Dale Partridge - February 13, 2019


Real Christianity #32: How Ordinary Christians Can Share the Extraordinary Gospel


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In this episode, we talk about how the ordinary Christian can share the extraordinary gospel with others. We talk about the church's failure to share the gospel, and how the extraordinary Christian can do the same!

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00:00:00.000 Welcome to episode number one of Real Christianity. Today, we are talking about
00:00:06.140 how ordinary Christians can share the extraordinary gospel.
00:00:10.180 Love it. So, welcome to the first episode. This is the first episode of Real Christianity,
00:00:17.280 which was Ultimate Marriage, for 30 episodes. And we just wanted to expand our genre of
00:00:26.580 conversation around the faith and family space to include more conversations around theology
00:00:33.160 and general Christian life. We are absolutely going to be talking about faith and family
00:00:38.620 and parenting and all those things as well. We are going to hit topics like Sabbath. We're going
00:00:46.400 to hit topics like head coverings. We get that. I mean, how often do you get that? A couple times
00:00:52.600 a month yeah a couple times a month we'll talk more about the church manhood womanhood pornography
00:00:58.300 these are the things that we get to talk about now because there's just more uh availability
00:01:05.240 than just talking specifically about marriage um we also have new microphones if you're watching
00:01:11.520 this on youtube you'll notice hopefully you guys can hear me a little bit better this time
00:01:16.540 or now in general yeah veronica has always struggled with just uh she wants to talk on
00:01:21.600 the mic and she gets backing up like this and then comes back in um so anyways yeah we got some new
00:01:26.080 mics we got some telefunken m82s for those nerds that want to know that but um really great
00:01:32.540 microphones we're excited about that this is a youtube video if you want to watch that it's at
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00:01:47.700 you can also listen to this on itunes and spotify and google play and stitcher and just about
00:01:53.540 anywhere else that podcasts can be listened to the last request we're going to make before we
00:01:58.020 dive into today's conversation is will you continue um actually not continue will you for
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00:02:15.060 real christianity we have over 2 000 reviews it's actually like very few podcasts have that really
00:02:21.220 yeah very few podcasts have that many reviews and all you have to do is tap the stars but if you
00:02:28.180 write something we will read it and they are very encouraging to us okay quick update from last
00:02:35.380 week's thing because we said hey we were just beat down tired um we're doing better this week
00:02:42.240 yes we had a little bit of a break um we went away to our little staycation spot about 30
00:02:48.500 minutes away from our house um at this place called brisada ranch and we were there for two
00:02:53.020 nights um and it was it was really good it was good time for us to reconnect um for us to just
00:03:00.440 be friends instead of just husband and wife um and it was fun we exercised together we went swimming
00:03:07.860 in the pool we had an indoor pool because it was like 20 degrees and snowing it was totally
00:03:11.840 like a total blizzard outside but we're swimming and it was really cool because i have this
00:03:15.900 glass garage doors so you can see the snow falling outside while you're swimming in the pool and it
00:03:21.540 was really warm we were twinning on peloton bikes yeah experiencing that and so we had we cooked
00:03:26.960 meals together we read books it was just a good time for us and we are feeling better um we are
00:03:34.060 still not at the end of our trials but we are absolutely feeling better so um okay let's get
00:03:40.480 started we're going to be talking about how the ordinary christian you and i can share the
00:03:46.100 extraordinary gospel so less than five percent of christians will share the gospel with one person
00:03:53.240 per year so it's a pretty i guess depressing stat that less than five we're not the average
00:04:01.380 christian isn't sharing the gospel that often the average christian is not sharing the gospel at all
00:04:06.920 And if they are, they're still not doing it that often.
00:04:09.760 In 2018, I'm going to read some stats here.
00:04:12.380 Barna, the Barna Group, did a study in partnership with the Seed Company, which is another research company,
00:04:18.100 and found that 51% of church-going Christians, okay, this is not just people that call themselves Christians,
00:04:25.320 but church-going Christians in the United States have never heard of the Great Commission.
00:04:31.780 Never heard of it.
00:04:33.160 More than half. 0.97
00:04:34.040 and we thought i thought okay well all right well at least we have hope with the other 49
00:04:39.740 if that's what you're thinking sadly you don't have hope there either because
00:04:44.180 half of that another 25 of that 49 they've heard of the great commission but they have no idea what
00:04:54.220 it is not like like they like i've heard that word before but i don't know what the great commission
00:05:01.100 is. That means that only 25% of the Christians in the Western church know the Great Commission,
00:05:11.400 which I would say is the mission of the church. And I hate relating the church to a business,
00:05:18.940 but I'm going to do it just for a second to get my point across. Imagine any organization
00:05:24.200 in which 75 percent three quarters of the employees or team doesn't know the mission
00:05:32.740 like what kind of result do you get from that failure failure and that's that's exactly where
00:05:40.260 we're at right now yeah before i be um not became a christian but before i entered into biblical
00:05:46.760 community um i had no idea what the great commission was i had heard of it now now that i
00:05:52.080 know what it is i had heard of it i just didn't know it was called the great commission sure um
00:05:56.580 in matthew and you'd been a christian for several years oh yeah i had been a christian i don't know
00:06:01.140 seven eight years probably um but if you don't know what the great commission is let's uh look
00:06:08.240 into scripture in matthew 28 verse 18 through 20 it says and jesus came and spoke to them saying
00:06:15.280 all authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth go therefore and make disciples of all
00:06:20.620 nations baptizing them in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit teaching
00:06:25.300 them to observe all things that i have commanded you and lo i am always i am with you always
00:06:30.960 even to the end of the age amen so this is a really important passage of scripture
00:06:37.340 we need to memorize this passage is the great commission this is the great commission go
00:06:43.340 therefore and make disciples of all nations baptizing them in the name of the father the
00:06:48.820 son of the holy spirit teaching them to obey that i think this is the esv that i pulled from
00:06:53.220 it says observe all that i commanded you well that's a lot that's a lot of work to do and so
00:06:59.940 this is a really important passage this is jesus's last statement before he ascends into heaven it's
00:07:08.020 the very end of the book of matthew and it's the last instruction that he gives the apostles
00:07:14.160 it's written down it's the church's mission i'm not going to necessarily say that it's every
00:07:19.660 individual person's mission we are a part of the church and it's the church's mission
00:07:23.660 so we have to partake in that journey together um now on sunday it's pretty easy to think that
00:07:31.000 well man all the great numbers of baptisms and the decisions for christ i know the church that
00:07:37.580 we used to go to had like totals remember that yeah and then on your what is it called
00:07:43.220 a planner not planner program every week they would have the number of baptisms that year
00:07:50.240 people who have given their lives to christ um you know starting from the beginning of the year
00:07:56.120 or the month yeah and you know we actually have two things working against us though
00:08:00.820 while those numbers are exciting to see and you're seeing people come to the lord
00:08:04.480 right now in the west and even in europe too this is actually a problem that's also happening
00:08:11.000 in Europe. I think it's actually worse in Europe. But in the West, we have two things working
00:08:16.160 against us. First is that more people are leaving than coming. So for the first time
00:08:22.920 in American history, more people are leaving the church than coming. We are paying attention. Our
00:08:28.840 eyes are looked at the door, the entry door. Look at all these people coming. The problem is,
00:08:34.580 is we have not shifted our eyes to the back door where people are leaving. And for a variety of
00:08:40.880 reasons but people are leaving the church more than they're coming to the church at this point
00:08:45.960 and it's important to know that because the big mega churches in america will never let you think
00:08:51.160 that you know they're they're in the business of making sure that it's all about the good stuff
00:08:56.180 and that's i'm not going to say that's all bad but we do have to face reality that we have a problem
00:09:01.960 in the church we are actually diminishing in 2015 this is four years ago almost now
00:09:08.080 uh we saw that there was there wasn't one county in the census there wasn't one county across
00:09:15.560 america i don't know how many counties there are but there's a lot there wasn't one county in which
00:09:21.280 christian population increased that's so sad we're literally decreasing across the country
00:09:28.240 it is absolutely happening and it's at a 1.5 percent decrease in total american christian
00:09:34.800 population per year over the past 10 years. So I'm going to explain that, break that down. I know
00:09:40.700 this is boring for some people that are like, don't like stats, but just bear with me here.
00:09:45.700 That's a loss of 4.8 million identified Christians per year. I kind of like how to calculate these
00:09:52.360 numbers here. So you're not going to, I don't have a reference to these, but I've put a bunch
00:09:55.100 of numbers together. We're losing 4.8 million, probably more now because the culture has become
00:10:00.640 more hostile 4.8 million identified Christians per year every year for 10 years in a row so far
00:10:07.720 and so we got a problem and I don't know what do you think's happening well I think at least for me 0.53
00:10:17.040 in my history I think um I was kind of trained in the institutional church to just be inviting
00:10:24.700 people to church and let the pastor do the ministering let the pastor do preaching the
00:10:29.180 gospel instead of me myself uh and are preaching the gospel to them and discipling them and inviting
00:10:35.320 them to church yes and then inviting them to it's like this we've been trained to outsource our
00:10:39.880 spiritual responsibility of the great commission to do it let the professionals do it yeah let the
00:10:44.300 pastor do it they they're the ones with the seminary our friends um who live on our property
00:10:50.300 they they um were at a church um a couple churches down in san diego and one of the churches down
00:10:56.500 there, I don't know which church it was, is several weeks before Easter, offered $10 gift
00:11:03.400 cards, Starbucks gift cards, to anybody who wanted to invite someone to coffee to invite
00:11:10.280 them to the Easter service. Now, again, we look at that and we go, oh, well, that's a
00:11:15.420 good thing. Well, the reality is it's not that they should have said, hey, here's $10
00:11:20.080 gift cards to go invite people to coffee to share the gospel with them. Instead, they
00:11:26.480 said, no, invite them just to invite them to church. And we'll do it for you. And we'll do
00:11:30.720 it for you. It's this training of that you're not equipped and qualified. We are. You just get
00:11:37.100 people here and we'll do the rest. And that is not the biblical narrative that Jesus calls us to
00:11:42.420 here. Yeah. Another thing for me is I didn't know how to show the gospel. I didn't understand the
00:11:48.960 whole gospel narrative uh well enough to explain it to others it's and it's hard it's it i mean
00:11:56.460 you have the three sentence gospel and you have the 300 page gospel and so it is something that
00:12:02.900 the longer you're in the church and the more you've read the scriptures you get to understand
00:12:08.000 that but it is it is hard yeah and another thing for me i was i was biblically illiterate and didn't
00:12:12.840 know what the scriptures i didn't even know the scriptures well enough to teach them to somebody
00:12:17.240 else um and then i was intimidated by the amount of questions and responses that i would get if i
00:12:25.140 shared my faith yeah i want to stop you here for a second because i just i didn't write this in our
00:12:29.860 notes but i just realized that we got to remember that when jesus gave this great commission
00:12:33.680 he just said this to his disciples who had been with him for three years
00:12:39.840 and so there was some extensive training you know we also see in luke he sends out the 72
00:12:47.040 he sends out the 12 he gives them practice and training and so the idea is if you're a new
00:12:53.860 believer you shouldn't be expected i don't think you're expected to be able to immediately replicate
00:13:00.060 and share the gospel maybe you can share what you do understand for sure but we we got to remember
00:13:06.340 that, that there was training that occurred before you were sent out. Yeah. And if you're, um, if
00:13:12.400 you're, you know, can relate to my history and my story with, um, my insecurities of sharing the
00:13:17.380 gospel and you're a young mom or a babysitter or you're around children, you get to practice that
00:13:23.800 every day with your children. Yes. You, you share the gospel with them. You live it out, you walk
00:13:29.740 it out and you're discipling your children. And if you're, when you're doing that and you're living
00:13:35.080 that out your children are actually also learning how to do that yeah and this is a really good
00:13:40.320 thing because mothers and so yeah you get a lot of practice fathers mothers you guys get to share
00:13:45.880 the gospel with your children with your nieces and nephews and we we try to practice this all
00:13:51.380 the time like we'll even share like you know adam and eve they broke god's laws and now they're
00:13:57.900 separated from god like we we share pieces of that and what you know we're under god's wrath
00:14:03.180 what does that mean you know like I've asked the kids these questions yeah it's usually a little
00:14:07.320 bit of a bedtime kind of conversation that we'll have with them yeah and do it you know three thousand
00:14:13.340 times you know it's so casual in our house now it's just what we do share the gospel with your
00:14:19.060 kids and it actually it's very much practice well and it's so amazing how much your children retain
00:14:25.780 you don't even realize our daughter just turned five last month and I go to put her to bed last
00:14:32.480 night and she has an audio bible that she listens to i mean it's just the book of genesis but
00:14:37.680 she's like mom this is abram and and god changed his name to abraham and this was in that sarai
00:14:43.820 that was his wife and god changed her name to sarai and they had a uh um a servant a servant
00:14:49.140 named hagar and it's just so cute how much she's just remembering all of this stuff and she does
00:14:54.320 the same thing with things that we teach her um yeah yeah so don't don't make this an outward
00:14:59.560 message only outside of the home this is absolutely an inward message um to that and and so um
00:15:08.620 yeah you said something a second ago that i want to make sure that we don't um pass over
00:15:14.000 just that i was intimidated yeah you're intimidated about just the responses
00:15:18.460 that you know some of these harder questions yeah we live in such an intellectual world
00:15:24.200 now and more people want answers on like evolution versus creation or sexuality or love pain when
00:15:32.140 life begins all the things yeah yeah these are these are harder you know we're intimidated if
00:15:38.900 we go share the gospel and then this conversation comes up i don't have an answer for that so i
00:15:41.980 don't want to go share the gospel um you know satan has done a really good job at aligning
00:15:48.300 political and social unpopularity with the beliefs of the christian faith so meaning that
00:15:55.340 right now christianity is in the political world biblical sexuality biblical perspective on life
00:16:02.960 creationism like these are unpopular ideas in the culture today we were just watching a netflix
00:16:10.220 documentary called the paleo way and we're just watching about just trying to eat healthier right
00:16:15.580 and it's just this constant undertone of evolution undertone of evolution and i mean i guess like
00:16:22.640 they show it in the in their intro yeah exactly and so turning into man but yeah and so you need
00:16:28.440 to be able to defend these basic things and you need to be able to field them with logic and
00:16:34.420 intellect in order to bring people along into this journey and that's an important part that again i
00:16:39.160 think we've lost in the church which we'll talk about here in a little bit later in the show
00:16:43.220 um sadly my experience with the gospel and why we're not sharing it um we've actually adopted
00:16:50.080 because it's it's a kind of a permission as an out for the church it's saint francis of assisi's
00:16:56.000 famous quote you've heard it all the time before preach the gospel at all times when necessary use
00:17:01.940 words um while i hear the heart of the message it's like don't just preach the gospel with words
00:17:08.420 make sure you're living it out people should recognize the gospel in you and then you can
00:17:13.880 use words i get the heart of it but it's it's kind of given a license for us to not verbally
00:17:19.960 share the gospel and romans 10 17 is an important scripture it says so then faith comes by hearing
00:17:27.720 and hearing by the word of god in other words the great commission is not the great suggestion
00:17:35.240 It's not like, I just need to behave Christian,
00:17:37.900 and then all of a sudden I'm sharing the gospel.
00:17:39.400 That's not what happens.
00:17:40.800 That's not what Jesus said, go therefore.
00:17:44.240 And he's making disciples and teaching them.
00:17:48.140 Which means you need to equip yourself.
00:17:49.840 Yeah, teaching them to obey all that I commanded you.
00:17:52.880 You got a life-filled mission and purpose in the Great Commission.
00:17:59.600 Lots to teach there.
00:18:01.480 So, yeah.
00:18:02.600 I think the big question that Christians want to know is how do I best share the gospel yeah
00:18:10.540 and this is there's so many people that are gifted evangelists and I don't want to make sure that
00:18:16.180 there's not a one-size-fits-all yeah and also there are people that are evangelists like they
00:18:23.620 are gifted at evangelism and then there are some people who are teachers and some people who are
00:18:29.700 pastoral or prophetic or whatever that might be we're all called to the to share the gospel
00:18:36.080 in some capacity even if we don't have the gift of evangelism we've met people that are like
00:18:41.300 total evangelists and they're just epic at it no fear total walking up like we'll share the gospel
00:18:49.920 you know 10 20 times a day really gifted yeah i mean we were at dinner one time with a friend
00:18:55.620 who was in town and he just asked our, uh, our server right then and there. Yep. Boom. Yeah.
00:19:00.660 Do you, yeah. About, about Jesus. And it's, and those people are, if you're not that person,
00:19:06.200 that's okay. You still have a role to play though in the body. Um, and so again, I think, I think,
00:19:14.620 um, how do I best share the gospel? I want to start with again, Christians don't share the 1.00
00:19:19.940 gospel either because they don't know it so that's one thing um they don't believe it 0.71
00:19:25.380 which is a serious dilemma meaning that they actually like don't don't really believe it
00:19:32.280 like they're still not their faith actually isn't solid so yeah then i wouldn't say that they're
00:19:36.300 christian yeah they call themselves christians but but they actually don't necessarily believe
00:19:40.580 that maybe they've heard a wrong gospel and they're actually haven't been set free from their
00:19:43.980 sin they're not seeing the fruits of it in their own life whatever it is um or they're afraid of
00:19:48.900 the response that they'll receive which i think is probably the biggest oh yeah especially in
00:19:53.340 today's culture yeah they're afraid of the response um romans 116 again i love that he
00:19:59.520 opens up the book remember rome is harsh territory uh to share the gospel at this time
00:20:05.400 and paul writes for i am not ashamed of the gospel of christ for it is the power of god
00:20:12.640 to salvation for everyone who believes and so we just blanket that whole thing with that
00:20:19.660 scripture right there in your heart is that i'm not ashamed of the gospel if you deny me before
00:20:23.980 men i'll deny you before the father like we we are not to be ashamed of the gospel as christians
00:20:28.580 we got to figure out what is it that's stopping us or preventing us from the gospel so what is it
00:20:34.760 what is the gospel yeah this is and i think this is just what people need to know what is the
00:20:38.920 gospel like how do you break it down as i said earlier you could have the three line version
00:20:42.100 you can have the 300 page version yeah that's why i had said earlier you know there's if there's not
00:20:48.140 a one-size-fits-fits-all approach yeah and the more you know about it the better you get at
00:20:54.900 sharing it and i think we're seeing this in our lives um we're more equipped to answer those
00:21:00.240 questions to share the deeper narrative when people come um and so what is the gospel well
00:21:06.260 it's good news um and it can't be good news if there isn't bad news and so i'm gonna ask veronica
00:21:15.300 what's the bad news that before receiving christ we're sinners and we have broken god's laws
00:21:23.180 this is key i mean so this is we can't have good news which the gospel is the good news
00:21:28.920 if there's no bad if there's no bad news and there's bad news meaning that you can't heal
00:21:34.020 people of cancer if they're not willing to admit that they have cancer that they're sick and
00:21:41.280 this is actually an easy way to do this in people's lives is the guilt and shame that
00:21:50.140 everybody feels and how do i know that that's true well bernie brown's book daring greatly
00:21:57.220 is about shame and it's like sold millions of copies because people are looking for ways to
00:22:02.940 deal with their guilt and shame in other words we have something to be guilty and shameful for
00:22:08.840 we're lacking someone to be guilty and shameful to and we we want to be forgiven and so
00:22:17.420 the word secular uh it actually means um to desacralize it means to actually remove the shame 0.98
00:22:29.340 and so that's why oh go kill your baby don't feel bad about it oh go look at pornography don't feel 0.99
00:22:36.440 bad about it oh go explore this sexuality and don't feel bad about it oh go get drunk and don't 1.00
00:22:41.920 feel bad about it secularization is the removal of shame so it's very obvious in a culture that
00:22:47.980 we are guilty we are shameful and and that's a good starting point to make aware to people that
00:22:57.780 you know that shame you feel it's because you've broken God's laws he put it in our conscience
00:23:02.960 that we go that doesn't feel good yeah another point for what is the bad news is we've been
00:23:11.500 separated from God and in order from for God to remain just we deserve to be punished yeah so
00:23:18.400 this is another part of this God is all loving God is all truthful and God is all just yeah so
00:23:25.660 in other words outside of christ we are under god's wrath but instead of inflicting his wrath
00:23:30.760 upon us he sends his son jesus and inflicts the punishment onto him okay this is again this is
00:23:36.460 the basic narrative right here god can't not punish us because then he wouldn't be just
00:23:41.920 and so he comes up with this like rescue plan and he sends his son jesus god incarnate in the flesh
00:23:52.260 and inflicts the wrath you know the word of propitiation that we see in first john that
00:23:58.820 word propitiation says that jesus christ is the propitiation for our sins in the whole world
00:24:03.420 it means to appease the wrath of god through blood sacrifice and so instead of inflicting
00:24:11.780 the wrath on us who deserve it he inflicts the wrath on his son who doesn't deserve it
00:24:18.960 Jesus and that's grace yeah that's grace that that is at the core what we say about grace
00:24:26.580 that that's what that's what grace is we don't get what we deserve and he he gets what he doesn't
00:24:32.120 deserve it's pretty crazy and it's actually summed up nicely in John 3 16 for God so loved the world
00:24:38.680 that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have
00:24:43.240 everlasting life or have eternal life that's what it's talking about and so you have this issue you
00:24:51.380 got the problem we're under the wrath of god we've broken the laws in order for god to be just he has
00:24:57.760 to bring consequences he doesn't give them to us he gives them to jesus and how do we escape this
00:25:02.420 wrath because the sacrifice has been appeased well it's simple it's really simple it's in romans 10
00:25:07.660 nine if you confess with your mouth that jesus is lord and you believe in your heart that god
00:25:14.160 has raised him from the dead you will be saved simple two parts make jesus lord in your life
00:25:21.320 and believe that god raised that i believe and have faith in him and and this is you know if you
00:25:30.500 want to be out from under god's wrath that that's all you have to do it's super simple yeah you were
00:25:35.480 saved by grace alone through faith alone in christ alone yes that's the gospel that's the
00:25:41.420 gospel and you're gonna have to practice your narrative how you do that there's so many articles
00:25:48.600 and videos on how to do the gospel so the next big question is how do you share the gospel yeah
00:25:58.360 so this is the how um so i'm going to take this section and then veronica is going to kind of
00:26:04.960 close up with some points here in a minute um and we can tell some stories too even in this section
00:26:10.660 about what we've walked through yeah so we're going to read first peter chapter 3 verse 15 it's
00:26:15.380 an important verse it says but sanctify the lord god in your hearts and always be ready
00:26:23.420 to give a defense that word defense means apologia in the greek it's the word that we get our our
00:26:28.840 term apologetics from. And it says, always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you
00:26:36.520 a reason for the hope that is in you with meekness and in fear. So it's a command Peter's writing
00:26:45.720 to these new Christians. First off, always be ready. So people, you got to be ready. 1.00
00:26:54.760 and what this first chapter one and chapter two of first peter is all about personal holiness
00:27:01.180 and being different and looking different and you're so different that people notice how holy
00:27:06.500 you are and they ask you why are you so hopeful and so different there's something different
00:27:12.760 about you yeah and if people aren't asking you questions then you might have a problem
00:27:18.080 and it says always be ready to give a defense
00:27:23.300 that word also is answer in the English
00:27:25.720 but a defense
00:27:26.720 like you got to be able to explain yourself
00:27:30.160 you've thought about this
00:27:31.500 you've been preparing for this
00:27:33.540 to everyone
00:27:35.060 not just to some people that are convenient
00:27:37.080 it's the scriptures later says in season and out of season
00:27:40.120 whether you're ready for it or you're not
00:27:42.100 you be ready
00:27:43.600 you take the time
00:27:45.180 so you don't drop the ball
00:27:47.100 when an opportunity in this,
00:27:48.180 the Holy Spirit brings a moment.
00:27:51.080 I've actually, in my own walk,
00:27:54.240 and I've said this to you, babe,
00:27:56.620 it took me being so mad
00:27:59.900 that I didn't have the answers.
00:28:02.720 I was tired of not having the answers
00:28:04.920 to get serious about reading the scriptures.
00:28:07.980 The Lord kept softballing me some opportunities
00:28:10.600 and I just didn't have the answers.
00:28:13.780 People would ask me questions
00:28:14.780 and I would go, I just don't know.
00:28:16.760 And it's not because I just haven't had enough time.
00:28:19.760 It's because I haven't prioritized the word of God.
00:28:24.600 And it says to do so in meekness and in fear.
00:28:27.000 You got to do this in a gentle spirit and reverence, like to the Lord.
00:28:32.900 You're not here to go sell anybody into the gospel.
00:28:37.760 So a couple of things I want to mention.
00:28:40.640 First off, how we share the gospel.
00:28:42.520 you need to determine if this is an honest or dishonest skeptic.
00:28:48.240 Is someone really interested in hearing the gospel?
00:28:51.420 Or are you just out sharing the gospel with anybody who has a pulse?
00:28:56.500 Because, you know, Jesus says, don't cast your pearls before swine.
00:29:02.460 And we've definitely seen people out on the street,
00:29:07.120 street preaching, sharing the gospel,
00:29:08.660 or talking to people arguing with people getting heated with people these people are there if
00:29:15.760 identify if they're honest if they're really curious or if they just want to scoff at your
00:29:21.100 faith or have an argument yeah just get angry with you because satan is all about that and
00:29:27.500 he'll throw someone that knows the word better than you to go destroy your argument and i've
00:29:32.780 seen that happen too. As you see the apostles or even Jesus share the gospel, they only do that
00:29:41.240 blanket gospel, like kind of a blanketed gospel when they're talking to crowds. That's just what
00:29:48.280 you see. When they're one-on-one, they speak directly to the person's incorrect thinking.
00:29:56.400 Jesus will, when someone asks a question, he responds to the question, you know, hey, good
00:30:00.900 teacher. And he goes, why do you call me good? Um, what do I need to do to, to, to inherit eternal
00:30:07.480 life? Like you think that he literally says, good teacher, what do I need to do to inherit eternal
00:30:13.180 life? And Jesus, instead of seizing the deal, like, Oh, you asked, I would love to tell you.
00:30:19.920 He asked them, he returns the question. Why do you say that I'm good? There's only one good,
00:30:25.200 but there's only one good and it's gone. Like it's a different approach than we take. And, um,
00:30:30.900 In other words, they lovingly and logically challenge the worldview held by that person first before delivering the gospel.
00:30:45.000 And I want to explain what this is.
00:30:46.460 What we're going to be talking about right here is apologetics that kind of undergird evangelism.
00:30:51.300 And the word apologetics really means pre-evangelistic truth.
00:30:56.860 And so it's kind of the work that happens prior to sharing the gospel.
00:31:02.680 And we forget as ministers of the gospel and as Christians,
00:31:05.660 because again, I don't think that the church has done a great job
00:31:07.500 of teaching this in the modern era,
00:31:08.760 but it's absolutely taught in church past.
00:31:12.580 We forget that we often have to help people disbelieve something first
00:31:16.860 before they can believe the gospel, something new.
00:31:21.100 We actually have to have a disbelief.
00:31:22.700 evangelism must include the discipline
00:31:24.460 of helping people subtract.
00:31:27.420 And I want you to just sit on that for a second.
00:31:29.780 People don't generally give up their beliefs,
00:31:32.660 their whole belief worldview,
00:31:34.300 like off the cuff, like, oh yeah,
00:31:36.740 I'm just gonna just switch my worldview
00:31:38.040 for your worldview.
00:31:39.400 That doesn't happen. 1.00
00:31:41.560 And so when you talk to a Muslim about Jesus, 1.00
00:31:45.840 it's generally, in my experience,
00:31:47.580 and there's a book called Seeking Allah,
00:31:49.100 Finding Jesus by Nabeel Qureshi.
00:31:50.980 he talks about it's a conversation there's the guy his friend David needed to help him
00:31:56.620 deconstruct what he currently believed and show him what that it's wrong before he could
00:32:01.920 reconstruct the gospel of Jesus Christ on them he needed to help him disbelieve something else
00:32:09.240 first before he helped him believe the gospel second and that is you know so if people have
00:32:15.300 They're white-knuckling evolution.
00:32:18.600 The gospel is going to be really hard because it requires you to let go of that.
00:32:23.720 So what you do instead is you chip away at that evolution element.
00:32:28.240 You chip away at their naturalism.
00:32:29.720 If they're struggling with the view of biblical sexuality, you need to go deep and chip away at that.
00:32:36.900 And this is, again, the act of apologetics.
00:32:40.080 It doesn't take place of evangelism.
00:32:42.840 It's just the pre-evangelistic work.
00:32:45.300 Um, you know, I often, um, ask people, you know, once a relationship has been established,
00:32:51.680 I ask questions like, uh, what do you think happens after we die?
00:32:55.920 You know, this is a good relationship question.
00:32:58.500 Um, what do you guys think the meaning of life is?
00:33:00.360 Like prompting these harder, deeper questions.
00:33:03.340 If you're trained on how to get the proper answer, uh, why do you think you were born?
00:33:07.840 You know, what, how do you define right and wrong?
00:33:09.760 Like, these are huge questions that everybody has an answer for.
00:33:15.300 And you'll realize how insane some of these answers are when they give them to you.
00:33:18.720 They've just kind of manufactured this like their own.
00:33:23.400 Or they make them up on the spot.
00:33:24.860 Yeah, they make them up on the spot.
00:33:26.080 And it does take practice.
00:33:27.220 So all this stuff takes practice.
00:33:28.620 Don't get overwhelmed with this.
00:33:29.600 It takes practice.
00:33:30.340 I just want you guys to know that we should be training for this.
00:33:34.480 And sadly, the church at large hasn't done the greatest job at this.
00:33:39.220 And again, why do this?
00:33:40.700 Why help people disbelieve?
00:33:43.140 Jesus Christ is a foundations shatterer.
00:33:47.200 He shatters the foundations and rebuilds them back upon himself.
00:33:52.460 And he does this actually all the time.
00:33:54.900 Look at the rich young ruler.
00:33:56.200 Sell everything and give it to the poor.
00:33:58.600 Pick up your cross and follow me. 0.99
00:33:59.780 Boom, foundation just shattered. 0.63
00:34:02.480 Wait, what?
00:34:03.140 Sell everything I have?
00:34:05.220 Like let go of everything and make you priority?
00:34:08.860 Like get rid of everything.
00:34:10.760 You see Paul doing this in Galatians.
00:34:14.020 He says, telling the Galatians,
00:34:15.840 what purpose does the law offer if it cannot save? 1.00
00:34:19.260 He's taking the Jews that are like, 0.98
00:34:20.900 their whole foundation is on the law, 1.00
00:34:22.520 and he just like rips it out from under them.
00:34:24.840 He challenges that.
00:34:27.000 Paul is persuading the Greeks in the book of Acts 0.71
00:34:29.960 that Diana is an object made by human hands. 0.54
00:34:33.200 Like he's just ripping out the fact that you made that thing. 0.88
00:34:38.480 You carved that with your own image,
00:34:39.640 and you're now worshiping it.
00:34:41.960 So we have to, through patient relationship,
00:34:45.700 challenge people's views
00:34:47.300 and find out where the crux is at.
00:34:50.740 And we rarely see blind preaching of the gospel.
00:34:54.840 We actually see, in the scriptures,
00:34:56.280 we actually see ministers asking questions
00:34:58.960 and deconstructing through relationship.
00:35:00.760 That's how we do it.
00:35:03.040 That's how I do it, at least.
00:35:05.080 Yeah, and so I just want to be clear
00:35:08.100 after dale shared what he shared is that looking for opportunities to share the gospel isn't bad
00:35:12.680 but more importantly to be looking for relationships with people um so go love on people the lord in
00:35:21.160 his timing will give you the opportunity to ask and share the gospel yeah questions share the
00:35:27.280 gospel yeah this is good and just we did this every time i go get my hair cut i'm always trying
00:35:36.960 to share the gospel with the girls that cut my hair and we we one lady was ready to have dinner
00:35:41.940 with us with her and her boyfriend yeah but we just they canceled on us but um we also why don't
00:35:48.220 we share steven's story you know um yeah we had a couple over for dinner um and we've known them
00:35:55.480 through mutual friends they came over for dinner and you had taken him upstairs and preached the
00:36:03.600 gospel to him spoke with him and you we had met them several times before but it's our first time
00:36:07.820 like having dinner with them um you preached the gospel to him he respectfully declined um and he
00:36:14.160 struggled with the sexuality component of like you know homosexuality and how do i deal with that
00:36:19.040 and here's my views yeah and he respectfully declined and we continued the evening and it was
00:36:25.360 fine and you know went on our way and then i don't know a few months later um he was talking to
00:36:33.280 somebody else who was a believer and you know planted another seed and spoke to somebody else
00:36:37.960 who's a believer and eventually gave his life to christ and has been baptized and is now believer
00:36:44.820 and now yeah tends to yeah he comes to the bible study that you've been teaching and then you're
00:36:52.260 actually marrying him and his fiance here pretty soon crazy right and once the person that shared
00:36:57.500 the gospel in which he accepted the lord said do you need a bible he says oh no dale already gave
00:37:01.560 one and so it's just we got to remember that journey and uh i know veronica will share a
00:37:09.080 verse about that here a little bit uh yeah first corinthians 3 5 through 8 says who then is paul
00:37:16.020 and who is apollos but ministers through whom i believe through whom you believed as the lord gave
00:37:22.320 to each one sorry i need to start that over again yeah that's fine okay sorry jackson
00:37:29.060 um yeah first corinthians 3 5 through 8 says who then is paul and who is apollos but ministers
00:37:37.960 through whom you believed as the lord gave to each one i planted apollos watered but god gave
00:37:44.080 the increase so then neither he who plants is anything nor he who waters but god who gives
00:37:50.220 the increase now he who plants and he who waters are one but each one will receive his own reward
00:37:57.100 according to his own labor yeah so this is showing like you know i was one guy that planted someone
00:38:03.680 else watered it someone else did some other watering and nurturing but god brought the increase
00:38:10.180 and that's just how we have to be remembering the gospel like that process yeah so the core message
00:38:19.080 of what we want to leave you with is that jesus has work for us to do um so in the meantime we
00:38:26.360 should be training and preparing and practicing studying so that we can be ready to give a
00:38:31.700 defense for our faith when the opportunity presents itself yeah and this is this is the
00:38:36.760 message that we want you guys to walk away with is that do we all need to become evangelists in
00:38:42.240 terms of just that evangelistic gifting no i'm just saying is that man if you're not sharing
00:38:46.180 the gospel with anybody per year is it because the lord literally hasn't offered you an opportunity
00:38:52.160 is it because there isn't anybody to share it with no it's because we haven't prioritized that
00:38:59.160 or we don't believe that one that a metaphor i use is that i go we're walking around in a world
00:39:08.440 that is starving and we have food and when you start remembering or that is sick and we have
00:39:15.880 medicine however you want to put it you gotta just have jesus's heart and go back to the scriptures
00:39:22.520 and go lord give me a heart that i might see what you see and give me opportunities give me the
00:39:29.480 words help me understand who you are in your gospel so that i can share and so hopefully this
00:39:35.300 was helpful and edifying for you guys um our next episode we're gonna tackle head coverings
00:39:43.640 dun dun dun lots it's actually becoming a more popular conversation um i think more and more
00:39:50.160 women are asking about it um and i think it's an important i even get husbands that write me about
00:39:55.960 it um so i think we're going to give just our take on it and the biblical perspective on it um
00:40:01.680 and even the church's historical perspective on it and then we will uh hopefully help you guys
00:40:08.360 have an understanding of that we're also going to shift from memory verses to really thought
00:40:15.620 provoking ideas quotes commentary something at the end of every episode that's just going to go
00:40:22.360 oh that was good because sometimes I see like a Charles Spurgeon quote that I'm like oh wow that's
00:40:27.220 so good or something from John Gill or something from you know even a modern pastor Paul Washer
00:40:33.420 maybe and i want to share it and i think it's important however today it just happens to be a
00:40:39.700 scripture again and it's the great commission and we want to challenge you to memorize that
00:40:45.480 it's something that we should memorize and i'll let veronica read it matthew 18 or sorry matthew
00:40:51.020 28 18 through 20 and jesus came and spoke to them saying all authority has been given to me in heaven
00:40:57.720 and on earth go therefore and make disciples of all nations baptizing them in the name of the
00:41:02.500 father and of the son and the holy spirit teaching them to observe all things that i have commanded
00:41:07.260 you and lo i am with you always even to the end of the age amen so memorize the great commission
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