Candace Owens - What Does Israel Have On Donald Trump？

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. I am joined by Milo Yiannopoulos. Do you want to know why? Because it feels like a MAGA funeral. We are both wearing black. A lot has happened in the last 24 hours, really, honestly, since Trump reassumed office. And it's time to talk about it. And at the end, you do kind of want to go back to the beginning. Welcome back to Candace.

00:00:30.000 No, he didn't. He was fantastic. All right, you guys. So there's a long backstory. We have so much we actually need to talk about, but I want to suspend that for a later episode because I actually contacted you weeks ago saying, Milo, I want to have you on. Wanted to go through the history. Yay.

00:00:47.460 But for my audience, my newer audience, and these are people that are on the left. And now I think we're all kind of coming towards the middle and realizing that everything is corrupt and fake and gay. I want to let them know you're actually kind of a piece of my backstory. I didn't know you. But when I was a liberal and on the left and found myself falling down the hole, meaning I realized actually I agree with conservatism and I kind of like Donald Trump. And I was kind of scared to say that as a black person in America. I found your writings.

00:01:16.280 You were a Breitbart and your writing was excellent and you were talking about the ills of modern feminism. You absolutely blew up. And I would say that you are original MAGA, meaning I think of you. I think of Steve Bannon. I think of all of these people when the whole world was like, Donald Trump will never become president of the United States. You guys.

00:01:37.280 We didn't agree.

00:01:38.380 We did not agree.

00:01:38.960 And there were about seven of us when the rest of the country was afraid even to admit who they were voting for.

00:01:43.380 And who would you say were in that original MAGA group? I think of you and Steve Bannon.

00:01:47.820 Yeah, I think Mike Cernovich would be an example.

00:01:49.400 Absolutely, Mike Cernovich.

00:01:50.160 I think that even Baked Alaska was there up with us front row in some of the talks.

00:01:57.600 My buddy Pizza Party Ben, if people remember him, if you were a little bit more online at that time.

00:02:03.640 And, you know, really it was a very small group.

00:02:05.460 I would say Stefan Molyneux, who's just got back to Twitter, who's sort of a, I guess he's an online philosopher, I guess you would say.

00:02:13.300 You know, really it was a very small group.

00:02:15.080 And I got a compliment from somebody high up in the campaign in 2016 that I think was excessive.

00:02:20.700 I don't think it's fair.

00:02:21.560 But, you know, he said, oh, you're one of those seven people who put him in office.

00:02:24.020 I said, come on, grow up.

00:02:24.860 But what I think he was getting at was that at a time when even Americans were afraid to admit who they were voting for, although they did in huge numbers, there were, you know, seven or eight or nine of us or whatever who were out there every day.

00:02:41.100 Vocally supporting him.

00:02:41.900 Saying, it's okay.

00:02:43.040 Even if you don't admit it to your wife, do it in the booth.

00:02:46.200 And fortunately, we did persuade them.

00:02:48.720 And so, yeah, I mean, I was there when he came down the golden elevator, which other people kind of saw in retrospect.

00:02:57.220 And I sort of, at that time, I was kind of, what is going on here?

00:03:01.940 This is exciting.

00:03:02.820 This is interesting.

00:03:03.780 And then when he came out and said.

00:03:05.700 Why were you there?

00:03:06.740 You were there when he came down the escalator.

00:03:07.980 How did you get there?

00:03:08.760 I was invited by a friend who said, I think you're going to want to come along to this.

00:03:13.420 Somebody who works at a hedge fund.

00:03:14.960 And at that time, you know, if he was sort of vaguely somehow connected to the Trump organization or maybe whatever, people kind of had an idea that Trump was going to do something, right?

00:03:25.240 Because he'd been trailing for many years that he was going to run for president.

00:03:27.860 And people sort of, he's going to make an announcement of some kind, either that he is or he isn't.

00:03:32.300 And so a friend of mine invited me and said, you probably want to be here for this.

00:03:34.900 And it was the kind of person that only says it when they mean it.

00:03:37.100 So when he started to speak in that unfiltered, extraordinary way about immigration, and in that announcement, when he right out of the gate said something along the lines, you know, they're not saying they're best, the Mexicans are rapists.

00:03:53.020 They're like, oh, this is the guy that people have been waiting for that is going to speak like they do.

00:04:00.000 This is the guy that they've been waiting for that is going to speak directly, plainly, honestly, persuasively, and in that demotic mode, in the manner in which we speak to each other over the kitchen table about the things that are freaking them out.

00:04:15.700 And nobody else is going to do it.

00:04:17.440 All right, I'm in.

00:04:18.500 And for most of the last nine years, I have been here.

00:04:21.480 That's correct.

00:04:22.520 And I think that's definitely what drove me toward him.

00:04:25.800 I liked the fact that he spoke what felt like he was being very honest.

00:04:29.040 He understood how to speak to a blue collar worker to say, look around you, look at the roads, you've got immigrants coming in, your jobs are being taken, and I'm going to fix it.

00:04:38.920 Build the wall was the chant.

00:04:40.220 And he had that reflexive thing, didn't he, that atavistic understanding of the working man.

00:04:44.320 And we thought to ourselves, well, he's a construction guy, isn't he?

00:04:46.660 So he's been on building sites his whole life, and he knows how to talk to people who lift and stack and make things for a living.

00:04:53.340 Right.

00:04:53.700 And it was very exciting.

00:04:54.820 Yeah, it was exciting.

00:04:55.900 And so you supported him, presumably, through the first four years?

00:04:59.240 Yes, I did.

00:05:01.000 And I, you know, a lot of people who supported him and did a lot for him weren't necessarily recognized for it in the first administration.

00:05:08.700 But I think that the supporters like me, you might say, more colorful, hard to handle, maybe, kind of supporters fall into two brackets.

00:05:17.100 You've got the people who are just desperate to be next to him at all costs, even if it's not the right thing for him.

00:05:21.620 And then those of us who are content with the victory and happy to chill.

00:05:26.520 So I never really made much of an effort to kind of engage with the administration the first time around.

00:05:30.080 By the same token, they didn't really, you know, whatever.

00:05:32.140 A lot of us in the same boat.

00:05:34.600 And that wasn't such a big deal.

00:05:36.200 But I think that many of us felt that first Trump administration was not exactly all that we were hoping that it would be.

00:05:44.100 And not really what we were expecting from candidate Trump that time around.

00:05:50.340 What would you say?

00:05:51.860 Because I honestly think I was still very much asleep.

00:05:54.700 And you're correct.

00:05:55.500 I remember Ann Coulter.

00:05:56.500 She was someone who very early on supported Trump.

00:05:58.480 And then she sort of said, this is not what I...

00:05:59.940 I had to talk her into it.

00:06:00.680 You did.

00:06:01.080 Okay, yeah.

00:06:01.400 She said, this is not what I wanted.

00:06:02.980 And then she wrote two books about him.

00:06:04.960 By all accounts, they had a meeting in the Oval Office that did not go well.

00:06:09.000 And unfortunately, I don't think they got on particularly well, which is a real shame.

00:06:12.360 Because I think Ann has a reasonable claim to having written the manifesto for his first victory, which is Adios America.

00:06:20.160 And what do you think changed when he got into office?

00:06:22.860 Or I guess, what were you disappointed in that first term?

00:06:25.220 We didn't see much of the campaigning Trump.

00:06:27.340 We saw a lot of the old business as usual Republican Party, you know, tax cut bills passed and this, that and the other.

00:06:36.420 So, and it didn't feel like what we were building up to.

00:06:43.080 It was almost sort of, it was anticlimactic.

00:06:45.920 It was almost as though, you know, we had this...

00:06:49.280 I mean, I walked into the Trump Victory Party on the evening of the election in 2016.

00:06:54.680 And everybody in there was ashen-faced.

00:06:56.940 There wasn't a person in there who believed that he would win, including him.

00:07:00.240 Except me, a friend of mine, Mike Marr, and two other guys that I brought with me.

00:07:06.140 And we were like, and we looked around and the room, it was like a funeral.

00:07:09.520 Well, not dressed as snazzily as we are today.

00:07:13.800 But I didn't understand it.

00:07:17.000 I was like, what's wrong with you guys?

00:07:18.560 Like, you know he's winning, right?

00:07:20.340 When the New York Times has to put out a poll that says that Hillary's got a 98% or 96% chance, do you remember that, of winning?

00:07:27.460 You know that's like, they're in real trouble.

00:07:29.860 And nobody got it.

00:07:30.620 The president himself was, you know, when he was spotted, was looking like he just wanted to get the evening over and done with and go home.

00:07:38.600 When he won, I think everybody sort of caught up to the excitement and realized that actually, oh, maybe my vote did make a difference, you know, back at home.

00:07:49.760 But then the administration, it didn't seem to deliver on any of the promises.

00:07:53.140 We didn't really get any movement on borders or great victories against universities.

00:08:02.140 At that time, remember that we would all been talking a lot about campus rape culture and the gender pay gap.

00:08:10.200 These are the sorts of things that people were talking about then, all of which had been exploded and exposed and discredited.

00:08:16.880 But all those people still seem to remain in power and all those institutions didn't seem to be losing very much by the fact of Trump being president.

00:08:24.940 In fact, if anything, they seemed to be doing quite well fundraising while he was in and he wasn't really stacking up the victories that we were expecting.

00:08:31.460 So I think, I don't think I'm alone in saying that first Trump administration was something that left us all feeling deflated.

00:08:41.300 I would say when I examined that, I always thought it was so unfair because he was constantly fighting.

00:08:49.880 I mean, I just every single day, I think most people assumed that, OK, you fight, you win.

00:08:55.380 Now you're the president. Now the media is going to want to applaud you and want you to do well because you're the leader of the free world.

00:09:01.640 And that wasn't the case. I think for the first time ever, it was every day they kept the pressure on new scandal, this scandal, this person's coming up, this person's saying this.

00:09:09.080 And I think that probably surprised him before he could even properly become accustomed to being the president of the United States.

00:09:14.640 He was constantly having to fight everywhere. So I was able to excuse that because I feel that we were very much a part of fighting that.

00:09:21.740 We were fighting the media with him, fighting the fake news media with him.

00:09:25.000 This time, though, fast forwarding to today.

00:09:28.120 He kind of disproved that with the second administration, right?

00:09:30.300 Because he came in all guns blazing with a team of crack troops.

00:09:34.620 You know, he came in with his Praetorian guard and it was something that some of us had been saying, you know, we saw it in action.

00:09:41.300 You can just turn around and say, you know, get on with it.

00:09:45.620 And he did. And so that, you know, if anything, left us feeling a little bit more robbed about the first administration because it's like we do this hard work to get him in the first time.

00:09:56.080 It was not easy to persuade Americans that this was a realistic proposition.

00:10:00.760 I mean, I mentioned I had to persuade Anne. I mean, I really had to persuade her.

00:10:04.620 She was very upset by what Trump said about Ted Cruz's wife, for instance.

00:10:10.540 And now we would kind of barely think twice about a comment like that from Trump.

00:10:14.660 But at the time, it was just not the sort of thing people expected to hear from a presidential candidate.

00:10:18.720 So, you know, those of us who were out giving speeches and the rest of it, we were doing a lot of work behind the scenes as well.

00:10:23.360 Doing the best that we could to kind of get the people we knew had a lot of firepower, you know, behind this.

00:10:28.260 But we sort of robbed of progress there and then robbed of a whole election after that.

00:10:34.640 Thank goodness we thought at the beginning of this administration, things now seem to be happening.

00:10:40.800 Things are getting done now in a way that, you know, they should have been the last two times.

00:10:45.640 At least that's what we thought.

00:10:47.340 I don't even I genuinely am trying to process what's happening with this administration.

00:10:52.360 Obviously, this is Israel. We have been infiltrated by Israel.

00:10:55.420 I'm wondering if maybe we were always infiltrated by Israel and we just weren't paying attention.

00:10:58.680 But the first remarkable fumble and this was shocking to me because Trump, generally speaking, has good social skills and is able to read a room correctly.

00:11:07.740 I would say that right for him to come out and say, why are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

00:11:13.300 And if you're still on it, I don't want you as supporters.

00:11:16.200 That I just go, is somebody tweeting for him? Do they have something on him? Is he actually sweating bullets?

00:11:21.080 Because the Trump that I know is smarter than to try to gaslight his supporters.

00:11:26.820 So what did you what is your read on that when he did that?

00:11:29.080 When he said, so here's the thing. The grand, you know, pedo theory or whatever, this this idea that there are elites wielding extraordinary power in the shadows using evidence against each other of whatever who have wisdom.

00:11:48.840 This is not a conspiracy theory. This is how every civilization in human history has become at the end, at the late decadent period, just before things collapse.

00:11:59.120 It is not unusual or crazy or right wing or lunatic to say, I kind of think there might be a secret cabal of like powerful pedophiles running the world.

00:12:10.820 That's exactly what happens in every empire in history. It's what happened in Rome. It happens in all of them.

00:12:17.440 So it isn't weird or strange that people would imagine that might be happening now as our civilization looks as though it may be crumbling.

00:12:25.840 It's just not weird to think that. It was also a central plank of Marga.

00:12:31.360 It's why it's why 2016 happened. It's one of the three or four things that made 2016 happen.

00:12:36.840 This idea that the Democrats in particular, although probably we didn't want to know too much, but, you know, or maybe we did, but, you know, probably some people are on the side too.

00:12:44.740 But but most of the Democrats, celebrities, politicians, the rest of it, were in cahoots with people like Jeffrey Epstein.

00:12:52.020 Doing backdoor deals, not passing laws or not running institutions for the people, but rather for their own enrichment, engorgement and power.

00:13:03.340 And they all also happen to be wrapped up, if not in outright pedophilia, at least in sexual degeneracy and so on and so forth.

00:13:09.900 And this is kind of a rump of people at the top of society, the elites, who live basically beyond consequence, who live free from worry about the terrible things they do, things that would end the life of anybody else because they are insulated by this, you know, by the world in which they live and everybody looking out for everybody.

00:13:30.820 That strikes me as a demonstrable fact of reality and not necessarily anything too great.

00:13:35.020 So this is this is this is this is a plank along with the border and a few other things, free speech that become the motivating social energies behind 2016, why it happens, right?

00:13:51.280 Why Trump is possible at that moment, why people are open to voting for somebody so unusual in politics, why people were prepared to take the risk.

00:14:00.560 Like Epstein is the key that unlocks the secrets, the secret architecture of our world, the way in which power is structured and operates over all of us and over and for its own benefit and for the enrichment and engorgement and protection of a couple of people.

00:14:18.460 He represents in one person everything that we worry about, that we fear, that we strongly suspect is happening and that we're probably right about.

00:14:26.880 He's a symbol for all of it. And for Donald Trump, who we had previously assumed was somebody who just got us when nobody else did, to turn around and say, I don't understand why people are going on about this.

00:14:40.520 I think it's just bad people. My former supporters. If you if you're if you're if you're into this, I don't want your support.

00:14:47.540 Oh, when I heard that, my response was very simple.

00:14:52.020 OK. OK.

00:14:54.260 Yeah, mine was a bit more.

00:14:57.660 More expletive.

00:14:58.620 It was. I just was like I said this to Tucker Carlson a few days ago.

00:15:03.080 I would have preferred you saying F you.

00:15:06.140 Na na na boo boo. You can't touch us. We have so much power.

00:15:08.720 Because then I would have appreciated the honesty.

00:15:11.520 At least be mad.

00:15:11.940 I would appreciate the honesty. But gaslighting us, like going back to this Sigmund Freud technique, pretending he doesn't know, pretending he doesn't know why we're upset.

00:15:20.640 You fully know why we're upset. You fully know why this matters.

00:15:23.760 In fact, it was your administration that you've now put in your administration who have communicated the importance of Jeffrey Epstein.

00:15:30.640 Whether we're talking about you did it, you did it.

00:15:33.660 Your sons did it.

00:15:34.640 And so there was just this moment where I wasn't just frustrated. I was angry. I was actually angry.

00:15:41.220 And then the stupidity, which is required for supporters to believe when Pam Bondi then looks over and says, we don't know if he was working.

00:15:51.500 Come off it, love.

00:15:52.600 Wouldn't you rather than they just say F you? I would prefer that.

00:15:55.900 Yes, you're right. You're right.

00:15:57.040 It's more respectful to just say F you.

00:15:58.880 It is. And at least with F you, you can say, well, there must be a lot going on. I'll talk to you when you calm down.

00:16:07.420 At least there's an opportunity to circle back and to forgive and to assume that something must be going.

00:16:15.920 It's like you're going for a lot. You know, something, something.

00:16:19.300 Give us something to cling to. But no, cold, calculated, repeated. I don't want you. Okay.

00:16:24.720 Um, this was a betrayal, not just of his supporters, their priorities and, um, uh, and his own promises, but it was, it was an attempt to deny one of the reasons that he got elected in the first place and pretend that it didn't exist.

00:16:41.860 And this is a level of lie, a level of audacity that is so disrespectful and so outrageous and so extraordinary that it leaves you wondering, all right, what have they got on you? What's going on?

00:16:57.800 There was something about the gaslighting too, that for me felt very academic. And what I mean by that is just in my life and my experience, you find these people who believe so much in their degrees, right?

00:17:09.060 They're, they, we rule over you because I have a master's degree in this and I'm smarter than you.

00:17:14.060 Blind faith of credentialism.

00:17:15.260 Yes. Credentialism without question. And I will tell you right now, the blue collar people are smarter than them. Okay. These people would die if they had to go out and hitch a, hitch a tent in the forest. Literally, they wouldn't be able to survive on basic skills.

00:17:27.620 Or even do a middle-class job, be a travel agent.

00:17:29.900 They wouldn't be able to do any of this stuff, right? Common sense is so much more admirable.

00:17:34.220 And when he said that, he basically looked at people who have common sense, right? Who recognize what's happening.

00:17:40.520 They maybe don't hold the degrees of, you know, your ilk people that graduate to, you know, from UPenn and their sons go to UPenn, but they know what Jeffrey Epstein is and they know what Jeffrey Epstein was.

00:17:51.040 And so he lost.

00:17:52.300 And they know he didn't kill himself.

00:17:53.360 They know he didn't kill himself. And so he lost something that was almost magical about him.

00:17:58.720 Again, like the ability to be a person that comes from this class of people, but to be able to speak to the blue collar worker, to the middle class.

00:18:07.340 He lost that. He suddenly became one of them in that moment.

00:18:10.500 I agree. And in a sense, he took a steaming pile of, you know what, on his legacy, on his supporters and on the underpinning assumptions that he was voted in office on the basis of.

00:18:29.780 He denied who he was.

00:18:33.320 He didn't just lie to us. He didn't just deny us.

00:18:36.360 He denied himself too. That betrayal was a betrayal of his own movement, of his legacy.

00:18:42.640 This was to say Trumpism was fake. It's not real. It's all crazy. You're lunatics. I'm the president. Shut up.

00:18:50.980 That was a betrayal of his own place in history.

00:18:56.860 Now let me ask you.

00:18:57.480 That's why it's so unforgivable.

00:18:59.000 What could move Trump to betray himself? That's what I'm interested in now.

00:19:03.220 Now it's the why. What does Israel have on Trump?

00:19:05.920 Is it Israel? I think it's Israel.

00:19:07.980 Interesting leap to make, but not really.

00:19:11.280 Because the last 48 hours, the last 56 hours have been the worst, you know, to the extent that I've had a life in public life,

00:19:22.880 the worst couple of days of my life to see somebody who, you know, and I had a bit of a wobble in 20, whenever it was, you know, I'm not going to lie about that.

00:19:30.140 But, you know, and I've even served other candidates for high office, you know, in the meantime.

00:19:35.660 But, you know, I began and thought that I would end my political life, or at least, you know, the extent to which I'm in public life, with Trump.

00:19:45.180 And certainly, you know, I was excited about that.

00:19:47.020 You know, you see people like Stephen Miller on TV and you're like, yeah.

00:19:49.460 But to hear him in the last few days, and so I think you're maybe right about that country, to hear him say in the last few days that, you know,

00:20:04.540 or to get the message that his administration was going to deny disaster relief funds to states that don't do whatever, you know, to take, you know, to insufficiently obsequious.

00:20:21.280 Yes, if you're boycotting Israel and you get hit by a hurricane.

00:20:25.220 If you've got Haagen-Dazs in the fridge instead of Ben and Jerry's, you know, you're screwed.

00:20:28.160 And then the same day, after having, you know, committed treason in the morning, to commit genocide in the afternoon,

00:20:36.500 by saying, by giving an indication that Israel would be fine to go and just annex Gaza, a place where they have been.

00:20:42.540 Which is what Miriam, and by the way, just so everybody's clear, they're also going to take the West Bank.

00:20:47.920 Miriam Adelson came to him and said, no, we're not taking Gaza, we're also taking the West Bank and we want you to look the other way and here's $100 million.

00:20:52.980 So they're currently going door to door and traumatizing people that live in the West Bank, right?

00:20:58.740 Palestinians that live in the West Bank.

00:21:00.480 And Trump is pretending he doesn't know that's going on and now penalizing Americans who should rightfully be outraged that we pretend we were the leaders of the free world.

00:21:13.680 You know what I mean?

00:21:14.160 Everybody should want to live like us.

00:21:15.540 So we've got it all figured out.

00:21:16.560 It's so we have so much high morality.

00:21:18.600 And yet you look at what's happening in Gaza and all of our politicians do not have the stomach to say what is so obviously true.

00:21:28.020 And what is obviously true is that by the time this is over, Netanyahu's Israel will have eclipsed Hitler's Germany by many, many, many, many counts, morally speaking, and probably by the numbers, too.

00:21:40.320 Because the way that that country is behaving, you know, it's the kind of thing that, you know, people are like, all right, come on, calm down.

00:21:46.000 But no, I mean it.

00:21:48.060 The manner in which they are exterminating innocent children.

00:21:52.940 No, it has eclipsed it.

00:21:54.260 Somebody showed that they were using this measure, like, you know, Israel and their propaganda was using this measure for October 7th, saying this is the equivalent of this would be like by rate killing this many people.

00:22:03.620 Oh, well, you get Mark Levin go on TV and say, yeah.

00:22:06.200 And they were like, that would be the equivalent of murdering 44 million Americans.

00:22:10.520 If Mark Levin can go on television and say that losing, you know, 300 IDF soldiers is equivalent of 3,000 American soldiers, I think perhaps we'll take the same approach to mathematics.

00:22:21.080 And now they're not doing that approach to mathematics anymore.

00:22:23.780 Yes, yes.

00:22:24.480 But interesting, isn't it, the outcry to both and the one that Trump rolled back and the one he didn't.

00:22:29.860 And he rolled back the Zionist virtue signaling, meaning, okay, fine, let's cut that bit out of the homeland FEMA terms, which they then tried to pretend.

00:22:45.640 Oh, yeah, let's actually show that.

00:22:46.940 Let's actually, because they think we're this stupid.

00:22:49.060 Again, he just thinks everybody's so dumb.

00:22:50.660 Unbelievable.

00:22:50.980 But they actually had the language on the DHS website where they, you were going to be denied the funds.

00:22:59.760 And I'm just trying to see which line this is on.

00:23:01.940 On the left-hand side, is that the Israel, oh, here it is.

00:23:05.040 Yeah, it says, with companies doing business in or with Israel or authorized by, licensed by, organized under the laws of Israel to do business.

00:23:14.480 Discriminately prohibited.

00:23:15.200 You can't boycott these companies.

00:23:16.240 Then they just delete it, and they actually went on Twitter and tried to gaslight the public.

00:23:22.640 It's on full Zionist now.

00:23:23.980 They're like, we had it on the website.

00:23:25.640 We're going to disappear from the website, and then we're going to say, what are you guys talking about?

00:23:29.440 We never had that language.

00:23:30.960 You know it's that.

00:23:32.020 Homeland Security is now getting notes added on X for lying.

00:23:38.780 Readers added context they thought you might like to know.

00:23:41.040 This is misleading.

00:23:41.780 DHS terms and conditions only now removed the section stating boycott means refuse to do.

00:23:46.240 To deal cutting commercial relations or otherwise limiting commercial relations specifically with Israeli companies.

00:23:51.240 That was a language.

00:23:52.200 They removed it, and the Homeland Security had the nerve to pretend that it wasn't there.

00:23:57.220 That is extraordinary.

00:23:58.520 That's the one that they rolled back because that's the one that actually doesn't really matter.

00:24:02.200 It's offensive, and if it had been carried through, and if it had been honored, and there had been a disaster, and a state hadn't been ready, and it was because of this, I think maybe you could say, it's treason, bro.

00:24:20.480 It just is.

00:24:21.060 I think it's fair.

00:24:21.740 Even the threat is treason.

00:24:23.600 Even having the language on that website.

00:24:25.880 Maybe it is.

00:24:26.640 Maybe it is.

00:24:27.380 I've been careful about this word because I didn't like it when it was floated all the time.

00:24:30.740 This is treason.

00:24:31.480 It almost became comical.

00:24:32.660 I'm close.

00:24:33.020 I'm close.

00:24:33.600 Treason.

00:24:33.960 Maybe it is.

00:24:34.520 This is the closest I've been to saying, no, actually, if you were going to deny Americans in need supplies during a time of need because they are within their own free will deciding that—

00:24:46.960 It's more than bad enough.

00:24:48.000 It's more than bad enough, and I think it probably is that, but it doesn't actually matter because—I mean, of course, it would matter to their lives if it happened, but it's based on a—the BDS thing, it's all virtue signaling, right?

00:24:58.720 It's a leftist thing.

00:25:00.080 And if states are having sanctuary cities, something that you were elected to do, and you want to withhold funds—I wouldn't withhold disaster funds over that because that's mental.

00:25:11.840 That's absolutely psychopathic.

00:25:14.240 It's just because somebody lives in a state that has sanctuary cities.

00:25:17.840 I live in California.

00:25:19.380 What do you think it was an earthquake?

00:25:20.460 You're going to let me plunge down a ravine?

00:25:22.140 Sorry!

00:25:22.940 Yeah, like that is psychopathic, and that's what we were hoping to defeat by keeping the drunk out.

00:25:32.340 And the last one.

00:25:33.880 But the two female presidents stopped by Trump.

00:25:36.920 You can't take that away from him.

00:25:38.400 But that is psychopathic enough.

00:25:40.440 But that's the one—ultimately, it's kind of virtue signaling in the gesture, you know.

00:25:46.040 But the one he caved on was that the one nobody has had a thing to say about was giving the nod to Israel to effectively move in and just take over.

00:25:56.700 And how recently it was, think how recently it was, that Trump, irritated by disrespect and bad behavior from Netanyahu, was signaling when he was here that maybe America would have a presence in Gaza.

00:26:13.220 That maybe there would be a Trump Tower in Gaza, not to Netanyahu's visible displeasure and surprise, saying some of this stuff, right?

00:26:23.060 And how soon, how quickly, we got to the stage where Trump has said, yeah, just kidding, they can have it all.

00:26:29.640 I think it's performative.

00:26:30.520 I think Trump's family is invested.

00:26:32.360 If you look at Jared Kushner's, the money that he's spending right now in Israel, I think that's what Trump is more concerned about, which is his family's legacy.

00:26:40.380 Obviously, in my viewpoint, October 7th was planned.

00:26:43.560 This is a false flag.

00:26:44.440 They always had—the fact that Miriam Adelson came to him before—

00:26:47.100 There isn't a doubt in my mind.

00:26:47.860 Of course it was planned.

00:26:49.060 Israel has conducted so many false flags in the past.

00:26:51.940 And then—

00:26:52.340 It's not just that.

00:26:52.840 The fact that he's being investigated for that and they're keeping everything hush-hushing.

00:26:56.080 It's a national security risk about how he was feeding talking points to—

00:27:00.020 Your country's going through this and you're feeding talking points and you're being investigated for corruption pertaining to what happened on that day.

00:27:07.740 I mean, it's very obvious.

00:27:08.580 There are rabbis in Jerusalem today who are saying just this.

00:27:11.460 Of course.

00:27:11.940 There are rabbis in Tel Aviv who are saying just this.

00:27:14.540 There's no explanation for the Iron Dome mysteriously not working after its, you know, flawless record.

00:27:21.040 Why pilots were kept on—

00:27:22.880 He moved the troops from the border.

00:27:24.000 Right.

00:27:24.440 Moved that music festival to the border so that they had lots of lovely, young, nubile, sympathetic victims.

00:27:30.500 Why the IDF was grounded for hours in an area where they could almost hear their own family members in the nearby housing.

00:27:37.040 Why they intercepted the hostage plan.

00:27:38.900 Right, right.

00:27:39.520 And they just ignored it.

00:27:41.140 It is not—

00:27:42.780 Egypt's warnings that there's a build-up happening on the border.

00:27:45.400 We're just not interested right now, actually.

00:27:47.360 Suddenly this—

00:27:47.980 Let me tell you something.

00:27:48.900 We're just not interested.

00:27:49.500 Mossad knows—I like how you call it the Mossad, which is correct.

00:27:54.580 The Mossad knows.

00:27:55.780 They know how many American Catholic bishops are homosexuals to the man.

00:28:01.840 Because I met somebody who works in Israeli intelligence who told me, oh yeah, it's 88%.

00:28:06.640 I said, what?

00:28:08.020 Oh, 88% of American Catholic bishops.

00:28:10.640 And I said, what do you mean 88%?

00:28:12.480 He said, oh, well, we checked.

00:28:14.520 I was like, what do you mean you checked?

00:28:16.720 For them not to know what's happening on their own border is ludicrous.

00:28:21.260 Again.

00:28:21.480 It is unbelievable.

00:28:22.500 And now it makes sense because when I very innocently tweeted, no country in the world

00:28:27.460 has a right to commit a genocide, what was it, two years ago or a year and a half ago?

00:28:31.200 Shocking, controversial statement.

00:28:32.760 They were so reactive.

00:28:35.220 They knew what was happening the entire time.

00:28:37.660 You know, they had their people in place to gaslight the public, their media members

00:28:42.480 in place.

00:28:43.040 You had people like Dave Rubin who reacted to this tweet.

00:28:45.120 Like, I said something so crazy.

00:28:46.300 Like, I thought that was obviously true.

00:28:48.080 We should never be supporting a genocide.

00:28:49.540 And I believe that every moment of October 7th was planned.

00:28:55.640 And not even just like months in advance, years in advance that they had planned to expand

00:28:59.960 Israel's border.

00:29:00.620 It's reasonable.

00:29:01.160 It's possible.

00:29:01.300 Same time with what's happening in Syria.

00:29:02.960 Everything seems like it was part of a broader plan.

00:29:06.920 And Trump, I have to ask the question, whether or not he was aware.

00:29:12.120 What did he know and when?

00:29:12.860 What did he know and when?

00:29:13.700 Yeah, I think it's reasonable.

00:29:15.880 And to, you know, to try to claim that there's this blind spot where suddenly they just had

00:29:28.880 a failure of intelligence.

00:29:30.980 But all these other things, I mean, this is a country that has gone so far, an administration,

00:29:36.640 Netanyahu's that is, that has gone so far that they're now willing to sacrifice their own

00:29:40.400 citizens in order to increase their borders.

00:29:44.900 Well, where does that, where do I remember that from?

00:29:48.580 Could it be the word Lebensraum?

00:29:50.780 Could it be a country that did exactly that?

00:29:53.040 And it makes me wonder, well, it reminds me of why we don't give the victims of crime

00:29:59.440 power over sentencing of the perpetrators.

00:30:04.840 Because if, you know, if the Jewish people suffered to whatever extent, you know, people

00:30:10.360 have their own ideas about that, under the Nazis, under the Third Reich, and have held

00:30:16.920 on to that as a core part of their identity, their victimization at the hands of the Nazis,

00:30:22.160 which to some degree, of course, happened, and define themselves according to that victimhood,

00:30:29.200 they're the last people you want to give a gun to.

00:30:31.300 Well, or the Bolsheviks who magically disappeared and may have reappeared, laundering themselves

00:30:35.320 through as there are actual, actually were Jewish victims during World War II.

00:30:39.580 And then there were people like Elie Wietzel and Robert Maxwell, who may have actually been,

00:30:44.220 you know, working for other people, doing demonic things.

00:30:46.540 And then they just said, oh, no, we were victims, too.

00:30:48.420 That's my perception.

00:30:49.080 We know for a fact that some of the Bolsheviks were protected in Israel, and these people

00:30:52.160 were mass-murdering Christians, you know.

00:30:53.900 So you start to ask the question, that can't leave you, right?

00:30:56.600 When you have this spirit of just murder and lying and deception and gaslighting.

00:31:03.160 But you're encouraged by the mythology that despite the terrible things that you do, you

00:31:10.460 are history's greatest victims.

00:31:11.920 And therefore, anything you do is somehow justified.

00:31:15.980 This is why we don't give rape victims the power to decide if their rapist, you know,

00:31:20.720 goes away for life or gets the death penalty.

00:31:23.740 Why we don't give orphans guns.

00:31:26.500 Because we need grown-ups in the room to decide what's reasonable and to hand or to allow the

00:31:35.560 acquisition of nuclear weapons in the hands of a rogue state that murders its own people

00:31:41.960 by omission or commission, that has the ability to take out cities, and that believes that

00:31:49.680 its people are history's great victims.

00:31:52.980 This cannot be allowed.

00:31:54.560 No, it's completely crazy.

00:31:57.060 And this is definitively what Trump, his entire legacy, is over.

00:32:01.000 I think it really is over.

00:32:01.980 I think MAGA is over.

00:32:03.260 There's no question.

00:32:03.900 I mean, MAGA with Trump, I guess, leading the movement is completely over.

00:32:08.840 What MAGA will become in the future is kind of what the question is going to be, because

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00:34:10.660 Okay, I want to kind of get into what everybody else, the MAGA originals, the patristics of

00:34:16.560 MAGA, if you will.

00:34:18.080 Steve Bannon tweeted, I don't know if we have his tweet, which I thought was very interesting,

00:34:22.200 but he tweeted essentially Israel first.

00:34:23.880 Obviously, everyone's recognizing that as it pertains to what they tried to-

00:34:27.180 Meaning, I think, is a criticism, right?

00:34:28.680 Yeah, of course.

00:34:28.980 Yeah, he said Israel first.

00:34:30.080 Yeah, I should be clear.

00:34:30.720 They're tongue-in-cheek, Israel first, and in response to this FEMA policy, they obviously-

00:34:36.660 Yeah, Israel first.

00:34:37.440 He sees him shaking hands.

00:34:38.700 Trump has finally betrayed America.

00:34:40.580 And yeah, there was this revolution, which I'm proud of, by the way, because I think it

00:34:44.000 shows that MAGA is not a cult, that people are outraged, that he is not a king, that we

00:34:49.600 will say that he's gone way too far.

00:34:51.620 But it's not the only thing that happened.

00:34:54.060 I want to get to this, and you are the right person to speak about it.

00:34:57.180 I remember watching clips, and Skylar, if you can find a clip, please pull it.

00:35:01.460 You went to Berkeley University, and they tried to kill you, okay?

00:35:05.760 Literally, Milo Yiannopoulos went to speak at Berkeley University a very long time ago, and

00:35:11.160 they tried to burn the place down.

00:35:13.260 I remember they were throwing chairs through windows, and there was a fire.

00:35:17.160 They started a fire because they did not want to hear a person that was supporting Trump

00:35:21.980 speak at their campus.

00:35:23.860 It was insane.

00:35:24.480 You have no idea.

00:35:25.360 Now I've left the homosexual life behind me.

00:35:28.040 I will never be able to do this now.

00:35:29.780 But that night, I had planned to wear a resplendent Native American headdress as my outfit.

00:35:34.220 It was the climax of the tour.

00:35:35.800 I was going to talk about cultural appropriation.

00:35:37.800 It was the most marvelous outfit I can now never wear.

00:35:40.160 But they did about $20 million worth of damage to Berkeley and the town.

00:35:44.300 My favorite moment, which none of the press covered for reasons that will be obvious

00:35:47.820 to you, is above the Wells Fargo cash point, the ATM that they ripped out the wall, there

00:35:53.360 was an anarchist sign on the wall with the words, Democrats, you're next, which nobody

00:35:59.380 remembers and nobody covered.

00:36:01.520 But the level of anarchist fury was quite remarkable.

00:36:08.060 It was interesting because that was a moment where I think people realized that, and this

00:36:12.960 whole non-Sydney Sweeney scandal that's happening right now is kind of adjacent, but there was

00:36:18.420 kind of this anger at the idea, the early MAGA movement, of white people having a place

00:36:24.200 in society because they got really used to kind of tailing between malaise, you should

00:36:27.380 feel angry and you should feel guilty for being white.

00:36:30.040 And you kind of got on stage and said, no, maybe we shouldn't feel guilty.

00:36:32.620 See, it's really interesting that Trump is in office and he is actually doing a lot to

00:36:38.840 effectively create, his administration, DEI policies, the one thing that we're supposed

00:36:43.320 to be going after, right, as MAGA saying this is actually not okay, but he's doing it for

00:36:48.220 Jews, okay?

00:36:49.160 Yes, it's true.

00:36:49.660 This recent situation is absurd, okay?

00:36:53.260 You go to school, sometimes you get into a fight.

00:36:55.840 And nobody expects the federal government to immediately get involved, okay?

00:37:01.340 But this is what happened.

00:37:02.760 Pam Bondi, within hours of a Jewish man, by the way, a Jewish man being shoved by a girl

00:37:09.560 at, I think it's Florida State University, that's correct.

00:37:12.280 How wounding.

00:37:13.000 They got into some sort of a tiff.

00:37:14.920 We don't know.

00:37:15.560 We know that he had his phone out, so we're not going to be able to see the full thing

00:37:18.040 of what started it.

00:37:19.020 He's wearing an IDF shirt.

00:37:20.660 She says something to him.

00:37:21.800 Not a provocation at all, by the way.

00:37:23.420 Right.

00:37:23.760 They're committing a genocide.

00:37:24.920 Maybe it's...

00:37:25.280 Four days previously, we have the headline that they're just gunning down civilians,

00:37:30.500 lining up for food.

00:37:32.160 Hunger Games.

00:37:33.300 Literally.

00:37:34.080 And whoever's fault that is, the soldiers, the people in charge, the sergeant, the government,

00:37:41.020 BB, whoever it is, they're doing it.

00:37:43.240 Right.

00:37:43.920 For you to go out in an IDF shirt, a bit much.

00:37:46.300 It's a bit much, I would say.

00:37:47.900 So somebody said something to him at the gym.

00:37:49.640 It was a woman who said something to a male student on campus at the gym.

00:37:54.120 They get into a tiff.

00:37:54.720 I'm going to show you the horror of what happened here.

00:37:56.980 Oh, no.

00:37:57.280 Everybody, cover your eyes.

00:37:59.920 Is it very graphic?

00:38:00.400 It's very graphic.

00:38:01.240 He's going to get brutalized.

00:38:03.460 Here's the clip that required a federal level response.

00:38:07.700 Take a look here.

00:38:08.340 From the Attorney General.

00:38:09.360 F*** Israel, free Palestine, put it on f***ing Barstool FSU.

00:38:12.820 I really don't give a f***.

00:38:14.160 You're an ignorant f***ing son of a b***h.

00:38:18.380 Oh, he did the LeBron James there.

00:38:20.560 Oh, still holding his phone.

00:38:22.860 This is the kind of vicious, deadly assault that, you know, has become all too common.

00:38:28.880 Please.

00:38:30.020 Then what happens is somehow Randy Fine, who's openly a genocidal maniac.

00:38:35.140 So actually, he's gone a bridge too far for AIPAC.

00:38:38.120 He's got just the morals you would think when you look at him, doesn't he?

00:38:40.480 He laughs when he sees Palestinians that are starving.

00:38:42.880 He somehow gets this clip and he alerts Harmeet Dillon.

00:38:48.320 All I know is that within a couple of hours, Pam Bondi, the Attorney General of the United States, issued a tweet.

00:38:55.020 And here is what she says.

00:38:56.340 She says, thank you, President McCullough, for your leadership and prompt action.

00:39:00.780 Antisemitism will not be tolerated in Florida or anywhere else.

00:39:04.240 And then she thanks civil rights.

00:39:06.120 She thanks attorneys.

00:39:07.100 She thanks Dillon.

00:39:09.260 And then she thanks the U.S. Attorney Jack Keegan.

00:39:12.220 They said they are all investigating this.

00:39:14.580 So we cannot get Jeffrey Epstein's binder.

00:39:17.380 We can't get a response for that.

00:39:18.480 It's taking a long time to figure out who the clients were.

00:39:20.460 One arrest.

00:39:21.360 One.

00:39:22.040 Not one arrest in any of the things that the president's voters care about.

00:39:26.420 But they had this girl doxed her full name on the Internet.

00:39:30.340 They had the police involved.

00:39:31.600 There's a whole ecosystem of lovely people who are out there ready to ruin your lives.

00:39:35.700 If you have the temerity to object to somebody wearing a shirt that bears the iconography of a foreign army murdering children.

00:39:46.260 Right.

00:39:46.440 That's what happened here.

00:39:47.640 And Pam Bondi got involved.

00:39:48.780 And we're supposed to think what?

00:39:50.100 They got involved because they were worried about discrimination.

00:39:52.760 Or they got involved because this entire administration only cares about Zionists.

00:39:57.840 And they're actually creating DEI policies for Jews.

00:40:00.520 It's not just that.

00:40:01.140 But it's the language too.

00:40:02.420 Thank you for your leadership.

00:40:04.020 This is the kind of thing you see in wartime.

00:40:05.980 It's the kind of thing.

00:40:07.020 When somebody issues a proclamation that declares the freedom of the whatever.

00:40:11.680 No.

00:40:12.260 Just relax.

00:40:13.320 You've been.

00:40:14.240 The level of absurdity gives me hope in a way.

00:40:18.840 Because, as you know, most people under 40 and everyone under 30 thinks this is insane.

00:40:27.340 It's insane.

00:40:28.160 Insane.

00:40:28.940 Could the university not handle that little shove?

00:40:30.880 Did the kid even need to report it to Randy Vine?

00:40:34.400 Did he need to upload it?

00:40:35.720 Did he survive something?

00:40:37.140 I'm sorry.

00:40:37.540 Kids are being murdered while they're trying to get food in Gaza.

00:40:40.120 He's this deviver.

00:40:40.620 But this guy.

00:40:41.440 No, that's when the federal government.

00:40:42.520 That is when the federal government really speaks up to true violence.

00:40:45.340 A boy getting shoved in a college campus.

00:40:47.160 And thanks the relevant adults for their leadership.

00:40:48.840 Thank you.

00:40:49.660 Thank you for the leadership.

00:40:50.700 This is disgraceful, disreputable, despicable.

00:40:54.600 It is a shame that, for once, the young people in this country have more of a moral compass than the old,

00:41:01.260 which is not true of every electorate all the time.

00:41:03.860 Really true.

00:41:04.860 I mean, maybe it's more true than we like to admit as conservatives.

00:41:07.460 Perhaps it is.

00:41:08.700 But your time is running out, you people.

00:41:13.660 You know, you're on borrowed time as it is.

00:41:15.680 Randy Fine is an artifact of years gone by when you could speak about, because they're Muslims,

00:41:25.220 and because, and some of your viewers may not like this, I'm sorry,

00:41:28.680 but because pretty much every American president has proven their toughness credentials by murdering a few of them.

00:41:33.560 I mean, a few million.

00:41:35.220 You know, pretty much every American president comes into office,

00:41:38.620 wants to let people know they're serious, kills a few million Muslims,

00:41:41.480 over and over and over again.

00:41:45.460 Is it any wonder that some of them have the opinions about America that they do?

00:41:48.720 But why are they chanting death to America?

00:41:50.600 Because we're killing them?

00:41:52.160 We're responsible for death with our weapons and our funding?

00:41:55.180 Because for decades, we've been murdering them like it's nothing.

00:41:59.540 And treating them like subhumans.

00:42:04.180 It's like people who don't have, and frankly, I'm sorry, Muslims and Jews, both people of the book,

00:42:11.980 if we have a relationship as Christians with any other faith, we have it as much with Muslims as we do with Jews.

00:42:18.300 And, you know, frankly, some of their morality and some of their prescriptions about daily life

00:42:26.220 have a lot more in common with a traditional Catholic than any Jewish teaching I've ever heard.

00:42:32.900 And yet we treat these people as though they are animals in foreign countries to be exterminated

00:42:38.120 when it suits us financially or in any other way.

00:42:42.040 And to then protect a foreign country, not ours, and its logos and its supporters

00:42:49.300 from reasonable outraged responses by, you know, fellow students in this case

00:42:54.800 with the language, the elevated language of statehood.

00:42:58.660 Thank you for your leadership.

00:43:00.200 It's disgusting, but I can't help but think they got 10 years of this left and then it's over.

00:43:05.860 I think it's less than 10 years.

00:43:07.260 Hopefully.

00:43:07.680 I actually think that's why they're speeding everything up right now,

00:43:09.660 because they realize, they recognize that nobody's falling for this anymore.

00:43:12.340 The absurdity is ramping up.

00:43:12.740 I mean, another thing that Trump did that was fraudulent was pretending that he was going to,

00:43:15.700 you know, first order a business.

00:43:17.060 I'm going to rescue TikTok.

00:43:17.940 TikTok, and I knew instantly, TikTok, apparently Gen Z and beneath had a moral compass about

00:43:25.180 Palestine and they said, we've got to get it under control.

00:43:27.740 And then Trump goes, oh, I'm going, nobody, don't abandon TikTok.

00:43:31.240 I'm going to rescue TikTok.

00:43:32.380 We're not going to get rid of TikTok.

00:43:33.260 And he didn't mean from the sex, did he?

00:43:35.060 He did not.

00:43:35.520 He didn't mean from the degeneracy.

00:43:37.000 He did not.

00:43:37.580 He didn't mean from the anti-Americanism.

00:43:39.360 He didn't mean from the Chinese propaganda.

00:43:41.700 He meant from people telling the truth about the Middle East.

00:43:44.160 That's what he meant.

00:43:44.640 And so this is who they have now installed.

00:43:47.300 Let's take a listen to this hero.

00:43:49.040 She will be in charge of hate speech at TikTok.

00:43:52.360 Take a listen.

00:43:52.720 Oh, we're back to the good old days.

00:43:53.800 Yeah.

00:43:53.980 After my sophomore year, like many of my friends, I had a summer internship, a Goldman fellowship

00:44:00.880 at AJC.

00:44:02.400 I came to work each morning as Israel engaged in one of the larger military operations of

00:44:07.220 my lifetime, Suketan, Operation Protective Edge.

00:44:10.900 There we go.

00:44:11.680 That summer, I realized how impactful my Jewish upbringing and education was.

00:44:16.160 I simultaneously realized how passionate my own Zionist identity had become.

00:44:21.480 She's crazy with the well-being of Jews worldwide and the security of Israel would be issues

00:44:26.240 of lifelong importance to me.

00:44:28.180 Has she mentioned America yet?

00:44:29.340 I grew up in a traditional Jewish household.

00:44:31.900 It's just amazing.

00:44:32.840 But in an untraditional decision, after graduating from Michigan, I made Aliyah and enlisted in

00:44:38.420 the Israel Defense Forces.

00:44:40.360 I spent the next two years serving as an Ashikot Chirion, an instructor in the Army Corps.

00:44:46.020 To many, this might seem like a contradiction.

00:44:48.220 For a woman who identifies as liberal and progressive to be a Zionist so committed as to join the IDF,

00:44:55.760 for me, these two identities go hand in hand.

00:45:00.520 Intersectionality.

00:45:01.340 What do you think about her leading moderation policies at TikTok?

00:45:06.820 What did we put Donald Trump in office for if we are back for the bad old days of 2014-15?

00:45:12.760 Next, she's going to be telling us about the wage gap.

00:45:14.440 She's going to be telling us about campus rape culture.

00:45:20.900 It seems you can get away with any degree, any kind of skullduggery.

00:45:28.040 You can get away with any sort of wickedness if you will only call yourself or have yourself

00:45:33.400 identified as a Zionist.

00:45:34.660 You can do anything, be anything, say anything.

00:45:38.560 If only you will spend a year in the IDF.

00:45:40.920 Well, I'm sorry, but that kind of hypocrisy, that kind of shallow and outrageous and disgusting

00:45:47.900 sort of papering over of wickedness is a thing, I hope, of the past.

00:45:52.600 We've fought those battles and we thought we had won them, but we are going to because

00:45:56.300 just look, if you're watching this disheartened, and I understand why you might be,

00:46:01.080 um, just cast your eye over the, uh, um, social attitude studies that are pouring out year

00:46:07.960 after year, showing the most colossal swing away from, uh, support for the, what is now

00:46:14.920 a rogue and wicked state of Israel.

00:46:17.160 Um, uh, the problem is, is that they're murderous.

00:46:19.200 So I think about that and I'm like, this is great.

00:46:20.860 Like the public sentiment is shifting and we wonder, we, we understand what's wrong with

00:46:23.760 Israel, but then what happens?

00:46:25.520 They're just going to come, they're going to start brutalizing Americans.

00:46:27.300 I mean, they've showed, they don't care.

00:46:28.400 They'll kill a baby.

00:46:29.020 They don't care.

00:46:29.620 They will literally kill a baby and say, there was a tunnel underneath its crib.

00:46:32.040 I have no doubt that the end of the state of Israel, which must come, um, will be accompanied

00:46:37.960 by, uh, great horrors.

00:46:40.080 But this is a state that is no longer any good, even for Jews, because I'm watching her and

00:46:48.700 I'm looking at, you know, the, the expressions of our own politicians and I'm feeling more

00:46:54.140 antisemitic.

00:46:55.100 You know, my whole life has been a war against antisemitism, my own.

00:46:59.020 Um, you know, like trying, trying not to, I'm trying not to hate people, but everything

00:47:03.520 in my body is making me go, you know, uh, and I'm losing that fight people, but I'm losing

00:47:09.020 it.

00:47:09.200 Well, it's hard not to have a humane response to watching children being born up every day

00:47:13.500 and then to have people like the Barry Weiss's of the world trying to tell you that it's

00:47:18.300 not happening.

00:47:18.940 You get so angry.

00:47:20.460 You get so angry with the lies and why are you allowed to lie?

00:47:24.400 Why are you allowed to gaslight?

00:47:25.900 Why are you allowed to pretend that what's happening is okay and, and, and not be, by the

00:47:30.700 way, effectively chased out of society.

00:47:32.100 Instead, she's being awarded.

00:47:33.320 We have a phrase for this righteous indignation and it is, it is that feeling that you have

00:47:37.280 when your compassion is ignited or your sense of injustice is ignited and then fuel is added

00:47:43.000 to the fire by somebody telling you that you're crazy or, or that, um, actually the good guys,

00:47:48.020 the bad guys, the bad guys, the good guys.

00:47:49.260 Yes, that's what they're doing.

00:47:49.880 And, and, and that's exactly what's happening and, um, you know, it's, it's, I can't help but feel

00:47:56.520 as a natural optimist that the absurdity, the heightened, uh, uh, ludicrousness of all of this

00:48:04.440 must surely portend the end, at least in America, of the support for this stuff.

00:48:09.360 And within a decade, it's going to become awkward, if not impossible for a politician to say they

00:48:14.040 support Israel.

00:48:14.640 It will happen very fast when it happens.

00:48:16.280 It happens little by little and then all at once.

00:48:17.960 Um, when we look at Israel, uh, I think I fixed the problem, by the way, the Middle East,

00:48:24.140 I think I've solved it.

00:48:25.260 Um, so, uh, the creation of state of Israel is a colonial error.

00:48:28.640 It's a colonial mistake.

00:48:29.700 Uh, they should have given them Vermont, you know, uh, but, uh, it's, you know, but, uh,

00:48:33.260 Britain and America create this state and they create an intractable problem that can only

00:48:37.420 be, uh, resolved by the death of everyone.

00:48:40.920 You know, uh, it, it can't, it can't go on.

00:48:43.220 I think a colonial problem has a colonial solution.

00:48:45.560 And the only way really to deal with this is the one thing nobody wants to do, send in

00:48:49.100 troops, not necessarily Americans.

00:48:50.560 I think probably Britain should bear the brunt of this.

00:48:52.740 This is Britain's original sin.

00:48:54.780 Um, I think that, uh, the state has failed, uh, that Israel is no longer, um, uh, a going

00:49:01.700 concern as a, as a, as a state in, in 2025, uh, both sides, the Israelis and Palestinians have

00:49:08.220 demonstrated they're not capable of self-government, uh, government.

00:49:10.500 I think, uh, Britain needs to, um, take over the, uh, sovereignty, uh, autonomous rule, uh,

00:49:17.640 of, of that area.

00:49:19.420 And I think the British army needs to maintain the peace there and turn it into something

00:49:23.420 like a giant UNESCO site where anybody of any faith can come visit wherever they want

00:49:26.800 to go.

00:49:27.240 Uh, and the whole thing, the, you know, the, the, the, the Holy Land and Christianity,

00:49:30.240 which by rights, the whole region is, is probably Orthodox Christian anyway.

00:49:33.600 Um, but anybody of any faith can go anywhere and the British army is there to guarantee

00:49:37.580 the peace.

00:49:38.180 And, and, and hopefully in that way, uh, people will not feel, um, uh, hopefully that will

00:49:45.080 reduce the horrors that are surely to come, uh, from both sides.

00:49:49.380 If, if an external major power backed by all the others, uh, is once again running the

00:49:55.780 region, it seems to me to be the only solution.

00:49:58.120 Uh, basically you move every, move pretty much everybody out and turn the whole thing into

00:50:01.420 a giant museum because the creation of the state in the first place seems to me to be,

00:50:07.380 uh, uh, a riddle with no solution.

00:50:11.640 It's a puzzle with no answer.

00:50:13.820 Uh, and the only way to address it is to undo the mistake that was made in the first place.

00:50:18.760 Yeah, but then where are those Israelis going to go?

00:50:21.080 Because I personally, like people that turn the other cheek when they're like murdering

00:50:23.720 children, it's not, I, I wouldn't want them as a neighbor.

00:50:25.620 Like personal, I'm just saying, and again, I want to be clear, it's not all Israelis.

00:50:29.180 Like obviously they're, they're, they're, the Harats has been every day hitting at, uh,

00:50:33.180 all of the lies and obviously they, they want Netanyahu, but too many of them are okay with

00:50:38.260 what's happening.

00:50:38.800 Too many of them are okay with what's happening in Gaza.

00:50:40.380 I think the majority of them are okay with what's happening in Gaza.

00:50:42.620 That's terrifying.

00:50:43.360 I don't want that person as a neighbor, any person.

00:50:45.320 I don't even want the Americans that are supporting us as neighbors.

00:50:47.860 I'm basically going, okay, where should we send these people?

00:50:50.680 They can't be here.

00:50:51.440 You can't be here.

00:50:52.040 If this is your guiding philosophy in life, that it's totally acceptable to mass murder children

00:50:57.020 and to shoot them and to look the other way when they're trying to get food, to, to block

00:51:01.700 aid, to allow a starvation campaign to get what you want.

00:51:05.660 You know, you need to leave America, by the way.

00:51:07.720 So that's where I'm at.

00:51:09.160 Yes, I think, I think it's fair, but it's also, it's, it's quite a large area of territory

00:51:12.660 that's under, under dispute here.

00:51:14.120 It's, it's a big place.

00:51:15.240 And I think space can be found for everybody.

00:51:17.520 And it's not like Israelis haven't had to move before.

00:51:19.240 Um, they had to move when they, uh, left Gaza a while back, you know, that now they're

00:51:22.900 now saying it was a mistake.

00:51:24.100 Uh, I'm not saying, you know, I'm not suggesting everybody needs to move, uh, from where they

00:51:28.520 are currently, but if there were an external power who were back running the place, whose

00:51:34.000 responsibility it was to keep the peace and who made it very clearly understood that the

00:51:40.600 slightest, uh, you know, active violence toward Brits or anybody else would be met with,

00:51:45.560 uh, uh, brutal and deadly force.

00:51:48.400 But the issue is that even though they aren't the most powerful state, I mean, they're not

00:51:52.100 the biggest state, but they are the most powerful state is what I would say.

00:51:54.340 Israel is, it's because they have ran the most sophisticated blackmail campaign.

00:51:57.820 I mean, they have blackmailed.

00:51:59.160 I am shocked.

00:51:59.740 Even when I'm going into stories like about Emmanuel Macron, there's randomly an interjection

00:52:04.160 of Israeli blackmail that they have.

00:52:06.180 Honestly, for people who can control the weather, they're not very good at PR.

00:52:09.000 Uh, I don't know how, I don't know how good really the, the Israelis, uh, or the Jews

00:52:15.900 who care about this stuff have been at any of this.

00:52:18.420 They can temporarily intimidate somebody into saying something that, that that person does

00:52:23.040 not believe for an easy life or financial advantage or political advantage, but it doesn't

00:52:27.060 persuade them.

00:52:27.860 It doesn't make them believe that it just, it just means that they know what they ought

00:52:31.760 to say if they don't want any trouble or they know what they have to say if they want

00:52:34.780 certain advantage.

00:52:35.640 It doesn't actually persuade anybody.

00:52:37.280 Uh, I think that the battle that really matters for Israel is not one happening in Gaza, but

00:52:45.440 it is in the, um, hearts and minds, as they say, of people all over the West.

00:52:49.960 And that battle has been comprehensively and forever lost.

00:52:53.180 That's true.

00:52:53.620 That is very true.

00:52:54.220 It's over.

00:52:54.420 It's done.

00:52:55.360 Um, you will never persuade the coming four generations of, of, of Europeans and Americans

00:53:01.600 that Israel is anything but a rogue, murderous, reckless and wretched place.

00:53:07.780 Uh, it's done.

00:53:08.820 It's over.

00:53:09.320 You're lost.

00:53:10.060 It doesn't matter if Mike's going over there and praying on the wall anymore.

00:53:12.420 We're like, what are you doing?

00:53:13.420 In fact, if anything, the more of our politicians we see over there, the more we hate the whole

00:53:16.780 lot of you.

00:53:17.220 It's going to be a litmus test.

00:53:18.020 It's going to be literally, we are not going to elect any politicians that support this

00:53:21.160 nation.

00:53:21.500 I believe that.

00:53:21.920 I think it's going to become a liability and then it will become impossible to admit, uh,

00:53:25.840 for politicians, at least in public.

00:53:27.300 And, and, and under those circumstances, you know, if you have to, if you have to be

00:53:29.600 sort of crypto Zionist at that point where you can't say it or vote for it, if you have

00:53:36.480 to be, if you can't say it or vote for it, then what does it matter?

00:53:39.120 Uh, so, you know, um, uh, but, but it's, it's done.

00:53:41.920 It's done.

00:53:42.340 It's over.

00:53:42.700 You're lost.

00:53:43.300 You lost the war for the West's good, uh, for the West's good opinion.

00:53:47.840 And you did it as victims of the Holocaust.

00:53:50.600 How did you screw that up?

00:53:52.020 Well, they, they used that campaign and they seated us.

00:53:54.960 How did you mess that up?

00:53:55.760 Because of that, actually, it's quite, it's,

00:53:57.300 it's ironic.

00:53:58.100 They did so much in terms of Hollywood producing so many Holocaust movies and made sure it

00:54:02.640 was in our textbooks.

00:54:03.260 It's a part of growing up in America and learn about the Holocaust.

00:54:05.360 And I think that they thought that that would extend to them the ability to execute this

00:54:09.680 in broad daylight.

00:54:10.280 People go, oh, well, it's the Jews, but the opposite thing happened.

00:54:12.820 People said that's a Holocaust happening right there.

00:54:14.980 And you guys are the ones that are executing it.

00:54:16.780 We actually knew when we saw a Holocaust happening, we knew because you had so ingrained in us,

00:54:22.240 the liturgy of the Holocaust.

00:54:23.440 So it kind of backfired on them in this way that it's, it's almost like a poetic justice

00:54:27.840 in a way where it's like, okay.

00:54:28.860 By providing that anatomy of evil, we knew it when we saw it.

00:54:31.400 We knew it when we saw it.

00:54:32.200 Yeah.

00:54:32.480 So you can't, you can't trick us.

00:54:33.720 I think it's true.

00:54:34.080 I think it's true.

00:54:34.500 I've seen the movies.

00:54:35.200 I know what this is.

00:54:36.180 You are the thing.

00:54:37.680 And, and you know what's, and you know what's incredible about it?

00:54:39.480 When you talk about the movies and evil in the movies, um, like most people, when I

00:54:44.700 started my career on the right politically, I kind of reflexively went along with the Zionist

00:54:49.120 thing.

00:54:49.320 I mean, uh, because I couldn't really care too much and it just seemed like a cost of

00:54:53.680 doing business.

00:54:54.200 Didn't really care.

00:54:55.140 Wasn't really paying attention.

00:54:56.340 And that's on me.

00:54:57.460 Me as well.

00:54:58.160 I totally, I was working for PragerU.

00:54:59.880 I had no idea.

00:55:00.900 That was on me.

00:55:01.520 It didn't seem like a big issue.

00:55:02.700 You know, I was like, I'm BLM's burning stuff down.

00:55:04.720 I don't really care about Israel.

00:55:06.020 But one day I did start paying attention.

00:55:07.860 And when I did, my opinion changed dramatically.

00:55:10.220 Uh, and I started to notice something, which is, you know, maybe, uh, our, our friends,

00:55:16.480 uh, uh, uh, you know, followers of Muhammad, they, maybe, maybe, maybe a little hot under

00:55:20.140 the collar sometimes.

00:55:20.840 Maybe they get a little, uh, um, uh, you know, a little, a little, uh, um, uh, over emotional

00:55:27.240 sometimes, and maybe they, um, commit acts that, that are, are, are impossible for me

00:55:34.340 to wrap my head around the suicide bombings and, and things like that.

00:55:37.560 And maybe some of it is motivated by religion.

00:55:39.580 A lot of it's politics and, you know, uh, but one thing I've never seen from, uh, a

00:55:45.960 former, um, even, even people who were in terrorist organizations, one thing I've never

00:55:51.720 seen from any Muslim freedom fighter or, or former, you know, jihadist or whatever is

00:55:57.820 the, is the glint in the eye, the sparkle in the eye and the smile that just creeps across

00:56:03.160 the side of the face when an IDF soldier recalls the carnage that they caused and the lives

00:56:11.700 that they took, uh, decades previously.

00:56:14.380 And they're still attached to that memory in a way that gives them not just joy, but a

00:56:19.960 kind of vicarious, delicious pleasure.

00:56:21.580 And that level of cartoonish movie villain sociopathy, you don't see it on the other

00:56:30.720 side of that conflict.

00:56:31.680 You don't really see it anywhere.

00:56:33.400 I've never seen it before until, until this conflict.

00:56:34.960 I never saw it until I started watching, um, closely.

00:56:38.540 So I started paying attention and you get those videos of the, of the IDF guys who

00:56:43.980 were in their sixties and they're talking about the stuff they did.

00:56:48.120 I've never been so frightened.

00:56:49.600 It's scary.

00:56:50.220 That's what I'm saying.

00:56:50.800 It's like, it's like, I don't want these, I don't want these people living with me.

00:56:53.100 I don't want to live near them.

00:56:53.860 I don't want, it's like, whatever that is.

00:56:55.400 Maybe we shouldn't have given them Ramon.

00:56:56.100 That's why I say it goes back to like, when you learn about what the Bolsheviks did and

00:57:00.140 what happened thereafter and the mass murder of Christians, it gives Henrik Yagoda.

00:57:03.560 And like, we do know that Israel protected a lot of the Bolsheviks.

00:57:07.160 They did.

00:57:07.740 It's just a fact.

00:57:08.540 And so, yeah.

00:57:09.940 And they do that now.

00:57:10.800 They, they welcome these people in and say, Oh, we'll protect you.

00:57:13.100 If you say that you're Jewish, you're allowed to commit these acts.

00:57:15.020 So eventually you're going to have this culture of psychopaths, right?

00:57:18.940 And the people that seem to be what it's fostering a culture of psychopaths and they need to,

00:57:23.780 by the way, if you know that your end goal, you're Bibi Netanyahu, and you know that your

00:57:26.660 end goal is that you're just going to commit a mass genocide.

00:57:29.600 You want to make sure that you are fostering a culture of psychopaths because a normal person

00:57:34.020 is going to be outraged at seeing children, no matter what you say about these

00:57:37.360 children, no matter how many tunnels you pretend are under each one of them, a normal humane

00:57:41.120 response is going to be, this is unacceptable.

00:57:42.520 Taking out this trauma from Hitler that may not even have affected you at all, let alone

00:57:48.020 personally, and visiting it on penniless brown children and out in the sand, you know, is

00:57:57.320 unspeakable.

00:57:57.920 And it does feel like maybe it's what's happening.

00:58:01.720 And it's the glee.

00:58:04.320 It's the, it's the, they get off on it.

00:58:07.400 I really do.

00:58:08.000 And I'm so, I'm sorry to say that because it sounds like a terrible thing, but, um, I've

00:58:12.560 never, I don't see it in the videos of, um, Third Reich soldiers.

00:58:17.580 I don't see it in the, uh, testimony at Nuremberg.

00:58:20.800 I don't see it in any body I've ever seen from any army or anyone has had to take life.

00:58:26.000 I mean, you and I have both had a lot of private security in our lives.

00:58:28.520 Uh, whether we've had Navy SEALs or we've had whatever, I don't, when, when they talk

00:58:32.100 about lives they've taken, they go real quiet.

00:58:34.360 Those guys, you know, uh, people have been out and done like 18 tours in Iraq or whatever.

00:58:37.660 They go real quiet when they have to talk about that stuff.

00:58:39.800 I've never seen anything like it outside of the movies.

00:58:43.820 I think about what it would be like if you're, you had to wake up every day and just murder

00:58:46.720 children.

00:58:47.200 Even when I think about the settlers who take the land, they are climbing over the skulls

00:58:51.000 of children and babies and women.

00:58:52.900 They're seeing them rotting.

00:58:53.880 Their corpse is rotting.

00:58:54.720 Your pool is built, you know, yeah.

00:58:55.860 And there's, and you're going to build a pool there.

00:58:57.840 Like, is that really what, is Jared Kushner going to do that?

00:58:59.420 Is he invested there?

00:59:00.200 Is that what Jared and Bunker, is the Trump legacy going to be Gaza?

00:59:03.380 Because my goodness, you're going to have to, you're going to have to change your last

00:59:06.160 names because everyone, and I, I totally plan on shaming any person that even goes to visit

00:59:10.200 that territory in the future.

00:59:11.100 But I want to ask you, Trump, Epstein files, he's obviously in them.

00:59:15.280 We've determined that he's in them in some capacity.

00:59:17.300 That was the reason for the gaslighting.

00:59:18.740 Apparently they had this meeting.

00:59:20.160 Trump did not deny this.

00:59:21.280 And Pam Bondi said, you're in the files.

00:59:22.940 It's been a complicated relationship, right?

00:59:24.060 Because we know that Epstein was afraid of Trump and thought that Trump was going to

00:59:27.720 cause a lot of problems for him.

00:59:29.100 And some people say that's because Trump is, you know, of course he is now as a president,

00:59:32.640 but you know, he was maybe, was helping the authorities with Epstein.

00:59:35.980 So it's been complicated, hasn't it, with them?

00:59:37.180 Yeah, it's been complicated, but it is interesting that Trump knew, didn't know,

00:59:41.460 allegedly until May, that he was in the files.

00:59:44.900 He knew, obviously, that he had been on the planes.

00:59:46.520 I mean, you knew you were there, so you knew you'd be in the files.

00:59:48.420 Right.

00:59:48.880 Well, he wasn't on the island.

00:59:50.980 But what do you, what do you think?

00:59:52.680 There are people that are watching this and they say,

00:59:54.200 Cass, you're so stupid.

00:59:54.920 Like, obviously Trump's been involved in stuff that's no good.

00:59:57.200 I actually, truly do not believe that Trump is into children, which some people have alleged.

01:00:05.240 No, no.

01:00:05.540 What do you think it is that he's hiding, though?

01:00:07.700 Because he's very, he suddenly doesn't want people talking about the files.

01:00:10.400 So what is that about?

01:00:11.260 Evidently, the operation around Epstein is protecting the same people who are currently shilling for Israel in the Middle East

01:00:26.200 and who have done so much to destroy and impoverish and weaken and cripple and corrupt this country.

01:00:32.980 So, you know, we need to know, we need to see the files because we have to know that we were right.

01:00:41.320 We have to know that we tore up the norms of politics to elect somebody wacky.

01:00:49.540 We loved him, but he's wacky.

01:00:53.080 And took that huge risk and will be punished for it.

01:00:58.260 I mean, you can't imagine what's going to happen next time Democrats get in.

01:01:00.100 But we have to know that we did it and that we were right.

01:01:03.820 We have to know that there really were people doing this stuff.

01:01:08.200 And everything that you see suggests that that's the case.

01:01:13.020 The Diddy trial, for instance, was clearly about getting the tapes that incriminated powerful Democrats.

01:01:17.500 And after they had those tapes, James Comey's daughter, the prosecutor, Maureen,

01:01:22.100 they lost interest in whether Diddy was even guilty or not.

01:01:25.180 The prosecution themselves asked for the judge to take charges off.

01:01:30.100 Immediately before the jury goes to deliberate, because they know they didn't even get close to proving that stuff.

01:01:34.800 And so he gets convicted of a couple of the minor charges, you know.

01:01:38.060 I mean, the guy might well be a real piece of work.

01:01:41.120 And most people assume in the business that he is.

01:01:44.240 If so, why didn't the government prove it?

01:01:46.540 Because the Department of Justice had no interest in finding out whether or not he was raping and drugging people.

01:01:53.540 All they wanted was the tapes so that the powerful people on them weren't in any danger.

01:01:58.960 I actually, yeah, they wanted the tapes that apparently he had tapes that they didn't know about.

01:02:02.700 But he was a total operation.

01:02:03.860 I think Connie told the truth about that.

01:02:05.320 I think so, too.

01:02:06.200 Yeah.

01:02:06.560 I think probably the full extent of it.

01:02:08.040 Yeah.

01:02:08.940 But, you know, these ops do go rogue.

01:02:12.220 And if he had tapes that they didn't know, whatever.

01:02:14.320 He had extra tapes that they didn't know about and they wanted to get their hands on them.

01:02:16.860 Right.

01:02:17.180 So they go and get them back.

01:02:18.460 And then they kind of, you know, phone in the rest of the trial, which is maybe their thank you for being such a good operative, you know, phoning in the rest of the trial.

01:02:25.120 And, you know, frankly, the job that the Justice Department did, he should probably get a pardon.

01:02:30.440 Because he did get justice.

01:02:32.100 He did not get a fair trial.

01:02:33.060 Anyway, point being, he, that whole spectacle, that whole embarrassing collapse of justice there.

01:02:42.020 Another example of how, even now, these actors can put their finger on the scale and make things happen when they need to.

01:02:51.320 Why is Trump doing this?

01:02:52.560 What they got on him?

01:02:55.140 First of all, I think you're right about Miriam Adelson.

01:02:57.960 I think it was the cost of being president again.

01:03:01.080 It's when the call comes and the bill falls due.

01:03:05.100 It's what you got to do.

01:03:07.040 Irrespective of the public opinion.

01:03:10.160 And, you know, he's not running for president again.

01:03:11.860 Why does he care now, you know?

01:03:13.420 They'll get over it, you know?

01:03:14.420 People will be cool in a couple of years.

01:03:15.800 And maybe we even will fall back in love with him for some other reason.

01:03:19.120 It's not impossible.

01:03:20.300 I don't know.

01:03:21.000 He would have to just be like, I'm canceling federal taxes.

01:03:23.960 Federal income tax, but that's exactly...

01:03:25.360 And I think I'd still be angry about the Epstein thing.

01:03:27.040 We'd still be angry.

01:03:27.820 But if he did cancel federal income tax...

01:03:29.640 I'd be like, ooh, almost going back.

01:03:32.980 No, give us the Epstein files.

01:03:34.140 But like, we...

01:03:34.860 He's got some levers left to pull.

01:03:36.520 He's going to have to cancel...

01:03:38.260 He's got some levers left that he can pull that might just...

01:03:40.940 It's the only one I could think of off the top of my head.

01:03:42.680 I'd be like, maybe...

01:03:44.800 Maybe if he really did lock her up.

01:03:46.320 Maybe if he...

01:03:46.900 No, but I don't even care about it anymore.

01:03:48.120 No, no, no.

01:03:48.620 Because they're corrupt both sides now.

01:03:49.880 It's just everybody can go to prison.

01:03:51.360 I genuinely don't care.

01:03:52.520 He was right, by the way.

01:03:53.180 Lock up Hillary Clinton when like Netanyahu, you're like dapping up Netanyahu, doesn't really

01:03:56.840 do anything for me anymore.

01:03:57.500 No, nobody cares.

01:03:58.260 I don't care.

01:03:58.620 And I think he was right, actually, when he said to Rogan that it wouldn't have been

01:04:01.260 the right thing for the country.

01:04:02.040 I think that's right.

01:04:04.420 No, look, we have to face the awful truth that Trump might be great on a bunch of different

01:04:12.020 subjects, but he is bought, paid for, owned and operated on this one.

01:04:17.300 And sometimes...

01:04:17.980 And this one, now and again, when you've got 100 million you can donate to a presidential

01:04:21.520 candidate, this one can trump all others.

01:04:23.240 Right.

01:04:23.520 And so it is, I think, a matter for the electorate to simply refuse to nominate and elect people

01:04:33.340 with these views, because to give Trump his due and his credit, he didn't lie to us.

01:04:38.380 He didn't tell us he was going to do something else.

01:04:40.480 He did not promise or suggest that he was some kind of Palestinian rights activist.

01:04:45.900 He said he was going to look after Israel, and he did.

01:04:48.620 And maybe we didn't want to know what that would look like at the time.

01:04:50.980 And maybe we didn't want to think about how that would be.

01:04:54.060 And we couldn't have anticipated what Israel was planning then, what they were up to.

01:04:58.860 But he did tell us.

01:05:00.180 And so maybe the job now is to simply make it politically impossible to run for president

01:05:08.820 or run for Congress and be an unreconstructed Zionist.

01:05:13.100 Right.

01:05:14.040 Only we can do that, because they're not going to do it for themselves.

01:05:16.860 Well, I don't know what timeline we're in right now, but Hunter Biden is making more

01:05:20.980 sense.

01:05:22.280 Hunter Biden is apparently telling us the truth about Jeffrey Epstein while Pam Bondi

01:05:26.420 and Donald Trump are lying.

01:05:27.600 Hunter Biden is...

01:05:28.260 The second piece of his sit down with a podcaster, I'm blanking on his name right now, Andrew

01:05:34.580 Callahan is his name.

01:05:35.860 From Channel 5, I think.

01:05:36.520 From Channel 5.

01:05:37.620 Here is Hunter Biden discussing Jeffrey Epstein and whether or not he killed himself.

01:05:43.500 Take a listen.

01:05:43.960 You know, do you think it was like a suicide?

01:05:47.760 Mm-mm.

01:05:48.820 Epstein?

01:05:49.560 Mm-mm.

01:05:50.720 It's good.

01:05:51.700 Mm-mm.

01:05:52.520 Nobody does.

01:05:53.880 I mean, really, except for all of a sudden, Cash Patel and Dan Bongino.

01:05:59.320 Nobody thinks it was.

01:06:00.500 You know, it's a name to cite.

01:06:02.160 You have that renowned doctor, a coroner, that did the...

01:06:07.920 What's it called?

01:06:08.760 A post-mortem autopsy.

01:06:10.220 Yeah, the post-mortem autopsy.

01:06:12.220 I don't know if that's what it's called.

01:06:13.100 And he talks about all the different, you know, the different fractures in his neck

01:06:16.980 and how it was impossible that he could have done that.

01:06:19.080 You can't commit suicide.

01:06:20.400 He does.

01:06:21.720 What?

01:06:22.340 You can't commit suicide.

01:06:23.460 He, exactly.

01:06:24.600 You can't strike yourself to death, even if you hate life.

01:06:27.000 Yes, exactly.

01:06:27.900 And that literally is an impossibility and a fiction.

01:06:31.680 And there's this idea that what he did is like he leaned forward.

01:06:34.740 Well, none of it matches up.

01:06:36.480 There's that guy that just testified that, not testified, he was interviewed that was in the cell next to Jeffrey Epstein's.

01:06:42.900 And he said it's just absolutely impossible that he would have been able to do that.

01:06:46.440 Now you have the tape that comes out.

01:06:48.180 And it's not just one minute missing from the tape.

01:06:50.360 It's actually three minutes from the tape has been over.

01:06:52.780 Why do we have to hear him saying that's the most secure facility in the country?

01:06:56.260 Well, that is just, yeah, I mean, and just, and just that alone, you have someone that everyone absolutely knows that if anything happens to him, is going to be, you're going to be accused of a gigantic cover-up.

01:07:12.600 And he, he dies.

01:07:14.620 And the guy that is his co-conspirator in France, what's his name?

01:07:18.000 He just happens to, you know, commit suicide or, you know, die in mysterious ways in prison.

01:07:22.760 And, you know, the woman who's living in Australia, you know, she commits suicide just before that.

01:07:28.500 I mean, like, I, look, again, I'm, now I'm feeding into the conspiracy, but clearly, I mean, who believes that he can do himself?

01:07:40.860 I have to say something.

01:07:42.020 What's going on?

01:07:42.980 Well, I mean, he, he, he knows where off he speaks because he comes from a Democrat dynasty.

01:07:48.460 And if anybody knows about, um, uh, murdering your way to the top, uh, it is, it is, uh, the Democrat power families.

01:07:54.880 Exactly.

01:07:55.480 Two or three little policy adjustments.

01:07:59.740 And he sounds remarkably like us.

01:08:02.040 And I, I, I have to say, uh, is Hunter Biden the true heir to MAGA?

01:08:07.140 Maybe, maybe.

01:08:10.100 Hunter Biden, the unexpected heir to MAGA.

01:08:13.240 Listen, if he keeps talking like that and he makes just a couple little adjustments, I vote for him.

01:08:16.960 I mean, I'm watching this interview.

01:08:19.160 I've, I've watched the other one.

01:08:20.100 I'm like, this is, he obviously doesn't care about anything anymore.

01:08:22.880 He is dropping F-bombs, going after George Clooney, going after his own side.

01:08:27.300 Yeah.

01:08:27.460 He lies about his laptop and you can see he's uncomfortable.

01:08:30.020 The parts of it where he just like says things about his dad and you, you forgive him because you're like, he loves his dad.

01:08:34.180 Like, he's just like, my dad's great.

01:08:35.340 Nobody's ever mad.

01:08:36.260 Nobody's ever mad you for loving your dad.

01:08:37.680 Okay.

01:08:38.240 But it's just crazy that Hunter Biden is up there.

01:08:41.740 He knows their names, doesn't he?

01:08:42.360 He does.

01:08:42.620 He knows exactly, Cash and Dan Bongino, he knows exactly the names.

01:08:47.560 Dan Bongino.

01:08:48.460 But that's the other thing.

01:08:50.000 Okay.

01:08:50.180 You have a different opinion of Dan Bongino.

01:08:52.740 Most people, most people in MAGA land really like Dan Bongino.

01:08:55.640 I thought it rhymed with vagina for a very long time.

01:08:57.980 And in fact, once he got into office, I realized I was right.

01:09:00.460 But you think he's just acting.

01:09:02.440 And I think that he, look, years ago, in a random interview, he was asked by somebody, I forget who, what's the thing you care about most in the world?

01:09:12.460 And you think he's going to say his kids or he's going to say our Lord Jesus Christ or he's going to say the state of Israel.

01:09:18.060 Oh, he said the state of Israel.

01:09:20.160 Yeah.

01:09:20.500 It was years ago.

01:09:21.720 He's one of those.

01:09:22.660 He's always been one of those.

01:09:24.080 He's like a weak person's idea of what a tough guy looks like.

01:09:28.120 He's a mom blogger.

01:09:29.260 You know, he's a podcaster for Trump moms.

01:09:31.380 He's got a face that looks like a partially clenched dog's rear end.

01:09:36.200 You know, he's got, he's, he is weak, looks weak, sounds weak.

01:09:42.800 And since the moment he got into office, he has acted pretty weak, hasn't he?

01:09:48.360 Dan Bongino, try to go two days without looking like you can't cope with the job challenge.

01:09:53.380 Impossible.

01:09:54.180 Like, give me a break.

01:09:55.080 So you think it's all performative?

01:09:56.340 Not only is he bought and paid for, but he's also not up to the task that he has accepted.

01:10:03.240 It is a matter of morality and character.

01:10:09.360 When you're offered a job that you know you can't do, you should graciously and gratefully decline and maybe suggest something you'd like just as much.

01:10:18.260 But when he was asked, do you want to be deputy director of the FBI?

01:10:24.580 Come on.

01:10:25.480 They just care that he was pro-Israel.

01:10:26.780 He should have said no.

01:10:27.660 What about Kash Patel?

01:10:28.680 What's your take on that?

01:10:29.440 Because people, he was saying all the right stuff before he got into office.

01:10:32.760 People thought, you know, he's going to dismantle the deep state.

01:10:35.260 He's really going to do day one.

01:10:36.520 And it's a perfect example of some of the kind of person that I would never have trusted in a million years because he's always been a panderer.

01:10:44.660 When he was on those podcasts, he would push explanations just a little bit beyond the facts.

01:10:50.440 He would make statements that weren't quite supported by all the evidence.

01:10:54.800 Or he would constantly gesture toward things he'd seen but couldn't tell you about.

01:11:00.900 Or, you know, it was always pointing at something just out of reach and saying, well, if you'd seen what I've seen, you'd know I was right.

01:11:08.300 And from that, constructing, you know, and telling people exactly what they wanted to hear.

01:11:12.740 Is it any wonder he's doing it now?

01:11:14.280 He's in office.

01:11:15.860 He's just got a new audience now.

01:11:17.280 His audience now is the FBI.

01:11:19.500 So, no, I'm not surprised.

01:11:21.340 I think they're both disasters.

01:11:22.300 I think they're both foreseeable disasters.

01:11:25.600 Pam, Bonnie is obviously a lightweight who's hopelessly inadequate to the task of being attorney general.

01:11:33.500 The original excuse for why the Epstein files didn't come out when they were supposed to was that she wanted to do it as a surprise to the White House.

01:11:40.680 Until, presumably, she saw the president's name plastered through the files and realized she couldn't.

01:11:44.900 Amateur hour, amateur hour, amateur hour.

01:11:47.040 These three names are embarrassments.

01:11:49.460 And it's all, I don't mind Pete Hexer.

01:11:52.380 I think he's okay.

01:11:53.040 I can't stand some of the pocket squares and whatever.

01:11:57.080 It looks like he's dressed by his five-year-old.

01:11:58.600 But it's not so bad.

01:12:01.000 People sometimes are.

01:12:02.940 I think he should have read this one.

01:12:04.040 Daddy's like, okay.

01:12:06.100 That's sweet.

01:12:06.780 And if that's how he gets dressed in the morning, that's the only reason it would be okay.

01:12:12.380 But I actually kind of don't mind him.

01:12:15.080 I think he's doing an okay job.

01:12:16.500 He's probably not doing most of the real job.

01:12:18.240 I will say I knew him when he was at Fox News and he was a solid guy.

01:12:21.000 Right.

01:12:21.200 He seems okay to me.

01:12:23.160 And that's an example of where I think MAGA gets it right.

01:12:25.440 Getting a true believer who's fundamentally a good guy.

01:12:28.060 And maybe some of those job functions need to be delegated out to people who have a bit more nuts and bolts experience of certain things.

01:12:35.720 But basically, he's fine.

01:12:36.920 And the other three I just mentioned, eminently foreseeable catastrophes.

01:12:41.560 What about Steve Bannon?

01:12:42.860 I know he's not in the administration, but I definitely have been looking at a lot of his stuff lately because, like I said, at the end, you start looking at the beginning.

01:12:48.680 And Steve Bannon was so right about everything when MAGA.

01:12:51.060 He understood MAGA.

01:12:51.860 He understood the populist movement.

01:12:53.100 He was in Trump's ear.

01:12:55.160 And now I'm just wondering, how do you perceive the relationship between him and Trump?

01:13:00.220 Because Trump still speaks with him, but he doesn't seem to be doing anything that Steve Bannon is saying and the things that Steve Bannon is expressing.

01:13:05.860 We don't speak as often as we used to, but I have great respect for Steve.

01:13:10.080 I like Steve very much.

01:13:11.540 And he's really wrong.

01:13:14.180 I think his analyses of things are good.

01:13:16.780 And the thing I think that Steve has, which I've always admired, which is something that you see in Great Priests, is you can go through hell.

01:13:23.340 You can hear the worst that humanity has to offer.

01:13:25.380 You know, you can be presented with the most pessimistic fact pattern in the world.

01:13:32.300 Steve will find a way within minutes to chart a course to victory that sounds plausible, that's exciting, that you could think, okay, all right, okay, okay.

01:13:44.240 It's very powerful.

01:13:45.580 And so I think he's very underrated as an orator, as well as being a great strategist.

01:13:50.520 But more often than not, right of everything, and Steve was never like a, to the best of my recollection, I mean, we were at Breitbart together working very closely for years.

01:13:58.580 But to the best of my recollection, he was never a big Israel nut, you know, I mean, he's a pragmatist, you know.

01:14:03.860 He would probably say a Leninist.

01:14:05.100 So, I think he's seen the writing on the wall and said something about Trump that many of us are feeling.

01:14:11.460 You know, Bannon is not the power that maybe he was once, but he remains one of the most intelligent and interesting and unusually correct commentators and strategists that I think we have.

01:14:25.600 Who do you think has Trump's ear right now?

01:14:27.240 That's kind of an interesting question, because you're just wondering, someone who hates him, clearly, obviously, right?

01:14:31.580 I mean, someone who hates him has his ear and is telling him to do all the things that he shouldn't do, to tweet all the things that he shouldn't be tweeting.

01:14:37.380 Never Trump is surrounding him.

01:14:39.060 The fact that he's promoting, like, Mark Levin, it's like, literally, these people absolutely detest you.

01:14:44.440 And they somehow, it's almost like a humiliation ritual.

01:14:46.620 When he said tune into Levin, I quote retweeted it with, in your dreams cankles.

01:14:51.000 Because it had just come out about his big swollen legs.

01:14:54.800 Mark Levin, you know, this is a family-friendly show, so I actually can't talk about Mark Levin.

01:15:00.220 And there's no, I can't see any path through this where we don't get you in trouble.

01:15:08.760 I think a man who has capitulated, who has sacrificed his honor and his integrity, who has outsourced his agency,

01:15:23.640 no longer requires the company of true believers and supporters.

01:15:30.100 He's, he is in the state where he'll do as he's told and accept what's around it.

01:15:36.340 And we keep seeing these people, don't we, in the, in the, in the press footage when he's coming off the helicopter and whatever.

01:15:42.700 These, these faces we haven't seen before smirking in the background.

01:15:45.500 They hate him so much.

01:15:46.700 They hate him so much.

01:15:47.900 They're like, aha, another humiliation ritual.

01:15:49.900 Tell your supporters you don't want their support anymore.

01:15:52.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:53.000 That has to be what's going on.

01:15:54.220 They hate him so much.

01:15:55.500 Unless you have a knife at Ivanka's neck, like what else would justify this, you know?

01:16:00.520 I feel like that's what I want to think.

01:16:02.300 I want to think.

01:16:02.620 I want to believe that all the kids are in a dungeon.

01:16:04.580 Exactly.

01:16:05.300 And then we can understand what he's doing and what he's tweeting because he loves his children.

01:16:08.800 He texted pictures of his children crying.

01:16:11.780 Yeah.

01:16:13.280 And then maybe, okay.

01:16:14.620 And Netanyahu's like, do the thing, do the thing.

01:16:16.240 Not Don Jr. because he wouldn't care, but maybe Eric and Ivanka.

01:16:20.720 Which is funny because everyone thought in the future, okay, Eric Trump is going to run or Donald Trump is going to run.

01:16:25.240 And now, obviously, I think those chances have been completely annihilated given what's happened.

01:16:29.220 But what do you think about J.D. Vance?

01:16:30.780 I find his silence to be quite loud.

01:16:32.860 I have a feeling he's going to really pleasantly surprise us all because I think the expectations for him were so low.

01:16:42.320 The, oh, he's a creation of Peter.

01:16:44.040 People are always like suspicious about, oh, he's a creation of Peter Thiel without really explaining what it is about that that's bad.

01:16:50.220 I could explain things about that that's bad.

01:16:52.240 I know you could.

01:16:53.140 For sure.

01:16:53.640 I mean, Peter Thiel, I put him in the same class as like an Elon Musk.

01:16:57.700 I mean, they have this futuristic vision.

01:16:59.440 It's a technocracy.

01:17:00.340 I mean, they're, they have, I personally don't think that people that in their own lives hold tradition or the nuclear family, that they should have positions of power because for them, they want to create things like, you know, we don't need women.

01:17:16.200 We're going to create an artificial womb.

01:17:17.780 The dad, we're going to have, it just scares me a bit.

01:17:19.540 I was very unsettled by Peter Thiel's answers in that interview with the New York Times.

01:17:24.280 Oh, gosh, do you have that, Skylar?

01:17:25.780 That was hilarious when somebody called.

01:17:27.480 Do you want the human race to succeed or something?

01:17:30.760 And he's like, I was very uncomfortable by that, for sure.

01:17:34.740 They're like robots.

01:17:35.560 100%.

01:17:35.920 The robots are here.

01:17:36.980 But the people he's put forward haven't been that bad.

01:17:38.920 I mean, the.

01:17:40.320 But that's what they need.

01:17:40.940 They need the person that you believe in.

01:17:42.580 And I will say that's the one thing that makes me, and I have not met J.D. Vance, so I'm usually a person that I like to meet someone in person before I enter in a judgment.

01:17:49.860 But I will say that just looking at the story of J.D. Vance, there is, and this is something that Mark always says to me, that is this like the Obama thing where it's almost too good to be true.

01:18:00.920 He's changed his name a few times.

01:18:02.680 He was a senator, but somehow was able to get this book deal.

01:18:05.060 He's got this rags to riches story.

01:18:06.460 And it's not really rags to riches.

01:18:07.840 He's got a family that's been around for a long time.

01:18:09.960 And also he gets this book deal and like Netflix has a deal with him.

01:18:12.720 Like, why did they pick this obscure senator?

01:18:14.560 Again, I'm just at a point where I don't trust anybody.

01:18:16.720 So I'm not saying this because I'm actually dismissing J.D. Vance.

01:18:18.660 I'm saying that I'd like to have a further conversations and sit across from him and ask him these questions.

01:18:23.120 Your radical skepticism is.

01:18:24.740 I'm radically skeptic.

01:18:25.540 Is what the moment calls for.

01:18:27.120 It is the most rational position.

01:18:29.060 Right.

01:18:29.860 Thank you.

01:18:30.640 That sounded so brilliant when you said it.

01:18:32.200 My radical skepticism is actually the most rational position.

01:18:36.120 And thank you, folks.

01:18:36.860 It is what the moment calls for.

01:18:38.240 Yeah.

01:18:38.920 We shouldn't trust anybody at this moment.

01:18:40.340 I'm just a dreamer, Candace.

01:18:42.460 Seriously.

01:18:43.200 I'm an optimist.

01:18:44.260 I've got to believe that he's going to be all right.

01:18:47.500 But how can we trust the J.D. Vance?

01:18:49.500 I mean, what do you think about Elon Musk?

01:18:50.520 I've been calling that from the beginning.

01:18:51.420 I'm like, this guy is very clearly a fraud.

01:18:53.280 We have no real way to know about Vance.

01:18:54.980 We have plenty of ways to know about Musk.

01:18:57.320 And Elon is, I mean, the future he wants is not the future I want.

01:19:01.320 And the future he wants is not the future any of us really want.

01:19:03.500 But all of them are successful because they did deals with the state.

01:19:05.720 I sort of feel like.

01:19:06.600 So what are we doing here?

01:19:07.360 I sort of feel like, based on what we know from Elon Musk so far, that Mars is just going

01:19:11.280 to be a giant brothel.

01:19:13.760 You know, he's got like a four or five-year-old's kind of tiki, mischievous approach to kind of

01:19:21.280 like pornography and stuff like this.

01:19:23.820 He named the AI on Twitter that's for kids.

01:19:29.560 What is it?

01:19:30.100 Rudy or something.

01:19:30.900 And then it's like bad Rudy is the adult one.

01:19:32.760 So they're almost called the same.

01:19:34.040 Almost like you can make a mistake.

01:19:35.360 You know, like I don't like some of that stuff.

01:19:36.840 I think it comes up and flirts, you know, it goes above beyond flirting the line, really.

01:19:41.980 I think Elon Musk has sex problems.

01:19:44.380 Which is not.

01:19:45.140 What gave it away?

01:19:45.920 Could it have been the 97 baby mamas?

01:19:47.820 Okay, but I mean like above and beyond just a billionaire, I can do what I want with whoever

01:19:54.000 I want and I've got the weird baby thing.

01:19:55.260 I think he's got like some real serious sex.

01:19:57.200 To me, you can't be a leader of anything if you don't believe in the nuclear family.

01:20:00.980 That is my opinion.

01:20:02.280 That's my position now.

01:20:03.000 That to me is a personal witness.

01:20:04.440 Where's your family?

01:20:05.220 Do you believe in family?

01:20:06.160 I agree with that.

01:20:06.980 And if your model for family is, well, we can create an artificial womb and we're not

01:20:10.900 going to need this in the future because everything's going to be robotic and your car is going

01:20:14.620 to be able to give birth to your child.

01:20:16.140 I'm going to hit pass.

01:20:17.220 Just look at the people it elevates.

01:20:19.060 Ashley St. Clair, who is, you know, who becomes a briefly, you know, the sort of.

01:20:24.120 Don't hate the player, hate the game.

01:20:25.340 She won.

01:20:26.820 No, no, she didn't.

01:20:27.740 No, she didn't.

01:20:28.540 No, she did not.

01:20:30.640 Her name will forever be synonymous with opportunistic womb renting.

01:20:36.580 You know what?

01:20:37.060 I don't like, I don't, I don't.

01:20:38.580 The only reason I do, I actually have to defend her this moment is because one thing that

01:20:42.140 I just do not agree with is everyone pretending like Elon Musk on his like 20 second.

01:20:46.560 The 20 second child didn't know how babies were made.

01:20:50.880 They're like, she trapped him.

01:20:52.180 I'm like, everybody stop acting like Elon Musk is a four year old.

01:20:55.100 Like he knew exactly what he was doing.

01:20:57.500 I don't think he was baby trapped.

01:20:58.440 He had the resources.

01:20:58.980 He wasn't baby trapped.

01:20:59.680 But she did post five years previously that she about wanting to, she posted five years

01:21:07.420 previously that it was her intention to ensnare.

01:21:13.080 She didn't use that word.

01:21:13.720 But it looked like she was saying it in jest first, first and foremost.

01:21:16.840 And the second thing is, you know, you know.

01:21:18.320 How peculiar that then it happened.

01:21:20.060 Milo, if you could find that tweet, you don't think the person who owns Twitter could find

01:21:22.700 that tweet?

01:21:23.260 I'm sorry.

01:21:23.720 He's not a victim.

01:21:24.420 We're not making Elon Musk a victim.

01:21:25.800 He didn't know about it until I resurfaced it.

01:21:28.940 But I don't think there are any heroes in that story, by the way.

01:21:33.600 Yeah, it's Jerry Springer.

01:21:34.560 Okay.

01:21:34.740 This is ghetto.

01:21:35.340 I recognize this.

01:21:36.380 I do agree.

01:21:37.020 It's Maury, Jerry Springer.

01:21:38.700 And because he's got a lot of money, we're not recognizing.

01:21:40.640 I just find her profoundly unlikable.

01:21:42.660 But okay, we can move on.

01:21:44.600 When for centuries in Europe and then in America, there's an expectation that anybody

01:21:53.140 who runs for president is going to be a married person with kids.

01:21:56.480 I think there's something very valuable about that.

01:21:59.200 Something cohesive, healthy, wholesome.

01:22:02.100 I think absolutely necessary.

01:22:03.940 A hundred percent.

01:22:04.720 Again, if you are seeking to lead a country like this, you're not coming in just as an

01:22:13.020 innovator.

01:22:13.800 You're coming in as a guardian, as a protector, as a caretaker also.

01:22:17.220 And so to show that you understand and have respect for the building block of that society,

01:22:23.520 which is the nuclear family, and to show that you put your money away your mouth, you practice

01:22:28.340 what you preach, you too are a participant in that institution.

01:22:31.920 And therefore, you're going to take care of everybody else's affairs as though they were

01:22:37.320 your own, I think is necessary and reassuring.

01:22:39.980 So I completely agree.

01:22:42.280 With the exception of the clergy, I really don't want to see anybody in public life that's

01:22:45.700 not in the family.

01:22:46.820 I agree.

01:22:47.340 I totally agree.

01:22:48.080 And even with Elon Musk, by the way, the majority of his baby mamas, he used IVF, which

01:22:50.940 I find to be quite strange and futuristic and weird.

01:22:53.120 Well, because, well, I mean, his army of mids, who knows?

01:22:59.760 They all seem like droids to me.

01:23:01.200 I can't explain it.

01:23:01.780 Like the whole AI droids.

01:23:04.680 I feel like they're partially not human.

01:23:06.800 I don't know why I feel this way.

01:23:08.260 One or two of them is employees as well.

01:23:09.580 So one of them is working in AI or something.

01:23:11.280 So they're kind of nerdy girls already.

01:23:13.160 They have a look to them where I just...

01:23:14.920 It's called ugliness.

01:23:15.920 It's not even ugliness.

01:23:16.520 It's like there's something in the eyes that I just don't trust.

01:23:18.460 I'm like, I know that you want to turn me into a robot and I cannot buy or invest in

01:23:22.820 anything that you're selling.

01:23:23.840 If you were to drift off, you might wake up with an implant.

01:23:26.420 Yes.

01:23:26.880 Yeah.

01:23:27.220 That's how I feel.

01:23:27.880 Yeah, I think you're right about that.

01:23:28.660 They talk and they talk about the future and how great it's going to be.

01:23:31.620 And all we have to do is give them our brains.

01:23:33.780 Look at that.

01:23:34.260 I don't trust that.

01:23:35.340 And no disrespect.

01:23:36.460 I'm on Elon's number four.

01:23:37.860 I just don't know about these AI bros.

01:23:39.680 That gay guy, the open AI one with the buying babies, people trafficker.

01:23:45.360 We mentioned another people trafficker, a much fatter one, Dave Rubin, earlier.

01:23:49.900 Those are the people that tend into the obvious and ostentatious evil for me.

01:23:57.380 But that quieter, weird, unsettling thing that you've noticed about Elon's baby mom.

01:24:01.800 Yeah, for sure.

01:24:02.520 I see it too.

01:24:02.840 Yeah, something just makes me uncomfortable.

01:24:04.320 All right.

01:24:04.460 I want to get into some of you guys' questions.

01:24:05.720 I also want to ask you about whether or not you think Trump is going to pardon Ghislaine,

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01:26:15.460 Okay, I'm going to get to some of your guys' comments, because I know that I have book

01:26:18.540 club tonight, and I'm probably, but I do want to just ask you very quickly.

01:26:22.160 Somebody sent me some tallow soap.

01:26:24.820 Was it good?

01:26:25.840 Tallow's fantastic.

01:26:26.580 Honestly, it was.

01:26:27.380 Tallow's fantastic.

01:26:28.280 They used to make our french fries fried in tallow.

01:26:30.740 I've said goodbye to Ashy.

01:26:32.220 Yeah.

01:26:32.580 I have.

01:26:33.500 Which is a white people infliction.

01:26:35.820 Well, yes.

01:26:37.760 Ashy.

01:26:38.180 Yeah.

01:26:40.680 Okay.

01:26:41.640 We can help.

01:26:42.740 I occasionally do suffer from this, being African-American myself.

01:26:49.080 It is an affliction.

01:26:50.280 I am both Ashy and ungovernable.

01:26:52.600 Ungovernable is definitely our affliction.

01:26:55.100 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:26:56.080 Okay.

01:26:56.880 Ghislaine Maxwell, very quick, before I get to people's comments, he's obviously going to

01:27:00.480 pardon her.

01:27:01.020 Do we agree?

01:27:01.880 Of course he is, because it's the most despicable thing he could do.

01:27:04.920 Right.

01:27:05.300 So at that point, can we just all accept that he's already moved her into a prison cell

01:27:09.640 with Elizabeth Holmes, which I don't even think is a real prison.

01:27:12.240 She's like jogging around.

01:27:13.820 Is that Theranos school?

01:27:14.220 Yeah.

01:27:14.580 Oh.

01:27:15.420 So basically, her father was-

01:27:17.580 She's in Club Fed.

01:27:18.340 Do you know who her father is?

01:27:19.800 No.

01:27:20.220 Used to work for Enron.

01:27:21.440 Don't get me started on the Elizabeth Holmes rabbit hole.

01:27:24.080 Do you know what it is?

01:27:24.980 The guy that's bought the Enron Twitter account is so funny.

01:27:27.900 Oh.

01:27:28.160 I think it's the guy who did-

01:27:29.700 If you find Enron on Twitter, it's so funny.

01:27:32.420 He does these things like these spoof products, like an egg-shaped nuclear reactor.

01:27:38.140 It's just funny.

01:27:39.100 Like, kind of weird, surreal humor.

01:27:41.740 It's the same guy, I think, who came up with the birds aren't real thing.

01:27:44.880 Oh.

01:27:46.780 Yeah.

01:27:47.540 He bought the Enron handle on Twitter, and it is my favorite thing.

01:27:50.200 Okay.

01:27:50.500 I'm going to have to look that up.

01:27:51.360 But yes, he's obviously going to pardon Ghislaine Maxwell.

01:27:53.860 Yep.

01:27:54.060 And she's going to go to prison camp.

01:27:56.440 Oh, he's already moved her.

01:27:57.660 If there were no victims, there were no crimes, really.

01:27:58.460 Exactly.

01:27:58.920 Actually, logically, it makes sense to pardon her, since there's absolutely no crimes and

01:28:02.800 no victims.

01:28:02.980 But there's no list.

01:28:03.700 What's she in jail for?

01:28:04.580 The poor children of this world.

01:28:05.580 The more I learned about the elites, it's just, it's sickening looking into the Emmanuel

01:28:08.820 Macron story.

01:28:09.540 Did you watch Becoming Brigitte?

01:28:11.200 I did.

01:28:12.100 And not only did I watch it, I watched it twice.

01:28:15.760 Male or female?

01:28:16.780 Brigitte Macron?

01:28:18.560 Circle?

01:28:18.920 I have, look, I watched it very, very closely, and I watched it with a critical eye because

01:28:24.140 I wanted, you know, respectfully and privately to, you know, to talk to you about a few things

01:28:30.020 about that, but I am persuaded.

01:28:32.380 Right.

01:28:32.980 I am persuaded.

01:28:33.460 How could you not?

01:28:34.160 I'm like, if you say that you don't think that Brigitte Macron is a man, I have to accept

01:28:37.900 that you didn't watch the series.

01:28:39.120 It is the most-

01:28:40.040 I am persuaded.

01:28:40.900 And I haven't even read Xavier's book yet, but I-

01:28:43.660 Wait till you get to that.

01:28:44.380 I am persuaded.

01:28:44.660 We barely scratched the surface.

01:28:45.920 I am persuaded.

01:28:46.540 It's unbelievable.

01:28:47.640 Everyone around me is involved in trans and this and this.

01:28:50.560 It's crazy.

01:28:51.860 There are things that cannot be explained, or rather that they should have been able

01:28:55.840 to and should by now have easily done.

01:28:58.060 So easy.

01:28:58.560 Before you get to the point where you sue someone, here's my photos of me growing up.

01:29:02.140 I don't believe that I know of, not just that I have lived to see, but that I have

01:29:06.720 ever heard of or that I know of a bigger PR blunder than the Macrons suing you for this

01:29:12.040 because prior to that, viewers of this show will know that Candace, despite being a phenomenally

01:29:19.420 successful and extraordinary woman, is sometimes excluded from the coverage she should get by

01:29:25.740 some of the more snooty establishment press.

01:29:28.920 So she could break a story and everybody could know about it.

01:29:31.460 Everybody knew Candace broke it.

01:29:32.700 But you might not see it in the New York Times or on CBS, but you will now because they have

01:29:40.420 got every prestige media outlet in the world to repeat Candace's conclusions or Xavier's

01:29:46.660 reporting and your conclusions, you know, the whole thing.

01:29:48.340 And so now the person who is most responsible for spreading what they say are, you know,

01:29:54.120 hateful and terrible is them.

01:29:57.920 And to sue you, and we'll maybe get into this another day, we'll have some fun with it,

01:30:01.940 but to sue you to reach over the border as a head of state and to sue a black woman after

01:30:09.260 France's history in Africa.

01:30:12.200 What they did to us in Africa.

01:30:14.060 Both of us.

01:30:15.320 No, but I mean, people don't know this.

01:30:20.020 There's like, there's 12 countries in Africa that still have the colonial franc that pay

01:30:24.060 a portion of their GDP every year to the French treasury.

01:30:27.280 They still have an empire.

01:30:28.760 The French just won't leave the Africans alone.

01:30:30.160 They won't leave black bodies alone.

01:30:32.600 And the latest black body that they wish to exert control over is Candace and her big gob.

01:30:38.860 You will not colonize me, the crones, okay?

01:30:41.820 But these perfumed ponces from Paris reaching over the channel and seeking to clamp their

01:30:48.920 hands over the...

01:30:50.560 That's exactly what's happening.

01:30:53.540 The chattering maw.

01:30:54.600 It makes me sick.

01:30:55.180 Of one more...

01:30:55.860 I mean, haven't gay men taken enough from black women?

01:30:58.100 It's just...

01:30:58.840 It's unbelievable.

01:31:00.520 Emmanuel Macron.

01:31:01.420 Their gestures, their sayings, their body language, their mmm, all this.

01:31:08.280 And now you want a freedom too.

01:31:10.000 By the way, speaking of homosexual males, Emmanuel Macron, which is you get into this if you read

01:31:16.240 the full book, which we're going to probably get into as we go into the second season.

01:31:19.620 But what's remarkable is how he didn't sue when people were coming out saying that they

01:31:23.680 slept with him.

01:31:24.400 People who were talking about how they were a part of these like sexual charged political

01:31:27.700 parties, men that said that they slept with Emmanuel Macron, they did not feel the need

01:31:32.040 to correct the record and to sue those individuals who had spoken that way.

01:31:35.900 And yet this, for some reason...

01:31:37.740 Not until a black woman did it and came for the other one.

01:31:43.340 And suddenly it's 1770 all over again.

01:31:48.240 And French aristocrats are chopping bits off black people because they don't make their quota

01:31:54.760 or because they say the wrong thing.

01:31:56.460 They will not colonize me.

01:31:57.840 They will not colonize me.

01:31:58.940 OK, let's get into some of these comments.

01:32:00.080 We have people that are writing in.

01:32:01.560 Let's see who we have up first.

01:32:02.840 All in right.

01:32:03.480 How is it that the Macron's attorneys are able to launch their lawsuit against you from

01:32:06.660 the studios of CNN?

01:32:08.700 So true.

01:32:09.940 Is this a CNN broadcast arm of the pedophile network?

01:32:12.960 And last but certainly not least, we declare war.

01:32:16.380 I mean, yeah, it is crazy that Tom Clare was ready to go on CNN.

01:32:19.800 But I can also tell you guys, we know this for a fact as well, which will come out when

01:32:23.200 we file a response to the lawsuit.

01:32:26.500 They were shopping for crisis PR firms in America before we launched our first episode,

01:32:32.560 before we dropped our first episode of the series.

01:32:34.400 They were in communication with us.

01:32:35.600 And yet they knew that they needed to go out and get ahead of it.

01:32:38.600 What does that tell you?

01:32:39.620 I might be wrong.

01:32:40.260 What does that tell you?

01:32:40.680 I might be wrong about this, but given the length of that complaint and when they filed

01:32:45.840 it, I kind of feel like they probably had that in the chamber, or at least they were

01:32:49.560 writing it while the case was going on in Paris with those two ladies.

01:32:54.340 Which they lost.

01:32:55.020 Which they lost.

01:32:56.200 And when they lost that, that would have been the moment to say, listen, to paraphrase

01:33:02.340 Lady Bracknell, to lose one defamation case looks like carelessness.

01:33:06.640 To lose two looks like she got a ding dong.

01:33:10.340 Because to come to America and to lose, as they surely must, a defamation case, I saw

01:33:19.940 episodes where she is saying, please answer our questions, where she is saying, if you

01:33:25.680 can prove this, why don't you?

01:33:27.860 To try to prove, as they will have to, actual malice.

01:33:31.900 Meaning, they've got to prove that Candace knew it was a lie when she said it and intended

01:33:38.300 to hurt and defame and damage.

01:33:40.300 You can't.

01:33:41.320 She's on air asking you to respond to a request for comment.

01:33:44.460 And they said, we don't have to answer your questions.

01:33:45.820 And people are going, oh, you don't deserve her blood.

01:33:47.840 We didn't ask for your blood.

01:33:48.600 We were like, yes or no.

01:33:49.900 Did you used to live as Jean-Michel Truong?

01:33:51.940 No.

01:33:52.380 Did you used to go by the name Béronique?

01:33:54.160 It's just incredible to me that they're pretending.

01:33:56.180 Like, we said we would fly to France, get their side of the story.

01:33:59.180 We will take your evidence.

01:34:00.280 Here are the pictures of her pregnant.

01:34:02.680 Here are the pictures.

01:34:04.100 And we could have been your PR firm with the truth.

01:34:07.020 And they said no.

01:34:08.360 They wouldn't send blood back.

01:34:09.460 But they are coming for their pound of flesh.

01:34:11.460 They are coming for their pound of flesh, indeed.

01:34:13.840 Amal writes, thank God, pushing you to your own platform.

01:34:17.340 You're changing the world.

01:34:18.200 I'm happy that my daughter can watch someone who looks like her have such an extraordinary

01:34:21.680 impact.

01:34:22.260 Thank you so much, Amal.

01:34:22.840 I appreciate your support.

01:34:24.120 Vishan writes, they, referring to Israel, are going all in because they know that when the

01:34:27.700 boomers are gone, mainstream propaganda is finished.

01:34:29.640 Yeah, they have their most, they have bots on Facebook that are incredible.

01:34:32.880 These little IDF bots.

01:34:33.900 And it's because you can tell they're trying, the only strength they have is in the boomers,

01:34:37.700 right?

01:34:37.900 They're like, we...

01:34:38.340 Almost as sophisticated as the griper bots.

01:34:41.860 There's so many bots.

01:34:43.300 And I'm like, every time you try to say anything about Israel, the bots swarm in.

01:34:46.800 It's because they know they need the boomers.

01:34:49.280 Like, as soon as the boomers are no longer here to defend them.

01:34:51.840 And they need that chill.

01:34:52.400 Even the boomers, though, are changing up their mind about Israel.

01:34:54.580 They need that chilling effect.

01:34:55.760 You know, where if you post it, it's going to be a headache.

01:34:59.600 It's going to get demonetized.

01:35:01.100 It's going to, this is going to happen.

01:35:02.240 And then people are going to, the people who do like me are going to see me getting

01:35:05.240 like, you know, blah, blah, blah.

01:35:07.200 That sort of stuff has never bothered me, but it does bother most people with some good

01:35:10.140 reason.

01:35:10.560 Like, nobody wants to, like, you know, 5,000 people on the internet saying they're an idiot.

01:35:14.520 Nobody wants that.

01:35:15.300 Right.

01:35:15.880 The chilling effect that that has on what people say, what they're prepared to say, and how

01:35:19.340 they say it is significant.

01:35:20.860 It's real.

01:35:21.540 Bots are a psychological game.

01:35:22.660 Exactly.

01:35:23.120 Yeah.

01:35:23.320 Exactly.

01:35:23.860 You're the only person that thinks that you're all by yourself.

01:35:25.660 Exactly.

01:35:26.100 And that's not true.

01:35:26.960 It's real.

01:35:27.180 And even if you're not usually frightened by that kind of thing, it still somehow, at

01:35:34.100 some point, is going to stop you posting something you otherwise might have or should have, even

01:35:38.280 if you're somebody like us.

01:35:39.840 Marcy writes, I appreciate Milo bringing up the UK original sin.

01:35:43.320 By this, he means the Balfour Declaration.

01:35:45.220 He also mentioned the Jewish insurgency in Mandatory Palestine.

01:35:48.960 Yes.

01:35:49.280 It's not a question.

01:35:49.880 It is a comment.

01:35:50.480 And Anders Lovebrand writes, it's too insane.

01:35:54.160 Think a lot about the gift that Trump got from Netanyahu, the golden beeper.

01:35:57.420 That was sick.

01:35:58.280 Wasn't that?

01:35:58.900 It's just disturbing.

01:35:59.860 Even like the signing of the missiles.

01:36:01.360 Like, it's so psychopathic.

01:36:02.640 You have to be a psychopath to support Zionism.

01:36:04.620 Like, why would you go over and sign bombs that are going to kill children, Nikki Haley?

01:36:09.320 Why are we doing this thing?

01:36:11.180 Like, Mike Johnson, to go over there right now, when the entire world is accepted that

01:36:15.340 this is a genocide, to go over and to put on a yarmulke and pray on this remnant of a

01:36:20.500 wall that, by the way, is not—don't even get me started on, like, even they've lied

01:36:23.320 about the history of that wall.

01:36:24.220 It's actually a temple.

01:36:25.200 And then to start this old canard, this Protestant nonsense about Israel and the Bible

01:36:31.360 and, you know, we're told to blah, blah, blah.

01:36:33.940 Starting out that old chestnut again, compounding propaganda with cruelty, with lies.

01:36:39.500 It's too much.

01:36:40.360 It's too much.

01:36:41.020 Totally agree.

01:36:42.460 President Nixon's revenge—I don't think I actually finished that person's sentence.

01:36:45.340 It's too insane to think about the gift that he got, the golden beeper.

01:36:47.760 Also, the drones over New Jersey.

01:36:49.800 That's some military people speculated was looking for nuclear material that had gone

01:36:53.100 missing.

01:36:53.380 Yeah, we never got an answer about those drones.

01:36:54.700 Oh, the UFOs or something, was it?

01:36:55.940 Yeah, we never got an answer.

01:36:56.740 Remember the drones that were above New Jersey?

01:36:58.240 I mean, a lot of weird stuff happens in New Jersey.

01:36:59.880 And we just kind of moved on.

01:37:00.900 Yeah, there's a reason for that.

01:37:03.020 President Nixon—trust me, a bunch of people just tried to murder me from New Jersey.

01:37:06.680 I lived in New Jersey for two years, and they were very strange years.

01:37:11.020 It's a peculiar place.

01:37:12.620 It's like a little Israel, actually.

01:37:15.300 Yeah, it is in places, yeah.

01:37:17.820 President Nixon's revenge.

01:37:19.940 Candace needs to—that's the name of the user.

01:37:21.940 Candace needs to add a lot more airtime to Epstein.

01:37:24.660 Trump can release all the thousands of Epstein files the DOJ has now.

01:37:28.380 These files are not sealed.

01:37:29.680 They can redact all the victims' names and the photos.

01:37:32.100 Yeah, the excuse they're giving is they're saying,

01:37:33.660 oh, well, it's child pornography.

01:37:34.880 That's why we're not giving it to you.

01:37:35.700 They have thousands of pages of interviews with people that could go out now.

01:37:39.180 They could absolutely do that.

01:37:40.660 That is a fact, and it's also a fact that they are not going to do it

01:37:43.640 because Trump's friends are implicated and because Israel has occupied America.

01:37:47.600 America's an occupied nation.

01:37:48.640 Just so you—we're all clear.

01:37:49.680 Let's say it again.

01:37:50.160 It's occupied.

01:37:51.280 We do not have real governance.

01:37:53.000 Everything is contingent upon Israel, and it's been that way since they shot JFK.

01:37:56.400 Who shot JFK?

01:37:56.960 What do you mean by they?

01:37:57.660 I am talking about Israel.

01:37:59.100 Stop with your little taboo games of, like, you can't say it,

01:38:01.660 and trying to correlate Israel to Jews.

01:38:03.640 By the way, in another episode we should really discuss,

01:38:05.980 even them conflating Judaism, trying to say it's an identity

01:38:08.460 as opposed to being a religion, is a trick.

01:38:10.480 Oh, ridiculous.

01:38:10.980 That's a trick as well.

01:38:12.020 Ridiculous.

01:38:12.660 Like, oh, well, now you can't say anything critical.

01:38:15.080 If that's the case—

01:38:15.640 And now we're trying to complete the country.

01:38:16.900 Now it's like, I am Israel if I—

01:38:20.900 the Pentateuch, the Torah, thou shalt not kill.

01:38:23.360 What are we doing here?

01:38:24.020 It is belied by the history of Judaism, of a faith,

01:38:28.260 to say that it is only a faith.

01:38:30.000 I mean, the Jews in Spain in the Middle Ages

01:38:34.920 effectively invent racism for the modern era.

01:38:37.640 Because so many Jews are converting to Christianity,

01:38:40.220 the rabbis are like, what are we going to do about it?

01:38:41.460 Well, how about we say it's in the blood?

01:38:44.020 You can't really stop being a Jew.

01:38:45.820 You can only sort of pretend or whatever.

01:38:47.660 So that'll help.

01:38:49.180 You know, it was a—

01:38:52.120 When we go in history from talking about tribes,

01:38:55.460 ethnic groups, to talking about race,

01:38:57.420 it's a Jewish invention.

01:38:58.120 And it's a central Jewish identity.

01:39:01.080 Another time, for sure.

01:39:02.280 Wallace says,

01:39:03.160 can Jews themselves be anti-Semitic,

01:39:04.820 or is that just called telling the truth at that point?

01:39:07.160 Which is a very good, funny comment.

01:39:08.920 But yeah, it's ridiculous that we're now saying

01:39:10.700 the truth is anti-Semitic.

01:39:12.760 Makes absolutely no sense.

01:39:15.080 Anyways, in closing,

01:39:16.240 I'm going to do another shutdown with you

01:39:17.360 because we have so much talk about.

01:39:18.460 Yay, our past—

01:39:20.040 It wasn't really—

01:39:20.380 We didn't even have past beef.

01:39:21.280 I just didn't know who you were

01:39:22.260 and didn't think that yay should work with you.

01:39:24.000 Let me take this.

01:39:25.200 And Candace sent my present employer,

01:39:29.940 yay, Kanye West,

01:39:30.720 some messages that I wasn't very happy about.

01:39:33.280 And so I know that there will be people

01:39:34.720 who love her watching this being like,

01:39:36.300 but didn't he tweet?

01:39:38.760 At the time that Candace did that

01:39:40.540 with the information that she had,

01:39:41.920 she was absolutely right to look after a friend.

01:39:44.280 I appreciate that.

01:39:44.960 And in the time that has passed since,

01:39:46.240 I think we've got to know each other a little bit better.

01:39:47.360 Yeah.

01:39:47.940 I just didn't know you

01:39:48.980 and I just was kind of like,

01:39:50.060 I don't trust him at all.

01:39:51.060 Let's not start this again.

01:39:51.860 I don't know you, all right.

01:39:52.980 I don't know you, don't cry.

01:39:54.440 How dare you pretend not to know me?

01:39:56.320 No, but I have to say, Candace,

01:39:58.720 no hard feelings because at the time

01:40:00.780 that you sent those things,

01:40:03.480 you had a great care and love for somebody

01:40:05.660 that I have since grown the same affection for.

01:40:08.560 And at the time on the information that you had,

01:40:10.320 I would have done the same.

01:40:11.240 Thank you.

01:40:11.540 I really appreciate that.

01:40:12.320 And yeah, we have much to discuss about.

01:40:13.660 Yay.

01:40:13.940 I also, the reason I first contacted you

01:40:15.260 is because I want to talk about Hollywood Babylon.

01:40:17.040 By the way, you guys,

01:40:17.700 in about an hour,

01:40:19.280 we will be doing the book club.

01:40:20.460 We're starting The Assault on Truth.

01:40:22.240 And there's, what's that?

01:40:25.120 Oh my gosh, we're running.

01:40:26.220 I'm running so late.

01:40:27.360 I literally have to go, you guys.

01:40:29.760 So I will, 15 minutes,

01:40:32.420 probably running 15 minutes late for book club.

01:40:34.440 All right, you guys, I will see you then.

01:40:35.720 Thank you, Milo, for joining.

01:40:36.840 Okay, go for this, go for this.

01:40:37.940 Thank you, Milo.

01:40:52.340 Thank you.

01:40:57.080 Thank you.

01:40:57.820 Thank you.

Candace Owens - August 05, 2025

What Does Israel Have On Donald Trump？｜ Candace Ep 224

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