Candace Owens - Why Isn't The Trump Family Asking Questions About Charlie Kirk？

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, where to begin? Well, the Turning Point USA Wikipedia entry got a very

00:00:06.240 interesting update the night after Charlie Kirk was murdered. A certain someone was mysteriously

00:00:13.460 added to the entry for the first time ever listed as a co-founder of one of their divisions. That's

00:00:19.980 interesting. I wonder who. Also, I was a bit taken aback. I was obviously away in Wyoming

00:00:27.640 when President Trump honored Charlie Kirk with his very own holiday as a posthumous birthday

00:00:33.760 present. But I was a little taken aback that people really believe that that would somehow

00:00:38.740 put an end to the conspiracies. Supposed to be over now because, look, Charlie Kirk Day.

00:00:44.240 OK, we'll see about that. And sticking with the Trump family, Don Trump Jr. has come out to share

00:00:50.920 his feelings regarding the FBI investigation. And man, oh, man, you guys, I just am wondering how

00:00:57.100 deep this thing really goes, because there is not a single member of the Trump family that could

00:01:01.960 have upset me more with his commentary than Don Trump Jr. Welcome back to Candace.

00:01:08.420 Let's start with one of my own back of head conspiracies, kind of a long running thought of mine,

00:01:28.000 actually, over the years. And it relates here to something interesting that I thought of after the

00:01:33.600 show yesterday that I wanted to share with you guys regarding Charlie as a child. Charlie was

00:01:38.560 obviously an extremely gifted child, so much so that he was hyperactive. He was actually always

00:01:43.460 hyperactive. That never went away. He couldn't sit down. He was never idle. He was always working.

00:01:47.720 But he was so gifted that, of course, doctors immediately wanted to put him on ADHD medicine

00:01:52.560 because, well, why is he so hyperactive? Something's wrong with him. Let's drug him.

00:01:57.360 And thankfully, Charlie's parents said, absolutely not. You're not drugging our son. He is actually,

00:02:03.680 in fact, gifted. And they instead opted to send him to a school for the gifted. That's my memory.

00:02:12.120 Charlie told me that story multiple times. I thought about that. This has just been in my mind lately,

00:02:16.740 living in my mind, because I truly believe that he was probably assigned like life handlers from that

00:02:25.080 moment on. Something probably takes place. If you go to a little X-Men school and they're seeing how

00:02:29.080 smart you are, you're a part of some program. I was an extraordinary learners as a kid, but I think

00:02:33.580 Charlie was in like a special X-Men school. They probably are monitoring those kids. I actually

00:02:38.300 believe that the reason that we have standardized tests is so that the government can track who is

00:02:43.540 performing above the standard, right? Who's performing above the average slave? You better keep an eye on

00:02:48.720 that one. Just my suspicion, my own personal conspiracy theory. I think when I'm a kid old enough to do

00:02:54.220 standardized tests, because even when you homeschool, you have to do standardized tests. I'm going to be

00:02:57.400 like, just get like a 70%. We don't want any government tracker sent on us. Anyways, I want to

00:03:06.200 jump back into the Turning Point USA story and tell you guys something that's been bothering me

00:03:13.520 about Rob McCoy. Stick on him. Other than the fact that he lies and he proclaims to be a pastor,

00:03:19.360 is the fact that less than 36 hours after Charlie died, less than 36 hours exact time at 1034 p.m.

00:03:29.640 Eastern on September 11th, the Turning Point USA Wikipedia received a rather interesting update.

00:03:38.140 Pastor Rob McCoy, who had previously never been featured on their Wikipedia page,

00:03:43.020 somehow got his own heading. Just amazing. Let's check out that fresh entry now. It reads,

00:03:52.140 Rob McCoy and Charlie Kirk founded Turning Point USA faith, TPUS faith, together, along with being a

00:03:59.360 Pentecostal pastor in the Calvary Chapel Association, McCoy is the co-chairman of TPUS faith. Aligned with the

00:04:07.940 Christian right, McCoy inspired Kirk to amalgamate Christianity and social conservatism. During the

00:04:15.660 COVID-19 pandemic, McCoy was known for speaking out against prohibitions on the holding of in-person

00:04:20.800 church services. Now, the hardest part of being me is that I came up to Turning Point USA, so I just

00:04:26.820 know these lies so quickly, okay? No, Rob McCoy was not the person who inspired Turning Point USA faith.

00:04:33.060 Actually, if anybody could be credited with that, that was like way back in the day at Liberty

00:04:38.020 University, actually. Those pastors, those conversations, I was there for thou. We should

00:04:42.480 do like a faith division, whatever it is. He didn't inspire it. And what's so interesting about that entry

00:04:47.940 is that when you then click it, this is how you know this is absurd. When you click the actual

00:04:53.820 notations that are there, when it says he's the co-founder, what are you talking about? Since when is he

00:04:59.100 the co-founder and also says that he was the chairman, when you click it, that article, which

00:05:05.020 they pretend is a no, hit the 54, Skylar, not 55, okay? That's from November 24th, 2024. That's the

00:05:12.560 justification for saying he was a founder. Nowhere in that article does it say that he's a founder or

00:05:16.480 the chairman. Nowhere. They just put a fake article, a real article that never said this. And they're

00:05:21.480 like, oh, now it's sourced. It's here forever because nobody ever does their homework. And Wikipedia,

00:05:25.560 Wikipedia, so you can't question this, obviously. And then you can see the second citations that are

00:05:31.720 used, September, the dates of them, September 10th, September 2025. So it's brand spanking new,

00:05:40.060 you guys. Still has tags on it. Less than 36 hours later. Now, you might be thinking, trying to justify

00:05:49.340 that, as I was, might be rationally wondering, well, look, there was a lot of interest in Turning

00:05:55.120 Point USA following this assassination. Maybe there wasn't any mention of Turning Point Faith

00:06:02.160 at all. And maybe what they did was afterwards, Wikipedia editors went in there and wanted to

00:06:07.560 just break apart every part and speak about Turning Point USA and dedicate more thorough

00:06:12.940 research to the various projects that Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk are working on. So they

00:06:17.260 included a new tab about Turning Point Faith. If you're wondering that, that's fair. But the answer

00:06:23.120 to that musing is no. Actually, there already was a longstanding section on the Wikipedia website

00:06:30.720 regarding Turning Point Faith on Wikipedia. In fact, that section is still available if you just scroll

00:06:36.620 down. And it kind of conflicts with the new section that was added 36 hours later. It makes it clear

00:06:42.340 that Charlie Kirk founded TPUSA Faith alone. Here it is. In 2021, Charlie Kirk founded TPUSA Faith,

00:06:51.380 an organization that says it is dedicated to recruit pastors and other church leaders to be active in

00:06:57.800 local and national political issues. The organization promotes a culture war agenda and is intended to

00:07:04.020 attract supporters among religious conservatives. Its activities include faith-based voter drives and

00:07:09.180 educating members on TPUSA core values. Now, you can keep reading here. There's no mention of McCoy.

00:07:16.460 So what this means practically is that when Charlie Kirk was alive, that is what the Wikipedia read.

00:07:23.040 And then he died and suddenly somebody in the world said, well, what about Rob McCoy? Let's add Rob

00:07:28.000 McCoy, who is not known worldwide. Okay, this is even before the memorial event. So you could maybe go,

00:07:34.020 oh, well, maybe once he hit the stage and said, I'm Charlie's pastor, somebody went in there and added it.

00:07:38.140 I don't know, guys. My question is, who made that update? Who was rather instructed to make that

00:07:46.840 update? Because I can tell you how it works for big companies. I was actually desperately looking

00:07:51.940 for a text from Charlie because I know he told me that they, Turning Point USA's organization,

00:07:59.120 had found a guy that could help clean up the Wikipedia pages, right? There are people that do this full

00:08:05.120 time and they're paid by bigger organizations to clean up their Wikipedia pages because I remember,

00:08:11.020 and I still have the messages, when we first had our pages, which were made by Wikipedia editors,

00:08:16.480 and they were horrific. They said terrible things about us. It was like, Candice is a racist,

00:08:20.120 white nationalist, a crazy person who hates BLM, but she hates women, you know, the whole gamut that

00:08:25.200 you're getting right now about me. And we were horrified when we looked at our Wikipedia pages.

00:08:30.080 And then some time passed and someone within the organization had found a person who could clean

00:08:37.180 up our Wikipedia pages, Charlie told me. And I cannot remember who that individual was. It'll come to me.

00:08:42.820 It'll actually come to me. But I'm just interested. Do you guys think that some random person got inspired

00:08:51.140 to include a whole heading of Rob McCoy 36 hours later? What do you guys think? I don't even think

00:08:58.900 they had even yet announced that Erica Kirk was the chairman and the CEO 36 hours later. Like,

00:09:04.320 that seems that early. Less than 36 hours, I should say, to be very clear. Less than 36 hours later.

00:09:10.160 I don't even think Charlie's body had returned back to Arizona. And yet somebody was dedicated to Rob

00:09:17.540 McCoy lying and claiming, this person who typed this, that he was the founder, the co-founder,

00:09:24.420 Charlie's pastor. No, he wasn't. The founder of TPUS Faith, the inspiration behind TPUS Faith.

00:09:30.600 No, he wasn't. He was one of the advisors put on the board of advisory for TPUS Faith. I know that

00:09:37.640 he gets paid by TPUS Faith upcoming pastor summits where they're going to teach other Christian

00:09:43.680 Zionist pastors how to use the Bible as a shield for their political ideas. You know, it says right

00:09:51.140 here in the Bible, unfollow Tucker Carlson. There's no other way that we can understand

00:09:56.380 Paul's letter to the Corinthians other than to unfollow Tucker Carlson. That's the vibe I'm getting,

00:10:01.620 the direction that Turning Point was going into. And Rob McCoy was definitively going to benefit

00:10:05.840 financially from that. But founder? Since when? Anyways, now let's turn our attention to other

00:10:14.220 allies. President Donald Trump. Of course, we have to arrive here because Charlie really loved Donald

00:10:20.000 J. Trump. OK, he loved him. It is unreal going through my messages to really consider how much

00:10:27.340 he dedicated his entire life to him. And I mean, sleepless nights wanting to ensure that he got a

00:10:35.820 reelected, reelected, midterm elections, hitting the ground, wearing a MAGA hat. We were everywhere.

00:10:42.760 I was on fire for Trump, too. I really believed in Trump. I really believed that if people could wake

00:10:49.100 up to how quickly the media turned on him, that it could be, you know, this conduit to Black Americans

00:10:56.020 understanding that we're being manipulated because my focus is all about Black America. Right.

00:11:00.180 And what I can say is that from the very moment that we learned the news that Charlie Kirk had passed,

00:11:10.820 I knew spiritually that we were never going to get the full story from officials. Right. Not from

00:11:19.980 officials. I can't explain it. I felt that way. And then when Trump rushed to tweet out that or

00:11:27.400 social truth social out that photo, an AI photo of him and Charlie with the star of David in the

00:11:36.920 background. I just knew. I just knew. I knew the investigation into who murdered Charlie Kirk

00:11:46.560 was officially over. Right. The officials wanted nothing to do with it because there was nobody

00:11:54.500 more psychotically insistent that people stop asking questions about Charlie's death immediately.

00:12:01.140 I mean, early hours. Right. Then the people that are dedicated to the Israel lobby. Right. These

00:12:07.620 individuals, if you go back, people that are pro-Israel for whatever reason, were like, do not look any

00:12:14.000 further into this death. In fact, I'll challenge you. Do me a favor. Find me one.

00:12:19.760 Just one real life pro-Israel individual who is expressing that they don't believe that Charlie

00:12:30.680 Kirk was killed by Tyler Robinson. The evidence is overwhelming that Tyler Robinson didn't act

00:12:35.700 alone, that Tyler Robinson didn't fire the shot, that Tyler Robinson didn't use a 30-odd six. Find me

00:12:40.980 just one person with the platform who's pro-Israel and says, I want this investigation into his death

00:12:48.400 to continue. It's a bit weird. Right. It's a bit weird. Dogs, very silent right now. Very, very

00:12:57.420 silent. And there's like a stake on the ground. They're not moving. It's very weird. They do,

00:13:03.380 all of them, however, I will say, want him to be honored. Right. Mostly by your money. They want you

00:13:10.180 to give to Turning Point USA. That's the best way, by the way, that you can honor him. Open up your

00:13:15.340 pocketbooks. They don't have enough money there. Right. Clearing like a hundred million a year.

00:13:18.720 They don't have enough. Open up your pockets. Keep his show going. And don't ask questions is

00:13:23.160 obviously the clearest way that we can honor Charlie Kirk. They want him lionized. And they did try to

00:13:30.600 lionize him immediately as the most Judeo-Christian goy ever. Right. He he was basic. Why not just put

00:13:38.480 him in a yarmulke and some of these AI photos? That would make more sense. The direction. I mean,

00:13:41.780 it's so instant. It's like just like trying to establish the legacy. Right. And keeping with

00:13:47.260 that, we want this to be honorific, not actually trying to solve what happened here. For Charlie's

00:13:54.440 birthday, President Trump signed into law or established rather a holiday. And he decided

00:14:02.640 that October 14th, which is Charlie Kirk's birthday, would be a national day of remembrance

00:14:07.920 for Charlie Kirk. OK. And I'm gonna tell you how I feel about that. Truly Zionist that infiltrated

00:14:15.540 my book club. You did not need to pay the $9.99 to find out how I feel about this. I don't know why

00:14:22.180 people think I'm hiding how I feel. It's very weird. Like, when did people go? We have to try to

00:14:27.240 listen in to hear what she really thinks. I'll tell you what I really think. I think it's crap.

00:14:32.960 OK. What I said in my book club holds. It's never good when the feds are lining up to give you a

00:14:39.440 holiday. Not good. You know, Martin Luther King vibes. I don't Martin Luther King Jr. I think

00:14:44.820 maybe the feds definitely killed Martin Luther King Jr. But we, oh, in school, we get to learn

00:14:51.020 about him. He's got this whole holiday. Oh, he was such a great. I loved that. I have a dream speech.

00:14:56.400 Oh, the feds. Oh, man, you're good. You were so great. It's unfortunate that we had to murder you.

00:15:01.780 I don't like it. Because the best way to honor Charlie Kirk is very obvious.

00:15:07.200 Figure out who killed him first. Let's celebrate the holiday later. I want to figure out who killed

00:15:14.400 him first. And so I'm struck by this. I'm struck by Trump and the lack of demand, the lack of pushing

00:15:22.100 on the narrative. Trump has really represented himself, at least me, someone who voted for him

00:15:27.220 twice. He represented himself as an individual who didn't trust the federal establishment.

00:15:33.940 This feels like an easy layup here. You're a friend. He viewed you in many ways like a father

00:15:39.700 figure, right? Hey, feds, what's going on here? And I said, maybe he did, because I was in this

00:15:47.160 aggrieved stage. And I really didn't poke my head up until weeks later when I could stop crying about it

00:15:55.520 every second. And I said, maybe I missed it. Maybe Trump did actually say this is crap. Maybe he did

00:16:01.800 call for an investigation. And we did a search on Truth Social to see how many times President Trump

00:16:06.220 tweeted or Truth Social calling for further investigation into Charlie Kirk's murder. And there

00:16:12.480 was only one tweet that we could find to that effect. And this tweet is not what I would describe

00:16:19.120 as him calling for an investigation into Charlie Kirk's murder, actually. Here it is. This is the

00:16:25.040 only one we could find. Why was the wonderful turning point under investigation by deranged Jack

00:16:31.440 Smith and the corrupt and incompetent Biden administration? They tried to force Charlie

00:16:36.020 and many other people and movements out of business. They weaponized the Justice Department

00:16:40.160 against sleepy Joe Biden's political opponents, including me. They allowed the daughter of a judge

00:16:47.320 of one of the corrupt trials against me to become the biggest fundraiser for Biden and Kamala,

00:16:51.760 making millions of dollars for herself and her family. But with her father, the judge,

00:16:56.660 not only refusing to recuse himself, but putting a gag order on me, not allowing any talk about their

00:17:02.500 family corruption and unprecedented conflict of interest. That's not going to age well, the gag order

00:17:07.260 thing, is it? Every leading legal analyst and pundit said this trial was wrong and should not have been

00:17:12.240 allowed to go forward. But it did because of a corrupt judge who will hopefully pay a very big

00:17:17.660 price for his illegal action someday.

00:17:23.420 Okay. Scale of one to ten, how much is that do you feel about Charlie Kirk?

00:17:27.780 Like, I don't know. I don't know what to think of that. I don't know what to make of that.

00:17:31.400 Like I said, it's pretty obvious. They want us to just look at everything and go, case closed.

00:17:36.940 Don't you see? We're all united. We're standing up here. We're giving him a holiday. We're signing

00:17:43.440 that. And we've got all these photographers here, the Turning Point chief fundraiser lady here,

00:17:49.660 and she's crying. So obviously she loved Charlie. Cash Patel was there. Of all the people.

00:17:57.680 Unbelievable to me. They're here. Cash Patel's here. So you can see we're all united.

00:18:02.240 You can totally trust the FBI science now. We're ruling out corruption.

00:18:05.820 That's why we don't know what Jeffrey Epstein files are talking about.

00:18:09.480 Because all we had to do was win against Democrats and corruption would be over.

00:18:14.400 Are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? I'm sorry.

00:18:17.660 You know, I've realized something actually and truly. They made,

00:18:21.520 in retrospect, the absolute best decision not inviting me to speak at Charlie's Memorial.

00:18:28.920 Like, kudos to whoever made that call. Because I would have just been on my best Kanye. I would

00:18:36.340 have jumped on stage and just grabbed the mic from Susie Wiles or someone. Are you kidding me?

00:18:41.580 What is going on here? What is happening? Even Trump's speech. Remember when he just kind of

00:18:47.180 worked in the story about Charlie interviewing a fourth grader and he was referring to Breeland Holland?

00:18:53.160 And I'm saying Holland, by the way, because that was his name when Charlie interviewed him.

00:18:59.280 Because Trump wasn't there. Nothing to do with Trump. When Charlie went on that fourth grader's

00:19:04.160 podcast, his name was Breeland Holland. And I was next to him. It was me and Charlie. What a weird

00:19:09.720 story for Trump to just obscurely pluck out of thin air to say on stage at his memorial. He wasn't there.

00:19:16.040 He had nothing to do with him. The kid had some connections and, of course, was really sweet and

00:19:22.600 adorable and in fourth grade and super polite and energetic and was like, I'd love to interview you.

00:19:26.760 I can't remember who the guy was who was his dad. I got him the interview with us. And all of a

00:19:30.720 sudden, Trump's just saying this story on stage at Charlie's Memorial as if he was there. And he

00:19:36.180 wasn't. So what's going on? Regarding Kash Patel showing his face there, I legitimately do not know how

00:19:45.200 these people do it. I would literally die from shame. I would pass away immediately from shame

00:19:52.960 before I would show up to that event if I was Kash Patel. Did they breed it out? Is this a new breed

00:19:59.200 of human that I don't know about where you feel nothing? There's just nothing. It's like a Josh

00:20:03.460 Hammer thing. They don't feel any sense of shame at all. And they can just go, go, go, go, go and

00:20:09.940 pretend that you're honoring. I don't understand it. I truly don't understand it because I have to be a

00:20:14.720 different species from whatever that is. I would melt. I'd rather melt at the floor than show my

00:20:20.100 face knowing how badly I was dropping the ball. The whole world knows dropping the ball.

00:20:25.860 How do you show up to work, Kash Patel? And the answer is he shows up to work and he demands that

00:20:31.720 everybody stop looking into it because he's got it under control. He wants to be, he's got a very

00:20:35.520 small team of people at the FBI that are allowed to touch anything pertaining to the Charlie Kirk case

00:20:40.380 because, you know, this is transparency. Finally, the adults are in charge and it's going to be the

00:20:45.840 most transparent administration ever, except on the Jeffrey Epstein stuff or the Charlie Kirk stuff,

00:20:51.540 who was a friend of the administration. That's, we got to be a little bit opaque on. Real headline,

00:20:57.340 New York Times yesterday pertaining to how upset Kash Patel was when he received an inquiry

00:21:05.380 from Joe Kent, Tulsi Gabbard's office. They lead the National Counterterrorism, okay, center. Joe Kent

00:21:12.800 does. And him inquiring about details into this apparently alarmed Kash Patel. He says Kash Patel

00:21:18.820 was alarmed. He called a meeting, in fact, right? He wanted to investigate the assassination from

00:21:25.100 pertaining to Joe Kent. They were like, hey, maybe people overseas were involved in his murder.

00:21:30.900 Maybe they were thinking, Bibi's saying too much. Can we look, can we just look at these files

00:21:36.400 because it's our job, overseas terrorism? And Kash Patel was so alarmed by this, so alarmed that they

00:21:42.100 would look into these files that he held a meeting apparently. Whoa, what are you, this is not

00:21:47.300 appropriate. It's not appropriate for you to be looking into this, okay? We don't want you knowing

00:21:52.380 whether or not there was a foreign power or another entity that was involved in this. And this is the

00:21:58.900 reason that Kash Patel decided to have a meeting with Susie Wiles and Joe Kent and Tulsi Gabbard and

00:22:05.000 Trump officials. I think it said J.D. Vance was in this meeting as well and nothing was accomplished

00:22:09.140 because why wouldn't you, if you're the most transparent administration ever, share, get the

00:22:14.400 help? Hey, we're supposed to be partners in this. Don't we all want to find out who killed Charlie

00:22:18.820 Kirk? And the answer is no, we don't all want to find out who killed Charlie Kirk. I think that's

00:22:24.720 apparent, right? It's pretty obvious that we do not all want to find out who murdered Charlie Kirk

00:22:31.700 because they're not acting right. Nobody is acting right right now. And it's stunning. We are making

00:22:39.080 so many discoveries in this case. And I have to tell you guys, we're getting close. We're getting low.

00:22:45.100 Very close, I think, to what actually happened on that day. And I'm getting the suspicion that there

00:22:51.620 were some foreign entities involved. So Joe Kent, Tulsi Gabbard, you guys, by any chance, see this

00:22:57.200 episode. Keep going, right? We're just going very slowly here. Set the bait. We're going to see who

00:23:03.420 lies about what. And when we get back from this break, I'm going to tell you another stunning

00:23:07.960 turning point lie that came out. And you're going to start feeling some type of way about the people

00:23:14.580 who are all apparently mourning him. And the best way to mourn, of course, is to lie.

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00:26:46.400 All right, so Mikey McCoy is missing from the Charlie Kirk show. He seemed very happy to jump in that seat

00:26:54.400 thereafter. I think we were all expecting, after this video went viral, that we would hear from

00:26:58.920 him regarding his actions there as soon as Charlie got shot. We were told by Andrew Colvett,

00:27:04.560 who is now missing from today's episode of the Charlie Kirk show, that it was because Charlie was

00:27:09.660 very explicit. Charlie was very explicit. Charlie said, if I ever get shot at an event, the left side

00:27:16.240 of my neck, the first thing I want you to do is not help me, okay? And how could we not do anything

00:27:24.080 but trust the science here? We just got to trust the science. We'll never know, okay? Because I

00:27:28.000 guess they're not going to show us call logs. They're not going to do anything. Just easily put

00:27:30.620 away any of these quote-unquote conspiracies that are unhealthy. I wanted to show you this comment.

00:27:37.140 It was actually under his show yesterday. It actually might have been the day before that,

00:27:40.460 regarding Charlie's unique instructions to his friends, right? This is a comment. Charlie's

00:27:46.520 instructions are actually insane. Number one, leave me with no help or first aid. That is true. He was

00:27:52.080 not administered any first aid. I have the close-up videos of that. Very strange to me because that's

00:27:55.680 what they're supposed to be experts in. No gauze, taking out nothing, not even securing the wound as

00:28:00.920 they carried him to the hospital. And I do not accept, by the way, that it was because things were crazy.

00:28:07.320 He literally pays you millions of dollars of years to know what to do, security team,

00:28:12.880 when things are crazy. Are you still employed? Did you fail at your one job? I don't know. I don't

00:28:17.480 know. We're going to find out. Anyways, his second instruction, this lady writes, film your reaction

00:28:22.320 in selfie mode. Charlie must have wanted it. It's what he would have wanted, I think. He wants,

00:28:27.500 he would have wanted it. I don't know. Three, take all the SD cards just in case. Secure the footage

00:28:33.840 and never reveal it to anyone but the feds who have always been so trustworthy. And four,

00:28:41.500 quickly cover the scene in case anybody wants to get justice for me. Yeah, that really is,

00:28:47.260 those are some instructions. Did Charlie Kirk have any real friends? What do you guys think? Because

00:28:53.940 the more that time goes by, the more upset I am at everyone who's lying about every little thing.

00:29:01.120 And I wouldn't mean literally little things, right? Not even the big things, but the little

00:29:06.040 things. That's why the Catholic point made me so upset when I very gently said, oh, we thought he

00:29:17.180 was close to converting. He was going to the mass. And then suddenly Operation Mocking Pastor or Mocking

00:29:21.920 Evangelical Influencer went out and they all were like, that's not true. That's not true. And I'm like,

00:29:26.360 what do you mean it's not true? Don't be absurd. Don't be absurd. Why lie? I reflect on that moment

00:29:32.940 and I think it was right after Memorial Service, a couple of days after the Memorial Service where

00:29:37.220 Alex Clark released that interview with her and Andrew Colvett and they struggle sessioned through

00:29:41.560 that. They were like, no, no, they were both committed evangelicals and they, him and Erica and

00:29:47.060 they, he liked the smells, smells in the bells. He loved the architecture, but there was no more

00:29:53.280 substance for him. I really struggled with that. And I struggle with it even more now that I know

00:29:59.380 that Charlie Kirk has a lot of questions about what about his burial? How come we haven't seen

00:30:04.900 anything about his burial? We saw so much and then we saw nothing. And the reason that's like a big

00:30:09.500 hush-hush secret is because Charlie had a Catholic funeral mass and he is buried in a Catholic cemetery.

00:30:19.240 Yeah. Yeah. He, it was, but really it was about the architecture. I want you to understand

00:30:25.680 why the little lies. I think we can only speculate that it's because they're worried about the money,

00:30:38.060 right? They do not want to upset the very same people who were pressuring Charlie Kirk. And I love

00:30:44.820 when they say, Oh, another thing Andrew said in that interview, they're only a small portion of

00:30:49.740 our donors relative to the rest of our donors. Okay. But are they cutting the bigger checks?

00:30:55.040 Like Bob Shulman took $2 million away. That's got to mean something. If you brought in 70 million last

00:31:00.360 year and he took in, took away 2 million, just like that. Are they cutting the bigger checks?

00:31:05.340 Cause then it's relevant. And I think the answer to that is yes. I think they insisted and are

00:31:09.980 pressuring them as we are hearing to maintain the idea that Charlie died pro-Israel. But to do that,

00:31:18.060 to have the stomach to do that, to know that you knew where he was buried and attended that mass

00:31:27.240 and you had the stomach to sit down and to gaslight me. That's what you did. You were,

00:31:33.420 you were gaslighting me actually. Me, right? Didn't say my name, but you referring to me,

00:31:38.320 right? Oh no, he was, he was just the most committed evangelical. What's wrong with everybody?

00:31:43.180 Why does nobody have just the, I don't know, the spirit moving within them? Just like, I don't know.

00:31:49.540 I would just be sickened, sickened with myself. I can't lie like that. I can't lie anywhere close

00:31:56.760 to that. I can't even fib. And you're able to just sit up there like a soldier and just

00:32:02.880 delude everybody, delude the masses and, and sometimes do it through tears to be extra

00:32:07.800 convincing. That's, that's crazy to me. It's wild to me. Speaking on the note of who his friends are,

00:32:12.640 I will tell you there was no one, like I said, at the top of the show that could have upset me more

00:32:16.780 than Don Jr. Okay. Don Jr. was one of Charlie's friends, like brother, literally a brother. Don Jr.,

00:32:25.720 by the way, I would say was one of the people who very much helped to build Turning Point USA.

00:32:29.720 Okay. He was there. Okay. He did a ton of college campus events with me and Charlie. And we were

00:32:36.460 always so grateful. Uh, my, I remember when Don Jr. started following me, I have the tech messages

00:32:42.060 with Charlie. I was like, oh my, Don Jr. is following me. This is amazing. He would retweet me.

00:32:47.740 The beginning of the Canada story includes Don Trump Jr. being probably, without question,

00:32:53.480 actually, the most committed Trump family member to Turning Point USA's early story. Okay.

00:33:00.720 And like I said, I know how Charlie felt about Don Trump Jr. So when Megyn Kelly, um, asked him

00:33:06.880 what he thought about the investigation into Charlie's assassination, I was expecting him to say,

00:33:15.780 I think it's crap. That is not what he said. In fact, he did his best not to answer the question,

00:33:20.700 as you'll see. And then Megyn Kelly holds him to it. And then you'll hear what he says. Take a listen.

00:33:24.440 How do you feel about the investigation into Charlie's death? Can we have faith in it? Do

00:33:29.880 you feel like it's being well handled?

00:33:31.600 Uh, so far, listen, so far, so good. I think, you know, I've had this conversation with a lot

00:33:37.680 of the guys that have been, you know, very involved from the beginning and, uh, you know,

00:33:41.160 others that are a big part of that movement that are, you know, are going to take, you know,

00:33:44.840 more of a role, you know, you know, guys like JD, like, Hey, he believes we have to keep this going

00:33:49.200 people, you know, myself, Hey, I got to do, I did a lot of them, but I got to do even more.

00:33:53.260 We got to keep this going. There's not, there's never going to be a replacement for Charlie

00:33:57.060 Kirk. You can't plug that in, but if we can find 10 people that can do 10% of what he did

00:34:01.780 and they go all in, uh, and do that, we can keep that alive. And honestly, we all owe that

00:34:07.740 to him.

00:34:08.620 Just to round back. Do you, do you have confidence in the investigation? Should we have confidence

00:34:12.840 in this FBI investigating?

00:34:15.040 I do, you know, and I, I, I mean, I don't know. I don't, I don't, I don't like it when the

00:34:19.740 people have the private, you know, but I've spoken to everyone, you know, around and you

00:34:24.520 know, Erica, I like, like I, I do have confidence. And you know, when I start seeing some of

00:34:29.980 the other stuff, it's like, man. And, and by the way, just so we're clear, as you all

00:34:33.840 probably know, if you're here, you probably follow me a little bit. Like I'm about as

00:34:38.120 conspiratorial as it gets within the realm of sanity for good cause. Right. I think I

00:34:43.000 was the guy that first said like the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth is

00:34:46.300 usually about six months. Uh, you know, I was the guy canceled for pushing all of the

00:34:51.120 obvious things that were conspiracy theories that, you know, Wuhan or whatever it may

00:34:54.460 be, you know, lab virus leak, you know, the problem is that there, there is a cottage

00:35:00.340 industry of just clicks and people that are more than happy to, you know, to profiteer,

00:35:05.080 you know, off of that. Again, that I'm not saying that a lot of this stuff isn't real

00:35:09.420 and isn't true. And I've been pushing all of that, but some of the stuff does get a

00:35:13.360 little bit off the rails. And I think, you know, you're, you're really, it's been used

00:35:17.900 even by the other side as a way to distract from the bigger picture of what happened to

00:35:22.740 him, of what the other side has proven that they are actually willing to do.

00:35:30.560 Man. Oh man. So much. I want to say that clip. Okay. The first thing that I want to say

00:35:35.220 is that Don Trump Jr. is not a bad guy, a bad guy. Don Trump Jr. is probably maybe akin in

00:35:44.040 some ways to Mikey McCoy. I look at Mikey McCoy. I don't know Mikey McCoy at all. And

00:35:48.800 I don't think he's an evil person. I think he is in the shadow of his father, right? I

00:35:54.040 think he's in the shadow of his father. I think Don Jr. has been probably in the shadow

00:35:57.680 of his father his entire life because what he's saying when he begins to credentialize

00:36:01.780 himself and said, oh, I was up at the Wuhan, I said this about COVID, blah, blah. That's

00:36:05.760 all true. That's the real Don Trump Jr. He was actually one of the people that was the

00:36:10.740 most vocal about the Jeffrey Epstein files until dad said, are we still talking about

00:36:17.340 Jeffrey Epstein? Right. And that's what I mean when I say someone who is in the shadow

00:36:22.000 of his father. And it's a tough situation to be in. So I do want to be charitable in terms

00:36:28.540 of thinking of that particular dynamic when dad is saying this needs to be done and you

00:36:34.540 have to carry on knowing that you had a real relationship with Charlie because you did have

00:36:38.600 a real relationship with Charlie. But Don, from me to you, it's better to say nothing.

00:36:49.120 Okay. It's better to say, I'm just not going to answer that question. The best way you could

00:36:55.780 honor Charlie Kirk if you can't fight for him for some reason is to simply say nothing.

00:37:02.760 Because I looked at this clip and it bothered me for a lot of reasons, Don, because I know

00:37:05.880 who you are and know who you are. You're a hunter. You love to hunt, Don. Right. Every

00:37:11.980 picture of you, you're in the wilderness your whole life. You love to be in the wild. In

00:37:16.540 fact, you taught me a lot about the wild and a lot about hunting. And my favorite fishing

00:37:22.080 experience is actually with you. Right. Fighting back the sea lions or the seals in British Columbia.

00:37:28.620 You know nature. And I'm not going to ask you to go against the nature of honoring your father.

00:37:35.700 But I am going to ask you not to lie. And as a hunter, you are not lying. And this is truly what

00:37:42.700 you believe. You trust the investigation. I'm going to need you to make a video saying that you believe

00:37:48.420 that Charlie was shot by a 30-06 in the neck. And that somehow, through the miracle of God,

00:37:56.800 Charlie's neck stopped a 30-06. Not only stopped a 30-06, but was pretty much in good shape. Not

00:38:04.320 even destroyed. His neck was not even destroyed by a 30-06. That kind of a miracle, Don.

00:38:12.200 You know hunting. You know guns. And so I'm asking you, if this is truly what you believe,

00:38:17.140 to clarify that matter, make a video. Sit down with me. Look me in the eye and say,

00:38:23.100 Candace, I really do think that Charlie, our friend, because you are his friend, you were his

00:38:30.280 brother, stopped a 30-06 with his neck, which stayed intact. You won't say that, Don. You won't

00:38:41.860 say that because it's untrue. And I think that spiritually, it would mess with you. And the hunters

00:38:45.840 that are listening know that you don't believe that. You know too much. Okay? So again, I'm going

00:38:51.940 to ask you, if you cannot say anything, I understand the ties that bind. I understand Jared and Ivanka

00:38:58.100 and their investments in Israel and the pressure that's coming from the Zionists, to simply be

00:39:03.540 quiet. As his other brothers and sisters and people in the movement, people who don't even know Charlie,

00:39:09.900 get to the bottom of this. Because everything we're being sold is absolute BS. That's my request

00:39:16.140 to you, Don. Anyways, moving on from that, I do, on the topic of Israel, want to let you know that I

00:39:23.060 was very excited to sit down and have a conversation, which we will be releasing on Friday with Norman

00:39:30.020 Finkelstein. Norman Finkelstein was probably the single greatest contributor to me being sort of just

00:39:38.040 smacked in the gut about Gaza, learning about Gaza. I think most people didn't know, genuinely like

00:39:46.060 me, just did not know anything about the history of Gaza, knew nothing about it because it has been

00:39:51.320 such a censored topic in America. And we were all told that, you know, it was our job after all of

00:39:57.800 the Holocaust movies and the Holocaust indoctrination that took place in the school system to be triggered

00:40:03.680 at the idea that anybody could have a thought against the modern state of Israel, which is only

00:40:09.320 there because six million Jews perished in the Holocaust. We all grew up with that, right?

00:40:15.440 We grew up being indoctrinated not to ask a single question when it comes to Israel. That's the reality.

00:40:21.460 And Norm Finkelstein, whose parents survived, one of his parents survived Auschwitz, was the reason I

00:40:29.580 had him on my show right after October 7th, sometime shortly thereafter, when I was at the Daily Wire.

00:40:33.860 And what he told me horrified me, and it pushed me to become more educated on the topic. And I was

00:40:38.320 so grateful that I was able to sit down with him again, this time on my totally owned, owned show.

00:40:45.520 And I'm just going to show you a little trailer for that. Take a listen.

00:40:50.340 The Economist magazine, it describes Gaza as, quote, a human rubbish heap.

00:40:56.100 The leading U.N. official on Gaza describes it as, quote, a toxic dump. For the people of Israel,

00:41:08.400 Gazans are vermin. They're garbage. They're human refuse.

00:41:15.160 You guys were the ones that insisted, insisted that we all have a perspective on October 7th.

00:41:22.100 Then when we looked and we pierced that veil, we went, oh my goodness, how was I ever perished you?

00:41:28.860 And now you want us to shut up.

00:41:30.840 There's a problem here. A billionaire class of Jewish supremacists are now flagrantly using money

00:41:42.320 as a blackmail weapon to silence not just criticism of Jews, but silence criticism of an ongoing genocide.

00:41:55.400 You guys, it is a deeply informative interview. We did just over two hours discussing everything.

00:42:10.960 And if you are someone who you're in limbo on the topic, I was certainly in limbo on the topic a couple

00:42:15.500 of years ago. I no longer am in limbo. And you want to hear it from somebody who both has the

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00:46:04.440 All right. So yesterday in the comments, we had a few people who were asking about the new relic

00:46:10.320 behind me, and I can tell you quickly how I got it. Obviously, it is new. When we were in Wyoming,

00:46:16.400 we traveled with priests. It's something that my husband and I began doing last year,

00:46:21.140 the year before last year, and it has enriched our experience traveling as a family and kind of

00:46:26.760 checking in with yourself and thinking through things theologically and also feeling a sense of

00:46:31.220 protection to be able to pray. I know that I have received so many emails from people and comments

00:46:36.940 from people who felt compelled for some reason that you didn't even know. People said, I haven't

00:46:42.140 gone to church in 45 years, and after I watched Charlie be assassinated, I knew that I needed to go to

00:46:46.900 church. Don't ignore that, okay? You are not like a paper bag floating in the wind, like Katy Perry's

00:46:54.500 song said. You do have a spirit, and what you are pulling, everyone feels that we are in some sort

00:47:01.340 of a spiritual battle now. You're starting to wake up. I feel a lot of people right now are starting to

00:47:04.760 wake up and realize something is wrong. I mean, people are asking, do we live in a matrix? Do we

00:47:08.680 live in a military-industrial complex? You recognize something is very wrong. Do not ignore your gut on

00:47:14.180 that, okay? You do not descend from homo sapien, australopithecus. That is not the story of man.

00:47:21.280 That is not the story of man. That is not where you are from. Like I said, you have a spirit,

00:47:24.000 and there is more. There is more. Of course, there is more. Of course, there is life after

00:47:28.640 death, okay? And the idea that they want you to believe is, no, no, no, this is it. You're here

00:47:36.840 for about 80 years, so you just better be selfish and allow us to enslave you here, where we have

00:47:44.440 dominion. I'm talking about these demons that we are fighting, where we have dominion by getting you

00:47:48.860 to compromise your values, compromise who you are, to sell your soul in some circumstances, right?

00:47:55.940 That's not an expression. People, we have observed this, have literally sold their souls. They don't

00:48:01.480 understand that. They won't understand that until they die. They'll realize what that actually means.

00:48:05.240 They'll understand that hell is for an eternity, okay? And how we got here, okay, that the story

00:48:12.320 of St. Michael leading the angels in heaven, the great battle in heaven, knocking Satan and the

00:48:19.760 angels that were behind him down to the earth, that is all very real. And St. Michael is a prayer

00:48:24.880 of protection that I feel is very powerful. It's a very powerful prayer that we say every Sunday at

00:48:31.840 Mass. And I think that, you know, just the way it starts, St. Michael, defend us in battle.

00:48:38.220 Be our protection against the wickedness and the snares of the devil. May God rebuke him,

00:48:45.800 we humbly pray. And do thou, O Prince of heavenly hosts, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan

00:48:53.940 and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruins of soul. Amen. It's a powerful

00:49:01.500 prayer. And we're there. We need protection, okay? But I do think that once again, goodness,

00:49:10.080 light is going to win. I feel that. And a lot of you feel that. And I'm loving your emails telling

00:49:14.480 me about your dreams. People in Turning Point had dreams. There was one young woman who emailed me

00:49:19.380 and said, Candice, like, I just have to tell you, the week leading up to this, I had a very vivid dream

00:49:24.680 about so-and-so at the company and six snakes that were around him. And I didn't know that Charlie was

00:49:31.160 going to be assassinated. And this person recounted their dream in detail. And there was many people

00:49:36.780 who dreamed for whatever reason, the number six was in their dreams in terms of the weapon, whatever

00:49:41.660 it was, it was six, six that was appearing. And so I'm kind of going by a vibe that there may be six

00:49:47.900 people who betrayed him by the end of this, because there was one too many dreams to that effect from

00:49:53.420 people around the world. Trust your gut. Don't ignore your dreams. Don't ignore your intuition.

00:49:58.320 Anyway, some more comments that we have here. Max Hardy writes, hey, Candice, I'm 16 and

00:50:04.660 homeschooled. I watch every episode. We are praying for your protection. I just got black out the book

00:50:10.280 finishing the college scam. And then I will definitely have to get Josh Hammer's book because

00:50:14.180 Charlie supported it and just wanted everybody to read it. No, of course, Del, like, obviously. Are you

00:50:17.640 kidding me? Like, ASAP. That was, it was, it was basically his last words, right? And then, you know,

00:50:22.680 that was what he said, Josh Hammer, sell your book no matter what, man. Also on his list of

00:50:26.200 instructions. Maria Garcia writes, Candice, what does it mean to be Charlie's David? I think it

00:50:32.440 probably means that we got to slay some Goliaths. God, may God bless you. Who knows? I mean, I never,

00:50:40.220 we never could have imagined the weight of what his dreams were. But I think what I take from it and what

00:50:47.020 I understood and why it brought me to tears when I realized that this, this moment happened is he knew

00:50:52.500 his life was going to be short and he knew that for whatever reason I was going to be the only one

00:50:57.680 that defended him publicly. That would, that would go to war with everyone. And I mean that with

00:51:03.040 everyone. I just don't care. You don't get to do this. You don't get to force me to watch someone

00:51:09.020 that I came up with catch a bullet in his throat and then tell me to shut up. Okay. There's got to be

00:51:13.340 rules here. You don't get to do this and you're losing. You feel that, right? You feel the energy is not

00:51:21.320 behind you. There's a reason for that. There isn't any energy behind you. The energy is not

00:51:27.700 going to follow darkness. It's just, it's just not. Tdos writes, I wore my Candace CIA sweater in

00:51:33.000 public today. A woman came up to me and called me brave and said, good for you. I love it. In that

00:51:36.440 moment, I was so proud to be on the side of truth. Keep going and don't stop. You are so supported.

00:51:41.000 I know, I know that I am not supported by the people in suits. I know I am not supported by,

00:51:44.920 you know, Susie Wiles Whitehouse. I know that I am not supported by the donors, the big donors,

00:51:52.000 the Jewish donors at Turning Point USA who are pressuring Charlie, but I know that none of that

00:51:57.660 matters. None of that actually matters. And guess what? I didn't sell my soul. Didn't sell my soul.

00:52:05.680 And all I'm trying to do is to get into heaven and hope that I see my friend again. Christine Jones

00:52:11.900 writes, TPUSA died with Charlie. I mean, I've seen a lot of your comments about like the show is not

00:52:16.220 the same and it's because nothing can survive when it is being choked by lies. And that's ultimately

00:52:22.220 what I hope for these people. Going back to my point that I actually don't believe in the death

00:52:27.060 penalty because it's too easy. For the people who didn't kill Charlie, but perhaps betrayed him before

00:52:32.940 or after, because I feel like accepting this bogus narrative is an act of betrayal. I want these people

00:52:40.320 to go through the rest of their lives, long lives. I want them to have long lives actually. And in every

00:52:48.100 room they walk in, it's suffocating, you know, suffocated by people's looks, people's thoughts.

00:52:55.900 They can feel the energy of people knowing you too. We know. I want them to feel that energy.

00:53:03.820 It doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter what promotion you get, what title you have,

00:53:08.980 what chief you are, people around you in every room you walk into, know, right? They don't know,

00:53:19.620 know, but they know. And that should mean everything. Melanie Smiles writes, Candice,

00:53:25.880 this is bigger than what the world thinks. Charlie knew you understood the assignment. Charlie's David,

00:53:29.780 you are chosen for such a time as this. God will protect you. Nothing will harm you.

00:53:34.700 Bays writes, the fact that they tried to pass that off as a wound from a 30-06 just tells us

00:53:39.760 how stupid they think that we really are. They overestimated those Maxwell published textbooks

00:53:44.380 that they tried to indoctrinate us with. I'm glad people are waking up. Yeah, if you don't know what

00:53:48.720 he's referencing, Ghislaine Maxwell's father did indeed begin alongside, I think it was Macmillan,

00:53:54.420 don't quote me. It was like Maxwell Macmillan publishing our textbooks coming from,

00:53:59.200 the Jeffrey Epstein empire is kind of amazing. We discussed this in our Epstein series. If you'd

00:54:04.820 like to go back and watch that, we've saved that on YouTube as one of the series. And it's a good

00:54:09.960 one to go through. You just start to understand how this all works. Julie writes, Tucker Carlson

00:54:14.200 interviewed the original creator of Wikipedia. It's totally corrupt now, according to him. And he got

00:54:18.440 pushed out. Now he got, it was always corrupt. I mean, we showed you that video of the, at the time,

00:54:25.760 he was not the prime minister of Israel, but he became the prime minister of Israel. And he showed

00:54:29.860 how they were training people to edit articles on Wikipedia so that it favored Zionists and the

00:54:35.580 Zionist cause. And it was just like, it's, it's an incredible clip. You got, you got to find it.

00:54:40.080 We've showed it a few times, but it's there. It's so Israel. It's incredible. Timothy writes,

00:54:46.880 the effort to discredit you, Candace, for noticing so much is revealing. Any logical person without an

00:54:52.660 agenda thinks and says the same things that you do. It just makes too much sense. And they are down

00:54:57.280 right evil. Yeah. And the psychology of it is just painstaking, right? It's like, if you care,

00:55:04.440 you like porn. If you care, you just want clicks. If you care, like trying to make us dirty.

00:55:12.140 It's just nonsense. It's like I said, we have to steal ourselves against their psychology. These are

00:55:17.300 like military psychological operations. It's why they need bots on the internet, which they're doing.

00:55:22.980 As we learned, uh, they're buying so many bots on the internet. It's a stake that Israel is taking.

00:55:28.020 It's why they want TikTok because they want you to feel that pressure that Charlie felt like everyone

00:55:32.620 thinks this, but you. So you feel isolated. The goal of that is isolation. It's psych. It's a

00:55:36.600 psychological component. You are isolated in your opinion. So stop saying that opinion,

00:55:40.580 you know, do what the rest of everybody does. Everybody here loves Israel. It's just you

00:55:45.200 that doesn't love it. So something's wrong with you. It's exact same thing here. No.

00:55:50.420 Let me tell you something right now. We are the majority. It is so obvious to me.

00:55:55.580 Melanie writes in conclusion, Candice, this is bigger. Oh, actually you already wrote that.

00:55:59.220 This is bigger than what the world thinks. And I absolutely believe that you guys,

00:56:02.220 if you'd like to support our continued work, I tell you, you're going to love this one.

00:56:05.620 I'm very proud of this. Tag me if you got this book. It makes me very excited.

00:56:09.400 You can go to makehimasandwich.com to buy your copy of the book. I think I should probably do

00:56:13.480 some signed ones too. I'll do that before Christmas. Savannah, if you want to make a note

00:56:17.540 for that, makehimasandwich.com to read this book on feminism, which I think is a very important

00:56:23.580 component of this and learning the origins of the feminist movement, which of course had

00:56:28.780 nothing to do with wanting to support women. Actually, it was a government initiative sponsored

00:56:33.300 by the children of Bolsheviks, obviously. And beyond that, you can head to CandiceOwns.com,

00:56:40.340 buy yourself some gear, some CIA gear. We don't know, no, but we do know. And we have restocked

00:56:48.100 our Standis Cups to that effect. So thank you guys so much for all the support. I am remarkably

00:56:53.160 clear-minded on this. I'm actually very positive on this. My dreams have been positive. And I know

00:57:00.660 that we are moving, we're inching ever closer to learning the truth about what happened. And it is

00:57:06.440 going to, when the world learns the truth, it is going to have a drastic effect upon humanity.

00:57:14.200 So Charlie did not die in vain. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

Candace Owens - October 29, 2025

Why Isn't The Trump Family Asking Questions About Charlie Kirk？｜ Candace Ep 254

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