Dale Partridge - March 20, 2019


Real Christianity #37: What is a Biblical Woman? Part 2


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00:00:00.000 welcome to another episode of real christianity today we are talking about what is a biblical
00:00:06.040 woman part two part two we did part one last week and so uh before we dive in veronica is
00:00:15.060 going to start with us uh but i wanted to tell you if you haven't left a review we would appreciate
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00:01:13.040 what is a biblical woman? Part two. So if you haven't yet, go ahead and go back and listen
00:01:16.880 to last week's episode to part one of this series before listening to this episode,
00:01:22.240 because there we open up that episode with the context of why we're doing this series
00:01:29.200 and some of the theology behind how we're viewing these passages.
00:01:33.920 And then next week, we're going to be doing a two-part series on what it means to be a biblical man.
00:01:38.780 So ladies, just as the men should listen to the biblical woman episodes,
00:01:43.720 you should also listen to the biblical manhood episodes
00:01:46.400 because it's good for both men and women to know.
00:01:48.940 um yeah to know what the bible says about gender roles and responsibilities yeah and we did this
00:01:54.740 i mean you watched uh paul washer did a fantastic series on biblical manhood and you enjoyed that
00:02:02.240 right oh yeah yeah so we we sat in bed and watched a three-part youtube series not only is it is it
00:02:08.540 um kind of give you more clarity on your own role to be walking out but if you have children
00:02:13.520 It gives you some clarity on where to be guiding them as well.
00:02:17.560 Yeah, exactly.
00:02:18.220 You're a mother of boys.
00:02:20.920 It gives you a perspective of what manhood really is and should be.
00:02:24.620 If you're the father of daughters or you have a wife,
00:02:27.380 then you have the perspective of what the Bible prescribes a woman to be.
00:02:32.220 So, yeah, one thing I wanted to mention that I did mention in the first episode,
00:02:36.820 but mentioning again just for super clear context,
00:02:40.900 is that we are not talking about the descriptions of what a woman is in the Old Testament.
00:02:47.920 We are talking about the doctrines of what a woman is called to be in the New Testament.
00:02:53.900 And it's really easy for us to want to leverage the descriptions of a certain woman historically,
00:03:01.440 like the Proverbs 31 woman or Ruth or Esther, Deborah.
00:03:06.680 but in reality that's different than the doctrines of what womanhood is to be according to the new
00:03:15.000 covenant which supersedes the old testament in terms of its i guess how we're supposed to be
00:03:22.760 obedient to god's word and so that's what we're talking about today we have a variety of scriptures
00:03:27.200 that we're going to go through last week we touched on three or four scriptures and then this week
00:03:31.680 we're going to touch on three scriptures too yep so we're going to cover three passages today and
00:03:37.300 we're going to start with some background theology on what it means for a woman to be a helper to her
00:03:42.240 husband so in genesis 2 verse 18 it says and the lord god said it is not good for it is not good
00:03:50.200 that man should be alone i will make him a helper comparable to him yeah this is a pretty popular
00:03:56.480 passage of scripture i think every time you talk about marriage this passage comes up i don't think
00:04:01.840 a lot of people talk about it as much as they used to i don't think that churches are talking
00:04:06.320 about marriage or roles or gender roles really much at all anymore because it can be so offensive
00:04:11.840 to a culture today but i think that there's some clarity that needs to be happening on what this
00:04:17.520 means and so a lot of christians think that this idea of the head and helper this is like the
00:04:24.560 the theology word that they call it in like seminary,
00:04:28.100 it would be called the head and helper
00:04:29.840 or head plus helper structure
00:04:31.460 that God ordained here in the Garden of Eden,
00:04:34.440 but also reinforces later in the New Testament
00:04:37.040 in Ephesians 5, 1 Peter 3, and so on.
00:04:41.680 But a lot of Christians think that this idea,
00:04:43.580 the structure of Adam and Eve's head and helper
00:04:46.280 is some like patriarchal structure of the Old Testament.
00:04:49.340 And it's only because of the fall of man and sin.
00:04:52.800 in a perfect world without sin, 0.74
00:04:56.420 God would not have made a woman the helper, 0.69
00:05:00.520 but instead offer her an equal role with man.
00:05:06.000 So this is actually just some tragic situation that happened,
00:05:09.920 the way that it's played out,
00:05:11.160 and we need to kind of rectify it in a modern world.
00:05:14.080 That's kind of a way that this could be taken.
00:05:17.040 But I'm actually here to tell you
00:05:18.800 that that's actually not a good way to look at the scriptures
00:05:21.080 Because if you look back at the book of Genesis, you'll see that God actually set up the headship and helper structure or the headship and submission structure and the roles for husband and wife prior to sin entering into the world.
00:05:37.820 Genesis 3 is the fall of man, and this is Genesis 2.
00:05:40.800 So what I'm saying here is that in a perfect, sinless world, God still designed marriage to be head and helper, or in the roles of headship and submission, without sin.
00:05:58.180 Like perfect world, no sin at all, God still designed it that way.
00:06:02.680 Now, equal in value, different in role, both bearing the image of God and valued, again, identically before the cross.
00:06:11.640 This isn't a value conversation.
00:06:13.280 This is a role and responsibility conversation.
00:06:16.800 And the word in the King James Version is help meet.
00:06:23.040 There's New King James might say like a helper.
00:06:26.640 I looked up the Hebrew today and I was spending some time studying it.
00:06:30.020 It's pretty fascinating.
00:06:30.920 It actually means a helper like his opposite, comparable to him, like his opposite.
00:06:39.460 Not his inferior helper, but his opposite.
00:06:43.740 Again, we're talking about what, you know, I think I mentioned this last episode that God created complementary pairs, you know, heaven and earth, you know, land and sea, moon and sun, man and woman.
00:06:59.140 these are not duplicated sameness, but they're actually complementary. They're equally valuable.
00:07:04.840 They're all critical, but they're different in their role. And, you know, so the word helper
00:07:12.080 also is actually the same word that God uses in the scriptures to describe the Holy Spirit as the
00:07:20.000 helper. And so the helper cannot mean inferior, because if you look at the Trinity, the Holy
00:07:26.800 spirit is not inferior but equal just different role and different responsibility so yeah over
00:07:34.320 the years i've heard a lot of women say that just because a woman is a helper doesn't mean
00:07:38.640 that her husband is above her and yes that's true he's not above you but he's actually in front of
00:07:43.480 you um so we even see this played out in the garden of eden um and i'll go ahead and let you
00:07:48.060 explain that yeah so the in the garden of eden this idea that people i think uh they try to
00:07:54.740 escape the reality that Adam is actually the head, even though it doesn't necessarily say
00:08:00.760 the head versus helper structure, but it definitely implies it if you read the text.
00:08:05.980 And I'm going to give you a couple of points. And again, this will all wrap up here at the end,
00:08:10.760 but I think it's important for the ladies so that you can actually be confident that 1.00
00:08:15.180 this is the role that God designed you for as a woman. And it's been like this since the 0.89
00:08:21.160 beginning of time. So in the creation order, man was created before woman. And that's unique. 0.80
00:08:27.920 If woman were equal in role, why didn't God create man and woman simultaneously?
00:08:34.440 So it's just something to ask yourself. This is actually the idea of precedence,
00:08:39.480 the firstborn. And this firstborn concept actually continues to go on throughout the entire
00:08:45.500 Old Testament and New Testament, but Jesus is actually the firstborn physically, but also the
00:08:51.740 firstborn and first raised of the dead. And so there's some really interesting themes of
00:08:55.840 precedence that we don't have time for. But point number two is that we can also see that Adam was
00:09:01.660 the leader or the head by the authority that God gave Adam to name woman. And so he gave Adam this
00:09:11.640 role. And it's funny because the force of that argument is actually still felt today. Many women
00:09:19.100 resist male leadership by not taking their husband's name at marriage. And so this is still
00:09:25.720 an issue of not letting their wives or not letting their husbands name them in a capacity. I mean,
00:09:31.540 obviously different than we're talking about in the Garden of Eden, but taking their last name.
00:09:35.360 And so it's another way to kind of show that I'm actually not going to fall in line or be submissive or identify as one with you.
00:09:47.700 Number three, in the Garden of Eden, we can see that God creating Eve for man.
00:09:55.580 And so he actually creates Eve for man.
00:09:58.700 He doesn't create man for woman.
00:10:00.660 This is actually expressed again later in the New Testament just as an argument.
00:10:06.120 But he also creates Eve as man's helper.
00:10:11.120 And there's no current institution throughout history where the helper is the leader or in an equal capacity of role.
00:10:20.400 The helper is always the helper.
00:10:21.860 And so again, God creates Eve for Adam and also identifies her as helper.
00:10:34.320 And that is kind of an important identity as a woman to just realize if you could just embrace this stuff.
00:10:39.660 And I know Veronica is going to touch on that.
00:10:42.100 And then the fourth thing is that we can see that God actually gives Adam and not Eve
00:10:47.840 the instructions and rules of the garden, you know, of what trees to eat from and what trees
00:10:55.980 to not eat from. These are like the rules of morality that God has given Adam in this specific
00:11:02.620 moment. And if it were complete equality, as many people like to argue, God would have instructed
00:11:10.040 them together instead of entrusting the rules of morality to adam so those are some really quick
00:11:16.600 points of just i guess illuminating that this has been this way since the beginning
00:11:24.680 yeah and none of this is to make um us women feel less than it's simply to help us rest in the role
00:11:32.360 that god has created for us that his god has made us to be um and culture is fighting so hard to
00:11:38.680 make women feel that god's design is inferior and that they should not be seeking to help their
00:11:44.360 husband and they should not be submitting or not staying at home not getting married
00:11:48.840 and not becoming mothers and society is under this pursuit um society being under this pursuit
00:11:56.200 is actually not improved it's only gotten worse yeah it's totally gotten worse i mean we're not
00:12:01.240 seeing like an improving strength of the family we're not seeing like the the more the metrics
00:12:07.640 of morality improving in culture today um and and i i think what you said here is that that it's
00:12:14.520 simply to help women rest in the role that god made for them i think a lot of women i think at
00:12:21.240 least for me when i finally accepted that is that is how god called me it actually brought me a lot
00:12:26.200 of peace yeah you don't have to like yes guess yeah or try to fight to be approved in so many
00:12:34.200 other different capacities. And so I just think it's a beautiful thing. What I want to take away
00:12:40.120 for the men here is that husbands, it's not a sin or God's antiquated design that this old
00:12:49.500 patriarchy is terrible. There's a lot of, it's a loaded word, patriarchy, but in terms of just
00:12:55.380 male leadership of the family, husbandry, true biblical husbandry, it's not a sin. God has
00:13:03.040 actually given you the position to assume loving headship in relationship to your wife. And it's
00:13:12.480 not, it's actually God's perfect design for you. This is where you are to be. And we're going to
00:13:19.140 talk about that to the men next week about what that actually looks like. But this again for the
00:13:24.720 ladies is God's perfect design for you as a wife. And it's a good thing to be a helper. And I think 0.84
00:13:32.740 as veronica said just just sitting in that gives you peace just going oh i i'm made to help my
00:13:39.500 husband fulfill the work that the lord has given to him and us because we are one but he's going
00:13:47.820 to lead that out um and i think it's just an important perspective to yield to and it gives
00:13:55.220 a lot of peace to embrace it yeah embrace it that's the word i was looking for um so the next
00:13:59.320 scripture we're going to go through scripture number two is going to be found in Ephesians
00:14:02.700 chapter 5 verse 22 through 24 and I'll read it here for you wives submit to your own husbands
00:14:09.440 as to the Lord for the husband is head of the wife is also Christ is head of the church and he 0.91
00:14:14.840 is the savior of the body therefore just as the church is subject to Christ so let the wives be
00:14:19.880 to their own husbands in everything so this doctrine is is not just reinforced by Paul but
00:14:28.160 it's also reinforced by peter yeah this is three yeah this is the doctrine of submission so we're
00:14:33.680 hitting that um that part i guess the idea is that we talked about helper now we're talking
00:14:38.680 about submission okay um so yeah it's all it's actually in um the book of peter as well yep in
00:14:45.560 chapter three um of his first epistle and i'll go ahead and read that for you too wives likewise
00:14:52.000 be submissive to your own husbands that even if some do not obey the word they without a word
00:14:56.940 may be won by the conduct of their wives
00:14:59.000 when they observe your chaste conduct accompanied by fear.
00:15:03.840 So yeah, it's an unpopular idea in the culture 0.99
00:15:07.540 and even in the church to be a submissive wife. 0.54
00:15:11.720 But Dale's going to break down the idea of submission for us.
00:15:15.520 Yeah, I'm going to break this down.
00:15:19.260 Again, I'm not trying to comment this with my opinion.
00:15:22.840 I'm just trying to explain what I think the scriptures are teaching
00:15:25.640 and you get to determine and evaluate
00:15:30.120 what that means in your life.
00:15:32.300 You know, I didn't write it.
00:15:33.800 You know, I feel like sometimes I'd go,
00:15:35.500 man, I would have probably wrote that differently.
00:15:37.320 But God's practices reinforce God's purposes.
00:15:40.000 I've learned that over and over again.
00:15:41.860 The culture pushes against, pretty much,
00:15:44.480 I've learned this.
00:15:45.620 If it's unpopular in the culture,
00:15:47.300 it's probably right with God.
00:15:50.100 That's generally...
00:15:52.280 That's how it's worked out for us.
00:15:54.000 Yeah, that's how it's worked out for us.
00:15:55.040 If it's the hard thing is usually the right thing, the unpopular thing is usually the right thing.
00:15:59.440 And so the first note that we're going to talk about is this is submitting to your own husbands. 0.97
00:16:08.520 Ladies, you don't need to submit to every man. 0.99
00:16:11.800 This is submitting to your own husbands. 1.00
00:16:13.860 That's what the scriptures are teaching. 0.91
00:16:15.580 I would say if you're an unmarried woman, an unmarried adult woman even,
00:16:19.380 and you're the daughter of a father who follows Christ,
00:16:26.060 that I would say just through my understanding of the scriptures
00:16:30.160 that it would be a godly thing to be in submission to your father.
00:16:36.300 Or if you don't have a godly father,
00:16:38.940 then you would fall under what I think the scriptures do teach
00:16:42.580 is that you would be in submission to your elders
00:16:45.180 or your pastor even at church.
00:16:49.380 And so that's another topic, but I wanted to answer that question
00:16:52.460 because a lot of people are going, I'm not married.
00:16:54.320 You know, who am I?
00:16:56.020 Am I just a free agent?
00:16:58.820 We all have our own independent relationships with Christ,
00:17:01.880 but I think that God's design is that, yeah, you should be, as a woman,
00:17:07.260 you know, all the men are in submission to Christ, which we'll talk about,
00:17:10.920 but all the women should be in submission to their fathers, their husbands, 0.93
00:17:14.360 or their spiritual leaders in the church.
00:17:19.380 which again is sometimes hard today.
00:17:22.500 But so yeah, Paul doesn't just say this, Peter says this.
00:17:26.880 So if we want to do theological gymnastics,
00:17:28.500 you got to get around Paul and you got to get around Peter.
00:17:31.240 And this is pretty impossible in terms of
00:17:34.820 when you look at the scriptures themselves.
00:17:37.920 Paul and Peter tell wives to submit to their own husbands,
00:17:40.760 but they also command husbands in both of these letters
00:17:45.260 and throughout the rest of the scriptures to submit to Christ.
00:17:48.680 So just remember that the husbands aren't free agents either.
00:17:51.800 They're submitting to Christ.
00:17:53.700 And they're also called to love their wives as Christ loved the church,
00:17:57.540 which is a big deal because the way that Christ loved his church is that he died for her.
00:18:02.500 He gave himself up.
00:18:03.800 He displayed his headship for his wife by dying for her,
00:18:08.780 sacrificing his own desires in order to make the path to salvation easy.
00:18:15.760 And so, again, we'll hit this with the men next week.
00:18:20.300 The idea here, the theological idea that I guess we've put together as a society or as a church
00:18:27.140 is called derived authority or subsequent submission.
00:18:33.360 And I want to explain that.
00:18:35.880 Ultimately, ladies, you're following your husband who's following Christ,
00:18:39.340 and Christ is following God the Father. 0.52
00:18:42.360 This is also displayed in 1 Corinthians 11 when it says that the head of every woman is man, is her husband.
00:18:52.560 The head of man is Christ. The head of Christ is God.
00:18:55.540 And that's the beginning of 1 Corinthians 11.
00:18:59.780 So this is, again, and I know the scariest thing for a woman is to follow a husband or be in submission to a husband who's not in submission to Christ.
00:19:10.980 That's a terrifying thing.
00:19:13.920 But this is what the scripture, these are letters to Christians.
00:19:17.380 I will say that.
00:19:18.980 And there's a call for the Christian husband and there's a call for the Christian wife. 1.00
00:19:23.220 And for the woman, it is submission to her husband. 1.00
00:19:27.980 I'm going to say this another way. 1.00
00:19:30.580 Ladies should not be viewing submission as forced subordination. 1.00
00:19:38.020 That's not what this is. 0.99
00:19:39.260 Like Christ isn't here to put women like in some undervalued forced subordination position.
00:19:47.060 Instead, he's here to say what he's desiring is willing participation to be under one mission with your husband.
00:19:57.020 And I really like that definition of submission is to be under one mission.
00:20:01.240 and you are one flesh as a husband and wife and you're willing to fall in line in the leadership
00:20:12.140 structure that ends with God the Father at the top and so you're not an independent entity an
00:20:21.720 autonomous woman no you're going I want to actually be in line with under one mission
00:20:29.540 with god the father with christ with my husband and with me and that's really i think a healthier
00:20:35.380 way to look at at submission yeah and just to add another thing um something i wanted to point out
00:20:41.660 is that for the ladies is you're not submitting to your husband because your husband tells you
00:20:46.520 to you're submitting to your husband because god says to you yeah and it's an honor to follow god
00:20:51.820 in this way um and then so moving on that's just a quick point i wanted to make um the last thing
00:20:58.880 we're going to talk about in this episode is modesty. And the Bible calls women to present 0.99
00:21:03.380 themselves modestly. So we're going to go ahead and look at 1 Timothy chapter 2, verse 9 through 10. 0.97
00:21:09.480 And I will go ahead and read it now. In like manner also, that the women adorn themselves
00:21:15.640 in modest apparel with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold pearls or costly
00:21:23.720 clothing girled pearls but which is proper for women professing godliness with good works
00:21:31.160 you did pretty good there and i have braided hair right now
00:21:34.400 yeah well we'll talk about that um no it's it's good um this is a you know again so our
00:21:41.960 structure today is really helper um submission and modesty yeah so we're gonna we'll close with
00:21:48.940 this little section here. This specific passage in 1 Timothy 2, if you would turn to that in
00:21:56.900 like your New King James Bible, it would actually say men and women in the church above this
00:22:03.260 section. So it's the scholars that put together Bibles have recognized, as well as me, have
00:22:09.740 recognized this is talking about how to conduct yourself at church. And I just think that
00:22:19.160 the theme of modesty is throughout the entire Old Testament, New Testament. And I think we can look
00:22:24.780 at how we should conduct ourselves at church and should apply that. We don't have to, but we should
00:22:29.120 apply that probably into like how we dress all the time. And there's plenty of other sections
00:22:33.640 in scripture that talk about modesty that I just didn't choose because I thought this one was easy
00:22:38.240 to go through. But it is specifically directing towards how you should dress at church. But if
00:22:43.420 you're one of these people that goes, oh, I'm going to dress this way at church, but I'm not
00:22:46.560 going to dress this way anywhere else, there's maybe a heart issue with this. The first command
00:22:53.820 in this passage in 1 Timothy 2.9 is to adorn yourself in modest apparel. In other words,
00:23:02.700 you should be looking or not looking to advertise and i think that we live in the yoga pant church
00:23:11.360 place you know like where people are wearing yoga pants and stuff to church now um and like we're
00:23:20.160 from southern california you'd go to church and people would be wearing like crop tops at church
00:23:24.500 with yoga pants and like you're like this is crazy talk we have our friends that that uh are in our
00:23:30.420 church that just came from san diego and and yeah you know the culture is more naked in general and
00:23:37.140 so just the things that they accept at church is just amazing these days um and it's something that
00:23:42.660 we we need to really start paying attention to um you you shouldn't be looking to cause eyes
00:23:50.420 to come toward your body like the getting the eyes of men to draw attraction yeah to draw 0.68
00:23:55.940 attraction to your body a biblical woman uses her clothing to draw attention to her face
00:24:04.500 in terms of just framing her face and i think that's something that that is like a lost art
00:24:11.780 for many women in culture today it's really all about accentuating and creating sensuality 0.99
00:24:17.860 it's not about eloquence it's not about um being an elegant woman or a proper woman or
00:24:25.940 just a modest woman classy classy yeah those words yeah it's it's about sensuality and the
00:24:33.140 right to do so and just that kind of aggressive tone of like i'm gonna dress it's you know like
00:24:39.660 i'm not gonna change me you just don't look at me like that kind of attitude we actually did an
00:24:44.020 entire episode on this and i know this is probably actually part of your notes babe
00:24:47.380 but but you're still in my notes i'm still in your lines here um i'll bring it back up she'll
00:24:52.900 bring it back up yeah um moderation so it says with moderation and propriety i want to talk about
00:24:59.060 moderation means the avoidance of excess or extreme like be moderate in the way that you
00:25:06.080 decorate yourself is what it's saying like don't be extravagant that's not a christian woman thing 0.74
00:25:12.620 to do uh and if you live in the south and you go to these big churches like you absolutely know
00:25:19.000 what extravagant church wear is and it has nothing to do with the Bible and actually is spoken
00:25:24.920 against. Propriety is what is kind of viewed as correct in the culture that you live in. I think
00:25:32.460 it gives you a little bit of freedom here of, you know what, like some of the modesty guidelines
00:25:38.780 are different in Iraq as they are in America. And they're going to be different in Hawaii than they
00:25:45.120 are in Washington state. And so I think it gives you a little bit of freedom, but I also think
00:25:53.200 that it still calls for modesty wherever you're living. When it says not with braided hair or
00:25:59.660 costly clothing, some people take this absolutely literally. And I'm actually a literalist in terms
00:26:07.340 of a lot of scripture. I actually think when you look at the context, you really study this and
00:26:12.740 you understand Paul's other doctrines on these things,
00:26:15.480 that I think Paul's attempting to get his point across,
00:26:18.260 a principle across, and he's using an example.
00:26:22.240 And I think what he's saying is,
00:26:24.560 don't make yourself the center of attention
00:26:26.920 and don't flaunt your wealth, especially at church.
00:26:33.960 Yeah, it's a distraction from the ministry
00:26:38.120 that the Lord and the Holy Spirit wants to take place
00:26:41.140 in the meeting yeah what's the heart behind it is to is it to show off and flaunt what you have and
00:26:48.040 how your beauty no i think instead it should be a heart of going hey you know you don't want to
00:26:53.900 stand out be pretty dress up in terms of just take care of yourself i i don't think this is saying
00:26:59.340 like be like playing jane every day of your life i think it still gives allowance which it's okay
00:27:05.520 if you're playing jane every day yeah veronica's i'm just veronica wears like jeans and a t-shirt
00:27:09.400 every single day that's your perfect perfect setup um but it says instead do what is proper 0.98
00:27:17.860 for godly women who have good works like do what they do look up to these older women who are 0.69
00:27:26.540 classy and elegant and eloquent and do what they do and not just the godly women who say they're
00:27:33.360 godly but the ones that actually are clothed in good works and they're it's evidence that they
00:27:39.140 are actually following the lord faith of that works is dead in terms of um the works that you 0.95
00:27:44.900 see in some of these women's lives are the evidence that they actually love god and um
00:27:49.940 that's how we'll we'll know um and i think he's saying look at godly women and live like them 0.72
00:27:57.620 uh and also in in the way that you dress and learn from them and learn from them yeah so
00:28:02.980 i think here's the problem in the modesty conversation christians are instead of looking
00:28:07.620 to scripture are looking to other christians to determine what's appropriate to wear instead of
00:28:13.300 going to the bible and determining what's appropriate to wear like we don't necessarily
00:28:18.020 get to go and just create what is and is not modest based off of what everybody else does
00:28:26.500 you you get to look at scripture and you get to look at christ's call for how we should live in
00:28:32.180 in all areas as the authoritative factor
00:28:35.620 and not just kind of create a, what is it?
00:28:39.060 Grading on a curve, you know,
00:28:41.040 where you're looking at someone else to find your position.
00:28:43.740 Yeah, the Bible didn't tell us to look at
00:28:45.400 what the church is doing to gauge our morality.
00:28:47.460 It tells us to look at Christ and his word
00:28:49.760 to gauge our morality.
00:28:51.460 Yeah.
00:28:52.300 So I think to wrap this up, 1.00
00:28:53.540 it's important for us ladies to realize 0.83
00:28:55.660 that our choice of clothing is not disconnected
00:28:59.660 to our from our faith meaning clothing has a lot to do with morality and
00:29:05.180 holiness yeah yeah I think about like sacredness the word sacred means
00:29:09.740 connected to God and we just assume as a culture that the way we dress has
00:29:16.100 nothing to do with our faith and I think that's important that you made that
00:29:19.760 point yeah and then lastly again you just said like let's not forget the
00:29:24.220 purpose of our clothing is for what we're trying to cover and not what we're
00:29:28.600 trying to reveal um what you're trying to cover up is your sexuality and yours ours you know women 0.81
00:29:36.200 um and our sexuality is only for one person and that's your spouse of the of the opposite sex
00:29:41.980 um and if you want to learn more about modesty taking dale's note back that he tried to steal
00:29:47.600 from me um we did an entire episode on this topic and i believe it's episode 12 yes um and it's one
00:29:54.560 our more popular podcasts so go ahead and give that one a listen as well and again listen to
00:29:59.600 part one of this episode if you haven't yes yeah give you a lot of context here um and so i think
00:30:05.120 that that's a good way to end in terms of just concluding the conversation we did i think part
00:30:09.120 one part two i think covers a good chunk of ground of what it means to be a biblical woman
00:30:15.360 and you know again christian if you say what it means to be a christian woman
00:30:20.400 um it's pretty easy to interpret that of what the church is doing but when you say biblical
00:30:25.520 you go oh i want to look at what scripture says and walk that out and so uh that will be the end
00:30:31.600 of our part two of the what is a biblical woman and we are next week we'll have part one of what
00:30:38.320 is a biblical man yeah and it's i'm excited for this um i'm going to actually do some more studying
00:30:43.760 i think these things are going to be watched and listened to for you know it's funny we were just
00:30:48.720 watching a video from elizabeth um elizabeth elliott elizabeth elliott was from what 1989.
00:30:55.360 it was the year i was born so yes 1989. and i thought wow these i was like man this video is
00:31:01.040 like being made as i was being born yeah and you think about that and you go she had no idea that
00:31:06.960 this video was going to be watched like 30 years later oh and it's got thousands and thousands of
00:31:12.400 views on it as well and then you look at what she's wearing and you're like man for 1989 that 0.97
00:31:17.760 That is a classy, modest woman right there. 0.77
00:31:20.120 Yeah, totally.
00:31:21.720 And so I just go, we don't know how this could be being viewed 30, 40 years from today.
00:31:28.440 And so, you know, we're excited to talk about what the Bible says about womanhood and manhood.
00:31:35.000 Hopefully this was edifying to you guys and helpful.
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00:32:15.720 There's like a really awesome one you'll share with me.
00:32:18.460 Yeah.
00:32:18.780 And one thing I'd like to also ask you guys to do, this show's been around.
00:32:23.560 We've got episode number 36.
00:32:25.640 Obviously, prior to episode 30, it was called Ultimate Marriage, if you're new here.
00:32:32.400 But we'd also ask you to refer the show to a friend that is maybe struggling with their faith or is looking to deepen their faith.
00:32:41.060 lots of people already do this
00:32:42.960 but I'm just going to ask you directly
00:32:44.360 if you have a friend that you can think of
00:32:46.220 that would benefit from going through this podcast
00:32:49.280 content with them
00:32:51.700 we'd love to have them
00:32:53.020 and it seems to continue to be edifying
00:32:55.600 for many people in the church
00:32:57.040 so on that note
00:32:58.900 we will see you guys next week
00:33:01.200 on our first episode of Biblical Manhood
00:33:03.380 thank you very much
00:33:05.380 see ya
00:33:05.940 see ya guys