Classically Abby - September 17, 2020


MORE Netflix Cuties Drama, Rosh Hashana Around The Corner, And...Hocus Pocus？？ ｜｜ The Scoop #8

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In this episode of The Scoop, I discuss the controversy surrounding the new Netflix film, Cuties, and how it could be used as a breeding ground for pedophiles. I talk about the artistic value of over sexualizing children, but does it justify the use of children to prove a point?

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00:00:00.120 Hello, Classic Crew, and welcome to today's episode of The Scoop.
00:00:06.980 If you are new to my channel, The Scoop is our opportunity each week to just catch up.
00:00:11.920 Imagine that we're grabbing a cup of coffee together and just kind of hang out, go over
00:00:16.160 what happened over the week.
00:00:17.360 I love to hear what you guys have been up to in the comments, and of course, I just share
00:00:21.440 what I've been thinking about and doing this week.
00:00:23.500 So if it's still hot in your area, grab some iced coffee, and if you're starting to feel
00:00:27.640 the effects of fall already, grab some hot tea or a latte, and let's get into it.
00:00:32.360 So let's start off today's episode by talking about this film, Cuties.
00:00:36.340 I did talk about this a little bit in an older episode of The Scoop before the movie had actually
00:00:41.640 come out.
00:00:42.360 There was some controversy about the initial poster that Netflix released.
00:00:46.600 So Cuties is a French film that Netflix is putting onto their platforms, and the initial
00:00:51.320 poster that Netflix released in America was a very sexualized poster of 11-year-old girls 0.93
00:00:57.900 in overly sexual positions, in overly sexual clothing, and it was pedophilic. 0.55
00:01:03.920 And people reacted, as they should have.
00:01:06.200 Netflix simply apologized for the poster and said that they would redesign the poster, but
00:01:11.740 of course, people weren't just upset about the poster.
00:01:14.180 They were upset about the concept for the movie.
00:01:16.740 So the concept of the movie is that you have an 11-year-old girl who grew up in a traditional
00:01:21.960 household, and then she meets other 11-year-olds in her area who are not from traditional households
00:01:28.180 and who like to dance and have been over-sexualized by the internet and the things that they've
00:01:32.880 seen.
00:01:33.420 And here's the thing.
00:01:34.720 On Twitter, clips from the film were making the rounds and showing these girls, these 11-year-old
00:01:40.240 girls in incredibly sexual situations that were filmed in a way that looks like pedophilia. 0.93
00:01:47.200 It honestly does.
00:01:48.160 So I want to talk about why the movie is an issue and why people are trying to defend it.
00:01:53.380 So essentially, the director of the movie says that the message of the film is that
00:01:57.200 the over-sexualization of children is a bad thing, and that she's trying to prove that
00:02:02.400 through the movie.
00:02:04.280 And she's trying to say that there is suffering caused by over-sexualizing children at a young
00:02:09.180 age.
00:02:09.540 So the point of the movie isn't that it's pedophilic and it's not to glorify sexualizing
00:02:13.800 children.
00:02:14.320 It's to show that it's wrong and that it's a bad thing.
00:02:17.240 So the idea of that message is a good thing.
00:02:19.760 The idea that we shouldn't be over-sexualizing children is a good thing.
00:02:23.760 But here are the problems with this movie.
00:02:26.180 Number one, there were real children used in the making of this film.
00:02:29.780 This wasn't a cartoon.
00:02:31.220 This wasn't adults pretending to be children that maybe could look or pass as being younger.
00:02:36.180 This was actual children being put in sexual positions to prove a point.
00:02:41.640 Are we comfortable as a society with allowing parents to let their children be used to prove
00:02:46.640 a point?
00:02:47.140 Are we comfortable with allowing children to be put in sexual situations to perform in
00:02:52.320 a sexual film so that we can prove that the over-sexualization of children is bad?
00:02:58.700 It's all backwards.
00:03:00.040 We're still putting children in a bad situation.
00:03:03.280 We're still allowing these young girls to be performing in sexual ways. 1.00
00:03:09.040 Think about the production process.
00:03:11.240 You have these little girls being taught sexual choreography with adults where they're going 1.00
00:03:16.400 to be shooting a sexual scene over and over where they're going to be performing sexual
00:03:21.200 situations with adult actors.
00:03:23.760 And all of this is happening in front of grown people.
00:03:26.720 Is that not a breeding ground for pedophilia?
00:03:29.420 Now number two is that this film is fodder for pedophiles. 0.90
00:03:33.360 You put this out there for any pedophile to see. 0.93
00:03:36.060 And the imagery in this movie is pedophilic. 0.99
00:03:38.760 You are sexualizing little girls' bodies. 1.00
00:03:40.740 If you've seen clips from the movie, you would know that what you're seeing on film 0.71
00:03:44.820 is sexualizing children. 0.86
00:03:46.620 You might be making a good point that over-sexualizing children is bad. 0.75
00:03:51.460 But is the artistic value of this film enough to justify that you are making child pornography?
00:03:57.440 Also, how badly do you get to fail at making your alleged point before we get to question
00:04:04.000 whether that really was your point?
00:04:05.600 Because watching the clips of this movie, they didn't have to film it in this way.
00:04:11.280 They didn't have to film the little girls in such a sexual way where it's zooming in
00:04:17.420 on their bodies.
00:04:19.660 There was no need for that to happen.
00:04:22.160 So when do we get to question, was that really your point?
00:04:25.880 Do we just always have to accept an artist's intention if that's what they say that it is?
00:04:29.900 Even if what they're putting out is vile and in many ways doing the opposite of what they say?
00:04:35.140 Now, I'm not saying that that was her intention, that the director was trying to make child
00:04:40.380 pornography under the guise of saying that it was about how sexualization of children
00:04:44.560 was bad. 0.57
00:04:45.180 That's not my point.
00:04:46.480 But I do have to ask that question because we kind of have to have standards in place.
00:04:50.440 Just because somebody said that it was their intention to make a movie about how sexualization
00:04:54.980 of children is bad and they had to make that point using child pornography, when do we
00:05:01.200 get to question if that was actually their point?
00:05:02.980 So I wanted to talk about Cuties and my thoughts on it because this is wrong.
00:05:07.540 This is bad.
00:05:08.940 This is child pornography that we are allowing to be just spread around when these children,
00:05:14.680 these young girls were put in a horrifying position. 0.96
00:05:18.300 And now this is going to be on the internet for the rest of their lives.
00:05:21.340 This movie is going to be a part of their lives forever that shows them in really, really
00:05:27.940 sexual positions at 11 years old.
00:05:30.660 I would love to hear your guys' thoughts on this.
00:05:32.940 I was initially really taken aback by that poster, but then to see the clips from the
00:05:37.680 actual movie, I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
00:05:40.420 And I know that people are arguing, again, that the intention of the movie is not what's
00:05:46.520 actually coming across on screen, but you filmed these little girls that way. 0.98
00:05:49.940 So I want to know what you guys think about this.
00:05:52.700 Let me know in the comments.
00:05:54.220 And now that we've focused on something pretty serious, we're going to be moving on to something
00:05:58.720 a little bit lighter.
00:05:59.820 So I wanted to talk about how Rosh Hashanah is coming up this weekend.
00:06:03.420 So Rosh Hashanah means the head of the year, and it actually is the Jewish New Year.
00:06:08.520 So hooray, it's the end of one year and we're moving into the next.
00:06:13.040 But New Year's for Jews is actually kind of a mixture of celebration as well as introspection.
00:06:18.060 We're not just hooray, it's the end of the year and we're moving into a new year.
00:06:21.340 There's actually kind of something behind it, which is that we have an idea that the
00:06:25.300 book of life and death is opened on Rosh Hashanah, and God will inscribe our name into
00:06:29.620 the book in one column or the other.
00:06:32.280 Now, it then is closed on Yom Kippur, so we have 10 days to change it and to pray, and
00:06:38.340 hopefully God will accept our repentance.
00:06:41.000 But we spend much of the day for Rosh Hashanah in synagogue praying, trying to repent for our
00:06:46.800 sins for the last year, and trying to grow as people, and I've always thought that it's 0.88
00:06:51.360 not so much a scary day because God loves us, but more a day of how can I actually improve
00:06:56.840 myself?
00:06:57.260 It's really more on me to try and understand what have I done that I didn't like, and
00:07:02.080 how would I like to grow and be better in the coming year.
00:07:04.900 One of the major parts of Rosh Hashanah is that we hear the shofar being blown.
00:07:08.800 So the shofar is actually a ram's horn, and when you blow into it, it makes a very unique
00:07:14.260 sound, so you can probably look that up if you've never heard a shofar being blown before.
00:07:18.300 And it's supposed to be a wake-up call for our souls to repent and to think about how
00:07:23.920 we can change and become better.
00:07:25.520 So Rosh Hashanah is, of course, a very important day to Jews.
00:07:28.960 It's a very important day in our calendar.
00:07:31.200 It's going to be a little bit odd this year because it's still coronavirus.
00:07:35.300 It's still a pandemic.
00:07:36.120 So I think a lot of synagogues still aren't completely open, so we're going to be praying
00:07:40.320 from home mostly, but we're also going to hopefully see just a couple of friends, you
00:07:45.100 know, in a socially distanced way.
00:07:47.160 And as well as the serious part of the holiday, we also have some beautiful traditions that
00:07:52.000 I absolutely love.
00:07:53.260 One is that we make challah, so challah is our bread.
00:07:56.740 Instead of making it just in the traditional braided way, we make it into a circle to represent
00:08:00.980 the cycle of life, and we also dip it in honey so that we can have a sweet year.
00:08:05.580 You've probably also heard of dipping apples in honey.
00:08:07.780 That's the same idea.
00:08:08.620 So I'm really looking forward to celebrating Rosh Hashanah this year, celebrating the new
00:08:12.600 year.
00:08:13.200 And actually, my husband and I started a tradition the first year that we got married that we
00:08:17.080 wanted to send our New Year's card around Rosh Hashanah rather than the secular New Year.
00:08:21.560 So we send a New Year's card every year around Rosh Hashanah, kind of updating all of our friends
00:08:26.520 about what's going on in our lives, what we're up to, and it's kind of fun to create that
00:08:31.460 on Vistaprint or Minted or whatever it is that you would like to use.
00:08:35.420 I use Vistaprint, and we like to send those out.
00:08:37.840 I'd love to hear in the comments if you guys send out New Year's cards.
00:08:40.940 It's something that we like doing because we like receiving them.
00:08:43.480 We like seeing where our friends are at and seeing pictures of what they've been up to.
00:08:46.980 But we also like being able to share with people that we're not consistently in touch with just
00:08:50.940 kind of what we've been up to and what we're doing the next year.
00:08:53.580 Next up, I wanted to talk about a small thing that Jacob and I have been doing recently,
00:08:57.700 and it's something that I have found is just really sweet and nice and gives me a lot
00:09:02.680 of joy.
00:09:03.080 So I would say that during the pandemic, things got a little bit funny in the sense
00:09:06.520 that my husband and I were watching actually more movies together than we were beforehand.
00:09:11.020 And so we would kind of watch a movie together, get ready for bed, maybe sit for just a couple
00:09:15.120 of minutes, and then go to sleep.
00:09:17.060 But recently what we've been doing is actually taking about a full hour and reading in bed
00:09:22.080 with each other.
00:09:22.680 So I'll read a book.
00:09:23.820 He'll read a book.
00:09:24.440 We'll put on some night sounds.
00:09:26.180 Oh my gosh, I've been loving ambient sounds before I go to sleep.
00:09:29.140 It makes me super relaxed.
00:09:31.720 I like campfires.
00:09:33.160 I like rain falling.
00:09:34.800 I like cricket sounds.
00:09:36.200 All that stuff just really kind of gives me some peace.
00:09:39.240 And we'll just read together.
00:09:40.480 And it's just sweet.
00:09:42.240 It's some time that we can spend kind of alone together.
00:09:45.260 That's one of my absolute favorite things about being married is spending alone time together.
00:09:50.220 We're both reading.
00:09:50.980 We're both kind of doing our own thing.
00:09:52.240 But we're in the room together.
00:09:53.400 We're both kind of sharing the same space.
00:09:55.520 And it's just been really sweet and relaxing.
00:09:58.600 And I've just really been enjoying it.
00:10:00.980 I'm hoping we can keep it up.
00:10:02.400 Of course, I know that things tend to go in cycles.
00:10:04.920 So we might end up not keeping it up for too long.
00:10:07.480 But I would like to keep it up for as long as possible.
00:10:10.060 Because I've really been enjoying it.
00:10:11.420 And it does feel very fall to me.
00:10:14.560 I don't know if it's because we're not going out so much in the evenings when it's fall time.
00:10:18.600 I don't know why I feel that way.
00:10:20.140 But that is how I feel.
00:10:21.600 Now, as far as what we've been watching, my husband and I watched The Mask.
00:10:26.240 I had never seen The Mask before.
00:10:27.880 The one with Jim Carrey and Cameron Diaz.
00:10:29.700 My husband had seen it.
00:10:30.760 But I had never seen it.
00:10:32.440 That's a really fun movie, actually.
00:10:34.520 It's not super appropriate for kids.
00:10:36.940 But it's not dirty, either. 0.76
00:10:38.460 It's just kind of, like, funny and silly.
00:10:41.060 And I thought it was a lot of fun.
00:10:43.680 I laughed a lot.
00:10:44.740 It was just enjoyable.
00:10:46.040 It didn't feel like I needed to expend a ton of energy to watch it.
00:10:50.520 But it was also something that I just had a good time watching.
00:10:53.800 Have you ever seen that movie?
00:10:54.960 Because, of course, it is a little bit older.
00:10:56.880 So it's not something that's just coming out.
00:10:59.240 But I just thought it was fun.
00:11:00.860 I liked the interplay of all the characters.
00:11:02.760 Jim Carrey was in the prime of his career at that point.
00:11:05.400 Cameron Diaz was super new to Hollywood.
00:11:07.240 I think that was actually her debut.
00:11:08.660 So that's interesting.
00:11:09.780 And it was just kind of a fun comedy that I really enjoyed.
00:11:12.620 Now, I have something to admit.
00:11:14.020 And I'm really curious to see who gets mad at me in the comments.
00:11:17.580 But I've never seen Hocus Pocus.
00:11:20.760 I've never seen it.
00:11:21.580 And I know that everyone is obsessed with it.
00:11:23.240 And they love it for this season.
00:11:24.560 And I just have never seen the movie.
00:11:26.420 I am wondering if I should watch it.
00:11:28.660 Is it worth watching?
00:11:29.720 Is it one of those movies that's, like, perfect for fall time?
00:11:32.300 And I'll just absolutely love it.
00:11:33.800 Or did you not like the movie?
00:11:35.980 Everyone I know seems to treat it like, oh, it's fall.
00:11:39.060 Time for Hocus Pocus.
00:11:40.020 Because I've never seen the movie.
00:11:41.940 So I really don't know how I feel.
00:11:43.660 And I'd love to get your guys' opinions about it.
00:11:46.480 Because, again, I have no point of reference.
00:11:49.620 So if you guys think it's worth watching, let me know in the comments below.
00:11:53.680 And last but not least, I want to know what you associate with fall the most.
00:11:58.360 Do you associate Thanksgiving with fall or Halloween with fall?
00:12:02.020 Because I think I associate Thanksgiving with fall mostly because I grew up religious.
00:12:06.940 So we didn't celebrate Halloween at all.
00:12:08.520 And I never really participated in it.
00:12:10.240 I liked seeing it from afar in the Disney sense.
00:12:13.220 I don't like the big scary haunted houses.
00:12:16.260 I don't like that.
00:12:17.200 I like the Halloween thing where it's, like, a little bit fun scary.
00:12:21.940 And it's got, you know, the smiling jack-o'-lanterns.
00:12:24.880 That I can do.
00:12:25.800 But I don't like scary, scary stuff at all.
00:12:28.500 Does not work with me.
00:12:29.700 But I just kind of liked looking at it from afar.
00:12:31.940 But I never grew up with it.
00:12:32.860 So Thanksgiving was much more up my alley.
00:12:35.060 And I always loved spending time with family.
00:12:37.000 Especially nowadays when most of us get Thanksgiving off.
00:12:40.380 So we can actually go visit our families.
00:12:42.400 And Halloween, you don't.
00:12:43.800 So I love Thanksgiving.
00:12:45.500 That's what I associate with fall.
00:12:46.620 But I'd really like to know from you guys what you associate with fall.
00:12:50.380 Halloween or Thanksgiving?
00:12:52.060 Let me know in the comments.
00:12:53.240 And that's it for today's episode of The Scoop.
00:12:55.940 Thank you guys so much for watching today's video.
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