Tristan Tate x Candace Owens | Candace Ep 45
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Tristan Tate and Andrew Tate speak to Candace about their experience in a Romanian prison, and how they managed to survive in the harsh conditions they were put in during their time in prison. Candace also discusses why the media loves to hate on the Tate brothers, and why they think it's a good thing that the media hates them so much, because they are the most hated people in the world, and the reason is because they were imprisoned in a hole in the ground. Candace is also joined by a special guest, who is pregnant with their second child, a baby boy, who was born on the same day that Tristan and Andrew were released from prison. She also talks about what it was like being locked up in a small, run-down cell in Romania, and what it took for them to survive the conditions they had to endure in prison, including the lack of access to a toilet and showers, and a lack of privacy. And, of course, Candace talks about Kanye West's recent interview with the media and why he's the greatest artist of all time. Thank you for listening to Candance's new podcast, Candance! and stay safe out there. Metrolinx and Crosslinks are reminding everyone to be careful as Eglinton Crosstown LRT train testing is in progress, so be alert as trains can pass at any time on the tracks. Remember to be alert along our tracks and only make left turns where it's safe to be aware of where it s safe to make it safe to walk to the train tracks. Stay safe, be aware, be alert, be safe, and stay alert, and be safe! . - stay safe, everyone! - Candace Cheers, Candice (and keep safe, stay safe! Cheers. - Evan and Andrew Caitlyn and the Tate Brothers - The Candance Podcast "The Candace Podcast" - Candice and Andrew "The Tate Brothers - The Tate Brothers ( ) Music: Evan Tate & Andrew Tate ( ) Music: "Trevor Tate - Andrew Tate "Tavion "Reed " The Tate "Reece "Kanye West , Jake " ( ) & Andrew "Bryan " and Andrew ( ) - Evan "TJ " ( Michael ( ) & Andrew "
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Well, we are still in the aftermath of the Kanye interview, holding that in a vault, revealing it to the world,
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and in the world sort of realizing that everything that we were told about Kanye two years ago,
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kind of having a mental breakdown, that he was crazy, that he was angry, was a carefully constructed lie.
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The media, of course, trying to bury him with headlines because they didn't want you to hear what he was actually saying.
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And then when you actually heard what he had to say, thanks to this vault interview, you went,
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Here is a reality that you've probably come to if you've been watching this podcast.
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Virtually every person in the media that is being attacked the hardest, there is a reason that they are being attacked.
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There is a truth that the media is trying to obscure.
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And so now I think it's my duty to speak to the most canceled, quote-unquote canceled people,
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that are out there to figure out why it is the media hates them so much.
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I really don't think there is anyone that is arguably hated more than the Tate brothers.
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I think it even, they rank higher than Ye does.
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So I'm going to have a conversation with both of them today.
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First and foremost, we are going to speak with Tristan Tate.
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And this is the least pregnant I've ever seen, Reef.
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The new arrival, I'm like, I'm either pregnant, still pregnant, pregnant again.
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So I have been, I've been wanting to speak to you for a very long time.
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Obviously, when I went out to Romania the first time and I interviewed just Andrew,
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but then I had such a remarkable conversation with you.
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And I realized that, oh gosh, I should have definitely interviewed Tristan because there's
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You're incredibly well read first and foremost.
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But I want to start with just speaking about traditional masculinity.
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And there was this one moment that you were describing to me, really the circumstances
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of what it took for you to survive mentally when you and your brother were put into a prison
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Can you describe, first and foremost, just remind us how long you were put into that cell,
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how big the cell was, and what the environment was like?
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Well, Romania has a very, I guess, smart way of dealing with their prison system.
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What they do is instead of investing money in the prison system, they eat all the money
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in fines for treating prisoners badly because it's cheaper than actually constructing new
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So every single prison here is built during the communist regime.
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I'll use yards because I know you're an American.
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I like to use meters, of course, but two sets of bunk beds, tiny toilet in the corner.
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And then there's a shower overhead that is either way too hot or way too cold.
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And if I had known I'd be there for 92 days, it would have been a much easier task.
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However, every two to three weeks, I'd have a court hearing to see if I was there for
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longer, if I was going to be released and put on house arrest.
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So I didn't know when I was going to get out, which was, I guess, the most mentally challenging
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But it got a lot easier towards the end when I was put in the same cell as my brother.
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And then my only role, my only job, my only focus was keeping Andrew mentally focused and
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And I didn't even care about the fact that I was in jail because I am my brother's keeper.
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You know, it's good to have your brother's back.
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So, you know, if I woke up and he was depressed or he was sad or he was angry, I didn't care
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I think that it's interesting because I just like to assess culture where most people try
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And of course, when you see a movement happening, especially if it's a populist right movement,
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people behind Trump that just go, it's a bunch of white supremacists that are dusting off
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Now they see you and Andrew, it's like, oh, it's all of these misogynist boys who just hate
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And of course, that's so silly and it's so stupid.
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And I always want to claw back and really understand what it is that people are responding
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And I think it's kind of one of the most remarkable things about you and Andrew is this brotherhood
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that when you guys speak with each other, when you are together, it just feels like you're
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And we have been so removed from that in society, the concept of loyalty, the concept of brotherhood,
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the concept of looking after your family member through everything, thick and thin.
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And you guys have definitely been through the thick and you stand by each other, that when
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you tell that story of just like, you know, I just suddenly wanted to make sure that Andrew
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was okay and you're in this cell and you don't know when you're going to go out.
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I think it's, it's, people could never imagine what that challenge would be like to try to
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keep yourself sane while you are caught in this cell for how many hours.
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I mean, it's just, did they let you out in the play yard?
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This is, I mean, this very average hotel is the best hotel we have.
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So I was escorted to and back from the courthouse in a, in an armored police van.
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You don't ever get a chance to breathe fresh air.
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First time in my life I've ever been sunburned because, you know, I'm mixed race and I just
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But the horrible food and the 92 days in jail when I first got out, it was springtime.
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That was the first time in my life I'd ever been sunburned because I hadn't had the sun
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I could probably paint a picture from memory of the exact view.
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I'm facing a very ugly communist era apartment block and there's a tiny corner of a park.
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I drive past it sometimes to make myself feel better.
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I literally drive past my jail just to make myself smile.
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So the first day that you guys got out, I vividly remember the picture and the news and like
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the on-come tear and like you guys are smiling.
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And just can you just tell me what that day was like?
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Did you go to the courthouse first and then they let you go or how did that work out and
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what did you think and how was sleeping in your own bed?
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You have to understand that even the Romanian police officers and the Romanian prison guards
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A lot of them, and I can't say their names because they get in trouble, but a lot of them,
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the high-level people in the prison would say to me, look, guys, I'm sorry you're here.
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And when I got the news that I was free, so you'd go to court and you'd wait for the
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Now, I, Andrew, was always hopeful of going home.
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Andrew, every single time that we were waiting for this phone call, which was six or seven
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times over the period, Andrew would be like, oh, maybe we'll go home.
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So when the news came through, my lawyer told us we were going home, I literally banged on
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the prison door and I said, you know, I shouted in Romania, in Romanian, I'm going home.
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And everybody, the guards, the prisoners, everybody erupted in this massive cheer because
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everybody knew I shouldn't have been there in the first place.
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Everybody erupted in this massive, like, applause.
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And it was, yeah, it was a very, very good feeling.
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And sleeping in my own bed, it's one of those times, you're not a party animal like me.
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You've probably never been so drunk that you wake up and you don't know where you
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And it was one of those times where literally I woke up probably five, ten times during the
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I still had my prison beard, you know, and you feel the cockroaches, the insects, everything
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that used to wake you up, the mosquitoes, everything that used to wake you up in jail,
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you feel it in your dreams or in your subconscious and you're like, I'd shoot awake every single
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It took me three or four days of sleeping in my own bed until I, you know, realized I
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was actually free to walk around my house and see my friends and talk to people.
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No matter how much money you had, no matter who you hired, you couldn't possibly replicate
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I have a theory which came from my buddy Dave Smith that, you know, part of the reason
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that you and your brother are being so attacked is because you represent a real threat to what
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you guys termed the matrix, you know, they managed to enslave the majority of human civilization
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via either banking, people who have bank debts, debts that are usually accrued because of
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They've enslaved their minds via the education system.
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And also they've enslaved them because if it ever came down to it, the majority of people
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wouldn't be able to fight for their freedom, quite literally fight for their freedom.
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And then you take a look at what you and your brother have built and I had not even realized
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It's a full disruption to traditional education system that most kids can't afford and don't
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need to go into six-figure debt for because it's $49.99 for a course.
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And I actually hired someone not realizing they were a Hustler University graduate and they've
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And this is a person from the wrong side of the tracks who now has an opportunity and he's
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learning how to make money in this world and he's not doing it because he has to first
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figure out how to pay all of these debts like I did with student loans.
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And then you have these two brothers and they're embodying the family and they're speaking about
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traditional masculinity like, you know, I'll beat you in a fight.
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Just that old school, like, I will beat you up in a fight.
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You can't disrupt how they're enslaving people without them essentially owning you, you know,
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and people thinking that it's something new, but it's really the same thing that's old.
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And you guys truly are free and sit outside of the bounds of their control.
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It's not just the ability to fight or the will to fight.
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I think what me and Andrew embody that a lot of people don't quite understand is what would
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You know, a lot of people who maybe are trained, are smart, can shoot, can fight.
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But they're not a threat because they don't have an ideology that they're willing to defend.
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And I think that when I say, I gave this example to your husband, who I love, by the way,
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I was talking to him earlier and I said, I'm worried right now.
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I'm worried, genuinely, not about these new charges in these cases.
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This doesn't scare me, but I'm worried they're going to hit Andrew with a charge for inciting
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And I'm worried about how I'm going to get myself put in jail with him.
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I might just have to incite some riots myself if they charge him with this.
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I'm worried about how I can get into jail to be there with him.
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So it's not just the ability to fight and the ability to be masculine and to be a masculine
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It's what it's giving people something to fight for your family, your ideology or your
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That's what they try and strip from everybody, because a willingness to fight is far more scary
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Some of my friends are not professional fighters like me and my brother are, but my friends would
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be willing, if I got jumped by 50 men, they'd be willing to fight, which is a lot scarier
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So that's what we're trying to give people, you know, a reason, a reason to defend your
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beliefs, a reason to stand up for yourself, a reason to say no to all the agendas pushed
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down our throat, a reason to see something on TV and call it out as bulls**t in front of
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your family members, no matter how excommunicated you're going to get because they're all liberals.
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You know, we're giving people a reason to stand up.
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And the fact that our lives have been so successful and the fact that people in Hustlers
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University, people in our private networks that have been so successful is now opening
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a lot of eyes like, okay, well, if I stick by my brothers, if I stick by my beliefs, if
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I stick by my friends, if I stand on my word, if I don't betray my morals, this is what can
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You know, if I was a degenerate bum sleeping outside on the streets ranting, people wouldn't
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So the success is also very scary for them because I'm showing young men like the person
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He learned editing skills at Hustler University for what is it?
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So he probably spent $200, $250 on his education.
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And I do think that part of what you guys embody is what most people see as fantasy on their
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They have this visceral response, men and women, too.
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When you watch the movie 300, I love that movie.
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But the reality is that the majority of people wouldn't have kicked somebody down the hole
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and said, no, we're fighting and looked around and said, no, we're going to war.
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But we would rather lose and have every one of our men in our tribe killed and murdered
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than to subjugate to the whims of this kingdom.
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And I don't think people really understand what it is they love about that movie, you
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Because it hits at something in their spirits that they know is the way things should be.
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And you're certainly, you've kicked a few people down a few holes very recently saying
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But yeah, it's a part of being on the right side of history, as I see it.
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I don't see a world where maybe I lose, maybe we lose.
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Where it spirals into this degeneracy, this Weimar Republic of, you know, post-World War
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I Germany, and the whole world becomes a degenerate asshole.
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I don't see a world where rational, sane people are going to look back on me and Andrew and our
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message and you because, you know, the internet is now forever.
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And people are going to be able to watch this stuff and say, these people were wrong.
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I don't think that you'll be able to sigh up people that much.
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And I have, you know, children, you have children, and I'm not going to let this world, I'm going
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I'm going to do my absolute best to make sure that I leave this world a better place for
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them, you know, whether or not it puts me in jail or not.
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I mean, spoiler alert, I'm not a human trafficker.
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And what's actually funny is that everything that they accuse people of doing is what they
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And this gets into, I need to do a full episode on this, but like, they accused Michael Jackson
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The media is literally an ecosystem that was built to protect pedophiles.
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And once you start realizing, like we said before we got live here, that Alex Jones was
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When he started speaking about the satanic worshiping elites that are all pedophiles, I
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remember first hearing Alex Jones being like, this man is like on crack.
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I was in my early 20s, and he's sitting there, super energetic as always, ranting about these
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satanic pedophiles and how they're drinking the blood of children.
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Turns out he was completely right about everything.
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And I feel like what Alex Jones knows, because here's the real scary part, tip of the iceberg,
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This is what Alex Jones knows, and this is what he's waking everyone up to.
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This is what we now understand, and we're trying to wake people up to.
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What are we going to discover in the next 10 years?
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What if the culture of the world changes, Trump gets in charge, a bunch of right-wing
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politicians take control of Europe as they should, and start digging into the files?
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I mean, the more that I learn about anything, I'm just like, the school system exists to
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make you stupid, but convince you that you're smart.
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As they're going around the world, deleting history, I think it's part of the reason why
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they keep plundering the Middle East is because they want no relics of history, because that
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allows these Marxists, because that's who they are, to rewrite it.
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And the reality is that America got overtaken by Marxism.
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It happened in waves, like the 1848ers that came and established.
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People who established kindergarten were in that.
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And then again, in 1880, after they assassinated the Tsar in Russia, under the guise of pogroms.
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Oh, all of these people just have to be allowed into America unchecked.
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But a huge portion of those people were the people that overthrew him and were actually
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psychopathic, and then went on to mass murder Christians.
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And then a few of those people then established the Diamond District in America.
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Julian, Julius Armand, like Armand Hammer's family.
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Armand Hammer, the actor, is named Armand Hammer for a reason.
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It is known that his father was, or however many grandfathers, was considered Stalin and
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Which then kind of gets into the question of the media, who for a very long time tried
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to convince us that Stalin and Vladimir Lenin were anti-Semitic.
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And then I learned, wait, Stalin was married to...
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Yes, they were literally a part of the Jewish cabal that, you know, and credit to...
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When I talk about crushing history, or if you even say that, which I'm saying it, because
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I looked into it, and I found a friend who understands Georgian, and they're like, everybody
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And you just spoke about Weimar Republic, and I would like to talk about that more extensively,
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because one of the things that I got attacked for, which shocked me, and then I realized
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that the elites are protecting pedophiles, was I spoke about Magnus Hirschfeld, and how
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he was a full sexual pervert with pedophilic tendencies, who had weird sex objects all around
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But yeah, Weimar Republic is, it's how the world is going.
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Certainly in my lifetime, you're my age, slightly younger than me, I think.
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I've seen things on television, on the internet, that wouldn't have been acceptable.
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I remember back in the early 2000s, they would censor music videos, and they'd only play certain
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music videos late at night if a girl was in a bikini.
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And to look around today at especially the United States, I know you live there, sorry,
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Nobody, they did it so slowly and so gradually, and they've infected us with this virus, which
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It's infected the minds of every single person in the UK where you don't even see it anymore.
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But literally, you're blind to the fact that they've destroyed your culture and destroyed
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a world that's safe to raise children in, which I think is one of the goals.
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And yeah, for anyone who doesn't know what the Weimar Republic is, I encourage you to
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You've got to use Bitch, you've got to use all these fringe websites that, you know,
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Why aren't we allowed to talk about the problems?
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And you realize that they have taught us World War II history like we're children.
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Like, I mean, it's everything they've told us, virtually everything they told us is either
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not true or a snippet of the truth or admitting something that would make us question more of
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And they freaked out when I shared a BBC documentary, no less, because they had tried to like wipe
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this from the universe about how Germans were ethnically cleansed following World War II.
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Immediately after, they allowed Stalin to just go in.
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In Poland, Czechoslovakia, they just wiped them off the face of the mat.
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And then to know that prior to World War II, there's a book written by a guy, last name
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Kaufman, blanking on the first name, where he said, it's Germany must perish.
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Like, they literally wanted to get rid of Anglo-Saxons.
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And so when you have that context and you're going, whoa, whoa, whoa, why was I never told about
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this book, which was published in America, about like, he wrote a book about how they
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would have to just annihilate them, how they had to make them infertile that they couldn't
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And then you hear at the end of that war, what was done to German-speaking civilians.
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And that should send a chill down your spine that you don't know it.
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That is what scares me, that we were never taught it, which means that we were specifically
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And that angle has been protected for a very long time for a reason that must be evil, because
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I actually, and I'm going to get put in jail anyway, so I don't care.
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I'm going to speak my mind because, you know, you're here.
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So I actually realized this very, very early on.
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And when I was 19, 20, 21, I was still traveling the world a little bit.
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And then I realized that every single country has their own version of World War II history.
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Even all the ones that we're supposed to agree with, every country is different.
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France teaches that, you know, the French resistance overthrew the Nazis and they never
00:22:13.920
really surrendered because the French were still fighting and they won the war even though
00:22:21.420
However, the Polish are taught that it was the Polish men who stood up and blah, blah, blah.
00:22:25.820
The Russian actual version of World War II is the most accurate that can be taught because
00:22:30.240
they talk about all the major fighting and all the heavy lifting essentially to defeat
00:22:34.780
the Germans was done by them and all the blood was spilled by them.
00:22:38.280
But as a young man, when I was reading all these different versions of World War II history
00:22:42.040
and what we're taught, you know what the Germans are taught?
00:22:44.060
Do you know German World War II history if you're in school in Germany?
00:22:53.580
Very small handful of people took over our country and the German resistance movement
00:22:57.720
along with the allies got rid of the evil people.
00:23:02.960
And as a young man, I was like, well, this can't all be true.
00:23:06.460
So that's when I started digging into it and understanding World War II history in a way
00:23:10.800
that if I spoke it vocally in public and I had an audience, I'd get put in jail.
00:23:14.760
But by all means, whatever country you're from, please look into this because it's different
00:23:19.280
in every country for a reason because it suits their particular narrative.
00:23:24.980
The truth is none of the countries who won teach an accurate version of World War II history.
00:23:29.360
None of the countries who won teach the actual reasons why the war happened.
00:23:32.920
None of the countries who won teach the aftermath and, you know, what happened because the war
00:23:40.060
So it's something, it's a rabbit hole that you are digging up publicly.
00:23:47.880
And so for me, having watched a documentary, my jaw on the floor, even learning, and I think this is really why the press
00:23:52.600
attacked me, that so many of the people who executed those crimes were then protected
00:23:57.800
That's already an existential crisis for the allied union between Israel and America.
00:24:03.360
If Americans start waking up and going, wait a second, why would you guys be protecting
00:24:06.960
people who, Solomon Morel, who executed these crimes against Germans and you refused to extradite
00:24:13.160
him when they actually wanted to prosecute him for his crimes?
00:24:17.640
We were told, like, you especially should have a reaction to people that are committing a
00:24:26.580
And so it takes, for me, that was a major seed that was planted.
00:24:29.760
Like, why would you not tell me about what happened to the Germans?
00:24:32.140
And then when my German friends were privately thanking me and saying my videos were going
00:24:36.060
viral in Germany and that not only were their ancestors slaughtered, murdered, or ethnically
00:24:40.540
cleansed and pushed out, but they then passed speech laws.
00:24:50.560
They just put an 83-year-old woman in jail for questioning World War II history in Germany.
00:25:02.480
And I made a, I said this on, I said this on Twitter, on X.
00:25:05.640
I said, nobody, no judge, no lawyer, no court, nobody, nobody should be allowed to prosecute
00:25:14.380
Because you're taking people who have, you know, it's like your child, your child literally
00:25:19.820
arguing with you about what you saw and how you lived in 1994, way before they were born.
00:25:25.780
And I was like, well, isn't that wild that this woman was around in 1939, 1944?
00:25:32.660
And people who were born in the 1960s and 70s are sitting behind a desk with a book of what
00:25:38.000
they're supposed to think about these events saying this woman is wrong.
00:25:41.920
Nobody who's younger than her should be allowed to even sit in that room and tell her that
00:25:46.580
she has to go to jail for having her opinions because she was literally an eyewitness to
00:25:52.920
And you want to talk about, I mean, obviously, the people protected by the state of Israel.
00:26:03.120
Werner Von Braun, the man who invented the V2 rocket.
00:26:05.640
The man who, you know, invented this weapon of death that was, you obviously hit London a
00:26:10.420
He was the best rocket scientist in the world, but because he was a rocket scientist, okay,
00:26:16.080
Oh, you were just doing your rocket science, but we don't care that you were SS because
00:26:22.160
Yeah, that should make people ask some questions.
00:26:24.160
You're told that you went to go crush them, but then we had a program.
00:26:28.180
Everyone useful, you know, was suddenly an American citizen.
00:26:31.380
He's buried in the same graveyard as all the American war heroes and presidents, et cetera.
00:26:35.420
And yeah, he's buried in a graveyard, I believe, in Washington, D.C. alongside ex-presidents,
00:26:41.040
war heroes, people who fought in the American Civil War.
00:26:50.020
And all the photos of him in his SS uniform have been scrubbed from the internet.
00:26:55.360
And it's like, well, why don't you just admit it?
00:27:04.840
Israel, the United States, why don't you just admit what you did?
00:27:10.380
Why don't we just admit what actually happened and talk about real history and talk about
00:27:14.260
what conversations were had and who was flown where and who was protected by who?
00:27:20.720
They're still mining that fake history to allow them to do things today.
00:27:24.860
And so part of the reason why, and it breaks my heart because, you know,
00:27:28.320
I'm friends with so many Jewish people that I grew up with, and they have fallen victim
00:27:33.620
to the same trap of BLM and Black America where they teach you traumas about your history
00:27:40.580
It's like, oh, slavery's going to come back unless I go out and defend, like, George Floyd
00:27:44.460
Like, I'm like, wait, that doesn't really make sense.
00:27:47.500
I'm like, why are you defending the state of Israel when they're killing George?
00:27:51.240
You're not required to defend George Floyd because you're Black.
00:27:53.380
You're not required to defend the stuff that Theodor Herzl and Bibi Netanyahu were up
00:28:00.940
But you see that this sort of psychological, like...
00:28:06.320
Like, oh, if people start questioning, oh, the Holocaust is going to come back.
00:28:09.360
No, I have no interest in the Holocaust coming back.
00:28:11.600
However, I think the state of Israel are war criminals.
00:28:13.620
And I've said this a million times, and it gets me in a lot of trouble.
00:28:15.940
But I was actually, I was genuinely with a Jewish friend of mine last night.
00:28:19.240
And he was, we were talking very briefly on the subject, because I don't really care
00:28:25.860
And I said, well, I think the governments of most countries are war criminals.
00:28:29.720
I think the current administration of the United States are war criminals.
00:28:34.580
I don't personally dislike people who are from Israel.
00:28:36.560
I'm just telling you, your government are a bunch of f***ing criminals.
00:28:40.540
And I could say the same about probably, what, 75% of the governments on the planet.
00:28:46.040
You're allowed to call out the crimes of governments.
00:28:47.660
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So it's totally insane to see people that feel rushed, and it's because of this psychological
00:30:18.640
trauma and psychology, and this is kind of another thing that triggered the pedophile
00:30:25.000
I started digging up Sigmund Freud and realized he was a pedophile.
00:30:29.820
It's a family of pedophiles, and this gets into that broader point about what Alex Jones
00:30:34.160
was saying, is that they did studies to see how to create a psychopath.
00:30:40.860
There's a reason why everyone in the West is a homosexual man, like a closeted homosexual.
00:30:45.820
I mean, Zelensky is as gay as you can possibly be.
00:30:49.760
They're all groomed and grown in exactly the same environment.
00:30:53.200
You know, the Breedit McCrone thing, obviously, that's a dude.
00:30:57.320
It's a dude that at the very least, the press won't even touch the fact that it's at least
00:31:02.360
It's at least, yeah, it's at least statutory rape in grooming.
00:31:04.860
Which is not normal because most 40-year-old women are not like attracted to 13-year-old
00:31:09.720
And they've tried to lie about the timeline to obscure that.
00:31:12.080
And on top of that, you learn that McCrone was raised by his grandma, who also happened
00:31:15.760
to work at a trans clinic, one of the first trans clinics ever to perform surgeons.
00:31:19.400
It's like, dude, do you understand that what's happening is they are essentially, and this
00:31:24.940
is Sigmund Freud was a Kabbalist, and they believe in bisexuality, they, you know, worship
00:31:30.240
They are trying to use psychology to introduce, and I read this in a book by a Jewish historian,
00:31:35.920
David Bacon, to introduce, make their religion the religion of the world, right?
00:31:39.820
Which is a pedophilic, pedophile-centric religion that believes in demons, it believes in child
00:31:46.720
sacrifice, and it is the reason that we have the circumstances that we are in today, and
00:31:50.780
most people won't be able to find this history, and they think Sigmund Freud was like a hero.
00:31:54.940
You know my favorite video in the entire world?
00:31:57.700
It's not a clip from your podcast, I apologize.
00:32:00.420
My favorite video clip in the whole world is a clip just after I got arrested, because
00:32:05.520
there is a man who works for the BBC, sitting behind a news desk, telling the world that
00:32:11.160
me and my brother are dangerous sexual criminals.
00:32:13.920
That man's name is Hugh Edwards, who turned out to be a pedophile, and now he's been arrested
00:32:19.420
and confessed and been pled guilty to all this child pornography and having Category A sexual
00:32:28.720
I'm not going to tell you what that means, but please look it up.
00:32:33.520
There's a literal pedophile, a literal child pornographer, sitting behind a news desk,
00:32:39.640
telling the world that me and my brother are dangerous sexual criminals, and that will
00:32:45.400
And if that doesn't confirm everything you just said, I don't know what else does.
00:32:50.080
Like you said, they accuse Michael Jackson of being a pedophile because they are pedophiles.
00:32:53.640
The people in these establishments are the most depraved people that exist, and they are all
00:33:04.760
Everyone knows they do these things, and they're happy to feed one or two of them to the lions
00:33:10.980
But they'll point the finger at, I don't know what they're going to accuse you of next.
00:33:14.240
A black American woman, it's much harder than a man like-
00:33:18.380
A man like me with a complicated sexual past, it's easy to just say, oh, well, no, he was
00:33:25.400
I don't know what they're going to attack you with.
00:33:26.680
But when criminal charges or whatever are launched against you, I'll be the first to
00:33:31.280
defend you because I will know that they're bulls**t.
00:33:36.060
My person that works with me told me that he believes they have like a PI on me, like
00:33:39.980
a private investigator just like crawling through my life.
00:33:43.860
It's because I'm waking people up to the fact that pedophiles are in power.
00:33:48.740
And that is intentional because then they can be controlled while they are in power.
00:33:52.760
And they are also exhibiting signs of a psychopathology that lets them know that they will do harm
00:33:58.740
to the masses and feel nothing because they were themselves, many of them, raped when they
00:34:03.260
It's not a coincidence that Justin Trudeau is gay.
00:34:08.980
Emmanuel Macron, gay and married to a trans man who molested him when he was a child.
00:34:13.580
And that despite the overwhelming evidence, for me, the litmus test now is like Brigitte
00:34:19.760
I'm like, if you want to figure out who is a fraud in media, there is no way to read that
00:34:25.060
six-part series and go through it and come out of it being like, no, totally legit.
00:34:31.380
It's like one picture of yourself in your first 30 years of living, please.
00:34:49.040
It would be so easy to make it go away and then just sue you for everything you have.
00:34:52.980
It would be the easiest thing in the world if it weren't true.
00:35:00.060
And part of it, I think, that is part of the psychology is I think it's very scary for
00:35:04.220
people to come to terms with the fact that everything's an illusion.
00:35:07.440
That they have been always invested in yellow journalism.
00:35:11.820
That Sigmund Freud was the father of treating people, like, learning how to gaslight people.
00:35:15.780
All these women were saying that they were being raped.
00:35:17.660
And he said, I'm going to create psychoanalysis and tell these women that, no, they're just
00:35:22.020
No, they were being raped when they were seven years old.
00:35:23.820
Because that's what you do when you worship the Kabbalah, right?
00:35:27.140
And then he was like, oh my gosh, this can work.
00:35:31.100
Like, whenever somebody got caught doing something or somebody was about to come out and say
00:35:35.180
something, they would diagnose that person as either insane, like, they're totally insane.
00:35:40.740
And then they'd have their friends in the press create this propaganda and people believe it.
00:35:47.620
Because they've realized the voices that cannot be controlled have to be shut up.
00:35:55.380
I think, you know, I have to give credit to my brother.
00:35:58.320
He was on a podcast with Patrick Bet-David before we went to jail, when Andrew was first
00:36:03.640
And Andrew said, I am so popular, I could stream and post anywhere.
00:36:09.420
I could do live videos of me just talking on Pornhub.com and my fans will watch me.
00:36:15.960
And they've really messed up by canceling me because I've put a crack, the crack in the
00:36:22.820
And when Andrew said that, I mean, of course, I believed in him and I knew he was very famous.
00:36:28.060
I knew he had a big fan base, but I think the cancellation and especially the false charges
00:36:32.580
and the false accusations, I think they really have overplayed their hand because now they
00:36:37.120
can't stop this cascade of truth, of people speaking their minds.
00:36:42.640
Even if people are wrong, they can no longer stop it.
00:36:46.000
The tactics that they had five or six years ago would have hurt me and would have hurt
00:36:49.820
you if they, you know, had played the hands in.
00:36:52.320
And however, now with, I mean, with Elon only X and Chris over at Rumble and all these
00:36:56.840
various platforms, the youth are smart enough to find the people they want to listen to
00:37:05.180
So yeah, I think they really have overplayed their hand.
00:37:07.420
And I think a little bit, a little bit is Don's timing.
00:37:09.760
But it's the only, and it's the only trick they know though.
00:37:16.400
I think that is their methods based on this book that I was reading that was banned in
00:37:20.100
America in the 60s called Hollywood Babylon is like they would just kill artists, either
00:37:23.800
say they were drug addicts, commit them or kill them.
00:37:26.820
And once anybody was in their Hollywood cult and woke up to what was going on and to see
00:37:30.880
that this is the same strategy that they've been employing like since the 1920s in America,
00:37:35.560
they're employing the exact same strategies, like trying to convince people they're either
00:37:38.860
insane or they mysteriously died of a drug overdose.
00:37:41.520
And don't ask any further questions because here's some stuff we're going to tell you about,
00:37:44.280
you know, that will just distract you because there's so many headlines.
00:37:47.500
And I think that people are very much awake to it.
00:37:50.580
I think the success of my show, Independent, shows that they're not buying the smear attacks.
00:37:54.540
You guys continue to be extremely successful, despite the fact I think you're a threat.
00:37:58.260
And giving this information to people and telling them what books they should read so
00:38:04.120
And like why is Sigmund Freud taught to me as a hero in school when he was a pedophile?
00:38:08.520
A homosexual pedophile, just like all of the elites.
00:38:11.380
What was the Weimar Republic that you're speaking about?
00:38:19.640
Why were there, you know, prostitution rings and children who were being sexualized in this
00:38:28.160
And I think that when people start looking and they realize, hey, this kind of looks a
00:38:33.020
lot like what's happening right now in the West, they will realize that we're fighting
00:38:46.600
My theory is that part of the reason that there are so many wars is because they're
00:38:54.580
The fact that I can't go back more than a couple of generations because I'm a black
00:38:59.000
It allows, it's the largest, war is the largest human trafficking operation in the world.
00:39:02.840
But the people that are behind these wars know exactly.
00:39:06.520
They can trace their family lineage back to the Bible, right?
00:39:09.260
And so they're confusing everybody else because there's something, there's a wisdom that comes
00:39:14.220
The Bible tells us who and what these tribes were.
00:39:17.460
If you don't know what your tribe is, it allows them to have a tremendous amount of power
00:39:21.780
You don't realize they're keeping their tribe intact while they're essentially using multicultural
00:39:26.180
and war and open borders to just kind of deplete everybody else's, which I think is fascinating.
00:39:32.480
And then when I started studying more about like the Kabbalah and how this came from Babylon,
00:39:37.020
you know, and we're kind of seeing the same thing happen right now.
00:39:41.980
It's these false idols, the things that are happening.
00:39:44.420
It really actually really tethered me to my Christianity.
00:39:47.420
Like it really brought me back to like, okay, this is and will forever be a holy war.
00:39:52.560
And that's why you insist on everybody being an atheist, even though you believe in
00:39:58.040
And I was, I was, I admit, I was shamefully, shamefully thought I was an atheist for a long
00:40:04.240
And God, how did, I can't even, if I could talk to my younger self and probably punch him
00:40:11.680
But yeah, everything that's happening in the world, even, you know, I am labeled agent of
00:40:16.720
Russian disinformation by the remaining government.
00:40:20.320
And my crime was speaking to people who came across the border from Ukraine.
00:40:25.160
On Instagram, asking them questions live on Instagram.
00:40:28.180
That's why I was labeled an agent of Russian disinformation.
00:40:30.520
So these people were all what paid actors, paid actresses.
00:40:33.040
A lot of them knew exactly what was happening and why they were fleeing to Romania.
00:40:35.980
A lot of people knew the reasons, but again, uh, child trafficking, human trafficking, all
00:40:44.080
This is something that people need to look into.
00:40:46.760
You know, everyone's worried about, oh, well, the men are dying and 500,000 Ukrainians have
00:40:51.360
Listen, it's a war that can't be won against the world, the Russian war machine, et cetera.
00:40:54.680
Well, Russia have moved in and taken the territories they've taken, tried to reestablish them.
00:40:58.420
Obviously, Russian Orthodox Christianity is, is legal in the places that, that, that, uh,
00:41:03.420
Look into, and I'm not going to speak too much on the topic because I'm on the border
00:41:07.820
of Ukraine and you know, it's, it's quite, it's a sentence, it's a sensitive subject in
00:41:12.060
this part of the world, but look into the orphanages of Ukraine.
00:41:14.680
Look into the orphanages that were run by the church.
00:41:24.920
And that's why they will accuse people like me and Andrew of human trafficking.
00:41:28.920
Some bimbo who was here for four days made some story up and they'll push it and push
00:41:34.100
And no one looks into what's happening with every war zone on the planet.
00:41:40.360
And then when you add to that, and that's why I've been giving people the actual books
00:41:43.560
and the resources, and I'm glad that you brought up NASA and the satanic origins.
00:41:46.680
Like I'm so like the moon landing didn't happen.
00:41:49.540
It's like totally a psychological operation because they just keep evaporating money saying
00:41:53.460
it's going to NASA and nobody knows what's going.
00:41:56.560
And it also got people to invest in the idea of worshiping man and science over worshiping like.
00:42:05.800
I'm glad you loved it because the media said that I was the dumbest person in the entire
00:42:14.860
Whenever the media say like the opposite is usually the truth.
00:42:18.260
That's my, but when you said I've left the cult of science, I'd never thought of it
00:42:21.900
that way because I used to be one of these nerds, atheists, you know, science is the
00:42:27.600
Um, yeah, I've left the cult of science as well.
00:42:31.060
Um, unless I've studied in a certain field and I understand that certain field as well
00:42:36.760
as the scientists who are telling me things do, then I'm not going to take your word for
00:42:43.160
And you made this, you made the comment about the flat earth and you know, there's a bunch
00:42:46.180
of people on the internet who are going to love me talking about this, but it's not
00:42:53.860
Well, they, they, they tried to, they tried to spit it, but your point is I'm not taking
00:43:01.660
And, uh, I completely, completely agree with that.
00:43:04.620
I mean, I hold a bunch, a bunch of beliefs and I believe in obviously a lot, a lot of
00:43:08.500
what scientists have discovered over the years.
00:43:10.660
And, you know, there's, there's good scientists and there's bad scientists.
00:43:13.120
There's the COVID vaccine and there's Jonas Salk with his polio vaccine, which is maybe
00:43:16.840
a slightly more moral than the, um, we could go down the struggle if you like, slightly
00:43:19.860
you have a more moral cause than today's COVID vaccine.
00:43:23.240
And I'll pick and choose what I believe in, but I'm not taking your word for it.
00:43:28.480
Everything I've realized about science has led to, it's so funny.
00:43:32.160
They think, you know, witches and the co-concept of people, curses and spells and all of this
00:43:39.440
And then I say to them, oh, you don't believe in potions.
00:43:47.200
You just don't realize that it is, they are, they are battling for your spirit.
00:43:50.380
And I believe that the vaccines that are being introduced, because that was my huge awakening.
00:43:54.360
Thank God I was vax injured when I was 20, because then I was suddenly like, why did I
00:44:00.740
I just like, they did a commercial, said I needed it.
00:44:03.240
And then I looked into the statistics and the statistics were complete nonsense.
00:44:06.680
There was zero fear that anything was going to happen to me for this Gardasil vaccine.
00:44:10.640
Next thing I know, I'm like having a seizure on the floor.
00:44:12.920
And then right then I said, okay, I'm all done with like, trust the science, trust the
00:44:17.140
doctors, kind of feels ridiculous to think that your baby's born wrong and science can
00:44:25.420
And people believe this because they've intentionally made us atheistic via the school system.
00:44:30.540
The people, again, they worship the Kabbalah, created the idea of rationalism, the enlightenment.
00:44:40.580
They think they derive from apes because, I don't know, I guess Charles Darwin said
00:44:47.340
And then the age that was completely ruled by God and religion is now the dark ages.
00:44:53.540
So the dark ages and the enlightenment, you're right.
00:45:05.560
Everything I realized when I go and revisit it in school that I was lied about was I was
00:45:11.140
They're essentially making you hate Christians and Catholics without you even recognizing
00:45:18.780
Like always told that like at every turn, the Catholics and the Christians were doing
00:45:28.740
They say, you know, you could be, you know, black pride, Mexican pride, but you can't be,
00:45:32.100
you can't have white pride and can't be proud to be white.
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And everyone's like, oh, well, white people did this and white people did that.
00:45:40.760
But you were literally, before the Christians got there, committing human sacrifice to make
00:45:46.200
So shut the f*** up about evil things that you think white people did for a second, because
00:45:50.380
I could take any culture anywhere in the world and give it the same PR spin that the
00:45:54.700
media use against the white people and the Europeans and make your cultures look like
00:45:58.340
savage, backwards nonsense, which a lot of it genuinely was.
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It's funny because in talking about that cult of science too, I was reading C.S. Lewis's
00:47:13.340
And he starts talking about this idea of like an ape in trousers.
00:47:20.500
They're the dumbest people you could ever speak to because they're getting degrees and
00:47:23.860
they're being inoculated with propaganda and they trust the science so much that if
00:47:27.660
the science told them not to eat food, they'd all die of starvation, right?
00:47:30.540
Because like, oh, look, a scientist, he went to school.
00:47:32.640
He knows that I shouldn't be eating food at all anymore.
00:47:35.640
There's no gut or God instinct, as I like to call it.
00:47:38.580
There's no God instinct anymore because they have just been purposefully polluting people.
00:47:43.200
But I think about that now when I see these people speaking about their data and where
00:47:54.120
My father used to say you could buy an education, but you can't buy intellect.
00:47:57.660
My brother and I, I have, we left school when we were 15 years old.
00:48:02.580
So, and I have lots of people who work for me who have university degrees.
00:48:06.140
However, I'm sick of people waving these pieces of paper around thinking they're somehow better
00:48:11.280
I don't care about your piece of paper that says you're a hundred thousand dollars in
00:48:13.800
And I don't care how much you trust the studies.
00:48:21.760
It's very, very simple because the studies show the vaccine is safe and effective and everyone's
00:48:25.840
My mother quite literally had a heart attack in a year and a half ago.
00:48:36.000
Nine months before that, she had two doses of this poison because other family members
00:48:40.340
convinced her to do it, even though I told her, don't never take this stuff.
00:48:43.120
And she had a, she had a heart attack because of this.
00:48:44.640
And, you know, the studies show safe and effective.
00:48:47.340
And, and she went to the hospital and the doctors told her, you'll love this.
00:48:53.120
My mom's like, oh, it wasn't because of the vaccine.
00:48:55.360
Oh, the doctor who told you to take the vaccine.
00:48:59.040
And that, that's, I guess, airing my dirty laundry a little bit with these arguments I've
00:49:04.860
I want to tell the world that this happened because you have to stand up to people who
00:49:09.820
will wave studies and data and science in your face and try and tell you that this is
00:49:13.380
the way to do things because X, Y, and Z said so.
00:49:24.720
You tell me these things and I'll listen to your study.
00:49:28.300
And it's so funny because they, they really do believe in themselves.
00:49:31.200
It's like a elite academic class of people who've never accomplished really anything other
00:49:36.780
Like, they're just like, oh yeah, I'm so smart and I can read this.
00:49:41.600
So the fact that you and I are in the same topic of conversation and that I've made it
00:49:45.320
from the wrong side of the tracks and you had a cushiony life provided for you and
00:49:49.540
we're in the same room should automatically imply to you that I'm actually smarter
00:49:53.900
I didn't have to do the dweeb thing and get 27 degrees to convince myself and my intelligence.
00:49:58.860
The fact that we made it from nothing to where you are in the same conversation should
00:50:04.420
There's a saying I like, and it's actually from, take me to jail.
00:50:12.240
And he once said, if you knew better, you'd do better.
00:50:15.460
And I think about that all the time because these people with 1,000 Twitter followers,
00:50:20.660
you know, PhD in their name, broke, no money, small house, car, are quick to trash you and
00:50:31.900
Like, it's a stupid saying from the streets, from the hood, but I'm like, I don't want
00:50:37.200
You can't pay your bills and you're sitting there waving your piece of paper at me and
00:50:42.000
I'm perfectly comfortable and all my kids are fed and happy and everyone, my mother
00:50:46.660
What are you telling me about your education for?
00:50:49.000
Like, why don't you go and take that education and wave it at somebody who's going to give
00:50:52.140
you some money, who's going to make your life better.
00:50:54.540
So yeah, I really do love that saying and I kind of, I kind of live by it.
00:50:58.280
So when people are barking at me, I'm just like, I don't, I don't care what you think
00:51:03.420
you know because you haven't applied it at all.
00:51:06.840
And it's obviously not useful in the real world because you are where you are and I am
00:51:11.420
Well, they just, they've recreated and it's Machiavellian, but I very much believe that
00:51:15.480
we're still seeing a slave plantation because people are slaves.
00:51:20.060
Imagine being able to train a bunch of slaves to enslave themselves and to pay you $100,000
00:51:29.140
And then they'll point at you and tell you you're a slave who'd ever left the plantation
00:51:33.420
because you are sensible and you say things that are smart.
00:51:36.940
They're literally all programmed to take, it's crabs in a bucket.
00:51:39.840
The other crab was crawling out the bucket and all these idiots are trying to pull you
00:51:45.380
This is what Andrew always talks about, escaping the matrix.
00:51:47.520
The matrix, I mean, you can call it the deep state, you can call it the matrix, you can call
00:51:51.200
There's all different, there's many different terminologies for this.
00:51:54.500
But when you were a slave, you got a house to live in and you got food to eat and you
00:52:01.360
Now you do your work, they give you money and you use that to buy food in the house you
00:52:07.500
And you need these days monumental wealth or influence or success to even rise above the
00:52:14.060
plane and look down on what's actually happening.
00:52:16.560
When you're trapped inside of it, you can't see it, which is why it's very easy to point
00:52:20.060
at people like you and to point at people like me and just call us sex traffickers, criminals,
00:52:24.540
you know, Uncle Toms, all the crap that they throw at you.
00:52:26.900
Because, you know, actually doing the work and applying themselves to get to the point
00:52:30.740
where they can see things from your perspective is way too difficult.
00:52:35.020
And so much of it, just it's about having the confidence to keep going.
00:52:38.320
And they do try to break people because they're all about psychology.
00:52:41.380
It's like, how do we break somebody psychologically into just getting into line?
00:52:44.700
And I was speaking about with your brother, just that CIA study where they wanted to see
00:52:48.580
if they could convince somebody literally not to believe their own eyes.
00:52:51.520
If enough people said something that wasn't there, right, would you suddenly pretend that
00:52:57.180
And they've determined, yes, that that is how peer pressure works.
00:53:00.060
And if somebody, if everybody just tells you something and even every, your own eyes are
00:53:07.460
But the peer pressure, the fear of being pushed out, not being welcomed into polite society,
00:53:11.880
it's like, homie, polite society is being run by a bunch of homosexual pedophiles.
00:53:24.960
I think as a parent, like you, if you don't have a bottom line, and that's what we're seeing
00:53:28.580
right now, if you can be essentially curated or essentially forced into supporting pedophilia,
00:53:45.040
Like, are you going to have a backbone and stand up when you recognize that pedophilia
00:53:50.180
And the answer for so many people is no, I'm going to wait for somebody else to do it.
00:54:01.040
I mean, there was a, God, it hurts to even say it.
00:54:03.740
There was a girl who was found 11, 12 years old.
00:54:06.200
She had like nine different DNA samples inside of her when she came across the Southern border.
00:54:11.300
It's like, it's not about refugees and migrants trying to make a better life.
00:54:18.280
The guy who made the movie, The Sound of Freedom is a very good friend of mine.
00:54:21.020
I actually met him in this hotel very recently.
00:54:22.980
And they're trying to hit him with charges now.
00:54:27.160
And the people in, the people who the movie is about, the people who were trying to rescue
00:54:32.360
kids in Southern America, they're now getting hit with charges.
00:54:34.900
Isn't it wild that these people are fighting the good fight?
00:54:38.920
I don't tell, what if, I meet people occasionally online.
00:54:43.000
No one in the real world has anything bad to say to me.
00:54:45.780
They're like, yeah, but we know, I know your views and you're misogynist and you're this,
00:54:49.000
I say, tell me something I've said that's offended you, tell me, Tristan Tate, tell me
00:54:53.280
something I've said that's offended you and they can't do it.
00:54:56.840
But yeah, I'm just trying to open people's eyes and live, live a good, righteous life,
00:55:02.300
It's, it's, it's, it's very difficult, but I do think that, like we've said that something
00:55:06.140
has shifted now and I think people are starting to pay attention and they're realizing is
00:55:10.080
Like we're very close to losing the Western world.
00:55:13.480
And it's important that everybody does the research.
00:55:15.720
And like I said, that book chaos really woke me up to what was happening because even
00:55:19.360
the theory that I thought was the craziest that Alex Jones had that they're creating
00:55:23.300
school shooters then became obviously plausible.
00:55:26.660
Once I read this about the programs, which they created, they're, they're literally creating
00:55:33.060
I thought I said, everyone is required to read it.
00:55:34.720
You must read it to understand that they have pulled off hoaxes, that they are intentionally
00:55:39.600
trying to train people to be serial killers, that they experimented with LSD to try to
00:55:43.820
figure out if they could implant false memories into somebody's mind.
00:55:49.540
And then you realize Alex Jones is telling you the truth.
00:55:51.740
You realize that Kanye is an effing hero for surviving Hollywood.
00:55:58.600
But for surviving Hollywood, they tried to MK ultra him.
00:56:01.940
They literally in this book describe how they successfully, the doctors were able, the CIA
00:56:06.320
doctors were able to successfully give people mental disorders, right?
00:56:10.040
So that makes you look at Britney Spears different, makes you look at Kanye West different.
00:56:14.540
So essentially, if a celebrity wakes up and sort of realizes when they say they're going
00:56:18.980
in for exhaustion, it means that they are, they are about to inject them and they can
00:56:24.100
You know, when I knew psychology was bulls**t, I don't remember where I read this.
00:56:28.580
There was a study done where they take two or three random people and put them into a
00:56:33.000
room, a waiting room, say a doctor's waiting room.
00:56:35.380
There was a study with 15 trained actors and every two and a half minutes, a beep would
00:56:40.440
go off, beep, and every actor would stand up for a second and sit down.
00:56:45.840
Every two and a half minutes, beep, the actors would stand up and sit down.
00:56:49.080
And the people who were placed in the room would look around and not really know what's
00:56:53.260
And eventually, after three, four, five beeps, they'd start doing it.
00:56:58.640
They'd beep, they'd stand up, and they'd sit down.
00:57:00.940
And a very few people in this study, very few people will just sit down the whole time
00:57:06.280
and think, what the f**k are these people doing?
00:57:07.620
And I knew psychology was bulls**t when I read this study and saw that the people who
00:57:11.640
didn't stand up and sit down were labeled psychopaths.
00:57:15.680
These people are psychopaths because the environment didn't affect them or whatever.
00:57:25.640
And I think it's very scary, psychologists, the way they can label you something dangerous
00:57:36.260
That for COVID, they said people that are not prone to trusting the vaccine are psychopaths.
00:57:51.200
And there is a sliding scale, certainly, of personality types, emotionality.
00:57:59.760
But when you take us and put us on that scale of emotionality, let's say the person who cries
00:58:05.720
Where along this scale do you say, okay, psychopath, okay, manic depressive, drugs, you know?
00:58:11.900
Can't we just accept that everyone's different?
00:58:15.600
And some people are emotionally cold and some people wear their heart on their sleeve,
00:58:19.860
Can't we just accept that without making the sliding scale and saying, well, once you
00:58:24.480
pass this certain point that this guy with this PhD says, you need to be medicating for
00:58:29.880
And once you pass this certain point, you have to be medicating for being a manic depressive.
00:58:33.180
And I'm not saying that psychological disorders aren't real.
00:58:37.420
What I'm saying is I will never sit in a room with any of these motherfuckers and give
00:58:41.420
them the opportunity to put me on that scale and tell me that I need to take X drug or
00:58:50.240
I'm not interested in listening to you and having you put me on your scale and tell me
00:58:54.280
I need to take this drug because I'm a psychopath or I'm a manic depressive or whatever you
00:58:58.400
Can't we just accept that people are different?
00:59:06.560
You know, Candace, I think you might be a manic depressive.
00:59:09.760
I'm like, this is the reality is that they're trying to essentially get everybody on drugs
00:59:14.080
for this reason because they're creating the disorders.
00:59:16.680
And so they're constantly diagnosing your kid's hyper.
00:59:24.180
What little boy wants to sit down and open a book as opposed to being going outside and
00:59:30.500
And so they create, they present everything as disorders so that they can give you the
00:59:33.860
drugs that will eventually give you the disorder that you think that you're avoiding.
00:59:37.120
Like they are drugging children now for being excited, drugging women for being sad, drugging
00:59:42.120
people for experiencing human emotion, by the way.
00:59:51.340
Like I got to know how to deal with this human emotion.
01:00:04.220
I don't need to like, there's something wrong with me.
01:00:05.920
Actually, there was something wrong with me if I didn't feel that way.
01:00:15.680
I've had a bunch of surgeries and reconstructive surgeries on my arm.
01:00:19.740
I like to know how much it hurts so I know how injured it is, you know?
01:00:28.800
However, I just, yeah, I don't take pills because I just don't like it.
01:00:33.180
I don't like the idea of needing to convince my mind that reality isn't real.
01:00:41.440
I think my hand doesn't hurt, but it should and it does.
01:00:44.240
Yeah, and nowadays everyone's looking for the quick fix.
01:00:49.460
So it's very easy, especially when your life's a mess, when your life isn't in order, to lean on the mental health crutch.
01:00:55.600
And I'm not saying mental health problems don't exist because they very much do, but it's very easy to be special.
01:01:00.720
It's very easy to be told that, oh, oh, well, you've got depression or you're a manic depressive.
01:01:06.760
Well, my life's everything's falling apart around me.
01:01:12.980
I see people type the worst on the internet, and what I hate is the term survivor for things that can't kill you.
01:01:22.140
I don't like that term being used for things that – shark attack survivor, I'll give you.
01:01:35.760
And it's a very easy way to get the quick fix, to make you feel special, to make you feel like nothing is your fault, to absolve yourself of all responsibilities.
01:01:44.080
Instead of absolving yourself through your sins through our Lord Jesus Christ, you can, you know, absolve yourself of your sins and your failures through mental health.
01:01:52.320
Yeah, I think that's part of the reason that the clip of me telling, like, a college kid, like, life's tough, get a helmet.
01:01:57.540
Like, I mean, that's what the whole society needs.
01:02:01.720
And that's kind of the way that I was raised is that I wasn't raised within snowflake culture.
01:02:05.420
You know, when you have to survive, you're not treated like you're a special snowflake with, you know, bumpers and, oh my gosh, you don't want to run into anything.
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And people should be conditioned that way because it wakes you up to the reality of the world.
01:02:17.220
You know, you're going to have moments of elation, you're going to have moments of suffering.
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And unfortunately, so many people are turning to therapy and psychologists, which trap them in this cycle of constantly thinking about the thing that makes them sad.
01:02:29.960
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01:02:35.640
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01:03:56.800
I want to ask you, Tristan, because I know that you're an avid reader.
01:04:01.720
Because I've been kind of introducing a lot of books to my audience, and I feel like you would have a lot.
01:04:09.920
It depends if you're talking fiction or nonfiction.
01:04:17.460
I like fictional novels because you learn a lot from them.
01:04:20.700
I would say that, ignore all the movies, they're all gay, but everyone knows the story of the Three Musketeers.
01:04:25.800
You know that's a 50-hour read if you read that book.
01:04:31.660
And what you learn from that, although that these people were fictional characters, is the real love that men can platonically have for other men.
01:04:44.140
The love that you have for your friends in the way that they'll die for each other.
01:04:48.180
I mean, I've seen, don't even get me started, but I've seen Netflix adaptations on conspiracy theories that Abe Lincoln was gay.
01:04:56.280
Because he wrote in his letters, you know, I love you with all my heart, to a friend of his.
01:04:59.380
But when you read this book, written in the 1850s in France, with its original language about these three, four men, who really love each other, and they talk to each other in this way.
01:05:08.700
You learn how male friendship can be strong and beautiful without society trying to tell you it's gay, because back then there was no gay agenda trying to make everything gay.
01:05:20.700
Oh, the new Three Musketeers movie, I watched it in French, and they make one of the characters gay.
01:05:26.620
No, but there's a 20-second clip at the bar where he says he's bisexual, which adds nothing to the story.
01:05:37.700
I like The Three Musketeers, The Count of Monte Cristo.
01:05:45.700
I was just reading about that novel, and I have it on my list to buy.
01:05:48.640
I have a copy that was the one that when it was launched in America, they sent 13 copies of it over in 1899, and they were on display in bookstores for people to flip through to see if the novel was going to be a success.
01:06:04.300
And it's got love letters in it to people who are probably long since dead, who have dedicated and gifted the book to people in pencil.
01:06:14.960
Yeah, because they change so many books and editions and like to be able to actually hold the original thing.
01:06:22.980
I'm going to kick myself because I've forgotten the author, but The History of Magic was recommended by a good friend of mine.
01:06:30.300
A man who calls himself The Gentleman Mystic, but he's a very interesting guy.
01:06:36.820
Not a guy who's written anything else I've read.
01:06:40.720
And if you're a man, I mean, I like the James Bond novels by Ian Fleming.
01:06:45.940
And I get that you maybe wouldn't like him as much as I would.
01:06:52.500
Yeah, there's a lot of lessons in there, a lot of meaningful quotes, a lot of meaningful passages, and a lot of lessons in there about how to be a man, how to, you know, man up.
01:07:02.960
And there's a lot that the authors are trying to tell us about the real world, even through their fictional stories.
01:07:09.780
Anything by Ian Fleming, anything by Alexander Dumas, you can't go wrong.
01:07:12.840
Okay, so I want to ask you as a final question about the state of masculinity.
01:07:16.740
And it's a question that I have because you hear this debate on what is true masculinity.
01:07:21.160
And some people think it's just, you know, a man getting a job.
01:07:24.460
And, you know, I guess that would be a man having a job, you know, getting married.
01:07:29.480
Or maybe it's just a man climbing the Wall Street ladder and working for Goldman Sachs and earning tons of money.
01:07:35.640
And it's interesting because to see you guys get attacked for something that I think is really important, which is traditional masculinity, like can you fight, can you defend your family, is something that I think should supersede, honestly, everything.
01:07:46.820
Because at the end of the day, it's going to come down to survival.
01:07:49.300
And whether or not you can, you know, wear a suit and do some training on Wall Street is not going to save your family when war comes because war is always inevitable.
01:07:58.380
And so, I want you just taking a look at the political sphere of men that have garnered followings.
01:08:13.920
I think a lot of them are platformed on purpose.
01:08:22.220
I think that Mr. Beast is platformed on purpose for his friend to be transgender on purpose for kids to ask questions about things they shouldn't even know about on purpose to their parents who on purpose are brainwashed by the universities to tell them that Chris is a transgender and it's great on purpose.
01:08:43.460
Yeah, I mean, your game shows are interesting enough, but, like, who really gives a s***?
01:08:50.380
So, this is why people flock to them because they're platformed.
01:08:53.600
I'm not going to say that anything, any of these people have the X factor, have anything special.
01:08:57.880
Andrew, people flocked to him because of what he said, because we're awakening traditional masculine essence, I guess, in young men.
01:09:05.740
And what I would say masculinity is, to get back to your question, is very simple.
01:09:09.880
I think it's the mastery of your own emotions and the necessity and the desire to do what's needed to be done, even if it goes against your instincts.
01:09:27.980
Again, cutting back to what I said 45 minutes ago, the willingness to fight is more important than the ability to fight.
01:09:34.540
You would rather have an untrained man who can't fight be happy to go downstairs and face the burglars with his wife upstairs than a jiu-jitsu expert who s*** his pants.
01:09:45.880
You know, it's the ability to override reason and say, I need to do this because I need to do this.
01:09:53.180
There was a time when I was in prison and my lawyers had spoken to Andrew on the phone.
01:09:57.460
I famously didn't make a single phone call throughout my entire time.
01:10:05.120
And there was a conversation with my lawyers about, well, this isn't really about Tristan.
01:10:13.700
So, what we're going to do is we're going to push for a release of Tristan and we think we'll be able to get that done and then we'll push for your release later.
01:10:21.540
So, natural human emotion and reasoning for myself, self-preservation is I want to get out of jail, naturally.
01:10:30.300
But I said to the officer in charge, I'm not going to say his name, but, you know, it's a guy who I spoke to while I was in jail.
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I said, look, I like you and you're my favorite police officer.
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So, if they try to take me out of here without Andrew, you're the one I'm going to punch.
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I'm going to punch you and get assaulting a police officer and get thrown back in here.
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I'm not going to hit you that hard, but I'm warning you in advance because I like you.
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I'm happy to override my natural instincts for survival, self-preservation, to do the things that I think need to be done for the people I care about and for the people I love.
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Everyone needs to be a 6'4", 240-pound, muscular-bound kickboxer who's handsome and charming and rich and dresses well.
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It's not, you know, it's belittled by people like Piers Morgan saying, oh, Andrew, you just stick a cigar in your mouth and pump up your muscles and things like that.
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That speaks to the fact that I can do the things I need to do to be a masculine man.
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However, I would much rather be willing than capable.
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If I could switch willingness, if I had to choose willingness or capability, I'd choose willingness every single time.
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I think that's, I genuinely think that the relationship between your brother is beautiful and it's something that needs to be spoken about.
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And I'm just grateful that people are trusting me to introduce them to people that, you know, the media have essentially tried to take out, you know.
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I've always been clear about the fact that obviously, especially now as a Christian, and I know that I've spoken to you guys, but I don't support pornography.
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It's like, well, you're speaking to, they had history and they had webcams.
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And what people, first and foremost, don't understand is it's very easy for people who had very easy lives to say what they would or could not get involved in at any times.
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But also the people that you think are evil, like this person, I will tell you when everything was going down with me, you know, you and Andrew from the second it was happening, we're like, we have your back 100%.
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And the people that you would have thought would have said nothing because you've been nothing but great to them.
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And the example, obviously, that I've spoken about multiple times is Andrew Klavan, great colleague, great friend to him, threw me under the bus in two seconds.
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And so if that is the embodiment of masculinity to you, you know, because he has a podcast and speaks and says about topics you care about, then I would trade it.
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I will go with my instincts of the people that I believe have the capacity to do tremendous good, even if their backgrounds are not squeaky clean or the people who have squeaky clean backgrounds that I believe have a potential to do real evil in this world.
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And you guys, you obviously know where to follow the podcast, but you should really go listen and follow more.
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And if you have questions, I can't wait to read your comments.
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But we're going to keep having conversations on the show with every person that we're not allowed to speak to so that you can make up your mind because you don't need the media to make up your mind for you.