TRULY SICK: Ryan Reynolds Forced His 7-Year-Old Daughter To Say WHAT?! | Candace Ep 165
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Summary
Candace and Ryan are back in action, and the Baldoni Lawsuit is back in court, and Blake Lively wants to be dropped from it altogether. Plus, Candace's husband becomes a U.S. citizen, and Ryan's wife reveals the most American thing they did to celebrate.
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I see your festival and raise you a carnival in Venice.
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You want colorful? Thailand. Lantern Festival? Boom.
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Book it. Um, how did we get to Thailand from Prague?
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Oh, boy. Choose from a world of destinations, if you can.
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Thank you to all the internet sleuths who really understood that something was very wrong and I was not communicating as I normally do.
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We have some major updates for you in the Baldoni lawsuit.
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Blake Lively wants to be dropped from it altogether.
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We'll get into her reasons why, because they are amazing.
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Also, Ari Emanuel, Mr. Baldoni Baldoni, is no longer the CEO of WME Endeavor.
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So it looks like another one of Blake and Ryan's dragons is going down.
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But much more interestingly, by the way, is the lawsuit that no one's talking about, which is waging between Stephanie Jones PR.
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That was Wayfarer's initial PR team throughout the movie and Justin Baldoni, plus his crisis PR team.
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I'll tell you why that one's super interesting because it's the crux of everything.
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Lastly, Jessica Reed, Krause, House and Habit, randomly, randomly chooses violence, attacks me in a newsletter that went out over the weekend.
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All right, so on Friday, we took the day off from the show because it was a massive day for my family.
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My husband became a citizen of the United States, you guys.
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It was a massive day, really, because it's been a six-year-long journey.
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And I really just hope that it explains to so many people who don't understand, perhaps, where some of the anger comes from when it comes to people just crossing over the border.
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When there are families that have to go through this, it's a very expensive process.
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And it is an anxiety-inducing process because you just are like you never really feel safe having we're on our fourth child here.
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And he's not a citizen, so he's not afforded the same protections that I'm afforded.
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And so when you get to that finish line, you are just—it is just a day of just glory.
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Also, for those of you wondering what we did to celebrate, we did the most American thing you could possibly do.
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And we went to a phenomenal burger place called Hugh Baby's.
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He just dug into some bacon cheeseburgers and chili cheese fries.
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She gave such a wonderful little speech about what it meant for her family, like when they came over on the Mayflower and what it really means to be an American.
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So I just wanted to share that update with you guys a little bit more formally here on the show.
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Okay, so Friday, some of you sleuths were correct.
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We had put the link up for our show, which is the show that we're doing today, and then magically it got taken down.
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Literally, this is the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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But I grabbed a Faye yogurt, a strawberry one, I ate it, and within 15 minutes, my stomach blew out to here.
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It got really hard as if I was going into labor.
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And I looked at my team and I said, I am going to be sick and did not come back for 48 hours.
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But I can tell you that I was hoping that my affairs were in order, and that is the reason why.
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I love that you internet sleuths were like, usually when she's not going to do the show, she announces.
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I certainly did not authorize the email that went out and said, we'll do the book club the next day.
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This is the first day that I have been able to eat anything in the last 48 hours.
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And I'm sure you guys understand the angst that comes with that when you are nine months pregnant, as I am, because then I was worried because I'm going, my kid is not able to eat for 48 hours because I can't eat.
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I did that this morning, but I still cannot exactly eat right now.
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I think I look a little less pregnant today because I have lost everything in the last 48 hours.
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But I loved the moms that were like, did the Mossad do it?
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I'm now reading the conspiracy theories that were floating while I was gone and I'm with you guys.
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And that is why I love people that listen to this show because they will not get away with it.
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If somebody takes me out, let me tell you, the mommy sleuths will be on it.
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They were like, she always posts something when she doesn't do a show.
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You are not smarter than sleuths on the Internet.
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And shout out to those of you who harassed Savannah's personal Instagram account looking for answers, as you should.
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I know Savannah's been with me for four years, but we don't know.
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Anyways, I wanted to get into this before I accidentally went away.
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Look, first and foremost, this is the Hollywood scandal that just will not stop giving.
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I admit fully that I'm obsessed with the Blake Baldoni case.
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I can't deny my obsession because it's like we're watching an episode of Succession on HBO,
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except it's based on real life human beings who believe that they can just behave however
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I'm actually kind of mad at her for putting this on my radar.
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So I'm giving her credit, but also want to say, Steph with the deets, this was a deet that
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And so when this came across, I was like, oh, girl, I wish I did not know this.
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But she does amazing work, and you should follow her on TikTok if you want these deep
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dives and all these little tidbits that she's getting on the case.
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So I did know because I had looked into, obviously very deeply looked into the Deadpool Wolverine
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movie, I did know that Ryan had cast his seven-year-old daughter, Inez, or Inez, Inez,
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which is Taylor Swift's goddaughter in the Deadpool movie.
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Maybe this wouldn't be the film of choice for me from a Christian household.
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And I did know that the daughter, the kid pool, has a potty mouth, which makes sense
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You're expecting the kid to have, I guess, a potty mouth, and that's supposed to be funny.
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I was aware that the kid said some highly inappropriate things, but I had assumed that the kid was
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in the costume, and they likely used either a voice actor or an AI voice tool to say some
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of those things because absolutely no person, I don't care how funny you think you are in
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Hollywood, would want their precious daughter of all people to make comments about Hugh Jackman's
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OK, I just assumed, like, this is not something that you have to investigate any further because
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there is no father in his right mind who would want a scene in which his daughter makes a,
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I guess, homosexual joke about the relationship between him and this Wolverine character who
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were starting to have questions about their relationship in real life.
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And also, he admits in one of these, like, post-Deadpool interviews that not only did
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he force her to say it, but that she was not comfortable with the line.
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And then he was like, I'll just find a different actor.
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So he kind of basically forced his daughter to do the line or else he's going to replace
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Take a listen to Ryan Reynolds and Sean Levy laughing about this after the movie came
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Hey, when I want your opinion, I'll take Wolverine's f*** out of your mouth.
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And I am father of the year over here for allowing her to say such language, which, to
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And then came back later and said, I want to say it now.
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When I started looking at other people to play it.
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Yeah, but Ryan, to our discredit, we made Nezzy do I'm not s*** you 70 to 500 versions
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I think right about now is when you're going to pay for it, because that is just unbelievable.
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He is admitting that she was not, Nezzy, as she is called, was not comfortable doing
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And Ryan essentially said to her that I'm going to find another actor, which is pointedly
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That is that is literally him just emotionally conditioning her to say, like, if you want
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I could you could literally take my voice and make me say something.
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It's actually one of these Hollywood concerns is that now you can literally just use AI tools
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and create a fake Brad Pitt with the real Brad Pitt voice if you want to.
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And that's why actors are fighting back against AI as it is.
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But rather than just using an AI tool for his daughter or using a voice actor for her to
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say that line that she was uncomfortable saying, he basically says, oh, well, I started looking
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Wildly manipulative to do to a seven year old kid.
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But what's really stunning about this is think about what he is saying there and the
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arguments that Blake is making and that he is making in the CRD complaints against Justin
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Like, it is just stunning to me what they view as harassment, what they view as, you know,
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forcing someone to do something, an extra gratuitous that wasn't in the initial script and what
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And this you add this to the fact that he slapped the child extra gratuitously that all
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Now you're hearing from the director of a film that they made the seven year old do this
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line from 70 to 500 times as a discredit to us.
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And they want us to believe that Justin Baldoni is the creep in all of this.
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This is running parallel to him shouting at Justin Baldoni in a penthouse about his wife
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He's basically looking at his seven year old and being like, well, if you're not going
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to have what it takes to read this line, which happens to be about, you know, Wolverine's
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The exact opposite, in my viewpoint, of a fatherly instinct to protect your child, to protect
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Motherly instinct to protect your child's innocence.
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I would never allow this to fly because it's not necessary.
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Also, in other news, we know their big defender, Ari Emanuel, was the WME guy who proudly and
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I think really kind of cinched the deal when it comes to proving that Justin Baldoni suffered
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real life harm because this guy decided in his bold CEO demeanor to get up on stage and
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in the Freakonomics podcast, which they never released.
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They said they had tech issues, but we were able to get the audio admitted that he fired
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Justin Baldoni because he could and he was made fun of him.
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Baldoni, baloney, whatever his name is, I'm loyal and I'm loyal to Blake Lively and I'm
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And so I just bossed it and fired him for no reason.
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By the way, never good to have a CEO that's just acting because he can.
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But I'm powerful and I'm Ari Emanuel, my brother's Rahm Emanuel, and he bankrupted
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And so we're just going to fire Justin Baldoni.
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And now it looks like he's being pushed out of Endeavor.
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It's they house the UFC everything as the CEO after Silver Lake, which is a massive private
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And this was a twenty five billion dollar takeover of Endeavor in a in a deal that now
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And they decided that as a part of this deal, Ari Emanuel would have to seed operational control
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at the talent agency that helped to shape modern Hollywood.
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They wanted this guy out as a condition of them doing this twenty five billion dollar
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He now will still be chairing, so he will obviously have some capacity of power still
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You know, it's interesting that they did not want him to be the CEO.
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Now they are moving a guy named Mark Shapiro into the role of CEO.
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It's something that will have Hollywood buzzing because he was the most powerful person in
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Hollywood. Another reason why Jason why I believe that Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively
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felt so confident in everything that they were doing because they had this guy behind
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him and they knew that he would just fire someone on a whim or on an allegation.
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And he did do that, which, again, you're just these all these people are just flying way
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But we have to get into Blake Lively filing to be dismissed from the Justin Baldoni defamation
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lawsuit. Now, as I said, with Ryan's filing, this is to be expected to be expected is not
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atypical. The first move you're going to make in any lawsuit is to try to get a judge to see
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your side and go, this isn't even worth the time of the court.
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So Blake has expectedly filed to be dismissed from a lawsuit against her.
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Her argument that she is presenting is that the lawsuit in and of itself is illegal.
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OK, because the matter at hand is pertaining to sexual harassment, which therefore provides
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And one of those protections, and I want to be clear, she is correct here, is that an
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I'm going to explain to you why she is partially correct here.
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She is partially correct that under a traditional setting, if you are working for a company, like
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let's say you work for Candace Owens and Candace Owens Incorporated, and you obviously are not going
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to come to me to file a sexual harassment lawsuit against me.
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So they have this option for you to be able to go to the Civil Rights Department of your
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state, which is what she did, the CRD complaint.
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And you can then file for race discrimination, sexual harassment.
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And when you do that, the moment that you do that, the law dictates that that company cannot
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So if I find out that you filed this against me, I can't then fire you.
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So she's making that argument, but she's forgetting that there is one key difference here.
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You are not protected to then go outside of the court and to collude with the New York
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Times to completely destroy the reputation and the character of your boss and your boss's
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company by giving them text messages and personal emails between PR agents.
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Like that is what fundamentally changed the substance of the argument from an employee
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dispute, which is protected by CRD, protected by civil rights, to a defamation case.
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Now we are dealing with something entirely different.
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And I wanted to bring to your attention two main points that she raised in her dismissal
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So they are disputing that Justin Baldoni's team can prove actual malice, that they can
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reach that critical actual malice standard, which is hard to reach when you're dealing
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They're saying that they can't prove that because even Baldoni's team acknowledges in
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their initial filed complaint that Blake actually believed what she was saying.
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I'll show you this at the bottom of pages two to three.
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It says yet another of the FAC's insurmountable deficiencies is its utter failure to allege
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For example, that Ms. Lively subjectively did not believe the sexual harassment allegations
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Other than many pages of empty bluster, the FAC not only fails to allege actual malice, it's
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I think my thing here for some reason got lost.
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Among other things, the FAC incorporates by reference a damning text message between
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Mr. Baldoni and Ms. Nathan in which both agree that Mr. Lively genuinely believes that she's
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So what they're doing here is they're completely conflating two arguments.
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They don't think that the judge is going to be able to see through this.
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We all, meaning the entire world, actually believe that Blake Lively did not actually
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In other words, when there was all this bad press about her, I believe and I think most
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of the world believes that she genuinely believed that this had to be the work of a smear campaign.
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And like I said, therefore, she probably did suspect that there was some sort of a coordinated
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But in retaliation of what she supposed was a campaign, she lied about the sexual harassment.
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That is my viewpoint and a viewpoint that I think is shared by many.
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We don't believe that she actually believed for a single second that she was a victim of
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No, I don't believe for a single second she thought that Justin Baldoni was creeping on her
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And that's where we are getting into the defamation.
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You intentionally presented him as a predator, a sexual predator, and a creep to the public.
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And that is what rose to a level of defamation.
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Not the part about you being dumb enough to just think that you're too wonderful and that
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people really were going to like you talking about florals and that any person that didn't
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like it was obviously being advised by his PR team.
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So they're just trying to conflate there to get to to get out of this lawsuit.
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They're saying that the reason that the lawsuit lawsuit should be dropped is because Lake Lively
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So they're saying that nothing she said was untrue.
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They're like, actually, you admit that all the things we said were true.
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At some point in May, they simulated nude scenes that were filmed without an intimacy
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But they didn't give us the context that she declined to meet with the intimacy coordinator
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Their argument here is that you can't lie by omission.
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They're like, you admit that she came into the trailer, that Justin Baldoni came into the
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Oh, we just left out the part where she texted him and told him to barge into the trailer.
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We just left out the most critical, critical pieces of this.
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So obviously, this lawsuit should be dismissed because we we believe in lies by omission.
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All we did was omit the full context, which Brian Friedman then provided with an entire
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But that's no reason not to dismiss us because we did tell the truth.
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And you admitted that we were actually telling the truth when we were lying by omission.
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Like, number three, Mr. Baldoni asked Mr. Heath to show Miss Lively a video of Mr. Heath's
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wife giving birth at home, part of which Mr. Heath subsequently showed her.
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You left the part out that it was a video of his wife giving birth and said said that you
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I don't think the judge is going to look at this and be like, yeah, lies by omission don't
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count like lies by omission count so much that it's pretty obvious that
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you smeared and you libeled him and you did it intentionally by showing these partial
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I'm getting the feeling that nobody's being dismissed from this lawsuit.
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But like I said, it is a valiant effort for them to try to be dismissed from it.
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But most critically, I want to tell you guys this.
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I know I'm going to get into like this house and habit stuff and I got tons of stuff that
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I could actually go on for three hours, but I won't do that.
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Don't forget the Stephanie Jones PR lawsuit that is happening.
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I think it's actually the most important piece of this entire pie because don't forget
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it was her, Stephanie Jones, who reportedly gave Blake and Ryan all of that ammo to try
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to assassinate the character of Justin Baldoni and take down Wayfair.
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That was how they got the emails and the text messages.
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It's kind of heating up in the courtroom as a refresher.
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OK, Stephanie Jones is was the PR girl in Hollywood.
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And she really is your stereotypical early 2000s devil wears Prada type.
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I just drink coffee and take Adderall and don't eat.
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You know, the early 2000s, Rachel Zoe, Paris Hilton, Nicole Richie prototype people, you
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know, who call the paparazzi when people recognize they don't eat.
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They call the paparazzi and they share a slice of cake to dispel the rumors they have an eating
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That's kind of like the Stephanie Jones prototype, I would say.
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So it's known in Hollywood, just like you don't cross Ari Emanuel.
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You don't cross Steph at all in Hollywood because Steph will ruin you.
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Her firm repped everyone from Dwayne from Dwayne Johnson to Tom Brady to Jeff Bezos,
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And beneath her, just to bring up that chart, this is very important, was Jennifer Abel.
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Jennifer Abel was working at Stephanie Jones, Jones Work PR, pardon, Jones Work PR.
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And they had Justin Baldoni, Wayfarer students, as their client.
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And they were very happy to have them as a client.
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Now, to be clear, Stephanie Jones did not work with this account directly because she
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She would send the smaller accounts down to people like Jennifer Abel.
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And she sent the Wayfarer account down to Jennifer Abel.
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And when I say smaller accounts, I mean that according to the lawsuit, they were paying
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But they weren't A-list enough for Stephanie to personally manage them.
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And so to remind you of just how powerful Steph is, she's doubly powerful because she's
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Her husband, just to show you, this is Jason Hodes, he is a senior partner at WME who reps
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So if you angered Steph in any capacity, you could potentially lose any opportunity to
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work with the biggest artist agency in the world.
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That's why, another reason nobody messed with her.
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Well, in May of 2024, last year, so in the months leading up to the It Ends With Us premiere,
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Stephanie Jones actually began going through a PR crisis of her own because Puck News and Business
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Insider reported that her A-list clients were beginning to walk due to her erotic behavior.
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Also, there was a website that came together and an anonymous Twitter feed that was clearly
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put together by a former employee, disgruntled employees about her treatment of them over
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Because like I said, she's early 2000s devil wears Prada type.
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So she was quite mean and kind of took pride in that.
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And what was running at the same time was that Jennifer Abel, who was handling the Wayfarer
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account, tendered her resignation on July 10th.
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She was scheduled to leave on in early August, on August 23rd.
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But then two days before she was supposed to leave, Stephanie Jones calls her into her office.
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OK, she says, OK, Jennifer, I know you're supposed to leave in two days.
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But surprise, I'm forcing you to hand over your phone.
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She had a this is according to a lawsuit, a forensic data extraction technical expert
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She had an attorney and she had the PR firm's chief of staff who flew in unannounced from
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You know, but I think Steph's a little paranoid because he's losing her clients.
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Articles are being written about her and she just wants to maybe she thinks that maybe
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So she gets all of this stuff and that is how she then handed it over, I'm guessing, to
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And that is how they received these communications that would eventually be doctored for that New
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And it's also being a lot of rumblings is that she's also just recently lost Tom Brady
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I don't know if it's true, but there are rumblings that Tom Brady's on his way out, too.
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And a lot of this is going to come out via this lawsuit.
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But I would watch the Stephanie PR one because she might be the linchpin to how all of this
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Anyways, she believes they secretly conspired to undermine her reputation.
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And honestly, at at the core of all of these lawsuits is just tremendous Hollywood ego.
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It's just so much Hollywood ego that is happening.
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And I feel like 2025 is the year where all these egotistical maniacs are just being outed
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Like that world is sort of dying and it's just glorious to watch.
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because this was just weird. The whole thing was weird. And I'm just going to tell you guys
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everything because I just, like I said, we were just in the era of truth. That's what I would say.
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We're in the era of truth, and I just feel like people knowing more is better than people knowing
00:29:49.160
less in the public. And I can do that also now because I work for myself and my husband, and
00:29:53.460
I don't have to run these things through anyone. But so, I don't know if you follow. House and
00:29:58.380
Habit has been a substack, you know, a mom blogger, so to speak. People really love her. I've liked her
00:30:05.380
stuff. I followed House and Habit. Her real name is Jessica Reed Krause, and I have had a very nice
00:30:11.880
relationship with her in the background. I think I literally did an entire podcast with her in
00:30:16.680
January, and it was super productive. We were talking about how moms are kind of entering the
00:30:21.200
space and how the media is changing. You can literally go listen to how friendly and productive
00:30:26.000
and kind this was. And then afterwards, my PR person was like, she'd like to do more with you.
00:30:31.560
And I was like, great. I would love that. That would be amazing because, you know, moms kind of
00:30:36.540
coming together and having all these independent voices is a good thing. So, imagine my surprise.
00:30:42.580
This is the exact order of events of what happened. My PR person says, as I'm doing the Harvey series,
00:30:49.060
you know, House and Habit, Jessica Reed reached out, and she knows Jessica Mann, who is one of the
00:30:56.720
women who put Harvey Weinstein in prison, and that Jessica Mann wanted to reach out to you via her.
00:31:02.800
I'm like, okay, great. That sounds excellent because I would obviously, if she wanted to talk
00:31:07.960
about the case from her side, I have obviously told people my opinion about her. I have read her
00:31:14.840
emails. We are not done looking at her emails. I believe that Harvey Weinstein was wrongly convicted
00:31:20.480
of rape, and he was convicted of rape for three years by this person, okay, by Jessica Mann. So,
00:31:27.360
obviously, I'm like, great. Definitely go out. Like, she's in L.A. Go see her. He gets there.
00:31:34.320
And quite to his surprise, House and Habit tells him that she, somebody beneath her on her substack
00:31:42.160
is working on a hit piece on me. I'm like, what? Not even just me, my husband, which is even crazier,
00:31:48.140
because what does my husband do other than involve himself, like, entirely with the Catholic Church?
00:31:53.120
And the angle that they're taking, that her editor or writer is taking, is like trying to,
00:31:59.000
like, pretend there's something more between my husband and Andrew Tate, which just happens to be
00:32:04.740
the narrative that everyone has been taking over the last week in attacks against me, Tucker, and
00:32:09.540
Andrew Tate. Everyone's been doing it at the same time. It is so clearly not organic to me. But I just
00:32:14.580
said to him what I always say, let her run it, because it's a lie, and lies just never land. And in the end,
00:32:20.440
they do nothing but destroy your own reputation. And my husband maybe hung out with Andrew Tate
00:32:27.320
five times before he and I met. I have seen Andrew Tate four times in my life. I think one,
00:32:35.120
two, three of them you have all seen, because they've been on camera. And one time I could say
00:32:39.720
off camera. Okay, maybe twice off camera, maybe five times. We're talking about nine times in total
00:32:44.920
and trying to pretend or create a conspiracy there. It's just nonsense. I just don't care. I'm too
00:32:48.560
pregnant. I said, let her run the piece. I don't care. I have no rebuttal. I don't care.
00:32:52.000
You know, anyways, she ended up instead writing what is remarkably to me, and I don't know if this
00:32:58.580
is just like a woman thing, but just such a petty piece in a newsletter taking a stab at me and Megyn
00:33:05.340
Kelly and essentially literally spelling out that we're trying to be her, pretending that us
00:33:11.820
conservatives getting into the Baldoni case is not, is a brand flip. And it's the exact opposite.
00:33:20.160
Conservatives were the first ones who said that the Me Too movement had issues. Okay, we were first.
00:33:26.680
If you go back, we were the first ones who said we don't believe in the Me Too movement and that we
00:33:32.120
cannot just accept a women's allegations, a woman's allegations at face value. And for that reason,
00:33:38.660
I have defended men over and over again and insisted that people actually read through the
00:33:43.840
court transcripts and not just believe in the hype of what some woman is saying. And then the Amber
00:33:49.080
Heard case happened. And I think a lot of people who would have hashtagged Me Too kind of came to
00:33:53.420
their senses and realized, wait a minute, we can't just rely on emotions. We have to rely on the facts.
00:33:59.780
I have been investigating things my entire, I mean, the BLM thing was a deep investigation where I was
00:34:05.260
getting into the records of Patrice Cullors and the founders and saying, where is this money going?
00:34:11.900
I did the Making a Murderer series, Convicting a Murderer to show that Netflix wrongly made people
00:34:19.320
believe that Stephen Avery was innocent when he was not innocent. I did the Kamala Chronicles.
00:34:24.760
And what she doesn't mention in this newsletter is that the biggest thing I've done this year has
00:34:28.500
actually not been Justin Baldoni, but rather Becoming Brigitte has gotten way more many millions
00:34:35.220
of views. So I'm just going, what is this line of attack about? I mean, we should we should realize
00:34:40.260
this is what she wrote in her newsletter, by the way. She wrote, so many talking heads have shifted
00:34:44.520
course by leaning harder into gossip and scandal and other outlets notoriously defined by it are now
00:34:51.880
mirroring my signature stylistic preferences outright. Years ago, I started pairing lowbrow clips
00:35:00.060
about culture with Mozart symphonies. Back then, it was a unique concoction that humored me. Now that
00:35:05.980
pairing is used everywhere, most frequently by the Daily Mail to hook scrolling interests. Like,
00:35:12.760
it's a newsletter to say that everybody is copying me. I can guarantee you, I did not know anything
00:35:20.740
about your style, the things that you covered, what you were writing about. I don't understand why
00:35:27.280
this random attack came on me and Megyn Kelly. It just reads like women unable to play in a sandbox
00:35:35.080
with one another. And that is just, I am so tired of that. I am 35 years old. I have my fourth child on
00:35:42.320
the way. I promise you my interest in this is because I have been interested in every Me Too case since it
00:35:47.340
has come out. I covered the Amber Heard case extensively. If you didn't watch that, that's
00:35:52.320
fine. I was with the Daily Wire. Maybe they didn't promote it enough. Who knows? But to pretend that
00:35:58.280
conservatives just got into Me Too court cases is just pointedly ridiculous. Or to pretend that we
00:36:04.300
got interested in it because we wanted to copy you, that reads like a massive insecurity. And I think
00:36:09.960
it's just embarrassing, truly, because there was no reason to do it. It's just like a perfect act of
00:36:13.960
violence. And I wanted to show this when weighed against how men who have been watching my series
00:36:19.860
have just been sort of celebrating it and being like, these series, different series are very
00:36:25.120
interesting and super compelling. And here's why. So this is Joe Rogan speaking about two series that
00:36:30.540
I'm working on right now, the biggest podcaster in the world. And no, he's not about to say she's
00:36:38.360
The JFK stuff kind of just confirmed what kind of they label conspiracy theorists like, yeah, we've said it was
00:36:43.820
CIA, Mossad, Mafia. It's going to take a while for the nerds to really go through it and figure
00:36:49.720
it out. Oh, Candace Owens been through it, I bet. Has she been through it? I would assume. Well, she's too busy with the
00:36:52.860
Macron thing. I watched two hours of that today. Me too. Have you seen her? Macron's a man.
00:36:59.440
Yeah, Bridget McCrone's a man. She got you. Yeah, she got me. Candace got me. She got me hook, line,
00:37:03.880
sinker. I was eating breakfast today. Yeah, I do. I was eating elk steaks, watching Candace Owens on my
00:37:10.360
YouTube. I love her. Did you see? I was like, this is crazy. This is crazy. Have you dived into
00:37:15.360
Harvey Weinstein? I watched the first episode of that. Bro. Crazy. It's crazy. So you can't believe
00:37:21.360
I'm on Harvey Weinstein's side. Right? Crazy. Like, I thought he was, like, guilty of, like, heinous
00:37:27.440
crimes. And then you listen to it and you're like, wait, what? What is going on? When they go through the
00:37:31.500
actual affidavit and, like, what the girls accuse him for, you're like, what the fuck? So the emails back and forth
00:37:36.500
with the girl. Yeah, she was talking about his testicles. He doesn't have them.
00:37:41.560
And I would also now like to make you guys aware, because this is something that she's not sharing,
00:37:45.280
because people then emailed me and told me that she's intentionally trying to get people not to
00:37:49.160
watch the Harvey series. She has a relationship with Jessica Mann. And so it's very disingenuous
00:37:54.880
to speak about that case and to say, oh, I couldn't be interested in this again. I covered it extensively.
00:37:59.500
And not to also tell your audiences, Jessica, Reed Krause, that you lived with Jessica Mann
00:38:05.340
throughout the trial. You lived with her for a couple of weeks throughout the trial.
00:38:08.800
You guys are still friends. You follow her on Instagram. You're repping her to some capacity
00:38:12.620
by reaching out to me. This is Jessica Mann, the correct Jessica Mann's Instagram. And she follows
00:38:18.720
House and Habit and House and Habit follows her and they have a relationship. So it is not authentic
00:38:23.760
moms that she is telling you not to get into this series or pretending that she's too bored and couldn't
00:38:27.760
care about it. To me, it feels like she's doing PR for somebody that she has a personal
00:38:31.200
relationship with. And I think it's crappy. I think it's crappy. I think it's dishonest.
00:38:35.340
And it is especially crappy when you have someone who's done nothing but support you.
00:38:39.440
I swear it was last week when I was promoting something that House and Habit did and only
00:38:44.580
discovered that she's like planning an attack on me and my husband for absolutely no reason
00:38:48.740
other than the fact that it's Tuesday. And I don't trust that she also went after Tucker
00:38:53.040
Carlson in the same week that everybody is going after Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson.
00:38:57.500
And I just wonder what specifically is motivating that or who specifically is motivating that?
00:39:02.140
Is she being paid by someone to do that, to go after? Because she tries to make it sound like
00:39:06.560
Tucker's being funded by the Middle East and, you know, Candace Owens is trying to change up her
00:39:10.980
brand. Absolutely no one who has watched myself thinks that I'm trying to change my brand.
00:39:16.000
I do think for the first time we have fractured trust in the mainstream media and people that
00:39:20.880
weren't normally listening to me because they thought that I was just some like
00:39:23.940
Trump, you know, worshipping person who hates black people, which is crazy. But they did a very
00:39:31.000
good job of creating the media, did a very good job of creating that caricature of me.
00:39:35.120
And it usually just takes one thing that you have in common with someone or something that
00:39:39.300
you're interested in. And if you listen to them by yourself and you don't listen to them
00:39:43.240
through the lens of the mainstream media, you go, oh, actually, that wasn't what I was expecting.
00:39:48.500
I kind of believed the mainstream media about this person and now I don't.
00:39:51.300
And Andrew Schultz, another person who has credited my work, who also happens to be a
00:39:56.620
guy, guys seem to be a lot friendlier, said the same thing. He said the exact same thing
00:40:01.700
on Theo Vaughn's podcast recently. Here's what he had to say.
00:40:04.740
You know, the Candace Baldoni stuff. I don't know if you were following that at all.
00:40:08.020
I didn't get into that. I don't get into a lot of the celebrity lore.
00:40:11.040
The only reason why it's interesting to me is that, you know, like Candace has like been
00:40:15.280
positioned in a way on the Internet, right? Like and she existed there and people
00:40:21.080
had her opinions on her and like everybody was stuck. They're like, that's this girl
00:40:25.820
and bad. No, no, no, no, no. We don't listen to her at all. And she started talking about
00:40:30.240
that Baldoni Blake Lively thing. And even my wife was hitting me like, have you heard this
00:40:36.320
Candace Owens girl talking about? I mean, she just exposes the whole thing. Like it's crazy
00:40:40.180
how like like social utility frames how people see you. So you could be a bad guy and then you
00:40:47.580
start talking in depth about something that people care about. And then all of a sudden,
00:40:52.000
while you're talking about that, you're a good guy. You're a hero.
00:41:01.140
I feel like that's a much more thoughtful analysis on what happens. Like, what does it
00:41:05.100
actually say about us that we are unwilling to listen to somebody until we find something
00:41:09.580
that we agree with them on? And but again, that's a male analysis. I feel like women just
00:41:14.960
cannot play in the sandpit together. And again, I promise you, I was not. I didn't even know what
00:41:19.260
your style was. I am I am sorry that you felt that way, Jessica. And I bid you tons of luck in
00:41:26.520
the future. But I'm going to continue to cover this case because I'm just interested in it. I hope
00:41:29.720
that's OK. But at the same time, by the way, these exact same headlines came out at the same time that
00:41:35.000
she sent this newsletter. Here was the bulwark, the shocking reemergence of Candace Owens banished the
00:41:40.700
political wilderness over anti-Semitic remarks. That's just not true. My show, since we have been
00:41:45.660
back, has been successful. The Wall Street Journal literally just produced a piece and said that in
00:41:49.940
Q4 of last year, we were the third most listened to podcast. My show came back in June. I was off
00:41:56.840
air for like two months. I just don't understand like why everyone's pretending like I've reemerged.
00:42:01.760
So weird. And similarly, MSNBC also attacked me and Megyn Kelly, how right wing influencers are
00:42:07.540
exploiting the Justin Baldoni-Blake Lively feud, again, ignoring the fact that my biggest audience
00:42:12.380
is watching the Brigitte McCrone series right now. So and the Kamala Chronicles, which they all just
00:42:17.300
tried to ignore. And so I think what it is, is people don't want to admit that cancel culture
00:42:22.640
has failed. That's what's actually failed here. Cancel culture has failed. And the media doesn't
00:42:26.760
know what to do with the fact that despite their hideous attacks on people's character and their
00:42:30.620
lies about people, that people are now getting around them and deciding what they want to listen to.
00:42:35.540
And so I'm going to get you to cover the things I love because I've always covered the things that
00:42:39.300
I've loved. And I just have always sat at the intersection of politics and culture. So I do
00:42:45.040
a Brigitte series, a Kamala series, a Blake and Baldoni series. It's who I am. And some people don't
00:42:50.340
want to be here for that. And that's fine. But yeah, I suggest, by the way, if you're watching,
00:42:55.760
you get into the Jessica Mann, Harvey Weinstein case because it's absolutely fascinating. And he's
00:43:01.900
about to be back into court on April 15th. We will definitely have that for you. I will be
00:43:06.540
jumping back into the JFK stuff. I kind of left you guys in a cliffhanger last Thursday.
00:43:10.840
We didn't even scratch the surface. We actually didn't even talk about any of the JFK files. We
00:43:13.680
just talked about Reuven Shillowa or maybe it's Shiloh. Who knows? It's a made up last name. It's
00:43:18.260
not his real last name. It doesn't really matter. But then someone pointed out to me that his real last
00:43:23.180
name is Zelensky. And I fell down a hole. I fell down a hole, guys. OK, because I've had a lot of
00:43:30.660
questions about President Zelensky and where this guy comes from and his shady background. And now
00:43:35.400
I'm I don't know. I'm just telling you what one of you guys emailed me and what I have been looking
00:43:40.320
at since. It is crazy. OK, there's a lot. What we uncovered last Thursday was a lot. And my brain is
00:43:47.200
going everywhere because I got to cover Harvey Weinstein. I got to cover this now. I got JFK files. I still
00:43:52.480
got this lawsuit that I'm I'm convinced I'm in, but I'm not in with Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively
00:43:59.000
and everybody. It's a lot. It is very hard being me. OK, but somebody's got to do it. So we'll have
00:44:04.620
more for you on the Reuven Zelensky with an A. Zelensky. Yeah. Mm hmm. I'm having trouble locating who
00:44:12.780
his father is. They say he was a big rabbi. But for whatever reason, when I type in that rabbi's name,
00:44:17.680
it's not coming up. They say he wrote tons of books. But for whatever reason, when I type in
00:44:21.860
Reuven Shiloha's dad, Zelensky's name, it's not coming up. So we need to research this,
00:44:28.820
guys. If you guys who watch the JFK episode last Thursday, you know what I'm talking about.
00:44:34.140
We got to figure out who who or what other names they went by, because my feeling is that these
00:44:39.360
people had multiple names and identities, different names in America than they used in
00:44:43.420
Israel, different names than they used when they were in Eastern Europe. That's my theory.
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Let's hear what you guys are saying. First and foremost, reminding you, Shot in the Dark,
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another episode just came out. This one is on the hepatitis A vaccine. So you can head to
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CandiceOwens.com and watch that if you are a member. And yeah, let's get into some of your
00:47:24.760
comments and see what you guys are saying. A lot going on. I haven't even barely scratched the
00:47:29.360
surface. Brooke says, so glad you're alive. Comedian Christina P recently shouted you out on the
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Your Mom's House podcast regarding Becoming Brigitte. Would you ever go on their podcast
00:47:38.380
to discuss? Yes. I want to say this. They actually reached out and we want to make it happen.
00:47:43.000
They want us initially to come down. They're based in Texas. And I was just like, ooh,
00:47:47.140
end of pregnancy. I'm trying to limit travel. So I'm really just doing this. I have one LA trip that
00:47:52.340
I have coming up and then that's it. I really should be doing no more trips, but I guess I'm a crazy
00:47:56.360
person. But I am going to make it work with them. Just want to say that publicly. Absolutely. We'll be
00:48:01.100
doing your mom's house podcast. I love how into it she was. She just was all about it.
00:48:05.640
And that's how it gets you. All you have to do is watch the first couple episodes of any of my
00:48:09.180
series and you realize that I'm just telling the truth. I have nothing to hide here. And I'm happy
00:48:14.300
to let somebody else on if they'd like to dispute it. That's why when House of Habit reached out and
00:48:18.520
I thought it was mellow meaning, I was like, if Jessica Mann wants to say we've got something wrong,
00:48:22.620
we are not interested in smearing her or libeling her. I'm just reading homegirls emails. That's all.
00:48:27.180
Allie writes, best way to tell if the media source is not credible when they refer to Candace as a
00:48:33.000
right wing conspiracy theorist based in misinformation. Happy to see you're feeling
00:48:37.360
better. Yeah, I'm operating at about, I would say, 70 percent today, not 100 percent. I still can't
00:48:42.220
like eat a full meal, but I'm feeling better as in I had I got a little IV and at least I've got
00:48:48.700
fluids in me, which is great. The Deidre Experience writes, hypothetically speaking, if Ryan were gay,
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why would he seemingly be so incensed and jealous over Blake's interaction and feelings and concerns
00:48:58.760
over Justin? I actually thought that was more a symptom of his like type A control than anything
00:49:03.880
else where like he's created a certain life for himself. And I think he has spoken about his
00:49:08.960
control issues and how they began to manifest because of his bad relationship with his father.
00:49:13.920
And I think he has daddy issues like all around. Even he probably has a weird
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daddy vibe relationship with Hugh Jackman. Didn't do Heffman. See, I'm learning, you guys. I slow it
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down now when I say Hugh, but I think he probably likes that Hugh is older and feels like he, I don't
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know, gets some sort of I don't know. I don't know how to say it like advice from him. Like he's like
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an advice, a mentor, a mentorship from him that he is lacking because he never solved his issues with
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his father. I'm not a psychoanalyst. Don't want to be one. But that's just me guessing and riffing
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here. ASMR Random says, first, I want to start off by saying I love you and Christ is king. Did you
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hear about the bio women only gym being open in London? The trans community is planning to destroy
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and riot once it opens. I did not hear about that. And I will have to look into that. That's crazy
00:50:09.340
that women are not allowed to have spaces anymore. I think it is totally fine for there to be an all
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male space and totally fine for there to be an all women's space and totally fine if a trans person
00:50:19.860
wants to decide that there's going to be a space that's just for them. I think that should be totally
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fine. I have an issue that it's always about destroying women's spaces. It doesn't make any
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sense to me. Moki writes, when I was younger, everything pointed toward me being conservative.
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But once I left my church and went to college, I was brainwashed. I used to hate you without even
00:50:40.420
watching you. Now you're my fave content creator. Praise God. Thank you. I'm so glad. Like I say,
00:50:45.060
if people watch my content as opposed to reading articles about my content, they tend to stick
00:50:49.700
around and see that I'm pretty even keel. Even if you don't agree with me, I'll tell you rationally
00:50:53.680
why I think something. And then you're allowed to just be like, I don't agree because you shouldn't
00:50:57.360
agree with everything I say. But yeah, the media is problematic for sure. They turn everybody into
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like the devil. Basically, they're like, she's Satan. She's terrible. And obviously they are
00:51:10.120
extremely hyperbolic. And what they're really fighting for is control for themselves. And
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they're losing it. I think liars are losing big time this year. Chelsea Dominguez writes,
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I found the witness tree and ordered it. It was very expensive. And there were only four copies
00:51:23.040
on the website just received an email that they can't send it to me now. And the other books
00:51:27.880
disappeared. Oh, wow. Wow. I am not shocked at all. Oh, we got to talk. I wish I had read that
00:51:35.220
comment on tomorrow's show. Somebody sent me a PDF of it and I have not started reading it because
00:51:39.940
I have been dying the last two days, but I intend to start reading it tonight. So I'm going to dive
00:51:44.040
into it. Why is the CIA all over this book, the witness tree? What am I going to learn? Gosh,
00:51:49.240
Leah writes, Canis, your show is still top 10 on Spotify despite no show for six days.
00:51:53.860
Woo. That's amazing. That means people are watching the old stuff. And yeah,
00:51:57.820
I'm very grateful for you guys constantly downloading the podcast and listening to it and
00:52:01.860
supporting the show and supporting us even when we're sick. And I know that we are kind of marching
00:52:06.260
towards the plank here with maternity leave and I'm going to miss you guys, but we will be back
00:52:10.460
stronger than ever. We're already thinking about other series to do, maybe even doing a Becoming
00:52:14.620
Brigitte part two because it's just been so viral globally and we could have never predicted the
00:52:19.520
success of that. We have Harvey's case coming up, which again, I implore you to look into that
00:52:24.480
because I think House of Habit trying to get people not to watch Harvey Speaks is of interest
00:52:30.740
because she didn't mention her personal relationship with one of the quote unquote victims, Jessica Mann.
00:52:36.200
Anyways, you guys, I am going to get some rest. For the book club people, I wanted to tell you,
00:52:40.520
oh wait, by the way, we have new merch. Look how great our anti-feminist hats are.
00:52:45.340
This is just, come on. That is just, this is great. It's fantastic. If you're listening to this
00:52:51.420
audio, I just put on an anti-feminist cap. It's white. It is pristine. It looks amazing. And you
00:52:56.540
can get it at CandaceOwens.com or ClubCandace.com. ClubCandace.com, right? Yeah. I don't know. Both
00:53:02.220
probably all leads to the same place. And yeah, this is also happening. Somebody said,
00:53:08.140
please do Brigitte too in the comments. Yeah. I think I didn't even like tap the surface of the
00:53:12.980
Brigitte story. What could I have possibly shared that just totally made Joe Rogan realize by episode two
00:53:19.760
that she was a dude. I mean, yeah, because everything you were told was a lie. And it's
00:53:24.700
crazy how much the media can cover while attacking the people that are trying to tell the truth.
00:53:28.620
All of it is just an absolute madness. Oh, I love this. Julie says she needs the hat.
00:53:32.860
Yeah, Julie, you definitely need the hat. And I need rest. So whichever person was cracking the whip
00:53:38.100
and sent you guys an email, I was, I obviously had nothing to do with the email that got sent out
00:53:41.780
yesterday saying that we would do the book club today. I cannot. I just need to recoup still and get a
00:53:47.040
little bit of sleep. So I asked him to bump it to next week. I think the person was my husband.
00:53:51.340
I think my husband said, oh, she'll be back tomorrow. And no, I love you, sweetheart. But
00:53:55.960
I got to bump it to next week. I had a little bit of relaxation and sleep. And so I'm back to 100%.
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But thank you guys who were concerned, the real internet sleuths. Like, you know, if anything
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happens, you know, you don't know, no, but you know, and that's all that matters. We'll see you