Update! Erika Did Not Go Home. Source Confirms AI Voice Tactics. ｜ Candace Ep 336
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Candace and Jon talk about Erica Kirk's return to Michigan to deliver a commencement speech, the Charlie Garderot and Andrew Colvett divorce rumors, and the White House Correspondents Dinner. Betonline.ca founder Tyler Boyer responds to a divorce rumor.
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All right, you guys. Happy Monday. Update for you. Erica Kirk did not, in fact, go home.
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I just have to say, no one bounces back faster from shootings than Erica Kirk. She really is
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remarkable in that way. This time, after saying she wanted to go home, us enduring a lecture
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about how she needed to go home to her family, she bounced over to Michigan to address the
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graduating class of Hillsdale College in a commencement speech. It's just, it's all over
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replace the messaging, right? She's too scared to get on a plane by herself. Secret service can't
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protect her. Oh, now she doesn't have secret service and she's back on stage out of school.
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Nonetheless, I don't know what to think, guys. What you should know is she was awarded an honorary
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doctorate. The internet has a lot to say about that. Also, we got to discuss this Charlie GPT
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thing that we have been hinting at because it's looking like there may be more legs to the story
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You know, that infamous recording of Charlie saying,
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first and foremost happy belated mother's day to all of the mothers out there i hope you enjoyed
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special treatment i know andrew colvette had a bit of a day bizarre trend over on x so it looks
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like Project Constitution, reported that Andrew Colvett was getting a divorce, and it was just
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not true. The basis of the report was not true. But boy, oh boy, did all of Turning Point USA
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rise up to defend Andrew Colvett's honor. I mean, Andrew himself hit back hard immediately.
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He basically turned into Will Smith at the Oscars. He wrote this,
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And then he says, keep my wife's name out of your mouth
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and off your feed and you'll have more problems
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or you'll have more problems than you bargained for.
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because it was definitely giving that energy of Will Smith.
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Keep my wife's name out your f***ing mouth.
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And then it wasn't left there. Tyler Boyer then jumped in into the parade to further defend Andrew's honor over a divorce rumor. I'm like, this is just like, I wake up and there are rumors about me getting a divorce. But Tyler Boyer said, we have had numerous things like this said about us. It is reckless disregard for truth from people who call themselves investigators.
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have you considered that you could look this up
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How do you even know he was offered a plus one?
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Andrew lives in Phoenix and has three children.
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five hours across the country to attend one dinner?
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which I literally think this happens like once a week
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Like I said, apparently it was Project Constitution
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as a psychopathic, knife-wielding subway killer.
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Because it has been, according to our count, and I now have, I'm keeping the count here on our desk, 39 long days since we reported that donors who were present in Aspen assert that the audio which was shared by Turning Point USA of Charlie saying, I appoint my wife to run Turning Point USA if something happens to me, she'll do a great job, was faked.
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And Turning Point, for some reason, is refusing to drop the video of that moment saying this, of Charlie saying this.
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They're also refusing to even respond authoritatively.
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They could simply respond and assert that it absolutely was not faked and that the donors are lying.
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In fact, Blake has specifically expressed concern, you will recall, that if they do drop it, people will say it's AI.
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Wow, that's an oddly specific concern that you have about dropping this video.
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And I got to tell you, the more I listen to it, the more AI it sounds to me.
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A lot of organizations and groups, as soon as a founder leaves, it just kind of collapses.
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A lot of my job is not always in the day-to-day details.
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It's very much vision casting, very much driving success.
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But we have a great board, and God forbid if something happens, they'll figure it out.
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I appoint my wife to run 20.USA if something happens to me.
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I appoint my wife to run 20.USA if something happens to me.
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I appoint my wife to run 20.USA if something happens to me.
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I appoint my wife if anything should happen to me.
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It's like exactly the sentence that he needed to say he said, not just like, oh, Erica can do it.
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Yeah, I mean, she'd be great at that, whatever.
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Hopefully we don't have to think about that question until down the line.
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But I appoint my wife to run Turning Point USA in the event that anything happens to me.
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It's a possibility that for some reason the donors are conspiring to lie about this moment.
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a simple yes or no would do as a starting place, right?
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I think that would do just as a starting place.
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And the video, which I would like to point out,
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Erica herself told Megyn Kelly an emotional story
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and sentiment that he had ever expressed in the past about women working complete 180 from his
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prior positions, please just drop the video. It's all we ask. And we're asking politely, by the way.
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And now we've learned even more interesting information because it turns out we can now
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definitively state that Turning Point does use AI voices for their presentations. You will recall
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In Aspen, Charlie was presenting two donors, and it turns out that Marcus Wada, we introduced you to this guy.
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This is a Turning Point employee that's a rehabilitated former arms dealer, okay?
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A former arms dealer who now works for Turning Point.
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They find God, and they find Turning Point, like, at almost the same time.
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and Marcus Wada, one of the things that he offers
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to voice over their turning point presentations.
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So it is an entirely reasonable question to ask,
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was the same thing done for Charlie posthumously?
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why we are going to continue to ask this question
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I'm starting to already see the creep of people
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who are trying to downplay the significance of that moment, right?
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People pivoting to, well, even if it is AI, why does it matter?
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This is just one example of it, but John Mappin,
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who is the person who introduced Charlie to actually his biggest donor.
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Charlie's biggest donor was introduced to him by John Mappin,
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a donor so big that that donor was first in line on a list of donors
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who received personal phone calls from the hospital
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he was met with a response from Kimberly Klasick.
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The donors that contacted you are more than capable of contacting Blake, she continued.
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It matters because if it was in fact an AI audio and Erica was referring to an AI video
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clip, which they in the end decided not to use, this would tell us exactly who and what
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It would put to rest any lingering questions that some people may have in the background if we are able to determine that she colluded to create a fake AI voice of her husband announcing her to take over his company.
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If she was even emotionally capable of this, a mere weeks after he was horrifically and publicly murdered, if she was capable of then sitting across from Megyn Kelly and spinning a tale about her having seen this video and what it represented to her emotionally, a video which was never recorded because it never occurred, to justify her taking over the company that he built.
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And if Erica was then able to shamelessly walk out to the sound of a voice of her husband, which she knew was doctored by AI, right, passing the torch to her, the company is mine, at Amfest, while she wore glittering pants, glittering pants suit and had fireworks going on behind her, she knew this was all AI and they planned this moment to make people feel emotional, then we would have our answer.
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erica would be a confirmed ruthless psychopath okay you know that psychopath brandishing a weapon
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uh that blake's concerned about that would be erica erica would be the kind of person that if
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you see on a subway you should move if you're capable of that because that would mean she was
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void of any and all human emotion capable of i am being clear i am not being dramatic
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if this turns out to be real i would assert that she is capable of real harm she is dangerous
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and I would extend that to every person around her
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We would be looking at a psychological profile of people
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I am asserting that if you have the ability to do that,
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I wanted to sign some papers and steal the will.
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it's like, how can we sell this to the public? We can create this AI video. You need to go out
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and sell this to Megyn Kelly. Say you saw the video that, you know, you were pulled by it and
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then you're going to go out and we're going to have Charlie say it, but we can't show the video
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because the AI tech is not at the right place yet. So it's a little glitchy. So we can't show
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the video. But like, as long as people hear his voice, they're going to be moved to tears. And
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then we're going to bring out Nicki Minaj and this is going to be your moment, baby. So make
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sure you have all that glitter and sparkles. If she was able to do that, truly take a second here
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to just consider that in your mind. If we find that out, confirm, this is AI. What does that
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signify about Erica? It signifies that she had that meeting, that it took place and she was able
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to stomach it. She was able to stomach hearing her husband's voice intentionally manipulated
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after he was ruthlessly murdered and she thought okay he's dead what can he do for me we can use
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his voice to have him hand over the company so people will not blink and they will not ask
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questions there was no reason to do it like i said that's what's even scarier the only purpose
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was because she wanted people to accept her moving into his position and it's becoming increasingly
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likely that that is the circumstance um it like i said would be beyond anything we've ever seen
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a real-life horror movie, if it proves to be true. And I have to say, I do not believe there
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is any upside to the donors lying to me. I don't see the upside. They loved Charlie. They went
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there. They gave their money to Charlie. They don't need to be a part of this story. What is
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the upside for donors to come forward and to say, Candace, keep pressing. This did not happen,
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Anyway, moving on from that, a fun update.
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Erica Kirk, maybe she's now Dr. Erica Kirk.
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she says a lot of stuff she's in drapes nobody knows why she told us that she was going to take
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some time to be with her family then she came in dressed like Janet Jackson she yelled at me she
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yelled at Drewski she yelled at you for the fact that she had to go confront the wine bottles that
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were on the table and then like I'm taking a break but then actually now she's not taking a break
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again it's a quick break and she's back she's always back very quickly and we're probably going
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to get yelled at again, that she had to even go get the speech done for Hillsdale College.
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Somehow it's always different. Erica can do whatever she wants. And we're just sort of left
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here holding the bag. She went to Michigan, to Hillsdale College, to deliver a commencement
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address. OK, it's her prerogative. I think we're all adjusted to this new program of Erica can do
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whatever she wants. And simultaneously, she accepted a posthumous doctorate degree for Charlie,
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honorary doctorate and also an honorary doctorate for herself. And I want to be clear that people
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that are on the left and have been enduring, people on the right saying DEI, DEI, people should
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not be hired on the basis of how they look. They should not receive achievements. It's a regular
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beat. And I do believe that, by the way. I am a full, I'm anti-DEI as well. But they're on the
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internet and they have something to say about it. The internet is saying this stands against
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everything that you guys preached. Why is she getting an honorary doctorate? What does she
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accomplish? And I'll let you, I'm just going to read one of these tweets. This was written by
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someone named Brian Allen. I don't know who this is, but they wrote Hillsdale College, one of
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America's loudest opponents of DEI, just gave a woman an honorary doctorate and commencement speech
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slash Canada. So conservatives, I hate to call balls and strikes here, but like, yeah, that's
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right. That is actually the very definition of DEI. When people have someone come and give a
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commencement address. That's usually not the circumstances that you give someone an honorary
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doctorate for. Fair. I don't mind it. I get it. Like I said, I'm adjusted to this new program
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that she can do whatever she wants, and they're just going to keep handing her stuff, and she's
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just going to become more and more accomplished. And people that are calling this out and saying
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she's not qualified for this, welcome to the program, ladies and gentlemen. Virtually Erica's
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entire educational background has sort of just been fictionalized. And when people began pointing
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this out, we got yelled at. This is just par for the Erica course. We keep being told it doesn't
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matter. Her husband died. Right. She told the when she was trying out for the American race
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with her ex-boyfriend, she never said she never had a boyfriend before Charlie in the five years
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before Charlie, but she did. And when they were trying out for the great American race in the
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video that she submitted, she said that she graduated from ASU magna cum laude. Years later,
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she would edit that credential. She just kind of upgraded it on her LinkedIn page when she wrote
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that she graduated summa cum laude, right? With a double degree, I should mention, you can take a
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look at this, her LinkedIn page in political science and international relations. This is
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this is the old LinkedIn page. It since has been removed. Turns out she didn't graduate magna cum
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loud, and she also didn't graduate summa cum laude. She didn't graduate with any honors,
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and she did not graduate with a double degree. That was all just made up for funsies, and she's
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put it on bios. So this is not like, oh, this was one mistake, and I had an intern that typed a
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button wrong. It's been put on bios. In fact, ASU did not even offer the international relations
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degree at all in 2012. Barron Coleman, some other people online dug up everything from the past to
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see if the catalog even offered it. The answer is no. So she just made it up. And we're not allowed
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to ask questions. Not the only thing she made up. Pull that up again. You will also see on her
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LinkedIn that she has doctor of education, that she received that in Christian leadership from
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Liberty University. That is factually untrue. That's made up. She took a couple of credits
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toward that goal, but she never accomplished it. Just a couple of credits toward the goal
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when her and Charlie were together, and then she decided that was enough and she could
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assert that she had this doctor of education. She doesn't. Our fault for noticing, our fault for
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fact-checking her background at all. How dare we? Her husband died, and she's allowed to
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compulsively lie about everything all the time and if you are a person that thinks hey if you
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have a profile of an individual who compulsively lies about everything that person should probably
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not be put into a leadership role if you feel that way you're the monster and you're demonic
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there were so many holes and so many lies in the erica kirk background and story that we had to
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choose. We had to like think about editing. How are we going to tell the Erica Kirk story when we
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did Bride of Charlie? We had to just leave a lot of them. OK, we're just going to let her go with
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that lie. We never even covered that the whole educational background is made up virtually the
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entire. I mean, she did receive her master's from Liberty University online, but she just keeps
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adding credentials. So I say more power to her. I think we should call her Dr. Erica Kirk. I think
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we should lean in to the absurdity of where we're at right now as a society, where everyone can see
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what she is. And apparently she's a part of the elite class of people. Let's call it the Epstein
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class of people who just don't have to answer. There's no consequences for anything, and they
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can make us the bad guys for noticing. So I salute you, Dr. Kirk. We'll be back after a brief break.
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that we are kind of barreling toward a society of make-believe.
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it's very scary actually if you just pause for a second and consider it it's very strange that
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they're trying to see if they can sort of force us to believe things that are just not so and they
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become angry and they become insisted and they spend more money and they're just getting influencers
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that go out there and they're i just i mean i felt this way by the way when the transgender thing was
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happening i was very vocal against this it's like there's a difference between a woman and a man and
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they just kept pushing it and pushing it and pushing it. And it's like you can wear the clothes
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that you want to wear and feel how you feel, but there is such a thing as reality. And now we've
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moved away from that becoming a social issue. And it was always obviously political, but we're
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starting to see this in politics. We're starting to see them, and that of course is the example
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with Dr. Kirk and her entire background, which makes no sense, where the entire world notices
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that this is what the Erica Kirk story feels like. It feels to me, if you're a conservative,
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like it felt when we were going through the transgenderism argument, where we all know that
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this is not right. So maybe some people are pretending to be nice. It's actually a perfect
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analogy here. A lot of people who I know who initially were like, yeah, let's support
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transgenderism. It's not because they believed it. They just were like, it's just nice. It's a nice
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thing to do. Right. I would say a lot of lefties found themselves in that category. That person
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feels that way. Let them feel that way. And it's the same thing with the Erica Kirk story, where
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they're just ignoring the facts. They're ignoring all the lies. And they're just like, well, it's
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just nice because her husband died that we shouldn't even consider whether or not she's
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lying about things or whether or not she's helping to cover up certain things that would help us
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solve the mystery of how her husband died. And she's not acting right. She's not acting like
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a grieving widow. I'm going to give you another example of this. Like recently, this Nick Shirley
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guy, this thing that is going on, OK, it's now getting weird enough that I do feel the need to
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comment and weigh in. I didn't even know that this was a beef that I accidentally stumbled upon
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that people were saying. The term that they use here is fed jacketed. Essentially, he's being
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created by the media. There are a lot of people that are like that. I would say Barry Weiss is
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a perfect example. We all know she's not qualified to be an executive at CBS. They just don't care.
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They're just, there you go, Barry Weiss. And this Nick Shirley thing is one of the weirdest
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non-beefs that I have ever had. So I'm going to back up here and say I did not follow at all the
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quote-unquote rise of Nick Shirley. He's 24 years old. It was, if I recall, like very quickly after
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the Charlie Kirk assassination. He was sort of introduced first on the Charlie Kirk show on the
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day he died. Remember, we covered that. That's the reason I covered him on the show on September 10th
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when I was trying to work through timelines and I made a mistake. And I completely owned that
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mistake and had a conversation with him. Right after the Charlie Kirk assassination, suddenly
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I was not emotionally available to look at other topics, to cover other topics. I was not interested
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in other trends. And suddenly we have this kid, 23 years old, I think he was last year. And they
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say Nick Shirley has uncovered massive welfare fraud in the Somalian community in Minnesota.
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Okay. A friend of mine just got shot in the neck. Don't really care to follow the story.
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daycare fraud. Great. Thumbs up. Did not peek beyond that at all. I want to be perfectly clear
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here. I did not watch or read even one minute of what he uncovered. So color me completely
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ignorant of the welfare fraud story in Somalia. Just being honest with you, I didn't have it in
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me then, and I just truly did not care. Okay. So then fast forward to me mentioning Nick Shirley
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on the show, and I was like, okay, who is this guy? And I was quite stunned that there was this
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video out there of him saying that he like broke into infiltrated the most dangerous gang in brazil
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in 48 hours like that's so objectively stupid and ignorant you have to be so ignorant to even
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believe that that's just be a headline that your brain automatically rejects right a 23 year old
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kid absent any connections infiltrated a gang in 48 hours is like they are they are trying you right
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now. They're not even trying to give us, like, good slop anymore. Like, we're beneath the level
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of fed slop with this, right? It's just stupid. It's nothing personal, Nick Shirley. It's just
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dumb when you hear it that a person infiltrate a 23-year-old kid, and I did say a white boy for
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a reason, which I will explain, infiltrated the most dangerous gang in Brazil by himself with
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cameras, okay? Anyway, Nick Shirley, after I said this on my show the next day, it was, like,
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trending and all of these people, the people I trust the least, by the way. I mean, like Tim
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Poole, everyone's like writing these statements like Nick Shirley got punched in the face by me
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because I'm not an idiot. I don't have to look deeper into that story. It's obviously objectively
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on its face, untrue and made up. I don't know if it's for entertainment. I don't know if it's
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for funsies. I don't know the purpose of making up something like that. I've just lived a little
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bit of life and know that that's not how it works. And so PBD, who has just been sort of taking
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swipes at me for like since Charlie Kirk died. You know, he notoriously hosted the person who said
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I didn't speak to Charlie since, you know, 2019. We hadn't spoken. We were at war with each other.
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Whatever. I don't care. You know, it's just add it to the pile of people who are constantly
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just making little snide comments on me. But Nick PBD, who was one of the people who issued a kind
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statement about Nick Shirley because gasp, Candace doesn't believe that he infiltrated
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a gang in 48 hours, hosted him on his show. And they show the clip of what I said and
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the PBD is pretending he had no idea. He completely already knew I said this.
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Even the whole little scene you're going to watch between them is just so contrived. It
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just bothers me on a level of why do we have to live in this soap opera? Why are we all
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sim characters? Who is pulling the strings? Anyway, I want you to listen to this conversation
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that they have when the market is supporting you who in the market is criticizing you that you're
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surprised on the conservative side are there people who are like nick go you're doing great
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and then there's people that are like yeah i don't know if i like what he's doing candace owens came
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after me a while back that was very interesting why would candace owens come after you i don't
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know she like didn't believe my brazilian favela video and oh it's not even so you're talking this
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was a couple years ago no no this is like recent she's like white boy i'm like it was very like
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snarky of her to do this interesting this is it yeah
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but which video is that is that a recent video last summer i'm just gonna say i don't believe
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that at all i'm sorry i just i i just it's so stupid i'm not even gonna tell you why i believe
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it's like it's like if you don't know that that's stupid that he infiltrated the gang in 48 hours
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hours like it's just that's so dumb i'm so tired of dumb that's not how that works okay you don't
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just go up to gangs on the street as a nice looking white boy with the camera and say hey
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i just wanted to sort of like see what you're doing here what's going on okay that's just stop
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that's stupid of course that's dumb i'm sorry nick i know you're young i hope you know whoever
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is your contact that has you infiltrating antifa and infiltrating el salvador at the age of 23
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years old it just feels like sean penn young to me meaning like your your handler or you're
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representing somebody like she's basically saying that's fake she's saying that's fake and i'm like
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well maybe these podcasters would actually leave their podcast studios no offense pat
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they'd leave their podcast studios and go and like do journalism like they'd actually see like
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stuff just sometimes just happens it was that last part that really sent me because it's just
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so lol and then this whole like oh why don't you try to do real journalism and like leave your
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basement from podcasting uh alex clark kind of backed this up too because like she can't miss
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an opportunity. Turning Point can't miss an opportunity because I think I took from them
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what they believe is rightfully theirs. But she wrote this. Nick Shirley is a real journalist.
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Candace Owens is not. Oh, OK. So we're in a podcast. We're in the basement. Hey, Nick. So
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the reason why we know that that doesn't make sense, actually, is because you have to be the
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most sheltered person in the world to even have to need it to be explained to you. That's not
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plausible. OK, it's not about it's not a job. OK, people just live in these scenarios. People
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literally, I have five-year-olds in my family who have seen more and lived through more than
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you've probably ever lived through in your life. The circumstance itself did not happen. And I
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cannot tell you how much it frustrates me that you're pretending that I'm coming from a position
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of privilege when it's actually the exact opposite. You couldn't do this in Chicago.
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You couldn't do this in Detroit. Forget in a favela in Brazil. Places like that, which I have
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Brazilians in my family, you don't even go to parts in Brazil without having someone who is from
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that place and from that neighborhood. So no, it's not about podcasting in my basement. I actually
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lived a lot of life, Nick Shirley, before I got to podcasting in my basement, before I was married,
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before I had children. In fact, I moved down to South America for two months to learn Spanish
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with very strict instructions. The school that I enrolled in, don't wear any jewelry, don't wear
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any makeup, don't look American. You don't just go down there. As I said, and why I'm pointing out
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the fact that you are a white boy is because you don't look like them. The whole idea when you're
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down there is to blend in, not to come with the camera, a Mormon kid from Utah with the camera.
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Hey, what's the most dangerous game in this favela? Can I infiltrate in 48 hours? It just
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didn't happen. It didn't even kind of happen. And like I said, that could only work. You'd
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have to sell this to billionaires, right? You could only make people who have never touched
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their own door handles. Like you'd have to grow up like Paris Hilton and go somewhere where Nick
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Shirley is and he tells you about how he infiltrated a favela and she would think that that's plausible
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because she's never even been to like a dangerous gas station. That's how fake that is. Like there
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are gas stations on the New Jersey turnpike that people you couldn't infiltrate. You couldn't buy
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a bag of chips and feel safe. OK, and you're trying to tell us that you're just a 23 year
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old kid who infiltrated a favela in 48 hours. I don't need to pierce beyond the layer. I've just
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lived these things. I've lived these circumstances and so have the majority of people. And so I don't
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understand the purpose of Nick Shirley. I didn't know if there was this huge scandal and then
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subsequently found out that people, you know, think he's fed jacketed. I wasn't trying to hit
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upon that. I just watched the video and had a reaction to how stupid it was that they're trying
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to sell it. They're not even giving us good psyops anymore. They have such low respect for us.
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You couldn't go to trailer parks and do that. There are certain trailer parks, a lot of them,
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And by the way, it's irresponsible to suggest to 23-year-old kids
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and just go down with the camera, no connections,
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and, you know, you'll suddenly arrive and be welcomed into a gang.
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They'll be holding guns and you're perfectly safe.
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His words are just that gentle and just that kind.
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I pointed out that you would have obviously stood out, Nick,
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as a white boy walking through a favela with a camera.
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there's just a certain natural thing that happens.
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Oh, this does not look like someone that should be here.
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you know, below their butts or something like that. You just would look odd. And it is the
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exact opposite of anybody who has lived and been around these areas. You know that you don't do
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that. It's just it's a basic survival thing. You don't do that. I have family reunions. Nick
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Shirley couldn't infiltrate and survive. That's just the reality. Like so this whole like tough
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boy because they don't leave their basement. You sound sheltered. You sound sheltered that you think
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whether we're talking about the Erica Kirk thing,
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whether we're talking about the Nick Shirley thing,
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It's like they've calculated to a point where they should just be able to with X amount of dollars, with this amount of influencers and with this much power behind a political party, whether it's we're going to get Trump to support this person or, you know, we're going to get Kamala Harris to support this person.
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It's like an equation that they're just like this equals success.
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We all just have to know that Nick Shirley did not infiltrate a gang in 48 hours. We all just have to know that it is not normal for a woman whose husband was assassinated in broad daylight to six days later be on a Zoom call laughing about emojis.
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We should all say, nope, doesn't pass the SNF test, and I'm just not going to have you explain to me. I'm not going to make you pretend that this is some sort of controversy because I have common sense. They're trying to make it illegal to think. It's illegal to just know things spiritually, instinctively, intuitively, doesn't pass the SNF test, and I just feel like we have to hold firm on that.
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So I don't mean to use Nick Shirley as an example. I don't care to further wade into the controversy of people who are talking about his background and saying that he's been created. I tend to just look at how people react when I point out the obvious to know that he's got some backing behind him, right? He's up here crying about a little remark about Fabella, like, okay, it didn't happen. So take that or leave that. He is being pushed upon us for some reason. I don't know what that reason is.
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By the way, he's now going to be going to Cuba, guys.
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Man, this is the bravest kid in the entire world.
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It tells us that spy flights there are surging.
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And we all know the CIA is involved in Cuba at this moment.
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so I don't find the timing of Nick Shirley. I find everything about him to be suspicious. I would
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say to everyone, look at these videos with some degree of caution because that none of this is
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natural. Neither is like the fake feigned surprise of PBD. I'm so surprised that Candace came after
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I should also be clear that when we're using the term, we say someone's fed jacketed,
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doesn't mean that this person is a fed themselves.
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It just means that they clearly have connections with the government and they are being sort
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of just kind of put upon us, they're hoisted upon us.
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And I would just say that that's just common sense.
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it was such a non-item on my show that the fact that he's like trying to extend it into some
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beef is ridiculous. The fact that it was even trending after I said it, like I said, the people
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we trust the least all being like, he's the most amazing thing. I can't believe he had to survive
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someone saying that he didn't go to a favela. That in and of itself feels inauthentic. That's
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not a normal way to react to someone saying, yeah, don't buy that one. And like I said, I wasn't aware
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of the history of people who had gone after him
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which for me is the Charlie Kirk assassination.
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I think Erica hit the sixth stage of grief,
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Just very confused about why she was in the drapes.
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I know that I couldn't do that when I was a kid.
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My mom would say, get out them drapes right now.
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she just did that or whatever. And it was very bridal. And the next thing we knew,
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like I said, we were being shouted at. Alex B writes, I desperately need an Erica Kirk
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South Park episode. Yes. Oh my. That would be amazing. Obviously, we would get in so much
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trouble. So much trouble. But I think it's worth it if we are in trouble. We're already in trouble
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Like I said, Charlie would have laughed at that stuff,
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but we see that Erica has taken the Drewski skit
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So it was not because of her race that he did that.
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and it was hilarious, and we just laughed at it.
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that the opposite thing seems to be what they accomplished.
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And the reason for that is because she just comes across
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And they have no response for all of the various lies,
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inconsistencies, inaccuracies that we have pointed out.
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They just keep saying, demonic, send out the pastor,
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send out the pastor to tell him it's demonic, it's demonic.
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we course correct, we apologize, and we move on.
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I'm like, he's sitting up here on the stage yelling at us
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And it's so abusive and narcissistic to do that to people.
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And we all deep down spiritually know that that is untrue, okay?
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Charlie didn't change his mind two weeks before he died.
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We have hours and hours and hours and hours of footage
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You wanted to put on your big girl glitter pants and take his role and be CEO and chairman.
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Well, guess what? Life's tough. Get a helmet. Okay. No one feels bad for you because you have
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to deal with criticism that Charlie had to deal with for the last 10 years. And he took it
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gracefully. He fought. He answered the questions. He allowed people to go through his life.
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I've had to do the same thing. Nobody's crying for me when my family's getting attacked. And
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now all of a sudden you just think that what this was supposed to be, I dub the Erica Kirk,
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the CEO of Upstarting Point USA. Nobody ask any questions. What is that? Wrong country,
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sweetheart. No, we don't do the king and queen, I dub thee stuff here. So if you can't take the
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heat, get the hell out of the kitchen, Erica. That's just the reality. Just get out of the
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kitchen, step down, go away, and pretend to be a grieving widow. That works for everybody.
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Anyway, a little too fired up here. I'm going to move on to your comments from today's episode.
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No, the only princess in this house is my daughter.
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Yeah, she's just working me these days, man.
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They just know what to say to get what they want.
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Hey, Candace, I know you were covering Nick Shirley today,
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involving false flagging and deplatforming other YouTube channels, as well as for doxing and
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harassment. That's very interesting. I did not know that. I will look into that. I had no idea
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who is suing him. I know nothing about that. I just read these comments live, so I wasn't
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expecting that one, and I can't really add anything to that, but thank you for giving me
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that tip. Mrs. MPK writes, what's your response to reporting that during your private interview,
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Erica Kirk gave you Brian Harpole's alibi for the alleged Fort Huachuca sighting? Did you ask Erica
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Ops doing the most, this merits a clarification.
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She gave me the, I thought it was very strange.
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So my thought process, just to remind you guys,
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because this is going to come out in the filings.
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when I had received the email from Mitch or email,
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he was clear that he saw Brian Harpole and he saw Erica, but he said he saw Erica Kirk on the 8th
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and she wasn't leaving a meeting. Brian Harpole, he saw on the 9th and he was leaving the meeting
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on Fort Huachuca base. And that was when the cops were called, all of that. And I, you have to
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remember like at this particular time, I didn't suspect Erica and I felt like she was under a lot
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of like pressure and I didn't want to unnecessarily put a spotlight on her because he saw her at a
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hotel. It wasn't related to the meeting. He didn't see her with Brian. And I knew that her mom and
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her stepdad have contracts with the government. So there's a thousand other reasons that she
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could have been at the Fort Huachuca Air Base that were not, you know, weird. So I made the
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decision when I first presented the story, which was absent before my interview with Mitch. So I
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basically first told Mitch's story, his entire background. And then I said, and he says that he
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saw Brian Harple. If you go back and you watch that, I said he saw Brian Harple on the 9th.
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right removed erica from it entirely instantly the next day erica did went on her tour the stop
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tour and erica suddenly was very panicked about this so it's almost to me like she knew that if
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we got mitch onto the show he was gonna tell the other part which was that he saw erica like there
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was something like she did it was the uh not the five the harrison what is her name on fox news
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I'm totally blanking on her name, if you guys remember it, tell me. Harrison Faulkner is her
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name, I think. Yeah, she went on Harris Faulkner, sorry, Harris Faulkner. She went on that show and
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then she was all fired up for the first time and like, conspiracy theories need to stop.
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That was the very next day. So I was like, that's interesting because we didn't mention the Erica
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part yet. Does she know something that like it felt weird? And the day after that, she did Barry
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Weiss. And they cut the clip of her saying, what do you have to say to the podcaster Candace Owens?
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I then would later find out that they had planned that, the question answer segment. And she's like,
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stop, just stop. Then I got Justin Streif, that backfires. Justin Streif emails us and we're off
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for the weekend because I said, I'm going to interview Mitch next. I had said that. I get
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Ian Carroll calling me and he's got Paramount, I mean, Valhalla, the YouTuber Green Beret,
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basically already threatening me, like, don't interview Mitch. That was what was coming up.
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I wanted to interview Mitch, as I said, or else he's going to sue. So I'm getting threatened with
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a lawsuit before I even interview Mitch. And I'm like, dude, what's up? So I messaged Brian Harpole
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and I'm like, hey, I'm going to have this guy Mitch on, but I could also, if you want to debunk
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it, I'm happy to do it. I don't know this guy, but this reaction doesn't feel organic to me.
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Everybody seems to be panicking and I haven't yet had Mitch on. He doesn't answer. So I'm like,
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OK. Then Erica comes and we sit down. They scheduled it for Monday. And you'll remember.
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So they were still thinking I was going to have Mitch on my show. Then they scheduled it during
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the block where I would normally have my show. They said, let's have a ceasefire. No one's going
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to talk. And then they hosted Paramount Tactical, basically trying to debunk me on the show while I
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was in a hotel for four hours. And I thought it was very odd that she said to me that they were
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very upset with Brian Harpole that they had a communication breakdown with him. They'd never
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authorized him to go on the Sean Ryan show. But then she handed me an alibi for him. I'm like,
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why are you concerned about his alibi? You're not talking to this guy and you're going to fire
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Brian Harpole. Why are you concerned about his alibi so much that you're handing it to me?
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Right. And then we look at it. I looked at it and I said, oh, this actually does not cover
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the time period that Mitch said he saw him. So at that moment, I'm not saying to her anything
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but I'm paying attention to her behavior, right?
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At that point, she had already told me a couple of lies.
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which were for 1.49 p.m. on the 9th, going to Utah.
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And I said, this doesn't cover the time period.
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So this is not, this doesn't actually debunk anything.
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because I'm you're not talking to Brian Harpole so what's up with this you know and after all was
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said and done and then Justin asked me are you going to still didn't mention it to her and then
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Justin asked me uh when is your show off air because we were coming up against Christmas and
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I was like well in a couple of days actually and it was almost like they just kind of wanted to
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get me not to interview him and then I interviewed him I did it on the 18th I was like I'm gonna do
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this because I messaged Brian Harpole. Erica didn't give me an alibi for him. And I allowed
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Mitch to tell a story. And he said that he saw Erica on the 8th. And what happened thereafter
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was we were threatened, literally threatened. I mean, when you see these messages that Valhalla
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was sending about how I would be ruined, he explicitly says we're going to ruin her by being
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like if she does not like basically revoke her commentary about Fort Huachuca, we're going to
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basically bury her in everything mitch has done in his past i'm talking to his ex-wife i'm like
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what is why are valhalla and paramount tactical then they called mitch and they tried to play
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good cop they were like yeah brother like we'd love to have you on the show fellow green green
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beret but they were saying that i made up that he they were telling me the opposite or trying to
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tell me the opposite that this was a case of stolen valor i went this is really weird who's
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directing these two people who's directing paramount tactical and valhalla and then lo
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and behold the answer came when accidentally paramount tactical read erica's alibi um live
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on his show when it said please don't share and then what was stranger is that the kids in the
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photo he's like these are her kids she was walking with her kids i didn't even share the fact that i
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knew that that was not her kids well guess what guess who just admitted that guys paramount tactical
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he says okay fine they have now just admitted over the weekend that the boy in the fort huachuca
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alibi photo is not erica's which the internet immediately clocked okay if you have kids you
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know you're not looking at a 16 month old i think that's how old um their son would have been this
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giant child and i had someone very close to the family say that's not either of the children
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actually so at least we now have paramount admitting that's the alibi that was given in
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which andrew explicitly states she was with her kids as he sends the photo don't share
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those are not her kids maybe it's gg i don't know the person that knows them says it's not
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but we now have confirmation that it's not the son so so much weird stuff happened and then
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these like YouTubers, Valhalla and Paramount Tactical.
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What's weird about that is they were in communication with me.
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hey, just so you know, I saw that you mentioned whatever.
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She was not at Fort Worth because she was here.
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So Andrew Colvett has been doing her dirty work. She's obviously got caught red-handed working with Andrew Colvett to get this out through this obscure YouTube channel, this alibi, after she told me that they had hired Crisis PR and they were moving Andrew out of PR. I can't remember if she said they were going to fire him, but I certainly know that she said they were moving him completely off of PR, full stop, and they had stopped using him because he had been an unmitigated disaster. That was when she was lying about Andrew went rogue, Andrew went rogue.
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So when you have this many lies that are being told about something that I was pretty much like less than 50-50 on, genuinely, I obviously fact-checked enough to know that Mitch was there. He had the videos. I had his hotel reservation. I had confirmed with a source that his ID tags were real, the military ID tags. He had sent me so much overwhelming proof that he was there.
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um when you have that sort of a reaction it doesn't make you think the person was not there
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so they took me from being 40 60 maybe even 30 70 like i believe mitch was there but like he could
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just have a weird memory they could have literally said oh it must have been a lookalike it wasn't
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erica or brian they did way too much and the amount of times that brian harpole lies in this
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lawsuit on its face, to me, does not make me think he was not at Fort Huachuca. Him saying
00:56:07.100
Candace had his alibi, they know that is objectively not true. They know that his
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flights on the 9th were for 1.49 p.m. from Dallas to Salt Lake City. So why would you put that in a
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filing? Why are you saying he went on Sean Ryan because of the grief that I put him through,
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knowing fully well that I never mentioned him on my show until post-Sean Ryan? These are lies.
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then I look forward to getting them. Anyway, that was a, you got a lot more than you bargained for
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with that. But I guess I had to get off my chest. AJ Gons writes, Hillsdale College,
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objective truth or willful blindness? How disappointing. I can tell you that I knew
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that she was going to speak there. I had so many students messaging me that were upset about it.
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It's not who they had imagined their commencement address would be given by. Arkansas, Kansas writes,
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I have this sick feeling in my gut that they are going to say that Tyler Robinson contracted the
00:57:31.220
Hantavirus before the trial begins. I think that nothing can happen to Tyler Robinson. If like,
00:57:39.320
if that happens, it's going to be terrible for Erica. It's going to be terrible for Turning Point
00:57:45.100
USA. They better keep him the healthiest, I would say. That'd be my suggestion. But these people
00:57:50.920
never do the thing that's right. So we'll see what happens. But I don't think that that's likely.
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wouldn't the best way to honor your husband's legacy
00:58:00.200
be to oppose the Iran war and support Thomas Massey
00:58:24.140
not the amazing remarkable erica kirk not the magnificent dr kirk she's like something else
00:58:31.980
jane writes love from the uk christ is king and genocide is always wrong go max still haven't
00:58:37.680
changed my stance on that it's aging like fine wine christ is king genocide is always wrong
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it feels okay good black girl writes new merch please life's tough get a helmet i think we
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actually have that merch on the website um i'm pretty sure let's see let's um check that out on
00:58:57.340
the website we have some new merch no we had it at some point but maybe we should get that back up
00:59:01.200
there anyway speaking of which here's some new merch that we do have on the website um we have
00:59:08.480
some great stuff we've got that candace unchanged stuff uh unchained stuff that's there uh which is
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we've got a lot of great merch right now actually the he david is absolutely crushing it in merch
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So if you'd like to support us and support independent work, you can just buy some merch.
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So if you have considered yourself to be a feminist in the past for all the reasons that I considered myself to be a feminist when I was in college,
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I love the book club and I keep forgetting that we have to do could you just remind me to message
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David that we need to do book club merch like I need just anything you know uh okay anyway you
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guys that is all that I have to say today I completely over answered that question but I
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just want to take you guys through it I do think we are going to do a website so you guys can read
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the documents yourselves and read all the messages and the timeline that I created of how everything
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went down. I am still very suspicious about Fort Huachuca. And I think you should be too.
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Let me know how you feel. We will see you guys tomorrow.