Classically Abby - February 22, 2023


The Girl Named Blake On The Struggles Of Faith, Mental Health, And Politics ⧸⧸ Ep. 7


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

185.27446

Word Count

8,840

Sentence Count

557

Misogynist Sentences

19

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

Chatting with the girl named Blake all about being brave enough to speak your mind, balancing motherhood and breadwinning, and going viral in 2020. All this and more on today s episode of the Classically Abbey Podcast!


Transcript

00:00:00.200 Chatting with the girl named Blake, all about being brave enough to speak your mind, balancing
00:00:05.640 motherhood and breadwinning, and going viral in 2020.
00:00:09.520 All this and more on today's episode of the Classically Abbey podcast.
00:00:30.000 I'm so excited to have Blake on the podcast.
00:00:34.240 Thank you so much for coming on.
00:00:36.300 Oh, I'm so excited to chat again.
00:00:38.660 Yeah, we recently, I was on your podcast, so thank you so much for having me.
00:00:43.500 Yeah, I'm pumped about it.
00:00:44.840 Yeah, so I want to start with asking you, how did you go viral back in 2020?
00:00:53.720 And tell us a little bit about your mission, because you are such a, just an outspoken woman,
00:01:00.520 and it's so amazing to see.
00:01:02.080 So I'd really love to hear kind of what gets you up in the morning, what you want to talk
00:01:07.120 about, and how it kind of attracted people to your Instagram, to your platform.
00:01:13.500 Yeah, so I started in 2018, like with a podcast and being on Instagram, and was mostly talking
00:01:19.620 about things like mental health, and motherhood, and hustle culture, and work, and all of that
00:01:24.940 kind of stuff, 2020 hits, which we all know was just freaking insane.
00:01:30.940 It was like such a microcosm of a year, and by, let's see, the world shuts down early March,
00:01:39.120 by May, I am like, I don't know how much longer I can make it not saying the things I actually
00:01:45.680 believe publicly on the internet, right?
00:01:48.340 I'm saying all of these things in real life, like around my kitchen table, things like,
00:01:53.120 I mean, from the get, I was like, masks are a sham, they don't work against COVID, like
00:01:58.360 this is, this is like BS, like stay, you need, you don't need to stay in your house, you need
00:02:03.740 to get out in sunlight, like that, all of those things.
00:02:06.620 And I don't say that to be like, I knew before everybody else.
00:02:09.620 I grew up in a medical family, like I was just like, the box says that, that was the
00:02:15.260 first time I went viral, was when I got on the internet, and was like, hey guys, the box
00:02:19.440 says it doesn't protect against COVID, what are we doing?
00:02:23.840 Like, so that was the first time, and then from there, it was really just this waterfall
00:02:30.380 effect of continually just showing up and saying the things that I think a lot of us were thinking,
00:02:35.880 you know, about COVID or about the presidential election was a really big, you know, source
00:02:42.180 of that as well.
00:02:42.660 I love politics, I've always been deeply politically invested.
00:02:47.800 And so, you know, 2020 was really contentious within the church in that subject, just like
00:02:53.580 people were really okay saying they were voting for Biden, but you had to like, keep it a secret
00:02:57.460 if you were voting for Trump, because people were getting like canceled and doxxed and all
00:03:00.760 that kind of stuff.
00:03:01.340 And so I just came out and was like, I'm voting for Trump, this is why I'm not sorry.
00:03:04.660 And so that was kind of my 2020 was like, just pulling off the bandaid and being like,
00:03:10.140 here's all the things.
00:03:12.460 And so it was, but it was really cool, because I mean, my platform blew up in that year, because
00:03:20.220 I was, I wasn't alone, right?
00:03:22.720 So many of us felt so alone and felt so isolated from one another period, and then felt isolated
00:03:28.160 in our beliefs that I think it just kind of became this rallying point for people to be
00:03:32.540 able to be like, Oh, me too.
00:03:34.560 Okay, cool.
00:03:35.220 Like me too.
00:03:36.180 And like from a Christian perspective.
00:03:38.420 And so that was kind of 2020 was I had started two years before, but 2020 was definitely when
00:03:44.480 things kind of like, picked up and took off for sure.
00:03:48.580 Yeah, I mean, that's what attracted me to your page was just you were saying what I was
00:03:53.880 thinking.
00:03:54.360 And I was like, that's awesome.
00:03:55.740 And it's coming from a woman who is, you know, it's coming from a woman, number one,
00:04:00.680 but also a woman who shares my values.
00:04:03.260 That's so cool.
00:04:05.220 And you're a mom, you are a wife.
00:04:08.720 It's not like you have, you know, a girl boss, total mentality where you can't have those
00:04:14.380 things and also take these positions.
00:04:17.260 Right?
00:04:17.980 No, I definitely lean a lot more towards they are the most important thing in my life,
00:04:24.060 like outside of my relationship with God, like my kids and my husband come before everything.
00:04:28.420 There is, it's not even, it's not up for conversation, but also like I can do other
00:04:35.600 things.
00:04:35.900 I can prioritize that and never like not, not drop the ball, but cause I definitely dropped
00:04:40.440 the ball, but like keep the most important things, the most important things and have
00:04:44.240 other passions and have other, you know, like, I think that whole like balance is a myth.
00:04:49.300 I think that hurts women because I, I think that balance is balance and it's, it can
00:04:53.640 be off balance and you can not do it perfectly and you can do it messily, but you can still
00:04:58.600 like show up and use your gifts in a multitude of ways.
00:05:03.560 Absolutely.
00:05:04.380 I think that's so important.
00:05:05.480 I actually did a, I did an Instagram reel today on that topic, just about, I think that
00:05:10.960 there is a misconception that when, you know, I say women should have, should have children
00:05:18.400 and should get married and should prioritize those things.
00:05:20.540 That means I think they're incapable of other things.
00:05:24.140 And that is not the case.
00:05:26.260 Women of course are capable of things.
00:05:28.200 That's why we are so incredible is that we can be incredible mothers and incredible wives
00:05:32.760 and do everything else that we do.
00:05:35.140 Well, and you and I wouldn't be talking if that's what you believe.
00:05:38.300 Like you wouldn't have a podcast, you wouldn't have like a platform.
00:05:42.100 You would be a wife and a mom and there's nothing wrong with that.
00:05:44.220 Like that's such a beautiful calling.
00:05:46.820 And I don't think that everybody, you know, I think everybody in the body has different
00:05:51.460 gifts and they're not all things that need to be stretched and flexed on the internet.
00:05:55.940 But for those of us that do like, that's okay too.
00:05:58.620 It's okay.
00:05:59.120 Like it's the whole like good for her, not for me.
00:06:01.900 Like, I love that.
00:06:03.440 One of my favorite people in the world is a stay-at-home mom to four kids.
00:06:06.960 Her whole thing is wrangling the zoo and keeping her house.
00:06:12.280 And she barely even uses Instagram.
00:06:15.180 I love that about her, you know?
00:06:17.420 And so it's not better or worse.
00:06:19.020 It's just different.
00:06:20.340 Yes, absolutely.
00:06:21.800 So let's talk faith for a second.
00:06:24.380 We're going to be hopping all over the place because I feel like we overlap in so many different
00:06:27.980 ways and I'm excited to talk about all those things, but let's talk faith for a second.
00:06:32.260 So I know your faith hugely informs what you do.
00:06:36.480 Your podcast is called Confessions of a Crappy Christian.
00:06:40.480 Where did that name come from?
00:06:42.280 It came from the verses where Paul talks about God's power being made perfect in our weakness
00:06:48.960 and therefore boasting all the more about our weakness.
00:06:52.480 When I started the podcast, I really was, I was drowning.
00:06:56.860 I was drowning in motherhood.
00:06:58.200 I have had horrific postpartum anxiety after both of my girls.
00:07:02.140 I was lonely.
00:07:03.160 My husband was working like crazy.
00:07:04.740 And I, and I say this all the time, like the landscape of podcasting has changed so significantly
00:07:11.600 in the last four and a half years.
00:07:12.660 And I think we've seen it take leaps and bounds towards true vulnerability and hard conversations.
00:07:18.300 But at the time, honestly, it was kind of like a glorified Bible study.
00:07:21.800 A lot of the time, like it was all pretty like superficial.
00:07:24.460 And I, at the time, like really needed conversations on mental health.
00:07:28.640 I was like, that's what I need.
00:07:30.560 And so I was like, I'll show up and say, I don't know how I'm going to make it, make it through
00:07:35.060 tomorrow other than God.
00:07:36.340 And, and got to have these really incredible conversations with people who had also like
00:07:40.800 gone through the fire or were in the fire and also like hustle culture and the idea of
00:07:45.320 hard work and, and, but not like burning yourself out for the sake of chasing a dollar or some
00:07:50.660 kind of recognition.
00:07:51.460 And so it really just, it started.
00:07:54.980 And honestly, I'm so proud and thankful that it's really stayed true to its original mission
00:08:01.220 of like, this is a place, this is a safe place to land with your questions.
00:08:05.380 This is a safe place to land with your doubts and your struggles.
00:08:09.380 And I'm not saying that I'm going to have all the answers.
00:08:11.880 Maybe somebody I know does, uh, like I'll share all my friends with you.
00:08:16.100 And we're just like, we're all in the same team.
00:08:17.980 We're all like, we're all just trying to do the best we can with what we got.
00:08:21.580 And God made me talkative.
00:08:24.020 And so I'm going to, I'm going to use it that way.
00:08:27.900 That's incredible.
00:08:29.160 Also, yes, I think that that's so important.
00:08:31.900 And I really value that side of social media because we're always seeing the highlight reel.
00:08:37.440 We always use that phrase, the highlight reel, but what's so important for us to see is also
00:08:42.420 that people are human and we're all struggling sometimes.
00:08:45.600 And we're all working through this life and hearing somebody going through those same struggles
00:08:52.140 who also shares what we're, what we believe in.
00:08:56.060 That's, that's wonderful.
00:08:57.840 That's so wonderful.
00:08:59.560 Yeah.
00:08:59.940 Yeah.
00:09:00.360 And it's, you know, the, the highest compliment that anything I do is given is just like,
00:09:05.860 it made me feel seen.
00:09:07.240 Or I walked away from church because of this X, Y, Z experience, but you've kind of got me
00:09:13.920 like curious or looking at my Bible or, you know, so I think we see in the, in the Bible,
00:09:21.140 we see in the early church that there were, there were disciples and apostles who, who
00:09:26.140 proselytized to the Jews.
00:09:27.720 And there were the ones that went to the Gentiles.
00:09:29.360 There are people that are, but I think their gifting is the equipping of the saints.
00:09:35.340 And I think that there are people whose gift is like for the people in the fringes and being
00:09:39.680 like, yo, like you're good, come on, like just come with all your crap.
00:09:44.160 Don't plan to stay that way.
00:09:45.860 And that's kind of the, the bridge that we're kind of getting to build.
00:09:51.120 Yes, yes, definitely.
00:09:52.800 And I remember I, I did a post early on, um, when I was still back in Nebraska and I lived
00:09:58.300 in Omaha, I remember I had been doing all of my content about how to be a classic woman.
00:10:03.620 And there was a day that I was just absolutely the least classic human being on the planet.
00:10:08.020 And I said to my husband, I'm like, if anyone saw me, I would be a failure.
00:10:13.480 And he was like, you know, you don't have to be perfect to be aiming for an ideal.
00:10:17.940 Like you can say, this is the goal.
00:10:20.740 I'm not always at that goal or reaching that goal.
00:10:23.800 This is just what we would like to do.
00:10:26.140 And it's okay to not always be there.
00:10:28.800 And I was like, oh, that's actually very helpful.
00:10:33.120 Yes.
00:10:33.840 Well, and how helpful to the people who are following you.
00:10:36.620 So, you know, I think that is, you said that earlier, kind of can be the downside of social
00:10:41.100 media is it is easier to show up when you're landing it.
00:10:44.900 Like when you're sticking it, it's easier to show up, but people need to see you not stick
00:10:49.780 it.
00:10:50.380 Like they need to, can you tell, I come from a gymnast family, like, like people need to
00:10:55.060 see you not do it perfectly so that they know when, when they inevitably don't, that they
00:11:00.660 don't need to like give up, that they're not a failure, that God's not disappointed in them,
00:11:04.520 that they're human and like, all right, let's get back on the horse.
00:11:08.700 Exactly.
00:11:09.540 Exactly.
00:11:10.400 So I wanted to mention something I saw on your website.
00:11:13.680 You wrote, you described yourself as too conservative for progressives and too progressive for
00:11:19.000 conservatives.
00:11:19.880 Can you talk more about that?
00:11:22.500 Yes.
00:11:22.920 So grew up in the South, in the Bible Belt, in a very Republican family.
00:11:30.500 And I love that.
00:11:31.880 I, there, I don't, I hold no ill will towards any kind of party or anything like that.
00:11:38.640 I just, in the last, like probably five or six years realized that there were things about
00:11:46.140 the Republican conservative party line that I don't agree with.
00:11:50.120 And that like, I, my life experience informs that that is not always the best way or thing,
00:12:01.400 but then also I'm not willing to bend on the things that I do believe and the things that are
00:12:08.580 based in scripture that are required of you.
00:12:11.940 If you want to align with the more progressive or liberal side.
00:12:15.060 So it's just this fun middle ground where they all don't like you.
00:12:18.600 Like they're all mad at you, but there's also this really sweet, like crew that's starting to
00:12:26.580 accumulate.
00:12:27.100 I think as both ends of the spectrum move more and more radical, there's more people who feel
00:12:32.800 politically homeless essentially.
00:12:35.120 Um, and so, yeah, I'm just, I'm an equal opportunity offender is what it really boils
00:12:42.740 down to.
00:12:43.960 Yeah.
00:12:44.140 Well, and I think that it's, it's good to know where you stand on all issues, as opposed
00:12:49.200 to saying I'm a conservative and I'm throwing all of my eggs in that basket, no matter what
00:12:54.820 those positions are, I'm, I'm part of it.
00:12:57.840 And you don't even think about it.
00:12:59.040 And I think that that's an issue is that people kind of, they want to pass the buck on them
00:13:05.100 having to actually consider their, their opinions and their positions and there's something good.
00:13:12.480 Yeah.
00:13:12.900 I think that's present in both, like both ends of the spectrum or like it's either, it's
00:13:18.060 either like it was your upbringing.
00:13:19.420 So you just believe what your parents believed or you completely rejected what your parents
00:13:23.780 believed and, and adopted a new set of beliefs.
00:13:26.840 And like it, honestly, you're just like, you're trading one indoctrination for the other, right?
00:13:31.340 You're like trading one religion, like conservatives, their religion may more than often not be
00:13:37.640 Christianity.
00:13:38.420 And like, there is a religion of like the worship of, of self and the world.
00:13:44.340 Like it's all where you're trading one thing for the other and both think they're right.
00:13:50.860 Like if you talk to a, like a true blue liberal, like they think that they are right.
00:13:57.080 And so I can think you're wrong and still not need to like be a jerk about it, you know?
00:14:03.740 Also true.
00:14:04.880 And I think that it's usually not going to be as effective to be a jerk to somebody who
00:14:10.380 you disagree with, uh, than it is to be, I always say using, I use the term gentle guidance
00:14:15.720 usually when I'm like, Oh, you and I disagree.
00:14:18.460 Well, here's why I think what I think, maybe that gives you an opportunity to change your
00:14:23.660 mind as opposed to you're just dumb.
00:14:26.640 Right.
00:14:27.460 Exactly.
00:14:28.720 Yeah.
00:14:29.920 So men and women are different.
00:14:32.520 Uh, I think we can both agree on that.
00:14:34.980 There's, uh, you know, there's a place for men, there's a place for women.
00:14:38.420 We have different roles, but we're also both incredibly strong.
00:14:41.380 So what, in what ways are women strong and what should we love about our role as women?
00:14:49.540 So my favorite thing to say about this subject is if you've ever seen my big fat Greek wedding,
00:14:54.380 where the mother gives the advice of like, the man is the head, but the woman is the neck.
00:14:59.660 Like she turns the head from side to side.
00:15:01.980 I actually did an episode on my podcast this week when we're recording about women and women
00:15:07.400 in the church and how our obsession with what we can or cannot do by biblical standards,
00:15:13.120 because we're so focused on that, we're missing the opportunity to do all of these really
00:15:19.260 incredible, impactful things that scripture like lays out for us and that God has put before us,
00:15:24.940 you know?
00:15:25.180 And so I do hold like the relatively traditional conservative belief that I don't think that
00:15:32.380 women should be in authority over men or in teaching positions over men, but that doesn't
00:15:39.740 mean that I don't think that women should have a seat at the table, that their voices should
00:15:43.740 be heard in decisions, administratively ministry, like throughout the church and throughout like
00:15:50.880 copy and paste that over to your home.
00:15:54.320 Like at the end of the day, my husband is the head of our household and he is the leader
00:15:59.420 and I am going to submit to him, but he also listens to what I have to say and he values
00:16:05.620 my opinion.
00:16:06.300 And he knows that like, I fully believe women have more discernment than men.
00:16:10.220 Like I will, I'll hot take say that, you know, and I think he sees that and knows that
00:16:15.420 and listens to that.
00:16:16.360 He's learned from experience that like that mom gut, which is actually the Holy spirit counts
00:16:22.960 for something.
00:16:24.560 And so I think it's just a matter of, well, I don't want to be a man.
00:16:27.560 I don't want that responsibility.
00:16:29.500 I'm not created that way.
00:16:31.520 So I'm going to like fully step into what God, like God created women for a purpose.
00:16:38.300 And it is a powerful, impactful, world changing purpose.
00:16:45.300 I'm going to focus on that versus like what I can't do or can't be.
00:16:48.500 I love it.
00:16:50.160 And I think I, you know, what you were talking about that you talked about on your podcast,
00:16:54.340 I find this issue in the Jewish community as well.
00:16:57.180 And it's often very, very potent in the Jewish community where women are like, why can't
00:17:01.540 we do a B C D E?
00:17:03.360 Cause there are like a whole list of things that men have commandments to do that women
00:17:08.780 don't.
00:17:09.320 Now there's kind of a misconception that women are not allowed to do those things because
00:17:14.940 we're lesser than, but it's actually that men have to do those, have to do those things
00:17:20.940 because they are not as holy and close to God.
00:17:23.860 So they have to do these actions that bring them closer to God because women are naturally
00:17:28.520 closer to God.
00:17:29.300 So women don't need, don't need to do them.
00:17:31.720 It's not that we don't get to do them.
00:17:33.440 It's that we don't have to.
00:17:35.220 And I always loved that because it's like, you know, we have a different connection to
00:17:40.160 God through just, we are, this is something, an idea that I really love is we have an understanding
00:17:47.400 of God that men don't because we do the act of creation by growing children and raising
00:17:52.540 them.
00:17:53.180 So that brings us closer to God, just innately.
00:17:56.040 And men don't have that same luxury.
00:17:57.940 So they have to, they have to go to synagogue three times a day and they have to like do the
00:18:03.160 Torah reading and they have to do a lot more than we do.
00:18:06.840 It's just an interesting concept.
00:18:08.500 It is.
00:18:09.560 Well, and I think simultaneously, like there are, there are characteristics of God that
00:18:13.780 are more present in men as like leadership and decision making.
00:18:18.560 And like, like essentially when I read the, how God laid out that relationship in scripture,
00:18:25.080 like men stand in front of women, right?
00:18:28.120 Like they stand in front of women to allow us like in a protective way, not in a, like
00:18:35.400 I'm casting my shadow or you're beneath me.
00:18:38.140 It's like, no, it's their responsibility to protect us, to love us the way that Christ
00:18:42.020 loved the church, which is a massive responsibility because he, I mean, in the end laid down his
00:18:46.820 life to allow women to do like, like you're saying, to be more connected to the Holy spirit
00:18:53.140 and have that discernment and like hear those things from him.
00:18:56.200 And so I think like we both serve these really holy, incredible purposes.
00:19:02.080 And I think we, it would be easier to walk in them if we would stop focusing on like what
00:19:07.340 the other person is doing or not doing.
00:19:09.440 Yes.
00:19:10.440 Yeah.
00:19:11.440 I think that's exactly right.
00:19:12.440 So you, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you're the primary breadwinner
00:19:18.120 through your content.
00:19:20.120 So how do you balance all of your responsibilities?
00:19:23.320 I mean, we kind of touched on this a little bit, how you prioritization and all of that, but
00:19:27.240 how do you actually, in practical terms, balance your responsibilities as a wife and a mom and
00:19:33.240 a content creator?
00:19:34.620 And this is kind of like a bonus part of this, but how does that affect your relationship with
00:19:39.560 your husband?
00:19:40.100 I'm just curious.
00:19:40.860 Cause that's, you know, we, so as far as like balancing it, we, um, I worked really,
00:19:50.360 really hard for a couple of years, like maybe too hard.
00:19:53.720 Like I went real hard for the first three ish years.
00:19:59.400 Uh, and it, I don't have any regrets.
00:20:01.660 I think I had like the stamina and my kids were in school.
00:20:05.300 And so I really like, I, and also I just have a, I don't know how to do things halfway.
00:20:10.540 And so I just like really went at it.
00:20:13.480 And so I have had the essentially like luxury of the last year, 18 months of kind of getting
00:20:21.520 to experience the harvest of what I had sown.
00:20:26.960 Um, but even still, like, I mean, and so I am the primary breadwinner.
00:20:32.580 My husband actually just started his own like entrepreneurial journey a couple of weeks ago.
00:20:37.260 So our family dynamic is shifting, which is really cool and really exciting.
00:20:40.540 But in that trans, you know, there's always that like weird limbo transition period where
00:20:45.960 right now, like I am the primary breadwinner and also like he's working out of the home.
00:20:50.700 So I'm taking on more like home and motherhood duties.
00:20:54.360 And I was, it's so funny that you asked this question because I was literally just talking
00:20:57.580 to him about this earlier in the week.
00:20:58.900 Like I had to draw some really hard and fast boundaries that require a lot of self-control.
00:21:03.540 Like I log in and I log out and yeah, like maybe outside of those hours, I think of something
00:21:09.160 and I want to post it and I can get all my stories and put it up really quick or run to
00:21:13.160 my computer and like write an email.
00:21:14.580 But by and large, like I've been like logging in at nine and logging out at four and like
00:21:20.620 working it, like treating it like it's a job.
00:21:24.120 And that has been how, like how I've been able to find balance is like, even when it would
00:21:31.920 be easier to like zone out and scroll through Instagram and answer DMS, like I want to be
00:21:38.520 intentional and I want to be present.
00:21:39.720 And so it's just like the, the prioritization and boundaries, like, and taking your thoughts
00:21:45.760 captive and, and all of that kind of stuff, just being able to be like, what is my identity?
00:21:51.020 And my identity is one in what God says about me.
00:21:53.620 So I don't need social media to affirm that.
00:21:56.880 I also don't need my children to affirm that.
00:21:59.160 So like, I'm going to, I'm going to treat the, I want to store this responsibly, I guess
00:22:05.160 is what I say.
00:22:05.800 I'm saying, and I've had seasons where I didn't do that.
00:22:09.580 And like all those studies that tell you that social media is really bad for your mental
00:22:13.480 health.
00:22:13.740 Like the, that data comes from somewhere, right?
00:22:16.260 Like, so I've experienced that side of it as well.
00:22:19.840 And I don't want to be there.
00:22:21.160 I don't want to be like being beaten up in my brain by the internet all day.
00:22:25.520 And then I have nothing to give the people that mean the most to me in the end.
00:22:28.960 Um, so yeah, that's kind of totally right.
00:22:33.340 Yeah.
00:22:33.800 Like just, it's about boundaries and yeah.
00:22:37.560 And I know that with me, for me, social media, you know, the number of times I have said like,
00:22:43.000 I need to be better with my phone and then I'm home alone all day and I don't have a
00:22:48.360 lot of people around me.
00:22:49.080 So I'm like, I have my baby.
00:22:50.620 So I'm like, okay, well, I guess I can hop on here for a minute.
00:22:53.260 Well, why, why do I have to?
00:22:55.680 So I think treating it with, you know, I think the truth is even outside of work, use drawing
00:23:02.260 boundaries with your phone is important because I think, let's say you say, okay, I'm going
00:23:06.160 to use it nine to four or five in the afternoon and then I'm done.
00:23:09.420 And the phone is going away.
00:23:11.260 Like it doesn't have to just be about work.
00:23:13.280 It can be about, um, being online.
00:23:16.260 Oh yeah.
00:23:16.880 I mean, that's, so we, when this transition and again, it just started two weeks ago.
00:23:21.700 So like maybe circle back in a month and we'll see how things are going.
00:23:25.880 But I pretty much drew a line with everybody and like the people, you know, like the people
00:23:30.020 that I talk to the most, my parents and my best friends, I was like, Hey, I'm putting
00:23:32.980 my phone away at four.
00:23:33.860 Like, if you need me, call me twice and it'll ring, you know, like how your phone will like
00:23:39.740 on the second call, it'll let it through like an emergency call.
00:23:42.560 But otherwise, like, because we're so freaking over-connected and over-saturated.
00:23:47.600 And then like, that makes it impossible to be with your, with your people.
00:23:52.180 And to your question about like our dynamic, it, my husband is a unicorn.
00:23:57.080 Like I married one of those ones where people are like, where did he come from?
00:24:01.800 Like, how is he so wonderful?
00:24:04.040 He's not perfect.
00:24:04.860 And we definitely butt heads on stuff, but he has never cared.
00:24:09.560 Like he, it has never been like a decrease in his masculinity or his leadership that I
00:24:15.540 made more money than him or was the only one making money.
00:24:18.900 He jokingly will be like in the early day, in the end, he got bored, right?
00:24:24.400 Like in the end, he just wanted something of his own to do.
00:24:26.940 And I love that for him.
00:24:28.160 And I'm so proud of him, but for the last eight months, like he's really been Mr.
00:24:32.280 Mom and, and just been like doing carpool and doing laundry and keeping the house clean.
00:24:37.740 And he's like, I will do this all day.
00:24:42.640 Like, if you want to like, just keep being the one that makes us money, you know?
00:24:46.480 So that was not, thankfully that was like not one of the hurdles we had to jump.
00:24:51.480 That's awesome.
00:24:52.400 That's a huge blessing.
00:24:53.620 It is.
00:24:54.520 It really is.
00:24:56.120 So last question here, uh, you got married pretty young and had your children pretty young.
00:25:02.120 So what's your advice for young women dating in today's day and age and any marriage advice
00:25:09.260 you want to share?
00:25:10.820 Yeah, I, uh, it's so funny because my sister and my dad had an outstanding bet that I wouldn't
00:25:17.580 get married until I was 30.
00:25:18.920 And so when I got married at 22, one of them had to pay the other $50.
00:25:24.160 So it was definitely not like, I was not the little girl that was like, I'm going to get
00:25:28.120 married.
00:25:28.720 Like I wanted to go to law school.
00:25:30.000 I had all these things I wanted to do.
00:25:31.980 And then I like met this man and was like, I want to be with you 24 seven.
00:25:36.380 We were literally talking about that the other night where it was like, we got married because
00:25:40.160 we were instantly best friends and just obsessed with each other.
00:25:43.480 And it was like, I'm sick of saying good night.
00:25:44.800 Like I'm sick of going our separate ways.
00:25:47.060 Well, and like, I wanted to have sex with them.
00:25:49.300 Like, obviously, you know, and like, we were, we were better, we're better together.
00:25:54.500 Like we're better together than we were apart.
00:25:56.420 And I think, I, I think this can be very dependent on like where you grew up.
00:26:01.480 Right.
00:26:01.800 Cause I grew up in a place where girls got engaged their senior year and then got married that
00:26:06.360 summer.
00:26:06.860 Right.
00:26:07.260 Like that was the like running thing.
00:26:09.060 And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
00:26:11.320 I essentially followed that path.
00:26:13.220 I think it's just like real releasing that the best advice I ever got was like, run your
00:26:19.760 race, like keep your eyes on Jesus and run your race.
00:26:23.780 And at some point, like, you'll know that you should look from side to side and there
00:26:27.860 will be people running their race next to you.
00:26:30.800 Like, those are the people that you want to like consider dating or doing life with.
00:26:37.080 Like, and I think, you know, that's a whole podcast episode probably of how much the church
00:26:43.860 hasn't done a great job.
00:26:45.000 Like the church has strangely prioritized that.
00:26:48.000 Like I have no regrets over getting married young.
00:26:50.400 I think I was supposed to get married young.
00:26:52.020 Cause I think I would have been wild if I hadn't.
00:26:53.920 I think we would, I think I would have some not great stories probably if I hadn't got married
00:26:58.700 as young as I did.
00:26:59.640 But I don't think that that's everybody's experience and everybody's story.
00:27:05.400 And I think like run your race, do the next right thing, like keep your eyes on Jesus and
00:27:10.700 what he has next for you.
00:27:11.960 And if that's something that enters your orbit, that's awesome.
00:27:16.160 You know, like that's great.
00:27:17.720 Um, as far as marriage advice, I really think our primary one was like, we just had to learn
00:27:23.140 each other's love languages because they were foreign languages to us.
00:27:26.500 Like his love language was a foreign language to me 10 years ago.
00:27:30.440 And we have gotten into like more disagreements and more misunderstandings because we just
00:27:35.880 spoke different languages.
00:27:38.040 And now thankfully 12 years in, like we still jack it up sometimes, but by and large, we've
00:27:43.180 like learned like, how does this person feel love?
00:27:46.440 How do they receive love?
00:27:47.200 How do they give love?
00:27:49.040 That's been hugely helpful for us.
00:27:53.120 Yeah, I think.
00:27:54.180 Yeah, I know that for me and my husband, we constantly have the conversation about love
00:28:00.460 languages.
00:28:01.360 And the problem is we both speak multiple, like very strongly.
00:28:06.640 So we'll be like, that wasn't what I was looking for at this moment.
00:28:11.280 Good try, but like not relevant right now.
00:28:14.080 Yeah.
00:28:14.540 Yeah.
00:28:14.920 Didn't land it.
00:28:17.020 Didn't stick it, as you would say.
00:28:18.440 Yeah, exactly.
00:28:20.120 So now we're going to move on to today's faith talk.
00:28:24.060 So this week's Torah portion is Mishpatim, which means ordinances.
00:28:28.780 And here's the summary of this week's Parsha from Chabad's website.
00:28:32.880 Following the revelation at Sinai, God legislates a series of laws for the people of Israel.
00:28:38.420 These include the laws of the indentured servant, the penalties for murder, kidnapping, assault
00:28:43.360 and theft, civil laws pertaining to redress of damages, the granting of loans and the responsibilities
00:28:48.820 of the four guardians and the rules governing the conduct of justice by courts of law.
00:28:53.820 There's a lot of other laws that I'm actually not going to read because there's just a lot
00:28:57.900 of them.
00:28:59.220 This is not my favorite Torah portion, to be honest, just because it is mostly laws.
00:29:03.120 But then we get into God promising to bring the people of Israel to the Holy Land, and
00:29:09.220 he warns them against assuming the pagan ways of its current inhabitants.
00:29:13.340 The people of Israel proclaim, we will do and we will hear all that God commands us.
00:29:18.300 Leaving Aaron and her in charge in the Israelite camp, Moses ascends Mount Sinai and remains
00:29:24.240 there for 40 days and 40 nights to receive the Torah from God.
00:29:26.840 So, what we're going to talk about today is this very important phrase, we will do and
00:29:33.800 we will hear all that God commands us.
00:29:36.420 This is something we talk about a lot in the Jewish faith.
00:29:39.960 We've heard this, I heard this phrase growing up like all day long, every day of my life
00:29:45.020 I heard it.
00:29:45.960 And it seems crazy because you kind of sound like it's backwards.
00:29:51.520 We will do and we will hear.
00:29:53.720 Shouldn't it be we will hear and we will do?
00:29:55.320 Like we will hear the commandments and then we will do them.
00:29:59.420 We are often taught in Jewish day school that it's a huge lesson in faith for us that the
00:30:04.100 Jews accepted God's word without even knowing what it would be in a sense and that we were
00:30:09.080 willing to go forth and trust in him, even if we didn't understand it.
00:30:12.480 And I do love that lesson and it's what I grew up on, but I have another interpretation.
00:30:17.200 So, nishma, which is the Hebrew word for we will hear, also has a different definition,
00:30:24.460 which is we will understand.
00:30:26.480 So, the idea is when the Jews say we will do and we will understand, they are sharing
00:30:32.960 a deep insight into practice.
00:30:36.700 We can fulfill the commandments and in so doing, we understand them.
00:30:42.220 The very act of doing teaches us in our hearts their importance.
00:30:47.700 And this is, I feel like, so relevant to us in today's day and age.
00:30:52.420 There's so many things that you can't understand until you do it.
00:30:56.520 Motherhood, I feel like, is such an obvious one.
00:30:59.560 And I mean, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, but I've been thinking about this
00:31:02.800 lately is this idea that there is no way to describe to someone.
00:31:08.060 If someone had tried to describe to me and people did what motherhood would be like and
00:31:12.020 why it was so, you know, amazing, I would not be able to comprehend it.
00:31:17.600 Until I did it, I was not able to comprehend it.
00:31:20.460 You know what I mean?
00:31:21.620 Oh, 100%.
00:31:22.520 I was just thinking about that the other day because I'm kind of coming out of the motherhood
00:31:27.840 woods a little bit of those, like, little years.
00:31:30.540 Like, my kids can wipe their own butts and, like, get their own snacks and get their own
00:31:35.100 water and kind of, like, put themselves to bed, wash their hair, like, that kind of stuff.
00:31:40.560 And so I'm seeing, like, oh, wow, like, you really do come out of the woods and you gain
00:31:45.600 a little bit of yourself back and your independence back and those kinds of things.
00:31:50.080 And then I was sitting there thinking, oh, yeah, people tried to tell me that.
00:31:53.380 Like, moms tried to tell me that, like, it gets better and not better.
00:31:58.340 It's not better.
00:31:59.000 It's different.
00:31:59.740 Like, it gets, like, easier and harder, right?
00:32:02.680 Like, having older kids, it brings a different set of problems, but I'm like, oh, yeah, like,
00:32:07.980 they tried to tell me, but I had to live it out first.
00:32:11.180 So I think that's definitely, I think that should stop us from telling people, like, that
00:32:17.160 are coming behind us, motherhood, marriage, faith, prayer, like, whatever.
00:32:22.800 But also, I think, like, for the tellers, there is some grace to give as well.
00:32:27.780 Like, sometimes you just got to live it out.
00:32:29.920 Like, sometimes you got to walk it out.
00:32:32.140 Right.
00:32:32.680 And I feel like this kind of spans the gamut from things that have not nothing to do with
00:32:37.620 faith, because everything is, like, in within a faith.
00:32:40.420 Right.
00:32:40.640 When you're living a faith-filled life, everything is within that, but that are sort of separate
00:32:44.860 from that.
00:32:45.420 So, like, why you should move to a community, why that's actually really great when you get
00:32:50.620 there.
00:32:51.100 Oh, right.
00:32:52.060 There are, like, people who I can see all the time.
00:32:54.700 And, like, I can go to synagogue and see my friends or go to church and see my people.
00:32:59.420 Like, that's something you don't understand until you're in it.
00:33:03.640 And then there's the stuff that's, like, actual practice, where it's like, why do we pray?
00:33:07.940 Why do I have to sit and talk to God?
00:33:10.920 Like, does this actually do anything?
00:33:13.840 And in the doing of it, you're like, oh, actually, this is not.
00:33:18.160 Yeah.
00:33:18.300 Right.
00:33:18.640 Like, I'm learning something.
00:33:20.180 I'm learning.
00:33:20.720 I'm growing as a person.
00:33:22.060 I'm deepening my relationship to God.
00:33:23.960 It's such an interesting thing that we can learn in the doing something that we couldn't
00:33:29.780 have learned just by somebody trying to teach us.
00:33:32.540 And it's like, maybe that's a little bit of a, it lessens the burden on us as parents
00:33:36.600 a little bit.
00:33:37.700 Oh, right.
00:33:38.740 Amen.
00:33:39.060 Because I think as parents, I know my son isn't old enough yet, but, you know, I cannot
00:33:46.260 imagine the point at which I'm trying to explain to him why something that feels like it would
00:33:50.680 be fun and attractive and great is actually not none of those things.
00:33:55.740 Yes.
00:33:56.200 So he may have to make those mistakes on his own, unfortunately.
00:34:00.240 Yeah.
00:34:00.760 Which, like, I think that you can only protect them to a certain point, right?
00:34:05.480 Like, they're like, this is proving there are some things that you have to learn by doing.
00:34:10.280 Yeah.
00:34:11.060 Yeah.
00:34:11.380 And I appreciate that so much of parenthood is also stuff that we can learn from God because
00:34:19.440 God is our father.
00:34:21.220 So we can kind of see how, yeah, like he doesn't, God can tell us in the Torah or in the Bible
00:34:27.780 in the New Testament, you know, this is how you should live your life and this is why
00:34:32.720 and this is what you should do.
00:34:33.740 And, you know, we're 17 and stupid and we want to do fun things.
00:34:38.060 Right.
00:34:38.820 Exactly.
00:34:40.100 Exactly.
00:34:41.660 Oh, man.
00:34:42.800 So, yeah, that's today's Faith Talk.
00:34:46.300 And let's move into our premium subscriber questions.
00:34:49.600 If you would like to submit questions for future episodes of the Classically Abbey podcast,
00:34:54.260 make sure to head over to classicallyabbey.substack.com where you'll get access to a ton of exclusive
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00:35:04.180 for podcasts just like this.
00:35:06.580 So I'm very excited to ask these questions because they are directed towards you from my
00:35:10.520 amazing subscribers.
00:35:12.580 So number one is Abbey often says on her podcast that happiness is possible in the mundane
00:35:18.700 for moms.
00:35:19.380 What are some small ways you think moms can invite novelty into their routines?
00:35:25.240 Oh, I love that question.
00:35:27.480 I just started, I don't know, if this isn't the right, like the answer that you're looking
00:35:32.200 for, you can tell me.
00:35:32.980 But I just started like making a big deal out of the small holidays.
00:35:37.500 Like I love it Valentine's day.
00:35:40.500 Like I did the heart pancakes and we decorated and then we got balloons.
00:35:45.160 Like it doesn't have to be a money thing.
00:35:47.380 We just have started.
00:35:48.780 And even like the, my dad is like the best grandfather in the world.
00:35:52.820 And he has one of those calendars that tells you like what every day is, you know?
00:35:56.980 And so like, he'll text us and be like, it's chocolate chip cookie day.
00:35:59.560 And we'll be like, let's go get some chocolate chip cookies.
00:36:01.360 Like that kind of stuff has been really fun.
00:36:04.140 And then also inviting them into the things that interest us has been something that's
00:36:10.200 been really fun.
00:36:10.800 Like I love puzzles.
00:36:12.000 And so the girls will sit with me and like, help me like find the edges or like we'll bake
00:36:18.220 together or my oldest and I have started running together, like inviting them into the things
00:36:24.800 that you kind of, I think it would be natural to be like, this is mine.
00:36:28.760 And that doesn't mean that it's not yours.
00:36:30.580 Like I still love putting them to bed and doing a puzzle by myself, but it's been really
00:36:35.920 sweet, like incorporating them into those things as well as just being like, I don't
00:36:41.300 know, like, oh, it's just like a random Wednesday, but it's hot dog, national hot dog day.
00:36:46.720 Let's grow hot dogs and like, you know, celebrate just like making life a celebration, I guess
00:36:53.600 has been really fun.
00:36:56.180 Yeah.
00:36:56.360 Yes.
00:36:56.920 I, we never did Valentine's.
00:36:59.360 Okay.
00:36:59.500 So here's my story about Valentine's.
00:37:01.020 I love the idea of like playing up those holidays more.
00:37:04.700 I didn't used to be that kind of a person.
00:37:07.200 And now I'm like, no, I really like this.
00:37:10.700 Yeah.
00:37:11.120 So my story with Valentine's is that growing up, my parents were like, every day is Valentine's.
00:37:16.120 We don't need Valentine's.
00:37:17.460 And as I got older and other people were celebrating it, I was like, oh, it'd be nice to like get a
00:37:22.360 little something.
00:37:22.980 So this year I said to my husband, I was like, here's the deal.
00:37:27.300 I don't deeply care about Valentine's day.
00:37:30.660 It would make me happy if you just got me some flowers.
00:37:34.420 Like that's all I need.
00:37:35.540 Just if you get me flowers, I will feel loved.
00:37:38.680 And then it ended up kind of snowballing where it was like, okay, we're going to go to dinner.
00:37:42.500 And then, okay.
00:37:43.320 Like with the baby, we brought our baby along.
00:37:45.500 And then it was like, oh, after he goes to sleep, we're going to bake some cookies and
00:37:49.720 we're going to play Hogwarts Legacy.
00:37:53.500 We were just like, that was our evening.
00:37:55.480 It was dedicated to each other.
00:37:56.740 We did something kind of fun and it was just so sweet.
00:38:00.100 And I will remember that Valentine's day because we did something for it.
00:38:04.360 Yeah.
00:38:04.780 And it wasn't even like y'all spent a bunch of money or did anything extravagant.
00:38:08.940 Like we literally, I put like a garland up and got some balloons and like got a heart
00:38:14.780 shaped waffle maker.
00:38:15.920 Like I probably spent in total $30 on Valentine's day.
00:38:20.100 But you have to also remember like being a kid, everything was magical.
00:38:24.860 Like everything was magical.
00:38:26.360 And so just putting a little bit of extra effort and time into it, I'm like really excited
00:38:32.640 about St. Patrick's day.
00:38:33.580 We have very Irish heritage.
00:38:34.800 And so I'm like, we're doing St. Patrick's day.
00:38:37.460 Like we're doing the same thing, you know, like, and there's basically a holiday every
00:38:41.060 month.
00:38:41.420 So you can like find something to hype up pretty much every month.
00:38:45.400 I love that advice because it's not, you know, oh, well, if you're looking for novelty,
00:38:51.000 take a vacation every, every two weeks or like do a date night, which is like a more
00:38:55.460 typical piece of advice, it's that is novelty is just making a Thursday, a special day, because
00:39:03.200 it happens to be some holiday that maybe you don't care deeply about, but it actually
00:39:06.620 becomes something really fun.
00:39:08.500 Right.
00:39:08.660 Well, and my kids are hopefully like my kids will remember that the hope is that like
00:39:12.080 when my kids are older, they're like, oh my gosh, my parents made the biggest deal about
00:39:14.940 everything.
00:39:15.240 And it was so awesome.
00:39:16.060 Like, and then like your hand, like you're creating a legacy of celebration, which is like
00:39:21.560 that is God.
00:39:22.560 That is part of God.
00:39:23.640 Like God is a God of celebration and of joy and of like togetherness.
00:39:27.600 And so it's just continuing that and kind of passing it on.
00:39:32.580 Yes.
00:39:33.140 Yeah.
00:39:33.460 That is so great.
00:39:34.280 That's so great.
00:39:35.320 Okay.
00:39:35.560 So this is a funny one.
00:39:37.020 What do you think about guys named Blake?
00:39:41.860 So, I mean, obviously I, I have known that I had a dude's name my whole life.
00:39:47.040 I've, there's a really funny story of when, uh, I was like, I was probably like 13, 14.
00:39:52.320 I went to my first, first like sleep away camp and I show up and like, it's chaos.
00:39:58.220 And I've got my big double back.
00:39:59.300 It's like the beginning of parent trap with Lindsay Lohan.
00:40:02.320 Like got like my big double back.
00:40:03.900 That was exactly what I pictured.
00:40:05.540 Exactly.
00:40:06.000 Like that is, that's a very good depiction.
00:40:08.000 Cause that's exactly what it was.
00:40:09.940 And they, you know, like the, the camp coordinator with our megaphones, like you're in cabin three.
00:40:16.300 And I walked to cabin three and I opened the door and it's a cabin full of boys.
00:40:21.280 And because they just like not looked at the gender that was assigned when I like signed up.
00:40:27.580 And so they just put me in a dude's cabin.
00:40:29.860 And I remember like, I literally dropped my bag and like turned around and walked out
00:40:34.260 and like went and found a camp counselor.
00:40:36.240 And I was like, I think there's been a mistake.
00:40:38.600 And so that's, I mean, I got harassed.
00:40:42.300 I got like made so much fun of when I was a kid for it.
00:40:45.320 But as an adult, I love both of my girls have unisex names.
00:40:49.600 So I don't, I don't have any kind of feelings about dudes during named Blake.
00:40:53.600 Like how do the dude's name Blake feel about girls named Blake?
00:40:56.420 I don't know.
00:40:57.860 It's so funny.
00:40:58.680 Cause it's, I'm so used to unisex names that I didn't even like your handle.
00:41:04.900 It didn't even click.
00:41:05.860 I was just like, oh, that's your handle.
00:41:07.280 The girl named Blake.
00:41:08.020 Like, okay.
00:41:09.240 Yeah.
00:41:09.680 Like it didn't even click to me that Blake is also a boy's name.
00:41:13.180 But I had to make it that because people continually thought I was a man.
00:41:17.200 Right.
00:41:17.640 Right.
00:41:18.160 It didn't even occur.
00:41:19.040 And now that's just really, really funny.
00:41:22.000 That's awesome.
00:41:23.640 Okay.
00:41:24.100 So last question.
00:41:25.800 Your podcast is called Confessions of a Crappy Christian, but your website says one of the
00:41:30.980 things you are not about is religion.
00:41:33.080 How do you square those two things?
00:41:36.200 I mean, not in like a rude way, but I feel like the crappy Christian like squares itself
00:41:41.520 with not being very about religion.
00:41:44.060 Like the whole essence of it is like the whole, like come as you are, just don't plan to stay
00:41:50.080 that way.
00:41:50.620 It is okay that you are a crappy Christian.
00:41:54.400 It is okay that you don't like maybe do it perfectly to a T because that's the point
00:42:00.160 of grace and that's the point of sanctification and salvation.
00:42:03.800 And so I, as someone who has been habitually burned by traditional religion and religious
00:42:10.560 people, I am much more inclined to talk about a relationship and a person like the person
00:42:19.180 of Christ and that he, like Jesus is my religion.
00:42:23.880 And that's just my experience.
00:42:25.480 I also do life really closely with people who, who have an, a really beautiful, strong
00:42:32.760 relationship with religion.
00:42:33.960 So like, I'm never like, uh, religion is dumb.
00:42:37.520 Like that is not the take at all.
00:42:40.160 It's just like, I think that we were all created really differently with different experiences
00:42:45.440 and that there's something there for all of us.
00:42:47.660 Like it's just going to look a little different.
00:42:51.080 Yeah, no, I mean, that makes sense to me.
00:42:53.180 And I think that it is whenever, you know, it's funny, Christians use the term grace a lot.
00:42:58.840 We don't really use that word so much in Judaism, but I think it is so relevant and so important
00:43:04.360 is giving grace to people so that they have the room to explore their faith and get closer
00:43:11.580 to God on the terms that they can.
00:43:14.860 And that's so important.
00:43:16.760 Right.
00:43:16.940 Well, and I just, I think changed hearts is what changes behavior and, you know, it can
00:43:23.120 be really difficult.
00:43:24.120 Like if you have lived a life apart from God and a life of sin, it can be extremely difficult
00:43:30.980 to step straight into religion and not feel like you don't belong and you have nothing
00:43:38.700 to offer.
00:43:39.340 Like sometimes we just need to like tiptoe into it a little bit.
00:43:42.400 We need to take baby steps.
00:43:43.640 And so I think that's available to us as well.
00:43:46.880 Yes.
00:43:47.580 Agreed.
00:43:48.440 So the last question that I have is actually from me.
00:43:52.200 I'm my own premium subscriber.
00:43:53.740 No, I just, I wanted to ask this question and I, and I want, I'm going to ask it now
00:43:58.220 to finish off the podcast.
00:44:00.240 So you said that you love, you know, following politics and I mean, that's so much of your
00:44:07.300 content, which is awesome.
00:44:09.140 Any tips for following along?
00:44:11.140 Because I'm more of a cultural commentator, so I don't get into the weeds too much with
00:44:15.520 the day-to-day stuff, but you have some hot takes that make your Instagram page super
00:44:19.480 fun to follow.
00:44:20.160 So how can we follow along without getting bogged down by the doom scrolling or feeling
00:44:26.100 overwhelmed or just feeling like, eh, maybe this isn't so relevant to me?
00:44:30.860 Yeah.
00:44:31.320 Uh, that's another area that I just have really strong boundaries.
00:44:34.300 Um, so kind of like, I check my email three times a day.
00:44:39.020 I check the news three times a day.
00:44:41.360 Uh, it's got a time, like a time limit on it.
00:44:44.080 I typically check like CNN, Fox news, maybe I'll hit NPR, just kind of like, I don't have
00:44:50.640 alerts on my phone.
00:44:51.720 I don't get the doomed day headlines because I think I used to, and that's just really
00:44:56.000 bad for your mental health personally, especially the way things have been lately.
00:44:59.540 Like just, you keep shooting the stuff out of the sky.
00:45:02.260 I don't need to know about it.
00:45:03.840 What am I going to do about it?
00:45:05.360 Right.
00:45:05.900 And so I think it's like, if that is a priority, if that's something that you like want to
00:45:11.080 keep up with, it's setting boundaries.
00:45:13.700 Cause it is really easy to get stuck in the doom scroll spiral.
00:45:17.040 And then it just jacks and taints everything that you're doing.
00:45:21.680 But for me, it's boundaries.
00:45:23.640 It's going to multiple sources so that I'm not living in an echo chamber.
00:45:27.920 It's like, okay, Fox news is saying this, what's CNN saying about it?
00:45:30.960 And the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.
00:45:33.180 Um, and also turning it off.
00:45:36.540 Like I pretty much, there are a lot of Mondays.
00:45:39.600 I take the weekend usually off of the internet.
00:45:41.700 And there are a lot of Mondays that I come back and I'm like, oh my gosh, like what
00:45:48.320 in the, why do I even catch up?
00:45:50.480 And I just had to like get to a point where I'm okay with that.
00:45:53.460 Like it's going to hit the fan.
00:45:56.460 You know, I'm like, if, if, if somebody drops a nuclear bomb on America, like somebody will
00:46:01.360 call me and let me know if it's on the weekend, you know what I mean?
00:46:04.280 Like call and let me know.
00:46:05.440 I don't need to like be the first one to know.
00:46:07.740 And so it can be really tricky to navigate.
00:46:10.900 And I think a lot of people who have been really invested in it, especially since 2020
00:46:16.040 are kind of tapering off a little bit.
00:46:18.580 Like I'm having a lot of really interesting conversations with fellow commentators that
00:46:21.900 are like, I'm tired.
00:46:23.680 Like I need a break from this administration from like the world.
00:46:30.820 And I think that's totally fine too.
00:46:34.240 Yeah.
00:46:34.820 I think that's, that's all super helpful.
00:46:37.860 And I'm so glad you came on the podcast.
00:46:40.040 Thank you so much.
00:46:41.880 This was awesome.
00:46:42.600 So make sure.
00:46:43.360 Yeah.
00:46:43.720 It was wonderful to have you.
00:46:44.860 So let's make sure everyone knows where to follow you.
00:46:47.500 I want to make sure everyone is, you know, getting your content.
00:46:50.120 So where can we find you?
00:46:51.160 Uh, I mostly hang out on Instagram, the girl named Blake, uh, my website is the girl named
00:46:56.300 Blake.com and you can find everything from like links to the podcast, to courses and coaching
00:47:01.400 and everything in between there.
00:47:04.280 Awesome.
00:47:05.000 And the crappy Christian podcast, we can listen to you there.
00:47:07.500 Yes.
00:47:08.340 Yep.
00:47:09.520 So thank you again for coming on.
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00:47:23.140 That would really help me out.
00:47:24.240 Thank you guys so much for listening and I'll see you guys in my next episode.
00:47:28.100 Bye.
00:47:41.780 Bye.