00:14:39.500In other words, never measure the truth of the gospel by the percentage of people who receive it.
00:14:44.200Fourth, in the reform world, it's easy to talk about theology and sacraments and liturgy and all the deep parts of the faith and morality, but none of those things are the object of evangelism.
00:15:04.900And that is often what we get confused here.
00:15:09.520We are not converting people to the church.