Dale Partridge - Are Most Christian's Pessimistic？ - Dale Partridge

00:00:00.000 In this episode of Real Christianity, I start a two-part series on eschatology.

00:00:04.420 Episode number one is called The Paralysis of Pessimistic Eschatology.

00:00:08.720 It's going to be a good episode. All that coming up right now.

00:00:11.180 welcome to this episode of real christianity my name is dale partridge today we're going to be

00:00:32.900 talking about eschatology and if you haven't listened to the episode i did about 11 months

00:00:37.260 ago with Joel Webin on postmillennialism. I think it would be helpful for you to go back and check

00:00:42.600 that one out. We talk about all of the views in the eschatology world. So we talk about

00:00:47.760 dispensationalism, premillennialism, amillennialism, postmillennialism, what they all mean. Today,

00:00:52.220 we're going to be just doing a series on pessimistic eschatology versus optimistic

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00:02:01.680 Okay, we're going to dive in to the paralysis of pessimistic eschatology.

00:02:11.380 Now, I need to make a clarifying point.

00:02:13.780 I'm going to be using the term pessimistic eschatology in an academic term.

00:02:19.680 That's really what it's called.

00:02:21.360 It's not that I'm calling someone as like a pessimist.

00:02:24.660 you know, pessimistic eschatology really is someone that believes in a progressive moral

00:02:30.660 decline. That's their view of eschatology. The world essentially is going to get worse morally

00:02:36.160 over time. And it's not like I'm trying to make a descriptor of people that are just like sinfully

00:02:43.040 pessimistic. That's not what I'm talking about here. So just clarifying point there. I'm also

00:02:48.400 going to be using the term dominion. And I'm referring to the dominion mandate that we can

00:02:53.680 see in Genesis 128 says, be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion

00:02:58.800 over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and the heavens of the earth and every living

00:03:02.640 thing that moves on the earth. And so this is essentially what we're going to see is a discussion

00:03:10.520 around dominion. You know, I've mentioned this before in the podcast that Christ through his

00:03:16.960 body, the church, the people of God, is doing what Adam failed to do in the dominion mandate.

00:03:24.380 And so Adam was to do that with his descendants, with his progeny, with his heritage. And he is

00:03:32.620 reproducing death in the world. And we know that. And now Christ is producing life in the world.

00:03:38.820 And I do believe that Christ will outproduce Adam's production of death, meaning that when

00:03:44.980 people are born in Adam, I believe that there will be more people reborn in Christ. And so we'll

00:03:50.320 talk into those things as we push forward. Now, my aim is to demonstrate, based on the promises

00:03:58.440 of scripture, how optimistic eschatology empowers the church toward the victory, you know, well,

00:04:07.460 I should say victory through the gospel or through the proclamation of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

00:04:11.260 Now, as many of you know, dispensationalism and historic premillennialism are two popular eschatological positions that we see in the church.

00:04:21.840 They believe in the imminent return of Christ to the Great Tribulation, a literal thousand-year reign of Christ here dwelling on the earth.

00:04:31.700 You may also know that these positions generally view the world as progressively getting worse, that we're going to see a continued moral decline.

00:04:41.260 And the culture essentially is viewed as irreversibly decaying in the face of a powerless gospel or a church that essentially can't turn the tide.

00:04:53.840 And that's, I would say, a pretty common perception in the church today.

00:04:59.180 And so as a result, those people who hold these positions, they develop without realizing it, a defeatist attitude.

00:05:06.580 and it often leads to the belief that it's essentially a fool's errand to try to redeem

00:05:13.220 your city or your town or your state or whatever, even like a school or the media or whatever it

00:05:21.020 may be. And so I believe this kind of pessimism has several implications that are harmful that

00:05:27.960 we shouldn't ignore. And so I want to just begin with an illustration from the scriptures. So

00:05:32.420 Numbers 13 through 14, we see the story of the 12 spies that were sent out to scout the land,

00:05:39.940 the promised land that was promised again to Abraham.

00:05:43.820 And Joshua and Caleb were two of these spies.

00:05:47.020 And they were confident in God's promise that they were going to essentially have the means to take the land.

00:05:54.200 Upon the return, these 10 spies, they were afraid because they only saw giants in the land.

00:06:00.720 They reported back that the land was essentially too difficult to conquer.

00:06:04.200 The people were too strong to overcome.

00:06:06.580 They spread the pessimism and the fear to the rest of the Israelites.

00:06:11.120 And it's caused them to essentially lose heart and to give up for a time.

00:06:16.060 Joshua and Caleb, it says, you know, trusted in the Lord.

00:06:18.860 And they said, quote, the land which we pass through to spy out is an exceedingly good land.

00:06:24.640 If the Lord delights in us, he will bring us into the land and give it to us,

00:06:28.620 a land that flows with milk and honey.

00:06:30.200 Only do not rebel against the Lord and do not fear the people of the land, for they are bread for us.

00:06:36.760 Their protection is removed from them and the Lord is with us. Do not fear them."

00:06:41.740 And so the Israelites did not listen. They refused to enter the land. 0.80

00:06:47.600 As a result, they wandered in the wilderness for 40 years.

00:06:50.020 We know that story until that doubting generation passed away.

00:06:55.220 And so Joshua and Caleb, however, remained faithful and they continued to trust in God.

00:07:00.780 And when the time finally came to conquer that land, Joshua, along with Caleb, led, you know, the whole generations passed away.

00:07:09.720 And Joshua and Caleb get this opportunity to lead the Israelites to victory, taking possession of the land that God essentially has promised their forefathers and all the way back to Abraham.

00:07:19.960 And so the point that I'm making here is that pessimism really does have a paralyzing and costly effect.

00:07:26.120 There's really a consequence with a pessimistic view of God's power through the church by the means of the gospel in the world.

00:07:36.920 And so a belief of inevitable defeat that essentially we're going to lose as a church or we're going to lose the world.

00:07:46.840 I know we all agree that every view agrees that Christ wins in the end.

00:07:52.840 But we're talking about how does the church operate in history

00:07:56.480 prior to the return of Christ and the eternalizing of the kingdom.

00:08:00.500 But in time, between the resurrection of Christ

00:08:04.560 and between the second coming of Christ or the final coming of Christ,

00:08:08.500 what do we view there is what we're talking about.

00:08:12.280 And so when you have this inevitable perspective of defeat, it's going to prevent a person from taking any significant action towards winning.

00:08:22.940 And that's what we're facing, those kind of circumstances in the church's fight against the world right now.

00:08:27.900 When the church believes that she's going to be overcome by the world, she's not going to act toward any sort of spiritual conquest, physical conquest, cultural conquest.

00:08:39.980 But actually, you know, a lot of people will prefer safety over trusting in God's ability to lead them into victory.

00:08:46.160 Again, by the proclamation of the gospel, that is our weapon.

00:08:49.320 And so this type of Christian pessimism has translated into, I think, at least three unbiblical beliefs that we can't ignore.

00:08:56.560 Number one, it views the church as an institution of failure.

00:09:00.800 When you hold a pessimistic eschatology, you believe that the body of Christ will never be able to effectively overcome evil in the world.

00:09:09.120 and that the gospel and the moral law are essentially not sufficient means to take dominion

00:09:15.300 of society. That's just, again, we could talk about that for so long. Number two,

00:09:20.680 it causes Christians to perceive cultural decline as a form of progress. Now, if you're a part of, 0.71

00:09:27.080 you know, like a Calvary Chapel branch or, you know, I respect Jack Hibbs. I think he's, you

00:09:31.600 know, I think he's a Christian man, but he's, he along with like, you know, the Left Behind series 0.98

00:09:36.560 in this world, you know, pessimistic eschatology drives Christians to anticipate failure.

00:09:44.100 David Chilton, who wrote Paradise Restored, once said, quote, those who hold to this ideology

00:09:49.680 do not rally under the banner of Christ is coming, but instead proclaim Antichrist is coming,

00:09:55.260 then Christ will come. In other words, so under the pessimistic view that is so common today,

00:10:00.580 tribulation essentially becomes some form of a hope, right? You're just waiting for that

00:10:05.180 tribulation to come because that means that Christ is coming back and so societal decay becomes like

00:10:09.720 an encouragement in some weird perverted and twisted way and instead of taking dominion they

00:10:16.280 celebrate the dominion of the devil as it means that essentially the escape of the world is near

00:10:20.740 it's coming and we can escape this world and leave this thing behind and Christ is going to come up

00:10:25.400 up this mess and do it all by himself and we're not a part of that because you know Christ does

00:10:28.960 it alone he doesn't do it with his body who is the church which I think is wrong so instead of

00:10:33.600 winning the physical world of Christ, they essentially resigned to lose the world for

00:10:38.840 Christ. Now, again, I think that a lot of people who are pessimistic in their eschatology,

00:10:48.780 they would never say that of themselves. So I would say they have blessed inconsistencies,

00:10:55.020 meaning that they actually act like they're optimistic. But they would say something more

00:10:59.600 like, you know, well, we lose down here, but we're going to try to lose slow or something along

00:11:05.280 those lines. They do fight back. I mean, John MacArthur has a pessimistic eschatology and he

00:11:10.260 certainly is not just like waiting for the world to fall apart. He certainly is fighting back. I

00:11:15.140 do believe it's a blessed inconsistency. Number three, it makes evangelism an invitation to join

00:11:21.880 the losing team. And this causes new converts to adopt like an underdog complex where they see

00:11:30.140 themselves as like a disadvantaged victim in this kind of spiritual battle here in the world. And

00:11:36.940 they believe that their ministry is going to essentially produce like diminishing returns as

00:11:41.300 the years go on. And these are all like due to factors that are beyond their control.

00:11:47.580 So pessimistic eschatology essentially undermines the transformative power of the gospel in the world,

00:11:53.840 presenting the church really as a community that's predestined to lose.

00:11:58.260 And again, this is just, we're going to see over this week and next week in the episode that that's not true.

00:12:05.120 We don't see that in the scriptures.

00:12:06.680 That's not even like a common historical view within the church.

00:12:10.620 so the point I'm trying to make is that perception has consequences it really does and I think that

00:12:20.380 we have a pretty common perception in the church today that it's just going to get worse and it

00:12:25.740 doesn't mean that again we're not going to have ups and downs and you know I often tell people

00:12:31.220 it's like a stock market right where you you have like ups and downs week after week month after

00:12:35.800 month, year after year. But if you zoom out over like 40 years, you realize the stock trend is

00:12:40.580 actually going up. And so, you know, we are living right now in a very difficult time and

00:12:46.320 Lord willing, the faithfulness of the church will allow it so that our grandchildren will not be

00:12:52.420 living the difficulty that we are living today. And so, you know, Christians form their way of 1.00

00:13:01.700 living from their eschatology and how we view God will actually translate into how we think

00:13:06.660 and how we behave and how we lead our homes. And so if we believe God, by the way, the

00:13:11.420 scriptures has promised the church eschatological defeat, then we're going to live as a defeated

00:13:16.820 church in time. Now, nobody thinks that we're going to be defeated in the spiritual realm.

00:13:23.400 Like, oh no, we're winning there, right? We're winning there. But are we going to actually

00:13:29.000 be defeated on earth, in a physical realm, in the culture, in civics, in politics, in media,

00:13:37.780 in the finance and economics world, in education, in even the home life, in whatever realm that you

00:13:48.420 want to add on there? Are we going to be defeated there? The now 93, 94-year-old dispensational

00:13:55.360 theologian Hal Lindsey once said, quote, we should be living like persons who don't expect to be

00:14:00.300 around much longer. So this guy was massively influential. I mean, massively influential on

00:14:05.820 this generation. So just think about the implications of that kind of fatalistic thinking.

00:14:12.180 Imagine someone who just received like a terminal diagnosis and is told they only have a year to

00:14:17.240 live. Okay. Will this person make significant plans for their future? You know, are they going

00:14:23.820 to start a new business? Are they going to launch a project that's going to take a decade

00:14:27.320 to finish? Are they going to begin dating somebody in hopes to marry them and start a family? And

00:14:33.880 you know, of course not, right? They're going to be reluctant to initiate anything

00:14:37.180 that would require more time than their expected lifespan. And as a result, short-term actions

00:14:44.360 will become their primary focus. And that is exactly how the church thinks today. You know,

00:14:49.520 immediate gratification, fleeting pleasures, and also simplicities. That's how a lot of people

00:14:53.380 or thinking in the church,

00:14:54.320 because when man has no purpose of long-term dominion,

00:14:57.500 multi-generational dominion,

00:14:59.320 his purpose becomes short-term pleasure.

00:15:01.140 That's just a fact.

00:15:03.580 And so again, I'm not necessarily throwing all the disbies 1.00

00:15:07.500 or all the pre-millennials like under the bus right here. 1.00

00:15:09.620 Like I'm just saying some,

00:15:11.440 I'm being more broad strokes here

00:15:15.240 in terms of just the concept of pessimistic eschatology

00:15:19.020 and what it does do to people and what it has done.

00:15:23.380 Clinically, you can recognize this probably in your own life.

00:15:26.680 And what is, again, what's happening in the church is what Hal Lindsey has certainly said.

00:15:35.760 We've had very little vision for cultural dominion because we don't feel like the culture is going to be here much longer, right?

00:15:41.640 You know, there's the quote, we don't polish brass on a sinking ship.

00:15:44.280 I mean, why am I going to go make something better that's going to hell in a handbasket?

00:15:47.140 And I have no way of actually, we're not going to turn this thing around.

00:15:50.560 This thing's like going to the dumpster fire. 0.69

00:15:53.380 And so as a result, the generation has grown up in a checked out Christianity that leads people to the cross and tells them just to stay right there and wait.

00:16:01.060 And, you know, really when the cross is the starting point and it really is the beginning, it's supposed to be picked up into every areas of our lives.

00:16:10.720 I love Doug Wilson's tagline for their ministry is, you know, all of Christ for all of life.

00:16:16.120 um furthermore uh because their perspective is convinced that christ is coming back at any

00:16:21.580 moment the imminent return of christ evangelism becomes their sole focus right so they evangelism

00:16:27.160 is just like like what else should we do besides evangelism we should just do evangelism right

00:16:31.520 you know again i could talk about the imminent return of christ for a second

00:16:35.160 if the if that doctrine is true the imminent return of christ he can come back at any moment

00:16:40.520 that it needed to be true 15 minutes after the ascension.

00:16:44.500 Because if it's not true then,

00:16:47.120 it has to be true in all time for it to actually be true.

00:16:51.360 And so, no, I mean, what was the Great Commission?

00:16:54.520 The Great Commission was go get the nations.

00:16:56.440 Go get the nations for Christ.

00:16:58.640 And we have certainly not done that at this point.

00:17:02.640 So I just don't think that we can believe

00:17:05.860 that there's evidence that Christ is returning anytime soon

00:17:08.380 based on that alone.

00:17:10.520 And so what we do is essentially, you know, we believe like the world is burning down, there's no time to build. There's just time to rescue, just get people out of the burning building, you know. And so the previous generation greatly withdrew from politics, we withdrew from education, civics, architecture, economics, entertainment, and they focused all their efforts on evangelistic outreach.

00:17:32.980 and we lost all these places of influence in society

00:17:40.200 because we didn't build anything multigenerationally

00:17:42.160 because we really thought that it was kind of the end of the world.

00:17:45.820 The World War I, World War II didn't help on these things.

00:17:48.740 We thought, oh, it's just going to, you know.

00:17:50.300 So there's just a lot of this stuff that really affected the way that the church operates.

00:17:54.700 And while they zeroed in on building megachurches

00:17:57.360 and win some strategies to save souls,

00:17:59.000 The secular regime essentially came in and took the spheres of societal influence.

00:18:05.360 And what happened is it's demonstrated that pagans are actually more interested in the discipleship of the culture than the church is.

00:18:12.900 You're going to be catechized.

00:18:14.660 You're either going to be catechized by the culture or you're going to be catechized by Christ.

00:18:19.280 And Christ is not Lord of just the church.

00:18:23.840 He's Lord of everything.

00:18:25.260 You know, the great commission, all authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth.

00:18:31.440 So this should frustrate you.

00:18:33.620 And it's Christians who have the commission to disciple the nations.

00:18:37.540 And the past century, the nations have been greatly discipling us. 0.96

00:18:42.300 And that has to stop.

00:18:43.920 And so perspective has consequences.

00:18:47.160 Now, on the other hand, if we as Christians believe the scriptures promise eschatological victory,

00:18:52.680 then we will live like victors who are engaged with the culture and who work to take dominion

00:19:00.340 over it. And we'll be those who plan to establish and build significant multi-generational projects

00:19:08.160 and beautiful church buildings that will last and maintain the soundness of the gospel and

00:19:15.100 ministries that glorify God for centuries. And we're going to run for political office and we're

00:19:20.900 going to start Christian schools, and we're going to establish banks and law offices and medical

00:19:25.340 practices, and we're going to secure influence over critical points of culture. And like many

00:19:33.900 of you, I've actually been really captivated by architecture and the extravagant cathedrals

00:19:40.960 that we've seen throughout history. And my absolute favorite is the Cologne Cathedral.

00:19:44.480 It's in Germany. It took 632 years to complete. It's Germany's most visited landmark.

00:19:50.900 proving that when Christians build beautiful things to the glory of God,

00:19:54.940 people actually want to visit and it attracts the masses.

00:19:57.780 And just one little point,

00:19:59.840 there's 108 gargoyles on this beautiful Gothic cathedral.

00:20:05.300 There's actually like details on the back of the gargoyles heads that like,

00:20:09.620 I mean, no one will see because they're on the top,

00:20:12.380 like hundreds of feet off the ground.

00:20:14.300 The top roof is shaped like a white cross.

00:20:17.980 and they did that before there were airplanes i mean nobody would ever see that cross they had

00:20:25.580 no understanding that anyone could ever see that i mean it's like a couple hundred feet up in the

00:20:29.140 air but it's a white cross if you fly over it and you can see that and so just think about that for

00:20:34.620 a moment the intentionality and commitment to uh produce that kind of work like can you start a

00:20:42.040 project that's like not going to be done for 500 years. Like what kind of, what kind of world is

00:20:48.040 that, that like where you can, you can build something that you're not going to ever see

00:20:52.420 finished. We don't think like that today. And, and so a person will never start these projects

00:21:00.280 that only their great, great, great, great grandchildren will see finished if they believe

00:21:04.520 that the world's circling the drain and essentially crisis coming back. And we just won't start

00:21:10.540 anything multigenerational. We just don't think that way. So all they can offer their great

00:21:14.620 grandchildren is an expectation for greater defeat. And that's just like a truth that we need

00:21:21.420 to really come to terms with. I was talking to a friend about this contrast between pessimistic

00:21:27.600 short-term Christianity and long-term Christianity, and how do we get back there? And the previous

00:21:32.560 generations of church history, you know, they were optimistic and how we're pessimistic and what

00:21:36.840 what happened. And he said to me, Dale, we will never be able to build what they built until we

00:21:41.340 believed what they believed. And I think that's a beautiful point to really consider. And, you know,

00:21:48.380 I'm going to give you an example, like here in Prescott, where our church is at Kingsway Bible

00:21:54.040 Church, the most beautiful building in our town is the courthouse. It's this big, beautiful, like

00:22:02.180 stone pillar courthouse. And there's a thing called courthouse square and there's all these

00:22:07.120 people and downtown is right there. And, and right now, like, I don't know, maybe 2 million people

00:22:13.820 come here for vacation every year. And we have all these people come and they congregate around

00:22:19.620 the courthouse. It literally is the most beautiful building that we have in our town. And now think

00:22:26.600 about what's happening here. We actually have like millions of visitors and all the people in our

00:22:30.900 town. We worship with our presence in a sense, because we want to be around this beautiful

00:22:37.340 architecture. And what is at the center of that architecture? We are literally loving

00:22:43.900 a government building. I mean, think about that. We are so infatuated that we want to come and see

00:22:52.740 this beautiful government building. Now, that is not what was happening in church history. What

00:22:58.520 is happening in church history is that towns will be built around churches. So the church would come

00:23:03.440 in first and the whole town will be built around it. And, and you can, again, in Europe, like the

00:23:08.780 most visited sites in Europe are the cathedrals of the churches, the beautiful historic buildings

00:23:13.100 there. And so imagine just for a second, like if we were able to build a $40 million beautiful

00:23:21.460 cathedral uh that you know it's committed to the gospel and proclaimed christ and and out front of

00:23:30.340 it had a playground and was just this magnificent piece of architecture that took 15 years to build

00:23:36.820 and it's just gorgeous and uh and imagine what that would do to a town um imagine like how

00:23:46.260 people would visit that town prescott and they'd come up here and they'd instead of wanting to be

00:23:50.340 around the courthouse they actually would oh we got to go see the cathedral well we got to go see

00:23:54.340 that beautiful church building um and you know there's tours the tours of the church and the

00:24:00.580 architecture and getting the gospel and whatever it may be now there's there's a beautiful you know

00:24:05.540 theology around this that essentially architecture catechizes people it instructs people it communicates

00:24:11.060 to people it and um you know there's there's other things around architecture that we should be

00:24:15.540 thinking about is that you know the buildings that we were in should should essentially match

00:24:19.460 the majesty of the gospel we preach. And there's also checks and balances on making sure that you

00:24:24.580 don't build things that are prideful or things that are beyond what is right. And so there's

00:24:30.580 a really great book you can read. It's called Let the Stones Cry Out by Douglas Wilson. It's really

00:24:38.420 a letter to his congregation about the building that they've saved up for 40 years to build

00:24:44.820 and the theological implications and warnings

00:24:48.880 and encouragements around that whole project.

00:24:51.620 And it's just something to check out.

00:24:54.460 But architecture is just one easy place

00:24:57.260 that we can communicate pessimism or optimism

00:24:59.300 through our eschatology.

00:25:02.480 And what we're seeing now is that, you know,

00:25:04.120 we're building churches inside of mini malls

00:25:05.800 and old Little Caesars and Pizza Hut buildings.

00:25:08.240 And, you know, people argue like,

00:25:10.180 well, it's not the building, it's the people.

00:25:12.180 And like, yeah, that's true, 100%.

00:25:13.920 100% that's true.

00:25:14.820 I totally agree with that.

00:25:16.920 My hope is that we don't just get content with that,

00:25:19.920 like that we're just going,

00:25:20.900 all we need is just, you know,

00:25:24.220 all we need is a shed and that's it.

00:25:27.080 And so I really do believe that the houses,

00:25:29.540 the house churches in China are absolutely glorifying God

00:25:32.020 just as much as the beautiful churches that are in Poland

00:25:35.160 or the beautiful churches that are in America.

00:25:38.560 Yeah, no doubt about it.

00:25:40.300 That being said, again,

00:25:41.280 it's something about our eschatology

00:25:42.720 and what does a building communicate to a city,

00:25:45.440 go to Salt Lake City just for a minute

00:25:47.240 and you're going to quickly learn

00:25:48.860 what architecture communicates.

00:25:50.700 You're going to see these Mormon churches everywhere

00:25:53.640 and temples everywhere 0.86

00:25:55.040 that basically become visual evidence

00:25:57.960 that this town or this city

00:26:01.740 is currently dominated by the Mormon God, right? 1.00

00:26:06.980 Which obviously is a false God, 0.99

00:26:08.460 but it's a real thing.

00:26:09.920 And so something that the church needs to think about, it's connected certainly to optimistic eschatology.

00:26:15.760 Again, you don't need to land the plane on amillennial or postmillennial or even wherever you're going to land.

00:26:20.540 It's really about optimistic eschatology.

00:26:23.060 And so I'm going to stop right there.

00:26:24.900 And you know what?

00:26:26.140 I'm going to turn this actually into a three-part series because I'm only halfway done with my notes here.

00:26:31.300 But I think it'll be better to be a three-part series in eschatology to continue the conversation around this.

00:26:35.560 It might even turn into a four part because I might want to teach on Matthew 24 at some point and walk you guys through that passage of scripture that a lot of people use regarding pessimistic eschatology.

00:26:47.720 So just hang with us on this journey on eschatology and hopefully it's helpful.

00:26:52.420 But we will get back into this topic next week on a three, four, five, 12, I don't know, 40 part series on eschatology.

00:27:01.220 Who knows?

00:27:02.200 So on that note, thanks for listening to this episode of Real Christianity.

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Dale Partridge - December 12, 2023

Are Most Christian's Pessimistic？ - Dale Partridge

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