Dale Partridge - Real Christianity #41： Why is the Resurrection So Critical？

00:00:00.140 Welcome to Real Christianity. Today we are answering two questions. We're not going to be doing just a regular one-topic show.

00:00:09.200 We're going to be doing two questions. What are we talking about today?

00:00:11.680 Today we're talking about how parents can help choose good friends for their children and Resurrection Sunday.

00:00:17.900 Yeah, so if you're listening to this on Wednesday, which is like real time, this coming Sunday is Easter Sunday.

00:00:23.300 And so I thought that it would be important to talk about resurrection.

00:00:26.120 and then also a mother asked Veronica a question about how to choose good friends for your kids

00:00:31.860 and I think Veronica's got some good wisdom on that that we've learned over the years from

00:00:36.400 our parenting mentors that have taught us a lot a few things before we jump in one is you can

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00:01:04.200 I'm going to let Veronica start today and just dive into this question. I'll start with a question

00:01:09.560 and then you can answer it. Okay. So pretend that I'm talking in a 32-year-old woman's voice.

00:01:16.480 How can a mother wisely put together good friends for her children? 0.98

00:01:21.920 all right so um i'm just going to start with younger children because that's the season that

00:01:28.580 we're in and that's what i'm most comfortable with and what i'm currently exercising yeah um

00:01:34.320 and generally a child's first friends other than their siblings are the children of your own

00:01:40.720 friends um the parents children uh that you're going to be having you know children in general

00:01:46.400 are a reflection of their own parents so they're going to mirror their parents language their

00:01:51.400 behavior and their character so i would say that when you're choosing and examining your child's

00:01:57.960 friends there's a few questions that you should be asking yourself um what is your family's core

00:02:03.840 values and goals for your child um will who they will who they will be hanging out with

00:02:12.000 help move your child towards those goals and values or will they actually hinder or even

00:02:17.560 detour your child um yeah another question is who are you surrounding yourself with because again

00:02:24.080 if you're surrounding yourself with these friends their children are likely going to be around as

00:02:28.380 well around your children um and how are they raising their children i know that um those are

00:02:36.400 a lot of questions that some of our mentors have taught us to ask ourselves and i know that in our

00:02:41.040 close community of friends um us moms have even come together to have an intentional training time

00:02:47.160 And if we know that one of our kids is currently struggling or working through an issue, sharing, yeah, yelling or, you know, being friendly or whatever.

00:02:56.380 Right. If our kids are currently working through an issue and it's something that we've talked about us moms together, we'll set a time to get together for an intentional training purpose to train our kids in those areas.

00:03:07.920 Our kids don't necessarily know that they're there for training.

00:03:11.520 They think that they're just there to play and have a good time.

00:03:13.560 But since the moms have communicated this ahead of time, they are aware and more observant of the situation and how, you know, your goal is to go about it.

00:03:24.220 Well, and I want to mention one thing is like this difference between training and disciplining.

00:03:29.320 Like training is proactive work and disciplining is reactive work.

00:03:34.320 And and yeah, what you're talking about here is this a proactive thing, like getting together and going, hey, Aria is really struggling with, you know, with, you know, let's just the easy example of sharing.

00:03:45.700 She's not really struggling with sharing, but let's just use that as an example.

00:03:48.860 Can we go over there and put some toys in the room?

00:03:50.700 Let's have a conversation and see if they can pass things back and forth and deal with that in whatever manner you want, whatever result you're looking for.

00:03:57.580 Right. Is that kind of what you're what you're talking about?

00:03:59.640 Totally. So having other families around you who are like minded and have similar goals and values is key to help spurring one another on in the parenting journey.

00:04:10.280 um friends like that are and family um are so valuable as as a trusted voice speaking into

00:04:18.520 your child's life um that also happens to align with what you as the parent are teaching them at

00:04:24.920 home so those are some questions i would ask yourself especially with younger kids um yeah

00:04:32.000 i think about i think we heard that study from i don't know who told us but that kids who are

00:04:38.160 raised in community with like-minded adults end up having less rebellious hearts and rebellious

00:04:46.320 activity as they get older because it wasn't just their parents affirming their values but it was

00:04:52.120 coming from different sources of respected people in their lives as well yeah like same affirmation

00:04:57.980 from multiple angles yeah yeah so moving on to kids are are a little bit older i would say many

00:05:04.540 of these principles still apply. You just get to teach your child to ask themselves these questions

00:05:10.160 and teach them how to go to scripture on their own to examine their specific situation with a friend.

00:05:16.580 Some good friends of ours, Angie and Isaac Tolpin, many of you guys have heard us talk about them

00:05:20.160 before. They actually did a whole podcast on this as well over at Courageous Parenting. And when I

00:05:27.160 listened to that podcast, there were a couple of things. There's one area that really stood out to

00:05:34.220 me and it was when Isaac was sharing that they in their house they talk about their you know

00:05:38.700 there's three types of friends there's friends there's friendlies and there's frenemies and

00:05:44.440 because we you know in today's culture with social media especially like we just call everybody our

00:05:49.280 friend like oh my friend so-and-so in California what you you actually never even met them it's

00:05:53.220 just a person you communicate with online but even in person acquaintances everyone just calls

00:05:58.280 are from their friend um but friends are genuine friends who you mesh well with um you have each

00:06:05.160 other's best interests at heart um a friend you are accountable to and vice versa friendlies are

00:06:11.740 more acquaintances um somebody that can turn into a friend um but you know they're more of

00:06:18.360 acquaintances and then frenemies are people you are friendly with but walk contrary to how you live

00:06:26.380 yeah and i think about this like yeah your friends are the people you can like have

00:06:30.900 fellowship with like real deep unified fellowship with um on core values and yeah we all have that

00:06:41.320 group of people um the bible calls for us to to have i mean the one another's there's a hundred

00:06:46.040 one another's in scripture and that's that this you're so close that you can do these things

00:06:50.500 to one another and then that yeah that second category of like yeah i know that person it

00:06:56.140 seems like a nice guy i think we have the same values but we just don't have enough time to

00:06:59.160 become friends yet and then yeah that last group is that these are people that you love as a

00:07:03.800 christian but at the end of the day they actually might not be saved they might walk contrary to the

00:07:10.220 scriptures um you don't hate them but but you could be praying for them yes absolutely yeah

00:07:15.440 um and then another area that i thought of when i was um when i heard this question

00:07:21.860 was also take into account your child your own child's personality and to be honest with yourself

00:07:27.760 are they more of a leader or are they more of a follower um if your child is more of a follower

00:07:33.760 who they hang out with is going to make a huge impact on them yeah um and we even see that in

00:07:39.380 our own children um we have one that's definitely a leader one that's more seems to be a little bit

00:07:44.200 more of a follower um and so i i'm glad that we saw this early on and you know those may change

00:07:51.480 but as of now that's what it looks like um but if you want to hear more on that um i recommend

00:07:56.380 going to check out andrew and isaac's uh tulpan's podcast over at courageous parenting podcast and

00:08:01.860 i believe the episode i'm referencing is called um don't run the parenting race alone um and they

00:08:07.980 get way more in depth on that this topic idea of just if you have a follower child or a it's okay

00:08:13.760 if you're not not everybody's leaders this society just wants to make everybody like what they're not

00:08:18.140 um and at the end of the day yeah we have we have a child who um he's he seems to be more of a

00:08:24.920 follower doesn't mean that he can't lead his family when he's older doesn't mean that he can't

00:08:27.960 um be a leader and at work when he gets older but his just personality is like he's more of a

00:08:32.980 just a little bit more timid than yeah and he wants to come in and support as a support role

00:08:37.820 and not necessarily um a go-getter the way that our daughter has been and so when we pair him up

00:08:43.680 with people he's going to really take on the activities that the other kids are doing where

00:08:49.580 our daughter aria if we put her out there all the other kids are going to take part in the

00:08:55.260 activities that she's doing you know like you're thinking about the same story that i am probably

00:09:00.520 is that you walk into a room there's you know five little girls and aria walks in even if the girls

00:09:06.280 are like much older than her um we come back a half hour later and they're all playing house

00:09:12.980 and aria is the mom and they're all sitting down as the children like that's just how aria is she

00:09:17.920 just puts that she and so we need to be concerned even for other people's kids how our daughter

00:09:23.760 might lead them in that capacity so i think that's a good good point anything else nope okay

00:09:30.860 veronica's stoked because done she's done her talking portion is done um so we're going to

00:09:38.240 talk about uh i'm going to talk about the second question is about the resurrection why is it so

00:09:46.020 important in lieu of you know easter um for those of you that are offended that i called it easter

00:09:51.940 i'll call it resurrection sunday um i'm just kidding but i know some people are really

00:09:56.580 extensive like don't use that word um we don't need to get into the the details about easter

00:10:01.360 that's another podcast i've probably written an article or had an argument about it as well

00:10:05.200 over the years. But I will tell you that the resurrection is critical, and I'm going to tell

00:10:12.260 you why, and I'm going to give you a theological argument for it. And the church is heavily focused

00:10:16.740 on a crucified Christ. I think we have this image of the cross. The Catholic church has kind of

00:10:21.340 really exploded that visual emblem throughout history. But theologically speaking, we're not

00:10:29.420 actually saved from a crucified Christ. We're saved from a resurrected Christ. Now, we need

00:10:34.260 them we need them both we need it all um but the reality is is that like the crucifixion without

00:10:39.880 the resurrection uh isn't it's just it's a dead person on a cross um but the resurrection is

00:10:46.820 critical the resurrection is actually key and i want to tell you why it's so important and why

00:10:52.480 the church has really celebrated and understood and recognized this uh as kind of the linchpin

00:10:58.700 the gospel. If the resurrection doesn't occur, then the whole gospel falls apart. And I'll

00:11:05.640 explain that to you over this next couple minutes. There's three reasons why the resurrection is so

00:11:11.900 critical. And I just want to list them out just to be clear. First, the resurrection is God's

00:11:16.800 validation of Jesus's atonement. I know I'm using big words here, but Jesus didn't raise himself.

00:11:24.940 God raised him from the dead.

00:11:27.100 And he did that as a validation of his, ultimately, his wrath was satisfied.

00:11:34.460 Raising Jesus from the dead is his validation.

00:11:38.240 The wrath of God has been satisfied with the atonement of the Lamb, of the blood of Christ.

00:11:43.100 It was sufficient for covering our sins.

00:11:47.800 It was sufficient to offer forgiveness and restore humanity.

00:11:51.140 So this is like the deeper theological background of it.

00:11:53.960 Um, Romans 5, 9 through 10 says, uh, much more than having now been justified by his blood, we have been saved from the wrath through him.

00:12:05.300 Verse 10, for if we, uh, for if when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his son, much more having been reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

00:12:17.580 Uh, his death and resurrection are so critical because it appeased the wrath of God.

00:12:22.440 There's a word in the Bible. It's propitiation. And it's an important Christian word. And the word is defined as it's the appeasing of the wrath of God through blood sacrifice. And so Jesus is the propitiation of our sins. He's he's literally appeased the wrath of God through his blood. He's made he's paid the price that we couldn't pay on our own.

00:12:48.500 And 2 Corinthians, I don't know exactly which chapter, I think it's maybe chapter 5 off the top of my head.

00:12:57.400 Paul mentions that we have a ministry of reconciliation as Christians.

00:13:00.900 This is what we're here to do.

00:13:02.360 We're here to reconcile, not through us, but through Christ, a rebellious humanity against a loving God or to a loving God.

00:13:12.460 and that's our ministry is to like we've been reconciled so therefore we want to go help other

00:13:17.260 people become reconciled to christ through the blood of christ and through the resurrection of

00:13:22.300 christ um the third thing i want to talk about or i should say the second thing because that was

00:13:28.160 really just the breakdowns of the first the second thing is the resurrection of christ vindicates the

00:13:33.980 events that happened on good friday and so just like what a tragedy because just in itself it was

00:13:41.480 it was wrongfully accused death, like even outside of the whole theological stuff, just

00:13:48.580 he, this innocent man died. And so the going into the theological stuff is that

00:13:56.980 the resurrection vindicates that. It restores back his life. And so that's another cool point

00:14:06.000 I want you to catch real quick.

00:14:07.220 The third thing is that one cannot be saved

00:14:11.600 without the recognition and affirmation

00:14:15.920 of the resurrection of Jesus.

00:14:17.200 And we hear that in Romans 10, 9.

00:14:19.700 It's a pretty famous verse.

00:14:21.500 It says that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus

00:14:24.100 and believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead,

00:14:29.080 you will be saved.

00:14:30.820 And so you can't even become a Christian according to Scripture

00:14:34.620 unless you not just believe in Jesus,

00:14:41.080 not just even making him Lord,

00:14:43.440 but also believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead.

00:14:46.720 So you can't really divorce the resurrection from Christianity right there.

00:14:50.520 It's a critical part to even having faith in Christ.

00:14:54.520 So I want to quickly look at the centerpiece discussion

00:14:57.260 of the resurrection that is found in 1 Corinthians chapter 15.

00:15:02.520 And this is like the crown jewel of the defense of the resurrection.

00:15:08.420 It's written by Paul.

00:15:09.460 It's the end of 1 Corinthians.

00:15:11.520 It's a great apologetic piece of text.

00:15:13.800 I'm going to read it for you guys here.

00:15:15.800 It's verses 3 through 8.

00:15:17.620 It says,

00:15:17.960 For I delivered to you first of all, which I also received,

00:15:21.220 that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures,

00:15:24.780 and that he was buried, so step one, step two,

00:15:27.420 and that he rose again the third day, step three,

00:15:30.420 according to the scriptures,

00:15:31.900 and that he was seen by Cephas, who is Peter, then by the Twelve.

00:15:36.500 After that, he was seen by over 500 brethren, so it's talking about Christians, at once,

00:15:42.900 of whom the greater part are still remaining to the present.

00:15:45.860 Like, they're still alive, go talk to them, when he wrote this.

00:15:49.580 But some have fallen asleep. 0.93

00:15:51.700 The difference between falling asleep and dying or perishing is these are Christians that have died,

00:15:57.720 not Christians, not people who are lost and perished.

00:16:00.240 um last verse it says and after that he was seen by james then by all the apostles uh then last of

00:16:07.880 all he was seen by me also being paul as born as one born out of due time meaning that paul was not

00:16:14.960 born at the same time as the other apostles were again that's first corinthians 15 3 through 8

00:16:20.820 now this is paul's like logical defense for the death and resurrection of christ it's he's

00:16:27.520 defending this to the Corinthians and anybody that's challenging that. There's a concern about

00:16:31.880 resurrection. This is actually a really important topic to understand because it explains a really

00:16:37.960 important gap in Christian history that you got to figure out what's going on here. The gap between

00:16:45.000 what should have been the movement ending death of Jesus and the explosion of Christianity.

00:16:52.300 so you have like the movement ending death of jesus like he's the leader of the movement and he dies

00:16:59.640 what other situation in real life do you ever see the leader of the movement it's not that old i'm

00:17:08.200 talking it's a couple years old right and there's no internet and the leader of the movement dies

00:17:13.460 which should be like the movement ending death of this movement but instead you don't see the

00:17:19.780 death of a movement you see an explosion of the movement um how do you explain that like how do

00:17:25.700 you get there and that's where you got to go in um and this is just good apologetic material

00:17:31.180 the only reason that you could go from death you know of the leader to like a historical eruption

00:17:37.700 of christianity um it literally takes over the roman empire like think about that it becomes

00:17:44.340 eventually the sanctioned religion of rome and rome is actually the one that was taking part in

00:17:50.920 killing in jesus with this with the pharisees so like what an amazing thing to go from we're going 0.97

00:17:56.100 to kill you and now adopt christianity as the entire nation's sanctioned religion right a crazy 0.99

00:18:03.760 thing um the only way something like that could happen have to be something as incredible as like 0.98

00:18:08.600 a resurrection, something, a miracle like that. And that's just one of the gaps. There's a couple

00:18:14.500 other gaps I'll mention quickly. How do you go from a leader dying and then 11 of his 12 followers

00:18:23.020 that he actually knew going and dying for his sake? So he dies and then we're going to go die

00:18:31.660 for him. Well, unless he resurrected, I just find it hard to believe for someone to go like die. 0.98

00:18:36.900 And they didn't just die in a group where like peer pressure or like causal loyalties could really kind of change that environment.

00:18:46.720 These people go, historically speaking, and go die independently and alone without the peer pressure, like in the most terrible ways to die.

00:18:57.960 And so there's just like, you got to look at that and go, why would anybody do that? 0.99

00:19:02.520 And these are not stupid men. 0.80

00:19:04.940 they're writing letters who that which show their their incredible intellect um and so it's not like 1.00

00:19:13.260 they're just idiots that don't know what they're doing and are just taking their own lives or 1.00

00:19:19.020 allowing people to kill them for for no reason because they're just not intellectually wise 1.00

00:19:23.280 enough to recognize the reality that's not what's going on um uh the other thing is how do you get

00:19:28.840 a man like Paul, who again, you know, he's evidently sane. He's written these incredible

00:19:36.460 letters. He's a wise, well-read, well-trained. He's a Pharisee, historically. He hates Christians.

00:19:46.240 He actually holds the coats of those people who are stoning Stephen. Like, he hates Christians. 0.99

00:19:51.420 How do you get this guy to then go and endure all the intense persecution seen in 2 Corinthians?

00:19:57.380 It's like stoning, lashes, shipwrecks, imprisonments, hatred, poverty, right?

00:20:03.640 And then eventually going and giving his, like, being murdered or martyred, I should say, same thing, for his faith.

00:20:11.740 How do you get that to happen?

00:20:12.920 So there's so many gaps you've got to explain if you're not going to believe that Christ resurrected.

00:20:17.160 There's a lot of evidence there.

00:20:19.620 So that's one kind of part I want to talk about.

00:20:21.760 The second part of that scripture in 1 Corinthians I'm going to read to you guys right now.

00:20:25.480 just because I think it's valuable content to defend the resurrection

00:20:32.100 and understand how important the Resurrection Sunday really is

00:20:38.180 in terms of the narrative of Christian theology.

00:20:40.960 So 1 Corinthians 15, 12-19, so just a few verses later,

00:20:44.460 there's a little gap of text that you can read between these two verses.

00:20:47.240 But Paul writes,

00:20:49.600 Now if Christ is preached that he has been raised from the dead,

00:20:53.300 how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?

00:20:57.000 But if there's no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen.

00:21:00.060 And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty.

00:21:04.240 Yes, and we are also found false witnesses of God because we have testified of God

00:21:08.500 that he raised up Christ, whom he did not raise up if in fact the dead do not rise.

00:21:13.420 For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen.

00:21:16.040 And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile.

00:21:18.560 You are still in your sins, exclamation point.

00:21:21.260 Then also those who have all fallen asleep in Christ have perished.

00:21:25.480 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most pitiful.

00:21:30.220 Okay, so this is Paul's, again, breaking down the chain reaction of like,

00:21:35.740 man, if the resurrection is not true, like we got a huge problem.

00:21:40.020 And he gives seven things, and I'm going to just list them off quickly.

00:21:43.880 One, he's like, number one, if there's no resurrection,

00:21:47.060 one, there's no resurrection of the dead if Christ is not risen.

00:21:50.880 And there's no resurrection of Christ if there's no resurrection of the dead because Christ did rise.

00:21:54.740 He's using this logical argument to explain this.

00:21:57.740 Point number two, he says, all of Christian theology for the past 2,000 years is empty and useless.

00:22:03.720 All of the preaching, all of the teaching, all of the writing is empty and useless if Christ did not rise.

00:22:09.220 The third thing, he says, our faith is useless and in vain, which is kind of the same thing.

00:22:17.400 Like, if Christ didn't rise, your faith is totally a waste.

00:22:21.500 There's nothing there.

00:22:22.780 There's no faith in what, is what Paul's saying here. 0.70

00:22:26.080 If Christ did not rise, the apostles are liars.

00:22:29.760 That's what Paul's saying.

00:22:30.680 Like, I'm a liar if Jesus didn't rise.

00:22:34.480 Number five, if the resurrection didn't happen,

00:22:38.520 we are still in our sins and under God's wrath.

00:22:43.060 And we are not justified.

00:22:45.660 and we are not being sanctified

00:22:48.640 and we are totally on our path to damnation.

00:22:54.680 I mean, that's really what this is saying.

00:22:56.720 Again, point number six,

00:22:58.460 if the resurrection didn't happen, 0.98

00:23:00.300 those Christians who have died following Christ, 0.94

00:23:04.840 they're not with the Lord. 0.98

00:23:06.740 They actually have perished and in hell,

00:23:09.540 which is another sad reality

00:23:11.580 if the resurrection is not true.

00:23:12.680 The seventh thing, Paul says, if the resurrection didn't happen, we Christians have terrible lives.

00:23:20.880 We're sitting here sacrificing all these things and dedicating our lives to a theology that's ultimately not real if the resurrection is not true.

00:23:36.960 and um so what i want you guys to walk away with today in the short teaching of the resurrection

00:23:44.140 is that it's the linchpin to the gospel like it's connected man you take the resurrection off

00:23:49.880 and it's all falling apart these seven things they all rise and fall together you know you

00:23:56.960 take that it's like a domino effect resurrection boom then all those things happen is what paul

00:24:01.600 was saying um and if you're around christian debate or if you kind of look at like the tip

00:24:07.520 of the iceberg i should say the bottom of the iceberg where people are really fighting and

00:24:13.140 defending the faith uh you'll actually realize that the enemy knows this he knows how critical

00:24:18.400 the resurrection is and the first place the attack is is often um had um in an argument

00:24:26.840 with like intellectual minds

00:24:29.000 or people that are fighting for defending the faith

00:24:31.480 is in the authenticity of the resurrection.

00:24:34.920 Did that really happen?

00:24:36.280 Because they know if you could take that out,

00:24:38.600 the whole domino thing falls over

00:24:40.940 and Christianity falls apart. 0.97

00:24:43.880 And so they know that you can't deny

00:24:45.740 Jesus's historical existence.

00:24:47.260 There's too much evidence for that.

00:24:48.340 You know that you can't deny his crucifixion.

00:24:50.460 There's actually too much evidence for that.

00:24:53.240 But if you can just bring doubt to the resurrection,

00:24:56.840 That's their aim, that everything starts to fall apart.

00:24:59.540 And so it's a really important part of the Christian theology.

00:25:06.060 And I even say, like, it's the most important part.

00:25:08.680 I think Paul would say that, man, yeah, it's like, without this, nothing else matters.

00:25:15.080 And so we need it all.

00:25:16.740 We need the crucifixion.

00:25:18.380 We need the resurrection.

00:25:20.780 But what I'm saying is that, man, just look at the emphasis that Paul gives here on this argument.

00:25:24.840 So hopefully that helps you guys as you guys are trying to understand your theology for Easter and Resurrection Sunday,

00:25:31.920 whatever you want to call it, and that you can put some more meaning into that

00:25:36.440 and be able to defend the faith in that capacity.

00:25:41.880 So what do you think about that?

00:25:44.880 Sounds great.

00:25:45.760 Okay, Veronica's heard this stuff.

00:25:46.980 We talk about this pretty often.

00:25:48.080 I actually did a message on this at church a few months ago,

00:25:52.560 so it was really nice to reference back to these things so i think that's it for today a shorter

00:25:58.320 show yeah we just answered two questions and um until next week yeah i wish we had more questions

00:26:04.260 we don't have more questions well we had more questions but they're like again they take us

00:26:10.000 you know 10 minutes to answer them yeah we put questions out on the answer like two every

00:26:14.220 question that i got was like deep end of the pool yeah question and i was like oh my gosh i could do

00:26:19.880 a whole episode on these things or series or series of episodes on them so you guys we're

00:26:24.840 working hard um to do that again thank you guys for your prayers uh on me writing i'm just finished

00:26:32.780 the manuscript for real christianity and uh i'm doing the editing process now we're making lots

00:26:38.260 of progress there so we'll give you an update on that as the podcast move forward on that note

00:26:42.900 if you guys last thing would you guys leave a review because i keep forgetting to um say that

00:26:49.620 Actually, I don't.

00:26:50.160 I say that all the time.

00:26:51.380 Yeah, I was like, what?

00:26:52.540 I feel like I hear you say that all the time.

00:26:54.240 But I don't want to forget.

00:26:54.960 If you guys would leave a review, those are really important.

00:26:56.640 At the end of the show is the best time to do it.

00:26:59.380 Okay.

00:27:00.000 Until next time.

00:27:00.800 See ya.

00:27:01.220 See you guys.

Dale Partridge - April 17, 2019

Real Christianity #41： Why is the Resurrection So Critical？

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