Classically Abby - Candace Owens Reveals Why She REJECTS Feminism! ｜｜ Let's Be Classic #3

00:00:00.000 I've always tried to show people that I'm so imperfect, but I am not, I have made every

00:00:05.020 mistake. I always say I took the most liberal route to conservatism. I hear it where I ended,

00:00:11.120 but like I took the most liberal route to get there. And eventually I realized here are the

00:00:15.540 things that make me feel good. Here are the things that make me feel bad. And that really is,

00:00:19.360 you know, that's what shame is all about. This made me feel bad. So what can I do to make sure

00:00:23.680 that I never have to feel that badness ever again?

00:00:30.000 Hello, Classic Crew, and welcome to today's episode of Let's Be Classic, where I'm going

00:00:37.700 to be interviewing the amazing Candace Owens. I am so excited to have Candace on today's episode. 0.69

00:00:45.080 I had a great time chatting with her. This was recorded a little while back, so it was a really

00:00:51.140 interesting conversation that we had. Now, before we get into today's video, I would love if you

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00:01:27.000 subscribing. But before we start, I'd love to tell you about Candace. If you don't already know,

00:01:33.080 Candace is the founder of Blexit, an organization dedicated to driving conservative principles into

00:01:39.300 urban communities. She is also the host of The Candace Owens Show on The Daily Wire. She has spoken

00:01:45.680 at over 60 American universities and is the author of the book Blackout. You can follow her on Twitter

00:01:51.980 and Instagram, and she is an amazing woman. So interesting to talk to, and I'm so glad I got to

00:01:58.980 know her on a more personal level, as well as delving into her political ideas. So I'm really excited to

00:02:05.320 share today's video with you. So let's get into it. So hi, it's so lovely to have you on my channel.

00:02:11.720 I'm so excited to talk about just a bunch of different topics with you. I know how important

00:02:16.720 it is for people to get to know conservative women as women, not just as like political figures. 0.97

00:02:23.580 You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. But I did want to, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I think it's really

00:02:29.960 easy for the media to sort of pigeonhole conservatives in general, and especially women. It's, it's, there's 0.99

00:02:36.020 this sort of idea that conservative women are monsters. So I love taking the opportunity for 1.00

00:02:41.180 people to be able to just see a different side. Absolutely. Totally agree. So I did want to start

00:02:47.360 off talking about your book, because I actually just listened to the entire thing on Audible.

00:02:52.240 It was awesome. I loved it so much. And it's the best that I love listening to audiobooks in the car.

00:02:58.400 So getting to listen to your book, which was so easy to understand, but also had incredible insights,

00:03:05.360 was, I just loved it. I really did. So I wanted to ask you, did you know, from the beginning,

00:03:11.820 how you wanted to break it up chapter by chapter?

00:03:15.900 I didn't. So I had an idea that, you know, I wanted to write this book, and I knew some things

00:03:22.600 that I wanted to include in it. But it is so funny now to look back on what I initially had submitted

00:03:28.260 to the publishers and what the book turned out being. And I think that that's sort of really a nod to

00:03:33.420 the creative process, right? So as soon as you actually get around to writing the book, it takes

00:03:38.760 so many different turns and different shapes as you're going. And even in the moment, like up to

00:03:43.420 the moment, things were becoming more and more relevant. So I had had this sort of thesis that I

00:03:47.740 was working on. And then we had George Floyd riots. And I was like, now we need to go and include an

00:03:51.800 entire chapter about this, because it actually adds so many layers to my thesis and what I'm trying to

00:03:57.140 speak about. In terms of obviously, one of the major themes being that black Americans are being 0.72

00:04:02.880 emotionally manipulated. And I think we saw that in, you know, globally with the George Floyd protests.

00:04:10.860 So it changed so many times. And I was sort of on this creative journey.

00:04:17.800 I mean, I think it's such an incredible thing to get your point of view as a black woman talking

00:04:25.300 about this, these topics. And I think it allows people to kind of have an opinion that they may

00:04:34.020 think is not allowed, right? Because you're talking about these things. And that gives them permission

00:04:39.960 to be like, oh, maybe there is truth to what I'm thinking. Right. And it's interesting that you use

00:04:45.580 that word permission. And it's so important. Because in this current moment, in American society,

00:04:52.040 but also abroad, all around the world, for some reason, you feel like you have to be given permission

00:04:56.880 to think, given permission to question, being given permission to even speak. And that's so wrong.

00:05:04.000 And it's such a way to create a society of slaves when there just is this authoritative narrative that

00:05:10.240 nobody's allowed to challenge your question. Critical thinking is a part of being an individual.

00:05:15.300 And more and more, we're seeing that the media is trying to collectivize everyone and say,

00:05:19.860 you're either with us or you're wrong think and you need to be castigated. So it's one of the

00:05:25.260 biggest pieces of feedback that I get from people who follow me is that they feel like they finally

00:05:30.600 have permission to think their own thoughts and to be themselves. And I think that that is a pressure

00:05:35.160 that I feel in a good way that I constantly want to remind people that there is no consequence if

00:05:41.700 you're willing to stand up boldly for what you believe. Maybe it's not even what you believe.

00:05:45.140 You just want to be able to challenge the orthodoxy, right? That's a part of growing as an

00:05:50.840 individual, challenging, constantly challenging and deciding what side of a coin that you that

00:05:55.960 you land upon.

00:05:57.200 Yeah, no, I totally agree with that. And I wanted to actually talk about one section of the book

00:06:01.840 that wasn't a chapter. It was just something you mentioned and I thought was super important

00:06:06.060 where you talked about shame. And you talked about shame being a useful tool to encourage people

00:06:11.460 not to repeat their mistakes. And I absolutely loved that because I agree. And I feel that in

00:06:17.500 my own life, I've used shame as a tool when I've done something I've, I've been able to say,

00:06:23.020 okay, I regret that, and then not repeat it. But nowadays, shame is considered wrong. And it prevents

00:06:30.100 people from learning lessons. But I was just hoping you could talk a little bit more about that.

00:06:34.600 Yeah, there are so many layers to this. And it was something that I thought about for a very long

00:06:39.300 time, which is that we've increasingly tried to say that people should never feel shameful.

00:06:44.060 And we've handed them so many excuses, right? And I know exactly what chapter you're talking

00:06:48.440 about. I was talking really about, and here's one component of it, the feminist movement,

00:06:52.580 which is that if a woman sleeps with a man and regrets it the next morning, we're actually seeing

00:06:56.820 a culture that tells her that, well, you know, if you had a drink and maybe you can change your mind

00:07:01.560 about the consent that you've given. We have actually seen people saying that consent can be

00:07:06.400 reversed, which is a terrifying thing for men, right? Just, I reversed my consent. Last time

00:07:11.360 I was okay. I am not. But really what these young women are running away from when they cling on to 1.00

00:07:16.500 these ideas that seem so crazy, reversing consent the day after, is that they feel shameful about

00:07:21.340 their actions. And rather than facing that shame and saying, whoa, that made me feel terrible. And I

00:07:26.700 never want to do that ever again. They're just saying, here's the excuse. It's because men are

00:07:31.560 terrible and men should be responsible, even when I drink, they should be responsible, which is the 0.60

00:07:35.480 exact opposite, by the way, of what feminism should be about, right? We're supposed to believe 1.00

00:07:39.760 that women are empowered, that women can make good decisions. But at the same time that they're 1.00

00:07:43.140 saying that, they're also sending a message to young girls that you are never in control of

00:07:46.780 yourself. There is nothing you can do. Men are, you know, men are always in some sort of control of

00:07:51.160 you. And what I've done by sharing personal stories in this book is said to women, we all make

00:07:55.720 mistakes. It feels terrible. I mean, you know what I mean? But until we acknowledge that the

00:08:01.420 reason why they're called mistakes is because you can take steps to correct yourself in the

00:08:06.640 future and say, ah, that really didn't feel good when I did that last night. Like maybe I got drunk

00:08:11.680 and got into a major fight with one of my girlfriends, which I've done in college, but something I didn't

00:08:16.300 even believe. I just was turned into a raging monster because I had, you know, too much alcohol.

00:08:21.780 And the next day I felt so terrible about how I had treated her. I was so embarrassed.

00:08:25.380 People that were in the room that, but rather than saying, well, you know, it's your fault. You

00:08:30.120 know, I'm just an angry person because slavery happened 400 years ago. When I drink, black anger 0.99

00:08:34.960 is justified, which would almost be the way today. I had to feel so terrible, you know, apologize. And

00:08:41.780 you know, we didn't speak for two weeks, then we passed over our friendship. But shame is such a

00:08:45.740 necessary ingredient to transform. You have to know that there were elements that you did that were

00:08:49.900 wrong or elements that you can correct, you know, you know, to, to make sure that you never get to

00:08:55.000 that place. And unfortunately, we're taking that away from young women. We're telling young women

00:08:59.440 they're never responsible, which actually, in my opinion, further threatens them, right? And if

00:09:05.640 you're saying to women, you're never responsible, that says to women, you can drink 18 bottles of 0.98

00:09:09.740 wine and not a night. And there are things you can do to prevent being in a bad situation in the

00:09:16.580 first place. And one thing is being able to control how much you drink or abstaining from alcohol

00:09:20.560 altogether, if you know that you're a person that can't stop the drinking train once you

00:09:24.120 start it. Right. And I totally agree with you. And I think it's a wonderful thing that

00:09:29.120 you have shared, and I try and do the same, talking about kind of past mistakes, because

00:09:33.980 it tells women, we've all made mistakes, you can come back from them. But sometimes it's

00:09:38.920 important to recognize that it was a mistake, saying that it's just, oh, something I did and

00:09:43.980 trying to shift the blame. That's not how you grow as a person. And again, it sort of

00:09:50.580 gives permission to women to say, no, I made a mistake. And that's, that's good for me to 1.00

00:09:55.700 recognize. Yeah. And I hope that people see that. I've always tried to show people that

00:10:00.380 I'm so imperfect, but I am not. I have made every mistake. I always say I took the most liberal

00:10:05.520 route to conservatism. I did, but like I took the most liberal route to get there. And eventually

00:10:13.080 I realized here are the things that make me feel good. Here are the things that make me

00:10:15.940 feel bad. And that really is, you know, that's what shame is all about. This made me feel bad.

00:10:20.880 So what can I do to make sure that I never have to feel that badness ever again?

00:10:24.980 Absolutely. So shifting onto some like lighter topics, I really wanted to talk about motherhood.

00:10:32.160 So you're a new mom. How has it been taking care of your beautiful son? How is being a new mom?

00:10:38.480 Honestly, it is such a blessing and it,

00:10:43.080 it's one of those things that felt like the most natural thing in the entire world. And I could,

00:10:47.540 you know, write a whole other book on how toxic I think modern feminism is to make women, you know, 1.00

00:10:53.200 see motherhood as some sort of an enslavement is really kind of the message that I see coming

00:10:58.080 through the airways. When it is, it's the best part of your life. The best part of your life is being

00:11:03.020 able to start a family. And I can, I always sense that. And now I can confirm that, that there's just

00:11:09.800 something so incredible about, you know, my, my baby boy is only seven weeks and every day he's

00:11:15.820 learning something new. You know, it's like pushing the head up, doing something and you go,

00:11:19.600 oh my God, oh my God, you know, and it really sort of tethers you to how severe the cultural wars that

00:11:29.480 we are having today are because, you know, you can get up on a stage, you can say how long it is,

00:11:34.080 but when you look at your child and realize that they will have to deal with the consequences of

00:11:39.040 what side of the coin we decide, you know, is America going to be a socialist country? You know,

00:11:43.920 is America going to be a place where black people and white people can get along, right?

00:11:49.240 My child, by the way, is biracial, half white, half black. Is he half oppressed or half privileged?

00:11:53.780 Right. Where, where, where, where does a biracial child land in, you know, in this increasingly absurd 1.00

00:12:00.260 society? So I think that in, in a way it's been grounding, um, in a terrifying sense of, I kind of

00:12:08.440 realized how crucial, um, these debates that we are having are. Yeah. You see it in the younger

00:12:14.260 generation, especially as things that are geared toward children are trying to be changed for the

00:12:20.660 worse in my opinion. And I think it's just scary to see that it's not just, you know, policy about

00:12:26.660 taxes we're talking about here. We're talking about the fundamental things that make up a society

00:12:31.780 being torn out from under our feet. Right. Yeah. Like just, are, are you even allowed to be,

00:12:37.420 are we allowed to speak as women anymore? Is that offensive? You know, I saw women spelled MXN.

00:12:42.660 With an, you know, just this sort of idea that like even being a woman is wrong, like not

00:12:48.800 acknowledging that that is just some social construct, like just being allowed to exist

00:12:52.720 as a woman right now, um, is being challenged. Um, and again, that increasing idea that everything

00:12:59.240 about men is wrong, that everything about men, um, points to something patriarchal, that women

00:13:04.420 are weak and, and exists only under the patriarchy, um, is not really an environment that you want

00:13:09.060 to raise a son in. Right. I mean, God forbid, right. I'm like, I don't want him around any

00:13:14.580 of these women, God forbid. Um, you know, they, I'll show, I was going to say, I'm sure your son 1.00

00:13:19.820 being raised in your house is going to have women flocking to him because he'll be an actual 0.99

00:13:23.780 man. I know that's so true. And I'm going to have to interview them. Right. Yeah. They'll watch

00:13:30.240 my stuff and they won't play any of those games. Um, but yeah, so I think that's kind of been

00:13:35.060 the biggest transformation about, about becoming a mother. Yeah. Uh, so a question I have for

00:13:42.200 you is, do you have any books that you read during pregnancy and preparing for motherhood

00:13:48.220 that you would recommend? You know, I, for any person that is starting a family, um, I always

00:13:55.180 say, try not to read too much, but read just enough because you can go down a dark hole on

00:14:00.400 the internet, especially, um, I know women, I definitely did it by the way. So I'm, I'm

00:14:05.080 speaking, like I'm giving you advice I didn't take, but you, you can, you will be obsessed

00:14:09.980 with everything about birth and like all of these things. And what me and my husband decided

00:14:14.400 was, um, to kind of be a bit more organic, um, and not, uh, go in with such a plan about

00:14:22.540 even labor and birth. We did not have a plan. So many women had like, this is what I want 1.00

00:14:26.960 to happen. This is how it's going to go. And we were sort of like, we know what we

00:14:30.480 absolutely don't want. Um, in terms of intervention at the hospital, but you know, also, you know,

00:14:35.780 educating myself about my body was something that I did just, how does this even work?

00:14:40.040 It seems so crazy. And I remember reading the first chapter of, um, Robert C. Hamilton,

00:14:46.160 Dr. Robert C. Hamilton has a book, uh, and it is called the seven secrets of the newborn.

00:14:50.620 And the first chapter, she just sort of just goes over what happens in your body when you

00:14:54.780 get pregnant. And it's obviously you pull that knowledge from such a long time ago in your

00:14:59.200 brain. You're like, I mean, I haven't read about this in health class when it was not

00:15:02.360 relevant enough for me to pay attention. And then you just go, Oh my God, this is a literal

00:15:07.100 miracle. Like, you know what I mean? This is a miracle. Um, and you will have just so, just

00:15:12.940 so much respect for your body and what your body does and knowing a little bit about what

00:15:17.040 your body will continue, uh, to do postpartum. I mean, just, there is a miracle. I mean, even

00:15:22.300 in terms of when a baby is born, their vision is just long enough, um, to be able to see

00:15:28.540 from you holding them in your arms to your nipple, like that's, that is what they see. 0.65

00:15:33.180 So it's like, then like, you know, not getting into the gory details, but you know, during

00:15:38.460 pregnancy, um, you know, a woman's nipples areola's darken because it helps the child 1.00

00:15:43.740 see it's, it's their, it's their perception as exactly the length of their perception.

00:15:47.380 I mean, there's so many things that you just go, how are there people in the world who don't

00:15:51.020 believe in God? Right. You know what I mean? It's like, it's one of those things is you just,

00:15:54.580 well, how do you not believe in God? There's a miracle, um, about childbirth. So I, I really

00:15:59.860 enjoyed that book, the seven secrets of the newborn. And one of the best lessons from that

00:16:02.860 book was a baby needs nothing, really, uh, all of these toys and things that we think that a

00:16:07.620 newborn needs, you don't need. And so we were really, we basically bought nothing for our newborn

00:16:13.380 and they couldn't have, he couldn't have been more correct in that assessment. So that's,

00:16:18.340 I love that, especially, I think so many women feel like they have to make this huge budget for 1.00

00:16:25.140 having a baby. And it, I think it deters a lot of women from wanting a bigger family. Cause they're, 1.00

00:16:30.420 they're seeing these baby registries that are $5,000. And they're like, how am I going to afford

00:16:36.580 this? Right. And you don't need anything. And I will tell you that they just literally need

00:16:42.100 you and they can't, I mean, they don't even know they have hands, you know what I mean?

00:16:45.940 So it's just, uh, go less is more. It really is. I love that. So moving on to beauty and fashion.

00:16:55.220 I you're gorgeous. The way that you dress is beautiful and also just your, your look stunning.

00:17:01.780 So, um, my question for you is, do you have any skincare products that you love and would recommend?

00:17:10.500 So I am super, super reduced in the makeup department. I don't like to wear makeup. I

00:17:18.180 don't like to wear a lot of my skin. I don't like the way it feels more than anything else. Um, so

00:17:22.660 people always ask me that and it's, it's so funny how basic my skincare routine is. Um, at nighttime,

00:17:29.220 I'm, I basically douse my face in aquaphor. Um, like that is, that is my routine packs in moisture.

00:17:36.900 It's so good for your skin. Um, so I am such a person that believes that my grandmother,

00:17:42.180 um, who was Caribbean and she's from St. Thomas used to always say to me, don't put anything on

00:17:47.220 your face, but water, the more products you use, the more products you'll need. Um, and that lesson

00:17:51.940 sort of stayed with me. And so I'm, I'm very, you know, I use a basic face wash, um, in the morning,

00:17:58.420 my routine, my beauty routine is always, you know, a little bit under the eyes, um,

00:18:03.380 a little concealer under the eyes goes a really long way. And then I'll put on a little bit of,

00:18:07.700 um, mascara. This is literally exactly what I have on right now. And I go, so I, I, especially now,

00:18:15.220 and as we see, and I, I hate to direct this to a political argument, but I genuinely, when I see girls

00:18:21.940 and they have so much makeup on because that culture of beating your face, as they say,

00:18:27.540 has really been sort of taken by trans men, I think now that women look more beautiful when they

00:18:34.180 just look more natural and men prefer it. You know, if you talk to men, they, they like, you know,

00:18:39.780 they like the way women look without all the extra, you know, glam and fake lashes and all that stuff.

00:18:45.300 So as close as you can do to, you know, makeup is meant to enhance, um, not to cover. And that really

00:18:51.060 is my policy. So I use things that enhance beauty, but nothing, I'm not trying to cover my face.

00:18:56.020 So yeah. Um, boring answer, but I'm being, I was going to say, you don't need it. You look like

00:19:01.460 you're wearing a full face. And it's, it's funny because I've actually gotten criticism from, you

00:19:08.420 know, enough people on YouTube, make videos, hate videos about me, um, about my makeup because I give

00:19:15.380 makeup, uh, I do makeup routines and makeup videos on my channel and you know, it's a lot, but it's

00:19:22.180 still proof like more on the natural side. And so they'll be like, she's giving a makeup tutorial

00:19:28.180 and look at her face. She doesn't even have the full beat. I'm like, I don't want the fake lashes. 0.86

00:19:35.140 Exactly. And, and, and even that to your point, you can even, there are people, they can spend 20

00:19:39.540 minutes and you still look very natural. There's like, you know, there's so many different ways to the

00:19:43.460 natural look, but I always encourage women to go with looking natural because that there's just 1.00

00:19:47.700 such a beauty about it. I've always thought like, you know, in looking to Hollywood, if there was

00:19:51.620 ever a woman that I thought was super beautiful, she was always someone that was wearing less makeup 0.79

00:19:55.460 and it just was enhancing the features that she already has. You know, it's so funny because my

00:20:00.660 husband, he does this to me all the time and it took me a while to actually believe him, but he'll

00:20:05.620 only ever compliment me. Not only that's an exaggeration. Generally when he compliments me, it's when I

00:20:11.540 have no makeup on and I'm like, he means it. I know. And it took me so long to figure that out.

00:20:17.460 Cause I was like, why are you lying to me? No, it is so true. It is. You speak to men and every, and

00:20:25.540 I even just see my husband making basic commentary. He was just like, you know, what is this? What is

00:20:29.620 this? Um, when he sees girls that just look completely, as they say, completely beat their faces. 1.00

00:20:36.100 And he, you know, he says to me like that, I wouldn't even know if that was a man or a woman.

00:20:39.940 And the thing about women is we don't have to wear makeup to look like women. Right. You know what 1.00

00:20:45.460 I mean? We are women. So we've already got that natural, you know, God enhanced, you know, made 0.99

00:20:50.740 women beautiful for a reason. Right. Um, and we, we have a beauty about us that, that can't be captured 0.92

00:20:56.900 in a bottle or can't be, can't be captured by Sephora after a shopping trip. So I always try to get

00:21:02.500 women to like go that direction as opposed to where culture seems to be taking us, which is just 1.00

00:21:07.300 like mask your entire face. Exactly. I tend to say to my followers, I think it's nice to put on a

00:21:13.060 little bit of makeup, just like some concealer and, and mascara, just to show a little bit of respect

00:21:18.340 for the area where you're in, if you're at work or something. But I agree with you that you shouldn't be

00:21:24.740 masking your natural beauty in an attempt to fit in with the trends. It's just totally agree.

00:21:29.940 So fashion wise, do you have any style icons? Like if you had to describe your style,

00:21:37.140 how would you describe it? And who inspires you? I love fashion. I know. You look amazing.

00:21:44.340 I love fashion. Um, and I've always been interested in fashion. Initially, actually,

00:21:48.660 when I was interning in New York, I was working at a lot of fashion magazines, 17 magazine, Glamour

00:21:53.940 magazine. Um, uh, was it O magazine? One Hearst media, but I can't, I can't remember what publication

00:22:00.740 it was. I think it might've been L. Um, I worked at Vogue for a brief stint. Um, and so, and I did

00:22:06.500 all that stuff when I was really broke, you know, had no money to even eat lunch. Uh, so fashion for me

00:22:14.260 had to be something that was affordable, uh, but looked really good. And, uh, so I would say right

00:22:21.220 now, I am a person, I love a blazer. I love a power suit. I think, um, you know, women in structured 1.00

00:22:27.060 pieces always look so amazing. Um, and I mean, there's different looks, but I just find that for

00:22:32.820 whatever reason, whenever I'm wearing a dress, I don't feel as powerful as when I am wearing something

00:22:39.780 that is structured. And I don't mean that it always needs to be a suit, but I love blazers.

00:22:44.420 I have a huge collection of blazers. Um, some, some labels that I love right now or have always

00:22:49.620 loved rather, but I can finally afford one of them, ALC. Um, I've always loved their blazers.

00:22:55.700 I think they're so beautiful. Um, I think, um, who is the woman that is making, gosh, I can't 1.00

00:23:02.180 Veronica beard is making a lot of really, yeah, really cool blazers right now. Um, so I have a lot of

00:23:08.420 her stuff in my wardrobe, um, up and coming. I've really in London saw, uh, a lot of new pieces

00:23:14.660 being pulled by Gabriella Hearst. When I say being pulled, there's a store called Joseph's that I

00:23:19.300 love to shop at in London when my husband and I are over there. And now Gabriella Hearst is the

00:23:25.140 creative director for Chloe. And I always love like Chloe, um, sweaters. I almost said jumpers. My

00:23:33.620 husband's British. So I'm starting to speak English, English as opposed to American English.

00:23:38.500 Oh my gosh. Um, so I think she's, she's definitely one to watch. She has a talent,

00:23:43.300 uh, and she understands the female body in terms of dresses, even dresses. I'd like them to be 1.00

00:23:46.980 super structured. Um, I've always loved Aliyah. I think Aliyah, uh, has an understanding of the

00:23:53.460 female body, like no other designer. And what I particularly love about him is that he does not do

00:23:58.980 fashion shows because he refuses to come up with the beat of fall, spring, fall, spring. And he says,

00:24:05.620 you know, it's art to him and art doesn't have a deadline. Uh, so he has always sort of been one

00:24:10.980 of my favorite designers. Uh, even though I do not own any of his dresses at the moment,

00:24:17.620 but I've always followed all of his stuff and I watch, um, you know, everything that comes out from

00:24:21.780 him and he he's really wonderful. I mean, I could go on and on about fashion. I love fashion in terms of

00:24:27.060 basics. I'm a huge fan and I hate to say this now because then they're going to do something

00:24:31.540 woke and I'm going to have to stop wearing it, but I love made. Well, I know it's just so great

00:24:37.460 for basics. Yeah. Um, and yeah, so made well is, is kind of when you see Candace walking down the 1.00

00:24:43.540 street and probably just in a pair of made well jeans and t-shirt and you can dress up up or down.

00:24:48.580 Do not ignore going to thrift stores. People, I am telling you, uh, you want to do, you want to do

00:24:54.020 designer on a budget, find a local thrift store that is near a super wealthy neighborhood.

00:24:59.220 And so you will have so many designer duds. That was my entire lifestyle. Um, and I can't get enough

00:25:06.660 of it. So I totally agree. And also I didn't know how into fashion designers and fashion you were,

00:25:14.020 I knew that you like dressed super well, but I didn't know that you like followed fashion trends

00:25:18.580 and fashion designers. That's super interesting. I mean, yeah, I love to see who's at the head of the

00:25:22.660 house, like, you know, Givenchy, uh, but I liked them better when Ricardo Tichy was at the head and

00:25:27.700 he left them a couple of years ago. So yeah, I actually very much follow fashion. That's amazing.

00:25:34.420 I thought I was going to be a fashion designer before I moved into singing opera. So I loved that

00:25:41.060 stuff growing up. I used to do fashion sketches and I would try and watch fashion shows and things

00:25:47.060 like that. So I totally feel you. So you're very creative then. I, I do have a creative streak,

00:25:53.700 especially I like drawing. I'm not the best artist. My sister, one of my sisters is a wonderful artist.

00:25:59.300 I am, I'm not, but, but I enjoy it. I like it and it's fun. And so fashion for me is a creative outlet.

00:26:05.700 It's a way for me to like put things together, different pieces. Yeah. And you feel good when you,

00:26:09.780 when you dress well, you feel, you feel good. So it's like, no matter how I feel, even if I'm sick,

00:26:15.620 I will get up and I will put on an outfit, you know, that I feel confident and you just feel

00:26:20.580 good when you're walking out of the door. Um, and like I said, it doesn't need to be done just

00:26:25.300 because something is expensive does not mean it's nice. It's one of the tackiest things that women 1.00

00:26:30.020 fall into the habit of. And I've met these people that cannot put themselves together. And I'm like,

00:26:33.540 I have seen particularly South American women have very good taste. Um, and they, and they have very 0.97

00:26:40.820 good taste and I think it's, it really speaks to just how, you know, their, their culture is, um,

00:26:47.380 very minimalist, but kind of, you know, the pops of colors and designs and stuff like that.

00:26:52.100 Um, I had a Venezuela, I, I mean, Argentinian friend who I thought I have never seen someone

00:26:56.580 with less money who pulled her. She looked like a billion dollars every time she walked out and 1.00

00:27:01.220 everything she got was from a thrift store. Um, so.

00:27:03.700 I try to say this to my followers too, because people might think I, I have a lot of money.

00:27:09.620 I don't. So all of the clothes that I buy are like really on sale or from a thrift store.

00:27:15.700 And I'm like, it's really, you don't have to have money to look great. And when I say.

00:27:21.140 The manager does rent the runway. And so she returns it, wears it, and she always looks great, 0.58

00:27:25.780 just easy, sleek, you know, be able to go get a good pair of shoes, you know, cheap pair of jeans.

00:27:31.380 They all look the same. Find one that, you know, fits your body tight. Uh, you know,

00:27:35.140 a basic t-shirt that looks great. I mean, you can just, I could talk fashion all day. I love, I love,

00:27:40.180 I love women, women's fashion. So yeah, me too. I mean, woman X fashion.

00:27:48.260 I don't even know how it would be pronounced. Um, I, so I wanted to ask you about dating and

00:27:55.060 relationships. Um, what advice do you have for young women who are dating?

00:28:01.380 And trying to date, I would say trying to date more seriously because in today's culture, dating

00:28:05.860 very often does not have a goal in mind. Um, but what, what would your advice be for young women?

00:28:13.700 Um, I would, I probably would first tell them that I am so sympathetic to what they are going through.

00:28:20.500 I cannot even imagine if dating was as flippant. Um, I say back in my day, like I'm old, I'm a

00:28:26.900 millennial, I'm only 32, but it, what has kind of, I shouldn't even see progress, but digress,

00:28:34.260 um, for them in terms of concepts like Twitter, right? Where men are just shopping on the internet, 0.99

00:28:38.900 uh, you know, Instagram, I think all of these things have actually polluted, um, relationships

00:28:43.780 because it's just, there's so much available and, um, it removes focus. You know, the idea of why

00:28:50.100 our grandparents stayed together forever, uh, is because they weren't just constantly being thrown

00:28:54.740 naked women on the internet all the time. And, um, so their values, uh, were naturally different. 0.88

00:29:01.540 So I know it's difficult, uh, for women, especially if they feel like they have to compete with airbrushed 0.98

00:29:06.900 models, um, on Instagram and worry about DMS and things of that nature. But I will say this first

00:29:12.340 and foremost, you should not be dating unless you're sure of who you are. I did a lot of dating,

00:29:17.220 uh, with a Candace that I didn't know. And so in my relationships, I was looking for security because

00:29:24.180 I was insecure. Um, and the second you are sure about who you are, when you went on your own two feet,

00:29:32.500 uh, when you are confident in your ideas, um, and confident in what you want, I really do believe

00:29:38.980 that the world conspires to assist you and it will bring you closer, uh, to that type of person that

00:29:44.660 is going to mesh well with you and your values and your goals in life. And for me, especially now in

00:29:51.300 American culture with so many men, uh, that are being hyper-feminized in my opinion, um, I was in 0.75

00:29:57.940 London and that love of my life. Right. Um, and so I would say to those women not to be discouraged

00:30:04.580 by the current climate and even within America to know that it is coastal, like the coastal men are 0.69

00:30:10.660 a lot different than the men when you get to like Tennessee, which is where I am now, proud Nashville

00:30:15.780 resident already. Um, yeah, in the South, like their values are different. So if you're, if you're looking

00:30:21.940 for someone with conservative values, conservative principles, you know, believing in the longevity of

00:30:25.620 relationships, believing in traditional roles, I believe in traditional roles. Um, I think that

00:30:29.940 they work. I think, you know, there is a yin and a yang when it comes to women and men and either 1.00

00:30:34.660 trying to be the other disrupts that sort of, uh, that perfect energy, um, that runs through them. Uh,

00:30:40.660 it exists, uh, all over the world off of, off of television and then definitely in the heart of, uh,

00:30:46.660 middle America. I, I think find yourself a good Southern man.

00:30:51.460 No, I actually, that was actually something I considered when I was single was

00:30:57.220 moving to the States that I thought, Hey, maybe the guys here will actually be men.

00:31:01.780 Right. Yeah. Cause I lived on the coast. I lived on the coast my whole life, but luckily I met my

00:31:08.180 New York city latte sipping blogger, you know, he's like, yeah, that's not ideal.

00:31:14.580 It's not ideal at all. Um, but I, I think that's great advice. And I think it's really important

00:31:22.100 for women to know what they want and know what they're looking for because you can't, 1.00

00:31:26.260 and you know, yourself first, right? Once you know yourself, then you know what you want in a partner,

00:31:30.740 you know, what you're looking at. Exactly. You waste less time. You just waste less time,

00:31:34.580 you know? So, and, and that's, that's what it's all about. You'll just waste less time. And when,

00:31:38.420 when you see the person, you will be sure, you know? Right. So how did you and your husband

00:31:42.340 actually meet? I was giving a speech in London, ranting against socialism. And my husband was one

00:31:49.940 of the people that was in attendance and we got engaged two weeks later. So I did not know that

00:31:56.500 story. That is amazing. I had a love at first sight story. And if somebody had told me that I would

00:32:02.020 have had a love at first sight story, I would have been like, absolutely not. Um, we had a love at

00:32:06.500 first sight story. He proposed to me on a plane two weeks after we had met. So we didn't even have

00:32:12.900 our first kiss until after we were engaged. We had our first kiss in one in Heathrow airport after we

00:32:18.500 were engaged. And I am telling you, I knew instantly when I saw him, like it was this bizarre universal

00:32:25.060 feeling that I don't think I'll ever be able, uh, to capture again, but it was just sort of like, I

00:32:30.020 already knew him and in his space, it wasn't even, uh, you know, on the heels of a conversation. It

00:32:35.700 was just in his space. I, I suddenly felt, I always say me and my husband felt like a big sigh of relief.

00:32:42.340 Like I, I didn't know I was holding my breath for years. Um, and then it was like, ah, you know,

00:32:47.300 there he is, there it is. Now everything can be fine. And that is exactly how it felt. Riley guys

00:32:52.580 and my husband. Oh my God. That is amazing. I'm so glad I know this story now.

00:32:57.860 My husband and I, we didn't have the same insight in this, in the sense that we didn't get engaged

00:33:03.060 after two weeks, but we were talking about marriage the week after we started dating. So we, we knew

00:33:09.780 like, you just knew, you just were like, you know what, it's, it's going there. And that's another

00:33:14.180 thing is that you'll find that when it is that person, a lot of times with young women dating,

00:33:18.900 you just feel uncomfortable talking about these things. You would never just start dating someone,

00:33:22.420 talk about marriage or children. Um, when you meet the right person, it's the most natural thing in the

00:33:27.060 world. You know, it's like how many kids are we having, you know, and that lets you know that

00:33:31.700 he's a man because if he's a younger guy who hasn't matured yet, like even thinking about that will

00:33:37.700 scare him off, you know, and you don't want to marry someone where a conversation about forever,

00:33:43.620 um, scares them off because then, you know, this person is still sort of playing the field.

00:33:48.100 Um, and it's not looking for something serious with you. So, I mean, I, two weeks later,

00:33:53.700 you're engaged. I love it. I love your later marriage. And so any advice about marriage?

00:34:01.380 Um, you know, there is, there are such cliches about marriage and, you know, and there's something

00:34:08.740 to them and, and there really is something to them. There's, there's like marriage humor that

00:34:13.380 only married people get. And when you hear it outside of marriage, you're like, that sounds really,

00:34:17.140 like happy wife, happy life starts to have a new meaning when, when you're married. Um, you know,

00:34:22.820 and that again gets into like the different roles of husband and wife, but yeah, I would just say,

00:34:27.620 um, that don't shy away from realizing that these things that have existed forever exist because

00:34:34.660 they work. Um, you know, I, my husband is the head of the household, I believe in, and men being

00:34:40.900 head of the household, but as the women, we know that, you know, but the household is exactly as we like it,

00:34:46.580 sort of a thing, you know? So there is this thing that you can't really describe where,

00:34:51.060 um, it's, it's so important. I think for, for women to really respect their husbands for,

00:34:55.300 of course, husbands to also respect their wives, um, and making sure that you want the same,

00:35:00.660 that you have the same values. Um, obviously, hopefully before you get married, but constantly

00:35:06.020 having that conversation, making time for each other, never stop dating sort of a thing. Um, and I

00:35:11.300 always say, if for whatever reason you are with someone because you think they look good,

00:35:17.380 um, looks fade, uh, your mind is forever. My husband and I have just about every interest is

00:35:24.980 the same. We both love the outdoors. We love politics. So our conversations are so natural

00:35:30.580 with one another because it is so much more than appearances for us. It's, it's a deeper level,

00:35:36.180 with spiritual lover. We, we, we think the same. Um, and he, he really is in that regard, my best

00:35:41.220 friend. So, uh, it's another marriage cliche, cliche, marry your best friend, but at, at the end of the

00:35:47.460 day, uh, to grow with someone, they're going to have to be your best friend. Yeah. I think it's funny

00:35:52.020 because when I got married to Jacob, I remember asking him if I was his best friend and I think

00:35:56.980 he had a moment of like, Oh, I don't know. Like, I didn't think about it that way. And you turn,

00:36:01.460 you, you turn into each other's best friend in a good marriage. It's like when you're dating,

00:36:05.940 you don't necessarily start off as like friends. It's more like you're really into each other and

00:36:10.340 you share values and you share, like there's the chemistry and the compatibility that makes you a

00:36:13.940 good partners. But then when you spend every minute of your life together, all you, you inevitably

00:36:20.500 become best friends. Yeah. And no one makes me laugh harder. You know, they just know you in a way,

00:36:26.340 um, that is just, it's your best friends. There's just, there's no way to avoid it in a good marriage.

00:36:31.300 Exactly. Exactly. Good marriages. That's either how it starts or how it ends up, but you're always

00:36:37.380 you're going to be best friends. That's just part of it. Exactly.

00:36:40.740 So work-life balance, uh, you know, so many women, we're all, many of my, of my subscribers are women

00:36:47.780 and we're all looking for that. Perfect. Doesn't exist. Work-life balance. Um, how do you balance life

00:36:54.100 and work? And I know you just started coming back into work because you just had the baby, but how does,

00:37:00.420 how does that feel now as a mom? Um, so first, what I want to say for women that are looking to have

00:37:07.220 full-time careers plus be a mother, it's hard. Uh, do not let this be glamorized to you by modern

00:37:13.220 feminists of you should want more. You should want more. You should want more in your career. You 1.00

00:37:16.660 should want to be like a man. There's a reason God designed men in the way that he did and God designed

00:37:22.340 women in a way that we, that we are designed and we are different. Okay. We are, of course, 1.00

00:37:27.220 we want equal opportunities, but we are not equal. Um, in terms of, you know, right now,

00:37:31.780 I have a seven year old, a seven week old infant, um, and he is feeding off of my breasts, not my

00:37:37.780 husband's. Right. So it is impossible for things to be equal in my household because only one of us

00:37:42.180 has to be concerned about breast pumping, breastfeeding every three hours around the clock. 1.00

00:37:46.340 Right. Um, and, and so this is something that men and women are different and you,

00:37:51.700 you have to know that and, and really make decisions in your life based on that knowledge,

00:37:55.220 because it actually would be unequal if I wanted to, uh, be like my husband plus breastfeed. Uh,

00:38:01.860 I naturally have to give X amount of hours a day just to feed our child. Right. Um, and so I say that

00:38:07.620 to him all the time is don't feel like you should want a career or else you failed. I think,

00:38:12.820 I always say this, I think the toughest job in the world, um, is being a full-time stay at home

00:38:17.780 mother. Um, you know, raising good children is so hard. Um, it requires your focus, your attention.

00:38:24.020 And so I know there are so many women that, uh, admire me because I work and I have this home life.

00:38:29.940 Um, but just know that you are, you are more admired in the other direction because I know how

00:38:34.580 difficult that is. And it is so challenging for me, um, which right now it's getting up earlier. Uh,

00:38:39.540 it's going to bed later and it it's difficult. So I always want to be super transparent about that

00:38:44.820 because I hate the way, um, that society looks down upon stay at home women as if raising human 0.94

00:38:51.780 beings is an easy job. It's just not right. Yeah. Yeah. Um, especially well-grounded human

00:38:57.140 beings that don't turn into crazy radical communists who want to burn down the world and break into

00:39:02.660 businesses, you know? So it's like, spend that time. And if you decide that, you know, working for you,

00:39:08.100 of course, work is rewarding. I love it. Um, and I believe so much in what I do and my work is so

00:39:13.540 close to my heart for me. It's not about making money. Um, so there is a piece of my soul that is

00:39:18.580 satisfied through my work, which is why I still do it. Um, but how I do it is getting up earlier,

00:39:24.340 going to bed later and drinking a heck of a lot of coffee.

00:39:30.500 Yeah. I think that that's a, a great point and something I try and

00:39:34.820 some, it's funny. It's like, if you are a proponent for mothers who want to stay at home,

00:39:39.780 which I have on my channel, but I also am constantly saying women who work also great,

00:39:46.420 as long as you are being at home with your children, you know, at some point,

00:39:49.860 as long as you're prioritizing, people will immediately assume that you want all women to 0.96

00:39:55.300 stay in the home, which is ridiculous. And I think to myself, it's such a false dichotomy. 0.57

00:40:01.060 I look at women like you, honestly, I work crazy entrepreneurial hours. My mom worked out 1.00

00:40:07.380 of the home my entire childhood. My dad was a stay at home dad. I'm like, you can respect both.

00:40:13.860 This is a great thing, right? Yeah. There's such a false dichotomy. And,

00:40:18.100 but I think that people that women that choose to work should be more honest and there's, this isn't 0.99

00:40:22.500 a hierarchy. It's not like, well, I made it all happen. You know, it's no, it's, it's difficult.

00:40:27.460 And there will be times where you're going to wish that I wasn't here at the office and I,

00:40:32.020 you, you'll wish that you were with your child. So yeah, again, it's just not a false dichotomy.

00:40:37.140 I mean, it is a false dichotomy currently in the discussions.

00:40:39.860 Right. So my last question is just about the hate that you get. I get it, you know,

00:40:48.340 on a minuscule scale compared to you. I mean, I do get a lot of hate in the comments and people ask me

00:40:54.260 how I handle it, but I'm curious to know how you handle it. Cause you're getting it from so many

00:40:59.780 people and from so many directions and how you kind of keep it all together with that.

00:41:05.540 I think honestly, people are so surprised by how happy I am and how unbothered I am at people that

00:41:10.180 hate me. And I, I have to credit Kanye West for this one. I listened to so much Kanye West music,

00:41:16.500 um, growing up, you know, I just, I loved him because in his music, he is actually giving you the formula,

00:41:22.980 uh, for success. And a big component of being successful is not caring what other people think.

00:41:28.180 Um, and you know, one of his, you know, lines is that he says that he loves his haters because

00:41:33.300 they're his biggest fans. Right. I wouldn't be where I am today. If it was not for my haters,

00:41:38.820 they are such a dedicated fan base that I'll even do that because I find it funny when they told me to

00:41:44.020 troll them back being like, people will dig up things that I said, uh, you know, five years ago and

00:41:50.100 because they hate me. Right. And then they'll put together a one minute video, a montage of things

00:41:55.220 that I've said to say that I'm a hateful human being. And I'm like, you spent minimally six

00:41:59.220 hours on this, right. On this montage. I'm supposed to believe you hate me. Like,

00:42:05.780 I think you kind of love me, can't get enough of me, a little bit of an obsession going on here.

00:42:10.260 And when you make, when you have fun with it, like, even sometimes like they'll say something and

00:42:14.180 it'll be like, what was one that made me laugh so hard? And I grew up with siblings. So like,

00:42:17.860 we made fun of each other. Like you can't say something near to me than my sisters and me

00:42:21.620 said each other growing up. You just can't do it. Um, you know, so there's like one person said,

00:42:26.500 um, she looks like, I forgot who the character is in the movie ants. And like,

00:42:32.100 I looked and I was like, I actually see this. And I wrote that back to them. And I was like,

00:42:36.500 I actually, this is, this is good. I totally see this. And they were so surprised by like how,

00:42:42.180 you know, how well I took it that, you know, I love a good joke. I don't take myself too seriously.

00:42:47.220 Um, and I love to troll them back because they get even angrier when they know that they can't

00:42:53.060 affect you. You know, you get stronger, they get angrier and then you win. So it's like, you know,

00:42:58.820 look it up because sometimes they could be right. You know, like I look like queen whatever in the

00:43:03.300 movie ants. I was like, she looks like me. And it's funny because my sister used to call me an

00:43:07.780 aunt growing up. And my cousin, you're like literally my cousin one day was eating a pack of

00:43:12.420 almonds. And she's like, how one up? And she was like, you look like an almond. And like,

00:43:15.700 now I can't unsee it. Like, you know, and I'm like, you look like an almond. Um,

00:43:22.900 you have to make fun of yourself, not take yourself too seriously. Everybody else had a cartoon. Everyone

00:43:27.700 looks like a fruit. There's always a fruit. Like it's like, I feel like this. And that is just the

00:43:31.620 name of the game. None of us are perfect. Enjoy it. Like, right. Oh my gosh. That's amazing. Also,

00:43:37.380 you know, it's funny. I get this a lot too, because my husband is always impressed. I just,

00:43:41.700 I don't, it doesn't bother me. It's like, you're taking your time out of your day to talk, to watch

00:43:49.780 and hate watch my videos. And I remember, I think I got this right. Exactly. I think I got this from

00:43:55.220 another YouTube creator and I thought it was great. So now I say it. And he says all of his haters,

00:44:00.340 he calls his interns because they're just bumping up his, his view count. He's getting Google ad revenue.

00:44:06.100 I'm like, yeah, you work for me. Yeah, exactly. Welcome. I hope you stay around and you become

00:44:12.260 a dedicated hater of the Candace Owens show. You know what I mean? I want you to be dedicated in

00:44:17.540 this hatred, you know? Exactly. Exactly. And I do almost feel like once you accept the haters,

00:44:24.820 it almost makes you more confident because when they say something about you, you're like,

00:44:30.100 either like you said, like, yes or no. Like, yeah, that's true. Or like, yeah, that's definitely not true.

00:44:34.740 Sometimes my husband and I will even stay in bed and like laugh out loud at the comments because

00:44:41.140 and I'll just be like, I'm entering the first 10 and I'll just like troll back. And then the people

00:44:44.980 that love you love it because they're like, wow, she, you know, she's got so much confidence that

00:44:49.140 she can engage on a level. You know, I just, I, it's your troll. And what do I care? If my confidence 0.88

00:44:55.140 came from the internet, I wouldn't be here. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. I have little things in my

00:45:00.180 life. I have my sisters, you know, I have my husband, like these, these are the people that,

00:45:05.060 you know, give me my sense of self. You should never be getting your sense of self from the internet.

00:45:09.300 The internet should be a play thing. Um, and your trolls are your biggest fans. Love them.

00:45:15.780 And on that note, I absolutely love that. So we're going to finish off here, but thank you so much

00:45:22.180 for coming on my channel. It was awesome to have you. Absolutely. It was so great to join. We'll

00:45:26.820 have to do it again in the future. Yeah, absolutely. So have a wonderful day. Thank you. You too. Bye

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Classically Abby - June 03, 2021

Candace Owens Reveals Why She REJECTS Feminism! ｜｜ Let's Be Classic #3

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