user wrote this.

00:26:36.980 Please, I beg you, focus on getting the security footage of the sequence pre-jump off the Losey

00:26:43.500 building, where we can see Robinson in shot position and corroborate the story.

00:26:48.960 Like, file an FOIA, get that footage, keep it simple.

00:26:53.440 And he responds and he says, guys, there's camera footage all over that campus that the

00:26:57.600 police have, plus all the cameras that we had.

00:27:00.360 They likely won't release it until the trial.

00:27:03.260 Now, there's just one problem with that narrative, right?

00:27:06.680 If they have all this footage and they're just not releasing it because they just want to,

00:27:09.640 what, they're just worried about the trial, they want to make sure they win the trial.

00:27:13.180 What's wrong with that narrative is the manhunt that took place.

00:27:17.560 If, indeed, they have tons of footage from all these different angles and some of it in 4K,

00:27:22.660 which they do, this is why we've been saying the Feds are lying from day one,

00:27:26.920 then the first time that that footage should have been deployed was during the 33-hour manhunt,

00:27:32.420 right?

00:27:32.700 Why didn't they release more footage at that time, right?

00:27:35.580 If they were actually interested in catching the killer, why only release a blurry image when

00:27:42.680 there is, as he mentioned, footage everywhere, all over that campus, every inch?

00:27:47.980 Are we supposed to honestly believe at that time their thought process in the middle of

00:27:51.320 a manhunt was, well, let's not release too much except for a blurry image because I know

00:27:56.400 we don't have him, but in case we do have him, when we do get him, we want to make sure

00:28:00.040 that we are able to try him by not releasing footage, which makes no sense, by the way.

00:28:08.240 And I think this is what happens when a company loses their, as South Park ribbed him, master

00:28:14.820 debater, right?

00:28:15.740 What they're saying does not make sense.

00:28:17.460 These people could not win in college campus debates without Charlie, okay?

00:28:21.160 Because the reality is, if releasing footage, okay, if releasing clear footage of what happened

00:28:29.000 on that day means that you are going to lose in court, that it probably signifies that the

00:28:38.860 person that you are trying to bring to court didn't do it.

00:28:43.320 And if they're somehow vindicated by the footage, if you're like, I released the footage of him

00:28:46.940 jumping down on the center and I show him firing the shot, but like that totally vindicates

00:28:52.240 him, then you got the wrong guy, right?

00:28:54.900 Having more footage, examining more footage, and examining more evidence should further

00:29:01.340 incriminate Tyler Robinson.

00:29:03.940 It should also go a very long way in getting people off of these quote-unquote conspiracies.

00:29:09.960 Common sense is what I said from the beginning.

00:29:11.560 Release the footage, which you do have in your possession.

00:29:14.880 It's not like just the feds have this footage.

00:29:16.720 Release the footage because then people will move on from quote-unquote conspiracies.

00:29:23.360 So everything they're saying right now doesn't make sense.

00:29:27.760 And they're not smarter than the public, right?

00:29:31.140 And Turning Point is not going to survive this sort of an attitude, name-calling, threats

00:29:35.900 to sue, calling people demonic, possessed by demonic spirits because they're rightfully 0.90

00:29:42.260 asking questions of the most high-profile political assassination since JFK.

00:29:47.060 It's just not going to work.

00:29:49.280 Free PR advice.

00:29:50.960 It is not going to work.

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00:33:35.000 All right, you guys.

00:33:35.580 So how are we supposed to honor Charlie, right?

00:33:39.300 You honor Charlie, of course, by donating a Turning Point USA and shutting up and trusting

00:33:45.300 the feds.

00:33:45.940 Don't question anything because it's just not right or whatever.

00:33:49.600 You shouldn't even question the things that Charlie was questioning, right?

00:33:53.360 The spin is in.

00:33:55.660 I got really annoyed last night going through.

00:33:58.580 Somebody tagged me and said, you see Alex Clark posted and tried to make it seem like

00:34:03.020 I lied about the new Doze department when I literally shared the email from Charlie.

00:34:07.720 They're even using this kind of like, I call it Christian slop, okay? 1.00

00:34:13.720 Because what they're serving up to you is, well, if you're a good Christian, you shouldn't

00:34:18.820 do this.

00:34:19.320 Like they're kind of saying, it's demonic.

00:34:22.100 You're possessed by a demon.

00:34:23.660 If you want to pursue truth, said literally no one ever but Satan incarnate, okay?

00:34:31.160 Truth is truth.

00:34:32.820 It is always appropriate.

00:34:34.460 Another one of these talking points that are coming out is people are doing this for clicks.

00:34:40.300 They're motivated by money.

00:34:42.700 Do you guys understand the tens of millions of dollars that Turning Point USA made in the

00:34:47.520 two weeks following Charlie Kirk's assassination?

00:34:48.820 It is, it would be insane for a person to suggest that if a random guy on YouTube catches a million

00:34:58.020 views discussing ballistics, which there have been many gun guys who have done videos on

00:35:02.360 ballistics and caught a million views, that that's somehow immoral because they're maybe

00:35:05.560 going to make $10,000 if they keep that up for an entire month.

00:35:09.340 Like that is insane.

00:35:10.900 And it actually relies on financial literacy to think that that's immoral.

00:35:15.160 Good for them.

00:35:16.440 Good for them.

00:35:17.200 If you have a small account and you somehow got a million views because you told the truth,

00:35:23.580 then bless you, okay?

00:35:25.360 Don't let them shame you.

00:35:27.140 You're doing it for clicks.

00:35:28.460 Oh, no, their account talks about ballistics all the time.

00:35:31.120 This is now just a political assassination, the most high profile ever, and people want

00:35:35.040 to understand every aspect.

00:35:36.260 So we're clicking and we're watching these individuals that look like they know what they're

00:35:39.600 talking about, especially in the absence of any truth coming from the quote unquote

00:35:45.880 authorities.

00:35:47.200 So what are we supposed to believe?

00:35:50.120 That the more moral thing would be for us to behave like Turning Point USA employees?

00:35:57.980 You know, Alex Clark calling me out, are you kidding me?

00:35:59.840 Should I do what she did?

00:36:01.380 It would have been more moral for me to invite the Wall Street Journal a literal week after

00:36:08.120 Charlie is murdered to photograph me in high boots standing over his memorial site at the

00:36:14.260 office, like the outside memorial vigil where people mourn and drop off flowers and gifts

00:36:19.660 because that's exactly what Alex Clark did.

00:36:21.420 And I thought it was icky.

00:36:22.380 I thought it was gross.

00:36:23.340 I didn't say anything because everybody mourns in their own way.

00:36:25.440 But I got to stop saying that I got to stop saying everybody grieves in their own way.

00:36:28.660 This is the article that was published on September 18th.

00:36:31.960 So we can assume that they at least photographed her one day and interviewed her one day earlier.

00:36:36.680 Right.

00:36:36.960 That's being charitable.

00:36:39.000 So this was done latest again one week after Charlie was assassinated.

00:36:42.480 Again, take a look at this.

00:36:43.820 Pull that up.

00:36:44.280 I'm going to pull this photo up because I just want to look at the photo.

00:36:46.700 This is literally her being shot in front of the gifts that people are dropping off for Charlie.

00:36:55.060 But maybe it's Photoshop doesn't look like it is to me.

00:36:57.480 Even if it was Photoshopped, I would be losing my mind.

00:37:01.780 I don't understand how anyone would let this go out and think that it's okay if they knew Charlie.

00:37:07.760 I couldn't even speak to the press that week.

00:37:09.900 I still haven't spoken to the press about Charlie Kirk, actually.

00:37:11.920 I haven't even given one interview about Charlie Kirk because it felt icky to me.

00:37:16.200 I'm just focused on investigating his murder.

00:37:18.440 Anyways, I want to read a little blurb from this article.

00:37:23.220 Again, published September 18th.

00:37:25.080 Alex Clark was about to head to the airport for a work trip to celebrate the first anniversary of her podcast when she heard the news.

00:37:33.580 Her boss, Charlie Kirk, had been shot.

00:37:36.540 She says, quote,

00:37:37.260 The very first thought that popped into my head was, I'm so glad that Charlie knew Jesus, said Clark, 32, who hosts the Maha-friendly podcast, Culture Apothecary, Returning Point USA.

00:37:47.160 The second thought was, what will happen now?

00:37:50.000 And the third thought was, thank God Trump is president.

00:38:02.380 I don't know.

00:38:07.700 You?

00:38:08.800 People around the world didn't even know Charlie.

00:38:11.320 Okay.

00:38:12.280 Third thought, thank God Trump is president.

00:38:14.600 Like MAGA?

00:38:15.120 Did you go MAGA?

00:38:15.920 That you go, like, I'm glad he knows the Lord.

00:38:18.100 And then MAGA.

00:38:21.160 What are we missing here?

00:38:22.300 What, what, like, does that feel okay at all?

00:38:25.520 Goes on to say she praises the FBI director, Cash Patel, and his deputy, Dan Bongino, for their leadership in the hunt for the suspect.

00:38:34.000 What's so crazy is that we have them in office because of Charlie, Clark said.

00:38:37.380 So, honor the feds, quick pick outside, and also MAGA, MAGA hard.

00:38:46.660 That is like, I'm sorry, I get it.

00:38:49.100 Everybody grieves differently.

00:38:50.860 Okay.

00:38:52.540 But not that way.

00:38:53.680 The last thought that I had as I spent days crying, okay, had difficulty physically pulling myself out of bed, felt like I was being a bad mother, was, man, I'm sure glad Donald Trump is president.

00:39:09.140 MAGA.

00:39:09.580 I didn't feel that way.

00:39:10.460 Didn't feel that way.

00:39:10.880 In fact, I was angry.

00:39:12.120 I remember feeling angry when Trump moved to kind of, like, do a same-time post, Bibi Netanyahu, and then, like, publishes a picture of Charlie with an Israeli flag behind.

00:39:23.220 I was pretty angry about that.

00:39:24.660 I thought, yuck, that's gross.

00:39:26.760 Have you no dignity and respect?

00:39:28.740 Post a picture of him with his family, you know?

00:39:31.300 Trying to, like, already sow seeds into people's minds that, like, no, he, like, kind of died for Israel, loved Israel so much.

00:39:39.260 This would be appropriate, especially in the context of the message I just read to you.

00:39:42.200 It was gross.

00:39:44.120 But anyways, I just, I don't know why.

00:39:46.740 I don't know why, but the people that are critiquing us for investigating the murder are not critiquing themselves and not holding a mirror to themselves.

00:39:54.180 Anyways, Alex has decided to share a total half-truth PR spin on another tweet from Tyler Boyer where he responds to someone asking about Charlie establishing a Doge department.

00:40:04.300 Again, we presented that to the public.

00:40:05.800 We showed the internal email, the internal memo that went out.

00:40:09.480 It was Charlie in his own words.

00:40:10.780 We showed the whole email.

00:40:12.400 I didn't read the paragraph where he announced that Justin Strife would be the COO, but we read the entirety related to the Doge department.

00:40:19.060 And here's what Tyler says about that.

00:40:20.540 He says,

00:40:20.820 She took a sentence and made something up.

00:40:27.280 TPUSA doesn't audit every year, always has.

00:40:29.860 Charlie constantly look for ways to make everything we do more efficient.

00:40:33.220 That's TPUSA.

00:40:34.380 It operates eight times more effectively than any other similar operation.

00:40:38.340 So what did I make up when I shared an email and Charlie said he wanted to establish a new Doge department?

00:40:44.480 Why would he call it new if he was doing it every year?

00:40:46.640 And wow, what foresight you had as a company that's been around for like 10 years or more, maybe more 10 years that you were doing Doge since the beginning?

00:40:56.120 No, you're conflating and it's dishonest.

00:40:58.180 It's dishonest.

00:40:58.660 The audit has F all, okay, F all to do with Doge.

00:41:04.620 The audit is what 501c3s are instructed to do, get an independent auditor and audit yourselves or else the IRS will hound you.

00:41:11.840 Now, when you are auditing yourselves, I will guarantee you the Clinton Foundation audited themselves annually.

00:41:17.580 That does not mean that there is not corruption.

00:41:19.960 It does not mean it means that you're doing things that are above board.

00:41:22.900 From a government perspective, it does not mean that within your own organization there is not corruption.

00:41:27.660 That is the reason for a Doge department, at least according to what Elon Musk said.

00:41:33.260 Nobody, when he established Doge with Vivek Ramaswamy, was thinking that he was going in there because he was going to see if they're violating the IRS laws.

00:41:42.580 No, I think he went in there to see wasteful spending and to see where the money was going, where our tax dollars was going.

00:41:48.580 That's the vibe I got.

00:41:50.420 So they're relying on us to be, again, financially illiterate, to not understand how it works.

00:41:55.160 I shared a 501c3 lawyer with them.

00:41:59.000 So I met her in her offices with Charlie and she explained the reasons why she said that you've got to get an independent auditor.

00:42:06.280 I actually think that for organizations of a certain size, you're required by law to do an annual audit if you're 501c3.

00:42:13.240 I think it's state by state that guides that.

00:42:14.880 But to present this like this means we're above board, I have a feeling some people are going to die on that sword.

00:42:20.920 Because the reality is, is that big companies, inevitably, you will find corruption.

00:42:25.500 And I'm hearing some stuff, okay?

00:42:28.040 A lot of contractors, that's something that you can do.

00:42:30.440 As just one example, that's completely illegal, but utterly immoral, is if you're outsourcing all of the millions of dollars to contractors and you're getting kickbacks.

00:42:39.280 That's just one example, okay?

00:42:41.660 So I take money from donors and then I show that I'm paying out to a contractor who doesn't work for Turning Point USA, but that contractor is then somehow paying me back.

00:42:54.020 That would be something that wouldn't flag the IRS, but then would flag a CEO and a Doge department if they started looking at where the money was spending.

00:43:03.320 I hope that clarifies matters.

00:43:04.640 Now, shifting gears only slightly, I don't often or really ever speak about my faith journey, right?

00:43:09.960 Because I'm still on it.

00:43:11.460 And I don't want to make a mistake or be wrong.

00:43:14.200 And in many ways, I kind of feel like this pressure that I don't want to let Catholics down because I don't know everything.

00:43:19.000 And I prefer the people that have been Catholic forever to speak on things as I'm still a student.

00:43:22.760 But I do want to say that a major clue for me that being non-denominational was no longer working for me happened because of things politically.

00:43:35.120 When I tried to express certain questions about the modern state of Israel and was instead met with what I can only describe as cult-like behavior.

00:43:43.500 You're seeing it right now, right?

00:43:45.280 Judeo-Christian after Judeo-Christian making videos.

00:43:47.920 It's like cult-like behavior.

00:43:49.420 You can't leave, right?

00:43:50.800 There's only one way out of here.

00:43:52.760 People quoting scripture to actually fulfill what became quite obvious to me was just their political lens.

00:44:02.060 And yeah, people taking money to do that. 0.90

00:44:04.260 Keeping it above bar.

00:44:05.440 It's not illegal.

00:44:06.840 But you are taking money.

00:44:07.940 You're taking free trips.

00:44:08.840 So what are your motives here? 0.67

00:44:10.720 If you're citing scripture to defend the actions of Bibi Netanyahu, you're a fraud. 0.99

00:44:13.680 Of course, you're a fraud. 0.97

00:44:14.660 And if you're accepting money to do that in the process, you're worse than a fraud. 0.97

00:44:19.060 Anyways, I want to show you guys this clip that someone sent me.

00:44:21.280 This was a sermon which was given by a pastor on September 21st, 2025.

00:44:28.640 Now, it's not necessary to name the Judeo-Christian pastor, right?

00:44:32.500 I'm never trying to put any fire on them because I actually think what they're doing is important.

00:44:37.800 Because I find out about all of these sermons because their congregants are sending them to me, right?

00:44:43.220 They've got the CIA in their own congregation and people are going, and I stopped attending that day because I realized something's not right here.

00:44:51.220 I want you to listen to this pastor's words because you might, too, feel similarly inspired to recognize that something is wrong.

00:44:59.220 And I want to also be clear here.

00:45:00.320 It's not every pastor.

00:45:01.180 It's going to be fair for me to say that.

00:45:02.480 But pastors that have a very strong political bent, something's not right there, all right?

00:45:08.720 Now, to tee this up, the title of his sermon is, What Has Defiled You?

00:45:13.960 And he has decided for this particular sermon to pull from Paul's letter to the Corinthians.

00:45:18.860 And that specific biblical passage that he cites is chapter 7, verse 1, and it reads, the Bible reads,

00:45:26.120 Therefore, beloved, since we have these promises, let us cleanse ourselves from everything that defiles body and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

00:45:37.260 Now, you don't need to be a priest or a pastor to think right now about what you might perceive is the point of that passage.

00:45:50.340 Probably thinking through it.

00:45:51.580 Yeah, yeah, it's important.

00:45:53.220 Body, spirit.

00:45:56.440 Probably not what you're thinking right now is that this has something to do with Megyn Kelly.

00:46:00.940 You're probably not thinking Paul wrote this letter to the Corinthians because there's a point that he wants to prove about Megyn Kelly.

00:46:05.700 But he's going to get there.

00:46:07.760 That's how this pastor's going to get there.

00:46:08.980 He's going to explain that.

00:46:09.740 Take a listen.

00:46:10.820 Why am I bringing this up?

00:46:11.960 Because I was watching an interview with Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly, and this is what they said.

00:46:16.880 Everyone under 30 in America is against Israel.

00:46:22.720 The older generation's not.

00:46:25.240 Because we've seen the Six-Day War in 1967. 0.97

00:46:29.140 There wasn't a narrative that was so prevalent right now with foolish people that are so deceived, like a Candace Owens and like a Nick Fuentes. 0.93

00:46:38.360 And young people are eating that up, and they're changing their philosophy on what these people say. 0.97

00:46:43.280 That do not base your ideology unless somebody has a Bible open.

00:46:49.960 That is where your ideology comes from.

00:46:55.240 You're going to be like that tree-hugging hippie mom that I'm trying to save her kids from being bitten by a rattlesnake and dying, and she's all worried about some habitat when she knows she's not welcoming in rattlesnakes in her home.

00:47:11.600 And our ideologies, when we really, really think about them, they've been formed by a society that is not basing everything they believe out of the Word of God.

00:47:22.080 And I challenge you today, if I've said anything that you don't think is right, bring your Bible and show me.

00:47:32.080 Because if I'm wrong, I want to know.

00:47:36.820 Challenge accepted.

00:47:39.060 Challenge accepted.

00:47:39.580 I really, like, look, far be it from me.

00:47:43.820 I'm not a seminarian.

00:47:44.800 I really don't think that is what Paul, I just don't, I don't think it was about Nick Fuentes.

00:47:52.520 Call me crazy.

00:47:53.940 I know you guys do on Sundays.

00:47:56.060 But I don't think it was about Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens and the modern, modern created state of Israel. 0.66

00:48:04.900 Again, I could be wrong.

00:48:06.340 I'm open, like you, to being incorrect.

00:48:10.200 But it's just like, there's something that is so fundamentally disgusting.

00:48:14.000 And I hope you guys agree about using the Bible to justify your own personal rants, using the Bible to justify why you're attacking somebody, preaching a sermon.

00:48:29.140 Like, just start a podcast.

00:48:30.480 You can be like me, right?

00:48:31.940 I'm not sitting here going, turn your Bible here and you are, you know, defile and blah, blah, blah. 0.99

00:48:37.660 And what this really means is like that turning point is like that's, there's something so incredibly evil about that.

00:48:46.960 He has a quick second here when he wraps up his points about me that I want to get to because I'm starting to realize I don't even think he knows what defile means, actually.

00:48:55.320 Take a listen.

00:48:55.780 You need to go to the Lord and say, what has defiled me?

00:49:00.380 Hopefully, some of you that have been defiled with the nation of Israel, because you've been in an echo chamber of Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens, that defilement has now come off of you. 0.85

00:49:13.140 And you're going to block them because they're anti what scripture says, what defiles you, what defiles you.

00:49:28.300 So I think what he is saying that if I'm being charitable here, he's suggesting like you'll somehow be saved if you block me on Insta.

00:49:39.320 What is this?

00:49:40.560 Actually, what is that?

00:49:44.920 I'll tell you what it is.

00:49:46.100 It's completely heretical in a theological sense, but it's also unhinged.

00:49:52.340 It's just unhinged. 0.57

00:49:53.340 He looks unhinged.

00:49:54.560 It's like he it's like so much relies on him getting this point across.

00:49:58.300 So he just like opens his Bible, points to a verse and just throws it up and says whatever he wants to.

00:50:03.480 He's basically me on like aim when I was in the eighth grade, picking out quotes from like, you know, whatever those quote websites are and just like throwing it on my away message.

00:50:16.700 There's no rhyme or reason that he's doing this feeling that he has and he wants to express it and justify it using a quote without its context or even understanding of why that quote was said or why the biblical passage was written.

00:50:28.540 It's wrong and it's also deranged.

00:50:31.340 Everything that's happening right now to continue to justify what the state of Israel is doing, the modern state of Israel is doing, which has nothing to do with the ancient Israel, the biblical Israel is they are now trying to censor us, trying to control our speech. 0.86

00:50:47.280 They are murdering children.

00:50:48.420 And so the more that you defend this and that you pretend that this is what God wants, the more that you will expose yourself, right?

00:50:56.160 The more that you expose yourself.

00:50:57.820 Even this headline is crazy.

00:51:00.040 This this this came out that like their tick tock, which we covered this before, the moderation team, like IDF soldiers and Bibi Netanyahu saying we're taking over tick tock.

00:51:11.460 My agents are going to get that in a purchase.

00:51:13.640 That's what needs to happen so that we can win announcing essentially psychological warfare on on the American people because they don't think we can think for ourselves and decide who we want to follow on X all by ourselves.

00:51:25.460 Apparently, they're going to ban the juice box emoji, right?

00:51:29.660 Because people because they can't talk about the modern state of Israel have been using like at the apple juice because juice can sound like juice.

00:51:36.880 And so they're now moderating that.

00:51:38.740 And I will say this, that's going to be funny because it's just it's going to be a game like Whack-A-Mole.

00:51:44.720 And all we can do is laugh at it because these people are savvy.

00:51:48.140 These tick tockers are like they're pretty savvy on the Internet. 1.00

00:51:51.220 They're going to be so they're going to be announcing like let's use this emoji instead.

00:51:55.260 From now on, this represents the modern state of Israel.

00:51:57.740 And before you know it, there's going to be no emojis that are allowed on tick tock.

00:52:01.960 Actually, it would be funny.

00:52:02.800 The funniest thing that they could possibly do right now is every time you want to talk about Israel on tick tock. 0.69

00:52:09.240 Use the term tick tock and see if tick tock will ban tick tock from tick tock.

00:52:14.580 That's how we went.

00:52:15.460 Like if that happens, we win.

00:52:17.900 OK, we get to laugh forever that we made tick tock ban tick tock because tick tock is actually code.

00:52:23.240 Raise real.

00:52:24.280 The modern state of tick tock.

00:52:26.360 That's what I want you guys to do because that would just be funny.

00:52:28.060 And we have to actually have fun because it's getting so crazy.

00:52:31.560 We have to actually have fun and continue to smile and laugh and to be happy warriors for truth because Charlie always believed in being a happy warrior.

00:52:39.000 That is that is just a fact.

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00:56:01.160 Cameras Owens.

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00:56:04.020 Somebody wrote me a message and was like,

00:56:05.400 Candace, you said your name wrong.

00:56:06.740 They missed the Operation Mocking Pastor joke. 0.98

00:56:09.880 Cameras Owens is my pastor stage name when they're talking trash about me.

00:56:15.080 I actually love that so much.

00:56:16.640 All right, let's get into some of your comments.

00:56:18.360 What is on your mind?

00:56:19.120 I'm going to be in so much trouble, man.

00:56:21.080 I'm going to get off here, airwaves, and be like, she's not, she is just, yeah, I'm there.

00:56:26.660 I'm there now.

00:56:27.360 I just don't like it.

00:56:28.100 I just, not getting the right vibe.

00:56:29.980 I know everybody else feels it too.

00:56:31.660 And I'm just really tired of these influencers making the videos.

00:56:35.020 They're all saying the same thing in a different way. 0.95

00:56:37.020 I think we're dumb and like, it's all happening organically. 0.98

00:56:40.840 It's like, it's just tiresome. 0.99

00:56:43.240 It's really tiresome.

00:56:44.340 So if I have a take on everybody so we can get some truth, then that's what it is.

00:56:48.820 That's just what it is.

00:56:49.780 Jennifer Murchison writes, praying for your safety, Candace.

00:56:52.500 Keep digging, please.

00:56:53.240 You are onto something.

00:56:54.080 We need truth.

00:56:55.180 Thank you, Jennifer.

00:56:56.020 That is a massive donation.

00:56:58.200 I really, really appreciate that.

00:56:59.920 All of you guys that have been donating to the show to support us, like I just want you

00:57:02.500 know, like we really appreciate it and we see it.

00:57:04.140 And Melissa Forberk, similarly, a really nice donation here, spent the weekend researching

00:57:09.140 the Kabbalah.

00:57:10.180 It was to say the absolute least terrifying.

00:57:13.540 Thank you.

00:57:14.620 Yes, it is very important.

00:57:16.140 Of course, if you are in my book club, we're about to really get into it, by the way.

00:57:19.080 Tomorrow we start the book, which they don't want to resell, which is crazy.

00:57:24.680 I don't know where David Bakan's children are, the author of the book.

00:57:28.660 He is Jewish himself.

00:57:29.780 But I'm just wanting to know that you're being like they're blocking money from you.

00:57:33.460 They don't want the public to read this book, which you can download and find it online

00:57:37.660 for free.

00:57:38.180 But like still, it's pretty crazy that they are now realizing people are catching on

00:57:41.860 that book.

00:57:42.960 We'll dive into the Kabbalah. 0.94

00:57:45.300 It's very important to know.

00:57:46.500 Similarly, like I've said from the beginning, we have different denominations within Christianity.

00:57:50.340 That's kind of what this whole episode has been about.

00:57:51.960 I don't know why one like I don't know why so many evangelicals have such vitriol for

00:57:56.800 Catholics.

00:57:57.460 The feeling is not mutual.

00:57:58.480 Genuinely, the feeling is not mutual on the Catholic side or on the Orthodox side.

00:58:02.840 And so it's interesting to say the least.

00:58:04.980 But similarly, within Judaism, there are different sects.

00:58:08.260 There just are.

00:58:09.300 And we don't realize that.

00:58:10.420 We don't know what they believe in.

00:58:11.880 We just go, oh, well, it's Judaism. 0.92

00:58:12.980 It's just, you know, it's the Pentateuch, the first five books of the Bible.

00:58:15.460 No.

00:58:16.680 There's also the Talmud.

00:58:17.940 There's also the Kabbalah.

00:58:19.040 And to just not actually study and understand all of those differences, it makes us extremely 0.92

00:58:25.540 ignorant and very likely to be indoctrinated into one of those religions, convinced that

00:58:30.460 it's actually modern science, which is what's actually happening. 0.99

00:58:33.460 I think we kind of live in a Kabbalist society more than anything else.

00:58:37.440 And I think that this book that we're going to read will help you get there.

00:58:39.980 We really have.

00:58:41.100 We go there in the book club.

00:58:42.360 We go there.

00:58:43.160 And so if you'd like to join the book club, we're starting a new book tomorrow.

00:58:46.640 Tomorrow will be an introduction to that book.

00:58:49.020 We will wrap up this last book that we read, which is similarly terrifying, which is the

00:58:52.300 assault on truth.

00:58:53.980 These scales will fall from your eyes if you read the assault on truth to understand how

00:58:58.340 they will lie to protect the most evil people in the entire world.

00:59:02.220 You have to destroy your belief system about Sigmund Freud.

00:59:07.060 And then you're ready to learn about what Sigmund Freud actually, what his major contribution

00:59:10.880 was.

00:59:11.440 And that's the book we're diving into next.

00:59:14.120 Sigmund Freud and the Jewish Mystical Tradition is the name of that book by David Bacan that

00:59:18.140 we will be starting on tomorrow's book club.

00:59:21.020 Lauren writes, Lauren Houlin writes, you mentioned the suspicious way so many of the individuals

00:59:25.240 surrounding Charlie's case are new to their role.

00:59:28.780 I live in Dallas and I noticed after the ICE shooting that Daniel Comeau, the Dallas

00:59:33.220 police chief, is new to the role.

00:59:35.040 As of April, we are all being lied to.

00:59:36.500 Yeah, it's almost like they're like actors.

00:59:38.200 You know what I mean?

00:59:39.060 You're going to just play the role of sheriff when we do this thing.

00:59:40.900 You're going to play the role of this and everyone's going to be so new.

00:59:43.760 It's pretty lame.

00:59:44.860 It is pretty lame.

00:59:45.900 Again, questions we're allowed to ask them.

00:59:49.840 Exposed to Truth writes, I have been a Catholic my whole life and attended a non-denominational

00:59:53.540 church once and found it to be cringy like that pastor that you showed the video of.

00:59:57.960 Keep fighting for truth.

00:59:58.780 I'm sure Charlie is cheering you on from heaven, praying for you.

01:00:01.680 You know, actually, to tell you how emotional I was after Charlie's death, it was really

01:00:05.840 just not myself, obviously.

01:00:07.840 But I was upset.

01:00:08.860 I was almost upset with my priest.

01:00:11.180 Because I went on Sunday and I expected him to like say something about Charlie Kirk,

01:00:13.640 which is not what he should be doing.

01:00:16.520 Like you can dedicate a mass to somebody, but he didn't say anything about Charlie Kirk.

01:00:19.060 And I was like, oh, like I don't like that.

01:00:20.880 And then now that I've removed from that, I actually appreciate that.

01:00:24.100 Like that is what I actually find that I love about the Catholic religion is like there's

01:00:27.360 not there's no political bent there.

01:00:29.380 Like that is what I love.

01:00:30.080 And I attend, you know, the Latin mass.

01:00:32.560 And I what I was upset with, I now really appreciate in the retrospect that, you know,

01:00:39.240 there's no drop of politicism when you're in the room.

01:00:44.140 Jennifer Barney writes, I admire you so much.

01:00:45.640 It's easy to drop something and go with the flow.

01:00:47.580 Don't drop this.

01:00:48.300 Something is not right.

01:00:49.060 Thank you, Candice, for being our voice.

01:00:51.160 I'm grateful.

01:00:51.920 I'm actually so grateful I can be your voice.

01:00:53.780 And I'm grateful that you see that when they're attacking me, they're just kind of attacking

01:00:57.720 people for asking the most basic of questions.

01:01:01.340 And again, I would like to I'm so grateful to Tucker, I think is also one of our voices

01:01:05.320 immediately interjecting.

01:01:06.740 He's like, well, let's be fair here.

01:01:08.180 The feds have lied about everything always.

01:01:10.420 So why should we think this is different, especially when they're dropping these weird text messages?

01:01:14.400 Uh, so yeah, I'm I'm grateful that you guys trust me to be your voice.

01:01:19.080 And obviously, you guys were kind of all on the same squad here.

01:01:22.380 So it's because of the information that you're giving me that I'm able to even platform it.

01:01:25.780 So I owe I have so much gratitude for you guys as well.

01:01:28.980 Every morning I start the day with gratitude and I always say how grateful I am for the

01:01:35.580 platform that I have been given by God and the people that have invested in me by just

01:01:39.860 watching and hearing what I'm saying and standing up for me when I can't stand up for myself

01:01:43.660 because I'm being attacked from every which direction.

01:01:46.280 So from the bottom of my heart, I do want to say thank you to you guys.

01:01:49.080 Moderator Marzi writes, Rob O'Neill, the guy who shot Bin Laden, questions the story of

01:01:52.980 Charlie on Piers Morgan's show.

01:01:54.320 Also, the South African ambassador to France was found dead in a Paris hotel.

01:01:59.580 Oh, no, France.

01:02:03.020 France.

01:02:04.200 It's hot right now, France.

01:02:05.840 France is.

01:02:08.560 You guys already know.

01:02:10.800 Look, I want to say this.

01:02:11.920 I want to say this.

01:02:14.000 Make sure I read all of this.

01:02:15.320 Oh, iBudget also asked, what's the update on your Australian visa status?

01:02:18.340 I want to answer that real quickly.

01:02:19.840 Your Australian fans need you.

01:02:21.100 So, you know, the Supreme Court of Australia heard, I don't think it's called the Supreme

01:02:25.720 Court.

01:02:25.980 You guys call it something else.

01:02:27.300 But it is your Supreme Court heard our arguments and we are still awaiting a decision.

01:02:31.240 Obviously, we can't rush them in their decision.

01:02:33.680 So we will be the first to know when we hear back.

01:02:36.420 Speech is on the line.

01:02:37.580 But of course, we will always respect the decision of any country.

01:02:42.200 We've never been in trouble.

01:02:43.180 So it's weird that I can't travel to Australia.

01:02:44.400 It's very strange to me.

01:02:45.160 Everybody else can travel to Australia that's been in tons of trouble.

01:02:48.080 But that is the power of truth when it is spoken.

01:02:50.160 That is what is so amazing.

01:02:52.020 All of the money in the world that Israel has, the money they spend on influencers, people 0.74

01:02:57.480 have been assassinated by trying to get them to register under Farah, presidents, everything

01:03:02.020 that they have done.

01:03:03.540 And every piece of that carefully woven tapestry of deception is falling apart because people

01:03:11.820 are speaking truth.

01:03:13.520 That is why free speech is important, right?

01:03:15.700 That is why it is the single thing that they want to attack first is because truth when

01:03:20.280 spoken, that's Christ.

01:03:21.560 Christ is truth, right?

01:03:23.380 It is that powerful.

01:03:24.900 And that's something to be amazed by, to be amazed that they are scrambling and they want

01:03:28.420 us to stop speaking and to stop communicating and to shut down communications.

01:03:31.380 It shows you the power, you know, the power of Christ, truly. 0.96

01:03:36.900 I will say in closing and going back to France, if I found Brigitte's penis, I will find who 0.98

01:03:47.820 killed Charlie Kirk.

01:03:48.640 We'll see you guys tomorrow.

Candace Owens - October 06, 2025

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