Candace Owens - September 04, 2026


Who Fell Out Of Charlie’s SUV？ TPUSA Makes A HUGE Mistake Releasing Alleged Text from Charlie.


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00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, happy Thursday, which is basically our Friday, at least it's the last podcast of the week.
00:00:06.620 So we received a flurry of emails yesterday with questions regarding the footage that we aired, the mysterious backpack that flies out of the trunk, the person who picks up the backpack, people inquiring minds want to know, and we can provide answers.
00:00:20.960 We also received a ton of emails asking for clarification to identify those individuals, and we are grateful that many of you guys answered the call when we asked you, who are those remaining security members on the TPUSA team?
00:00:36.800 And of course, because we want to be spicy, we have more exclusive footage of the security members on Charlie's team from September 10th.
00:00:45.960 But perhaps most importantly today, I would now like to formally address the text message
00:00:50.600 that my debate opponent, if that's what we're calling him, Andrew Wilson, released while
00:00:54.960 I was in Iceland, the alleged message from Charlie the night before his death, allegedly
00:01:01.240 sent via Telegram wherein Charlie says he's afraid the left is going to kill him.
00:01:06.860 That message is exceedingly problematic, but not for the reasons that you think.
00:01:11.060 Turning Point walked right into a most wonderful trap, and I'm going to explain to you guys
00:01:15.820 why. Welcome back to Candace. Where to begin, where to begin? I guess let's start with filling
00:01:35.840 in some holes, some narrative holes from yesterday. Now I asked the public if you guys could help me
00:01:41.180 out, IDing some of the remaining security members from September 10th. And you guys obliged me.
00:01:47.600 We can now complete this photo officially. Team is all here. So what I had left off was I was
00:01:55.820 asking about the guy in the far right in the blue shirt. We now know that that is Todd Espy.
00:02:02.180 Like I said, bright blue shirt, far right, just in front of Alex Faria and Brian Harpole.
00:02:09.260 And then we had remaining the person, Chester, I think it goes by Claude Barnes.
00:02:15.740 Now, we're fairly certain, we've done our bit of research here, that that is Claude Barnes.
00:02:19.900 He is at least with Integrity or was with Integrity Solutions.
00:02:22.980 And I want to thank ex-user JJ86 for pulling that one together for us.
00:02:29.000 If you guys have any more information, if we made any mistakes, please let us know.
00:02:32.740 We would like to reach out to these people and see if they would be willing to speak to us.
00:02:37.140 Now, many people noted how odd it was that all of them in that photo appeared to be wearing
00:02:42.260 the same shoes, the same outfits.
00:02:45.140 I think that that was probably done intentionally, that they wanted to be able to recognize one
00:02:50.400 another, sort of like what I was saying about the feds, how they'll have, or the military,
00:02:55.240 they'll have a color code for the day.
00:02:57.700 So that just seems like organization to me.
00:03:00.520 It is remarkable they do kind of all have the same shoes.
00:03:03.140 didn't strike me as odd. But I will say, what does strike me as interesting is that Butch Hibbs
00:03:11.860 is matching them. Yeah, I asked myself that a while ago. I said, what are the odds that Butch
00:03:17.040 Hibbs, the mountain man, just to be clear, not the CIA or the Mossad man, he just likes the
00:03:23.100 mountains, are the odds that he shows up on a whim in matching attire? Okay, here's Butch,
00:03:29.920 obviously the dress code for the security team was to wear a plaid shirt and to wear those brown
00:03:35.100 shoes if you quite literally photoshopped him into the security pic you would just think he belonged
00:03:41.500 we did that look look at the shoes it's just interesting not exactly what i would call mountain
00:03:46.140 shoes but i mean i guess i wouldn't call them massage shoes either anyway we still do not
00:03:54.100 however, have a positive ID on a rather crucial character, Christopher, the security member that
00:04:00.620 was on Charlie and who drove him to the event at UVU with Mikey McCoy and Nate Walker and Frank
00:04:08.040 Turek in the back seat. Now, I want to show you guys some clearer images of Christopher. I realized
00:04:13.420 yesterday we only showed you one blurry one, and I intended to show you more because his beard was
00:04:18.700 grown out. And I find that men, their entire face changes if they grow a beard out. One person did
00:04:25.800 email us and thought that his surname might be Jobin, J-O-B-I-N, but we were not able to confirm
00:04:31.420 or even find one thread or shred of proof that that would be his surname. But like I said, I
00:04:37.600 want to just show you some clear images so we can reopen that part of our investigation.
00:04:42.560 here he is less grown out beard here and here he is with no beard so you could get a sense of he
00:04:52.140 just looks a lot younger obviously like all men do when they don't have a beard and here's another
00:04:56.580 photo of him believe it or not yes that is our individual that is on charlie so if you know who
00:05:04.320 that is recognize that person please send us an email to more tips at candaceowens.com you can
00:05:09.960 also send an email to tips at candaceowens.com would be a person that I'd love to reach out to
00:05:15.980 for various reasons. Now, I can tell you that I did, of course, reach out to my sources at
00:05:21.640 Turning Point USA to learn more about him. When was he hired? Who is he? I don't recognize him.
00:05:27.020 And I was told that he was hired late 2024 and that he was not particularly friendly. He didn't
00:05:34.300 speak to anyone at Turning Point USA's facilities. He was on Charlie. And so that's why nobody
00:05:40.760 seems to know his last name. And I was also told that he was allegedly in attendance during that
00:05:47.140 fateful Hampton Summit where Bibi Netanyahu called Charlie Kirk, something, a story that we broke
00:05:53.520 and which, I mean, Erica confirmed the reasons for that phone call. I don't know if I accept
00:06:00.780 what she told me, but the Hampton Summit is an interesting one, especially given Bill Ackman's
00:06:05.940 odd investment in the story. That's all we know about him thus far. Like I said, if you can help
00:06:10.640 identify him, please do reach out tips or more tips at canastones.com. Moving on from that,
00:06:17.580 we had received a few emails from people speculating that maybe the keys were hidden
00:06:23.800 in the hood of the car. You know, yesterday we were trying to figure out, okay, what's going on
00:06:30.340 here? How was this door open? What kind of security would leave a car door open? Also,
00:06:36.140 what kind of security would leave their vehicles, the security vehicles, blocked in so that they
00:06:43.920 can't get out? And if you rewatch the footage, I do want to say, it looks like the car is already
00:06:51.360 open, okay? Because if you take a look at Justin Davis and you take a look at Blake Haroff,
00:06:55.480 they arrive to the car first. They don't go to the hood or to any other area. They go directly to the
00:07:00.960 passenger side door and it does not appear that it is locked. Okay. How do we know? Because if they
00:07:07.060 had unlocked the door on their way while they were running, we would see that in the footage. The
00:07:10.580 backlights would flash as backlights do when you hit the car keys open on any modern car. And this
00:07:17.960 is a 2025 Denali. So we know that it would just, you know, look red and we go, someone just turned
00:07:23.500 on the car. Now, in order for them to drive that vehicle off, of course, the keys were either
00:07:30.200 already in the car or it was in one of their pockets as well. It could have been in Justin
00:07:36.280 Davis's pocket. It could have been in Blake's pocket. Blake could have put it in the car.
00:07:41.500 And I will say from a purely speculative standpoint that it is at least plausible
00:07:45.780 that in the immediate aftermath of the explosion, one of them either already had the keys on them
00:07:52.460 or perhaps were handed the keys.
00:07:54.180 Because if you watch the footage from Charlie's front,
00:07:58.120 after the explosive goes off,
00:07:59.880 both Justin and Blake Harreff at first sort of slide
00:08:04.780 and dive toward Charlie before then instantly pivoting
00:08:08.300 and sprinting to the car.
00:08:09.520 And we're gonna isolate those actions
00:08:10.860 and show you that one by one.
00:08:12.540 First up, we're gonna look at Blake Harreff, okay?
00:08:14.660 So he is going to dive across the table.
00:08:18.700 That's our table diver.
00:08:20.400 you can watch him actually from two angles. We have the angle behind Charlie's head,
00:08:24.980 which Terrell shared with me, and the angle from the crowd. Take a look at this.
00:08:34.560 There he is. There's Blake. You're going to see him kind of jump across the table there.
00:08:40.380 And many people looked at that and thought it was possible that there was a handoff of some
00:08:45.760 description. But actually, if you examine some side footage, which I'm about to show you,
00:08:49.780 it looks more like he reaches into his pocket for something something that
00:08:55.140 we can deduce has to be small because he uses just two fingers we have no idea if it's car key
00:09:00.900 it could also be something else entirely but we're just showing you all of this because
00:09:05.520 you know all these little pieces make up a puzzle take a look here there you have him
00:09:11.580 maybe keys maybe not maybe something totally different can't be certain worth noting next
00:09:20.900 up we have Justin Davis so he does less of a slide a bit more of a dive but he is not
00:09:26.360 entirely in view if you take a look he sort of looks like he goes beneath the table before he
00:09:33.060 gets up and sprints to the car so we're going to show you that take a look here
00:09:36.940 there's Justin in front he turns around there then he comes around and there he is on that
00:09:46.560 right hand side there outside of the table we can't see what he actually does while he's down
00:09:52.900 there but then he immediately gets up and he runs off is it possible keys were handed to him in that
00:09:59.680 moment sure it's possible is it certain absolutely not but we're allowed to think we're going to keep
00:10:04.980 thinking while it's legal. That, of course, is the video that we showed you yesterday. And we are
00:10:09.720 again going to isolate Justin Davis so that you can see that he is the first to arrive with Blake
00:10:16.220 Harreff in tow to the open passenger door of the Denali. We're going to show you first this
00:10:23.260 as just a bright clip before we isolate who Justin is. Take a look at this.
00:10:28.000 there they are the two of them right there
00:10:34.480 an interesting choice by the way to run to the passenger door i'm not really
00:10:40.820 entirely sure why that is and then he goes for that little meet and greet in front
00:10:45.880 justin little huddle mikey and then he gets in there
00:10:50.360 and then there comes charlie we're now going to show you that clip again uh somewhat darkened
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00:11:32.880 there's mikey not on the phone just covering his ear and now you can see the two of them
00:11:44.880 opening that door. Justin goes around to the front. Who knows? Who knows how those keys got
00:11:53.540 there or whether or not the keys were given or when exactly the keys were given rather to Justin
00:12:01.860 or Blake. Unless one or both of them wants to come forward and share their stories or fill in
00:12:09.060 some of these holes, we can't know for certain. It's obviously chaotic, but it's also
00:12:17.000 strangely choreographed in my view, right? It's strange to me that there doesn't seem to be any
00:12:24.520 misdirection or any fumbling or any confusion. They all knew to go to that car specifically.
00:12:30.680 They knew it was available. They knew it was open. Again, this is all happening within 45 seconds.
00:12:35.140 This is happening within 30 seconds when you see Justin and them get there.
00:12:39.880 And as we stressed yesterday, it's especially odd to me that the driver of that vehicle is missing.
00:12:45.740 The driver, who one might assume had the keys, Chris, and who had previously locked that car,
00:12:52.400 at some point before the explosive goes off, he presumably unlocks the car
00:12:56.360 and then makes a decision to go upstairs with Charlie's assistant, Nate Walker,
00:13:01.600 heading toward the Sorensen Center just before the bang.
00:13:06.680 I mean, minutes before the bang.
00:13:10.540 And like I said, some people thought that maybe it's Mikey
00:13:13.040 who handed those keys to Justin Davis
00:13:14.520 because Mikey was, in fact, in the car.
00:13:16.120 Maybe he had a spare set during that little front-of-car powwow.
00:13:19.460 Maybe I do think it's odd that both Danny and Mikey
00:13:22.500 instantly went to that exact spot separately,
00:13:25.960 but instantly, especially Danny,
00:13:29.000 because Danny didn't arrive in that car.
00:13:30.560 Danny's passing his car and then goes right in the front and does that little dip and then goes off with Mikey to the left.
00:13:37.040 Now, the question that we got a lot of people asking online is who fell out of the vehicle?
00:13:44.560 Somebody falls out of that vehicle.
00:13:46.240 You are correct.
00:13:47.020 Somebody does fall out of that vehicle.
00:13:48.520 And we can confirm to you that that is a different security person.
00:13:51.700 That is Alex Faria.
00:13:53.440 Okay.
00:13:54.340 Alex Faria, it looks as though he attempts to get into the trunk
00:13:58.300 where Frank Tarek is, but then he falls out.
00:14:03.640 And we can show you that with Alex Faria isolated.
00:14:06.700 And yes, in addition to that, you will see in this clip
00:14:10.120 that a backpack falls out of the car.
00:14:13.040 Take a look here.
00:14:18.340 There is Alex.
00:14:20.420 He gets in.
00:14:23.720 And then the backpack falls out at the end there.
00:14:29.880 Now, I do want to say, regarding Alex Faria falling out of that car,
00:14:33.880 it's a bit of a wonder that a pastor would think it's wise for him to be in the car above security on the way to the hospital.
00:14:42.580 You would think that he would yield to security and say, okay, I'll find my own way.
00:14:47.680 I just think that feels mildly inappropriate given the circumstances. And speaking of Frank Turek, there are a lot of things that he has said about that day that are questionable.
00:15:01.240 I mean, definitely the CPR story to me is the most senseless. His excuse that Brian Harpole was distracted and forgot that he conducted CPR on a dying person in a very small vehicle. I don't think Harpole just forgot that. I actually think Harpole told the truth between the two of them, if I'm being honest, when he said that no CPR was conducted in the car. I don't think he was distracted.
00:15:28.500 it. Also, by the way, if you are wondering, as many of you were, who it was that picked up that
00:15:35.720 backpack that fell almost instantly, you see someone pick up the backpack. It is, again,
00:15:41.160 more remarkable luck. It looks like choreography almost. They're so lucky that it happened to be
00:15:47.740 a longtime Turning Point USA employee, Chrissy Pacheco, who picks up that backpack. It's not
00:15:53.540 a random student or a passerby or a police officer, but a person that was in charge of
00:15:58.400 logistics on that day, a member of the logistics team for Turning Point USA that helped to set up
00:16:02.180 everything, that is a truthful answer. She's there in time just to pick up the backpack as it falls
00:16:07.000 out. And we can show that again if we want to just show that clip of the backpack falling out and
00:16:12.100 then it's sort of getting scooped by Chrissy. Here we go. Here comes the backpack. We've highlighted
00:16:18.660 Chrissy there so you can see. First thing she does is she picks up that backpack. End of story.
00:16:27.340 Just in case you guys thought it was a rando. It's not a rando. It's someone on the Turning Point USA
00:16:31.220 team. Okay. Now, I would like to stress here that I expressed yesterday that I believe the backpack
00:16:41.880 belongs to Chris, the anonymous Chris.
00:16:47.100 And honestly, it's a Utah 1102 hearsay sufficient speculation that I am making.
00:16:55.020 I am inferring upon some other evidence that I have been withholding
00:16:59.780 that I'm going to share with you all today.
00:17:01.800 Something interesting that happened.
00:17:02.860 Could be interesting.
00:17:04.080 I think it's interesting. 0.68
00:17:04.900 You see, around 12, 11 p.m., so like approximately 12 minutes before Charlie gets hit, Chris, person that's supposed to be on Charlie, with keys in hand, heads to that Denali.
00:17:23.560 And he unlocks the trunk, and he either puts something into the trunk or takes something out of whatever is in the trunk.
00:17:34.880 That part is obvious.
00:17:36.740 There's something in the trunk that he is going, as you will see, to, I guess you could say, fumble around with.
00:17:46.900 Take a look.
00:17:47.380 there he is no one's around and he goes right where the backpack maybe is looks like he almost
00:18:00.900 put something in his pocket looks to the left a little suspiciously
00:18:06.560 let's play it again for people back at home here he is
00:18:14.080 there he goes something on that left side again this is approximately 12 11 put something in his
00:18:26.040 pocket looks back to make sure no one is looking at him and then he closes the trunk and then we
00:18:34.660 know what he does next is he goes upstairs with Nate Walker, Charlie's assistant, toward the
00:18:44.180 Sorensen building. And I do want to stress that when we when we come back from break, we're going
00:18:48.200 to talk about this message that Turning Point USA released. And it's really strange because if
00:18:53.480 Charlie had expressed that he thought the left was going to kill him and he expressed the night
00:18:57.880 before that he wanted to make sure that his security men stayed on him, as you're going to
00:19:04.360 see him as message, it's very odd that Chris, the main person who was on him, the main security
00:19:12.200 detail on him, would go upstairs with his assistant. I don't think Nate Walker needed to be guarded.
00:19:19.640 I don't think that's what Charlie meant in this alleged text message. And I'm going to tell you
00:19:23.620 why I'm saying alleged in a moment. Let's take a brief break and we'll come right back.
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00:22:15.680 you know like I'm just so curious like what did Chris put in his pocket and why did he then go
00:22:21.760 upstairs with Nate Walker in tow and towards Sorensen what's in Sorensen does he even know
00:22:27.180 what's in Sorensen I mean allegedly they didn't do they weren't looking at rooftops they didn't
00:22:34.000 do a walk around prior to what could have been in Sorensen I mean what are the chances right
00:22:39.380 what was in his pocket I gotta find out maybe we will find out maybe there's some more pieces that
00:22:45.400 we can put together next week. Anyway, so while I was in Iceland, Turning Point USA, namely Andrew
00:22:52.780 Colvett, greenlit Andrew Wilson coming out with an alleged telegram message from Charlie Kirk
00:22:59.260 the night before he was killed. Now, this is the same message that Andrew Wilson bizarrely read as
00:23:05.440 his opening statement in our debate. Our debate was not about Charlie's messages the night before.
00:23:09.820 very strange that he would read that and then didn't want to show it on our during our debate
00:23:16.000 and then he released the alleged message on his show now what's very strange about this
00:23:24.300 immediately strange and should strike you as ever intentional is that turning point
00:23:31.220 will not acknowledge his authenticity and that turning point did not choose to instead since
00:23:36.140 their whole narrative that they have been trying to push is that a leftist did this
00:23:38.940 why didn't they release this immediately why didn't turning point usa give this to new york
00:23:43.700 post give this to the daily mail say aha here it is evidence that he was terrified of the left no
00:23:49.300 to the contrary they did the exact opposite i was the one who revealed and i did not save a left
00:23:56.940 because i was told it did not say the left i was told that he said they are going to kill me to
00:24:03.320 Dan Flood. And I have it on good authority also that the message went out to Dan Flood via iMessage,
00:24:11.960 not Telegram. To strike you again as remarkably odd that Turning Point USA hands it to a third
00:24:18.900 party who we know is happy to lie. He'll lie about what he said two seconds ago. He'll lie
00:24:25.040 about what he knows. Really, our debate was three hours of him trying to gaslight me about things
00:24:31.060 that were said moments earlier,
00:24:34.060 pretending that he knew the charges,
00:24:35.480 all sorts of things. 1.00
00:24:36.480 Why would they hand this to a chain-smoking liar 0.93
00:24:40.020 rather than giving it to someone reputable 0.93
00:24:43.520 to publish it and say, this is authentic?
00:24:47.320 But you know what?
00:24:48.440 Rather than me assert that I believe
00:24:53.360 that the message is a recreation of a message
00:24:56.060 that was sent on iMessage, not Telegram,
00:24:58.760 sent to Dan Flood and with the words the left added, let's for a moment do what the defense
00:25:05.460 does during a probative hearing. Let me actually engage in their arguments. Let's pretend for a
00:25:11.740 moment the message is real because they made a very, very big mistake. This is the text message
00:25:17.720 that he released. Again, this is Telegram. And Charlie wants to know what's the lay of the land.
00:25:27.080 Dan Flood comes back and says, yes, law enforcement has been fully supportive and has agreed to the security plan and posture.
00:25:35.620 Tomorrow's event will be covered by both my team and Campus PD.
00:25:39.720 If additional support is required, patrol units will be available.
00:25:45.060 And Charlie says, thank you.
00:25:46.800 Threats are higher than ever.
00:25:49.360 And then that gets cut off.
00:25:51.320 And Dan says, I have 11 on site.
00:25:54.340 I don't know why we would include that message about the threats.
00:25:57.660 Then Charlie said, okay, great.
00:26:01.220 Delicately remind them that they are there
00:26:02.920 for one person, security only.
00:26:06.420 I'm somewhat worried about the left trying to kill me.
00:26:10.220 Just said separately by itself there.
00:26:14.440 Dan then comes back and says,
00:26:16.360 just so you are aware, I will be,
00:26:17.760 and I'm gonna say Dan because that's what I was told.
00:26:19.660 Remember, I'm the one who told you about these messages.
00:26:22.580 I'm the one who broke the story and they gaslit me.
00:26:25.340 And now they're admitting it,
00:26:26.860 but saying it was the left.
00:26:29.820 Dan, this allegedly should be Dan,
00:26:32.020 comes back and says,
00:26:32.720 just so you're aware, 0.98
00:26:33.380 I will be strict with allowing people into our bubble.
00:26:35.920 I can't have distractions in there.
00:26:38.060 As you spoke of earlier,
00:26:39.460 we are here for one priority.
00:26:42.400 And then Dan replies to Charlie having said,
00:26:47.160 I'm somewhat worried about the left trying to kill me.
00:26:50.320 I'm saying, I've got you.
00:26:51.940 I will do all in my power
00:26:53.100 to make that extremely difficult,
00:26:55.420 to which Charlie likes that on Telegram.
00:26:58.060 Now, immediately the internet clocked
00:27:01.300 that this actually made me look good
00:27:03.280 because back when Erica did her first PR blitz
00:27:07.840 in December of 2025,
00:27:09.380 it was me who had been telling the world
00:27:11.760 that Charlie sent two messages the night before.
00:27:15.220 He was worried that they were going to kill him.
00:27:17.280 I actually revealed this on October 7th.
00:27:19.260 You can go back and watch the episode.
00:27:21.200 And I was explicit in saying that it was not the left
00:27:25.040 as this unconfirmed text message reads, but they.
00:27:29.320 In fact, when Andrew Colvett told me this information
00:27:32.360 because he was my source and he told me he received one message
00:27:36.760 and Dan Flood received the other and I covered for him
00:27:39.240 and said it was a donor as well as somebody close to Turning Point USA,
00:27:43.700 I specifically asked Andrew Colvett who Charlie meant by they.
00:27:51.100 So I was told this in the week after Charlie died by Andrew Colbett, okay?
00:27:56.740 And I specifically prodded that narrative and I said, who is they?
00:28:01.920 And he told me that he did not know.
00:28:04.220 So I'm not going to pretend he said, oh, it's the Jews in Israel.
00:28:07.900 He didn't say that.
00:28:09.580 He said, I don't know.
00:28:10.820 And I thought that's weird.
00:28:11.560 Like, who just randomly would text Andrew Colbett and be like, they're going to kill me?
00:28:13.640 Like, who's going to randomly then text Sam Flood and say, they're going to kill me and not be more explicit?
00:28:18.180 I would have obviously remembered if he said the left because I communicated it instantly on my show on October 7th and said, this is exclusive.
00:28:26.060 This is he sent it to two people.
00:28:28.380 Yet, despite me knowing about Charlie's concerns and knowing about these message back in September and informing my audience on October 7th,
00:28:36.240 months later in December, when Erica hit the circuit, clearly with the express purpose of debunking what I had said, she denied the message's existence.
00:28:46.820 She wanted to let Glenn Beck, and here's what she said.
00:28:49.480 Take a listen.
00:28:51.000 I know the tour, that was the first stop of the tour.
00:28:55.840 And I know you two had met with your priest the night before.
00:29:00.400 And do you think Charlie knew to some degree and had made the conscious choice that I may
00:29:12.700 be taken out early not saying he knew that that day but that he had any inkling that this might
00:29:20.520 come his way and that he intentionally chose to move forward with faith in God it's interesting
00:29:29.400 because we always we have I mean I still I have unbelievable amounts of death threats my kids have
00:29:36.920 kidnapping threats, death threats. Our whole team has death threats. We knew that there was always
00:29:43.640 going to be a threat, but Charlie and I always, we promised each other we would never live in fear.
00:29:48.540 And he would say, if they're going to get me, they're going to get me. But he was not messaging
00:29:52.720 people the day before saying, I'm going to be murdered. They're coming after me. Someone's
00:29:59.200 going to kill me. He didn't say that. And I had his cell phone. Didn't say that. 0.99
00:30:06.920 spicy. He didn't say that. And I have a cell phone. And it's important to remember that Andrew
00:30:12.380 Colbert was doing PR with her and traveling with her at this time. So it really is weird that Andrew
00:30:17.160 Colbert would tell me that and not tell Erica. Months later, we're supposed to believe that
00:30:22.320 Erica was completely ignorant on these messages until I clocked her. That was the original TPUSA
00:30:29.240 sin, so to speak, that I said, that's really weird. And the next day I went on my show and I said,
00:30:33.900 she's lying. Erica is lying there. That's very strange. These messages absolutely were real. 0.59
00:30:39.820 They were received by Dan Flood and Andrew Colvett. And then I met up with Erica. They very
00:30:45.080 quickly then reached out and she was like, oh, yeah, no, the messages are real. Once you said
00:30:49.880 that, then I went in and I saw that Charlie, she said something about connecting the phone to the
00:30:56.120 internet. And she then confirmed with the team. And Charlie had the phone set to auto delete
00:31:02.840 on his signal in his telegram.
00:31:05.120 What I didn't reveal to Erica
00:31:06.360 is that a source that I trust deeply
00:31:10.340 much more than I trust Erica
00:31:11.800 and who has been more consistent
00:31:13.340 on telling the truth
00:31:13.960 about what happened on that day
00:31:15.200 said the text messages
00:31:16.540 were received on iMessage.
00:31:18.460 So I am not inclined to believe
00:31:19.840 that these messages are on telegram.
00:31:22.220 But actually,
00:31:23.440 there's something bigger,
00:31:24.820 boys and girls,
00:31:25.920 the trap that they walked right into.
00:31:28.880 More interesting than this,
00:31:31.260 whether or not the message is edited
00:31:32.280 or not, is that Andrew Wilson provided timestamps. The internet literally did not clock this.
00:31:41.520 Now, Andrew, Andrew Wilson, if you had listened to me and how much I love a timeline, my official
00:31:48.560 timeline, you would have recalled that I had been meticulous about Charlie's schedule on September
00:31:54.820 9th, every hour of what he was doing that I could populate onto my official timeline,
00:32:01.360 confirming his whereabouts, what he was doing.
00:32:03.240 And what is interesting about when Charlie sent these alleged panicked messages
00:32:09.720 to his security, Dan Flood, and to Andrew Colvett, which he has not yet addressed,
00:32:18.100 is that he sent them when he was on the now notorious Zoom call with leaders in Israel.
00:32:27.960 Let me jog your memory.
00:32:30.760 Regarding Charlie's final day, day before he died, September 9th.
00:32:37.980 Erica, remember he comes back from Korea, so he's jet-lagged.
00:32:41.160 Erica said that she woke Charlie up for his Fox News hit.
00:32:44.160 That's per Andrew Colvett.
00:32:45.340 At 1 o'clock p.m., Charlie appears in the Will Cain show from his Turning Point USA office studio.
00:32:50.600 He then jumps right on to a 40-minute interview on Mark Halperin's show.
00:32:55.960 At 3 o'clock p.m., Erica told me that she was getting her nails done
00:32:58.980 and that in this hour is when Charlie had that back and forth
00:33:03.460 and fight on the phone and said
00:33:06.540 that he was leaving the pro-Israel cause.
00:33:08.820 And no, he was not saying it tongue in cheek.
00:33:10.560 That's at 3.54 p.m. that message was sent.
00:33:14.820 Suddenly, there's a Zoom call, an emergency Zoom call.
00:33:19.780 It seems to me this was an emergency Zoom call
00:33:21.960 because we have Charlie, we have Josh Hammer,
00:33:25.300 we have Frank Turek, we have Rabbi Wolicki,
00:33:28.980 we have two Israeli officials that are on the Zoom call
00:33:33.040 as well as Blake Neff and Andrew Colvett.
00:33:37.200 If Rabbi Wolicki is to be believed,
00:33:39.000 he says that actually, we'll show you that in a second,
00:33:41.240 that his producers were on the phone call.
00:33:43.900 So I want you to picture that, okay?
00:33:46.260 That during the time that he is on this phone,
00:33:50.720 that he is on this Zoom call
00:33:52.040 and Andrew Colvett is on the Zoom call,
00:33:55.820 Charlie texts him, texts Andrew,
00:33:58.980 Allegedly, as Andrew told me, he told me this explicitly.
00:34:03.160 He receives texts and says, they're going to kill me.
00:34:07.180 Andrew says he doesn't know who he was referring to.
00:34:09.360 But if you were on a Zoom call with Israeli officials
00:34:11.460 after you said that you were leaving the pro-Israel cause
00:34:13.920 and Rabbi Walicki confirmed, by the way,
00:34:17.560 he was the only one who told the truth.
00:34:18.820 Everyone was like, this call was just daisies.
00:34:21.760 And it was about prepping.
00:34:23.160 Rabbi Walicki actually said, yeah, it got a little contentious.
00:34:26.900 Charlie was playing devil's advocate.
00:34:29.980 You know, Charlie was pushing back,
00:34:32.300 asking us about Gaza. 0.99
00:34:34.740 If all of that is to be believed,
00:34:37.060 because I said, why would Charlie just send you,
00:34:38.460 they are going to kill me?
00:34:40.560 No context.
00:34:41.400 Well, the context might've been, Andrew,
00:34:44.800 in reference to the Zoom call that you were on
00:34:47.420 when this message was sent.
00:34:49.740 You're on the phone, you say, you text to someone, 0.52
00:34:52.480 it's not going well, they're gonna kill me.
00:34:55.260 That might've been the they. 1.00
00:34:56.560 If I was using my context clues, if I was in an English class and they said, who is the they that he is referencing in this moment, it would be who he was currently on the Zoom call with.
00:35:10.440 Here's Frank describing who was on the call.
00:35:12.880 Take a listen.
00:35:13.280 so the next day we had a meeting uh a zoom meeting with a couple of people in israel
00:35:22.940 and uh a couple of people in the room and another person an expert on israel in the united states
00:35:31.780 and we were asking them and charlie was asking them tell me your perspective on what's going
00:35:38.240 on with Hamas now and the Israeli situation. Tell me, I want to be better able to answer
00:35:44.120 questions when I get questions on this. So contrary to popular opinion, some popular
00:35:49.200 opinion that Charlie was giving up on Israel, that's not true. He was trying to prepare
00:35:53.280 himself to know the facts and be better able to answer those questions. This is the day
00:35:57.540 before he was murdered. We're in this meeting. I'm in the meeting with him. So the next
00:36:03.780 day we get up, we fly up to Utah and, um, he actually, we had to stop to do a, uh, he was
00:36:15.440 going to do a presentation to a group of restauranteurs because his cousin was a
00:36:19.960 restauranteur and said, Charlie, can you come speak to my group of, of restaurant owners?
00:36:24.900 so there is what we have frank telling us a story that charlie had written this text message
00:36:34.320 said that he was abandoning the pro-israel cause that he wanted to bring candace back they tried
00:36:39.440 to turn this into some tongue-in-cheek text message it wasn't that andrew did not tell me
00:36:44.420 it was that andrew clearly was concerned enough about being on this text thread that he sent it
00:36:49.100 to Joe Kent. When asked about threats and things, and he thought that this message was relevant
00:36:55.180 enough to send to Tulsi Gabbard's office to investigate further. It was not tongue-in-cheek
00:37:01.720 because when I asked Erica about this message, she didn't say it was tongue-in-cheek.
00:37:05.200 Charlie was angry. Then we have from Rabbi Walicki that he kept up that energy. He said
00:37:12.920 in various interviews, you can go back, we have shown it, that he was the only one that told the
00:37:16.840 truth that this call was not some peachy, oh, we just want some debating talking points. Even when
00:37:21.320 he spoke to the New York Post, he said, quote, he was working out talking points, playing the role
00:37:26.340 of devil's advocate, pushing up on these issues, trying to sharpen the iron. He was in a combative
00:37:35.060 mood, he recalled, but that was good because he was preparing for debates and he was preparing
00:37:39.880 for attacks. And like I said, we showed you a clip of him discussing this call and he was clear.
00:37:45.740 Charlie was upset on this call.
00:37:49.400 He was done with the pro-Israel cause.
00:37:51.520 This is not something Erica denied or tried to clean up
00:37:54.380 or tried to present to me in our four-hour meeting
00:37:57.140 like it was tongue-in-cheek.
00:37:58.860 He was angry.
00:38:00.060 He was upset with the pastors.
00:38:01.820 It was something that was happening slowly
00:38:03.440 and then happened very quickly.
00:38:05.040 So there are one of two versions of this that you can believe.
00:38:09.520 That Charlie sends this message and he is upset and he is angry
00:38:12.460 and he says that he will no longer be bullied.
00:38:15.840 He has donors that have just taken millions of dollars
00:38:18.480 from him the day before, threatening him.
00:38:21.080 He says he's no longer going to be bullied
00:38:22.340 and that he is abandoning the pro-Israel cause.
00:38:25.660 And that after that,
00:38:27.220 they had this wonderful peachy meeting.
00:38:30.920 And for some reason, 47 minutes or so into this meeting,
00:38:35.640 Charlie's like, I'm worried the left is gonna kill me.
00:38:38.800 And then he sends Andrew a message and he says, 0.97
00:38:40.600 they're going to kill me. 0.99
00:38:42.460 And then he sends Dan Flood a message and he says, they're going to kill me. 0.90
00:38:46.460 But he really meant the left while he's on this phone call with Israeli officials.
00:38:51.360 And mind you, in Israel, it's four o'clock in the morning.
00:38:55.780 That's that seems to me like this was an emergency call about Charlie's statements in the group.
00:39:01.800 That's what it feels like to me.
00:39:04.200 My common sense tells me that people, when you say, hey, when you want to set up a call, they don't say 4 a.m. in the morning.
00:39:10.540 Not urgent.
00:39:12.460 Charlie knows how to debate.
00:39:14.160 He's smarter than every single person on that call.
00:39:16.760 He needs Blake Neff and Frank Turek.
00:39:18.960 Look at these guys.
00:39:20.860 He needs Blake Neff and Frank Turek
00:39:23.940 and Andrew Colvett
00:39:27.860 helping him to fashion his debate skills.
00:39:32.840 Or, or, this is an intervention.
00:39:38.220 Charlie is done with the pro-Israel cause.
00:39:41.060 He is pushing back on them.
00:39:42.320 He's always going to be polite. It's Charlie. Whatever happened on that call, he side texting
00:39:46.860 Andrew Colvett and he says, they're going to kill me. Andrew then later tells me that text message,
00:39:53.280 but then says he doesn't know who they is. He tells about the Dan Flood message and he tells
00:39:58.200 me that he doesn't know who they is. Never once in our communications did Andrew Colvett say
00:40:03.240 that Charlie said the left. And like I said, you can bet that I am telling the truth
00:40:07.740 because had Charlie had said the left
00:40:10.560 to both Andrew and Dan Flood,
00:40:12.240 that would have been the front page headline story
00:40:14.340 as they were shoving down our throats
00:40:15.640 that this was about trans issues, okay?
00:40:18.740 This is the group that sells out everything Charlie writes, 0.77
00:40:22.160 anything that's in his personal diary,
00:40:23.640 nice notes, anything, bloody mics.
00:40:25.860 If they could have sold to the public 0.57
00:40:28.120 that the left had done this, 1.00
00:40:29.620 this is I forgive him talking about trans issues,
00:40:32.500 that man, that man, I forgive him.
00:40:34.980 They would have provided that message 0.99
00:40:36.940 Not to a chain-smoking idiot, but to what they deemed to be a respectable publication to push 1.00
00:40:45.520 out that narrative. Instead, they denied because what I said was true. He did not save a left. 1.00
00:40:52.780 They denied. They denied. They denied. And then Erica went and did her PR blitz, the stop,
00:40:58.620 just stop. You mentioned Fort Huachuca. She says, stop, just stop. Looks at the camera.
00:41:03.160 that backfires and she goes on on uh the Glenn Beck show he tees her up with a question I have
00:41:10.420 his phone nope we can shut that down Kansas has been lying to you everything Candace told you
00:41:15.440 however in the first three weeks after a gas lit and then they had to come out and admit it was
00:41:22.420 true I told you about the Hamptons okay I told you about BBNet and Yahoo's call I told you about
00:41:28.880 the text message leaving the pro-Israel cause,
00:41:31.360 which they denied until I dropped it, okay?
00:41:35.340 I told you about two messages that he received.
00:41:38.240 Go back, watch it the night before.
00:41:41.140 They denied that as well.
00:41:43.580 They're the ones that keep having to admit to the truth.
00:41:45.620 I haven't changed my story.
00:41:47.860 I haven't changed my story about what happened,
00:41:50.120 and I'm going to stick to it.
00:41:53.180 And like I said, those messages did not say the left.
00:41:59.780 So if Turning Point USA would like to come out
00:42:01.120 and clarify that those messages are real
00:42:02.640 and that those messages on Telegram
00:42:05.440 were not edited in any way
00:42:07.120 to include the little line about the left,
00:42:09.820 I'd like to hear it straight from your mouth
00:42:12.840 because I have it on very good authority
00:42:15.240 that the message was sent to Dan Flood on iMessage,
00:42:18.160 not on Telegram.
00:42:19.440 And I trust nothing that you guys say
00:42:21.760 because you have lied so many times
00:42:23.720 and your stories are all running into each other.
00:42:25.320 again it was not smart to release those messages with time stamps because now you have to explain
00:42:34.020 why charlie felt the need to send messages about his security and his fear of dying
00:42:39.400 while he was on a call with israel four o'clock in the morning israel time to be clear
00:42:46.720 in absolute nonsense anyway we're coming up against time we are going to take a break
00:42:53.100 and we'll be right back.
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00:44:58.740 I can't get over a rabbi, a priest, and a pastor.
00:45:04.800 All people that Charlie saw the night before he died.
00:45:07.220 Yeah, that sounds like the beginning of a joke.
00:45:10.400 That sounds to me like panic.
00:45:13.220 It sounds like an intervention.
00:45:14.420 It sounds like Charlie was done.
00:45:17.140 And then we're supposed to believe that after this,
00:45:20.860 after sending that he thought he was going to die,
00:45:22.480 not expressing this to his wife,
00:45:24.820 he went home and just was so excited.
00:45:29.020 So excited about an event that he does for a living.
00:45:33.780 This is what Charlie does for a living.
00:45:35.360 But this was like never before.
00:45:37.500 He just could not sleep, was rustling around,
00:45:40.440 woke up his daughter.
00:45:41.420 or Charlie was stressed out
00:45:46.060 because he thought they were going to kill him.
00:45:50.340 Again, you get to decide which narrative makes more sense.
00:45:53.120 His daughter just woke up at three
00:45:54.580 and o'clock in the morning
00:45:57.020 because Charlie was just so excited.
00:45:59.860 You know how much I've traveled with Charlie to do events?
00:46:02.960 Charlie being so excited he cannot sleep
00:46:05.680 the night before doing a college event.
00:46:07.460 I've never seen it.
00:46:08.600 I've never seen it. 0.99
00:46:09.640 I'm going to call bullshit on that, Erica. 0.98
00:46:11.420 pardon my language. And when I noticed these lozenges on the ground of his car, 0.98
00:46:20.060 a lot of little lozenges all around, maybe it looks like perhaps Nate Walker picked them up.
00:46:25.000 We see the bag. It's not an Uber bag. It looks like they went to some sort of a convenience
00:46:28.980 store. I gather that Charlie's throat was hurting him from the lozenges that were all littered
00:46:36.800 across the SUV that he was in.
00:46:40.100 And that makes me think that at some point,
00:46:43.360 Charlie might have been shouting the night before.
00:46:46.760 Again, I'm just putting together my context clues
00:46:49.580 of everything that I've seen and what I think happened.
00:46:53.120 I think Charlie was shouting.
00:46:56.220 I think Charlie didn't sleep because, as he expressed,
00:46:59.100 he was worried that they were going to kill him.
00:47:01.620 And I've got to tell you,
00:47:02.760 don't think they
00:47:04.420 was the furry community.
00:47:12.120 That's where I'm at.
00:47:16.180 Maybe you could share
00:47:17.080 some more messages, Erica.
00:47:19.380 Apparently he didn't open up to you
00:47:20.700 and Andrew Colbert didn't tell you
00:47:22.520 and your best friend,
00:47:23.640 Kash Patel,
00:47:24.180 didn't tell you
00:47:24.800 that he had these messages
00:47:26.600 that he sent the night before.
00:47:29.380 Before you want your little PR blitz
00:47:30.940 to lie to the public.
00:47:32.760 but we'll keep turning up the heat we can keep doing that i have no problem doing that
00:47:39.860 anyway top comments from yesterday's episode ali writes notice how all the normal people
00:47:46.760 are sprinting because they think there is an active shooter yet charlie's friends
00:47:50.420 stand record themselves and then take camera footage yeah i mean
00:47:57.700 some people it's fight you know some people it's flight some people it's secure the sd cards
00:48:08.480 everybody knows that i learned that in health class simon range writes so they had to lock
00:48:12.460 down the hats from the thieves but the 100 000 suvs were sitting there open and ready to drive
00:48:19.840 Yeah. Some security. Also, it's interesting that Brian Harpole's claim, as he told Sean Reinesh to pull it from the episode, was that Charlie had no fears the night before. But now Turning Point USA is disputing that.
00:48:36.260 They're now saying that he did have fears and communicated them to his security team. That registers to me as incompetence. You're suing me for saying that the security team was incompetent. Well, why wasn't that expressed to everybody on the team?
00:48:49.840 That he said, I don't want anyone, allegedly, to leave my side.
00:48:56.320 And then the person on him goes upstairs with his assistant, registers to me as a security failure, as incompetence.
00:49:06.460 So I'm going to stand by my opinion that the security team was incompetent.
00:49:13.420 It's weird that they didn't even put him on the ground after he got hit.
00:49:16.800 Did you know that?
00:49:17.200 They put him onto the giant travel kits, like the travel suitcase for the A.V. stuff.
00:49:26.740 Charlie, when he goes down, his body is never laid on the ground.
00:49:30.600 It is laid on top of one of those suitcases that tech people carry all their material in.
00:49:38.040 Weird.
00:49:39.700 That seems incompetent to me.
00:49:41.400 You lay somebody flat.
00:49:42.120 You don't put them on a travel suitcase for tech.
00:49:45.220 anyway um i can tell you guys that we have just getting into some stuff that we are releasing
00:49:56.120 you know that we've been working with vulnerable people project they have a new documentary and
00:49:59.800 we have it up on our website it is called inside the vatican's secret deal with china and in 2018
00:50:06.900 the vatican entered a secretive deal with the chinese communist party the idea was to make
00:50:10.700 things better for the Chinese Christians that the CPP was oppressing. But since then, it's only
00:50:15.340 gotten worse. Bishops are disappearing in China. Priests are forced to submit to an officially
00:50:19.300 atheistic government. Worst of all, Beijing is appointing its own loyalist bishops,
00:50:24.180 ignoring the pope's directions. This dark secret deal doesn't just compromise Catholics in China.
00:50:28.900 It binds and silences the whole church. Even Pope Leo himself has nervously refused to comment on
00:50:34.160 it when asked on camera. Pope Leo inherited this deal, of course, but Pope Leo can end it and make
00:50:39.840 sure that it's never renewed. The Vulnerable People Project covers all of this in the newest
00:50:42.880 documentary that's up on our website, again, entitled Inside the Vatican Secret Deal with
00:50:47.800 China. Actually, it's going to be available tomorrow at CandaceOwens.com. We can now get
00:50:53.020 to your comments from today's episode. We have Ali, who writes, sorry, I read that already.
00:50:59.000 That was from yesterday's episode. From today's episode, Ali, nope, said it again, sorry,
00:51:03.320 in Pregnancy Brain True Detective writes, whenever I felt down on myself, I would watch
00:51:07.500 reruns of To Catch a Predator. Now when I need encouragement, I just watched 10-second clips
00:51:11.720 of Frank Turek, Andrew Wilson, and Erica Kirk and realized life could be so much worse. I could
00:51:15.980 have gone the way of Judas. Also, FaceTime, Pickle Jar, and Glitter Pants are the worst
00:51:20.580 nicknames to have in prison. That's very funny. I mean, Andrew Wilson is just like, like I said,
00:51:26.120 bottom of the barrel now. I mean, they will, whoever is willing to lie to the public, they
00:51:29.540 will team up with. And like I said, it reflects where they are at. They are not behaving honestly.
00:51:35.080 they are lying repeatedly uh especially especially blake knaff there's nobody that gets community
00:51:41.480 noted faster for trying to lie to the public about various aspects of this case lying about
00:51:46.840 who charlie was friendships and like who was who he was friends with and like i said you sense a
00:51:50.840 desperation in blake's and andrew's lies now it's a desperation it's insane to say candace
00:51:56.980 owens and charlie kirk were not friends that is like an insane thing to say and it can only be
00:52:01.860 uttered out of sheer desperation to try to get a handle on the narrative.
00:52:07.700 Scotty Thrive Tribe writes, does anybody have a definitive list of missing evidence? Example,
00:52:12.640 the body cam discovering the rifle and towel, the body cam of Tyler asking a cop a question,
00:52:17.800 the surveillance of the first cop approaching the screwdriver, the necklace, meta glasses that
00:52:24.320 were recording, the camera behind Charlie, TPUSA text. No, I think you just created one. That's
00:52:28.600 good. We'll keep that. You know, I love a list. You know, I love to organize a list. I can put
00:52:35.680 it on my official timeline. Deeply upset some people. Why is it on the timeline? Because it's
00:52:40.280 mine. I like to say organized. My timeline. James The Least writes, Blakey has been entirely
00:52:49.620 truthful about one thing, that Mikey is bubbly. I don't know anything that Blakey has been
00:52:56.120 truthful about. But, you know, Charlie, I can tell you, I don't believe he liked Blake, but he
00:53:00.700 didn't like Mikey. I can tell you that for a fact. He had a relationship with Mikey. And I think that
00:53:04.920 Mikey was the most uncomfortable. And they sensed a weakness in Mikey from the beginning. And that's
00:53:12.200 why they were constantly reassuring him with all these adjectives. I think Mikey knows more than
00:53:17.500 he has communicated. And look, I know more than I've communicated. And it's all going to come out.
00:53:23.520 It is. Joey Wright writes, hey, Candice, regarding Charlie's SUV. I remember when they pulled up to UVU, Charlie's SUV pulled forward and got out to the right of where the SUVs were parked because that's where Charlie Kirk meets the mountain man. So maybe after Charlie Kirk got out, someone backed the SUV in. Yes, I believe that's on camera. And it is Chris who backs the SUV in while Charlie walks forward with Frank and other security guard members.
00:53:50.460 I think I think he walks forward with Blake Hariff and Dan Flood is definitely with him as well.
00:53:55.940 Joey Wright writes, I'm sorry, I just read that I am suffering from the end of pregnancy brain.
00:54:00.500 So you guys are half to bear with me. You know, this always happens.
00:54:03.100 Talks with Tiff writes, Hi, Candice, I know you get a ton of emails, but did you get my email with the UVU documents for event planning?
00:54:10.240 The documents show TPUSA rejecting EMS, asking for three parking spots as close to the courtyard as possible.
00:54:17.500 I did not get that.
00:54:19.180 And if you could resend, that would be very helpful.
00:54:21.740 I will go look for that.
00:54:23.680 And you are correct.
00:54:25.600 I've expressed this before.
00:54:27.660 My source was solid on the fact that Turning Point USA insisted on being outdoor despite
00:54:33.800 them advising that there was no traffic control, meaning that we wouldn't be able to look at
00:54:38.080 people's tickets.
00:54:38.640 That is now stunning, given the text messages that Turning Point USA purports to be real.
00:54:43.780 That Charlie was afraid.
00:54:44.580 Let's take it at face value.
00:54:45.720 let's say he said the left to Dan Flood. They had an outdoor event, open event, while Charlie was
00:54:52.540 scared for his life. That seems weird. No ticket control, no people behind, sitting in the audience,
00:54:58.960 perhaps security. No? That's interesting. I would say security failed him on that day.
00:55:08.420 Kay Willis writes, I'm thinking Blake Neff, Andrew Kay, and those others are terrified,
00:55:13.940 and that is why they are behaving the way they are
00:55:15.540 because they could be next
00:55:16.940 since this information is coming out.
00:55:19.280 I mean, look, I would be terrified if I was them as well
00:55:22.900 because like I said, lies have an expiration date.
00:55:26.620 The truth doesn't.
00:55:29.060 And they're lying.
00:55:30.820 They are lying without question.
00:55:33.400 Why they are lying, we don't know.
00:55:38.580 Sarah writes, so that security crew photo
00:55:40.660 is their pre-deployment photo.
00:55:42.040 I think it should be the quote,
00:55:43.540 these guys failed to complete their mission successfully photo.
00:55:46.080 Oh, sorry.
00:55:46.620 I meant the mission that Charlie was paying them to achieve.
00:55:49.180 My bad.
00:55:50.580 Yeah, that photo looks like it's being taken on the Hall of Flags up there.
00:55:53.900 I don't know when it was taken,
00:55:55.740 but you can see obviously that Chris is not in it,
00:55:58.580 the person that was on Charlie.
00:56:00.640 So we can assume that it was earlier in the morning.
00:56:05.780 Here, I don't know how to say this last name, writes,
00:56:10.160 it's like Charlie saw the walls closing in
00:56:11.880 and just wanted to go back to the good old days
00:56:13.280 of being brutally honest about everything
00:56:14.480 with his big sister, Candice, by his side on tour.
00:56:16.820 Rest in peace, Charlie.
00:56:17.900 Yes, and that was not the only,
00:56:19.440 them trying to sort of downplay the message
00:56:22.420 of him saying he was leaving the purpose of your cause.
00:56:24.520 That was not the only message that Charlie sent that day.
00:56:26.680 He sent the message to other people at Turning Point USA
00:56:29.300 saying that he wanted me back for AmFest,
00:56:32.320 and he made that very clear to them.
00:56:33.500 It was a directive.
00:56:34.880 It was not a suggestion.
00:56:36.560 And like I said, they're hiding all of this stuff
00:56:39.120 because why?
00:56:41.880 You tell me.
00:56:42.680 Because why?
00:56:45.040 You fill in the blank.
00:56:47.720 Why do people lie?
00:56:50.100 Well, the answer is they're always lying
00:56:52.320 because they're scared of the truth being revealed.
00:56:56.040 What is the truth that they are scared of having revealed?
00:57:03.680 Lastly, Brooke writes,
00:57:05.000 sending my love from Houston,
00:57:06.140 stay strong, stay blessed,
00:57:07.160 and keep fighting for truth.
00:57:08.600 Thank you, guys.
00:57:09.340 we are only at this point because of your patience, because of your steady interest,
00:57:16.520 because of you guys not letting this go, because of all of the investigators, smaller YouTube
00:57:24.080 channels, bigger YouTube channels coming together and saying that this is an evil that cannot stand.
00:57:29.120 And I just thank you guys for your support. If you would like to support us in a larger capacity,
00:57:34.760 you can join our book club tomorrow we begin at 1 p.m eastern bearing false witness by rodney stark
00:57:43.800 so it's a perfect time to sign up on the website also of course if you want to support us you can
00:57:47.600 buy merch on the website it is the easiest way buy a hat buy a t-shirt buy a standus cup collect
00:57:53.540 all the standus cups that is always the easiest way to support us you can also buy my book make
00:57:58.360 him a sandwich which is right there um we just finished reading that and it was really fun to
00:58:02.340 read that. I actually kind of wish that I had made the book longer because I forgot how much
00:58:05.800 fun I had writing the book and thinking about feminism, modern feminism, and the journey that
00:58:10.540 it took to get to the radicalized forms of feminism that we see today. Anyway, you guys,
00:58:15.680 thank you as always. If you're not in the book club, I won't see you tomorrow. I will see you
00:58:20.480 on Monday. If you are in the book club again tomorrow, I'm sorry, I'll see you on Tuesday
00:58:25.260 because Monday is Labor Day. Sad. You only had me for three days next week. Skyler's always the one
00:58:30.340 to remind me in my ear, by the way. He's like, I have a holiday on Monday. No, it is not a Monday.
00:58:37.500 I will see you guys on Tuesday if you are not in the book club.
00:58:41.040 And yeah, more sparks shall fly. I promise you guys that. We'll see you then.
00:59:00.340 You