Dale Partridge - Real Christianity #36： What is a Biblical Woman？ Part 1

00:00:00.000 hey guys welcome to another episode of real christianity today we are talking about what is

00:00:06.160 a biblical woman part one yes we are going to be doing a two-part series veronica is going to tell

00:00:11.120 us a little more about that in a second on biblical womanhood if you guys follow us on

00:00:17.360 social media i just posted a post on instagram about biblical womanhood and had a lot of

00:00:25.520 conversation and thought it was important to have a deeper conversation it was international women's

00:00:31.440 day a few days ago and thought it was a good time to bring some biblical truth to the conversation

00:00:35.840 of the culture about what it means to be a woman so veronic and i put together some scriptures

00:00:40.880 and we will continue that discussion today um a few things before we get started guys thank you

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00:01:38.400 again at the end of the episode today um let's start the conversation of biblical womanhood

00:01:48.000 Yeah. So Dale and I decided to do a two-part series on biblical manhood and womanhood.

00:01:53.680 But since last week was International Women's Day, we decided to start with the ladies.

00:01:58.240 So this is part one of two for the women, and then there will be two parts for the men as well.

00:02:02.800 Yes.

00:02:03.760 So we're going to be going through about four to six scriptures that speak directly to Christian manhood and womanhood.

00:02:10.720 Yeah. So men, also, I want you to pay attention to these episodes.

00:02:13.600 if you are a father or husband, or plan to be a father or husband at some point,

00:02:20.680 you cannot lead your wife or daughter to a place in which you don't understand,

00:02:31.640 or don't know how to get to, or don't know the descriptions or doctrines of what it means to

00:02:36.460 be a godly woman. So we have a part to play, especially as a father, especially as a husband,

00:02:42.320 to lead our wives toward what the Bible says a woman should be.

00:02:49.620 And now she's also responsible for that on her own journey.

00:02:52.280 But it is part of our leadership and our headship in our wives and daughters' lives.

00:02:57.460 So pay attention, please, to this.

00:02:59.620 We've actually, Veronica and I have sat down before in front of YouTube

00:03:02.040 and listened to several pastors teach on biblical manhood and womanhood.

00:03:05.800 And Veronica always loves the manhood ones because she just is like, yes,

00:03:11.060 like he's he's getting this truth from somebody else um and then i'm i'm sitting here also the

00:03:16.180 same side going yes look at this great stuff biblical content but we were yeah but at the

00:03:20.820 same time at least if you watch paul washers and in the biblical manhood you know he hits the men

00:03:26.340 really hard but then the biblical womanhood you're you're just like oh man okay here comes my turn

00:03:31.780 he's gonna just you know hit the women real hard yeah and then he starts preaching and he actually

00:03:36.260 still hits the men this is hard it's really funny yeah so i mean he gets the women too but yeah so

00:03:42.580 there's a really great series uh it's on youtube paul washer's biblical manhood part one and two

00:03:47.620 and three i think it's three parts and then he does it for women as well so uh biblical manhood

00:03:53.460 and womanhood is such a lost art today it is so rare um these passages actually are going to seem

00:04:03.460 foreign to us. They're actually even foreign to the church. I don't think many pastors of larger

00:04:10.680 churches are even teaching on these passages. And today's culture, it's just rare to see a man or a

00:04:16.860 woman or a wife or a husband walk out these biblical roles. It's sad, but it's true. I think 1.00

00:04:23.700 actually the last generation to see this kind of caliber, specifically of the women, because we're

00:04:29.780 talking about women today was the 19, if you were born in like 1940 or earlier, I think the 60s as

00:04:36.500 like, you could still kind of see a remnant of what it was to be a lady. Um, and just kind of 0.97

00:04:42.700 that real authentic beauty and just that character and countenance of a woman that is kind of rare

00:04:49.020 today. Women have been vandalized since then. I just feel like it's gotten a lot more raunchy. 1.00

00:05:00.500 It's gotten a lot more sexual. It's gotten a lot more aggressive, assertive. There's just

00:05:08.220 a loss that just two generations ago, they didn't know anything about this. And so these verses that

00:05:18.880 going to go over these this character that we're going to examine of a godly woman they were not

00:05:24.240 foreign or offensive 1940 and back um and it's important that we just recognize that there has

00:05:32.960 been a there has been some somewhat of a shift um i remember a bumper sticker that i saw once and i

00:05:38.720 think it's a really important point that we're going to dive into before we get started it said

00:05:43.760 feel far from god question mark who moved and it's implying that god didn't move no we moved

00:05:53.760 like we we moved away from from god and that's exactly what's happened in this transition of what

00:06:02.400 culturally was accepted to be what a woman was who she identified as how she carried herself

00:06:08.720 in comparison to the scriptures so who moved us or god yeah i hear this all the time when we talk

00:06:16.720 about biblical gender roles especially for women we hear a lot of people say it's 2019 why are you

00:06:22.640 trying to take us back to the 1950s it's the idea that morality or biblical doctrine is somehow

00:06:27.920 relative to a specific time in history and the truth is time doesn't change god's word god is

00:06:34.400 the same yesterday today tomorrow and forever um so the bible doesn't change it changes us

00:06:41.520 um the doctrines of the bible are universal and they are to be applied locally to your own life

00:06:48.080 in your own time yeah and so this is this is really critical i i want to just even say that

00:06:53.920 statement again time doesn't change god's word it's just so important just to hear that and

00:07:01.040 remember that that that's just a part of of yielding to scripture just because it's 2019 doesn't mean

00:07:07.520 that all of a sudden the bible's doctrines change yeah if we disagree with something that we read

00:07:11.840 in scripture it's not the bible that needs to change it's us yeah so there's a great quote um

00:07:17.760 dustin benj i don't really know dustin that well but i follow him on twitter and he's just got some

00:07:23.040 pretty solid content he's a he's a um reformation guy meaning that he uh is a reformed theology

00:07:31.120 would probably i'm assuming fall into that calvinist camp um but i i really appreciate

00:07:37.040 a lot of the truth that he drops in terms of just really good one-liners and he says

00:07:41.760 there is no tension in scripture if we perceive tension the tension is within us not scripture

00:07:49.600 And again, I think that there's, when you read some of these passages for womanhood

00:07:55.200 and for manhood, but generally women, there's a tension.

00:08:01.740 Like, I don't like to hear that.

00:08:03.280 I'm offended by that.

00:08:04.720 Well, is the tension in scripture or is the tension in us?

00:08:09.700 And I think it really is in us.

00:08:11.440 So I want to talk about just the unchanging word of God.

00:08:14.500 Well, and it goes back to the curse of Eve.

00:08:16.300 It does.

00:08:16.960 yeah the curse of eve is that that she will always have a desire for her husband to to

00:08:24.160 actually reverse the headship that these scriptures will kind of always make you uneasy yeah yeah it's

00:08:30.640 part of the curse to a woman but when you're yielded to scripture when you're yielded to god

00:08:34.960 you want to walk in his spirit these things actually become really great blessing for us to

00:08:40.080 have yeah um so matthew 24 through or 24 35 we're going to talk about just the unchanging word of

00:08:48.160 god uh it says heaven and earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away and so

00:08:58.720 god is actually saying that hey everything's gonna go except my word it is unchanging immovable

00:09:05.680 it is staying so again to to have this moral relativism or uh relative doctrine that actually

00:09:13.680 only is uh juris um it only has jurisdiction in certain periods of time throughout history

00:09:21.440 it is is implying that god's word is somehow changing or passing away and numbers 23 19 says

00:09:30.000 god is not human that he should lie not a human being that he should change his mind

00:09:38.080 does he speak and then not act question mark does he promise and not fulfill question mark of course

00:09:44.880 not he does not hebrews also says that it is impossible for god to lie this is critical as

00:09:50.800 you're putting the theology together of wow god's word does not change hebrews 13 8 continues with

00:09:57.040 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

00:10:02.160 And so how can Jesus' word be different if he's lying?

00:10:08.420 How can it change if it says that his words will not pass away?

00:10:11.960 And there's even a greater theological argument that we just don't have time for at this point.

00:10:17.940 But if you adopt this time-based approach to Scripture where the doctrines change when culture changes,

00:10:26.380 then we actually destabilize the entire Bible. And you need to realize like the weight of that

00:10:32.880 statement real quick. If God's word changes, like it's no longer authoritative in this time as it

00:10:40.900 was at that time, if it adjusts its authority in some capacity, then why doesn't the gospel change

00:10:49.560 then? Because if that can change, then that means anything in the scriptures can change, right?

00:10:54.940 Right? Why is it only that the argument of these scriptures that are, quote, old patriarchy

00:11:02.800 or for another time or written to the Corinthians and not to a modern area, why are they always

00:11:10.080 the ones that are politically unpopular? We don't argue that saved by grace through faith

00:11:15.700 has changed. We don't argue that 1 Corinthians 13 about love has changed. We don't argue that these

00:11:24.940 really popular scriptures around love and universally accepted scriptures, we don't

00:11:29.220 argue about those. We argue about the ones that we don't like in our flesh. And it's just important

00:11:36.060 to recognize that. If time changes the word of God, then it should be able to change the gospel.

00:11:42.640 And if it changes the gospel, then it destabilizes the entire Bible. It's important that we actually

00:11:47.620 allow the authority of scripture to maintain its authority throughout time. Now, to be interpreted

00:11:52.560 correctly but maintain its authority yeah when uh dale posted these scriptures about biblical

00:11:58.960 womanhood on his instagram he received hundreds of comments about the entrepreneurialism of the

00:12:05.120 proverbs 31 woman or the bravery of ruth and esther um but we have to remember that these

00:12:11.280 old testament historical narratives in wisdom literature are the descriptions of who these

00:12:16.240 women were but they are not god's definition of how all women should be yeah so this is a really

00:12:22.800 important point that veronica is making here um i taught on proverbs 31 i don't know earlier this

00:12:29.040 year and i'm going through it currently yeah she's teaching the women with the women in our church

00:12:33.440 yeah and and so um you know just a good example the proverbs 31 woman is a godly woman like we

00:12:42.160 we teach on it in our in our little house church but they are not the doctrines of a godly woman

00:12:48.960 they're the principles of a godly woman they're fantastic principles actually but they are not

00:12:54.800 the direct commands of scripture to how a woman must behave or should behave and if she does not

00:13:03.040 then then she's actually looking at being sinful behavior they're not those things

00:13:07.120 things. The scriptures that we are going through today, I would say, are much closer to being,

00:13:15.580 not all of them will talk about that, but are clear commands of the New Testament of how God

00:13:21.520 expects a woman to be and how she should behave, how she should think. And some of them are

00:13:28.600 absolutely doctrine as we go through this series. And so there's, again, I just want you guys to

00:13:33.360 understand the descriptive historical elements of Ruth and Esther and the Proverbs 31 woman and

00:13:43.220 many of the women of the Old Testament and the prescriptive doctrine that Jesus and his apostles

00:13:53.260 have actually delivered to us men and women on how to behave and carry ourselves under the New

00:14:00.180 covenant yeah so let's look at two of these doctrines that dale is chatting

00:14:04.740 about the first scripture we are going to be reading is going to be first

00:14:07.860 peter 3 3-4 and i'm going to be reading it in the new king james version do not

00:14:13.060 let your adornment be merely outward arranging the hair wearing gold or

00:14:16.980 putting on fine apparel rather let it be the hidden person of the heart with the

00:14:21.060 incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit which is very precious in

00:14:25.300 the sight of god so i chose specifically these scriptures to

00:14:29.620 talk about. And Veronica is going to dive in here as well, because there's a lot of questions about

00:14:35.200 this. What is a meek and quiet spirit or a gentle and quiet spirit? And so I just want to break this

00:14:41.420 down a little bit. And ladies, sometimes this stuff's harder to hear. Again, I think if we

00:14:49.640 yield our hearts to scripture and we just go, you know, God, I just want to do what you want me to

00:14:53.160 to nothing more nothing less um i just want you're an audience of one you are my audience yeah and

00:15:00.480 don't i mean don't take our word for it go out and search the scriptures yourself and study it and

00:15:04.820 talk about it with your spouse um and because yeah we really encourage you guys to know the word

00:15:09.900 for yourself and there's lots of stuff that we're going to be talking to men about the men have i

00:15:14.820 would say even a higher level of responsibility and conduct uh throughout the scripture uh not

00:15:21.640 not as a better or more, um, more important, but just a, a greater amount of weight that sits upon

00:15:29.340 the men that we will be talking about in a couple of weeks. Um, so this verse, uh, first Peter three,

00:15:35.180 three through four, um, it's, it's a really rich verse. If you actually catch what it's saying

00:15:41.920 here, what it's saying is, uh, I'll read it one more time just so we have the context for those

00:15:49.600 that are listening do not let your adornment be merely outward engaging the hair or arranging

00:15:55.580 the arranging the hair wearing gold or putting on fine apparel rather and it says don't let your

00:16:01.720 adornment be merely outward so it doesn't mean that you can't have outward adornment yeah just

00:16:05.860 not just just outward just outward adornment yeah rather let it be what it says let it be the hidden

00:16:12.740 person of the heart with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very

00:16:21.900 precious in the sight of God. So your hairstyle, your clothing, your jewelry, your makeup, whatever

00:16:29.660 ornament you add to your body in the sight of God actually has no value. And I found that just

00:16:37.700 interesting because um think about that you know the the like you're not impressing the lord with

00:16:44.420 the outfit you're wearing um now maybe if it's modest and you're honoring him in that capacity

00:16:49.060 but but he's not looking upon you going wow you look beautiful today he's looking at your heart

00:16:54.900 all these adornments are all to press impress other men and women maybe your husband maybe

00:17:00.900 your girlfriends and that's actually an okay thing to do as long as it's again modest and

00:17:05.460 and something that that is i would say of a godly woman um but they are physical adornments not

00:17:12.740 spiritual adornments and when we recognize that we can kind of elevate the spiritual adornments 0.70

00:17:18.900 higher than the physical ones because i think a lot of the women's focus today's culture 0.98

00:17:22.980 is on the physical adornments that's where we get the most attention and where we actually 1.00

00:17:28.420 for a lot of women have a lot of their value tied in how they look and what other people think of 0.99

00:17:33.620 of them instead of the Lord's perspective 0.98

00:17:35.560 and identity on them.

00:17:36.980 These physical adornments are also corruptible.

00:17:40.720 And Paul says, if you desire to impress the Lord, 0.97

00:17:47.640 he requests that the ladies be clothed in what?

00:17:51.480 An incorruptible, non-physical beauty.

00:17:55.220 Of a gentle and quiet spirit.

00:17:56.620 Yeah, of a gentle and quiet spirit. 0.96

00:17:59.360 We, the ladies dress themselves 0.98

00:18:03.620 uh, for the eyes of others. That's why we men do it too. You know, we dress ourselves for the eyes

00:18:10.840 of others. And it's so fascinating that says in the sight of God, um, it says rather let it be

00:18:18.900 in the hidden person, which is very, uh, a beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very

00:18:23.400 precious in the sight of God. It's thinking about God's eyes, I think is something that I would

00:18:29.280 encourage the ladies to do, and I think that I would, I'm going to teach Aria this, is when you

00:18:36.140 get ready, don't just think about the eyes of men and women. Think about how God's eyes are looking

00:18:43.100 upon you and the hidden person in your heart. Is that dressed as well as your outward appearance

00:18:48.700 is dressed? It says this is precious in the sight of God. While your beautiful red dress is maybe

00:18:56.080 precious in the sight of the eyes of your husband or your girlfriends, when the Lord

00:19:03.360 looks upon you, he's not going to see the decor of your body. He's going to see your heart.

00:19:08.920 And so I don't care how much effort you put into your physical body. He's looking at your spirit.

00:19:15.900 He's looking at your heart. And ladies, are you dressing yourselves, clothing yourselves

00:19:23.460 in a gentle and quiet spirit. So just examine yourself in that question. Now, what does it

00:19:29.460 mean to be gentle? The word is often translated from the Greek into the English as the word

00:19:36.540 meek, which is kind of not a common word that we use today. The word is praeus is how it's

00:19:44.400 pronounced in the Greek, which means mild or calm. So a mild and quiet spirit or a calm

00:19:52.420 and quiet spirit this is something that is precious in the sight of god uh and now i i 0.99

00:19:59.360 know there's a lot of ladies that are just like naturally like this and then there's some ladies 0.97

00:20:04.060 that are firecrackers like me and i see you looking at me it takes work i'm not naturally

00:20:10.600 a gentle i'm i'm more quiet but i'm not naturally a gentle person i'm a little i get agitated yeah

00:20:17.260 And it takes a lot of effort and self-control.

00:20:19.960 Yes, which is one of the things in the spirit.

00:20:21.700 Yeah, exactly.

00:20:22.820 So the word praeus, it's actually kind of a difficult way to translate it

00:20:29.800 because the word pra, P-R-A, the beginning of that means more than.

00:20:34.720 So it's like more than meek, more than calm, more than gentle.

00:20:40.600 But we have to remember that biblical meekness is not weakness.

00:20:45.000 It's actually God's strength under control.

00:20:49.980 And so you actually have this power.

00:20:54.440 And meekness is a trait that men need to have too.

00:20:58.300 I can steamroll someone in a scriptural argument,

00:21:01.740 and that's not meek.

00:21:04.260 It is important that we just go,

00:21:06.920 you know what, I'm gonna be gentle in this manner.

00:21:08.560 And I don't think Jesus was absolutely,

00:21:10.620 He was not steamrolling people in the way that he talked with them.

00:21:18.360 It's a harshness.

00:21:19.500 We're not demonstrating harshness, ladies.

00:21:22.440 Harshness is not a ladylike feature in the way that Jesus is looking at this.

00:21:29.260 Was Jesus's power shown in physical strength or actually physical weakness?

00:21:34.980 You know, he allowed himself to be beaten to death.

00:21:41.500 It was this physical weakness.

00:21:42.780 Did Jesus accomplish his work through physical power or spiritual humility?

00:21:47.460 Humility.

00:21:48.200 Yeah.

00:21:49.680 Did Jesus curse those who cursed him?

00:21:53.460 Did he return evil for evil?

00:21:56.500 No, he was so gentle.

00:21:59.380 Jesus wasn't aggressive.

00:22:00.840 He wasn't overbearing.

00:22:02.400 He wasn't belligerent.

00:22:03.600 he wasn't out of control or rude um and he was gentle and ladies he he calls us

00:22:11.560 not us ladies i'm not a lady he calls you guys he calls you ladies ladies there you go

00:22:17.120 he calls us he calls us all to gentleness but he calls you ladies specifically in your spirit

00:22:24.680 to be gentle and so yeah and so we just went over the word gentle so but what about the word quiet

00:22:32.640 What does it mean to have a quiet spirit?

00:22:35.040 It simply means to be calm or peaceable. 0.94

00:22:37.820 It means as a woman, we don't contend with others,

00:22:41.380 but instead allow the Holy Spirit to do the convicting in the lives of others.

00:22:46.160 I want to say a quick statement here.

00:22:48.460 I have ladies sometimes that text me through the Instagram app or whatever, 1.00

00:22:53.120 write me questions or something like that. 1.00

00:22:55.700 And they're just so intense.

00:22:57.700 Like they're just like arguing with me.

00:23:00.000 And I just go, ladies, don't argue with other men.

00:23:02.640 I mean, I'm not saying that you can't.

00:23:04.780 I'm just saying is that, man, pray.

00:23:07.540 It's a contentious spirit.

00:23:08.940 And that's not what God calls us to have.

00:23:10.460 Yeah.

00:23:11.080 Calls us to have a gentle and meek spirit.

00:23:12.740 If you have an issue with something another man says, talk to your husband about it.

00:23:17.220 Yeah.

00:23:17.940 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:19.040 Or have the conversation with that person.

00:23:22.160 You know, hopefully your husband is aware if you're not married.

00:23:24.300 But have that conversation with the person in a respectful manner.

00:23:27.100 to have a conversation, not to argue and contend to see who's right. 0.91

00:23:32.620 She doesn't allow her passions to overtake her, 1.00

00:23:35.580 which would just really be a lack of self-control 0.99

00:23:38.020 and just not ladylike in the Lord's eyes.

00:23:41.100 And not that it's wrong to have passions.

00:23:42.980 It's okay to have passions and to be a passionate person,

00:23:46.780 but just be mindful.

00:23:48.720 Is it overtaking you?

00:23:50.580 Is it taking priority? 1.00

00:23:52.400 Yeah, and we've seen ladies in our own lives 1.00

00:23:55.620 who are just passionate and and it doesn't again it's a self-control issue doesn't mean that you

00:24:01.180 can't be internally passionate but um but the lord is i think just yeah a meek spirit a calm

00:24:09.380 spirit it's ladylike and the lord i mean i know a lot of women that are very passionate and the

00:24:14.740 lord has gifted them with these with this knowledge and these things that they're passionate about but

00:24:18.760 we still have to abide by what the word calls us to do and what the word calls us to be and

00:24:25.260 And actually, when you are falling into your biblical role with those passions, when the

00:24:30.320 time comes to exercise that gift, it's actually much more powerful.

00:24:37.600 It is.

00:24:38.600 And we don't allow our emotions just because it feels good to be intense or to allow, you

00:24:47.960 know, to fight back or to be...

00:24:51.280 We can't let our emotions dictate how we behave.

00:24:54.760 well that's just kind of how culture is today you know it's like whoever's the loudest is the one

00:24:59.080 that gets heard or the one who wins or the one who's more powerful and that's just so contradictory

00:25:05.160 to the word yeah it's true and the scriptures say that we worship god in spirit and in truth

00:25:13.060 and so if you want to worship the lord you get to do it according to scripture and you get to do it

00:25:17.380 walking in the spirit uh the core of this verse actually which is ladies if you just want to read

00:25:21.980 1 Peter 3. It's got a lot about husbands and wives. The core of this verse, because it was

00:25:27.160 actually, if we look at the context of the chapter, it's about how a wife can win her husband to the

00:25:34.720 Lord through her conduct without saying anything, but instead through her behavior, her prayers.

00:25:46.480 And it implies that if you carry yourself in this manner,

00:25:49.920 you'll also employ a stronger strategy in your home

00:25:55.120 to winning your husband to the Christian faith 0.54

00:25:57.360 or to be obedient to the word

00:25:59.220 than being assertive or not quiet, not meek,

00:26:04.840 and trying to get your husband to behave a certain way.

00:26:09.020 And so I've just heard so many testimonies of women

00:26:12.100 who followed this and watched their husbands just,

00:26:17.220 the Holy Spirit just turned the husband's heart over time.

00:26:20.740 I think this is actually seen in the Lee Strobel's movie

00:26:24.480 that came out, The Case for Christ.

00:26:26.260 I think it's a really good example of what that looks like. 1.00

00:26:28.900 So ladies, are you assertive or aggressive? 1.00

00:26:33.800 Maybe you've called it passion. 1.00

00:26:35.840 Maybe it's intense.

00:26:37.480 Maybe people call me intense.

00:26:38.980 Maybe you've been called blunt.

00:26:42.100 And it's worth examining if you're dressing yourselves with what the world calls beautiful, this kind of opposite character of what a woman in the scriptures look like, how the culture paints what a woman could be, should be, is, or are you dressing yourself in your spirit according to what the Lord is looking for in your character?

00:27:07.080 Yeah. So this next verse that we're going to go over is actually one of my favorites. It offers 0.71

00:27:12.920 so much clarity of the character of a godly woman. So it's going to be Titus 2, verse 3 through 5.

00:27:19.780 Again, New King James Version. The older women likewise, that they be reverent in behavior, 0.94

00:27:24.440 not slanderers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things, that they admonish the young 0.98

00:27:29.160 women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be discreet, chaste, homemakers,

00:27:33.400 good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be blasphemed.

00:27:38.800 Now we could spend three episodes talking on just that one passage, but today we're

00:27:43.960 just going to touch on a few of these characteristics.

00:27:46.700 Yeah.

00:27:46.860 And before we jump on that, why don't you talk real quick about our community, which 0.96

00:27:54.240 was really led up by an older woman named Lisa Jacobson.

00:27:58.560 And her husband.

00:27:59.240 And her husband.

00:27:59.840 Yeah. 0.99

00:27:59.980 But I'm talking just specifically for the women. 1.00

00:28:01.420 For the women.

00:28:01.660 she holds these gatherings she's put together these gatherings you've been

00:28:05.020 doing for a couple years now called Titus 2 gatherings and it teaches you

00:28:10.180 what it means to be a godly woman can you talk about those just for a second

00:28:12.520 yeah we meet once a month and these gatherings are called our Titus 2

00:28:16.060 meeting we have it once a month and it's more really like the practical side

00:28:20.380 of a godly woman it's how to be keepers of the home how to love your husbands 0.97

00:28:25.300 how to love your children discreet chase homemakers and we've gone you know

00:28:29.020 whatever this scripture says we've had a class kind of it's kind of like a class on all of these

00:28:35.340 things but we also have had very practical things um i know our upcoming one is a lot of us homeschool

00:28:41.660 and so it's going to be um like the beginning years of homeschooling and um different approaches

00:28:48.940 and different styles and then we've also done bread making and we've also um done

00:28:54.220 meal planning hospitality meal planning hospital health like um during cold and flu season how to

00:29:00.540 protect your family using natural remedies things like that um so it's just super practical and it

00:29:05.980 has been a huge blessing to not only myself but all the women that have been um attending these

00:29:10.620 titus 2 meetings and then also what we learn we get to teach it to the the women younger than us

00:29:15.740 yeah exactly and this is really the core of this of just again emulating constantly what it means

00:29:21.180 to be a godly woman there is ministry to do the world is warring for the hearts of women right now

00:29:28.780 yeah and if you and if you happen to be an older woman listening to this um i just really really

00:29:33.340 want to encourage you to fall into that biblical role because it is so needed there are so many i

00:29:38.540 get you know messages every single day i've one of my friends from indiana just called and asked to

00:29:43.340 speak about this specifically because they're going to try and do that with their fellowship

00:29:46.700 out in indiana and um it's just a huge blessing it's so needed because so many women today were

00:29:53.340 not raised in godly biblical homes or didn't have godly biblical moms and they they get married and

00:29:57.980 all of a sudden they realize i don't know what i'm doing um so just to um equip the young women

00:30:04.700 um and reach out to them would be a huge blessing absolutely yeah so um yeah let's talk about this

00:30:12.140 word uh there's a few words again we can't talk about all these things so we'll just hit a few

00:30:16.860 i'm just going to hit a few of these and one of them i'm going to talk about is the word

00:30:20.140 chased uh just it means um it's easy to just pass over this real quick the word chase is just like

00:30:27.340 in the bunch of commas um it means abstaining from all extramarital sexuality it's pure pure

00:30:34.620 right yeah um and i'd imagine that that it would extend this command of being pure uh to having

00:30:41.900 a pure and loyal emotional uh perspective and affections for your husband as well not just

00:30:49.820 your physical body and being pure there but in your emotions in your affections which again

00:30:55.740 in your thoughts and your thoughts all those things is so important yeah and this might seem 1.00

00:31:00.220 obvious but more and more women are falling in to the sin of pornography you know years ago as we'd 1.00

00:31:06.460 only talk to the men but now it's more and more women um or sleeping with their boyfriends and

00:31:10.540 so i think this passage in the scripture here is still very very relevant to today yeah and yeah

00:31:16.860 what an older woman needs to be teaching a younger woman is to protect her sexuality and any any

00:31:25.500 sexual activity outside of marriage in the scriptures is considered sexual immorality or 0.81

00:31:31.500 fornication and the scriptures speak directly to this that the sexually immoral will not

00:31:36.540 inherit the kingdom of heaven it's it's a really powerful scripture and i know a lot of ladies we

00:31:42.220 we do ministry with lots of 19 to 20 somethings at our you know because we're we're in our you know

00:31:50.540 early 30s well veronica's 29 i'm 29 as they speak for yourself but we have a lot of early 20s that

00:31:58.620 are dealing a lot with us just being pure and not sleeping around with their boyfriends

00:32:04.940 yeah so next one we want to touch on is keepers at home can a family operate well without the

00:32:10.780 intentional care of a home no no not at all you either have to pay someone to care for the home

00:32:16.300 for you or it just kind of falls apart so the bible has uh distributed this responsibility to

00:32:22.300 the women yeah this is this is a lady's responsibility um it's it's clear that the

00:32:28.700 ladies are to be the keeper of the home uh we even see this throughout the book of acts i think this

00:32:34.220 is really fascinating that the culture was intact there like just culturally uh when it's talking

00:32:41.100 about all the churches that it references in the book of acts um it was mentioned that you know it

00:32:47.740 was a church that the church that met at mary's house or the church that met at lydia's house or

00:32:52.220 the church that met at priscilla's house these are uh the the owner of the home the the queen of the

00:32:59.980 home was the woman and and that's just i think a really honorable statement that like that is her 1.00

00:33:07.340 domain people want to talk about the entrepreneurialness of the proverbs 31 woman but 0.99

00:33:11.660 she also was an amazing housekeeper yes kept her home and managed it and she was structured and

00:33:17.660 organized and she excelled well we also forget that the proverbs 31 woman and ruth and um

00:33:25.180 uh well i don't know about esther i'd have to look back at that but our mothers and they are wives

00:33:30.940 as well we sometimes want to divorce that idea that the proverbs 31 woman is just this like

00:33:35.580 entrepreneurial independent woman like no she's also an epic mother and well it says and at the

00:33:40.700 end of the passage says that her husband may be known in the gates yeah she does all this so that

00:33:45.020 her husband may be known in the gates yes so anyway um we're getting a little off topic but

00:33:50.700 does that mean a woman can have no outside focus of the home no it just simply means that her home

00:33:56.140 should be the centralized focus of her ministry and of her life the lord expects ladies to care

00:34:02.140 for their homes and he will measure our lives against his word and as jesus says if you love

00:34:08.380 me you will keep my commands yeah and i actually um we have lots of ladies in our community and 0.99

00:34:16.140 lots of ladies that we know that are power players in the world and crushing it at home

00:34:23.260 but it's because they are the the home is central but the lord does this beautiful thing where it

00:34:30.540 It says that the humble will be exalted.

00:34:34.720 And these ladies, when they humble themselves, the Lord exalts them.

00:34:37.300 We have friends that, you know, Aaron and Jen Smith at Marriage After God. 0.97

00:34:42.360 Jen's got, you know, a hundred thousand people or a million people or whatever that follow her.

00:34:49.880 And Veronica and her ministry and our friends at Courageous Parenting that do another podcast here locally,

00:34:56.840 Angie and Isaac Tolpin, the Lord is building that platform.

00:34:59.940 There's lots of work outside of the home that they're doing, ministry that's happening, but the home is focused, is the focus part.

00:35:10.940 So in scripture, I want to just, you know, remind the ladies that they're not expected to provide financially for the family, for themselves even, in scripture.

00:35:24.800 Like what a blessing that is. 0.93

00:35:26.140 man, you ladies need to be taken advantage of that, you know, just in terms of like the men 1.00

00:35:31.380 are called to do the providing. And now this is just recently kind of changed over the last 1.00

00:35:36.920 hundred years, but man, if I was wanting to sit and rest in that capability, that man, you are

00:35:43.140 not called in the same manner to provide physically and financially for the family

00:35:50.260 or to protect the family from physical threats.

00:35:54.540 You don't need to become a man.

00:35:56.140 You can become a woman. 0.99

00:35:57.220 Again, Satan's plan for the culture today 0.97

00:36:00.300 is that men will be boys, women will be men,

00:36:03.460 and children, as a result, will become irrelevant

00:36:06.900 and the home will fall apart.

00:36:09.840 Homemaking, just from me learning more and more about it,

00:36:13.320 just by watching Veronica 0.91

00:36:14.520 and some of the older women in our community,

00:36:15.920 it is an absolute honor.

00:36:17.940 and I want you guys to just hear this. The home is the nucleus of all life. It is absolutely the

00:36:26.160 core part of a healthy walk with God and a healthy family. And there is a direct correlation with

00:36:32.560 those people who suffer from depression, anxiety, insomnia, and those that had a broken home or

00:36:39.940 just a disorganized home. There's actually studies that show that you as a woman, whoever's in your

00:36:46.520 home, whether it's roommates or children or a husband, you get to actually dictate the health,

00:36:52.460 the future health of these people by the home that you put together. And so, yeah, so that's

00:36:59.960 just one point I want to make. I want to mention a couple of things in this verse, then we'll

00:37:04.240 wrap it up here in a second. It says a teacher of good things in that passage in Titus 2.

00:37:10.220 what are good things? Who gets to define good or bad? Well, God does. And I think about the story

00:37:20.140 when the rich young ruler is chasing after Jesus and he says, hey, good teacher. And Jesus says,

00:37:25.760 hey, why do you call me good? There is only one good and that's God. Well, what he's really saying

00:37:32.380 is that like, wow, are you recognizing me as the deity in which I am? But what that's saying is,

00:37:40.220 is a teacher of good things is a teacher of godly things.

00:37:46.440 And the Lord is calling ladies to teach godly things to younger ladies.

00:37:54.720 And so this is a part of your role, and you cannot teach what you do not know.

00:38:01.480 Yeah, and this is a call for women to be educated in the scriptures

00:38:04.780 and experienced in righteousness. 0.78

00:38:07.680 yeah and to teach these truths to other women um to make it a habit to proactively teach these

00:38:15.200 things of god to the younger women yeah yeah and this is something that you can speak from

00:38:21.240 your own experience like you don't naturally you know go out and start teaching like it like it

00:38:27.200 says a teacher of good things like you need you you've walked into becoming this why don't you

00:38:31.740 talk about that for a second well that and i'm also i'm 29 yeah i'm not an older woman so there's

00:38:37.280 also wisdom there as well um but if a younger woman were to approach me in our community and

00:38:43.000 ask for some um counsel or advice on something i would you know share with them what i know yeah

00:38:49.240 and we're you know and lead them back to the scriptures talk about the point is that you're

00:38:52.920 always older than somebody right yeah yeah yeah you're always older than somebody i'm 29 i've got

00:38:57.480 several women in our church community that are younger than me that i can pour into their lives

00:39:01.280 but there is this passage is specifically talking to about an older woman i would say 35 and up

00:39:06.000 is considered an older woman, meaning that you have some experience in marriage, you have some

00:39:11.300 experience in child raising, you have some experience in homes, like decade plus experience.

00:39:18.160 And so I think that's an important point. And then going back to this passage, it actually

00:39:22.720 closes with that the word of God may not be blasphemed. So this means that the gospel can

00:39:28.300 be injured by women living in a manner inconsistent with the very book that they claim to have found 1.00

00:39:34.700 got through okay huge point that we need to just kind of hammer down a few more times because it 0.63

00:39:42.140 listed all these things how a woman should be and it says it's implying that you need to do these

00:39:47.900 things and if you don't do these things that the word of god may be blasphemed and what it's saying

00:39:54.780 is that why should a skeptic or an onlooker believe that the gospel is true when you as a

00:40:03.740 lady are not even walking according to the book that you received the gospel from i'm supposed

00:40:11.900 to believe the gospel is true that you found in that book right there yet you are not even walking

00:40:17.180 according to the way that that book tells you to live that's craziness and the same thing men we

00:40:23.340 can absolutely blaspheme the word of god when we walk contrary to the scriptures oh jesus christ

00:40:29.820 Oh, look at the gospel. It's so good. Thank you, Lord, for saving us. Let me go live like

00:40:34.740 hell or live opposite to that. It absolutely can injure the gospel. So, bottom line,

00:40:42.880 as we close out here in a second, men and women have equal value before the eyes of the Lord,

00:40:49.160 but we're different in role. We have different roles. We're both made in God's image,

00:40:56.560 but we are complementary pairs. And I pointed this out in our ultimate marriage program,

00:41:03.920 our six-week program, which we're getting ready to launch actually soon. Just a little plug there.

00:41:09.960 But even the creation narrative supports this idea of complementarianism. And I want to explain that.

00:41:17.240 When God created the world, he created heaven and earth. He creates land and sea, sun and moon,

00:41:22.160 man and woman and these are not duplicated sameness he's not duplicating land and land

00:41:29.120 or heaven and heaven no they're complementary pairs they're not competing elements they're

00:41:35.520 complementary to each other and notice that also that god pulls eve out of adam's side

00:41:44.960 he doesn't pull him or doesn't pull eve out of uh adam's feet that adam would trample upon her he

00:41:51.520 He doesn't pull Eve out of her, out of Adam's head that woman would rule over.

00:41:57.480 No, he pulls Eve out of his rib, which is close to his heart and his side, his core of who he is.

00:42:04.780 And I just think that it's just beautiful that he chose to do that in that spot.

00:42:09.560 So now the Lord has given headship throughout the scriptures.

00:42:16.220 It's pretty clear to man.

00:42:18.480 It was the man that was created first.

00:42:20.640 And there's this idea of the birthright throughout Scripture, if you study that.

00:42:24.620 It was the man that was given the instructions of morality in the Garden of Eden.

00:42:29.440 He was kind of the moral guard of what is right and wrong.

00:42:34.360 Those were not given to Eve.

00:42:36.240 It was the man that was given the helper.

00:42:39.660 So there is some headship structure.

00:42:43.140 But Eve was never diminished or independent.

00:42:47.380 Remember, that word helper is the same word.

00:42:50.640 that is used to describe the Holy Spirit.

00:42:55.120 And remember, the Holy Spirit is absolutely equal

00:42:57.900 with Christ and with God the Father.

00:43:00.880 And prior to the fall, and even after,

00:43:05.420 Eve was linked together with her husband in one mission.

00:43:11.380 And just the mission is to serve the Lord God.

00:43:14.460 So it's not about hierarchy.

00:43:16.160 We're gonna be talking about some of these things next week,

00:43:18.000 But I just want you guys to understand those deeper elements of this biblical narrative.

00:43:23.080 Yes.

00:43:23.700 So next week, we're going to be talking about three more verses on the topics of submission to your husband, modesty, and what it means to be a helper.

00:43:31.640 But for now, thanks for listening to this episode.

00:43:34.760 We hope that it was edifying to you.

00:43:36.940 Again, if you'd consider leaving us a review on iTunes, also you can hear these messages, watch the video, or review our notes at relearnchurch.org.

00:43:47.280 under the listen tab but that's not currently it's not currently up but it'll be up soon and

00:43:52.640 again if you're listening to this like you know months later it'll definitely be up but if you're

00:43:56.940 listening real time yeah it's just another couple days um hopefully by our next episode but we will

00:44:02.180 backlog all the past episodes there so that you guys 30 up right yeah from episode number 30 and

00:44:07.800 up um because prior it was our podcast was called ultimate marriage if you guys have been following

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00:44:17.660 can we get your notes those notes will be working on it yeah those scriptures will be there so

00:44:22.620 Thanks for listening.

00:44:23.580 Until next time.

00:44:24.760 See you guys.

00:44:25.240 Take care.

Dale Partridge - March 13, 2019

Real Christianity #36： What is a Biblical Woman？ Part 1

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