Clavicular Teaches Looksmaxxing to Nick Fuentes & Sneako
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1 hour and 15 minutes
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Summary
On this week's episode, the brother and sister duo of the sit down with a good friend of theirs to discuss a variety of topics. They talk about a wide range of topics, including the perils of dating in the modern era, the dangers of polyamory, and much more!
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Oh, yeah, sorry, I forgot. Muslim household.
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We're not going to try to do you like those other collabs.
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Looking a little different with the facial hair.
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Yeah, that's right. Well, you saw him in Romania, right?
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I feel like there's a lot of disagreements between you and Tate, though.
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Yeah, some of the stuff about dating and the polygamy.
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But overall, you seem to agree with Tate more than the trad cons,
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like Michael Knowles and the Catholic influencers.
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You're like, you guys are simps, but Tate has the women figured out.
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The expectations that, you know, you just live like it's the 1960s
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We had to make sure he ended his YouTube stream, so...
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I wanted to stay on YouTube, but, you know, in case you want to go fully unfiltered...
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Yeah, I was going to say, weighing half of the year.
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Where's my plaque for weighing half of the year?
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The clips of you, you know, being supportive, you know, thank you.
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Like, you know, before there was no examples besides, like, you know, thugs to look up
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to for, you know, standing up for yourself.
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Well, white people were so cucked in, like, 2020 and stuff like that.
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So, you know, you just have to get out there and mug.
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I don't think Klopsa, I don't want to ask you.
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What do you think about white boys who say, can a white boy catch a vibe?
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Well, if you're white, you can do whatever you want, okay?
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Like, you know, stop living this cringe, you know, cucked mentality that's being fed.
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But I wanted to talk a little bit about, like, my world, like, sort of the black pill,
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like, dating stuff, and kind of see your opinion on that.
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Because, like, I think we all advocate for men's issues in different ways, you know?
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You know, you look at the statistics, like, men, you know, between the ages of 18 and 21,
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two-thirds of them haven't had sex in a year, right?
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That just goes to show that hypergamy has, you know, gone just completely out of control.
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So I don't know if you've kind of, like, you know, had some introspection about those type of things,
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or I don't know if you've ever talked about that.
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I think we talked about it last time over the summer.
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Unfortunately, a lot of the traditionalists, traditional Christians, they cannot deal with the issue.
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Because their solution, their model is, well, let's just cargo cult the 50s.
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It's sort of like how the automobile made a walking city impossible.
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Instagram makes it impossible for, you know, for people that just kind of have that innocent romance like that.
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Because before with hypergamy, you're only competing against the top guys, you know, in maybe your 20-mile radius.
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But now it's literally globalized to the point where your average hot girl in a small town, like, could be getting flown out by, like, Shaquille O'Neal.
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This is a Haram collab weekend for Sneeko.
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Muslim men don't have the same issue with feminism that Christian men do.
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He, there's a lot of things you could say about him, but he understood women.
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Yeah, I mean, well, Muslims just tend to stand on business a little bit more like you with
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the gambling deal, you know, not taking like millions of dollars.
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But, you know, it goes to show that, you know, your people are a little bit more dedicated
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I think in an ideal world, if people actually, you know, stayed true to what Christianity was
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meant to be, it would mock, like, Islam to death.
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But, Nick's saying, you're saying, when are you gonna take the gold deal?
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You know, people are buying gold, and the reason why I have to take it is because it's Mark Levin's
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So, it's an old Mark Levin gold sponsor, and they said, I don't like Mark Levin anymore.
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So, they're taking his deal and giving it to me.
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So, otherwise, I don't think I would have taken it, but I have to just mod Mark Levin.
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Yeah, so it'll be, I mean, well, I don't want to get ahead of myself, you know, or negotiating
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It'll be the first sponsorship, because I only do super chats and merch and subs.
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I was going to say, man, it's really difficult for you.
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Well, I mean, it's crazy, because you're getting, like, literally no sponsors banned
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on everything, and I pretty much said everything that you have, but I still get rent deals.
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So, Gandy Heaven is like a meme where incels in their next life go to Gandy Heaven and become
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You get a notification, like, this beautiful man lights up on the wallpaper.
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Because in the old days, I got into it in 2017 when the woke censorship was like...
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If you said, oh, you know, that guy over there.
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And it only kept escalating from like 2017 to 2021.
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Like, I wouldn't be able to do these streams if you didn't kind of like be the meat shield
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You know, now I get to slide under the radar because I'm not like as fat as you.
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You know, I'm laying down my life, taking all the...
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Not new, but you've had enough of the other people who stepped into the space now saying,
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You started talking about how important the gym is.
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And it seems like you're going to add self-improvement there.
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Is that a new direction that you want to take your movement?
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I'm starting to push that because, you know, one, like there's a lot of conflict now.
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After Charlie Kirk got shot, it's like these people are trying to kill us.
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And so we just need to prepare for the, for the war, for the fight.
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But two, you know, more to kind of your, in your area, we just need to, we need to mock.
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No fatties, no chubbies, no, no disgusting human beings.
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I mean, I think the gym, like, okay, to win the war, like that's, that's omega cringe.
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Who's that guy in Australia that got like a jump by three guys with knives in the bathroom
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So it's like, you can't, you can't let that happen to you.
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Cause what if, uh, you know, what if it's like a John Wick thing and like knock the gun
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No, we gotta be, you gotta be an individualist, right?
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You gotta, you know, go to the gym for only the mogging aspect.
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And if there were to be some like social conflict or like, uh, some sort of race war, just stay
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You should only be thinking in the context of your, of your self interest.
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Well, but our self interest is to band together.
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But like, so like the, I'm not saying you're obviously like a white nationalist or whatever,
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but like people who are, are like, are like trying to make it so just because you're white,
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like you have to be like in some sort of brotherhood with like all white people.
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But you look at the average white guy, uh, and it's like, dude, I, I, I want nothing
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You know, I look at the, uh, the unwashed masses.
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It frustrates me too, but I mean, look, that's the way of the world.
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It's like, cause look, honestly, like speaking, like he's Muslim and like, so when you go to
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They're doing their call to prayer in Times Square.
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And if you're just like, let's say you're out there, you know, you're doing the pretty
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You got your girl on your arm or a few girls on your arm.
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What if you get pressed by like 10 Muslims and they're like, boy, this is our, this is
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When you went to New York, when you went to New York, Nick, and you wanted a safe coffee
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It was a Muslim coffee shop, but you didn't go to a white coffee shop.
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You didn't go to the white Catholic coffee shop.
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And so though, cause you knew the Muslims were going to be.
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But that's because of, you know, we're sort of in like a multipolar struggle.
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You've got Jews on one side, Muslims on another, whites triangulate the position.
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So I'm just saying like, we can't be mobbed by the other groups.
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But who's, who's we, we as white people, as white men.
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But why can't you just like leverage like other groups to, to, you know, get your own
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So, um, you could recognize, you know, what's going on with society.
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Sort of like I have and, you know, use it to your advantage.
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How can I, you know, work myself into the next?
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Well, I mean, and that's fine for now, but I just, the way things are going, it seems
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All these divisions in society seem to be getting worse, ideological, racial, religious
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And, you know, let's say we get in some scenario where the lights go out, you know, the power
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grid goes down, there's a war, food isn't at the grocery store.
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It's going to turn into like prison very quickly.
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People are going to start to form up gangs and things like that.
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And I, I didn't think we'd be having like this collapsitarian debate, but like I, I really
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do look at the world and think like our young men need to kind of get tough.
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I think people are picking up on like the accelerationist movement that I kind of pushing
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Like shit is going to collapse very soon, whether it be from a racial conflict or dating, but
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I predict, I think the dating market is what's going to do it in.
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You know, it's going to be youth unemployment and it's going to be the lack of sex that
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the young men are deprived of sex because of hypergamy.
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And it's just like a toxic blend, uh, taking those two things together.
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And now that's going to create, I think a huge social upheaval in the next 10 years.
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Um, because we can't, you know, in politics, in a conflict, in any scenario, it's not going
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It's not going to be better if you're out of shape, you know, if you can't do cardio
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I hate going to the gym, but yeah, I mean, I still got to get better.
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You're saying that it's cope, but when you go to the gym and you are strong, you interact
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with people differently, you communicate differently, your presence and all that.
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It's not even just because you could get in a fight and do a fisticuffs.
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A gun is probably better in that situation, but you are going to have a stronger presence.
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What's better ROI, me going to the gym or me streaming, which is going to make me more
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famous so that I can dominate in the metric of status and wealth, right?
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It's like for SMB, uh, it's way higher ROI for me to stream as opposed to going to the
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Well, you could stream going to the gym and then your streams will improve because you have
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more energy and because you would look better from the gym.
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Well, then don't stream, but then the time you are on stream will be improved after you
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You're going to be, you're going to look better.
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Cause he's saying like, I'm saying you should invest in Bitcoin and real estate.
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He's like, I should stream and invest in employees.
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I think it's best to diversify max in every scenario.
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There's just not enough like money to, to really have significant return.
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Like if you were to invest in Bitcoin, like say you put a hundred K into Bitcoin, like
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and it goes to one 20 and you know, a few years, it's like that return is just not.
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I could get a better return by hiring staff that are going to, you know, help accelerate
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But I have to be because the government took my money.
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So once that happens to you, you can't just let your money sit in a bank account because
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If you have money in a checking account, they could come in, delete the numbers.
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And you know, people say that about Bitcoin, but if you know how it works, it isn't.
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The watch is actually a good investment jewelry.
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That's a winner because if you're on the run, see that I have to think like this because
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But if you're on the run, that's a way that you can carry $50,000 across the border
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and you put in your pocket, you know, you don't need a USB drive.
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You have to pull it out of the bank account tips off the feds.
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But then you need like a computer and you need a connection.
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And you know, the other thing about it is they're making it impossible to on-ramp and off-ramp
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But with something like, and the other thing about a watch is like you could barter for
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So if you cross the border to Mexico, you say, hey, I got this Rolex.
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Give me your car and your phone or you know, whatever.
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But like in a survival situation, it's currency.
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And it's in terms of density, you know, you're carrying around so much more money than if
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But it does make you also a bit of a liability if people know you're walking around with all
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Cause I've spent, me and Cloud have spent a lot of time recently.
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I think we both like his appearance on Michael Knowles.
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Saying there's no point in having allegiance to the GOP.
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His grandma even called him up and said, stop making fun of JD Vance.
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My, they know that I literally sent his fucking campaign down the shitter.
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Now he's just known as like this loser fat guy.
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Like all of the, um, the shills, like the paid GOP accounts.
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And a lot of like anti looks maxing stuff because of that.
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Um, and they're just trying to, you know, do the ad hominem thing with like, oh, he's
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He's like this clavicular, this 19 year old bone smashing meth addict.
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When we did a stream in July, he's like, how old are you?
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I mean, guys, I mean, I'm, I'm really just trying to diminish, um, any political movement,
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any like populist, um, like movement whatsoever, just by having like men try to like self improve
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and just throw all that shit in the trash can because you, that they aren't, they are
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Because people are spending hours a day on X, um, you know, debating nonsense, debating
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Um, and it's just such a waste of time relative to like something going to the gym, for example,
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doing a basic looks max routine, um, you know, researching the pharmacology behind like peptides.
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Like there's a million things I could, I could name that are a better use of, of time to accelerate
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yourself as a male than, um, anything to do with politics.
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I think that that is an assumption that rests on the order that we live in.
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You know, it sort of assumes that we have, that we have the United States of America,
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that we have a sound currency, that we have civil order in the country.
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I think that, you know, it's easy for now, and it's been like just for a long time for
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people to say, oh, go and touch grass, you know, go and live your real life, go and be
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a winner, go and, and in the old days, people say, go to school, get a good job.
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Now they say, bone smash, get on GLPs, you know, but like, but people used to say, oh,
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But what we're starting to see is that back in the day, and even now, you could sort of
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But as time goes on, it's getting harder and harder to ignore in terms of the overall decline
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in quality of life, the rapid diversification of the country.
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You know, the inflation, let's talk about, planes falling out of the sky, corruption, people
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Like, as the country gets worse, it's going to get harder, I think, to kind of hover above
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So I think that, I mean, in my opinion, the best thing we could do is band together.
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And during this convulsion we talked about, this cataclysm, social convulsion, we have to
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be ready to take advantage of it and power max, not status max, but power max, meaning like
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I feel like I've sort of transcended all those issues there.
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So, the average person, like with the H-1B visa situation, who are like competing for
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computer science jobs, it's like, yeah, you're fucked, but like, I've literally transcended
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So, why should I give a fuck about any of these issues?
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And you think, oh, well, it's hurting white people.
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And it might sound like a selfish position to take, but it, you know, it's black building.
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So, I'm not going to have to, you know, go and join a populist movement where I could
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be doing a million things that are going to elevate myself.
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And I think if everyone had that mentality, the winners would transcend and, you know,
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the losers would get fucked, but that's just kind of an actual selection.
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The low IQ people are just going to go to shit.
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Yeah, but the low IQ people go to shit and they could always exercise this option where
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if there's a lot of losers and if they keep losing for a really long time, they could flip
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And that's why, for example, you know, I'm like a reactionary, but I'm deeply concerned
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about economic and social inequality, not because I think there's anything inherently evil
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about, you know, a social hierarchy or a natural hierarchy emerging.
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Smart, strong, beautiful people are going to have the most resources or influence, something
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There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but if there's too many losers and if they
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lose for too long, then they're going to just sabotage everything.
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And we live in the era where Luigi Mangione, he got fucked up.
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And there's like a rich guy with a family and everything.
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Like what happens when that guy, the clown is getting kicked in the back of the alley,
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I predicted that would happen as well in the same timeframe as you, 10 years until that
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But the, you know, disagreement is I think that collapse is sort of necessary to sort of
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try to rebuild because I think things have gone too far.
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You know, it's just like looking at some of the numbers, like, you know, how the bottom
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80% of women are going for the top 20% of men, shit like that.
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So I just think it's necessary that everything goes to shit and the board gets swept like you
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I agree with you and I, and don't get me wrong.
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And I agree that people should, I always say on my show, take your own side.
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You know, you're a person, you have certain characteristics.
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You should be looking out for your best interest, whether that's political, economic, social,
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whatever, because nobody's looking out for you.
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You know, these other groups are not looking out for you, whether it's a generational thing
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like boomers are not looking out for zoomers.
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They're not looking out for natives, you know, like these Somalians, they come here
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I know maybe we disagree on this, but then they scam, then they scam.
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And it's like, so you have white people that are saying, well, bring them in, these poor
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And they come in and they take with both hands because they're looking out for themselves.
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And I think on an individual level, people should try to rise as much as possible.
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You know, it can be only one person that's the richest or the best looking, but you could
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But I do believe that life is like a team game.
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As what you find is that that rugged individualism, especially in a political context, leaves
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I mean, he's got a harem of wives, ton of kids.
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He flew too close to the sun, let's say, and he became a political target.
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And then the men with guns came and they threw him in a cage.
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And, you know, I think one of the reasons he's very pro-Trump is Trump is keeping him
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And by that, I mean we need to be winners and take care of each other.
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But there has to be some team aspect because it's a team game.
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Don't you think that people should, before they get started with any political movement,
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try to elevate themselves to a point where it's like you could actually have influence,
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You know, I've been doing politics and I became a huge, you know, social figure and I'm a political
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But I made sure to, you know, maximize my income, looks max, do all that.
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Would you say that's like something that, you know, should be advocated for?
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Like, all right, at least make six figures before you involve yourself in this shit.
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Because if you're just a random like brokey, as Tate would say, you have no influence.
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You know, so you should try to, you know, have a job that matters.
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Like, yeah, I know you kind of advocate for that.
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Like, become doctors, become lawyers, and then sort of join the movement.
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Yeah, I totally agree with that because, you know, what I learned the hard way doing what I did,
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I dropped out of college and then I became a live streamer.
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And it's been a really tough journey for me for the past 10 years because I, I have all these controversial opinions
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and it, you know, limits my opportunities or did for a time.
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What I learned the hard way is that to go to college, get a degree, unlocks the institutions.
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Like, if you want to make real, real money, I mean, you could either become like famous,
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become like a celebrity, a celebrity like that, or an entrepreneur.
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I wouldn't really advocate for people to plan on that.
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It's like, if you do it that way, and I think that's a unicorn.
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Most people, if you want to make real money or have real influence, you got to be in the institutions.
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Like, if you want to be the best actor, you got to be in the industry.
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And the way to be in the industry is, you got to play the game.
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You know, playing the game means you can't be too controversial.
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You stick your head up and start saying, hey, I'm a moral entrepreneur.
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Well, you and your controversial opinions are not going to get like a loan for a business
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or, you know, a spot in an elite college or a job at a top law firm.
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So that's why I tell my people now, infiltrate.
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You know, brain max, looks max, like get your IQ up, get your looks up, get into a good college,
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get a great job, become as powerful and rich or whatever is possible.
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Then you join the movement when you have something to offer.
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So, you know, I think we're sort of in agreement about that.
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You just have to advocate more, I think, for and look, maybe do a little bit of self research on some of the technology, like, you know, the pharmaceuticals and stuff.
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Because I know it's like, oh, it's Jewish.
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No, but like, we seriously, in 2025, for people to ignore like all these like pharmaceutical, you know, advancements like this patch I'm wearing that, you know, Sam Bankman-Fried also wore like MSAM, Selegiline.
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Like this stuff is all technology that if you're not leveraging, other people are and they're going to dominate, right?
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So that's why I'm just like, okay, do the research, do this the right way.
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And you can, you know, IQ max with, you know, something like a dihexa, you know, which causes synaptogenesis in your brain.
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Like, you know, there's no reason not to use stuff like this.
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The same reason that you don't think most people should get involved in politics because they're not ready.
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Most people are not ready to go down the pharmaceutical route because most people are going to abuse stimulants and are going to overdose.
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Well, that's something that stimulants is a different class.
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I wouldn't, you know, universally advocate for that.
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That's more of just like a case dependent thing.
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But something like a Reddit Shoe Tide, you know, when these foods are designed nowadays to make you want to overeat, right?
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You know, all of the different shit like Oreos and stuff like that, you know, they know what they're doing.
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You know, so when that kind of shit exists and the entire grocery store is filled with goyslop, it's like, you know, don't just complain about it and post on Twitter and do like this LARP of eating carnivore.
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You can eat two Oreos and you'll be cut, you'll put it away, you know?
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So there's literally nothing that could go wrong from taking Red or True Tide.
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So I think we really need to look into like some of these technological advancements and, you know, start implementing them.
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It's like, you know, you're growing for a movement, you know?
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Maybe this is, certainly I don't have a background in like pharmacology, science.
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But I have, and maybe this is just like a temperamental thing.
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I feel like there's basically no such thing as a free lunch.
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And not like out of a sense of fairness, but I think that anything that feels like a shortcut or a life hack or feels too good to be true usually is.
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And I know that probably the side effects can be mitigated and you can probably ameliorate that and everything.
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But I just can't shake the gut feeling of like, oh, I'm injecting myself with something that makes me not fat, changes my brain chemistry so I don't have an appetite.
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It's like, are you kind of, one, could there be some kind of unintended consequences that we don't know about or not factoring in?
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Isn't there something to be said about building character, discipline, self-restraint?
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Doing things in the most easy, you know, simple way possible should always, you know, be advocated for.
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People are only going to look at you and see that you're skinny or fat.
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They're not going to realize how you got there, right?
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No one's going to fucking know about it, you know?
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They're only going to look at the final product.
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Well, but you seem to be arguing that the effect is the only thing that mattered.
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And I agree with you in some sense that, you know, skinny is skinny.
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You know, if you take steroids, you get the desired effect.
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So you're worried about the long-term consequences?
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Long-term consequences, not just for health, but also even just for you as a person.
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If you don't develop character, can't restrain yourself, can't help yourself, reliant on drugs,
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reliant on pharmaceuticals, I feel like you are cheating yourself out of something important
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because character and virtue is real and it's only built through time, struggle, sacrifice.
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And the shortcuts, I think they always come back to bite you in the end one way or another.
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That's, like I said, that's just like maybe old school.
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That's, yeah, I mean, but there's also like other stories, right?
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So like when I got kicked out of college for, you know, roiding, taking testosterone, I had
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the option, you know, to potentially get, you know, reinstated if I proved I wasn't taking
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I'm going to continue with my Lux Maxing, my steroids.
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So that's like, I feel like more character than anything.
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I was like, I'm fully willing to, you know, sacrifice my degree, you know, for Lux Maxing.
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Well, and you know, there's something to be said too, because even though I don't like,
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I don't encourage everybody to do the drug usage.
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I do think there is something to be said for like a competitive athlete who does take steroids
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or a Lux Max or like an actor, because there's something to be said about like doing everything
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possible to be the best you can be everything technologically, but also everything that you
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And you sort of give yourself to excellence, to the pursuit of excellence, to the pursuit
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of, and so that's why I admire what you're doing, even though I don't agree with the drug
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That's what I said to Sneeko last night when we were putting socks in the heels somewhere.
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And the staging thing or the vantage point thing.
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Why would you not leverage any and every tool that you can to maximize your looks?
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You can maximize your height, which is a very important metric, right?
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There's studies about that with like workplace income.
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So I'm like, oh, you don't want to pursue greatness?
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I don't know if you saw that speech that I gave him, but it was like motivational, I feel
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You don't have to go that far, but like putting a lifted shoe, it's like, that is so easy.
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I feel like you can pull it off, but I feel like for most guys, the anxiety is if anyone
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finds out you're wearing lifts, everyone's laughing.
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You're only going to get caught if you're a retard though.
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I almost, that's almost like the fun of it to me.
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Like, I think it's like a game almost, you know, that's just the way I think about it.
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But I could see how other people would get like super autistic.
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It's like, okay, I'm going to sag my pants and do like the tiptoe and see if I could not
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Like, I think it's, I think it's, it's still funny to a degree.
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Like, I'm not like that autistic where I'm like, oh, this is fully normal.
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Like when I'm bone smashing and shit, I'm like, okay, this is like, I get, I get why
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Normie said this is silly, but it's, it still has its, its science behind it.
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We just spoke with him and we had a similar conversation afterwards with Claude was saying
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that it's pretty pointless to care about a politician because he can't change your life,
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He can't change it completely, but there's some aspects.
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Do you think that he has a possibility to be a good governor of Florida?
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Um, well, I think he would be a good governor if he got elected, but it'll be tough.
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You know, he's going to have a tough time raising money, tough time with endorsements.
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And, um, you know, he's got a very right wing platform, so I wish him the best.
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I think he's got an uphill battle, but I like him.
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I don't think I disagree with anything he said.
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Um, so I like him and, and you know, I'm a big believer in politics because those connections,
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That's why politics is not always gesture because, and I, not to retread, not to go back
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into it, but like, but here's the thing, like, it reminds me of something.
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I think like about a year ago, we're talking about like Gaza and Iran and the Middle East
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And these idiots like Matt Walsh used to say, well, I don't care about Israel.
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I don't care about Palestine and it's like, okay, well you may not care about them, but
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And I feel like the same is true of politics in general.
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You may not care about politics, but politics cares about you.
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And it is true that the, the more anything you become influential, famous, rich, the more
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The more of a big fish you become in the pond, the more people are going to start to try
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And that's where politics, it's not a, it's not a coincidence that all these rich people
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employ lobbyists and they all give money to political campaigns.
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So that's why I say, you know, that's not always gesture.
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It's not gesture to come with a, with an entourage.
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Like some of the things that he was saying would just be immediately like struck down
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So it's like when I'm hearing all these ideas, I'm like, okay, yeah, this is good, but this
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I'm just like, dude, like it's such a black bill.
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Like for just all these ideas to just get crushed into the ground.
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So that's, that's kind of how I think about it.
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Well, you know, that that's thinking about a, like an idealist.
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You know, people always say, what's the end game?
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What do you think Piers Morgan is going to talk to me about?
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I think that was just a way for him to throw me off balance and it worked.
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Well, it'll be like a, it'll be a re, a redux of the Michael Knowles thing.
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They want to send like a van, um, to do it that way.
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Because I think I, I could, you know, be a little bit relatable to him at the start
00:42:38.000
That way he's not as aggressive, but that doesn't really carry over as well on like
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You know, but yeah, he was, he was getting really upset with, with you.
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He, um, well, you know what it is about peers and this is sort of how I cracked the
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code is his superpowers to try to control the frame, make you feel silly, make you feel
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And all you got to do is realize this is a tabloid journalist.
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You know, you're going to sit there and say, how dare you?
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I mean, literally like a tabloid, uh, British journalist.
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It's like the lowest level journalist there is.
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So you, you know, you got to just control that frame.
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I mean, ignoring all, uh, journalists and all public, uh, you know, media trying to
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Cause I don't want a million hit pieces out there.
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I'm already getting them on fucking the telegraph and shit like that.
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So I'm not going to give a statement, you know, that's going to be taken out of context
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Um, because they're going to clown you anyway.
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I mean, in the, in the media market, people clown you no matter what, um, for everything
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and anything, but at least if you participate in it, you get to say something too.
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You get to have your quote in the paper and free media, free earned media.
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I had a picture of me in the AK looking like a terrorist.
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I think I'm going to actually try to work on, on getting that, that shut down.
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Um, but the only thing that I was told is they have a lot of influence to get people banned
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So you think them writing an article would influence like something like Instagram to
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Let me, let me tell you your biggest problem right now as someone who's, you know, listen
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They are going to concern troll and they're going to say there's this dangerous new trend.
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And they're going to say like, we're deeply concerned that young kids are bone smashing
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Someone has to do something and that is going to be the pretext to censor.
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That's going to be the pretext to at the minimum, they're going to cut your reach shadow ban,
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you know, that, that kind of algorithmic manipulation.
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I don't know that that will happen for a fact, but I know that will be their angle.
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They'll concern troll and they'll say, and they're coming after you.
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Cause it's like, you know, you think you're a 20 year old guy.
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And it was funny, but they can't allow that because you got too big.
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You're like, you know, obviously one of the hottest new streamers and biggest people blowing
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And most importantly have the attention of the youth.
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They need Vance to get 20% of the white Gen Z.
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If the top number one streamer is saying, Oh, Vance is a subhuman.
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I, not to sound egotistical, but I think I might've like ruined his campaign.
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And, um, but now you kind of shook the hornet's nest.
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Cause that, and that's why the New York post coming after you.
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And they're going to say, how do we get rid of this guy?
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Oh, I know 20 year old kid telling the youth to bone smash and take drugs.
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I wish I never got involved with this political shit.
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I mean, it was really good for my reach, but if that kind of shit is going to happen,
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And it's hard not to, um, you know, have like bad moments that, you know, influencing the youth.
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It's like, and I'm, I'm just fully open about the things I do.
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Oh, if you're a kid, you should do, I've, I've said explicitly do not take stimulants ever.
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Cause I'm a live streamer, but I always advocate against it, you know?
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I mean, there, there's ways around it, but I'm saying that is what the attack will look like.
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Cause the way around it, you, you got kick on lock.
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I think the censorship is the worst of it is over.
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Even if you get knocked off one or another platform, I think, didn't you get kicked off YouTube?
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You know, the new AI, um, censorship on YouTube has been fucking people.
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You credit a lot of the generational run to the fact that they just uncensored you on clips.
00:48:59.000
Is that a long lasting or is Peter Thiel going to crack down with social credit?
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And I hate to say that, but it's the explosion of, you know, the Israel critical stuff has everybody
00:49:16.000
talking about hate speech laws, censorship, Larry Ellison bought TikTok.
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They're, they're starting to kind of unring that bell on all these major platforms.
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I mean, I'm just like sitting here thinking like, fuck, these people are going to try to ban.
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Like, it's not good because that's your livelihood, right?
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And people could just decide, nope, you're done.
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Get some watches, get some real estate and Bitcoin, man.
00:50:01.000
Because, you know, look, the secret to having a lot of money, making a lot of money.
00:50:07.000
But the way to maintain wealth over time is you have to beat inflation.
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The only way to do that is not have all your eggs in one basket.
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I just started making money that actually matters.
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Maybe we could finance, like, a mosque in downtown.
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I'm surprised, though, that you're supportive, because I feel like I disagree with you on
00:50:46.000
You know, and you're still saying like, oh, Clav is like weighing half.
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Clav is like, you know, good, hot, the new streamer, you know.
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It's because even the, I don't think we really disagree on that much, by the way.
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I don't know if that hurts you for me to say that, but whatever.
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No, no, dude, I literally don't give a fuck.
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We're all about like any of these racial issues.
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But no, but the reason why I support it, and I said it on the show is we, and I got,
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It's like when I said weighing half, that's like a very old clip.
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But the reason why I like that, and it made me laugh, I thought it was funny, is because
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it's like, uh, everyone is set, everyone in our generation says, well, I'm like a white
00:52:16.660
And it's sort of like craving approval from these other groups.
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And it comes with it like, that's like a diminutive thing to say.
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It's like, hey, Tyrone, am I the white boy of the year?
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And it's sort of saying like, I'm a silly bitch.
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But if you are a wang half and say, look, fucker, I'm a white ass nigga going hard as
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We need more young white men to say, it's cool to be white.
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You know, people ask all the time, why am I friends with Claude?
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And it's like, I'm so tired of white people existing for the approval of minorities and accepting
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I want to see people just exist within themselves without looking for external validation.
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That's why I'm so glad that I'm neurodivergent.
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I never tried to fit in like in high school with these social groups and like look for
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So my worldview is like just completely different.
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It's one of my greatest advantages, I think.
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You know, I don't give a fuck about anyone's approval.
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I'm just going to be, you know, unapologetically authentic and kind of works, you know.
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I mean, the neuro, the like being non-neurotypical or whatever, being autistic, it's such a superpower
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because that's how everybody else becomes so mediocre.
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Because they're so worried about what's everybody else doing?
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Oh, well, are people going to be okay with this?
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And I know because I was a little bit the same way in high school.
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I was a political nerd and I was doing my own thing.
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And it just never factored to me like, oh, what are people going to think of this?
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You're just in your own lane playing your own game.
00:54:21.740
Well, fellas, I think we should probably start heading over to Tate's.
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I thought we, you know, talked about some interesting topics.
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Because I was running through the city to get here.
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It was like John Wick 3 because there's people trying to kill me.
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There's so much more I wanted to ask you, but we probably don't have time.
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But about Iran and Venezuela, the point of contention.
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I think some of that was, you know, some of that documentary was a little weird.
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And also, Tyler Oliveira did a counter-documentary in a way.
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About the Hasidic community and how much government assistance they take.
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And look, J.D. Vance and Elon Musk, are they all going to highlight and prop them up?
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Is Chris Pavlovsky going to give Tyler Oliveira a deal for the same documentary?
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No, I'm saying that's what I wore on Piers Morgan.
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You had a beard when you did your first collab with them.
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I probably looked like I was fucking 25 when we collabs.
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Yeah, well, it was amazing because we did that stream and all my people were like,
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why the fuck is Nick collabing with this guy talking about GLP-1s?
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And that was, I think, like one month before the ascension and then boom, like, you were in.
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Is it all on the dust that I've seen when you're switching?
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Like, if I go into the club, it's going to be like Spring Breakers.
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If you saw our section last night and the way that me and Seiko do it, like, it's impossible
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If we're all there together and we have a lit section, people are going to be like, okay,
00:59:22.320
Dude, you can, like, transcend, like, the looks pill and all that stuff, but it takes
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That's why I don't like people advocating for, oh, just get rich, bro.
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Because it's like, even if you make a million dollars a year, that's not enough to, like,
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We're saying we need 10 more Joes for him to go.
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Well, we're going inside a house with Tate has security as well.
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I think you, we would only have to do it for, like, an hour.
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It's more about, like, for everyone else in the club is, like, looking at you, like, holy shit, these guys.
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Nate, you're saying I farmed you, but at the same time, look at all the, the gourd beds coming up to you.
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I mean, come on, bringing cheese to a Thanksgiving dinner.
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Do we need to add baby belt cheeses to a billion dollars?
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Greg, I would be so happy as a host to receive that.
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And the main thing I was talking about with Sneko earlier is, like, we got to stop these,
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If you understood everything, you wouldn't think it was that petty.
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I know, but it's like, it just feels so feminine.
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He's the new guy in the manosphere, so he doesn't understand that.
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It's got to be the same as, like, the white people thing.
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It's like, it has to be a unified front, you know?
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I think, I mean, like, who do you think it's not a petty issue with?
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I think that a lot of it goes deeper than being petty.
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But I've never said anything just, like, that I can't remember that was, like, too disrespectful
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I think people who have been genuinely disrespectful, I feel like I would be able to, you know, get
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So I don't know, like, what other beef there is, but I think I could kind of...
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I really want to, dude, because it's like, I do a collab with, like, you and then, like,
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Tates, and I have to be like, okay, are we going to be friends?
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It's like, what are we, a bunch of, like, high school girls?
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So even if the person disrespected you to a high degree, just be the bigger man.
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No, you were to, you know, Zerka and everything, but that's a whole other deal.
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And even he said it himself, but, like, not to get into any beefs or whatever, but I'm
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I'm going to get a photo of you guys real quick.
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Well, because I said it's a white Christmas, and you're like, what is that?
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Yeah, I gave him two bags over in the corner of that.
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Is there a time to go to the garage and get the thing from my car?
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We should just chill here for, like, 10 minutes, right?
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We could just go downstairs and just feel like.
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I think from, like, a flipping perspective, we want to have, like, as many different backgrounds.
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Wait, am I wearing the shoes the wrong way?
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He does this crazy shit where he sits on it and, like, baits, like.
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Which apartment do you like better, Miami or New York?
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You're, like, walking through and, like, you know, even if someone doesn't know who you
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I'm afraid of heights, so that's really cool.
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We're doing, we're going to see Tate next, so it's going to be a crazy one.
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Are you guys just going to the Eddie's house, or?
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You got a suit, Max, Brad, if you can fit in one.
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He's putting in every day, fucking 12-hour streams.
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So it's so easy to take advantage of these lazy fuckheads.
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Or I should say the super chats during the show.
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So it's just like a mental vacation from having to read,
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like, subhuman comments for two hours every night.
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Did you go to a hotel, get a bath, and do what you do?
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Hot tub every day, chill at the hotel, door dash, watching TV.
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It seems like what you do when you're not on vacation, too, right?
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Yeah, so let me ask you a really important question.
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And I kind of, like, I do the exact same thing with the Super Chats,
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and people say, oh, don't be mean to your fans,
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but if they're fucking retarded, man, you've got to call it out.
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Well, and you can't play the game where you're trying to be nice to them,
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because if they think that you have to be nice to them,
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thank you so much for the $10, I appreciate it.
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I tell them, like, if they send some weird shit,
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They're saying that Vendome again is pretty good.
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I came on very briefly after their Nanyahu interview.
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but I've never met him or anything in those guys.
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these gym influencers should be talking about politics.
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I don't have this platform to talk to you guys about politics
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When you're kind of one of the first newer guys to do that,
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Either you're super woke or anti-woke or whatever,
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and you were kind of the first one that came around recently
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seven or eight or eight or something like that.
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That was based because all your fans back in the day were not Chud, they were Chad.
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Like that line that was doing the Charlie Kirk thing, like it was actually, um, you know,
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people who had like decent, you know, looks, pretty optical.
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So I was like, wow, this is actually a pretty good movement.
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Well, it's, the problem is it's like much bigger overall.
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But like, I tell you, I was walking down the street to get here and like a table of all
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Are you going to get set up with Alex Jones' daughter?
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You guys are going to be putting me on the spot.
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we're here to make you look as good as possible.