Dale Partridge - Real Christianity #50： Why You Can’t Be Pro-Choice and Christian

00:00:00.080 Hello and welcome to Real Christianity. Today we are talking about why you can't be pro-choice and Christian. 0.63

00:00:07.500 We're going to hit it, guys, the conversation about abortion, pro-life.

00:00:13.160 Sadly, there are many in the church that hold a pro-choice view, and we're going to discuss why that is illogical according to the Word of God.

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00:02:28.480 open up on the conversation for us today all right so talking about abortion pro-choice pro-life

00:02:35.920 today um dale and i are pretty passionate about protecting the pre-born um but sadly only 10

00:02:42.640 percent of churches in america have a pro-life program in place um the last i looked i remember

00:02:49.160 i think it was abortion claims the lives of approximately 3 000 babies each day and then

00:02:55.020 that means 60 million babies have been killed since we've actually legalized abortion in america

00:03:00.640 in 1973 yeah and i mean think about this do you ever in our church experience before we

00:03:07.740 left the institutional church to do house church do you ever remember hearing a message on abortion

00:03:13.040 i never heard one and we've been to a several churches uh big churches for several years

00:03:19.620 big churches small churches yeah everything in between wild so yeah what veronica just mentioned

00:03:25.300 right here is 1973 uh was the roe v wade uh court case interesting fact so norma mccorvey who was

00:03:33.440 roe and roe versus wade roe was the one that was fighting to legalize abortion her name is norma

00:03:39.700 McCorvey. And a lot of people don't know this, but Norma became a Christian many years later,

00:03:46.240 1994. She became a Christian. The even crazier thing is that our friends, David and Jason

00:03:53.940 Benham, who are big pro-lifers, their father was involved in this journey of her becoming

00:04:01.320 a Christian. And we met their father, Flip Benham. He was actually the one that baptized

00:04:07.960 Norma McCorvey it was actually like on the cover of a magazine I remember back then anyways Norma

00:04:15.520 was a lesbian you know pro-choice obvious obviously with her girlfriend Connie and they had this

00:04:25.460 pretty liberal progressive opposite of Christianity lifestyle and they accepted Jesus Christ both of

00:04:33.880 them totally changed their entire lives. And she actually said this quote, I am dedicated

00:04:39.180 to spending the rest of my life undoing the law that bears my name. What an incredible story about

00:04:46.680 her being redeemed. And if, if she can be redeemed, then anybody can be redeemed because

00:04:51.240 that's a moment of that weight of, of what that law has done. Yeah. I think even when we went to

00:04:58.800 go visit the benhams about a year and a half ago um i remember flip telling us that story and david

00:05:05.760 and jason were even sharing that yeah that night after she accepted christ david and jason went to

00:05:11.480 her house and moved her out and like we're yeah moved her out of her girlfriend's yeah it was just

00:05:15.620 a really cool house here in person so cool yeah um yeah so many of you have probably noticed that

00:05:21.740 abortion is a hot topic especially in most christian circles even in not christian circles

00:05:27.480 um and a lot of christians are decidedly pro-life um but there are still many christians out there

00:05:35.100 that claim that they're christians claim the name of christ yet they actually identify as pro-choice

00:05:40.500 and uh there's a an additional group of people in the church that would even sit kind of in the

00:05:48.420 middle yeah and they say things like well i would never wish a mother to abort their baby but i'm

00:05:53.480 also not going to make it illegal for her to do so um but ultimately what dale and i are going to

00:05:59.280 discuss today is not only why you can't be a christian and pro-choice but also why you can't

00:06:05.580 simply be anti-abortion and why we must as christians be pro-life yeah so it's a it's a

00:06:12.320 cool distinction there um you know there's a discussion uh you know i forgot the theologian's

00:06:19.920 name from the 1800s but he said it's not enough to merely hate evil or even help hurting people

00:06:26.820 we must stop the things that hurt them and that was in the discussion to ending the slave trade

00:06:33.920 it was saying that hey it's not enough to merely hate the slave trade or to even help the people

00:06:39.340 that it hurts we must stop the things that hurt them and anti-abortion being anti-abortion is

00:06:45.680 hating evil. But pro-life is when that hatred of evil turns into righteous action. There's a

00:06:54.000 difference. It's when people, you know, actively stop the practices and places that abortion 0.62

00:07:00.060 occurs. Pro-life is boots on the ground, hearts on the table in the lives of struggling and

00:07:07.260 expectant mothers. It's praying. It's getting deep. And it's not only fighting with that prayer

00:07:12.860 and that spiritual and that action,

00:07:14.960 but it's also with presence and circumstances

00:07:18.520 or getting into the circumstances of those who are in need.

00:07:21.000 We actually, there's a handful of organizations,

00:07:23.740 Love Life, they're based out of Charlotte,

00:07:26.120 Love Life Charlotte.

00:07:27.040 They do a really good job of integrating pro-life,

00:07:30.700 meaning they're really getting engaged

00:07:32.140 with these women that are in need, pregnant,

00:07:36.220 sometimes low income, meeting their needs 0.79

00:07:38.800 to make it as easy as possible.

00:07:40.880 That's pro-life.

00:07:41.740 It's not just anti-abortion. We're called to be pro-life.

00:07:44.820 We'll kind of discuss that even a little bit more as we continue on the conversation today.

00:07:49.840 Yeah. So before we open up the conversation about if you can be Christian and pro-choice,

00:07:54.160 I want to preface the talk that we're going to have today with a couple of important points as to why this conversation is even important to have for the church.

00:08:02.840 First of all, this is not a political conversation. This is a gospel conversation.

00:08:07.760 we are not to be politically motivated when discussing abortion we are to be gospel motivated

00:08:13.980 when talking about um when talking about abortion um and so many christians forget that politics

00:08:19.660 follow culture so it is our job to change the culture as christians as much as we can um which

00:08:26.060 will result in a change of politics lord willing yeah um second another topic um that i want to

00:08:33.420 hit is abortion has never been about choice. Rather, it's about escaping the consequences

00:08:39.500 of your choices and taking away the choice from God's tiniest children. Yeah. So those are good

00:08:45.200 two preface points that are important. I'm going to say another reason why this is important

00:08:50.000 conversation to have is the prevention of abortion or of an abortion is the prevention of a wall in

00:08:59.800 the path of the gospel. And I want to explain that here. What is the natural inclination of

00:09:06.300 a mother to her baby in a dangerous environment? To protect. Yeah, to protect the baby. What is

00:09:13.540 an abortion? It's literally harming the baby. It's the exact opposite. It literally requires 1.00

00:09:19.900 her to violate her own natural affections. And this causes a great deal of shame and guilt.

00:09:27.620 so your natural inclination mother bear right protect that baby abortion is the exact opposite

00:09:33.460 it's actually psychosis is is really the definition of doing exactly opposite of what

00:09:39.300 you know you're naturally inclined to do um and you know for for a woman ultimately that has this

00:09:47.600 huge weight of shame and guilt now a lot of them people that have had an abortion really try to

00:09:54.740 suppress that. They self-medicate. They jump on board with the pro-choice. Anything they can do

00:10:00.240 to justify their own decision in their own heart. However, in order for a woman who has had an 0.98

00:10:06.660 abortion to receive the gospel, what must she do? She's got to accept the fact that she murdered

00:10:14.840 not just a person, but her own child. And repentance really is the only way out of that

00:10:22.540 shame and guilt and to accept and receive forgiveness and and what a beautiful gift

00:10:27.480 it is especially when you're dealing with the weight of something like abortion now

00:10:32.800 the abortion though itself becomes this massive wall

00:10:38.060 of shame that makes the gospel a more painful moment to experience and I think a lot of people

00:10:47.600 don't even want to just have the conversation of the gospel because of that deep guilt and shame

00:10:52.280 that they must confront.

00:10:54.140 And I think a lot of women who have had abortions,

00:10:56.540 have come to Christ, been forgiven, can attest to that. 0.99

00:11:00.240 Yeah, like they don't feel worthy.

00:11:01.880 They don't feel worthy of the good news.

00:11:03.500 Yes, there's so much there. 0.80

00:11:05.600 And so when we prevent an abortion from happening,

00:11:08.440 we actually remove a huge obstacle in receiving the gospel.

00:11:13.660 And this is what the enemy's doing.

00:11:14.900 He's not just killing babies.

00:11:17.020 The baby, I mean, the murder is horrendous,

00:11:21.380 but the baby's going to heaven the real um i guess victim of the abortion is the mother

00:11:28.300 in terms of we you know sure we know that the baby is the victim i'm not diminishing that but

00:11:33.920 what i am saying is that the person that must live with the consequences is the mother she gets to

00:11:39.580 live with the eternal consequences the earthly consequences and we want to as christians prevent

00:11:46.920 the abortion not just because of not just because of the protecting the baby but also protecting the

00:11:53.780 mother so she could possibly receive the gospel at some point without shame without that kind of

00:11:59.740 weight i should say yeah so how should the church be looking at this and uh how can we as christians

00:12:07.340 help have a better understanding of what the bible actually says about abortion yeah this is a this

00:12:12.980 is a good question. I'm going to walk you guys through just a basic conversation about abortion

00:12:19.360 and Christianity, what the Bible says about this topic. According to Romans 10, 9, it's a really

00:12:26.680 important scripture. Confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has

00:12:32.320 raised him from the dead and you will be saved. That's what it means to be a Christian. That's

00:12:38.300 what the scriptures would say it takes to be a Christian. Now, is there a chance that for a time

00:12:45.380 you believe in Jesus while still holding a carnal and unbiblical view on the topic of abortion?

00:12:54.460 Yes, there has been a variety of topics that I've held an unbiblical view on many years into my

00:13:01.340 walk with Christ. So it is possible to believe in Christ and hold an unbiblical perspective. We

00:13:10.500 agree on that. Sadly, because many churches aren't preaching systematically and faithfully through

00:13:16.140 the Word of God, you know, they're not getting the scriptures to discuss these politically charged

00:13:23.680 issues like abortion. And many Christians go on their faith journey with little opportunity to

00:13:31.780 hear the truth and conform to it. 1 Corinthians, we got to remember, is a letter to Christians

00:13:39.320 who hold several unholy, carnal, and unbiblical perspectives. You know, I've taught on this, 1.00

00:13:46.920 lawsuits they talk about. They talk about incest. They talk about division, idol feasts. There's a

00:13:53.380 whole bunch of things that they believe wrong. The Apostle Paul offers them truth to replace

00:14:00.560 these lies with, and he expects them to renew their minds according to this truth and change

00:14:06.920 their behavior. That's really what the first Corinthians letter is about, obviously with the

00:14:11.700 help of the Holy Spirit. Romans 12.2 is a great scripture. It says, and do not be conformed to

00:14:17.260 this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind that you may prove what is good and

00:14:24.200 acceptable and the perfect will of God. And so that's the journey of the Christian. Now, much

00:14:30.880 of this happens when we're born again. We got to get this renewing of our mind. Second Corinthians

00:14:36.080 says, I forgot the verse, I should have put it down here. If any man be in Christ, he is a new

00:14:40.580 creature, a new creation. Old things have passed away. Behold, all things have become new.

00:14:48.040 And all of a sudden, in this moment of conversion, I think, you know, most can attest to this.

00:14:53.660 We start becoming aware of our sin.

00:14:55.920 The Holy Spirit starts coming in and cleaning the house in our heart, the way we think, the way we act, the way we parent, all these things.

00:15:05.160 And this transformation doesn't happen overnight.

00:15:08.400 It's a journey.

00:15:09.920 I think it's the rest of your lifetime.

00:15:11.700 It is.

00:15:12.740 For the case of abortion, this sanctification process might take months or even years.

00:15:18.460 Sadly, because again, I really think that's a symptom of just not a lot of good teaching on this.

00:15:24.900 And it looks something like this. 1.00

00:15:27.000 An undiscipled and untrained, biblically illiterate Christian allows the culture and peer pressure to sway their opinions and persuade them into holding an ungodly position on a variety of topics like abortion, sexuality, gender, and this is what's happening in the church. 1.00

00:15:49.360 It's fear of man. 1.00

00:15:50.060 It is. It's fear of man.

00:15:51.400 And, however, true biblical Christianity requires us to shed our old ways of thinking, 0.55

00:16:01.440 to die to our carnal desires and ideas that we've held before,

00:16:05.280 to be born again of the Spirit of God that makes us more like Christ.

00:16:10.460 And we begin to start seeing things the way that God sees things instead of the way the world sees things.

00:16:15.000 And the closer we get to Him, the more like Him we become.

00:16:18.160 And the less we agree with the world system.

00:16:20.060 That's what happens in our journey with Christ.

00:16:23.580 That's called sanctification.

00:16:25.860 And now if a person continually refuses to allow the word of God to transform his or her thinking and behavior,

00:16:35.980 especially if they've heard the word of God on the matter of abortion,

00:16:41.960 chances are that he or she is not really a Christian.

00:16:44.920 and romans 8 14 says for as many are as many for as many as are led by the spirit of god

00:16:53.560 these are the sons of god jesus says if you love me you'll keep my commandments john 8 31 through

00:17:00.900 32 says if you abide in my word you are my disciples indeed and you shall know the truth

00:17:06.120 who is jesus and the truth shall set you free first john 2 3 through 6 one of my favorite

00:17:12.140 passage of scriptures by this we know that we know him if we keep his commandments he who says

00:17:18.420 i know him and does not keep his commandments is a liar and the truth again who is jesus

00:17:24.300 is not in him but whoever keeps his word truly the love of god is perfected in him by this we

00:17:31.920 know that we are in him he who says he abides in him ought himself also to walk just as he walked

00:17:40.940 so lots of stuff here of this journey of can you be christian and hold pro-choice yes for a time

00:17:48.940 but ultimately there should be a transformation at some point

00:17:52.200 sanctification taking place yes um yeah so over the years i've heard uh pro-choice advocates even

00:18:00.520 in the church state that the bible does not necessarily address abortion so that so the

00:18:05.560 decision should just be up to the individual yeah just because the word doesn't yeah so while it is

00:18:10.200 true that the term abortion does not appear in the Bible the principles

00:18:14.580 about the value of life are clearly very vividly seen here's just one example

00:18:19.140 from Exodus chapter 21 verse 22 through 23 this is just one passage after the

00:18:24.700 Ten Commandments and it's where God is delivering his laws for how his people

00:18:29.220 should be living it says if men fight and hurt a woman with child so that she

00:18:33.640 gives birth prematurely yet no harm follows he shall surely be punished

00:18:38.000 accordingly as the woman's husband imposes on him and he shall pay as the judges determine

00:18:43.420 but if any harm follows then you shall give life for life well that's a heavy scripture yes so god

00:18:51.700 actually wrote into his law protection for the unborn if a pregnant woman was injured causing

00:18:57.640 her to actually lose her child then the one who caused the injury was to be executed yeah a life

00:19:05.060 for life um is what the passage says so ultimately god considers the life of the unborn just as

00:19:11.660 valuable as that of a grown man or woman yeah it's a really important it's serious i mean in

00:19:18.560 the fact that god put that into the law um it makes people what be very careful around pregnant

00:19:27.280 women something happens to that baby one you're going to get imposed by the husband of that woman

00:19:34.160 second you might owe money if something wrong even if nothing happens to the life of that child

00:19:39.660 third if you're like in debt to that to that family yeah third if something does happen to

00:19:45.380 that child you could die and so it's again thinking and it's so funny our current laws if

00:19:51.480 a pregnant woman is killed it's considered a double homicide yet we don't call the baby in

00:19:58.540 the womb a baby when it comes to abortion it makes no sense um and this narrative that veronica's

00:20:05.740 just the value of life is throughout the scriptures and it continues god said to jeremiah

00:20:12.920 before i formed you in the womb i knew you and before you were born i consecrated you uh psalm

00:20:19.760 139 13 through 16 gives us a really clear picture of god's viewpoint on the unborn and it's david

00:20:28.520 And he writes, for you formed my inward parts.

00:20:32.500 You wove me in my mother's womb.

00:20:35.280 I will give thanks to you for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.

00:20:38.440 My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in secret.

00:20:41.780 Your eyes have seen my unformed substance.

00:20:44.740 And in your book were all written the days that were ordained for me before one of them came to be.

00:20:51.600 So there's just this constant theme of life in the womb that continues on.

00:20:58.520 Luke 141 is another important scripture

00:21:01.940 Shows that the entity inside the womb is a baby

00:21:05.820 And it says 0.80

00:21:07.220 And it happened when Elizabeth heard that the greeting of Mary

00:21:10.680 Or heard the greeting of Mary

00:21:12.660 The baby leaped in her womb

00:21:14.720 And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit 0.98

00:21:17.760 And so it wasn't the fetus

00:21:20.620 Or it wasn't the clump of cells 0.73

00:21:23.020 It was the baby leaped in the mother's womb

00:21:26.880 A few verses earlier in Luke 1.15, we see that in the womb, John the Baptist was his own entity. 0.59

00:21:34.800 He was his own person, separate from his mother.

00:21:37.800 He's not a part of the mother. He's got his own body.

00:21:40.660 It says,

00:21:41.420 For he will be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink.

00:21:46.740 He will be also filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb.

00:21:51.020 Meaning that he'll be filled with the Holy Spirit separately from his mother in the womb of his mother.

00:21:56.240 which is again it's just a small point but just he's separate from his mother yeah another

00:22:02.600 interesting point is that when you look throughout the scriptures how does god bring deliverance

00:22:08.700 through a baby right this is what happens with moses with samuel john the baptist and jesus

00:22:16.180 and what happened when moses was born pharaoh ordered the babies to be killed yep and then

00:22:22.840 what happened when jesus was born yeah herod ordered the babies to be killed um when god

00:22:28.320 plans for deliverance you better believe that satan is going to be trying to plan for destruction

00:22:32.820 yeah so there's just always a fight for birth and it's the same old deal right now you know we want 0.82

00:22:39.700 to kill the babies because there's the what is the lord doing in the world man he's he's making

00:22:44.360 more babies you know babies are the next generation of humanity they are the bearers of god god's 0.99

00:22:50.180 image. And that's what the fight's all about, is that this is the enemy's attack on God's image.

00:22:56.740 And so getting back to the kind of church discussion and the reality of pro-choice

00:23:02.360 Christians, again, some of them might just not be sanctified in this truth quite yet. Maybe this

00:23:06.880 podcast will be a part of that sanctification process. Some people might actually not want

00:23:13.880 to conform, and they're calling themselves Christians, but in reality, probably are not.

00:23:18.700 Online, I actually get a lot of Christians or I'll see Christians that say things like,

00:23:24.100 I hate abortion, but support a woman's right to choose.

00:23:27.280 You know, kind of the same thing that you mentioned earlier. 0.82

00:23:29.560 That's called being lukewarm.

00:23:31.040 Yeah.

00:23:31.600 So this makes as much sense of saying that you personally hate rape, but you support

00:23:36.660 a man's right to commit it. 0.99

00:23:38.320 I mean, it's ridiculous. 1.00

00:23:39.920 It's a terrible argument. 0.98

00:23:41.040 The idea sounds level-headed and fair to the untrained mind.

00:23:47.880 But underneath, that statement is in direct conflict with God's law, moral law, and scriptures.

00:23:54.940 I've also heard pro-choice Christians advocate the state.

00:23:59.280 They say something like their position is more compassionate

00:24:03.400 and that pro-lifers don't really care about the mother and the child.

00:24:09.240 And one, I want to say this is just another illogical argument.

00:24:12.600 It's a distraction to what's really going on.

00:24:15.600 the idea that we should be compassionate toward what God abhors is irrelevant.

00:24:22.720 Ultimately, whether pro-lifers care about the mother and the child or not doesn't really matter.

00:24:29.700 We should care, but it doesn't really matter.

00:24:32.380 And I'll give you another example.

00:24:33.540 We're not called to care about the needs of the robber when he held the bank teller at gunpoint.

00:24:40.000 We're against robbery regardless of the robber's needs.

00:24:43.140 regardless of the state of the bank. 0.99

00:24:47.300 The same is true with abortion. 0.79

00:24:51.560 Ultimately, the Bible's clear.

00:24:54.300 Since God is the creator of human life,

00:24:57.020 only he can determine who lives or dies.

00:25:01.620 We can't take life because we can't restore life.

00:25:04.940 We can't take life because we don't create life.

00:25:08.720 And every person who claims the name of Christ

00:25:11.900 has the obligation to make certain his or her views line up with his word. That's what

00:25:17.880 sanctification is. We are becoming unified with God's viewpoint on life and morality.

00:25:24.800 And is it possible for a born-again Christian to be pro-choice? And again, as I said, yes,

00:25:32.560 for a time. Is it likely that person will remain pro-choice? No. And if she does,

00:25:39.420 or he or she does remain pro-choice, 0.79

00:25:43.180 then they're probably not a Christian.

00:25:46.840 They don't understand the word of God. 0.94

00:25:49.240 They don't want to be unified or yield

00:25:51.820 to God's wisdom and moral law.

00:25:54.840 And again, we need to take patience.

00:25:58.460 And sometimes we just need to present an apologetic,

00:26:01.240 a defense for this.

00:26:03.260 There is a huge amount of propaganda

00:26:07.540 propaganda coming from the culture into the church. And we know that the church is influenced

00:26:14.060 more by the culture than the culture is by the church. Which is sad. It shouldn't be that way.

00:26:19.760 It shouldn't be that way. But so just because someone says that, don't just write them off.

00:26:26.360 Just say, hey, can we just talk about this? Let's look at the scriptures. Do you believe in the word

00:26:30.580 of God? And if you can get them to say, yeah, I do believe in the word of God, then you can walk

00:26:35.220 them through the apologetic

00:26:36.900 scriptural narrative and help

00:26:39.100 bring them to a truth in which

00:26:41.060 they can conform to.

00:26:43.860 I'll close with this.

00:26:47.220 Can you think of one place

00:26:49.000 that for certain

00:26:51.040 between the hours of 9 a.m. and 5 p.m.

00:26:53.880 Monday through Friday 0.60

00:26:54.660 that a person is going to be dismembered, killed 0.76

00:26:57.240 and their organs harvested for money?

00:27:00.000 Can you think of a place

00:27:01.120 that does that?

00:27:03.020 I know of a place that's not just a few miles from our house,

00:27:06.300 and I'm sure you have one not that far from your house as well.

00:27:10.220 But there's only one place in America where we know that,

00:27:14.720 like at a certain time and a certain schedule, that murders take place.

00:27:19.320 And that's the abortion clinic.

00:27:22.620 And when you put it in that perspective, it kind of changes our hearts about it.

00:27:28.360 I'm going to read you a scripture. It's from Proverbs.

00:27:30.300 it's proverbs 24 10 through 12 and may the holy spirit do whatever it does to your heart

00:27:38.440 and actions it says if you faint in the day of adversity your strength is small

00:27:44.560 rescue those who are being taken away to death hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter

00:27:51.600 if you say behold we did not know this does not he capital h does not he who weighs the heart

00:27:59.480 perceive it? Does not he who keeps watch over your soul know it? And will he not repay man

00:28:06.020 according to his work? We have a call to not just believe in God's righteousness,

00:28:16.360 but to be ambassadors, representatives of God's righteousness here on earth.

00:28:22.200 and um we know there's i think it's edmund burke's quote and says all that it takes for evil to

00:28:30.820 prevail is for good men to stand by and do nothing and so passivity is something that we

00:28:37.100 you know we have to remember people that there are christians on the other side of the world

00:28:42.480 around the world that are dying for their faith yet we are unwilling to have a heated conversation

00:28:50.740 on our Instagram comment feed.

00:28:53.380 We are unwilling to present the truth of God

00:28:56.760 about the lives of children

00:28:58.600 in a basic conversation with friends over coffee.

00:29:02.760 Are you willing to pay the price to follow Christ?

00:29:06.400 And abortion happens to be one of those issues of today.

00:29:10.000 And I want to encourage you guys to stand up,

00:29:14.160 to do it in love,

00:29:16.500 to do it with an intellectual and trained

00:29:20.080 and ready argument

00:29:21.400 through the power

00:29:22.880 of the Holy Spirit.

00:29:24.820 And may God be with you

00:29:28.020 in that journey.

00:29:32.280 I guess a couple of notes

00:29:33.240 that we'll say

00:29:33.580 before we close out

00:29:34.280 is we have show notes,

00:29:35.920 again, available for you.

00:29:37.420 A lot of these scriptures

00:29:38.240 you might want to use

00:29:39.360 in your study

00:29:40.160 of the topic of abortion.

00:29:42.100 If you want to do that,

00:29:43.000 you go to relearnchurch.org

00:29:44.420 forward slash listen

00:29:45.920 and you can find

00:29:46.760 this episode on abortion

00:29:47.700 and we'll have all that

00:29:49.420 available for you there um and uh again you guys can always listen to this episode in a variety

00:29:56.020 of different places we'd love to have you guys watch the video as well on that note do you have

00:30:01.340 anything else to say no i think that was i think we covered a lot of ground okay it's a heavy

00:30:06.280 conversation it's a heavy conversation we can go into much more depth and detail but we just

00:30:09.940 don't have time for it today yeah on that note guys we will see you next week thanks for listening

Dale Partridge - June 19, 2019

Real Christianity #50： Why You Can’t Be Pro-Choice and Christian

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