Candace Owens - May 11, 2026


Update! Erika Did Not Go Home. Source Confirms AI Voice Tactics. ｜ Candace Ep 336


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00:00:30.000 All right, you guys. Happy Monday. Update for you. Erica Kirk did not, in fact, go home.
00:00:37.180 I just have to say, no one bounces back faster from shootings than Erica Kirk. She really is
00:00:42.660 remarkable in that way. This time, after saying she wanted to go home, us enduring a lecture
00:00:48.200 about how she needed to go home to her family, she bounced over to Michigan to address the
00:00:54.300 graduating class of Hillsdale College in a commencement speech. It's just, it's all over
00:00:58.560 replace the messaging, right? She's too scared to get on a plane by herself. Secret service can't
00:01:03.140 protect her. Oh, now she doesn't have secret service and she's back on stage out of school.
00:01:07.080 Nonetheless, I don't know what to think, guys. What you should know is she was awarded an honorary
00:01:15.160 doctorate. The internet has a lot to say about that. Also, we got to discuss this Charlie GPT
00:01:21.980 thing that we have been hinting at because it's looking like there may be more legs to the story
00:01:28.180 thanks to a source which came forward.
00:01:30.300 You know, that infamous recording of Charlie saying,
00:01:33.140 I appoint Erica Kirk.
00:01:34.700 We're going to discuss that.
00:01:35.620 And lastly, Nick Shirley.
00:01:37.260 Do you remember him?
00:01:37.800 We mentioned him one time on this show.
00:01:40.760 Well, he went on to Patrick Bette-David's show
00:01:43.940 and said that I came for him.
00:01:45.960 It's feeling a little over-the-top dramatic,
00:01:47.840 but I'd like to actually address
00:01:49.760 what his general presence in the media space
00:01:52.940 signifies more broadly speaking,
00:01:54.940 because it is important.
00:01:56.760 Welcome back to Candace.
00:01:58.180 first and foremost happy belated mother's day to all of the mothers out there i hope you enjoyed
00:02:17.240 special treatment i know andrew colvette had a bit of a day bizarre trend over on x so it looks
00:02:23.740 like Project Constitution, reported that Andrew Colvett was getting a divorce, and it was just
00:02:30.960 not true. The basis of the report was not true. But boy, oh boy, did all of Turning Point USA
00:02:37.060 rise up to defend Andrew Colvett's honor. I mean, Andrew himself hit back hard immediately.
00:02:44.740 He basically turned into Will Smith at the Oscars. He wrote this,
00:02:49.680 LOL, you wish, fat boy.
00:02:52.200 And then he says, keep my wife's name out of your mouth
00:02:55.460 and off your feed and you'll have more problems
00:02:58.960 or you'll have more problems than you bargained for.
00:03:01.660 To everyone else, happy Mother's Day.
00:03:03.820 And yeah, we can pull that clip in
00:03:05.060 because it was definitely giving that energy of Will Smith.
00:03:07.620 If you want to play that clip.
00:03:09.560 Keep my wife's name out your f***ing mouth.
00:03:15.880 Yeah, that was the energy of that.
00:03:17.660 And then it wasn't left there. Tyler Boyer then jumped in into the parade to further defend Andrew's honor over a divorce rumor. I'm like, this is just like, I wake up and there are rumors about me getting a divorce. But Tyler Boyer said, we have had numerous things like this said about us. It is reckless disregard for truth from people who call themselves investigators.
00:03:39.600 Okay, never one to be left behind.
00:03:43.220 Blakey Neff jumped in.
00:03:45.040 He wrote back to Project Constitution,
00:03:47.140 you are not very smart, are you?
00:03:49.980 And then when somebody asked a question
00:03:52.720 about why Andrew's wife was not
00:03:55.700 at the White House Correspondents' Dinner,
00:03:57.680 Blake Neff insisted, he wrote back again,
00:04:00.640 this is just all, Blake Neff wrote,
00:04:03.500 instead of posting deranged rumor-mongering
00:04:05.240 at 7 a.m. on a Sunday morning,
00:04:06.560 have you considered that you could look this up
00:04:08.260 or use your brain.
00:04:09.800 White House correspondence dinners
00:04:10.880 are all held by press outlets.
00:04:12.780 Everyone else is there by invitation.
00:04:14.800 How do you even know he was offered a plus one?
00:04:17.820 Andrew lives in Phoenix and has three children.
00:04:19.780 How do you know his wife would want to fly
00:04:21.600 five hours across the country to attend one dinner?
00:04:26.000 Okay, so strong.
00:04:27.560 I, by the way, have never heard
00:04:28.720 that Andrew Colvett is divorcing his wife.
00:04:30.980 Like I said, bit of an aggressive response
00:04:33.700 for a divorce rumor,
00:04:34.920 which I literally think this happens like once a week
00:04:37.340 when you're in the public space.
00:04:39.300 Me, regarding that, I'm just forever amazed
00:04:42.040 at what Turning Point USA and their execs
00:04:44.740 choose to respond to
00:04:46.920 and the more important things
00:04:49.560 that they remain mum on, okay?
00:04:53.160 Like I said, apparently it was Project Constitution
00:04:54.940 who sourced this rumor
00:04:56.040 and they were happy to respond to it,
00:04:58.500 which means that they do not view him
00:05:00.220 as a psychopathic, knife-wielding subway killer.
00:05:04.040 So they responded, right?
00:05:05.420 Because it has been, according to our count, and I now have, I'm keeping the count here on our desk, 39 long days since we reported that donors who were present in Aspen assert that the audio which was shared by Turning Point USA of Charlie saying, I appoint my wife to run Turning Point USA if something happens to me, she'll do a great job, was faked.
00:05:32.380 This is what they are saying.
00:05:33.580 I'm reporting that.
00:05:34.420 They are saying that that was faked.
00:05:35.980 It never happened.
00:05:36.760 Charlie never said that.
00:05:37.620 And Turning Point, for some reason, is refusing to drop the video of that moment saying this, of Charlie saying this.
00:05:44.380 They're also refusing to even respond authoritatively.
00:05:47.380 They could simply respond and assert that it absolutely was not faked and that the donors are lying.
00:05:53.540 Their donors are lying.
00:05:54.500 Big donors are lying.
00:05:55.920 That feels a little bit suspicious to me.
00:05:57.800 In fact, Blake has specifically expressed concern, you will recall, that if they do drop it, people will say it's AI.
00:06:06.260 Wow, that's an oddly specific concern that you have about dropping this video.
00:06:13.900 And I got to tell you, the more I listen to it, the more AI it sounds to me.
00:06:19.260 Take a listen.
00:06:20.700 A lot of organizations and groups, as soon as a founder leaves, it just kind of collapses.
00:06:24.780 A lot of my job is not always in the day-to-day details.
00:06:29.320 It's very much vision casting, very much driving success.
00:06:33.540 But we have a great board, and God forbid if something happens, they'll figure it out.
00:06:36.620 I appoint my wife to run 20.USA if something happens to me.
00:06:39.380 Erica would do a great job.
00:06:40.700 I appoint my wife to run 20.USA if something happens to me.
00:06:43.480 Erica would do a great job.
00:06:44.760 I appoint my wife to run 20.USA if something happens to me.
00:06:47.580 Erica would do a great job.
00:06:51.060 It just doesn't flow when you hear it.
00:06:53.420 And it's also remarkably formal.
00:06:56.880 I appoint my wife if anything should happen to me.
00:06:58.980 It's like exactly the sentence that he needed to say he said, not just like, oh, Erica can do it.
00:07:04.660 Yeah, I mean, she'd be great at that, whatever.
00:07:07.200 Hopefully we don't have to think about that question until down the line.
00:07:10.020 But I appoint my wife to run Turning Point USA in the event that anything happens to me.
00:07:14.700 We would like a response on this.
00:07:17.340 Are the donors lying?
00:07:18.700 It's a possibility that for some reason the donors are conspiring to lie about this moment.
00:07:23.040 a simple yes or no would do as a starting place, right?
00:07:26.900 I think that would do just as a starting place.
00:07:29.280 Yes, they are lying.
00:07:30.060 No, they are not lying.
00:07:31.380 And the video, which I would like to point out,
00:07:35.600 Turning Point USA mentioned this video to us.
00:07:37.800 Erica herself told Megyn Kelly an emotional story
00:07:40.860 about what she felt like watching that video
00:07:43.460 for the first time.
00:07:44.440 The video of Charlie choosing her,
00:07:48.160 violating suddenly his every public statement
00:07:50.920 and sentiment that he had ever expressed in the past about women working complete 180 from his
00:07:57.840 prior positions, please just drop the video. It's all we ask. And we're asking politely, by the way.
00:08:04.240 And now we've learned even more interesting information because it turns out we can now
00:08:08.820 definitively state that Turning Point does use AI voices for their presentations. You will recall
00:08:15.520 In Aspen, Charlie was presenting two donors, and it turns out that Marcus Wada, we introduced you to this guy.
00:08:22.860 This is a Turning Point employee that's a rehabilitated former arms dealer, okay?
00:08:29.640 A former arms dealer who now works for Turning Point.
00:08:32.200 This is a thing.
00:08:32.760 A lot of them become pastors.
00:08:34.520 They find God, and they find Turning Point, like, at almost the same time.
00:08:38.320 and Marcus Wada, one of the things that he offers
00:08:42.080 is that he is able to create these AI voices
00:08:46.820 for them to use for their presentations.
00:08:48.700 So AI technology is what they currently use
00:08:52.580 to voice over their turning point presentations.
00:08:55.260 And typically, I am told they use the voice
00:08:58.400 of Pastor John Aman Chukwu.
00:09:01.080 So if you're at a turning point event
00:09:02.720 and you're hearing a presentation
00:09:03.860 and you hear a guy speaking over,
00:09:05.520 you're actually hearing Pastor John
00:09:07.220 is not actually recording that,
00:09:09.520 they're manipulating his voice,
00:09:11.200 I'm sure with his permission,
00:09:12.760 to speak over in the presentations.
00:09:14.760 They basically take someone's voice
00:09:16.580 and turn it into a narrator.
00:09:18.300 And that is, by the way, unique.
00:09:20.320 So it is an entirely reasonable question to ask,
00:09:25.480 was the same thing done for Charlie posthumously?
00:09:28.900 And I want to tell you the reason
00:09:30.440 why we are going to continue to ask this question
00:09:32.400 and why I'm keeping this on our desk now
00:09:34.340 is because it's crucial.
00:09:36.820 It's actually a crucial question.
00:09:39.220 I'm starting to already see the creep of people
00:09:41.280 who are trying to downplay the significance of that moment, right?
00:09:45.320 People pivoting to, well, even if it is AI, why does it matter?
00:09:50.400 I saw this.
00:09:51.300 This is just one example of it, but John Mappin,
00:09:53.640 who is the person who introduced Charlie to actually his biggest donor.
00:09:59.120 Charlie's biggest donor was introduced to him by John Mappin,
00:10:01.240 a donor so big that that donor was first in line on a list of donors
00:10:05.820 who received personal phone calls from the hospital
00:10:08.120 the day that Charlie died.
00:10:10.100 And John Mappin was similarly told,
00:10:12.660 he shared this on X,
00:10:14.140 that a donor who was at that Aspen event
00:10:17.100 said it never happened, okay?
00:10:18.980 It never happened.
00:10:19.780 So this is going around.
00:10:21.880 And when John Mappin shared that information,
00:10:23.700 he was met with a response from Kimberly Klasick.
00:10:26.640 She wrote this, question,
00:10:28.380 if the board elected Erica Kirk to be the CEO
00:10:30.880 and none of the donors have come forward
00:10:32.980 questioning the decision, why does it matter?
00:10:35.820 The donors that contacted you are more than capable of contacting Blake, she continued.
00:10:41.760 Okay, so I can answer that.
00:10:43.240 I can answer why it matters.
00:10:45.740 It matters because if it was in fact an AI audio and Erica was referring to an AI video
00:10:55.180 clip, which they in the end decided not to use, this would tell us exactly who and what
00:11:02.120 Erica Kirk is, okay?
00:11:03.320 It would put to rest any lingering questions that some people may have in the background if we are able to determine that she colluded to create a fake AI voice of her husband announcing her to take over his company.
00:11:19.520 If she was even emotionally capable of this, a mere weeks after he was horrifically and publicly murdered, if she was capable of then sitting across from Megyn Kelly and spinning a tale about her having seen this video and what it represented to her emotionally, a video which was never recorded because it never occurred, to justify her taking over the company that he built.
00:11:44.520 And if Erica was then able to shamelessly walk out to the sound of a voice of her husband, which she knew was doctored by AI, right, passing the torch to her, the company is mine, at Amfest, while she wore glittering pants, glittering pants suit and had fireworks going on behind her, she knew this was all AI and they planned this moment to make people feel emotional, then we would have our answer.
00:12:14.520 erica would be a confirmed ruthless psychopath okay you know that psychopath brandishing a weapon
00:12:22.360 uh that blake's concerned about that would be erica erica would be the kind of person that if
00:12:26.180 you see on a subway you should move if you're capable of that because that would mean she was
00:12:30.560 void of any and all human emotion capable of i am being clear i am not being dramatic
00:12:35.220 if this turns out to be real i would assert that she is capable of real harm she is dangerous
00:12:41.780 and I would extend that to every person around her
00:12:46.160 who approved that monstrous plan.
00:12:48.900 So that would be Blake Neff, Andrew Colvett.
00:12:50.960 We would be looking at a psychological profile of people
00:12:54.700 that I would suggest are very much capable
00:12:58.100 of cold-blooded murder, okay?
00:13:00.340 In my opinion, that this is my opinion,
00:13:02.560 I am asserting that if you have the ability to do that,
00:13:06.280 that's not just like, oh, husband died,
00:13:08.660 I wanted to sign some papers and steal the will.
00:13:10.380 it's like, how can we sell this to the public? We can create this AI video. You need to go out
00:13:14.280 and sell this to Megyn Kelly. Say you saw the video that, you know, you were pulled by it and
00:13:19.300 then you're going to go out and we're going to have Charlie say it, but we can't show the video
00:13:22.480 because the AI tech is not at the right place yet. So it's a little glitchy. So we can't show
00:13:27.040 the video. But like, as long as people hear his voice, they're going to be moved to tears. And
00:13:30.380 then we're going to bring out Nicki Minaj and this is going to be your moment, baby. So make
00:13:33.280 sure you have all that glitter and sparkles. If she was able to do that, truly take a second here
00:13:42.260 to just consider that in your mind. If we find that out, confirm, this is AI. What does that
00:13:49.460 signify about Erica? It signifies that she had that meeting, that it took place and she was able
00:13:55.180 to stomach it. She was able to stomach hearing her husband's voice intentionally manipulated
00:13:59.640 after he was ruthlessly murdered and she thought okay he's dead what can he do for me we can use
00:14:05.640 his voice to have him hand over the company so people will not blink and they will not ask
00:14:09.000 questions there was no reason to do it like i said that's what's even scarier the only purpose
00:14:14.160 was because she wanted people to accept her moving into his position and it's becoming increasingly
00:14:21.900 likely that that is the circumstance um it like i said would be beyond anything we've ever seen
00:14:26.800 a real-life horror movie, if it proves to be true. And I have to say, I do not believe there
00:14:34.520 is any upside to the donors lying to me. I don't see the upside. They loved Charlie. They went
00:14:42.600 there. They gave their money to Charlie. They don't need to be a part of this story. What is
00:14:47.740 the upside for donors to come forward and to say, Candace, keep pressing. This did not happen,
00:14:52.980 and I am certain it did not happen.
00:14:54.540 And it is terrifying me that you're saying
00:14:56.600 that they're out there telling people
00:15:00.360 that this happened in Aspen.
00:15:03.060 So you take your chance.
00:15:04.360 You guys can take your bets
00:15:05.460 on whether you believe Blake Neff
00:15:06.880 and his subway killer scenario
00:15:09.340 as the reason they won't release the video.
00:15:11.400 Anyway, moving on from that, a fun update.
00:15:13.940 Erica Kirk, maybe she's now Dr. Erica Kirk.
00:15:17.540 I know she said that she wanted to go home.
00:15:21.220 She says a lot of stuff.
00:15:22.020 she says a lot of stuff she's in drapes nobody knows why she told us that she was going to take
00:15:27.420 some time to be with her family then she came in dressed like Janet Jackson she yelled at me she
00:15:32.120 yelled at Drewski she yelled at you for the fact that she had to go confront the wine bottles that
00:15:36.500 were on the table and then like I'm taking a break but then actually now she's not taking a break
00:15:41.620 again it's a quick break and she's back she's always back very quickly and we're probably going
00:15:47.940 to get yelled at again, that she had to even go get the speech done for Hillsdale College.
00:15:53.060 Somehow it's always different. Erica can do whatever she wants. And we're just sort of left
00:15:56.840 here holding the bag. She went to Michigan, to Hillsdale College, to deliver a commencement
00:16:02.500 address. OK, it's her prerogative. I think we're all adjusted to this new program of Erica can do
00:16:07.600 whatever she wants. And simultaneously, she accepted a posthumous doctorate degree for Charlie,
00:16:13.640 honorary doctorate and also an honorary doctorate for herself. And I want to be clear that people
00:16:20.660 that are on the left and have been enduring, people on the right saying DEI, DEI, people should
00:16:28.260 not be hired on the basis of how they look. They should not receive achievements. It's a regular
00:16:33.000 beat. And I do believe that, by the way. I am a full, I'm anti-DEI as well. But they're on the
00:16:39.220 internet and they have something to say about it. The internet is saying this stands against
00:16:43.940 everything that you guys preached. Why is she getting an honorary doctorate? What does she
00:16:48.260 accomplish? And I'll let you, I'm just going to read one of these tweets. This was written by
00:16:52.560 someone named Brian Allen. I don't know who this is, but they wrote Hillsdale College, one of
00:16:57.760 America's loudest opponents of DEI, just gave a woman an honorary doctorate and commencement speech
00:17:03.560 opportunity because of who her husband is. That is the definition of DEI. Diversity, equity and
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00:17:42.720 slash Canada. So conservatives, I hate to call balls and strikes here, but like, yeah, that's
00:17:52.740 right. That is actually the very definition of DEI. When people have someone come and give a
00:17:59.620 commencement address. That's usually not the circumstances that you give someone an honorary
00:18:03.840 doctorate for. Fair. I don't mind it. I get it. Like I said, I'm adjusted to this new program
00:18:10.460 that she can do whatever she wants, and they're just going to keep handing her stuff, and she's
00:18:13.700 just going to become more and more accomplished. And people that are calling this out and saying
00:18:17.540 she's not qualified for this, welcome to the program, ladies and gentlemen. Virtually Erica's
00:18:22.740 entire educational background has sort of just been fictionalized. And when people began pointing
00:18:28.120 this out, we got yelled at. This is just par for the Erica course. We keep being told it doesn't
00:18:33.060 matter. Her husband died. Right. She told the when she was trying out for the American race
00:18:40.420 with her ex-boyfriend, she never said she never had a boyfriend before Charlie in the five years
00:18:45.460 before Charlie, but she did. And when they were trying out for the great American race in the
00:18:51.120 video that she submitted, she said that she graduated from ASU magna cum laude. Years later,
00:18:59.440 she would edit that credential. She just kind of upgraded it on her LinkedIn page when she wrote
00:19:05.900 that she graduated summa cum laude, right? With a double degree, I should mention, you can take a
00:19:11.740 look at this, her LinkedIn page in political science and international relations. This is
00:19:16.680 this is the old LinkedIn page. It since has been removed. Turns out she didn't graduate magna cum
00:19:22.240 loud, and she also didn't graduate summa cum laude. She didn't graduate with any honors,
00:19:26.560 and she did not graduate with a double degree. That was all just made up for funsies, and she's
00:19:31.420 put it on bios. So this is not like, oh, this was one mistake, and I had an intern that typed a
00:19:36.560 button wrong. It's been put on bios. In fact, ASU did not even offer the international relations
00:19:42.500 degree at all in 2012. Barron Coleman, some other people online dug up everything from the past to
00:19:52.380 see if the catalog even offered it. The answer is no. So she just made it up. And we're not allowed
00:19:58.100 to ask questions. Not the only thing she made up. Pull that up again. You will also see on her
00:20:03.140 LinkedIn that she has doctor of education, that she received that in Christian leadership from
00:20:08.980 Liberty University. That is factually untrue. That's made up. She took a couple of credits
00:20:14.540 toward that goal, but she never accomplished it. Just a couple of credits toward the goal
00:20:20.800 when her and Charlie were together, and then she decided that was enough and she could
00:20:24.560 assert that she had this doctor of education. She doesn't. Our fault for noticing, our fault for
00:20:32.120 fact-checking her background at all. How dare we? Her husband died, and she's allowed to
00:20:38.720 compulsively lie about everything all the time and if you are a person that thinks hey if you
00:20:46.020 have a profile of an individual who compulsively lies about everything that person should probably
00:20:51.620 not be put into a leadership role if you feel that way you're the monster and you're demonic
00:20:56.840 there were so many holes and so many lies in the erica kirk background and story that we had to
00:21:04.320 choose. We had to like think about editing. How are we going to tell the Erica Kirk story when we
00:21:08.820 did Bride of Charlie? We had to just leave a lot of them. OK, we're just going to let her go with
00:21:14.140 that lie. We never even covered that the whole educational background is made up virtually the
00:21:19.260 entire. I mean, she did receive her master's from Liberty University online, but she just keeps
00:21:24.100 adding credentials. So I say more power to her. I think we should call her Dr. Erica Kirk. I think
00:21:29.800 we should lean in to the absurdity of where we're at right now as a society, where everyone can see
00:21:36.740 what she is. And apparently she's a part of the elite class of people. Let's call it the Epstein
00:21:41.840 class of people who just don't have to answer. There's no consequences for anything, and they
00:21:46.200 can make us the bad guys for noticing. So I salute you, Dr. Kirk. We'll be back after a brief break.
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00:23:43.320 Okay, so I have been trying to stress to you
00:23:45.680 that we are kind of barreling toward a society of make-believe.
00:23:49.360 it's very scary actually if you just pause for a second and consider it it's very strange that
00:23:55.440 they're trying to see if they can sort of force us to believe things that are just not so and they
00:24:04.200 become angry and they become insisted and they spend more money and they're just getting influencers
00:24:08.820 that go out there and they're i just i mean i felt this way by the way when the transgender thing was
00:24:14.080 happening i was very vocal against this it's like there's a difference between a woman and a man and
00:24:18.320 they just kept pushing it and pushing it and pushing it. And it's like you can wear the clothes
00:24:23.640 that you want to wear and feel how you feel, but there is such a thing as reality. And now we've
00:24:29.860 moved away from that becoming a social issue. And it was always obviously political, but we're
00:24:34.500 starting to see this in politics. We're starting to see them, and that of course is the example
00:24:39.160 with Dr. Kirk and her entire background, which makes no sense, where the entire world notices
00:24:43.120 that this is what the Erica Kirk story feels like. It feels to me, if you're a conservative,
00:24:48.320 like it felt when we were going through the transgenderism argument, where we all know that
00:24:52.660 this is not right. So maybe some people are pretending to be nice. It's actually a perfect
00:24:56.620 analogy here. A lot of people who I know who initially were like, yeah, let's support
00:25:01.300 transgenderism. It's not because they believed it. They just were like, it's just nice. It's a nice
00:25:05.000 thing to do. Right. I would say a lot of lefties found themselves in that category. That person
00:25:10.120 feels that way. Let them feel that way. And it's the same thing with the Erica Kirk story, where
00:25:13.540 they're just ignoring the facts. They're ignoring all the lies. And they're just like, well, it's
00:25:17.080 just nice because her husband died that we shouldn't even consider whether or not she's
00:25:22.540 lying about things or whether or not she's helping to cover up certain things that would help us
00:25:25.860 solve the mystery of how her husband died. And she's not acting right. She's not acting like
00:25:31.800 a grieving widow. I'm going to give you another example of this. Like recently, this Nick Shirley
00:25:37.500 guy, this thing that is going on, OK, it's now getting weird enough that I do feel the need to
00:25:42.760 comment and weigh in. I didn't even know that this was a beef that I accidentally stumbled upon
00:25:49.340 that people were saying. The term that they use here is fed jacketed. Essentially, he's being
00:25:56.120 created by the media. There are a lot of people that are like that. I would say Barry Weiss is
00:26:00.620 a perfect example. We all know she's not qualified to be an executive at CBS. They just don't care.
00:26:06.260 They're just, there you go, Barry Weiss. And this Nick Shirley thing is one of the weirdest
00:26:10.000 non-beefs that I have ever had. So I'm going to back up here and say I did not follow at all the
00:26:16.400 quote-unquote rise of Nick Shirley. He's 24 years old. It was, if I recall, like very quickly after
00:26:23.580 the Charlie Kirk assassination. He was sort of introduced first on the Charlie Kirk show on the
00:26:27.640 day he died. Remember, we covered that. That's the reason I covered him on the show on September 10th
00:26:31.120 when I was trying to work through timelines and I made a mistake. And I completely owned that
00:26:36.020 mistake and had a conversation with him. Right after the Charlie Kirk assassination, suddenly
00:26:40.800 I was not emotionally available to look at other topics, to cover other topics. I was not interested
00:26:47.640 in other trends. And suddenly we have this kid, 23 years old, I think he was last year. And they
00:26:53.340 say Nick Shirley has uncovered massive welfare fraud in the Somalian community in Minnesota.
00:26:59.560 Okay. A friend of mine just got shot in the neck. Don't really care to follow the story.
00:27:02.620 daycare fraud. Great. Thumbs up. Did not peek beyond that at all. I want to be perfectly clear
00:27:09.940 here. I did not watch or read even one minute of what he uncovered. So color me completely
00:27:15.200 ignorant of the welfare fraud story in Somalia. Just being honest with you, I didn't have it in
00:27:19.640 me then, and I just truly did not care. Okay. So then fast forward to me mentioning Nick Shirley
00:27:25.560 on the show, and I was like, okay, who is this guy? And I was quite stunned that there was this
00:27:32.220 video out there of him saying that he like broke into infiltrated the most dangerous gang in brazil
00:27:39.480 in 48 hours like that's so objectively stupid and ignorant you have to be so ignorant to even
00:27:46.360 believe that that's just be a headline that your brain automatically rejects right a 23 year old
00:27:51.460 kid absent any connections infiltrated a gang in 48 hours is like they are they are trying you right
00:27:57.140 now. They're not even trying to give us, like, good slop anymore. Like, we're beneath the level
00:28:04.280 of fed slop with this, right? It's just stupid. It's nothing personal, Nick Shirley. It's just
00:28:09.020 dumb when you hear it that a person infiltrate a 23-year-old kid, and I did say a white boy for
00:28:15.820 a reason, which I will explain, infiltrated the most dangerous gang in Brazil by himself with
00:28:20.840 cameras, okay? Anyway, Nick Shirley, after I said this on my show the next day, it was, like,
00:28:25.700 trending and all of these people, the people I trust the least, by the way. I mean, like Tim
00:28:30.280 Poole, everyone's like writing these statements like Nick Shirley got punched in the face by me
00:28:34.600 because I'm not an idiot. I don't have to look deeper into that story. It's obviously objectively
00:28:38.980 on its face, untrue and made up. I don't know if it's for entertainment. I don't know if it's
00:28:43.100 for funsies. I don't know the purpose of making up something like that. I've just lived a little
00:28:47.060 bit of life and know that that's not how it works. And so PBD, who has just been sort of taking
00:28:53.060 swipes at me for like since Charlie Kirk died. You know, he notoriously hosted the person who said
00:28:57.440 I didn't speak to Charlie since, you know, 2019. We hadn't spoken. We were at war with each other.
00:29:04.120 Whatever. I don't care. You know, it's just add it to the pile of people who are constantly
00:29:09.100 just making little snide comments on me. But Nick PBD, who was one of the people who issued a kind
00:29:15.280 statement about Nick Shirley because gasp, Candace doesn't believe that he infiltrated
00:29:19.540 a gang in 48 hours, hosted him on his show. And they show the clip of what I said and
00:29:26.480 the PBD is pretending he had no idea. He completely already knew I said this.
00:29:31.340 Even the whole little scene you're going to watch between them is just so contrived. It
00:29:35.940 just bothers me on a level of why do we have to live in this soap opera? Why are we all
00:29:41.380 sim characters? Who is pulling the strings? Anyway, I want you to listen to this conversation
00:29:46.600 that they have when the market is supporting you who in the market is criticizing you that you're
00:29:53.960 surprised on the conservative side are there people who are like nick go you're doing great
00:29:59.680 and then there's people that are like yeah i don't know if i like what he's doing candace owens came
00:30:03.780 after me a while back that was very interesting why would candace owens come after you i don't
00:30:09.860 know she like didn't believe my brazilian favela video and oh it's not even so you're talking this
00:30:15.480 was a couple years ago no no this is like recent she's like white boy i'm like it was very like
00:30:21.720 snarky of her to do this interesting this is it yeah
00:30:26.940 but which video is that is that a recent video last summer i'm just gonna say i don't believe
00:30:35.400 that at all i'm sorry i just i i just it's so stupid i'm not even gonna tell you why i believe
00:30:39.720 it's like it's like if you don't know that that's stupid that he infiltrated the gang in 48 hours
00:30:45.460 hours like it's just that's so dumb i'm so tired of dumb that's not how that works okay you don't
00:30:50.800 just go up to gangs on the street as a nice looking white boy with the camera and say hey
00:30:55.360 i just wanted to sort of like see what you're doing here what's going on okay that's just stop
00:30:59.120 that's stupid of course that's dumb i'm sorry nick i know you're young i hope you know whoever
00:31:03.600 is your contact that has you infiltrating antifa and infiltrating el salvador at the age of 23
00:31:08.140 years old it just feels like sean penn young to me meaning like your your handler or you're
00:31:14.880 representing somebody like she's basically saying that's fake she's saying that's fake and i'm like
00:31:19.420 well maybe these podcasters would actually leave their podcast studios no offense pat
00:31:23.760 they'd leave their podcast studios and go and like do journalism like they'd actually see like
00:31:28.560 stuff just sometimes just happens it was that last part that really sent me because it's just
00:31:34.220 so lol and then this whole like oh why don't you try to do real journalism and like leave your
00:31:38.980 basement from podcasting uh alex clark kind of backed this up too because like she can't miss
00:31:44.080 an opportunity. Turning Point can't miss an opportunity because I think I took from them
00:31:47.900 what they believe is rightfully theirs. But she wrote this. Nick Shirley is a real journalist.
00:31:52.400 Candace Owens is not. Oh, OK. So we're in a podcast. We're in the basement. Hey, Nick. So
00:31:56.240 the reason why we know that that doesn't make sense, actually, is because you have to be the
00:32:01.740 most sheltered person in the world to even have to need it to be explained to you. That's not
00:32:07.540 plausible. OK, it's not about it's not a job. OK, people just live in these scenarios. People
00:32:13.180 literally, I have five-year-olds in my family who have seen more and lived through more than
00:32:19.660 you've probably ever lived through in your life. The circumstance itself did not happen. And I
00:32:24.000 cannot tell you how much it frustrates me that you're pretending that I'm coming from a position
00:32:28.200 of privilege when it's actually the exact opposite. You couldn't do this in Chicago.
00:32:32.680 You couldn't do this in Detroit. Forget in a favela in Brazil. Places like that, which I have
00:32:37.520 Brazilians in my family, you don't even go to parts in Brazil without having someone who is from
00:32:42.380 that place and from that neighborhood. So no, it's not about podcasting in my basement. I actually
00:32:47.500 lived a lot of life, Nick Shirley, before I got to podcasting in my basement, before I was married,
00:32:52.340 before I had children. In fact, I moved down to South America for two months to learn Spanish
00:32:57.440 with very strict instructions. The school that I enrolled in, don't wear any jewelry, don't wear
00:33:02.760 any makeup, don't look American. You don't just go down there. As I said, and why I'm pointing out
00:33:08.040 the fact that you are a white boy is because you don't look like them. The whole idea when you're
00:33:12.220 down there is to blend in, not to come with the camera, a Mormon kid from Utah with the camera.
00:33:17.920 Hey, what's the most dangerous game in this favela? Can I infiltrate in 48 hours? It just
00:33:23.440 didn't happen. It didn't even kind of happen. And like I said, that could only work. You'd
00:33:30.200 have to sell this to billionaires, right? You could only make people who have never touched
00:33:36.140 their own door handles. Like you'd have to grow up like Paris Hilton and go somewhere where Nick
00:33:41.360 Shirley is and he tells you about how he infiltrated a favela and she would think that that's plausible
00:33:45.040 because she's never even been to like a dangerous gas station. That's how fake that is. Like there
00:33:49.420 are gas stations on the New Jersey turnpike that people you couldn't infiltrate. You couldn't buy
00:33:56.160 a bag of chips and feel safe. OK, and you're trying to tell us that you're just a 23 year
00:34:00.660 old kid who infiltrated a favela in 48 hours. I don't need to pierce beyond the layer. I've just
00:34:05.940 lived these things. I've lived these circumstances and so have the majority of people. And so I don't
00:34:10.880 understand the purpose of Nick Shirley. I didn't know if there was this huge scandal and then
00:34:14.520 subsequently found out that people, you know, think he's fed jacketed. I wasn't trying to hit
00:34:18.740 upon that. I just watched the video and had a reaction to how stupid it was that they're trying
00:34:23.180 to sell it. They're not even giving us good psyops anymore. They have such low respect for us.
00:34:28.640 You couldn't go to trailer parks and do that. There are certain trailer parks, a lot of them,
00:34:33.420 that you couldn't go through and do that.
00:34:35.300 Like, you would get harmed.
00:34:36.340 And by the way, it's irresponsible to suggest to 23-year-old kids
00:34:39.840 that they can do this.
00:34:40.720 I actually find it to be irresponsible.
00:34:42.980 Like, yeah, you want to be like Nick Shirley
00:34:44.040 and just go down with the camera, no connections,
00:34:47.300 and, you know, you'll suddenly arrive and be welcomed into a gang.
00:34:51.880 They'll be holding guns and you're perfectly safe.
00:34:53.520 He's just that amazing.
00:34:54.960 His words are just that gentle and just that kind.
00:34:57.100 I pointed out that you would have obviously stood out, Nick,
00:35:01.320 as a white boy walking through a favela with a camera.
00:35:04.460 They would look,
00:35:05.280 there's just a certain natural thing that happens.
00:35:07.860 You stand out in the jungle.
00:35:10.440 Oh, this does not look like someone that should be here.
00:35:12.980 You could say the same thing.
00:35:14.100 If you put any person,
00:35:16.400 if you put a gangster rapper
00:35:19.080 and you put them up in the suburbs
00:35:21.360 where they haven't seen a person with melanin
00:35:23.780 in over a century,
00:35:25.820 they go, that person is standing out there
00:35:27.780 with their jeans down low, baby.
00:35:31.320 you know, below their butts or something like that. You just would look odd. And it is the
00:35:36.360 exact opposite of anybody who has lived and been around these areas. You know that you don't do
00:35:40.860 that. It's just it's a basic survival thing. You don't do that. I have family reunions. Nick
00:35:46.520 Shirley couldn't infiltrate and survive. That's just the reality. Like so this whole like tough
00:35:50.600 boy because they don't leave their basement. You sound sheltered. You sound sheltered that you think
00:35:56.780 that because I podcast today
00:35:58.620 that I didn't live a lot more yesterdays,
00:36:01.500 way more aggressive yesterdays
00:36:03.060 than you've ever lived in your entire life.
00:36:04.860 That's why I laughed, Nick,
00:36:06.140 because it's so implausible that you did that.
00:36:09.000 And the other thing that I want to add here
00:36:10.880 is just more broadly speaking,
00:36:13.160 I don't know why they're doing this now.
00:36:15.240 And I do think we're getting to this
00:36:16.620 sort of stage of idiocracy,
00:36:18.640 whether we're talking about the Erica Kirk thing,
00:36:20.420 everyone can see it,
00:36:21.260 that is so painfully and obviously untrue,
00:36:23.600 whether we're talking about the Nick Shirley thing,
00:36:25.760 It's like they've calculated to a point where they should just be able to with X amount of dollars, with this amount of influencers and with this much power behind a political party, whether it's we're going to get Trump to support this person or, you know, we're going to get Kamala Harris to support this person.
00:36:42.020 It's like an equation that they're just like this equals success.
00:36:46.000 And we're rejecting that.
00:36:48.580 We have to hold on to common sense.
00:36:50.280 We all just have to know that Nick Shirley did not infiltrate a gang in 48 hours. We all just have to know that it is not normal for a woman whose husband was assassinated in broad daylight to six days later be on a Zoom call laughing about emojis.
00:37:06.900 We should all say, nope, doesn't pass the SNF test, and I'm just not going to have you explain to me. I'm not going to make you pretend that this is some sort of controversy because I have common sense. They're trying to make it illegal to think. It's illegal to just know things spiritually, instinctively, intuitively, doesn't pass the SNF test, and I just feel like we have to hold firm on that.
00:37:31.760 So I don't mean to use Nick Shirley as an example. I don't care to further wade into the controversy of people who are talking about his background and saying that he's been created. I tend to just look at how people react when I point out the obvious to know that he's got some backing behind him, right? He's up here crying about a little remark about Fabella, like, okay, it didn't happen. So take that or leave that. He is being pushed upon us for some reason. I don't know what that reason is.
00:37:58.920 By the way, he's now going to be going to Cuba, guys.
00:38:02.940 No connections.
00:38:03.920 He's just going to Cuba.
00:38:06.140 Claims he went to Cuba.
00:38:08.320 He was almost taken hostage.
00:38:09.840 Man, this is the bravest kid in the entire world.
00:38:12.280 And of course, this headline from yesterday,
00:38:15.840 will the U.S. invade Cuba?
00:38:17.860 It tells us that spy flights there are surging.
00:38:20.860 There are new sanctions.
00:38:22.000 And we all know the CIA is involved in Cuba at this moment.
00:38:25.120 so I don't find the timing of Nick Shirley. I find everything about him to be suspicious. I would
00:38:30.600 say to everyone, look at these videos with some degree of caution because that none of this is
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00:40:49.240 I should also be clear that when we're using the term, we say someone's fed jacketed,
00:40:53.220 doesn't mean that this person is a fed themselves.
00:40:56.360 It just means that they clearly have connections with the government and they are being sort
00:41:01.280 of just kind of put upon us, they're hoisted upon us.
00:41:03.540 We don't really know why.
00:41:05.080 And I would just say that that's just common sense.
00:41:08.660 It doesn't pass the SNP test for me.
00:41:10.140 And I'm just going to hold that opinion.
00:41:11.160 I'm not going to investigate.
00:41:12.120 I'm not passionate about Nick Shirley.
00:41:13.240 it was such a non-item on my show that the fact that he's like trying to extend it into some
00:41:18.740 beef is ridiculous. The fact that it was even trending after I said it, like I said, the people
00:41:23.480 we trust the least all being like, he's the most amazing thing. I can't believe he had to survive
00:41:28.560 someone saying that he didn't go to a favela. That in and of itself feels inauthentic. That's
00:41:33.540 not a normal way to react to someone saying, yeah, don't buy that one. And like I said, I wasn't aware
00:41:39.440 of the history of people who had gone after him
00:41:41.860 and showed whatever the connections were.
00:41:43.740 And I don't plan on investigating it.
00:41:45.040 I just don't care enough onto bigger things,
00:41:47.420 more important things, like I said,
00:41:49.380 which for me is the Charlie Kirk assassination.
00:41:52.000 A top comment from last episode,
00:41:53.500 Fran Ban writes,
00:41:54.320 I think Erica hit the sixth stage of grief,
00:41:57.020 which is bridal shots.
00:41:58.400 Yes, you guys, I think we're with me.
00:42:00.900 Just very confused about why she was in the drapes.
00:42:04.380 I don't know what was going on.
00:42:05.700 I know that I couldn't do that when I was a kid.
00:42:07.460 My mom would say, get out them drapes right now.
00:42:09.440 she just did that or whatever. And it was very bridal. And the next thing we knew,
00:42:16.240 like I said, we were being shouted at. Alex B writes, I desperately need an Erica Kirk
00:42:19.880 South Park episode. Yes. Oh my. That would be amazing. Obviously, we would get in so much
00:42:28.880 trouble. So much trouble. But I think it's worth it if we are in trouble. We're already in trouble
00:42:34.700 all the time with the mainstream media.
00:42:37.480 So that might happen.
00:42:38.780 Like I said, Charlie would have laughed at that stuff,
00:42:40.240 but we see that Erica has taken the Drewski skit
00:42:42.500 deadly serious for some reason.
00:42:44.840 And for the record,
00:42:46.260 the people that were trying to turn that
00:42:47.560 into something racial like Andrew Colvett
00:42:49.640 now do like black conservatives.
00:42:53.660 He does every race.
00:42:55.300 If you know Drewski's skits,
00:42:57.260 he makes fun of Vietnamese people.
00:42:59.140 He dressed up like he was a Vietnamese person,
00:43:00.800 did this whole nail salon thing.
00:43:02.660 So it was not because of her race that he did that.
00:43:05.880 And just last week, he dropped a massive video
00:43:08.340 where he was targeting Black British actors,
00:43:11.360 and it was hilarious, and we just laughed at it.
00:43:13.420 So I hate to see that the right has become
00:43:15.880 the things that we hated about the left,
00:43:17.960 like not able to just take a joke on its face.
00:43:20.520 Nobody got hurt in him mocking Erica Kirk.
00:43:23.300 Clearly, she got her feelings hurt,
00:43:25.100 but it's because she takes herself
00:43:26.660 apparently way too seriously,
00:43:28.720 or maybe she was just promised
00:43:29.780 that she would be protected
00:43:30.720 and everyone was just going to love her.
00:43:32.340 And I think she's quite surprised
00:43:33.540 that the opposite thing seems to be what they accomplished.
00:43:37.580 And the reason for that is because she just comes across
00:43:39.580 as inauthentic and dishonest.
00:43:41.300 And they have no response for all of the various lies,
00:43:45.520 inconsistencies, inaccuracies that we have pointed out.
00:43:48.880 They just keep saying, demonic, send out the pastor,
00:43:50.940 send out the pastor to tell him it's demonic, it's demonic.
00:43:53.240 No, lies are actually, in fact, satanic.
00:43:57.320 Satan is the author of lies.
00:43:59.800 So if you're looking to people
00:44:02.300 who have been telling the truth
00:44:03.540 or people who are trying to get at the truth,
00:44:05.260 and I will say, do we make mistakes sometimes?
00:44:07.660 Absolutely.
00:44:08.640 But at least we have it in our heart
00:44:09.880 that when we do those mistakes,
00:44:10.960 we course correct, we apologize, and we move on.
00:44:13.740 You guys are on a level of arrogance
00:44:15.620 that when you get literally just caught lying,
00:44:20.040 you yell at us.
00:44:21.640 She doesn't show up to an event
00:44:22.940 and you have J.D. Vance lecture us.
00:44:24.880 Get out of my face, J.D. Vance.
00:44:26.440 I'm sorry.
00:44:27.180 I actually really disliked him after that.
00:44:29.060 I'm like, he's sitting up here on the stage yelling at us
00:44:30.980 because she doesn't want to go to the event
00:44:32.480 because no one wants to hear her speak.
00:44:34.340 Like, that's so backwards.
00:44:35.480 And it's so abusive and narcissistic to do that to people.
00:44:39.220 You want to make commitments.
00:44:40.480 You wanted to be Charlie Kirk so bad
00:44:42.020 that you allegedly made a whole AI video
00:44:44.500 saying your husband wanted you.
00:44:46.240 And we all deep down spiritually know that that is untrue, okay?
00:44:50.080 Charlie didn't change his mind two weeks before he died.
00:44:52.600 We know what he thought.
00:44:53.900 We have hours and hours and hours and hours of footage
00:44:56.440 of Charlie Kirk saying women should stay home.
00:44:59.060 You wanted to put on your big girl glitter pants and take his role and be CEO and chairman.
00:45:04.640 Well, guess what? Life's tough. Get a helmet. Okay. No one feels bad for you because you have
00:45:09.260 to deal with criticism that Charlie had to deal with for the last 10 years. And he took it
00:45:12.620 gracefully. He fought. He answered the questions. He allowed people to go through his life.
00:45:17.660 I've had to do the same thing. Nobody's crying for me when my family's getting attacked. And
00:45:23.100 now all of a sudden you just think that what this was supposed to be, I dub the Erica Kirk,
00:45:27.980 the CEO of Upstarting Point USA. Nobody ask any questions. What is that? Wrong country,
00:45:34.940 sweetheart. No, we don't do the king and queen, I dub thee stuff here. So if you can't take the
00:45:41.180 heat, get the hell out of the kitchen, Erica. That's just the reality. Just get out of the
00:45:45.420 kitchen, step down, go away, and pretend to be a grieving widow. That works for everybody.
00:45:51.200 Anyway, a little too fired up here. I'm going to move on to your comments from today's episode.
00:45:56.880 We have Bill K. writes,
00:45:58.740 Christ is king, Mary is queen,
00:45:59.820 and Candace is a princess.
00:46:01.160 Happy late Mother's Day.
00:46:02.700 Thank you so much.
00:46:03.540 No, the only princess in this house is my daughter.
00:46:05.460 She's definitely a princess.
00:46:07.980 Yeah, she's just working me these days, man.
00:46:09.680 You just, it's so fast how clever they are.
00:46:11.460 They just know what to say to get what they want.
00:46:14.580 I am being outworked by toddlers over here.
00:46:16.860 Moderator Marzi writes,
00:46:17.820 Hey, Candace, I know you were covering Nick Shirley today,
00:46:19.620 but I wanted to let you know
00:46:20.300 that the quartering has messed with you on X
00:46:22.420 and is now facing a potential lawsuit
00:46:24.760 involving false flagging and deplatforming other YouTube channels, as well as for doxing and
00:46:29.600 harassment. That's very interesting. I did not know that. I will look into that. I had no idea
00:46:35.060 who is suing him. I know nothing about that. I just read these comments live, so I wasn't
00:46:39.180 expecting that one, and I can't really add anything to that, but thank you for giving me
00:46:42.520 that tip. Mrs. MPK writes, what's your response to reporting that during your private interview,
00:46:48.240 Erica Kirk gave you Brian Harpole's alibi for the alleged Fort Huachuca sighting? Did you ask Erica
00:46:53.600 for her alibi during your meeting.
00:46:56.020 Ops doing the most, this merits a clarification.
00:46:58.380 Yeah, no, absolutely.
00:46:59.540 She gave me the, I thought it was very strange.
00:47:01.880 So my thought process, just to remind you guys,
00:47:03.900 and you'll see this all
00:47:04.580 because this is going to come out in the filings.
00:47:05.900 And I actually am thinking about
00:47:06.900 doing the Brian Friedman thing,
00:47:08.660 which was obviously of a lawyer,
00:47:11.060 Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni,
00:47:12.120 where he just put it all online
00:47:13.340 because I have nothing to hide.
00:47:14.740 So the timeline on that is
00:47:16.420 when I had received the email from Mitch or email,
00:47:19.520 it was Mitch's friend that emailed me
00:47:20.800 and I called him and he said his story.
00:47:23.500 he was clear that he saw Brian Harpole and he saw Erica, but he said he saw Erica Kirk on the 8th
00:47:28.500 and she wasn't leaving a meeting. Brian Harpole, he saw on the 9th and he was leaving the meeting
00:47:34.520 on Fort Huachuca base. And that was when the cops were called, all of that. And I, you have to
00:47:40.800 remember like at this particular time, I didn't suspect Erica and I felt like she was under a lot
00:47:46.440 of like pressure and I didn't want to unnecessarily put a spotlight on her because he saw her at a
00:47:53.480 hotel. It wasn't related to the meeting. He didn't see her with Brian. And I knew that her mom and
00:47:59.300 her stepdad have contracts with the government. So there's a thousand other reasons that she
00:48:04.020 could have been at the Fort Huachuca Air Base that were not, you know, weird. So I made the
00:48:09.780 decision when I first presented the story, which was absent before my interview with Mitch. So I
00:48:14.200 basically first told Mitch's story, his entire background. And then I said, and he says that he
00:48:19.160 saw Brian Harple. If you go back and you watch that, I said he saw Brian Harple on the 9th.
00:48:23.480 right removed erica from it entirely instantly the next day erica did went on her tour the stop
00:48:30.580 tour and erica suddenly was very panicked about this so it's almost to me like she knew that if
00:48:37.240 we got mitch onto the show he was gonna tell the other part which was that he saw erica like there
00:48:41.500 was something like she did it was the uh not the five the harrison what is her name on fox news
00:48:48.940 I'm totally blanking on her name, if you guys remember it, tell me. Harrison Faulkner is her
00:48:56.040 name, I think. Yeah, she went on Harris Faulkner, sorry, Harris Faulkner. She went on that show and
00:49:02.540 then she was all fired up for the first time and like, conspiracy theories need to stop.
00:49:06.800 That was the very next day. So I was like, that's interesting because we didn't mention the Erica
00:49:09.600 part yet. Does she know something that like it felt weird? And the day after that, she did Barry
00:49:14.460 Weiss. And they cut the clip of her saying, what do you have to say to the podcaster Candace Owens?
00:49:19.300 I then would later find out that they had planned that, the question answer segment. And she's like,
00:49:23.480 stop, just stop. Then I got Justin Streif, that backfires. Justin Streif emails us and we're off
00:49:28.960 for the weekend because I said, I'm going to interview Mitch next. I had said that. I get
00:49:32.640 Ian Carroll calling me and he's got Paramount, I mean, Valhalla, the YouTuber Green Beret,
00:49:38.660 basically already threatening me, like, don't interview Mitch. That was what was coming up.
00:49:43.840 I wanted to interview Mitch, as I said, or else he's going to sue. So I'm getting threatened with
00:49:48.260 a lawsuit before I even interview Mitch. And I'm like, dude, what's up? So I messaged Brian Harpole
00:49:53.300 and I'm like, hey, I'm going to have this guy Mitch on, but I could also, if you want to debunk
00:49:58.780 it, I'm happy to do it. I don't know this guy, but this reaction doesn't feel organic to me.
00:50:03.280 Everybody seems to be panicking and I haven't yet had Mitch on. He doesn't answer. So I'm like,
00:50:07.980 OK. Then Erica comes and we sit down. They scheduled it for Monday. And you'll remember.
00:50:14.020 So they were still thinking I was going to have Mitch on my show. Then they scheduled it during
00:50:18.120 the block where I would normally have my show. They said, let's have a ceasefire. No one's going
00:50:21.820 to talk. And then they hosted Paramount Tactical, basically trying to debunk me on the show while I
00:50:28.080 was in a hotel for four hours. And I thought it was very odd that she said to me that they were
00:50:34.880 very upset with Brian Harpole that they had a communication breakdown with him. They'd never
00:50:39.500 authorized him to go on the Sean Ryan show. But then she handed me an alibi for him. I'm like,
00:50:45.180 why are you concerned about his alibi? You're not talking to this guy and you're going to fire
00:50:49.280 Brian Harpole. Why are you concerned about his alibi so much that you're handing it to me?
00:50:54.460 Right. And then we look at it. I looked at it and I said, oh, this actually does not cover
00:50:57.800 the time period that Mitch said he saw him. So at that moment, I'm not saying to her anything
00:51:03.120 that he saw you too,
00:51:05.240 but I'm paying attention to her behavior, right?
00:51:08.600 At that point, she had already told me a couple of lies.
00:51:10.680 So I was on the like, okay, let's go easy,
00:51:13.560 clocked her on a couple of lies,
00:51:15.280 but I didn't want her to stop talking.
00:51:16.940 And she sort of just sat up
00:51:18.200 and handed me Brian Harpole's flights,
00:51:19.800 which were for 1.49 p.m. on the 9th, going to Utah.
00:51:24.580 And I said, this doesn't cover the time period.
00:51:26.180 So this is not, this doesn't actually debunk anything.
00:51:28.800 And she said, oh, I thought that's weird
00:51:31.660 because I'm you're not talking to Brian Harpole so what's up with this you know and after all was
00:51:39.320 said and done and then Justin asked me are you going to still didn't mention it to her and then
00:51:44.280 Justin asked me uh when is your show off air because we were coming up against Christmas and
00:51:48.520 I was like well in a couple of days actually and it was almost like they just kind of wanted to
00:51:52.520 get me not to interview him and then I interviewed him I did it on the 18th I was like I'm gonna do
00:51:58.520 this because I messaged Brian Harpole. Erica didn't give me an alibi for him. And I allowed
00:52:04.520 Mitch to tell a story. And he said that he saw Erica on the 8th. And what happened thereafter
00:52:10.240 was we were threatened, literally threatened. I mean, when you see these messages that Valhalla
00:52:16.960 was sending about how I would be ruined, he explicitly says we're going to ruin her by being
00:52:22.380 like if she does not like basically revoke her commentary about Fort Huachuca, we're going to
00:52:28.180 basically bury her in everything mitch has done in his past i'm talking to his ex-wife i'm like
00:52:32.700 what is why are valhalla and paramount tactical then they called mitch and they tried to play
00:52:38.480 good cop they were like yeah brother like we'd love to have you on the show fellow green green
00:52:44.580 beret but they were saying that i made up that he they were telling me the opposite or trying to
00:52:48.620 tell me the opposite that this was a case of stolen valor i went this is really weird who's
00:52:53.640 directing these two people who's directing paramount tactical and valhalla and then lo
00:52:59.300 and behold the answer came when accidentally paramount tactical read erica's alibi um live
00:53:08.780 on his show when it said please don't share and then what was stranger is that the kids in the
00:53:13.260 photo he's like these are her kids she was walking with her kids i didn't even share the fact that i
00:53:18.360 knew that that was not her kids well guess what guess who just admitted that guys paramount tactical
00:53:25.520 he says okay fine they have now just admitted over the weekend that the boy in the fort huachuca
00:53:31.220 alibi photo is not erica's which the internet immediately clocked okay if you have kids you
00:53:36.680 know you're not looking at a 16 month old i think that's how old um their son would have been this
00:53:41.980 giant child and i had someone very close to the family say that's not either of the children
00:53:47.920 actually so at least we now have paramount admitting that's the alibi that was given in
00:53:53.480 which andrew explicitly states she was with her kids as he sends the photo don't share
00:53:59.500 those are not her kids maybe it's gg i don't know the person that knows them says it's not
00:54:07.540 but we now have confirmation that it's not the son so so much weird stuff happened and then
00:54:14.300 to realize that Andrew was coordinating that,
00:54:16.640 was trying, he was the one coordinating
00:54:18.080 these like YouTubers, Valhalla and Paramount Tactical.
00:54:22.180 What's weird about that is they were in communication with me.
00:54:24.300 Erica and I had just sat down.
00:54:25.760 So they could have just texted me and said,
00:54:28.320 hey, just so you know, I saw that you mentioned whatever.
00:54:30.920 Here's Erica's alibi.
00:54:32.220 Here's where she was.
00:54:34.200 She was not at Fort Worth because she was here.
00:54:36.880 They didn't do that.
00:54:38.560 They went behind the scenes.
00:54:40.000 And I will clock another lie.
00:54:42.000 It was after Erica told me
00:54:43.020 that they were getting rid of Andrew Colvett.
00:54:44.300 So Andrew Colvett has been doing her dirty work. She's obviously got caught red-handed working with Andrew Colvett to get this out through this obscure YouTube channel, this alibi, after she told me that they had hired Crisis PR and they were moving Andrew out of PR. I can't remember if she said they were going to fire him, but I certainly know that she said they were moving him completely off of PR, full stop, and they had stopped using him because he had been an unmitigated disaster. That was when she was lying about Andrew went rogue, Andrew went rogue.
00:55:12.380 So when you have this many lies that are being told about something that I was pretty much like less than 50-50 on, genuinely, I obviously fact-checked enough to know that Mitch was there. He had the videos. I had his hotel reservation. I had confirmed with a source that his ID tags were real, the military ID tags. He had sent me so much overwhelming proof that he was there.
00:55:34.740 um when you have that sort of a reaction it doesn't make you think the person was not there
00:55:41.720 so they took me from being 40 60 maybe even 30 70 like i believe mitch was there but like he could
00:55:49.100 just have a weird memory they could have literally said oh it must have been a lookalike it wasn't
00:55:53.520 erica or brian they did way too much and the amount of times that brian harpole lies in this
00:56:01.340 lawsuit on its face, to me, does not make me think he was not at Fort Huachuca. Him saying
00:56:07.100 Candace had his alibi, they know that is objectively not true. They know that his
00:56:11.300 flights on the 9th were for 1.49 p.m. from Dallas to Salt Lake City. So why would you put that in a
00:56:19.220 filing? Why are you saying he went on Sean Ryan because of the grief that I put him through,
00:56:24.240 knowing fully well that I never mentioned him on my show until post-Sean Ryan? These are lies.
00:56:30.720 He's lying in a court filing.
00:56:33.560 So this does not make me feel,
00:56:35.940 I am not here today going,
00:56:37.480 well, now that he's filed this lawsuit,
00:56:38.520 I believe him.
00:56:39.200 For the first time,
00:56:39.920 I messaged him four times.
00:56:42.120 I now believe Brian Harpole
00:56:43.720 was not at Fort Huachuca.
00:56:44.660 It's actually the opposite.
00:56:46.160 The filing to me feels like Blake Lively.
00:56:49.700 Feels like Blake Lively's filing.
00:56:51.440 It's meant for PR.
00:56:53.220 It is not based in truth.
00:56:54.880 They still have not provided any receipts
00:56:57.220 as to his whereabouts
00:56:58.040 on the morning of the night.
00:56:59.080 then I look forward to getting them. Anyway, that was a, you got a lot more than you bargained for
00:57:05.340 with that. But I guess I had to get off my chest. AJ Gons writes, Hillsdale College,
00:57:13.720 objective truth or willful blindness? How disappointing. I can tell you that I knew
00:57:18.960 that she was going to speak there. I had so many students messaging me that were upset about it.
00:57:22.480 It's not who they had imagined their commencement address would be given by. Arkansas, Kansas writes,
00:57:27.180 I have this sick feeling in my gut that they are going to say that Tyler Robinson contracted the
00:57:31.220 Hantavirus before the trial begins. I think that nothing can happen to Tyler Robinson. If like,
00:57:39.320 if that happens, it's going to be terrible for Erica. It's going to be terrible for Turning Point
00:57:45.100 USA. They better keep him the healthiest, I would say. That'd be my suggestion. But these people
00:57:50.920 never do the thing that's right. So we'll see what happens. But I don't think that that's likely.
00:57:57.040 Allie writes,
00:57:57.980 wouldn't the best way to honor your husband's legacy
00:58:00.200 be to oppose the Iran war and support Thomas Massey
00:58:03.080 or to cozy up to his bullies
00:58:04.900 and ignore that he was changing at the end?
00:58:07.320 You're doing that thing, Allie,
00:58:09.440 the common sense thing.
00:58:11.860 People don't like that anymore.
00:58:13.320 We're living in make-believe.
00:58:15.240 That's common sense.
00:58:16.400 Yeah, you should hate the people
00:58:18.780 that were bullying your husband extra.
00:58:20.860 You shouldn't be teaming up with them.
00:58:22.500 But that's not how Erica lives.
00:58:24.140 not the amazing remarkable erica kirk not the magnificent dr kirk she's like something else
00:58:31.980 jane writes love from the uk christ is king and genocide is always wrong go max still haven't
00:58:37.680 changed my stance on that it's aging like fine wine christ is king genocide is always wrong
00:58:42.460 it feels okay good black girl writes new merch please life's tough get a helmet i think we
00:58:49.360 actually have that merch on the website um i'm pretty sure let's see let's um check that out on
00:58:57.340 the website we have some new merch no we had it at some point but maybe we should get that back up
00:59:01.200 there anyway speaking of which here's some new merch that we do have on the website um we have
00:59:08.480 some great stuff we've got that candace unchanged stuff uh unchained stuff that's there uh which is
00:59:14.540 we've got a lot of great merch right now actually the he david is absolutely crushing it in merch
00:59:18.980 So if you'd like to support us and support independent work, you can just buy some merch.
00:59:24.480 Easy way.
00:59:25.000 Also remind you guys that we are starting the new book on the book club, my book.
00:59:29.240 I'm super excited.
00:59:30.140 Go to makehimassandwich.com if you'd like to buy.
00:59:32.220 You can also buy it on Amazon, wherever you buy books.
00:59:34.720 But this is my baby.
00:59:36.620 So if you have considered yourself to be a feminist in the past for all the reasons that I considered myself to be a feminist when I was in college,
00:59:42.740 I challenge you to read this book where my lefties at, my lefties who watch the show,
00:59:46.100 I challenge you to read this book with us in the book club uh sign up and join us for um friday
00:59:53.480 I love the book club and I keep forgetting that we have to do could you just remind me to message
00:59:57.780 David that we need to do book club merch like I need just anything you know uh okay anyway you
01:00:03.820 guys that is all that I have to say today I completely over answered that question but I
01:00:08.200 just want to take you guys through it I do think we are going to do a website so you guys can read
01:00:11.160 the documents yourselves and read all the messages and the timeline that I created of how everything
01:00:15.540 went down. I am still very suspicious about Fort Huachuca. And I think you should be too.
01:00:21.160 Let me know how you feel. We will see you guys tomorrow.