00:00:00.000Hey there and welcome to this episode of How We Do House Church. My name is Dr. Jason Barker
00:00:12.880and I serve as the Academic Dean at Reformation Seminary. Reformation Seminary has the one goal
00:00:18.300of training men to plant biblical house churches all around the world. As always, I'm joined by0.88
00:00:23.560our founder and president, Dale Partridge. How's it going, Dale?
00:00:25.880Man, I'm excited for this conversation because one of the main critiques that we get as a house church network and community is around this topic.
00:00:35.780Absolutely. Yeah. There's a viewpoint or an opinion or an image of house church today, which is, I know you've used the comparison before of, say, a restaurant versus a hot dog stand, right? Talk to me about that for just a minute.
00:00:51.960Yeah. So when we think about house church, a lot of people go, is this some kind of fly-by-night operation here? And I have a little analogy between hot dog stands and restaurants. The hot dog stand takes very little. The barrier to entry is quite low. You need maybe $5,000 and a passion for hot dogs.
00:01:18.100um now if you have a restaurant it takes you know more like a million dollars and a full business
00:01:29.980plan and a financial model and lots of training and a chef and a team and and so uh my experience
00:01:37.380is that traditional churches have been more like the restaurant and they viewed the house church
00:01:43.660more like the hot dog stand. And what we have to do and what I've made the commitment to do for
00:01:51.740our ministry here at Reformation Seminary and Reformation Fellowship is that we have to treat
00:01:56.060the hot dog stand like the restaurant. We have to train and prepare and plan and study in a way
00:02:08.200that is equivalent to the work that would be required
00:06:19.320And that's really the benefit of house churches that are united together in a network like this one is that we have this theological grounding.
00:06:26.780And we're expecting these men and these pastors to be in substantial alignment with that.
00:09:18.500Are they dealing with any sins that are absolutely overcoming them?
00:09:24.100And so we try to do a lot of this through seminary as we evaluate these men.
00:09:27.640But that is an absolute commitment. So you have not just the confession of faith, but you have men who stand behind that, who have been qualified, ordained. Doesn't mean that men can't fail. They can, but it is another check in the process of sustaining strong gatherings.
00:09:45.700Right. And sort of in line with that, when the men go through seminary at Reformation Seminary and they graduate, they're ordained, they go out and they plant a church, we're not just sending them out there on their own, right? They're not just going out into a vacuum to minister as they best see fit and without any assistance along the way. We actually have the Reformation Fellowship Church Planting Network.
00:10:07.700Now, I want to be clear, we're not a denomination. We don't function that way. But there is a certain alignment between these churches to be a part of that network. So talk with us for just a minute about what is the network? What does it do with particular attention to how it helps hold pastors and churches accountable?
00:10:28.160Yeah, I often say we're not a denomination, we're an association of biblical house churches around the world. And we're early, if you're listening to this in real time. This is still pretty early. We have a handful of churches that are in this network. As men graduate and get trained and planted, they're being added to that network.
00:10:45.680But the network allows us to keep up on a biannual basis.
00:10:51.300So every six months, checking in with them, making sure that they are still substantially
00:10:56.080affirming that statement of faith, making sure that they're heads above water, talking
00:11:02.040to a few of their members at their church to make sure that things are going well over
00:11:10.100and we basically allow them to maintain good standing in the network so that if you're a
00:11:17.280visitor, you can go to the website at Reformation Fellowship. You see a church in your area on our
00:11:21.480church finder and you can see that, oh, this guy graduated from seminary. This guy is in good
00:11:28.360standing with the network. You can see that he's married. He's got kids. You can see maybe a little
00:11:33.640bio about him. And so we want to help guests feel comfortable that this is a trusted pastor
00:11:42.480that they can bring their family to and have coffee with for a potential invitation to the
00:11:48.780church. And so the network is ongoing accountability. In addition to that, when churches
00:11:57.040multiply, when a house church multiplies, it multiplies into what we call a parish.
00:12:01.380Really, this is the idea that the church that planted and multiplies into two churches, those churches become connected at a local level.
00:12:13.840Those elders of those two gatherings, because they're essentially sister churches, can have accountability to one another locally.
00:12:22.500And so if you have something go rogue with one church, they can talk to the elders of the church in their hometown as another layer of accountability.
00:12:29.760They also would share things like a calendar where they might do maybe if they could baptisms together or if they're doing a parenting class by one of the families in congregation C, the people from congregation A and B are welcome to come to that parenting class.
00:12:46.880So it creates this ability where you can have not just the intimacy of the house church,
00:12:52.760but the capability of the traditional church.
00:12:56.220It allows you to have that larger, we're going to do a worship and prayer night.
00:13:01.160We're going to have a Christmas Eve service.
00:13:02.900We're going to have an Easter sunrise service together.
00:13:05.740Yes, and we're going to go meet at the park and you're going to have three churches.
00:13:09.460You're going to have 30 families that get together,
00:13:11.900or you're going to do something in the summer like a family camp or whatever it may be.
00:13:15.680And so that's another layer of accountability. So we are working very hard to create that. And I think as time goes on, because our ministry, guys, if you're new here, we are pioneering, by God's grace, the house church movement in this generation.
00:13:36.440And so this is still very new. Our job, really, and I feel my calling is to really legitimize house church as a valid alternative for the modern Western church. And so we're working up. We're working hard to create accountability, to create trust. And I expect that it'll get stronger and stronger as the years go by.
00:14:05.200Yeah. You know, Dale, one of our goals has always been as we're planting churches to keep them connected to where if a family is attending a Reformation Fellowship Network church in Southern California, where I live, and they want to, they move to Sedona, Arizona, or they're vacationing here one weekend, that they can go to that church and expect to have not an identical experience, but a very similar experience that they can trust is going to be grounded in the same doctrine and the same practice.
00:14:35.200And that's really the beauty of what we're trying to put together here.
00:14:38.740Yeah. And Lord willing, 10 years from today, there will be several hundred biblical house churches in the Reformation Fellowship. And we can create a movement of deeply connected Christian individuals and families.
00:15:01.760And if you're interested, I mean, I'm telling you here, I'm looking at the camera now.
00:15:05.840If you're interested in being a part of what we're doing, men, enroll.
00:15:13.260We do classes every six months that go for a year.
00:15:17.900And so the seminary is a one-year program.
00:15:20.080So we would love to have you as a part of our program.
00:15:28.800I mean, if you're called to ministry, I think we've had so many guys that are self-employed individuals who really are excited because they felt called to ministry, but not full-time, get the building, do the big thing with the staff, all encompassing, all in traditional church planting.
00:15:54.340But they found that, wow, I can keep my job. We have police officers, we have firemen, we have electricians, we have all these men that have been able to come in, be a part of the network, be a part of the seminary, and really obey that calling to ministry without radically changing their entire life.
00:16:17.780Right. You know, it's interesting that we're on this topic on this day because here today in real time when we're recording this, we're getting ready to welcome our fourth group of men, our fourth cohort of men to Sedona today for their first intensive.
00:16:34.480And I know it's a little bit off topic, but we're here. So let's talk about it for a second. What is going to happen this weekend for these men? What are they doing? Why does it matter? Why is it great?
00:16:43.500Every group of guys that comes in, we're coming close on 75 students that have gone through the program or in the program.
00:16:51.420And our intensive today is going to teach men how to prepare an expository sermon from start to finish.
00:17:01.160And it's a wonderful experience from block diagramming to grammar to clausal layouts to how to study scripture and to extract the meaning of the text.
00:17:11.960And we teach men everything that I learned from John MacArthur and Dr. Steve Lawson, who was my professor for preaching.
00:17:21.240And we teach these things to these men so that these guys at these churches are faithful expositors of the word.
00:17:28.860And they know how to study their Bible hermeneutically, exegetically, and faithfully.
00:17:37.900Yeah, these intensives are so great because the guys come together, they learn, they fellowship, they hang out, and there's some late nights, there's just time chatting, hanging out, and some of the later intensives when families are invited to attend, we have activities for wives, and we coordinate informal things for the kids that come along, and it really is this expanding family of house church planters, and so it's a huge thing to be a part of.
00:18:01.620Again, if that sounds like something you're interested in finding more information about, we welcome you to, number one, pick up a copy of Dale's book, How We Do House Church.
00:18:09.980This is going to answer and expand on a lot of the answers that we gave today, a lot of the questions that we've reviewed in these podcasts.
00:18:17.740If you really want some specific information on planting a house church, head to reformationseminary.com, fill out an enrollment inquiry.