00:00:00.000Welcome to Real Christianity. Today we are talking about Bible translations. Yeah. Is the Bible translation that you read accurate and reliable?
00:00:10.680This is a common question we get, and I think it's a really important question. This is actually Veronica's show idea. She's like, man, we get this all the time.
00:00:20.880yeah especially like after our last podcast on head coverings had a lot of people reaching out
00:00:27.100asking questions about that and then um several people asking uh what versions of the bible i read
00:00:33.260or what translation do i think is best because their translation they're reading that passage
00:00:38.820out of just seemed a little bit different and yeah i was like we really i think we really should
00:00:43.160do a podcast episode on it so here we are yeah and so uh veronica and i we read the new king
00:00:48.740James Version. We'll explain why. We also read ESV. But there's going to be a huge backstory
00:00:55.600that, to be honest, we both never knew about a couple years ago. So we're excited to share
00:01:01.320that journey with you. I think this is a really important episode for anybody who's serious
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00:02:30.620going to start. Yeah. So for years before, I guess you and I, I would say, got way more serious about
00:02:40.080our faith we just kind of read whatever bible translation we liked best um i believe you had
00:02:45.900an niv and i had an nlt it was gifted to me um but you even have uh the message bible i did i
00:02:52.260remember and we technically still have it but we just don't use it um but we really thought that
00:02:58.580all bible translations were essentially the same um but then we realized you know several years
00:03:04.740into our journey that that's actually not the case so we need to remember the remember the
00:03:11.240only difference between a christian bible and the jehovah's witness bible is the translation
00:03:15.400yeah they have a translation called the new world translation and people see that all the time like
00:03:19.460oh that's another translation i want to check that out no that is that is the translation of a
00:03:24.400another false religion but the only difference between them is just the translation practice
00:03:30.560so chuck smith once said ever since the garden of eden satan has been attacking the word of god
00:03:36.780sometimes directly sometimes very subtly and the garden of eden it was a rather subtle attack all
00:03:42.420he did was misquote god leaving out a few words he's always been taking away or adding to the
00:03:48.300revelation in order to slightly change its meaning another quote um i'll share with you guys by aw
00:03:54.640Tozer is, we must not select a few favorite passages to the exclusion of others. Nothing
00:04:01.040less than a whole Bible can make a whole Christian. Yeah. So I want to just kind of go off that quote0.91
00:04:07.480is that the question we have to ask ourselves is, well, what is a whole Bible? You know,
00:04:13.560because if Tozer is saying we must not select a few favorite passages and exclude the others,
00:04:18.600nothing less than the whole Bible can make a whole Christian. Then what is a whole Bible?
00:04:25.500And that's an important question to ask because we just assume that, man, the Bible that I bought at the store is actually the whole Bible.
00:04:34.460And you're going to learn today that that's not all Bible translations are created equally.
00:04:39.340And so today we have pastors teaching small pieces, like just portions of scripture.
00:04:46.900They're not doing the whole word of God.
00:04:52.360And throwing in like one or two scriptures here and there.
00:04:54.180Yeah, small series of pieces of the Bible out of translations that aren't really accurate to the original text.
00:05:02.820And so, again, if we're doing the whole Bible to create the whole Christian, man, there's a lot of pastors out there that aren't really doing that.
00:05:09.820I've seen several popular Sunday morning pastors podcasts that you guys all know their names.
00:08:23.080And the Septuagint is the Old Testament written in Greek.
00:08:28.040And actually, many of the New Testament writers probably read the Septuagint.
00:08:34.520And so that's something that's important.
00:08:36.240It's the Old Testament translated from Hebrew into Greek.
00:08:39.400Then there's another translation of a book called the Latin Vulgate, and the Latin Vulgate is the Old Testament, New Testament translated into Latin, which actually became the main translation that the Catholic Church used for many, many centuries, all the way up, and it actually formalized it around the 16th century.
00:09:03.620So, I want to talk about the years from about 400 AD to about 1380.
00:09:09.860And I'm going to give you just a quick overview real quick.
00:09:12.700Because everything was copied by hand by scribes prior to the Bible really having the printing press,
00:09:22.960to have a canonized Bible like Genesis to Revelation was incredibly rare.
00:09:29.160imagine copying you know it's it's in the english it's around 750 000 words so it's just a regular
00:09:39.000book is about 50 000 words so you're talking this is a huge piece of literature and so it's very
00:09:44.480rare they were incredibly expensive so the roman catholic church in 1350 only read from the latin
00:09:53.160bible but the people didn't speak latin they were the the clergy actually created this divide with
00:10:02.580the laity which is the the congregation it's called the clergy laity divide and this was
00:10:07.540actually a problem this is actually the cause in the beginning of the reformation and that that
00:10:14.160the clergy was preaching out of this bible it would be like us going english-speaking people
00:10:19.180going and listening to a German Bible.
00:10:20.740It's like, it does no good for us.0.99
00:12:21.280He was Catholic, and he really pushed us back in the Protestant movement.
00:12:25.740King Henry VIII was Protestant and really kind of let that thing go forward.
00:12:30.360Then you had Queen Mary, which is also known as Bloody Mary.
00:12:33.880That's where we get the name of the drink, right?0.77
00:12:35.780And why she was called Bloody Mary is because she killed Protestants for the Reformation.
00:12:41.980King James then came, and this was the beginning of the King James Bible.
00:12:47.7001611, the King James Bible, which is called the Authorized Version, came around at 1611.
00:12:54.380So we've had the King James Version for hundreds of years.
00:12:57.360Now, everybody was desperate for a copy of the Bible.
00:13:02.340but now everyone has one and nobody reads it it collects dust it collects dust yeah then
00:13:10.840translation was about access now translation is about comfort readability and profit
00:13:18.100and so this is important stuff guys yeah dell and i believe that it's really important that you
00:13:25.580know how the book that you base your life upon is translated yeah if you call yourself a christian
00:13:31.580that is what you base your life upon upon yeah you should want to know this stuff yeah because
00:13:35.820the bible is not an english book it's a hebrew and a greek book um so over the last 20 years
00:13:43.220there have been over a hundred new bible translations released and what does that do
00:13:47.940to people what does that cause them to do yeah it makes people doubt it makes them question the
00:13:52.740reliability of the bible yeah and um if every year there's a new translation then apparently
00:13:58.780the previous one must have not been good enough or must have not been accurate um and the previous
00:14:05.020ones were inadequate um so what reason is there to believe that any future translations will be
00:14:12.200better yeah we've we finally you know every year there's multiple ones that are coming out which
00:14:16.380again it makes every all the other ones seem obsolete did you not translate it correctly and
00:14:20.880they all claim if you actually read the front page of their translation they all claim to be
00:14:25.500the most accurate version you know and it's like well was the one that i just read not accurate
00:14:30.500well do you want to talk just quick note on um copyright laws oh yeah so in order to come out
00:14:35.920with a new yeah and in the united states the copyright laws mean that you have to actually
00:14:40.180have your works have to be 10 different from each other and so these bibles are really 10
00:14:46.100different they're all 10 different from each other imagine if we had different constitutions
00:14:51.540of america that were 10 different the mess that we would have and so the only non-copyrighted
00:15:02.000public domain version of the bible is the king james version and again we read the new king
00:15:08.260james esv we have king james but we'll explain this in more detail here in a second originally
00:15:15.300accuracy of translation took precedence over literary style so the accuracy was was like the
00:15:24.260core that took precedence over literary style but now we live in this super narcissistic
00:15:32.200entitled generation that elevates the reader above the author and caters to the experience
00:15:39.920of the reader instead of the authenticity of the text you don't want to hurt anyone's feelings
00:15:44.180Yeah. And I want to make, I want to, it's all about you. Like it's all about the reader. How does, you know, and we even have this, this, this question that comes out all the time in Bible studies. What does this text mean to you? I don't care what it means to me. I want one meaning. There's only one meaning in the author. And what's the author intended meaning? It doesn't matter what it means to me. And this, again, it's the centralized idea that it's about the reader instead of the author and the word author. You get the word authority. They're the ones that create the authority.
00:16:14.180So basically, there's two types of Bible translation theories, the way that like processes.
00:16:21.620And the first is the dynamic equivalent translation style.
00:16:27.380And this is the thought for thought idea.
00:16:31.580So instead of taking every word, looking for the best English word, which is word for word, which is the next one we're going to talk about, they do thought for thought.
00:16:40.440So, there's a lot of interpretation involved in the translation process for dynamic equivalent Bibles.
00:16:48.720Now, most modern Bibles are dynamic equivalent Bibles.
00:16:53.080The NLT, the NIV, the Message, of course, the Passion Translation that just came out not too long ago.