Candace Owens - March 25, 2026


Who’s Lying？ Frank Turek, Erika Kirk, Or Elizabeth McCoy？ ｜ Candace Ep 316


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00:00:30.580 All right, you guys, happy Wednesday.
00:00:33.320 I can tell you right at the top that Nick Shirley got back to me.
00:00:36.620 I was super grateful.
00:00:37.420 We'll discuss that.
00:00:38.140 It's so great when people are normal and just respond,
00:00:40.340 and then you know the truth, and then you can share it.
00:00:42.540 We also have some more issues, however, with the infamous tarmac hug.
00:00:49.240 This is the tarmac hug from hell.
00:00:51.260 Because it turns out that Frank Turek's memory makes that hug impossible.
00:00:57.260 Impossible according to the timeline that they have presented,
00:00:59.900 unless Andrew Colvett, as I have been claiming, was on Charlie Kirk's plane.
00:01:05.700 Otherwise, we again find ourselves in the familiar predicament of
00:01:08.540 somebody at Turning Point USA is lying.
00:01:10.960 Pick a liar, pick a liar.
00:01:12.380 It's a journey, ladies and gentlemen.
00:01:14.860 I will also tell you that I spoke with someone from Hopkinson Aircraft.
00:01:18.940 Remember that unmarked building we discussed yesterday where Erica was allegedly seen?
00:01:23.040 And I got to tell you, right off the bat, the conversation was exceedingly weird.
00:01:28.640 I felt uncomfortable.
00:01:30.480 And also, we've got to get to Kash Patel's girlfriend.
00:01:33.260 She's speaking again.
00:01:35.300 Never good when she's speaking, right?
00:01:36.780 And this time, she has concocted a fantastical theory, which proves that the reason people
00:01:45.140 think that she's a honeypot is because of Vladimir Putin and Putin's philosopher and
00:01:51.740 the Catholic Church and Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson, all working together in a foreign
00:01:55.960 operation. I don't know what to say, guys. Welcome back to Candace.
00:02:13.760 All right, you guys, Nick Shirley, top of show. He got back to me. And like I said,
00:02:18.620 I am grateful. But the issue is that I actually made a mistake yesterday. The signal, so many
00:02:24.080 timelines got mixed in my mind. And for some reason, I thought that the flight from Santa
00:02:28.760 Barbara to Scottsdale on the Y-Refi plane was flying while Andrew was hosting the Charlie Kirk
00:02:35.280 show, which would mean obviously that if he was live on the Charlie Kirk show, he could not have
00:02:38.700 been on the plane. But I was wrong. It was not flying at that time. The Charlie Kirk show was
00:02:43.540 hosted in its entirety before that plane took off from Santa Barbara to Scottsdale at 1228
00:02:50.740 Mountain Time. So this plane actually left Santa Barbara just five minutes after Charlie Kirk was
00:02:57.900 shot and then it went to Scottsdale. And so Nick Shirley was very kind and gave me the details and
00:03:03.100 it's like, oh no, I did actually do that live and here's everything in my communications about it.
00:03:08.740 And then I realized, oh, my gosh, I was completely confused.
00:03:12.100 I was looking at the plane while it was flying to Santa Barbara.
00:03:15.540 If my theory is that it picked up Andrew Colvett, that was its dead leg from Provo.
00:03:20.700 I can also tell you that we have since been able to confirm that that Y-Refi plane is, in fact, equipped with Wi-Fi.
00:03:27.860 Again, we are calling it the Y-Refi plane only because Erica told me that that's who was aboard the jets because it first goes from Scottsdale to Provo.
00:03:37.360 And she alleges, and I don't believe her, that that was carrying Lane Schoenberger, the CEO of Y Refi.
00:03:43.020 And then it does what I presume is a dead leg from Provo to Scottsdale.
00:03:49.160 That's the one that I got mixed up on.
00:03:50.460 No one was actually on that plane while the Charlie Kirk show was live.
00:03:54.060 And then it goes from Scottsdale, I mean, from Santa Barbara to Scottsdale.
00:03:58.720 So Andrew would, of course, have been able to message while he was aboard that particular jet.
00:04:06.140 Accordingly, there's been no change,
00:04:08.060 but thank you to Nick Shirley
00:04:09.140 for immediately getting back to me
00:04:10.600 and confirming that that was an authentically live show
00:04:14.960 that took place within the nine and 10 o'clock
00:04:17.860 a.m. Pacific block.
00:04:19.940 So here is our calendar again of the ongoings on that day.
00:04:23.380 So you can see when Andrew is not available
00:04:25.920 and when that Y-Refi plane is flying.
00:04:29.700 You can see how I got mixed up
00:04:31.540 and I was just wrong, it happens.
00:04:34.900 Moving on, a very interesting find from my producer, Mr. Frank Turek.
00:04:42.520 I have told you this man, Frank Turek, he is the only one that I feel like did not at all quiver.
00:04:53.460 He has been just consistent.
00:04:56.560 He acted the right way when the shots rang out.
00:04:58.920 You know, he ducked.
00:05:00.300 Yeah, he got a little angry afterward and said, I was the devil.
00:05:03.540 She's the devil, don't listen to Kansas Owens.
00:05:05.740 But he, you know, he was tight on the alibis,
00:05:09.040 the timelines, he presented information
00:05:10.680 in just the right way.
00:05:11.780 We have not been able to catch Frank Turek
00:05:14.200 in any lies, right?
00:05:16.640 Frank Turek hasn't made any mistakes,
00:05:18.060 is what I'm saying.
00:05:19.660 Well, something that is interesting, though,
00:05:21.700 is he did do a lot of media.
00:05:23.000 He did a lot of the media rounds in the days
00:05:24.800 following the assassination.
00:05:26.060 He said a lot.
00:05:26.580 He said a lot on his own podcast.
00:05:28.360 I want to remind you that Frank Turek himself
00:05:30.000 is a military guy, okay?
00:05:31.420 He is a former Navy officer.
00:05:34.240 He also has sons in the military,
00:05:35.900 I think in the Air Force and the Navy.
00:05:37.940 Don't quote me on that.
00:05:38.860 It's one or the other.
00:05:40.040 And I mentioned that only because we all know
00:05:43.560 that military men tend to be extraordinarily precise
00:05:46.140 when it comes to timelines, to time in general.
00:05:48.880 They are reliable when it comes to keeping track of time.
00:05:52.820 It comes with their general business.
00:05:54.960 It's a stereotype that holds true due to their training.
00:05:58.260 That's why they even have their own time,
00:05:59.920 military time, right?
00:06:01.420 So it makes it interesting that you're about to hear Frank approximate what the exact or ish time was that Erica Kirk arrived at the hospital.
00:06:13.880 Take a listen to what he had to say.
00:06:16.120 And then when Erica got there, she spent a lot of time talking to the, she probably got there, I don't know, somewhere around 4 p.m. maybe.
00:06:28.620 and she spent a lot of time, as you could imagine,
00:06:34.460 talking to the surgeon and talking to the hospital staff
00:06:39.140 and seeing Charlie.
00:06:43.820 Oh.
00:06:45.960 Uh-oh.
00:06:47.840 4 p.m.
00:06:49.200 Ladies and gentlemen, we have a problem.
00:06:53.120 We have a problem, Houston.
00:06:55.140 The plane in which Erica told me that Andrew was aboard that day did not land until about 4.40 p.m., okay?
00:07:04.860 So if indeed Erica was available to console Andrew and to meet Andrew on the runway when he landed,
00:07:12.400 there is no way in hell she would have been at the hospital even before 5 p.m.
00:07:16.280 Because even with absolutely zero traffic at all, it takes 20 minutes.
00:07:21.760 If you were just flying from point A to point B, it would take you 20 minutes to get from
00:07:25.320 the Provo Airport to Timpanogos Hospital, okay?
00:07:29.000 Now, by the time you account for the landing, the taxiing, deplaning, deboarding, the tarmac
00:07:37.720 breakdown, the hysterics, the cry, then moving into your cars, and then driving from the
00:07:44.900 airport amidst a manhunt for a killer, I remind you, when they get there, there's a manhunt
00:07:50.260 going on.
00:07:50.700 They don't know where the killer is.
00:07:51.760 Don't forget that.
00:07:53.040 He's on the loose.
00:07:54.480 You got the SWAT teams.
00:07:56.200 You got bomb dogs.
00:07:57.860 You got local police forces.
00:08:00.300 The feds are crawling all over.
00:08:03.200 I would say you are looking at, even if you have a police escort,
00:08:08.100 by 15 p.m., the earliest, that they would arrive to the hospital.
00:08:12.560 Okay?
00:08:13.560 Which, yeah, that's a problem.
00:08:17.140 Okay?
00:08:17.280 Frank Turek I will say this did not get that wrong and so he didn't get it wrong I don't I
00:08:24.020 don't feel like Frank Turek said she got to the hospital around 4 p.m. and he really meant 5 15
00:08:29.260 p.m. that's just that did not happen because he's a military man okay that he's not incorrect by
00:08:35.580 over an hour I don't accept that I don't believe that not one bit I reject the premise and you
00:08:39.520 should too Frank is telling the truth um and I'm gonna also add here so is Andrew Colvett
00:08:45.660 Andrew Colvett did not make the story up to me on the phone.
00:08:48.960 He didn't, okay?
00:08:50.460 Vibe check.
00:08:51.580 I was not being lied to.
00:08:53.460 Andrew told me the truth.
00:08:54.880 It was too detailed, okay?
00:08:56.200 It's very difficult outside of being like a high intellectual psychopath
00:09:03.180 to be able to just go into very precise details
00:09:07.420 about how you were feeling on the plane,
00:09:09.760 how it was pent up, how the emotions were.
00:09:12.380 And then when you saw the first person,
00:09:14.040 when the doors opened because you had no one to talk to you
00:09:16.380 when you saw Erica and you, quote-unquote, boo-hoo cried.
00:09:19.540 Andrew did not make that up.
00:09:20.760 That was real, okay?
00:09:22.620 He and I were having a real moment when he described that.
00:09:24.940 He and Erica hugged on the tarmac.
00:09:26.940 This hug will never go away.
00:09:29.300 Never go away.
00:09:31.220 So how do we make these two points, which I believe are true?
00:09:34.420 I think Frank Turk is telling the truth.
00:09:35.580 Erica arrived at 4 o'clock p.m.-ish at the hospital,
00:09:39.800 and Andrew Colbert told the truth that he hugged her,
00:09:42.940 that she was there to greet him.
00:09:44.040 How do we make both of these points true aboard our available private planes that came in on that day?
00:09:50.300 Well, I have an idea. It's been my idea all week. Welcome to the Candace Show.
00:09:54.620 We just have to assume that my memory was correct, that Erica, therefore, flew in earlier than Andrew aboard a plane.
00:10:02.940 I cannot confirm which plane that is yet, but I will. I'll find out. I'm going to find out, Erica.
00:10:07.000 and Andrew flew aboard Charlie's plane
00:10:10.780 because that would mean Andrew landed on that plane
00:10:15.260 at 3.31 p.m. Utah time.
00:10:19.100 That's about just enough time
00:10:20.860 for everybody to crowd around at the airport,
00:10:23.980 have a little cry,
00:10:25.760 and then you're going to arrive.
00:10:28.500 You've got 20 minutes, police escort.
00:10:29.840 I'm assuming there's a police escort
00:10:31.360 around 4 p.m. at the airport,
00:10:34.520 which is at the hospital,
00:10:35.580 which is 20 minutes away, okay?
00:10:37.760 That would mean, again, this is crucial, that Erica was on in earlier flights.
00:10:43.240 The question that we now face is which one, okay?
00:10:46.340 There are too many inconsistencies in the story.
00:10:49.740 The tarmac hug happened.
00:10:51.660 Just accept it as a fact.
00:10:53.740 Andrew was not lying to me.
00:10:54.860 And also, by the way, I will say this.
00:10:56.920 Some say the bubbles in an aero truffle piece can take 34 seconds to melt in your mouth.
00:11:01.460 Sometimes the very amount you're stuck at the same red light.
00:11:04.380 rich creamy chocolatey arrow truffle feel the arrow bubbles melt it's mind bubbling
00:11:11.240 every time we have been confronted with this predicament many times
00:11:15.600 of andrew tells a story and erica tells a story we are able to determine that andrew is the one
00:11:22.180 telling the truth we've been faced with this many times throughout this investigation
00:11:26.060 the hampton summit andrew was telling the truth actually in the end they tried to cover it up
00:11:32.320 whoa, people, all these statements going out,
00:11:34.640 BB call, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:11:35.780 Andrew, in the end, was telling the truth
00:11:37.900 about the hug, the tarmac hug.
00:11:40.640 When Andrew dropped that thing about the 30-odd six
00:11:42.960 and she pretended he went and wrote,
00:11:44.300 nope, I told you, Erica was on the phone that day.
00:11:48.120 She was directing Andrew to do those things.
00:11:50.860 She allows Andrew to look like a fool
00:11:52.860 and like he's a liar,
00:11:54.160 but in reality, it's Erica that's lying.
00:11:56.800 If so, if we're just to go with the pattern
00:11:58.180 that has emerged here
00:11:59.220 as we've been investigating this,
00:12:01.380 Andrew's telling the truth.
00:12:03.180 Andrew landed.
00:12:04.740 Frank Turek is telling the truth.
00:12:06.980 And they got to that hospital because he was on,
00:12:09.300 Andrew was on Charlie Kirk's plane.
00:12:11.180 That's what I'm putting out there.
00:12:12.520 Now, the good news is that we can now fill in
00:12:15.780 some more particular details
00:12:17.340 about what happened on September 10th,
00:12:19.460 beginning with what happened in Arizona
00:12:21.840 at the TPUSA offices.
00:12:23.460 And this time it is thanks to Elizabeth Kravchuk McCoy.
00:12:28.320 That's her maiden name, Kravchuk McCoy,
00:12:30.400 Our Ukrainian.
00:12:32.800 Yeah, a lot going on with her,
00:12:34.200 her family, her background.
00:12:35.320 I don't like it at all.
00:12:37.180 I will say that.
00:12:38.240 Don't like her.
00:12:39.800 Elizabeth, what we can confirm was
00:12:41.360 she was certainly at Turning Point USA's offices
00:12:44.560 when the shot rang out.
00:12:45.540 It was 12.23 p.m. Mountain Standard Time
00:12:48.540 when the shot rang out.
00:12:49.900 She, as we now know,
00:12:51.380 even though this was something they all kind of hid,
00:12:53.520 nobody knows why,
00:12:54.120 she was actually the first person that was called.
00:12:56.460 So much for Frank saying that Charlie trained him.
00:12:58.920 anything happens call call erica call erica call erica first thing walk away that's why he walked
00:13:04.000 away then we find out like he called his wife so he didn't follow the training the militant training
00:13:09.480 to walk away from me let anything happen to me just make sure she gets this phone call
00:13:13.060 okay well then we find out yeah here are the call box it was it was elizabeth
00:13:16.920 so uh the amazing mikey mccoy her husband who i should mention she was set up with it was an
00:13:22.300 arranged marriage if charlie is to be believed he said that in their speech in his speech at their
00:13:26.420 wedding. He rang her first and then they conferenced in Erica thereafter. Elizabeth, after she gets
00:13:33.320 that call, sprints into the office of Frank, who is the lawyer at Turning Point USA. And not Frank
00:13:40.720 Turek, not to be confused with Frank Turek. It's Turning Point's lawyer where she discovers Justin
00:13:46.080 Strife, who was in the office at that time and alerts them to what has happened. Frank and
00:13:52.080 Justin then run to the Turning Point Action Building. Not sure why. I don't know who was
00:13:58.000 there, but that's what they did. I'll say allegedly here, but that's the story. Elizabeth then asks
00:14:04.920 someone to drive her to the airport, and that registers to me as odd. I'm wondering why. Is
00:14:11.120 she not licensed? Is she too upset to drive to the airport? What are our options here? I don't
00:14:19.020 know the answer. I do know who drove her. The person who drove her is Lauren Tonkich. I should
00:14:25.740 know how to say her name. She's a very longtime employee of Turning Point USA. I would call her
00:14:31.120 one of the TPUSA OGs. Back when I was there, Lauren was there. She was, you know, at that time
00:14:38.000 helping with everything, to be honest. And she volunteered for the task to drive Elizabeth to
00:14:43.080 the airport. I want to be clear that that is approximately 30 minutes away in Scottsdale.
00:14:49.240 Like I said, that was immediately weird to me because then I thought, wait a second,
00:14:52.700 but you know who's missing from this equation? Stacey Sheridan.
00:14:59.540 Stacey Sheridan is like the de facto mom to Erica. She's going to step in. It's the only
00:15:03.560 person Erica needs to be around. She's going to be the one recording Charlie in the casket.
00:15:08.440 She's going to be, you know, momager for everything. Where was Stacey Sheridan? Was
00:15:12.200 Stacy Sheridan at the office? No, Stacy Sheridan was not at the office. Stacy Sheridan is missing.
00:15:16.260 Actually, Stacy Sheridan is allegedly home in Scottsdale. I would like to now put out an APB
00:15:24.900 for Stacy Sheridan on September 10th, because I can confirm she was not at the Turning Point USA
00:15:29.400 office. And this is interesting because Stacy Sheridan lives with Erica and Charlie, the same
00:15:36.640 apartment complex, not in the same apartment units. But she just moved in ahead of this.
00:15:42.360 She moved in after her husband passed. I think she was initially living in California and she
00:15:47.240 chose to move into the apartment that Erica and Charlie live. They really are family, guys. It's
00:15:51.560 weird. Mikey McCoy is there all the time. They're always all together. It's creepy. Let me just say
00:15:56.540 this, you guys. Go home. Like once you are done with work, please go home. Just all live in a
00:16:02.760 little hippie commune together and see each other and eat. Like, go home. Have a life outside of
00:16:07.480 work. Your job is not your family, actually. It's just a job. And if anything happens to you,
00:16:11.940 if we have learned anything in this Charlie Kirk story, you'll be replaced, maybe even by your
00:16:15.580 wife. Anyways, I'm now interested because that's something that strikes me as like, oh, did anybody
00:16:23.280 see Stacey Sheridan on September 10th? It's another person we can look out for. What about Tyler Boyer?
00:16:28.460 because I do feel that Erica and Tyler flew together definitively.
00:16:33.240 Was Tyler Boyer at the office on that day on September 10th?
00:16:37.100 Did you see Tyler Boyer on September 10th at the office?
00:16:40.200 If so, what time?
00:16:41.060 Do you have a text from him saying he was at the office?
00:16:42.840 If so, please email us.
00:16:44.720 We want to hear from you.
00:16:46.360 More tips at CandiceOwens.com.
00:16:48.020 This is an interesting person to be missing.
00:16:51.040 Mama Stacey.
00:16:53.120 She didn't need her family there.
00:16:54.960 No, not her real family.
00:16:56.100 forget her friends her family everyone she grew up with remember erica grew up in scottsdale
00:17:02.560 everybody's right there right mom okay mom's a little sick uh dad
00:17:09.540 aunts uncles everybody doesn't everybody live here in scottsdale i think even i heard that
00:17:15.580 nicole rothstein once upon a time lived in scotts where are all of you where's your family
00:17:20.040 where's your high school friends no i when i when my husband dies i want to be with the uh
00:17:26.100 chief fundraiser. She's my mom now. Okay. Okay, Erica. I don't believe that. I don't believe it
00:17:30.380 at all. You're a very shady person. What happens next, according, this is Elizabeth McCoy's alleged
00:17:36.000 narrative, is that she then receives a phone call. She's at the airport. She receives the phone call
00:17:42.480 that Charlie did not make it. She alleges that for whatever reason, she beats Erica to the airport,
00:17:49.220 which is remarkable to me, given how close Erica and Stacey live to the airport, how close the
00:17:56.820 alleged appointment that she says her mother had that day, she was with her mom, and I'm going to
00:18:03.260 debunk that in a future episode, probably tomorrow. Erica's very close. Where's Erica at this time?
00:18:10.140 Why has nobody seen Erica or Stacey during all of this? A lot of action is happening.
00:18:14.360 but Elizabeth tells people that she had to break the news to Erica that Charlie was gone. She's
00:18:22.040 the one that told Erica when Erica gets to the airport and she's inside of this terminal that
00:18:29.240 or this FBO that Charlie was gone and Erica collapses and screams. Now, there's a lot wrong
00:18:35.300 with that story. We don't need to nitpick. It's Turning Point USA, okay? You don't need to take
00:18:38.600 anything they say as fact. It's just another Turning Point USA narrative. Of course, right off
00:18:43.200 about Erica told me that the doctor called her directly and informed her that Charlie was dead,
00:18:47.180 and that seems much more appropriate to me. But like I said, there's no two stories that are the
00:18:51.900 same at Turning Point USA. I should mention, as a point of interest, that there was a lot of
00:18:56.720 evidence that Mikey McCoy's assistant, who knew he needed one, a young woman who by all accounts
00:19:03.060 is very kind and very nice, but her name is Catherine LoCastro. She was a part of the team
00:19:10.280 that transported Erica to the airport on that day.
00:19:13.280 And she also went out to Utah.
00:19:15.120 People found that to be very weird.
00:19:16.180 She's very young.
00:19:17.480 What is unknown is when or how the priest showed up to the airport.
00:19:23.500 But he was also in tow as well, as we told you guys yesterday.
00:19:26.980 Now, according to Elizabeth's narrative,
00:19:30.240 Mikey's assistant Catherine got sick on the plane,
00:19:33.420 just overwhelmed from the emotion.
00:19:35.080 As soon as they landed, they raced to the hospital.
00:19:37.260 I guess nobody waited for Andrew Colvett, except they did. Andrew Colvett is to be believed.
00:19:43.860 Where Mikey McCoy met them all outside, and Elizabeth was thereafter the one who went in
00:19:52.480 with Erica to see Charlie's body for the first time. That's weird. That is weird. Weird.
00:20:01.780 it's wrong and it's weird
00:20:05.560 and I'm sure there'll be some neocon to explain to you that's not
00:20:08.120 it's just everybody's grieving differently
00:20:09.600 sometimes you just want to grieve with people that you
00:20:11.700 kind of just became friends with and that are like
00:20:13.580 young a lot younger than you it's just
00:20:15.520 it's weird okay
00:20:17.080 now at some point
00:20:19.700 they sent
00:20:20.420 Catherine who like I said
00:20:23.900 it sounds like she's quite innocent
00:20:25.520 she's well liked I can say that at least
00:20:27.300 to grab something from
00:20:29.920 the car the car that
00:20:31.780 Charlie bled out in, bloodied car, okay, that he was transported to the hospital in. And when she
00:20:36.140 opened the vehicle and she saw the blood, she was apparently very traumatized, according to
00:20:41.280 Elizabeth's narrative. Now, Elizabeth left the hospital and went to then gather the items for
00:20:47.340 everyone to stay overnight since they did not pack any bags. This is where the allo story comes in.
00:20:54.520 Now, you will note that there is curiously no mention of Andrew Colbert in that narrative.
00:20:58.360 or the feds we were told by frank turek were guarding the vehicle and had taped it off
00:21:04.540 so nobody could get into it so what could be so important in the vehicle that they needed to send
00:21:09.620 this young katherine to retrieve something charlie wasn't traveling with a bag he had a private plane
00:21:16.440 if he had a bag he would have left it in the plane he wasn't planning on staying there at night he
00:21:19.760 didn't pack anything um i've traveled many times but we had his phone and uh gum water
00:21:27.660 I'm just leaving that as an open-ended question. I have another update for you, which is interesting.
00:21:35.720 I was able to connect by just a very strange set of circumstances, a giant coincidence yesterday,
00:21:41.900 with someone who works at Hopkinson Aircraft. Remember, we told you this yesterday. There's
00:21:47.340 this weird unmarked building. It looks weird. And this is apparently where Erica was when she had
00:21:53.260 this little second collapse of the day episode. And I'll just say foremost, they would like me
00:22:00.020 to clarify that they are not a CIA front company. They do real business. They do real business,
00:22:05.200 not a CIA front company. Whenever I say a lot of stuff, I'm always interested in what they
00:22:09.520 focus on. I thought the website just looks a little weird, but they probably do do real
00:22:13.920 business. So just put that out of your mind. Okay, that aside, it was weird. Very, very weird.
00:22:22.500 Basically, it just so happens that after I go off air yesterday, I have a conversation with a friend in Scottsdale, a friend of mine who I trust. And the person I hang up the phone with them and they're like, I have a dinner. I got to run dinner. It turns out that he was going to dinner with somebody who works for Hopkinson aircraft. I can't even figure out how that happened. Like the chances of it happening are slim to none.
00:22:45.100 And I woke up this morning, I had a text from him, which was like, hey, first you mentioned on your show and sent me a photo.
00:22:51.340 You got to connect with him.
00:22:53.100 He doesn't even know Erica.
00:22:55.220 Yeah, he was there when she got the news that Charlie was dead.
00:22:59.420 But, you know, or like, you know, saw her at the airport, whatever.
00:23:02.980 But that was just like kind of a coincidence.
00:23:04.840 I'm like, what a weird coincidence.
00:23:05.740 But like, you know, he's got a lot of good details and you should call him.
00:23:09.480 I'm like, OK, so I'm calling thinking maybe there's an off chance that what we missed here was he just saw her out of the window.
00:23:19.440 Maybe she got the news in a parking lot.
00:23:21.340 Maybe she collapsed in two parking lots that day.
00:23:23.640 One was at the airport.
00:23:25.200 Good to have the confirmation that this person also told my other.
00:23:29.020 This didn't know that we have this friend in common that he saw Erica at the airport.
00:23:33.040 Get on the phone with this guy.
00:23:33.760 I think he's going to be like, oh, yeah, I saw her at the airport.
00:23:35.500 Because if you don't know her, who cares?
00:23:37.260 Right.
00:23:37.660 That's where she's supposed to be.
00:23:38.740 you would just be confirming her alibi, right? Clammed up, super weird, effectively said,
00:23:46.900 I will not confirm or deny. To sum it all up, it was like all, I'm like, okay, what do you mean
00:23:52.880 I'll confirm or deny? Did you see her? Did you not see her? What did we say? No, I don't know.
00:23:57.000 I'm like, okay, did you tell people that you saw her? I can either confirm or deny. I don't talk
00:24:01.780 about things. And it just made me feel really uncomfortable. Again, there would be nothing
00:24:09.740 wrong with seeing Erica where she's supposed to be. It's not something you have to be clammed
00:24:14.740 up about. You're just like, yeah, that's where she's supposed to be, right? Yes, sir. Didn't
00:24:19.980 have a conversation, but just happened to see her. And then I'm like, okay, so now you're saying
00:24:24.460 like multiple people are lying here. And did you tell people this? And then it was like,
00:24:29.980 I will neither confirm or deny.
00:24:31.300 Are you saying this person's a liar?
00:24:32.180 No, I'm not saying that person's a liar.
00:24:33.140 Are you saying that I have this wrong?
00:24:35.880 Well, I'm not saying you have this wrong.
00:24:36.760 I just can neither confirm or deny.
00:24:39.080 It's like, I am not, I don't have you.
00:24:41.120 Like, this isn't a court hearing.
00:24:43.180 I'm just trying to figure out what happened on that day.
00:24:47.080 So I wanted to share that.
00:24:49.100 This person is not in the CIA.
00:24:51.380 It is not running a CIA foreign company.
00:24:52.960 It's a totally legit business
00:24:53.960 and you should buy aircraft for them.
00:24:55.180 But also this person cannot confirm or deny
00:24:57.560 whether they saw Erica that day at their offices.
00:25:02.940 And yeah, we will pause there
00:25:05.860 and come back after a brief break.
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00:26:56.100 So look, Zionists are down real bad right now, okay?
00:27:00.580 It is just not a good time to buy stock in Zionism.
00:27:06.040 And everybody is just seeing things clearly,
00:27:09.020 some people for the first time.
00:27:11.000 And I think there has been sort of a proliferation of this,
00:27:13.800 especially in the wake of Charlie's assassination
00:27:16.000 where we were just fed so much objective BS
00:27:18.280 that it was kind of hard to even focus.
00:27:21.480 Are they really going to just try to pull this off?
00:27:23.880 They're just going to tell us that there's a bullet that they can't match to the weapon, a bullet fragment they can't match to a weapon.
00:27:29.640 They don't know why it didn't go through.
00:27:31.140 Charlie's Superman.
00:27:32.260 Anyway, then they're deeply upset that Joe Rogan, as I told you, similarly has weighed into this.
00:27:38.440 And I missed this part where he specifically spoke about the Superman neck theory.
00:27:44.560 Take a listen to what Joe Rogan had to say.
00:27:46.940 The Kirk thing's weird because now there's video footage from behind.
00:27:50.320 Is that right?
00:27:50.900 yeah it i mean the round that he was supposedly shot with was a 30 odd six which is a big round
00:27:57.620 that's a round that you kill a moose with uh-huh and it doesn't even have an exit wound right it
00:28:01.940 don't make no sense it makes zero sense well you hear about this joe kent yeah yeah they told him
00:28:08.020 not to research or investigate yes so what's up with that he said that they were told to stop
00:28:13.940 their investigation yeah and that they were going to handle it and he just resigned and meanwhile
00:28:18.580 how they handled it.
00:28:19.840 Like, we haven't seen that guy,
00:28:21.580 the guy who loves furries,
00:28:22.900 who supposedly killed Shari Kirk.
00:28:24.420 Tyler.
00:28:25.520 Robinson.
00:28:26.240 Yeah, yeah.
00:28:26.640 We haven't seen him talk.
00:28:29.060 No.
00:28:29.640 He hasn't said he did it.
00:28:30.860 He hasn't said he didn't do it.
00:28:31.960 There's no,
00:28:32.480 no, like, independent video
00:28:35.120 of him talking about it.
00:28:36.460 Yeah.
00:28:37.140 And then there was footage of him,
00:28:38.200 like, at a yogurt shop.
00:28:39.600 Right.
00:28:39.860 Like, way across town,
00:28:41.040 like, 20 minutes later.
00:28:42.140 The whole thing is, like,
00:28:43.480 super sus.
00:28:45.500 It just is objectively
00:28:46.880 super sus,
00:28:47.900 and apparently now they're at the phase
00:28:52.200 where they're angry at people for noticing.
00:28:53.960 And the craziest thing that you will read today
00:28:56.300 is what I actually am just going to see this
00:28:58.660 as Kash Patel's revenge.
00:28:59.760 I think when Kash Patel went in to the FBI,
00:29:02.880 there was kind of this idea
00:29:04.860 he was going to right the wrongs
00:29:06.560 and make sure that he took down the deep state
00:29:08.860 and then he just fumbled every plausible ball, right?
00:29:11.600 I mean, you had Pam Bondi and him,
00:29:15.140 the Epstein files first
00:29:16.820 is the first thing that happened.
00:29:17.900 obviously, it would be the biggest thing with Trump saying, what Epstein files? And we start
00:29:21.620 talking about the Epstein files and then the Charlie Kirk assassination. We're going, wait,
00:29:25.140 Charlie Kirk literally helped all of you guys get into power. Are you really letting it go down
00:29:28.100 like this? Like this, this is we are looking at the deep state. And I think he is now seeking
00:29:32.180 his revenge on people who he feels have thus far are, I guess, guilty of ruining his reputation
00:29:37.740 as professional. And he's doing it via his girlfriend. OK, the young woman that he once
00:29:43.020 referred to in a real tweet as a country music sensation. Most embarrassing thing that's ever
00:29:48.800 happened, like should have immediately had to resign. If this was like Russia, he would have
00:29:52.180 just disappeared, I think, in general. And yeah, he was just to give you an update. He was flying
00:29:58.160 this girl on flying to see her on the FBI plane, going to see her in Tennessee. He has also sent
00:30:06.160 a police force to protect her like where I think are we paying for that? It's like our tax dollars
00:30:11.400 are going to protect his country music-singing young thang.
00:30:15.220 She's definitely got a government security detail.
00:30:17.460 And her name is Alexis Wilkins, in case you're not familiar with her.
00:30:20.200 And people have been suspecting that she's a honeypot
00:30:23.860 and that he's a non-serious human being,
00:30:27.840 especially, like I said, given the Charlie investigation.
00:30:30.680 Well, Alexis was deeply upset by the honeypot allegations,
00:30:33.680 so much so that she began suing content creators
00:30:36.520 and claiming that it harmed her professionally.
00:30:38.640 professionally she's like sings uh the opening at turning point usa events like that's what she does
00:30:45.640 i don't see how that could have harmed her professionally you should go listen to her
00:30:50.180 music we can't play it here because we'll get hit that's what happened last time but she's not that
00:30:55.160 talented is what i would say and that's putting it mildly she's definitely not what i would refer
00:30:59.480 to as a sensation that's not all she's done so apparently for them to exact maybe they're exacting
00:31:05.260 their revenge together. For the last few months, she's claiming that she began building a program
00:31:12.100 or a data set to determine how anyone could think that she's a honeypot. Now, the obvious answer is
00:31:19.440 because they have eyes, right? They suspect it because they have eyes. Anybody would say this
00:31:24.340 if they saw these two together. Someone earlier said, you know, if I just literally saw them in
00:31:29.460 a restaurant, I'd be like, that man must have money, right? But no, it's never common sense.
00:31:34.360 It's never obvious. It's got to be something way deeper. And she has come up with the idea that Russia was behind the attacks on her. And she presented this theory in a 13-part thread explaining how she realized that Russia was behind a foreign influence campaign that controls me and Tucker Carlson and Joe Kent and General Michael Flynn.
00:31:54.120 And they are doing it through the Catholic Church. Even though Russia is an Eastern Orthodox society, apparently Vladimir Putin, because he really wanted to go after this country music sensation with the purpose of taking down Kash Patel and MAGA, he decided to repair the schism.
00:32:13.460 i i'm just gonna let you see her thread and i can't go i can't read the whole thing because
00:32:20.060 it's dizzying it's hard to follow but she's it's 13 parts and you're gonna see she starts to refer
00:32:26.760 to tweets as chapters and i'm really sad that we're at this point in america where a tweet can
00:32:32.440 be considered a chapter i'll go back you can scroll back up she says a foreign linked influence
00:32:36.480 network has been running coordinated operations against the trump administration for 22 months i
00:32:40.920 know it's real because they ran one against me. I was targeted in something that I knew was far
00:32:45.460 from organic. The level of media is isolating, unwanted, and unwarranted. There was nobody to
00:32:50.520 help. I want you to keep in mind, there's nobody to help. She's literally dating the FBI director
00:32:54.120 and has a government security force following her. There's nobody to help, nobody to jump in
00:32:59.500 and say, this is a false op and help me. Well, I don't believe in problems without solutions.
00:33:03.860 So I spent the last few months learning to build programs to utilize publicly available information
00:33:09.840 to prove that this is way bigger than me.
00:33:12.960 This is about creating chaos in the Republican Party.
00:33:15.640 So then she goes through and she kind of, you can see,
00:33:19.300 she then says, recaps, I was falsely labeled a Mossad spy.
00:33:24.160 And then she says, she noticed that people started retweeting it.
00:33:27.800 There were 15 pairs that retweeted in 10 seconds of each other.
00:33:31.540 So then that tweet, she's just kind of generally learning how Twitter works.
00:33:34.680 And she thinks she has stumbled upon something.
00:33:37.040 That's how Twitter works.
00:33:38.000 there are accounts and you tweet something if they agree they retweet it so that's jack dorsey
00:33:43.640 could have probably explained this to her in less time than the months that it took her to come up
00:33:48.620 with this theory then she says the network the network has a trail catholics for catholics lists
00:33:53.840 general michael flynn as their senior advisor on their own website flynn is the anchor of a digital
00:33:59.260 infrastructure that has been repeatedly activated at every major republican fracture point no uh
00:34:04.940 she's just not going to prove that. But I guess she just picked on the Catholics for Catholics,
00:34:10.040 a very young organization. General Michael Flynn spoke there. By the way, that's the first time
00:34:14.480 that I've ever spoken to General Michael Flynn that I remember. Maybe I met him at a random
00:34:17.380 event a long time ago. But my memory, it would be years ago if I met him previously. And I don't
00:34:22.420 think I have, but it's possible because it's Turning Point USA. So she's now putting this
00:34:26.300 at the event that I spoke to a couple of weeks ago. It made her go, aha, it's the Catholics.
00:34:31.020 Let's keep going here.
00:34:32.480 Then she gives us chapter one.
00:34:33.740 And by chapter one, she means just one tweet.
00:34:40.060 Chapter one.
00:34:41.760 No, sweetheart, this is one tweet.
00:34:43.400 This is not a chapter.
00:34:44.740 Okay, we can't, no, not even a first grader
00:34:46.460 would call this a chapter.
00:34:47.800 Then she explains how before the Butler assassination
00:34:51.040 and then chapter two, which is just a tweet again,
00:34:54.580 she says that a coordinated narrative
00:34:56.100 falsely identifies FBI director's girlfriend.
00:34:59.040 So it's as a Mossad honeypot.
00:35:00.280 She somehow connected. I don't know how this jumps from the Catholics to there. You have to read it. It's too stupid for me to understand. Then she goes, the amplifications that were documented, she found out that Russia today retweeted it. Ah, so a news publication in Russia retweeted it. And that's how she then realized that, well, then it's got to be international conspiracy.
00:35:24.200 Obviously, if Russia ever covers news that's happening in America, it's because Vladimir
00:35:30.220 Putin is behind the thing that's happening in America.
00:35:33.120 It makes perfect sense if you suspend rational thinking.
00:35:37.340 OK, then she jumps in and she explains chapter I'm in chapter three.
00:35:41.280 It looks like to be four sentences.
00:35:43.380 Charlie Kirk's assassination within hours, Candace publicly attributes the killing to
00:35:47.800 Israel and targets Kirk's widow by name.
00:35:49.600 That's just made up.
00:35:51.060 That's just a lie.
00:35:51.860 Chapter three is just a lie.
00:35:54.160 I was not naming Erica.
00:35:56.540 I said nice things about Erica, about her speech.
00:36:00.200 Didn't start covering Erica until Erica lied to my face in December.
00:36:03.200 But that doesn't matter.
00:36:04.180 This is Cash Patel's girlfriend.
00:36:06.080 The facts.
00:36:06.600 She can just put whatever facts she wants there.
00:36:08.420 And so she's now correlating, oh, you know, my hubby, I did go after Cash right away.
00:36:14.020 So I went after her boy boy.
00:36:15.800 And that's what she's upset about.
00:36:16.960 And so she's woven that in, I think, somehow.
00:36:20.560 And then chapter four, she talks about Joe Kent resigning, which just happened.
00:36:24.780 And then Catholics for Catholics, he was at the event.
00:36:29.040 And yeah, that is literally only the, I think, second time I've ever even seen Joe Kent.
00:36:35.140 I did not know Joe Kent at all prior to the assassination.
00:36:38.600 His name became familiar to me because the news article, which we covered, which said
00:36:42.840 that he was standing up to Kash Patel.
00:36:45.260 So but she's now woven this all together because why would we all be at the same event?
00:36:48.660 And once again, she shows that when he resigned, Russia Today covered it.
00:36:55.240 So obviously, Vladimir Putin is doing this.
00:36:59.380 And she then shows that the data clearly demonstrates that the same people that are
00:37:04.600 interested in the Butler assassination are the same people that are interested in Joe
00:37:10.940 Kent's resignation.
00:37:11.720 and they are the same people
00:37:13.680 that are interested in Charlie Kirsch's assassination,
00:37:16.420 by golly, guys, she has figured out
00:37:18.540 that the MAGA voting bloc
00:37:21.520 might be all interested in these topics.
00:37:25.920 Yes, Alexis, that is called
00:37:27.540 you have properly identified a group of people
00:37:30.900 that are interested in the same political themes.
00:37:34.760 So if you're interested, if you were a Trump voter,
00:37:36.460 you were interested in the assassination
00:37:37.900 and figuring out who did that.
00:37:39.200 If you're a Trump voter, you're gonna be interested
00:37:41.180 if he decides to go to war with Iran
00:37:42.780 and Joe Kent resigns for that information.
00:37:45.300 If you're a Trump voter,
00:37:46.660 you're going to be interested
00:37:47.280 in the Charlie Kirk assassination.
00:37:48.560 That's not a conspiracy.
00:37:50.700 That's common sense.
00:37:52.900 Anyway, she, I don't know what chapter we're on.
00:37:55.320 You can keep scrolling through,
00:37:57.140 but she showed the data
00:37:57.960 that these same accounts were interested
00:37:59.800 in these same topics.
00:38:01.360 And then somehow said that, you know,
00:38:04.680 General Flynn is running it.
00:38:06.260 And so I just want you to know
00:38:08.580 that she spent months on this.
00:38:11.180 and then discovered that this must be intentional
00:38:14.620 and it must be to inflict harm on MAGA.
00:38:16.680 So I want to help her understand what is happening
00:38:18.940 and what is actually inflicting harm on MAGA.
00:38:21.340 The first thing is, I think, generally speaking,
00:38:26.180 MAGA voters and Democrat voters
00:38:28.460 care about children being raped, okay?
00:38:31.660 That seems like something they might care.
00:38:33.620 I don't think that's inorganic.
00:38:34.760 When people are upset that Trump says,
00:38:38.320 are we still talking about the Epstein files?
00:38:40.140 and then basically Thomas Massey has to fight him tooth and nail alongside some others to get
00:38:47.160 the Epstein files. And then we discover what's in the Epstein files. That's going to harm his base
00:38:51.140 because of what he did. Okay. The second thing that I think might be going on is that people
00:38:58.280 think your boyfriend's ugly. I think they think, I think they think your boyfriend's ugly. I don't
00:39:02.560 know how to say it to you. And so when they see you and they see him, they think this seems like
00:39:08.820 a mismatch unless maybe he's super duper rich or super duper powerful and she's been sent as a
00:39:17.180 honeypot. And I wasn't the one who put that out, so I'm not being sued by you. But I just want to
00:39:22.860 help you connect that dot. And as the news goes, when in the midst of a international war like
00:39:31.560 Iran, which would have implications, of course, all across the world, somebody resigns and says
00:39:38.800 that this is an immoral war,
00:39:40.940 people are going to cover that
00:39:42.700 in different countries.
00:39:44.340 Russia even might cover that.
00:39:45.940 So I do just think that some people
00:39:48.460 think your boyfriend's butt ugly.
00:39:50.700 I think that's all that's happening.
00:39:51.960 I don't think there's a conspiracy here.
00:39:53.500 But I do invite you onto the show
00:39:55.260 to take us through it.
00:39:56.320 Take us through the data sets
00:39:57.760 that you built,
00:39:58.240 the models that you built
00:40:00.000 to bring us to this crucial understanding
00:40:02.260 that it could be Vladimir Putin.
00:40:03.660 She also mentions his philosopher,
00:40:06.200 Alexander Dugan.
00:40:07.900 and doesn't understand that people just have eyes
00:40:12.600 and they don't believe what Cash says
00:40:14.940 about the trolley investigation
00:40:16.840 and they don't believe what you say
00:40:18.200 about your relationship.
00:40:19.240 There's generally a rule.
00:40:20.440 If you have to sue to prove
00:40:21.960 that your relationship is real,
00:40:25.720 maybe not.
00:40:27.560 I don't feel like I have to sue anybody
00:40:28.880 when they say George and I
00:40:30.040 are not in a relationship.
00:40:31.400 People have made those allegations before.
00:40:33.280 I don't care.
00:40:34.760 I don't know why you seem really upset about that.
00:40:37.500 I also want to add, it didn't help that after she did this thread, like the first person who retweeted her was Bibi Netanyahu's son, Yair.
00:40:46.360 It's just like, when they're calling you a honeypot, you just got to be like, Yair, not now.
00:40:51.000 That didn't help.
00:40:52.420 Anyway, here's your boyfriend at a recent hockey game.
00:40:55.920 This is another reason why people maybe don't take him seriously.
00:40:58.380 But here he is.
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00:41:44.800 Maybe you think that's cool.
00:41:46.020 I don't know.
00:41:47.080 Maybe you think it's cool.
00:41:47.860 But I think they just think he's a tremendously unserious person, as are you.
00:41:53.780 Anyway, the real person who's running the entire op is Tim Dillon.
00:41:57.140 I always want to throw it in there.
00:41:58.340 And I'd love to have you on the show.
00:42:00.920 I wanted to note that just in general, Catholics have been under the attack.
00:42:03.600 This is a real headline in the Daily Wire.
00:42:05.000 not that surprising. It's the Daily Wire. And it says the Catholic convert boom is real,
00:42:11.140 but a trouble pattern is emerging. And so you can see what the trouble pattern is going to be
00:42:17.100 in that article is that they're not Zionists. That's why there's always attacks on Catholics.
00:42:23.520 It's because Catholic does not imply Zionism in the way that Southern Baptist might imply
00:42:27.900 Zionism. And so elsewhere in the article, that's what he spells out. And it's just really interesting
00:42:32.040 because there's that meme.
00:42:34.760 Yeah, unlike many branches of Christianity,
00:42:36.500 this is in the article,
00:42:37.340 the Catholic Church does not demand
00:42:38.840 that the faithful be committed Zionists
00:42:40.600 to receive God's blessing.
00:42:42.340 Many prominent members of the church
00:42:43.400 have spoken out about the plight of civilians in Gaza.
00:42:45.840 Yeah, great.
00:42:46.340 This makes us happy.
00:42:47.360 We love that.
00:42:48.120 We think that's great
00:42:48.880 that we are not manipulated
00:42:50.700 by the idea that we're not going to get into heaven
00:42:52.380 if we don't support Bibi Netanyahu.
00:42:54.620 And I do want to say that what's really funny
00:42:56.960 is there's that meme where they deny, deny, deny
00:42:59.240 something is happening.
00:43:00.580 and then suddenly one day they were like,
00:43:02.240 okay, this is happening,
00:43:03.520 but let me tell you why it's a good thing or a bad thing.
00:43:06.080 So this is them acknowledging,
00:43:07.640 okay, it is happening,
00:43:08.720 but let me tell you why it's a bad thing.
00:43:10.200 And it made me laugh because last year,
00:43:11.800 I remember I was like being gaslit
00:43:13.560 about the growth of the Catholic church,
00:43:15.000 particularly by Ali Stuckey,
00:43:16.180 who definitely has a thing about Catholics.
00:43:18.680 And I just tweeted like, oh, this is great.
00:43:20.560 The Catholic church was in April of last year.
00:43:23.940 It's so great all around the world.
00:43:25.000 The Catholic church is growing
00:43:25.760 and Protestant domination drama decline.
00:43:27.580 and all should ponder why that may be.
00:43:30.980 And then Allie jumped in and was like,
00:43:33.260 respectfully, no, that's not true.
00:43:35.140 And then she puts in an article.
00:43:36.780 I think you had that tweet.
00:43:37.760 Respectfully, it's not true.
00:43:39.020 And then she's sort of like, we just go back and forth.
00:43:40.980 And she's like, it's not true.
00:43:41.880 It's not true.
00:43:42.440 It's not happening.
00:43:43.900 She also did like a super long post beyond that,
00:43:46.640 I think in September of last year,
00:43:48.520 of why like, this is not true.
00:43:49.760 The popular narrative is that the Catholicism is boobing,
00:43:52.280 but this is not true.
00:43:53.420 And now you fast forward to today
00:43:55.100 and they're all like, okay, it's true,
00:43:56.600 But let me tell you why it's a bad thing.
00:43:58.420 And there are so many articles now that show how much the Catholic Church is growing.
00:44:02.200 We can just show you a few of them here.
00:44:04.540 But U.S. Catholic population shows growth trends southward, which is true.
00:44:09.280 Here is another article.
00:44:10.480 That was actually an old one, but this one's from 2025, August.
00:44:13.380 More Americans joining Catholic Church than leaving for the first time in decades.
00:44:17.200 Here is one that was in the London Times.
00:44:19.440 Catholics outnumber Anglicans two to one among Gen Z churchgoers, which is amazing.
00:44:24.580 And so it's, yeah, there's a conversation happening. Is part of it being driven by people that are feeling disenfranchised by Zionism? Yeah. When they can see things that are obviously evil and you're telling them that it's not evil and that they're not going to be saved unless they turn the other way. Yeah, I'm sure that it kind of removes the scales from your eyes a little bit.
00:44:47.280 But anyway, I think it's great for Catholics.
00:44:50.040 And we are fully under attack.
00:44:52.200 There's no question about it.
00:44:53.540 And that thread and having the FBI's girlfriend do that really shows you how there's no way
00:44:59.060 that you can attach it to Catholics for Catholics, but she just does because she doesn't like
00:45:03.320 that Joe Kent's Catholic and I'm Catholic or something.
00:45:05.500 And Tucker, who she mentions, is Episcopalian.
00:45:08.360 So he's just always catching strays.
00:45:10.500 Poor Tucker.
00:45:10.900 He's always catching strays.
00:45:11.820 We'll be right back after a brief break.
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00:47:22.140 All right, you guys, top comment from,
00:47:23.700 top comment, pardon me, from last episode,
00:47:25.620 we have from Cece,
00:47:26.940 if I am killed, don't send the cops, send Candace.
00:47:29.900 I got you.
00:47:30.660 I will be there if that happens.
00:47:32.240 I will investigate. Also, Sarah writes, they are investigating Joe Kent harder than they
00:47:37.860 investigated Charlie's murder. Yeah, I am telling you, we are watching Cash's revenge. He's angry.
00:47:43.860 It's so obvious that he's angry. Andrew Colvett's angry. Erica is angry. I forgot to mention this.
00:47:50.900 It came to me, actually, last night. When I met up with Erica, she brought up Joe Kent,
00:47:57.760 and I was so confused.
00:48:00.020 I need to get my notes from when we sat down,
00:48:01.920 but she was asking me about, if I recall correctly,
00:48:06.100 this was a part of the conversation
00:48:07.660 where we were discussing the hospital that day.
00:48:10.700 And Andrew was the one who had called me
00:48:13.200 and said that there was attacks against me
00:48:16.560 or there was threats against me and Tucker Carlson.
00:48:20.080 And for some reason, Erica thought that that was Joe Kent
00:48:23.240 and she kept asking about Joe Kent
00:48:24.620 and I was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
00:48:26.280 Like I genuinely was telling you,
00:48:27.220 I was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
00:48:28.080 I don't know why you're bringing up Joe Kent.
00:48:29.820 And she was like, well, was he your source at the hospital?
00:48:32.080 And I said, no, Andrew Colbert was.
00:48:34.540 And then she said, oh, because there's some guy.
00:48:37.420 And she mentioned Joe Kent.
00:48:39.020 So Joe Kent has been on her mind for a long time.
00:48:41.520 And I don't know why that is.
00:48:43.760 I don't know why she got to Joe Kent.
00:48:45.120 And I didn't push too hard on that.
00:48:46.400 I was like, no, I didn't.
00:48:47.620 Obviously, when all this happened, I didn't know who Joe Kent was.
00:48:50.840 And I know that him and Cash are clashing or whatever it is.
00:48:54.200 But she mentioned Joe Kent to me.
00:48:56.040 and she thought that he was my source at the hospital
00:48:59.900 and it wasn't, it was Andrew Colvett.
00:49:02.380 Yeah, anyways, just sharing that random fact
00:49:04.340 that came into my head
00:49:05.460 and I forgot the name that she said
00:49:07.480 that she thought was giving Joe information
00:49:09.780 and she thought somebody who I'd never heard of
00:49:12.000 was giving Joe information
00:49:13.580 and that Joe was giving me that information
00:49:15.880 and I just told her,
00:49:17.580 no, I don't know what you're talking about,
00:49:19.120 which was true.
00:49:21.420 More comments from today's episode.
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00:50:14.740 Seven Sheets writes, I have so much respect for Charlie being so vocal in his stance against
00:50:18.040 what would be a disastrous war. He has been completely vindicated, sadly. I hope true fans
00:50:22.280 of his will be as vocal and principled. God bless that kind and thoughtful man. He was so right. I
00:50:26.820 mean, seeing the clips of him saying how it would play out, how they always think it's going to be
00:50:30.140 a day is exactly what they said. Oh, they're done. Iran's done. And now Trump's like negotiating with
00:50:34.600 Iran. Iran is dropping some fire propaganda, by the way. They're like they're dropping some pretty
00:50:40.180 cool propaganda. It's definitely a lot better than the White House's, which feels like it's just
00:50:44.420 boomer slop. Natty Nicole writes, wait, I thought Elizabeth patched in Erica when she was on the
00:50:49.600 phone with Mikey. But then Elizabeth also told Erica at the airport. Yeah, two different things
00:50:53.720 I think you're confused about. The first thing is just the initial phone call that Charlie had been
00:50:56.480 shot. And that took place, obviously, when she was at the office. Apparently she screamed and
00:51:01.320 then she went and she found us in strife. The later phone call that she told people was when
00:51:05.660 they found out that Charlie didn't make it. And I don't I don't believe that narrative at all.
00:51:09.520 But that's that would have happened later. The Nicole writes, I spent the last few months
00:51:14.380 learning to build programs to build my conspiracies. Tell me you are a honeypot
00:51:18.560 without telling me you're a honeypot.
00:51:19.900 Shh, Nicole, you're gonna get sued.
00:51:23.260 She's suing, Nicole, you better watch it.
00:51:25.600 She's coming for you.
00:51:26.260 The FBI's are coming for you, Nicole.
00:51:31.720 Heidi Gumbert writes, my cat died on Monday.
00:51:34.220 I've already grieved longer than Erica Kirk.
00:51:36.500 Genuinely, when my cat died, it took me years.
00:51:38.080 I just now feel ready to have a new cat.
00:51:41.600 I just didn't want to like replace the cat.
00:51:42.940 It just felt weird.
00:51:44.220 But I feel like now it's been five years.
00:51:46.480 So I do want Kat and I don't mean to trigger Alexis Wilkins, but I particularly want a Russian blue cat. So add it to the data sets. They're they're very pretty. I love the Russian blue cats.
00:51:59.840 Bonnie Miriam writes pretty rich. Wilkins is implicating General Flynn since he was exactly who brought Kash Patel into the Patriot movement through the Awaken America tours with Clay Clark.
00:52:08.620 Like, yeah, I don't know how that relationship soured.
00:52:11.320 That was weird.
00:52:11.960 I don't really follow.
00:52:13.000 It seems like Castro Tells issues with a lot of people.
00:52:14.940 But clearly, General Michael Flynn is on his list.
00:52:17.400 And it's funny because then later on, she says that the purpose of this is like to not
00:52:21.540 get people to sign up for the military.
00:52:22.860 And I'm like, wait, General Michael Flynn is working to get people not to not sign up
00:52:27.760 for the military.
00:52:28.280 It literally just makes no sense.
00:52:29.960 Everybody hates you guys because of what you're doing.
00:52:32.420 OK, that's always the easier the outcomes razor.
00:52:35.380 It's because of what Trump is doing and what he's not doing.
00:52:38.360 It's because of what Cash is doing and what he's not doing.
00:52:41.560 And also, like I said, I do think that people think your boyfriend's ugly.
00:52:48.200 And I don't think that that's my fault or anybody else's fault.
00:52:50.540 I didn't say it.
00:52:51.400 I'm just saying that that's where the honeypot rumors are coming from.
00:52:54.820 It's not that deep.
00:52:56.580 It's just people with eyes think that something is not organic in that relationship.
00:53:01.180 And certainly suing is not helping people believe that your relationship is real.
00:53:06.220 because that's not what you do if your relationship is real.
00:53:08.700 Just like you don't sue someone to prove that you're a woman, okay?
00:53:11.700 It's just not a thing that you actually need to do
00:53:14.420 if you're actually a woman.
00:53:16.360 Anyway, I think I read all of the comments.
00:53:20.360 Oh, one more person.
00:53:21.220 I missed Love of Light, Love of Light Rice.
00:53:22.520 Chapter one, I've been watching your show since the beginning
00:53:26.140 and I absolutely adore you.
00:53:27.580 Chapter two, it gets better and better every day.
00:53:30.040 Chapter three, go Max.
00:53:31.660 I want to buy that at Barnes & Noble.
00:53:34.040 Get that published.
00:53:34.880 you find a book publisher and you put it in
00:53:36.880 I will read all of those chapters
00:53:38.780 and I will sign that book for you
00:53:40.420 so thank you so much lover of light
00:53:41.900 thank you guys again APB
00:53:44.620 Stacey Sheridan on that day
00:53:46.120 I know I have contacts that are
00:53:48.000 live in that same building
00:53:49.580 if you guys remember seeing Stacey Sheridan
00:53:51.640 that would be great
00:53:52.760 still can't get an Erica sighting
00:53:55.160 but I do have a lot of issues
00:53:57.420 with her Lori alibi
00:54:00.820 that is very problematic
00:54:03.260 that alibi
00:54:04.160 Falling apart. It's falling apart.
00:54:07.120 And I will tell you more about that
00:54:08.420 tomorrow.
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