Dale Partridge - How to Protect Your Kids From Transgenderism - Dale and Veronica Partridge

00:00:00.000 Welcome to a special edition of Real Christianity, which is special because my wife is back

00:00:27.580 on the show she used to be on the podcast for i don't know two years or so yeah probably and about

00:00:35.500 two years ago yeah we did a series we originally started the podcast as ultimate marriage and

00:00:43.660 then shifted it to real christianity after maybe i don't know 80 episodes or something

00:00:48.940 and so we're back and she's only back for this one episode we're going to be talking

00:00:53.660 about my newest kid's book, Jesus and My Gender.

00:00:58.920 And she volunteered because she was so excited

00:01:02.360 to get back on camera to interview me on this topic.

00:01:07.060 Okay.

00:01:07.780 It was actually-

00:01:08.540 We'll go with it.

00:01:09.360 Yeah.

00:01:09.600 It was actually my assistant, Brittany.

00:01:11.700 Yes.

00:01:12.260 Who-

00:01:13.700 Suggested it.

00:01:14.780 Yeah.

00:01:15.400 Aggressively suggested. 1.00

00:01:17.200 She's aggressively helpful. 0.99

00:01:18.560 Aggressively helpful that we do this conversation.

00:01:22.780 And so she even wrote some questions.

00:01:25.400 And by she, I mean Brittany wrote some questions that Veronica is going to ask me about this

00:01:29.140 topic.

00:01:29.560 So we're going to talk about Jesus and my gender, and you're going to learn about that.

00:01:33.780 And if you want to order it at any point, you can go to relearn.org forward slash gender.

00:01:38.640 You can also watch this episode.

00:01:40.380 If you're listening to it, you can see Veronica in her beautiful orange dress.

00:01:45.760 And you can kind of say hi to us digitally that way, if you'd like to, instead of just

00:01:50.620 listening.

00:01:50.960 Yeah, send a hand emoji waving.

00:01:51.900 Yeah. Yeah. We'll look at the comments. So, okay, let's go ahead and dive in. You can ask questions

00:01:56.520 and I will answer them. Cool. Let's go for it. Okay. We're just going to hop right in. Thanks

00:02:00.240 for having me back on your show, Dale. First question, where did you get the idea for the

00:02:05.260 book, Jesus and My Gender? Yeah. I think that there was a lack of resources around

00:02:11.200 the topic of transgenderism, which obviously we're seeing even this morning, we were talking about

00:02:17.140 how Matt Walsh is really hitting this issue hard.

00:02:21.340 There was a lack of resources.

00:02:23.920 There's so many individuals out there

00:02:26.060 that are needing answers to hard questions.

00:02:30.140 These parents that are going,

00:02:31.720 hey, my child is being confronted

00:02:33.260 with this content at school.

00:02:35.180 Their friends are changing their gender.

00:02:38.460 Trans theory is being taught

00:02:39.860 in the public school system.

00:02:41.880 They're seeing bathroom signs 0.87

00:02:43.820 that have the cross gender.

00:02:45.620 you know, it's like the half man, half woman, half dress kind of icon. And so these conversations

00:02:50.620 are coming up. Yeah, they're getting kind of hit from every angle. Yeah, I think I saw some stat

00:02:55.520 that was saying that by the age of five, children will have over a thousand instances of sexual

00:03:07.080 perversion. And so they're going to see that just in public, especially if you live in like a big

00:03:11.780 city or if your kids are maybe on YouTube or on the internet, those things kind of slip in.

00:03:18.980 TV commercials, TV shows, it's just everywhere. And so we are at a point in the church where

00:03:27.460 Christian parents need resources to not necessarily build an apologetic against the transgender

00:03:34.420 and trans theory movement, but really to affirm biblical gender and roles for their boys and

00:03:43.820 girls. And so we wanted to create a resource that was well-designed. I hope if you're not new here

00:03:52.460 that you learn that we really care about design over at ReLearn. And so everything we do, we try

00:03:57.840 to do well. And so we wanted to write a good book with great illustrations. Brad Smith was

00:04:04.140 the illustrator on the project and he worked really hard to make the illustrations fun

00:04:09.500 he's a professional illustrator working with some of the biggest publishing houses around and so

00:04:14.540 it's a great uh illustrations and then i i made it a rhyming book right it's really fun for younger

00:04:20.540 children um you know little kids preschool age younger elementary really love that rhyming it

00:04:26.300 helps you know developmentally with their with the way that they learn yeah and i think about

00:04:31.580 like really nice touch and as a parent i like rhyming books better i don't know why like we

00:04:36.700 read that pilgrim's progress book that was a full rhyming book of pilgrim's progress and that was

00:04:42.460 fun to read i don't know maybe it's just me that i like rhyming books um so that was a great

00:04:46.940 opportunity to write this book in a rhyming uh rhyming way but again we just wanted to offer

00:04:51.820 tools and resources to affirm biblical gender a strong offense is the best defense if that makes

00:04:59.660 sense for example i love having a really beautiful lawn now i don't get to do that here not in 0.63

00:05:06.300 arizona not in arizona but in oregon rocks guys in oregon i was the lawn guy i had like an acre

00:05:13.420 of grass that i would be almost the kind of guy that would get out there with scissors but not

00:05:17.740 that far um and the best the best defense is a good offense meaning the best defense is

00:05:23.340 is to have really strong grass kills weeds.

00:05:28.840 And so the same thing here is really strong identity

00:05:32.800 in their biblical gender actually will fight against

00:05:38.260 any perversion of it.

00:05:40.200 And so that's the attempt for this book.

00:05:43.940 Great.

00:05:44.900 All right, what is the goal behind writing this book?

00:05:48.200 Yeah, the goal I want to see parents

00:05:53.340 have a sense of confidence and normalcy of affirming these kind of truths in their kids.

00:05:58.960 I don't want them to feel like they're, there's almost like a sense of if you're talking about

00:06:05.600 these things, you're mean or you're unloving. It's like, no, this is, you know, it is loving

00:06:11.620 your children, discipling them, teaching them, you know, training them up in the admonition

00:06:16.420 training of the Lord. Yes, it is. I just put out something on social media that a great way to

00:06:23.180 love your or you know rejecting trans theory is a great way to love your neighbor and um and playing

00:06:29.640 into people's delusions is a great way to hate your neighbor and this is true even with our own

00:06:35.820 children it's a great way to love your children is to teach them what is true about who they are 0.57

00:06:41.860 god doesn't make mistakes there is no opportunity or chance that a boy is stuck into a girl's body

00:06:48.860 because God doesn't make those mistakes.

00:06:51.660 He made us male and female.

00:06:53.560 And so the goal is to really affirm children in who they are.

00:07:00.740 And by giving them a vision of who they are,

00:07:04.040 helping your little boys and your little girls

00:07:07.020 see not just what they are as little boys,

00:07:09.580 but what they will become as men and women.

00:07:12.380 Giving them vision.

00:07:13.500 Yes.

00:07:14.540 And the goal is two-sided, right?

00:07:18.080 It's the parents that get to feel prepared and equipped and affirmed that it is good and right and true to teach these things to your children, even if we're living in a culture that says that's unloving or mean.

00:07:33.320 And then it's also for the children so that they would feel confident and rest in the gender that the Lord has given them and have no doubts and have no concerns about that.

00:07:47.540 but actually be excited to be a boy and be excited to be a girl and be excited for what

00:07:53.860 that means for the future. Cool. Okay. So how have you and I, but this is an interview geared

00:08:01.360 towards you. How have you navigated these topics of transgenderism, things like that

00:08:06.660 with our own children? Yeah. So our kids are pretty young. We don't necessarily open up the

00:08:15.700 entire uh the entire canister on the topic where we're giving them details of what is really going

00:08:25.240 on but what we have done is consistently given them a definition a vision um for who they are

00:08:35.720 and so you know you find me often talking to aria about praying for her future husband and

00:08:43.400 praying for, uh, her to, uh, have many children. And that would be a blessing to her. And that

00:08:51.560 would be a blessing to us as grandparents and, and same with our boys, you know, you know,

00:08:56.440 honor will sometimes run around and I want 10 kids or I want five kids or whatever. And just

00:09:02.080 nurturing an appetite for the traditional family and nurturing that desire for those things. Um,

00:09:13.400 and we do i would say over emphasize masculine traits and feminine traits in our kids meaning

00:09:20.200 that we kind of play them up a bit um you know if if valor jumps off of the you know the fence

00:09:29.560 it's like oh awesome i'm so glad that you did that i mean that's so cool you're so strong and

00:09:35.320 you know brave and courageous to do things like that yeah or if honor came up to me today and he

00:09:40.920 said hey dad just want to let you know i told mom that she looks good in her dress today

00:09:44.680 you know and i said i i said that's great honor you always want to compliment women because they're

00:09:49.400 so beautiful you know and so we're kind of accentuating and magnifying these masculine

00:09:57.160 and feminine traits within our kids i don't know what do you have to say on that um yeah no i agree

00:10:02.840 i am i think our kids living in the area that we do you kind of mentioned earlier how some people

00:10:07.480 are a little bit more exposed to this than others because of the areas that we've lived in or that

00:10:11.240 they've lived in we recently had a couple move here from florida um and i was like what's been

00:10:17.400 the biggest difference obviously arizona is very different than florida and she said honestly i

00:10:22.600 think just how much in your face like just the west is compared to the east coast like yeah

00:10:28.840 it's just rainbow flags everywhere and signs everywhere and the people you actually see it

00:10:35.800 in front of you she's like we just don't really see that we're particularly where they lived in

00:10:39.400 florida um and i was like oh yeah like that's kind of normal for us because we dill and i

00:10:45.400 grew up in southern california and we lived there for most of our life and then we lived in oregon

00:10:50.280 which i think everybody kind of knows the reputation that oregon has um we lived there

00:10:55.000 for seven years and then now we're in arizona and we're um you know we're in sedona which

00:11:02.680 it's a very dark spiritually dark place and um and so yeah our kids have been at the grocery

00:11:09.560 store with me and have seen um an employee that is was born a man and is dressed like a woman and

00:11:17.720 it's evident that it is a man dressed as a woman and um they've actually come to the point where

00:11:24.600 um you know i get to the checkout line line and i'm like oh no what's this first thing what are

00:11:28.840 my kid's gonna say right now and you can tell that my older two just kind of like are observing

00:11:35.880 but they didn't say anything and then we we leave and we get in the car and honor honor our son our

00:11:41.400 oldest son uh he's six goes mom we need to pray for that man i was like you're right we do we do

00:11:49.320 need to pray for that man and um they just they recognized right away that that something was not

00:11:55.480 right and so um yeah i just often remind them like you know we do we you know we don't get to

00:12:03.640 be rude or aggressive or mean to them but we do get to pray for them we get to share the gospel

00:12:07.560 with them um and lord willing you know the lord will open their eyes to their sin and they repent

00:12:13.880 and come to him yeah the the the thing about the gospel is that when we find our identity in christ

00:12:20.200 and we actually can trust that we have a good and sovereign God

00:12:24.700 who has created us intentionally for good works, for the purpose of his will,

00:12:31.300 we can root ourselves and trust ourselves.

00:12:35.500 Even if our feelings or emotions are contrary to what is true,

00:12:40.740 we can rest in Christ and rest in God.

00:12:44.380 And that's the reality of the gospel.

00:12:46.460 And what we need to constantly reaffirm our children is that the gospel can take the darkest, the most grievous perversion or distortion and actually make it new and actually restore it to being right.

00:13:02.000 And people in this world that have statements like, I was born this way.

00:13:10.160 And that is generally a pretty common response from individuals in that community.

00:13:16.160 We often say, well, hey, I was born broken too.

00:13:20.400 I was born with a desire for sexual perversion or for anger or for hatred or for wickedness.

00:13:27.120 I was born that way too.

00:13:28.320 And it's why I needed to be born again.

00:13:29.840 And so that conversation is important of communicating to your children that it's not about, you can't persuade these individuals into correct thinking.

00:13:45.300 There actually needs to be, they don't need to be better.

00:13:47.420 They need to be made new.

00:13:48.920 And the only way someone's made new is the gospel.

00:13:51.260 And so it's a delicate process of working through and teaching your kids by demonstrating examples how that would actually work out.

00:13:59.840 Uh, but I think more and more parents are getting those opportunities every day because they're running into them at the grocery store and everywhere they're going. So, um, anyways, good conversation about that. But let's, let's move on to the, cause we got a couple more questions that are, I don't want to talk about Veronica before she's like, stop answering questions that I haven't asked you yet.

00:14:18.580 didn't say it that aggressively i just said you said it's i was like i don't know if this is going

00:14:23.380 to take as long as you think that it's going to take and he's like well yeah it might because i

00:14:27.300 talk a lot and i said well the issue with you talking a lot is that you generally jump ahead

00:14:32.100 of me and answer questions that i have planned on asking but then i get to them and i'm like uh

00:14:37.700 he already answered this so hopefully we don't run into that but anyway um what age range is

00:14:44.020 this book targeted for i think three to ten i mean it's ten is pushing it um yeah i'd say maybe like

00:14:56.100 eight or nine yeah um i mean aria has been around she's gonna be nine and she's she's an artist so

00:15:03.060 she's enjoying watching the art be developed for this and and dad can you read can you read me your

00:15:07.860 book and and so i think that she's already established well there's a couple special

00:15:13.060 touches in the art right there is actually there's there's several instances where i have integrated

00:15:20.580 our children or our family into the uh illustrations of the book or just kind of

00:15:27.060 things about our family inspired you know yeah not necessarily like that is our kid or that is our

00:15:32.260 kid it's just things that from our family that have inspired some of the illustrations and artwork

00:15:37.940 in yeah for for example if you're a san francisco dodge or san francisco giants fan you will be

00:15:43.220 angry because there is a dodgers pennant um in the in one of the rooms in there so there's some

00:15:49.460 small things like that that's kind of fun little personal touches yeah little personal touches but

00:15:53.140 i think um this book will be formative for children between the ages of three and seven

00:16:01.460 i think that if you're hoping for these things to be formative in your eight nine and ten year olds

00:16:08.580 i think you're um it'll be helpful um and another ingredient to the masterpiece recipe that you're

00:16:17.940 producing of biblical thinking and biblical worldview it'll be another helpful addition

00:16:24.100 to that but but these conversations people need to happen young i think you were just reading

00:16:28.660 with the ladies' mama bear apologetics.

00:16:32.780 And I know one of the kind of topics or themes of the book

00:16:37.480 is parents need to be the first to talk about these things.

00:16:41.720 Like you don't want your kids to be addressed on these matters

00:16:46.940 before you had a chance to communicate.

00:16:50.460 Yeah, because they might be addressed by a peer

00:16:52.560 who has two moms or two dads.

00:16:54.640 Yes, or addressed by someone

00:16:57.140 doesn't share a biblical worldview right or someone who's actually aggressive and um

00:17:04.340 intending to pervert or distort your child right and so we need to be

00:17:10.660 uh first yeah what's proactive proactive there you go and and younger than we we were that i

00:17:16.180 think is the hardest part for our generation yeah unfortunately we are having to have these

00:17:20.020 conversations with our kids younger than yeah because i don't think i was really exposed to

00:17:24.100 anything like that maybe the earliest was junior high and then high school was like oh i act there's

00:17:30.500 actually gay people around like that was there was like five in my high school for 5 000 people

00:17:36.660 you know it's just it was not nearly as prevalent as it um as it is today yeah as it is well but

00:17:43.700 thinking about this like nobody had to talk to me about transgenderism because it wasn't even

00:17:52.020 I mean, it was so absurd that, you know, they called these people at that time when I was a kid transvestites or they called them cross dressers, you know, it was such a insanely distant idea of reality that it didn't need to be really it didn't need to be communicated.

00:18:13.060 And so, we're almost shocked in this generation to go, do I really got to talk to my four-year-old about this?

00:18:20.820 And unfortunately, because you're going to bump into somebody at the grocery store, or you already have, it is wise to talk to them.

00:18:28.960 Now, again, talking to them about it doesn't mean opening up the entire bag and throwing them in there and letting them see all the dark elements of it all.

00:18:38.760 but it does mean building that offense remember the offense giving it to them in bite-sized pieces

00:18:45.060 of what their maturity level can handle yeah exactly okay um how do you hope this book

00:18:52.320 will help parents navigate this subject without exposing them like you just said to the full way

00:18:57.460 of the distortion of gender in our modern world i stopped myself just so you know from answering

00:19:02.540 this question in advance because i knew it was coming and i didn't want to play into your rain

00:19:09.500 it in play into your uh projected hey i know you failure you've been married a while um figured it

00:19:16.140 out yeah so you don't want to bring them all the way in to the deep end of the pool on this matter

00:19:25.100 regarding homosexuality, regarding transgenderism,

00:19:29.140 regarding, you know, pornography. 0.84

00:19:32.660 You don't want to take them too deep, too fast.

00:19:36.020 You need to be willing to have the conversation.

00:19:39.500 I mean, there's a book on pornography.

00:19:40.860 I think it's like Good Images, Bad Images

00:19:42.320 or something like that that we read to our kids.

00:19:44.000 Oh, Good Pictures, Bad Pictures.

00:19:44.860 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:45.060 I think there's like two of them.

00:19:46.580 I think there's one that's like for a little bit older kids

00:19:48.300 and I think there's like a Good Pictures,

00:19:49.580 Bad Pictures Junior or something like that.

00:19:51.420 Yeah. And so it does take tact and wisdom on how far you go and based off of the individual

00:20:05.600 child's maturity level. And so for this book, we didn't go super far. The farthest page we went

00:20:14.540 with is that we had, there's a picture of a boy and a girl on the left and right-hand side of the

00:20:20.080 page and stringing across both sides of the, uh, kind of the landscape of the entire spread

00:20:25.620 is a handful of crayon drawings, um, of heads and bodies. And it shows a head of like a cat

00:20:34.660 with like a mermaid's body and it's crossed out. And it's like, that's, that can't happen. Right.

00:20:39.680 And then it's like, um, a picture of like a man's face with a mustache and like a woman's dress.

00:20:48.520 you're like that can't happen that you know the kids realize like that's that's not right you know

00:20:53.480 and it's kind of playful and then you know um a woman's body and like a guy like muscle flexing 0.92

00:20:59.340 with like a six-pack and you're like oh that that's not that's not right and so you you that

00:21:04.340 that's as far as we've gone and there's really not even a verbalized condemnation of that

00:21:12.880 um in the book but it does visually present like you can point out like that like how honor did

00:21:19.720 at the grocery store like he doesn't necessarily know the deep end of what's going on but he knew

00:21:24.660 something was not right i mean even yesterday we're away from where we currently live about

00:21:29.840 an hour away and we stopped to get lunch and we went inside and we came back out and we get in

00:21:36.600 the car and honor again goes mom i saw something inappropriate in there and i said what was it

00:21:42.080 And he said, well, some guy was on his phone and I just saw a girl dancing and he's like,

00:21:48.660 but I turned my eyes away.

00:21:49.660 I didn't look.

00:21:50.840 And he just, again, like had that conviction already at six years old of being like, okay,

00:21:55.840 like that wasn't right.

00:21:57.480 I'm going to not look at that.

00:21:58.740 And he still communicated that to me when we got in the car.

00:22:01.660 And I just, I don't know.

00:22:02.800 Hey, like, I'm really proud of you for doing that.

00:22:04.240 I'm not mad at you.

00:22:05.280 Like you can't control sometimes all the things that your eyes are going to see, but

00:22:09.600 you can make the choice as to what you're going to continue to see and what you're not going to

00:22:13.960 continue to see yeah and this is just again the result of constantly upholding a biblical view

00:22:22.780 of modesty a biblical view of of you know what our bodies are to be protected and therefore our

00:22:31.060 spouses and we teach that even to our kids and and again very easy ways and general ways right now

00:22:37.560 and as they get older they get more specific it's also helpful when you have boys and girls

00:22:41.960 because they've got brothers and sisters and so it's like the boys know that if their sister

00:22:46.280 is changing or something to not be trying to mess around with her and pop their heads in

00:22:50.760 her room or something like that it actually is it's a pretty strict boundary it's a very helpful

00:22:56.520 um helpful thing to teach your boys about your about girls by using the dynamics of the home

00:23:04.680 like a brother and sister relationship. So yes, we don't want to expose them too much.

00:23:11.640 You get to as a parent as they get older to bring more and more clarity. The one thing about this

00:23:16.300 book that we did is that we put scripture verses throughout the entire, every page has scripture

00:23:21.040 verses. We also included a kid's catechism on gender, five questions and answers at the end

00:23:28.020 that really kind of affirm the biblical truths throughout the book. And you can memorize it.

00:23:32.640 me pretty quick like probably in one day your kids can memorize it but um we want you guys to go

00:23:36.960 through it several times just to help affirm that i again i want to say one last thing is that

00:23:42.720 when the whole idea of the best defense is a good offense the same thing is true you guys if

00:23:48.800 if you've been in the church for any period of time you've heard this analogy because it's just

00:23:52.640 a christian thing that many pastors have done but counterfeits are best detected by the fbi

00:24:00.080 by those agents, not because the agents have been studying counterfeits. They actually don't study

00:24:08.680 counterfeits. They study the real thing. And so that when a counterfeit arises, they spot it

00:24:16.740 immediately. And so that's, I think, what's happening even with our own children is that

00:24:20.540 when you affirm them in biblical identity and truth about men and women, about the family,

00:24:27.060 about the purpose of the family, about the joys and excitement and vision and future of marriage

00:24:32.160 and family and God's intentional design for that and his glorification that comes through that.

00:24:39.580 When you teach those things and then a counterfeit is presented, it becomes obvious to a child.

00:24:47.980 And so again, our generation didn't have to affirm us or our parents that to be a boy is a boy thing

00:24:56.100 and to be a girl is a girl thing

00:24:57.360 and that you guys are going to get married one day

00:24:59.040 and you're going to have children.

00:25:00.640 Like that is, you know,

00:25:02.400 I even wrote the introduction to the parents

00:25:04.080 and I wrote this book would have seemed absurd

00:25:06.520 to almost every generation prior to us.

00:25:10.860 Like it's sad that this book even has to be written.

00:25:14.140 But it does and it's a fun way to affirm those truths

00:25:18.120 and I think it gives parents a blueprint of how to do so

00:25:23.380 and will probably give you a bunch of other ideas

00:25:26.960 to yeah and if your kids a little bit older while you're reading it with them it can at least

00:25:31.840 start some conversations with your with your older child you know that's maybe not necessarily

00:25:37.600 really desiring rhyming books as much but you can maybe be reading it to their younger sibling and

00:25:41.920 then it sparks a conversation with your older child well dale are there any other can we expect

00:25:49.840 any children's books from you in the future other children's books in the future i had a blast

00:25:55.760 doing children's books um this book i am working on a catechism for kids i think unfortunately our

00:26:04.560 generation of of christian parents were not catechized and i think very few were yeah i

00:26:13.040 think it's because that word has been so deeply associated with the catholic church that the

00:26:18.880 The Protestant church basically was like, nope, we're not going to do that catechism stuff.

00:26:25.880 And so many of us don't even know the systematic tenets of the faith.

00:26:32.360 So I think this generation is changing that.

00:26:35.700 We are realizing that we need to have strong, biblical, rooted Christian kids that are anchored in God's design.

00:26:45.980 And this tool, which is, again, kind of another offense, makes the best defense, is strengthening your kids in biblical doctrine.

00:26:55.020 And I'm putting together a catechism called Simple Theology.

00:26:59.420 It's 100 questions.

00:27:00.840 It's broken down into three levels.

00:27:04.540 So every question has three levels of answers.

00:27:07.000 So for little kids, medium-aged kids, all the way up to like the oldest one might be for 12-year-olds, but it's fine for adults too.

00:27:15.160 Yeah, especially if you weren't catechized

00:27:17.440 and you don't understand theology

00:27:19.160 and you're just kind of getting into that,

00:27:22.140 I think it would be really helpful for adults

00:27:24.300 if you're just trying to understand basic theology.

00:27:26.360 Yeah, basically as you catechize your kids,

00:27:28.660 you will be catechized, which is a great thing.

00:27:30.580 And so those categories that we have,

00:27:32.540 the seeds, sprouts, and vines that we call them.

00:27:35.700 So your little seedlings are your little ones

00:27:39.040 and they have easier answers to the same question.

00:27:42.280 And then your sprouts are a little bit older

00:27:43.720 and then your vines are your older kids.

00:27:46.160 And so it's a pretty big project

00:27:50.160 because the illustrations need to be,

00:27:51.960 I'm trying to do hand-drawn illustrations

00:27:53.660 that are beautiful and kind of a classic,

00:27:56.040 nice, high-quality book.

00:27:58.400 And so that just takes a lot of time.

00:28:01.320 It just takes a lot of time.

00:28:02.160 And I wish that the text is almost done,

00:28:05.480 but it's gonna take probably another six months

00:28:07.480 before that's even actually ready to buy.

00:28:09.760 But I think parents are chomping at the bit to get that because they want a good resource that's not overwhelming.

00:28:19.380 And so, yes, so Simple Theology is coming out.

00:28:22.100 But for Jesus and My Gender, if you guys want to pick up a copy, and it would be really a blessing to our ministry because the book sales really fund everything that we do.

00:28:34.240 I don't make any more money.

00:28:35.720 We don't make any more money when a book sells.

00:28:38.940 so all of the money from the book sales go to the ministry and you can pick that up at relearn.org

00:28:48.140 forward slash gender and it's a it'll be available if you're listening to this real time

00:28:54.500 it'll be available we are printing them right now so we printing we're printing several thousand

00:29:00.780 copies we've had over i don't know if it's over but it's close to 2 000 people pre-order the book

00:29:08.180 and it'll be printed in our hands

00:29:12.480 by end of November, early December, 2022

00:29:16.080 and will be available to ship for this Christmas.

00:29:20.240 And so if you want it for Christmas,

00:29:23.580 if you want it to give to somebody else for Christmas

00:29:25.280 or, which I think people should do,

00:29:27.840 is get it and put it in their local library.

00:29:30.820 How do you get that?

00:29:31.220 A lot of those books,

00:29:33.320 or not books,

00:29:34.660 a lot of towns have those little

00:29:36.620 give a book, take a book,

00:29:38.180 oh yeah what are those called library little libraries they're just like on street corners

00:29:42.700 yes they're just like in neighborhoods there's one at a park here like buy a few copies and

00:29:47.300 stick them in there yeah um how do you get books into a library can you just drop out books there's

00:29:51.880 like a board or something like that i don't know like approves the books but um that might be a

00:29:56.760 little bit more difficult unless you know somebody that's kind of inside yeah but for your church's

00:30:02.380 library you can take it to your church put it in your church's library for the kids ministries or

00:30:06.440 whatever that are there, but we just want to get this book out. So you can get that at

00:30:11.400 relearn.org for slash gender, and we'd love to send you a copy. So thanks for being with us.

00:30:19.200 Thanks for joining Veronica's re-debut. Re-debut. Re-debut to the internet. It's a new word. Yeah.

00:30:27.480 And if you guys are a regular listener to this podcast, you guys can just tap the stars to leave

00:30:34.100 a review. You don't even need to write anything, but if you do leave a review, it will be very

00:30:37.160 helpful for our ministry. A lot of people find us because of the reviews, because we have 6,000

00:30:41.720 plus reviews. And Apple and Spotify put us high up on the search because of those reviews. So a

00:30:50.200 review is a really great way to support our ministry. On that note, my name is Dale Partridge.

00:30:55.560 This is Veronica Partridge. This is Real Christianity, and we will see you guys next week.

00:31:00.520 Thanks, guys. 0.61

00:31:04.100 We'll be right back.

Dale Partridge - November 16, 2022

How to Protect Your Kids From Transgenderism - Dale and Veronica Partridge

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