Hugh Jackman will be deposed in the Blake Lively case and Ryan Reynolds is a little nervous. Also, Harvey Weinstein has given a major public shout out to Harvey Weinstein and the Daily Mail and the New York Post for looking at his case objectively. Also a new twist in the Hugh Jackman vs Justin Baldoni saga.
00:00:00.000All right, guys, happy Friday. You made it to the end of another week, and it is a happy Friday indeed because Christ is King is still trending over on X. I absolutely love it. I'll give you a bit of an update on my thoughts. I truly think that it was another good thing in the end.
00:00:14.220And what else do we have for you guys today? Well, Harvey Weinstein has given me a major public shout out in the Daily Mail and the New York Post for looking at his case objectively, and I appreciate that. Also, I, of course, have an update for you all on the Blake Lively case because we are learning that Hugh Jackman, Wolverine, will be deposed.
00:00:31.680And I suspect that that might be making Ryan Reynolds extremely nervous, and I'll tell you why. On that note, Judge Lehman has come back with a firm answer on the attorney's eyes only designation that we discussed. So are we getting these Taylor Swift tech messages? Yes or no? Let's find out. Welcome back to Candace.
00:02:01.680Deadpool and Wolverine, where Nice Pool was introduced and then abused and then assassinated in a very graphic overdone manner because ha ha ha, that's really funny to kill people that you have an issue with in real life by turning them into characters.
00:02:17.140It is highly unlikely, therefore, that Hugh Jackman was not therefore aware, at least aware of why his quote unquote best friend, Ryan Reynolds, was writing in all of these lines, especially because we did the timeline and we showed you that this was not initially supposed to be a part of their principal filming.
00:02:37.080And then they went back and they did some filming after the SAG-AFTRA strike and somebody had admitted that they had done all of that dog poo, dog pool filming.
00:02:46.940I said dog poo, that too. Dog pool filming at the very end of the movie.
00:02:52.300So it's interesting. It's very interesting. Hugh would have known exactly what his best friend was thinking, especially because it wasn't a part of the larger plot of the movie.
00:03:02.080Hugh Jackman was also in the now infamously cringe, it ends with us promotional skit that had nothing to do with promoting the movie, which was about domestic violence where Ryan directed it and he brought in his mom and Blake was in the background.
00:03:17.320We learned that. But he also brought in his best friend because he just wanted a little bit of A-list power there.
00:03:22.760And when you're really obviously trying to be a high school bully, you want to be like, we're the cool kids and you're nothing.
00:03:28.160What better way to make him uncomfortable than to promote his movie, him being Justin Baldoni's movie, and bring in an A-lister to mock him.
00:03:36.360And so Hugh Hefner played himself, Ryan's quote unquote best friend, as he was speaking to Brandon Sklenar.
00:03:42.780And Brandon Sklenar is, of course, supposed to be Justin Baldoni.
00:03:47.280Let's take a listen to 20 seconds of that clip just to remind, jog your memory rather, on what exactly Hugh Hefner said.
00:03:56.220It's not every day a guy gets to interview the love interest of his best friend's wife and the guy trying to replace Ryan as a husband and me as his best mate.
00:04:27.520What would that conversation have been on the way to the premiere as they made Justin Baldoni go really, really early and then stuffed him in the basement.
00:04:34.680Again, this was all just meant to be a power display.
00:04:56.320It says surprising new twist in Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni legal battle as Hugh Jackman is pulled in to the saga.
00:05:04.320And then it tells us that, according to a source, Hugh Jackman is going to be deposed before the trial because Baldoni's legal team wants to get the full scope of Reynolds conduct during the time that it ends with us was being filmed.
00:05:19.240An insider also told the Mail that, quote, Hugh will be deposed if this goes to trial.
00:05:25.720Baldoni's legal team is doing everything they need to get a full scope of Ryan's conduct during the time that it ends with us was filmed.
00:05:32.300As Ryan's good friend who starred in the film and was with Blake and Ryan many times in private during that time, his deposition will likely be crucial.
00:05:41.440They are not leaving any stone unturned.
00:05:44.440Now, I'm going to tell you why this is interesting to me, because I have a lot of questions about Ryan Reynolds' bromances, his various bromances over the years.
00:05:53.200We've talked about him and Jake Gyllenhaal.
00:05:55.600And obviously, this has been a bromance that has been very much thrown in the public's face.
00:06:01.200Ryan's kind of perpetually highly publicizing his bromances is something that I find to be quite strange, right?
00:06:07.700Mostly because he's a 48-year-old man, Ryan Reynolds.
00:06:10.860He has four kids, and he seems to dedicate a lot of time and resources, like financial resources, to trying to convince the public that these bromances are perfectly normal.
00:06:22.780And we're not really asking for that convincing.
00:06:24.960Like, I don't need people to convince me that guys can hang out with one another, but he feels like he has to make that effort.
00:06:34.360I mean, notoriously, that's the reason why he flew out Liz Plank, Justin Baldoni's podcast partner, flew her all the way over, presumably to the UK, to provide her expert testimony as to why bromances are, like, totally chill, right?
00:07:09.620And so the fact that we need a term to describe two men going out to dinner, I think, is very revealing about what men are allowed or are not allowed to do
00:07:20.300and how much self-policing there is when it comes to their relationships with other men.
00:07:25.800So bromance is almost this permission for men to connect and to show love to each other because it's like a joke.
00:07:36.280So I'll ask the question, who out there needed that to be explained to them?
00:07:41.400Like, who needed this justification paid for to bring in an expert to tell you that guys can go out to dinner and it's totally chill?
00:07:48.700It's a weird thing for them to be trying to constantly tell us.
00:07:52.240And he's always playing this role of kind of making a lot of gay jokes and, like, trying to normalize all of this, all of these gay jokes.
00:08:00.960But nobody's actually asking him to do that, not the gay community or the heterosexual community.
00:08:07.380And this is why this is interesting because regarding Hugh Jackman, in case you were unaware, he recently divorced his wife of 27 years.
00:09:29.840And we'll get into that in my book club when we read Hollywood Babylon.
00:09:32.720Anyways, people really began upping the questioning of his sexuality after he played this really flamboyant character in the Broadway play, The Boy from Oz.
00:09:44.760The story is about an openly gay singer-songwriter named Peter Allen.
00:09:48.460And what stood out to them in that production was the fact that Hugh Jackman opted to kiss his male co-star throughout this production, even though in the original screenplay, there was no kiss between the male stars.
00:10:03.920So it was just sort of gratuitously added, which I hope there was an intimacy coordinator.
00:10:11.120Anyways, here's a little snippet of that play.
00:10:18.460And the rumors just kept happening and kept happening throughout his career.
00:10:29.660They became so persistent and consistent that it culminated in an interview on 60 Minutes Australia where he and his wife at the time, Deborah Furness, responded.
00:10:40.420And she was quite frustrated about people always asking whether or not her husband was, in fact, gay.
00:12:11.400And I'll tell you where it gets weird.
00:12:12.920So they instantly started seeding this rumor like, yo, well, maybe he got divorced because he's in this relationship with Sutton Foster.
00:12:18.860But then he moved to set up a paparazzi shot with People magazine, like an exclusive paparazzi shot in People magazine of him and Sutton Foster walking hand in hand down the street so that they could confirm the rumors of them dating publicly.
00:12:36.820So this is where it says exclusive Hugh Jackman, Sutton Foster step out hand in hand for dinner date.
00:12:41.520And then you can see People magazine, People's photos, exclusive People photos.
00:12:46.280Here they are just like kind of the perfect.
00:12:49.040I don't know, like I walk, hold my husband's hand over like looking at it.
00:12:52.040That one really kills me, this photo right here where they're just kind of like staring into each other's eyes and smiling.
00:12:57.280And they both are dressed kind of perfectly and walking down the street.
00:13:01.080I think in most circumstances when you're dating someone and holding hands or married to someone holding hands, you're just going to have like a weird face.
00:13:09.040And you're like getting out of the car, probably like you're arguing.
00:13:14.180You really have something like in your eye and people like what's going on.
00:13:17.120But they're like perfectly glamorous coming out of this restaurant.
00:13:20.020And so other publications even pointed out that this was clearly a staged photo op that was done in this effort to hard launch their relationship to the public.
00:13:28.380And then 36 hours later, they were photographed again laughing and smiling on a morning walk in Los Angeles, which is like one of the favorite fake pap shots.
00:13:36.520It's like we caught them on a walk once again captured and distributed by the same magazine.
00:13:42.340People magazine seems to be always there for them.
00:13:45.040That's likely the connection for whoever the PR agents are for the most of that both of them.
00:13:48.900And they are smiling and looking right at the camera on this totally natural walk.
00:13:54.840OK, so my question would just be if you are in a real relationship, why would you have to do this?
00:13:59.320Why would you have to have your PR agents elect to catch you holding someone's hand and smiling perfectly?
00:14:06.620Anyway, so back to Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds, they're in this bromance at the time they separate from his wife.
00:14:12.260And you just wonder if that's also partially the reason why Blake's team is adamant that they need this AEO determination, right?
00:14:21.540They want this the judge to agree to an attorney's eyes only designation to protect, as they term it, highly confidential information that could destroy the careers of the third party people that are involved.
00:14:37.920OK, so third party, meaning they're not listed in this lawsuit as plaintiffs or defendants, but they're third parties and they're going to get deposed and we're going to get to subpoena some information.
00:14:47.860And they're going like, we need this AEO designation because their careers would be ruined if the public found something out about them.
00:14:55.560It just makes you ask what truth could be so poisonous to someone's career that if revealed it would be over.
00:15:03.420It would have to be that in some manner or another, that person is a fraud, right?
00:15:07.500In some manner or another, that person is a fraud.
00:15:10.440So whether it's how they're publicly presenting their sexuality, whether it's how they're publicly presenting their brand, a la Taylor Swift, I'm a nice girl.
00:15:17.600And then you find out she's actually a really mean girl.
00:15:20.280That would be ruinous to her career, right?
00:15:25.440You invest in these people because you think they're telling you the truth and you would just be shocked by that.
00:15:30.920So I'll tell you, Judge Lehman has reached a decision about that designation.
00:15:36.760Now, just to briefly remind you, what they wanted that for was essentially to remove the judge from the process of declaring documents AEO, Attorneys Eyes Only.
00:15:48.040So Blake Lively's team was like, we want to be able to decide by ourselves as attorneys that this text message between Taylor and Blake Lively is AEO, which means no one else can see it but the attorneys.
00:15:58.640Nice. And we don't need to go to the judges chambers to duke that out.
00:16:03.660It's like if we say it is, you just got to go with us.
00:16:05.960Essentially, they become their own judges.
00:16:08.180And obviously, Blake, Justin Baldoni's team said, no, we don't want that.
00:16:12.620We just want this to be like a limited scope confidential confidentiality agreement.
00:16:16.940And the court protective order, the standard court protective order, should suffice.
00:16:21.740Well, Judge Lehman came back with a decision to allow a limited AEO, which I think is exactly what Justin Baldoni's team was asking for.
00:16:30.900Certainly not what Blake's team wanted because the judge will still be involved.
00:16:33.860If the attorneys disagree on that designation, then they're going to have to go to the judge and they're going to have to duke it out and argue that this does not deserve to be attorney's eyes only.
00:16:43.540And it's relevant to my case. So we're going to take a look at that order.
00:16:47.620Here are the four points in which the judge is saying under a limited scope, they will be allowed to mark attorney's eyes only, assuming the two attorneys agree.
00:16:56.720A, they have trade secrets, confidential business plans, marketing plans and strategies for clients other than the parties in this litigation, confidential business projects or leads on projects for clients other than the parties in this litigation.
00:17:10.260Confidential, confidential, confidential, confidential, confidential, confidential, confidential, creative projects or ideas other than those involved in this litigation.
00:17:14.780Of course, nobody wants that. Nobody cares if, you know, Hugh Jackman, we find out in a text, is working on a project with Lady Gaga.
00:17:21.600I don't know. That's not exactly relevant.
00:17:24.260And of course, he should be able to keep that as proprietary to his business plans.
00:17:28.000B, you have security measures taken by parties or third parties.
00:17:32.900Of course, we don't really need to know who they're using for security, how they're getting in and out of places that we just don't need it.
00:17:40.720C, medical information of parties or third parties.
00:17:43.600Again, that is an obvious designation.
00:17:46.540Like, no. And it wouldn't be ruinous to their career, by the way, necessarily.
00:17:50.200But, like, it's just not our business to know what ailments they're facing, what drugs they're taking.
00:17:57.320And D, highly personal and intimate information about third parties and highly personal and intimate information.
00:18:05.800That's very interesting about parties other than information that is directly relevant to the truth or falsity of any allegation in the complaints in this case.
00:18:16.460And I think D is where it's going to get choppy in the judges' chambers.
00:18:21.980I think that they're not going to agree on this, right?
00:18:24.800Because, I mean, what happens if a text message, as we said, like intimate relationships?
00:18:29.400What happens if there's a text message, like I said, Taylor Swift, which is coming out of a relationship with Joe Alwyn, Hugh Hefman, which is coming out of this relationship with Deborah Furness.
00:18:37.760They're talking to their quote-unquote best friends.
00:18:40.880What if it comes out that, I don't know, I'm making this text up completely, but Taylor Swift texts Blake Lively and says,
00:18:59.080And then probably what's going to happen is Blake's team is going to argue that's ruinous to Taylor Swift's career, and then you're going to have Brian Friedman in the chambers like, excuse me, this is unbelievably relevant because it's showing that this was a part of a larger plan to harm him, and they were using this example of what she did to Joe Alwyn.
00:19:19.580Like, that's the kind of stuff where it's going to get very dicey.
00:19:21.620These attorneys are not going to agree on what's relevant to the case because I tend to agree with Brian Friedman.
00:20:12.480And I think right now, if I'm Blake's team, I'm thinking about folding.
00:20:16.820I'm like, I'm not really comfortable with this.
00:20:18.980And I don't feel confident about this.
00:20:21.360And maybe it's time to fold and talk about settlement.
00:20:24.920I'll also show you this really quickly on page nine of the judge's decision.
00:20:29.080He writes, before the parties make an AEO designation, the protective order places on them the burden of determining that the information is not directly relevant to an allegation in the pleadings, which is essentially him saying, like, you are going to have to explain to us why you don't think it's relevant to the pleadings for us to know this.
00:20:49.600I think it's all obviously not health information, but you can't really get into somebody's mindset.
00:20:54.260And if you don't understand the communications they were having with their friends while they were doing these promo skits, while they were talking, while he was talking to his mom about reading those lines, like we need to see all of that.
00:21:33.180And this was this actually premiered in the Daily Mail that she's allegedly in hiding, that she's very concerned about being pulled into this case.
00:21:42.480Again, I will ask the question, what is it that she is so fearful of?
00:21:48.120Because I would not be fearful to be pulled into a case.
00:21:51.900I feel like I conduct myself in private as I conduct myself in public.
00:21:57.020And so they're basically saying she's aware of all the speculation of what's happening.
00:22:01.240She doesn't want to she doesn't want to get dragged into this case.
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00:42:46.400And it is because of how firm he is in the faith that I can be so firm in my faith, even as someone who very much considers myself to be a beginner
00:42:54.660and likely to make so many mistakes here.
00:42:57.060And I feel like, ah, I have a platform.
00:42:58.980And I don't want to make those mistakes because people will go, see, she doesn't do this right or doesn't know what's right.
00:43:04.540So I always just ask people to just, you know, give me time and know that I am doing the work as best as I can.
00:43:09.420But I will always defend us when the fight is brought to me, as I did yesterday.
00:43:13.760So with all that said, you guys, on Monday, we jump back into our Harvey Speaks series.
00:43:20.420So be sure, if you have time over this weekend, to get to the beginning of this.
00:43:23.260It is so great to see people saying in the comments that I've completely changed their mind on it.
00:43:27.320As I told you I would, because I don't look at cases unless I really feel that there is something there.
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