Dale Partridge - Real Christianity #62： The Missing Element of Modern Christianity

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Real Christianity. Today, we are talking about the missing element of modern Christianity. 0.80

00:00:07.020 Yeah, guys, I used to think that the missing element of modern Christianity was community.

00:00:13.440 I think that if we just, you know, had community, that we would finally see Jesus in a way that we had before.

00:00:21.520 And then before that, I thought, hey, it was missions. That was the missing element.

00:00:25.500 If we just did more outreach to the broken and to the lost, then, yeah, man, you know, then more people would see Jesus.

00:00:35.300 And, you know, there's something that I found in my study that's deeper than these two elements that is preventing the world from not seeing Jesus.

00:00:47.020 And I believe it's a missing element to modern Christianity.

00:00:51.220 And I think it's what makes Christianity feel dull and oftentimes flat. 0.80

00:00:57.360 That's what we're going to be talking about in today's episode. 1.00

00:01:00.220 Yeah, but before we jump into that, I know you guys have probably heard on the last few episodes,

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00:01:20.660 Um, and really great questions just to go through with one another to help bring more unity, um,

00:01:27.300 into a marriage. And so if you're interested in that, you can go ahead and sign up at

00:01:30.100 ultimate marriage.com. Yeah. It's a really great program. If you just need to strengthen your

00:01:34.860 marriage, want to invest in your marriage, guys, we are so excited. At least go to the

00:01:40.000 ultimate marriage.com and check it out, uh, or consider doing it with your small group.

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00:02:24.480 Trust me, I've done it several times when I was editing it. But guys, it's a great way to support

00:02:29.300 our ministry, as well as getting a great, I think, tool to understand what biblical Christianity

00:02:37.140 really is and how to represent Christ. So again, if you want to pre-order the book,

00:02:41.660 um you can go to relearnchurch.org forward slash rc okay dale so hopping back into the topic of

00:02:51.800 this week's episode um what is the missing element that you're talking about what is the um the cause

00:02:57.600 of what you have called flat christianity all right guys brace yourself because i'm about to

00:03:02.220 give you a pretty anticlimactic answer okay um and i know that was the opposite of what you were

00:03:07.920 thinking but it's personal holiness okay personal holiness is i think what's missing in the modern

00:03:16.080 church especially the western church and i want to explain because i really do believe that i put

00:03:21.620 together a pretty strong biblical argument for why holiness is so critical in evangelism in the

00:03:28.120 gospel, in discipleship, in maturity, and I think it's a really important discipline

00:03:36.300 and element of Christianity that we're kind of unfamiliar with. And so, personal holiness,

00:03:43.620 I'm going to kind of break this down for a second, and then we're going to dive into some scriptures

00:03:46.560 later in this episode. Personal holiness is the evidence of God on a person, okay? I want you to

00:03:53.720 hear that, please pay attention. Personal holiness is the evidence of God upon a person. And it's the

00:04:01.120 walking and talking and breathing transformative, supernatural power of the cross pouring out in

00:04:08.520 somebody's life. That's what personal holiness is. If someone claims to be a Christian and they,

00:04:15.640 you know they're not exhibiting or presenting the a peculiar life or a holy life or a different 1.00

00:04:24.680 life yeah they look just like the rest of the world if they look just like the rest of the

00:04:28.420 world why would anybody be interested in coming to christ for any other reason right i mean it's

00:04:35.580 just not compelling and if christ has not changed you if you're still behaving the exact same way

00:04:43.860 you did before you encountered Christ,

00:04:46.360 then why should somebody believe that it would change them?

00:04:50.600 And, you know, I'm going to break this down a little bit more.

00:04:53.280 When an addict stops doing drugs, that's holiness.

00:04:59.780 When they're no longer a slave to drugs, that's holiness.

00:05:03.740 When a man no longer looks at pornography,

00:05:08.780 when 98% of men, secular men, look at pornography on a regular basis,

00:05:13.860 When a man stops looking at pornography, that's holiness.

00:05:19.260 That's the transformative power of God upon a person.

00:05:24.300 You know, when a person returns love for hate, that's holiness.

00:05:30.640 When a wife protects her husband's reputation, even when he fails, that's holiness. 0.71

00:05:37.500 When a man stands for truth that costs him his job, that's holiness. 0.83

00:05:43.860 When a young man refuses to have sex before he's married, that's holiness. 0.97

00:05:49.500 When a young woman decides to wear modest clothing for the love of others, that's holiness. 0.95

00:05:58.140 Okay, holiness, guys, is the real-life testimony of God's miraculous work in your life. 0.52

00:06:06.180 It's the changing of affections, the changing of inclinations, the changing of behaviors that is impossible without Christ.

00:06:16.900 It's a love for godly things instead of a love for sin.

00:06:21.520 And everybody that's trapped in sin sees that and goes, how do you do that?

00:06:26.440 How do you break free? Why are you so different?

00:06:28.460 this is an incredibly powerful proof of god in the church when you can walk in personal holiness

00:06:39.180 yeah so um first before we dive in even more um dale and i just want to be clear that we have no

00:06:46.520 desire to make holiness an idol um holiness is not christ and we know that um and as dale said

00:06:53.340 we believe holiness is the evidence of God's work in the life of a believer.

00:06:58.080 And holiness is not about earning our righteousness through what we've done.

00:07:03.560 It's about showing our righteousness because of what he's done,

00:07:07.160 what he's done inside of us.

00:07:08.660 And it's not legalism.

00:07:10.880 It's just basic obedience.

00:07:13.520 Holiness is not to be a work motivated by a law.

00:07:18.520 It's a response motivated by love.

00:07:21.380 Yeah.

00:07:21.980 Say that again.

00:07:22.540 holiness is not a work motivated by law it's a response motivated by love

00:07:29.680 yeah holiness is really just the natural response of somebody that's being redeemed

00:07:36.540 if you're not becoming more like christ who is holy uh that's a problem right this is the natural

00:07:46.140 response is personal holiness when you encounter jesus christ it's going to happen all throughout

00:07:50.040 your lifetime yes with your journey with the lord um so let's back it up a little bit um so

00:07:55.560 what is holiness well um according to the dictionary it means to be set apart but the way

00:08:01.600 that i have viewed it is to be utterly unique um because god god is holy because there's no one like

00:08:10.720 him um he is utterly unique now this also means he is pure and without sin he is perfect um again

00:08:19.980 making him unique and of course holy um and as christians we first experience holy when we're

00:08:28.160 saved yeah we become holy in this process being set apart right yeah because we're set apart or

00:08:34.180 sealed as uh they call it in the book of ephesians um but the bible's call for holiness

00:08:40.100 reaches far beyond our justification um the bible calls us to death to be born again and to be

00:08:47.560 regenerated to be renewed and to walk in a manner worthy of your calling yeah so there's the idea

00:08:54.720 of holiness is you're set apart you're different you're utterly unique and step one is that when

00:09:01.920 you come to christ you're you're justified you're saved there's a difference between sanctified

00:09:08.320 which we'll talk about in a bit um but but you're justified you're set apart you you are

00:09:13.280 initiating the process of becoming holy and then as you said here the bible calls us to to death

00:09:21.660 and then to be born again and then to be regenerated and be renewed and then to walk

00:09:27.080 in a certain manner right um and i think that the major cause of the church's deficiency in

00:09:33.920 personal holiness is that when most christians came to christ they never truly died when they

00:09:40.380 came to Christ's altar, they never truly died. And they believe in Christ. They even want a

00:09:48.200 partial relationship of some form with Christ, but they're still very much living in their own

00:09:54.220 will. And I want you to examine yourself against these words right now. Okay, death, spiritual,

00:10:01.040 uh the call to die in terms of dying to the flesh um that death is the door to holiness

00:10:09.700 to becoming more like christ it's the initiation of your relationship with christ this is again

00:10:16.100 why we are called to be born again and you know many of you have come to faith through what the

00:10:21.480 church has called an altar call we've heard that you know there's an altar call at the end of the

00:10:26.120 service where people can come forward. And an important part to explain here is that an altar

00:10:32.640 is a place of sacrifice. It's a place that you go to die. In the Old Testament,

00:10:38.680 an altar was a stack of stones. In the New Testament, the altar was a cross. Okay, Jesus

00:10:45.920 was sacrificed as, you know, for the atonement of our sins on that altar, which was a cross.

00:10:55.280 And Jesus tells us to pick up that cross daily, to pick up that altar daily and die and let it continue to do its deadly work in our lives.

00:11:09.620 And again, this is why Jesus calls us to be born again, because we have to die in the flesh to be made alive in the spirit.

00:11:18.340 This is also why Paul wrote Galatians 2.20.

00:11:20.740 This is a verse that everybody should consider memorizing.

00:11:24.220 It's a great verse. It's Paul, and he writes,

00:11:27.560 I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me.

00:11:33.760 And the life which I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God,

00:11:37.820 who loved me and gave himself up for me.

00:11:41.480 If you struggle to understand this, it's probably because you haven't fully died.

00:11:47.440 And I'm going to say all of us are on this journey of picking up that cross.

00:11:52.500 but really relinquishing the authority of your life

00:11:57.080 and your own will to the Lord

00:11:58.920 is what this is talking about.

00:12:01.120 And so have you died?

00:12:02.380 Are you becoming holy

00:12:03.980 because it's no longer you who live

00:12:06.560 but Christ who lives in you?

00:12:08.960 This is important questions,

00:12:11.020 an important question to ask.

00:12:12.740 The kingdom of self

00:12:13.980 is heavily defended territory.

00:12:17.900 We don't want to pick up that cross.

00:12:20.500 We don't want to die in our flesh.

00:12:24.080 Galatians 5.17 says that there's a war.

00:12:27.640 It says,

00:12:28.640 For the flesh wars against the spirit, and the spirit wars against the flesh.

00:12:32.360 And these are contrary to one another to keep you from doing the things that you wish.

00:12:37.120 Man, like there's a war going on constantly.

00:12:41.220 So the cost of Christianity is nothing less than everything. 0.61

00:12:47.500 That's really what Jesus wants.

00:12:49.200 He wants everything.

00:12:51.520 And again, this is the front door to holiness,

00:12:54.040 to making room for him because you're no longer there.

00:12:58.920 And it doesn't happen overnight.

00:13:01.160 It is a process, but there must be a desire for it to happen.

00:13:06.800 And it's not something that you muster up either.

00:13:09.560 It's not something you just discipline yourself to become more holy on your own strength.

00:13:13.960 It's something that you lay on the ground and you get before the Lord.

00:13:17.260 You go, Father, fill me with your Holy Spirit.

00:13:19.520 Give me this strength.

00:13:23.100 Fill me with you so that I can understand your truth.

00:13:26.940 Pour out of me your will.

00:13:30.360 Let me remove myself and put you in my place.

00:13:35.080 Give me a hunger.

00:13:36.380 Give me a desire.

00:13:37.520 Those are really important prayers to ask.

00:13:40.280 Yeah, so this process that Dale's talking about, 0.67

00:13:43.300 the picking up of your cross, dying to your flesh,

00:13:45.660 walking in the spirit is called sanctification and sanctification is literally defined as the

00:13:50.960 process of being made or becoming holy and again like we said earlier this is going to be a lifelong

00:13:57.220 journey with your walk with christ um you're always hopefully being sanctified more and more

00:14:03.280 um but you need to ask yourself are you being sanctified by god's spirit are you being convicted

00:14:09.200 of your sin are you being purified by his word am i becoming more like christ these are the

00:14:15.200 questions that we should be asking ourselves fairly frequently yes and as you guys know we're

00:14:22.080 very focused on scripture in this show and we don't ever want to offer our opinions without

00:14:28.720 backing them up with the bible so we're going to go over a few scriptures that discuss this call

00:14:33.940 for personal holiness in the life of the believer and we're going to start with first peter chapter

00:14:39.280 1 verses 14 through 16 and this is going to be in the ESV as obedient children do not be conformed

00:14:45.880 to the passions of your former ignorance but as he who called you is holy you also be holy in all

00:14:52.100 your conduct since it is written you shall be holy for I am holy okay Peter got this right he

00:14:58.500 really understood this one he opens up with as obedient children he's assuming obedience so

00:15:06.720 people, Peter's talking to you. If you're a Christian, are you obedient? First thing, right?

00:15:13.640 He's talking to you as obedient children. Do not be conformed to the passions of your former

00:15:20.960 ignorance. Whatever you liked pre-Christ, whatever you talked about pre-Christ, whatever you loved

00:15:27.100 pre-Christ, whatever you did pre-Christ, don't go back to that, is what he's saying.

00:15:33.760 but as he who called you is holy you also be holy in all of your conduct you don't get to have the

00:15:44.700 secret truce with some sin over here in the corner that you get to kind of have a private

00:15:50.340 you know relationship with because it's not that bad because it's not that bad all your conduct

00:15:56.500 gets to be made holy and he says since it is written you shall be holy for i am holy he's

00:16:05.120 referencing the old testament there and the words of the lord and so i think this this verse is

00:16:10.660 actually strikingly similar to romans 12 2 you guys know this verse and do not be conformed to

00:16:14.480 this world but be transformed by the by the renewing of your mind that you may prove what

00:16:18.440 is good what is the good and acceptable and perfect will of god um so there's this process

00:16:25.300 again of becoming becoming becoming it's sanctification as veronica said um the second

00:16:31.660 thing i want to point out is that god doesn't command us to do things that we're incapable of

00:16:37.960 doing and he commands us to be holy because we can be holy and he wants us to be holy so that's

00:16:45.720 important uh an important point now sin doesn't happen to you we choose it the same thing is true

00:16:52.080 with holiness holiness doesn't happen to you we choose it in some capacity now I know there's a

00:16:57.580 process of behavior modification and there's a process of spiritual outpouring but it happens

00:17:04.000 it's a it's a symbiotic relationship between God's sovereignty and man's responsibility

00:17:09.960 it's a really important thing to understand so another point I want to make is is do you

00:17:19.220 actually pursue holiness as passionately as you pursued sin prior to coming to christ that's a

00:17:27.520 massive question are you pursuing holiness with the same passion and uh industry just the desire

00:17:36.300 that you're working that you did for sin prior to coming to christ um is your desire for god

00:17:43.720 outpacing your desire for sin and the things of this world.

00:17:48.460 And if it's not, if you're still struggling with looking at pornography 0.53

00:17:52.180 and having sex with your boyfriend and getting drunk on the weekends

00:17:55.280 and speaking poorly about people and using foul language 0.97

00:17:58.980 and whatever other marks of the world are just on you still,

00:18:03.280 you need to get before the Lord and go, God, purify me.

00:18:07.340 Clean me out.

00:18:08.160 Bring conviction upon me, deep conviction, and rip that out of me.

00:18:13.220 Because when people see that and you call yourself a Christian, they go, oh, cool.

00:18:18.040 I don't want that Christ.

00:18:18.860 There's nothing different about that guy.

00:18:20.780 But when you're different and you're loving and the marks of the fruit of the spirit are laying upon you, people see Christ.

00:18:29.780 People see Christ.

00:18:30.520 I would say even worse, they see that on you.

00:18:33.620 And if you're a more mature believer, been a believer longer, it actually influences them.

00:18:38.000 And they're like, oh, I can be a Christian and do that too.

00:18:40.280 and you're actually putting off a false representation of Christ.

00:18:44.800 Yeah, I've talked to mature Christians,

00:18:47.560 people that have called themselves pastors, 0.96

00:18:49.360 and they're using, you know, weird language,

00:18:53.880 borderline foul language on the phone with me or in conversation.

00:18:58.440 I go, man, you're a pastor.

00:19:01.440 People are looking to you as your example 0.86

00:19:04.160 to modify their faith to look like yours.

00:19:08.540 and that's that's a very important point that she made there so um dale found this quote that he

00:19:16.140 shared with me the other day um by in the 1800s theologian jc ryle and you kind of touched on

00:19:22.860 you know you shared a little bit of his quote earlier in the show yep um but he wrote an

00:19:27.240 incredible book called holiness and he says holiness will cost a man his sins he must be

00:19:32.320 willing to give up every habit and practice which is wrong in god's sight there must be no separate

00:19:37.900 truths with any special sin, which he loves. Sadly, our sins are often dear to us as our

00:19:44.080 children. We love them. We hug them, cleave to them, delight in them. And to part with them

00:19:50.380 is as hard as cutting off your right hand or plucking out your right eye. But as the scriptures

00:19:56.360 instruct, it must be done. The parting must come. I want to just stop there for a quick second.

00:20:02.220 I love how he brought the connection where Jesus says, hey, if the sin makes you stumble that way, 0.73

00:20:06.380 then cut off your right hand, pluck out your right eye.

00:20:08.980 Jesus is going, hey, go to the full extreme. 0.99

00:20:11.620 I know you love it.

00:20:12.760 I know you love your sin. 0.58

00:20:14.480 Get rid of it. 0.95

00:20:15.980 Get rid of it.

00:20:16.900 Be holy as I am holy.

00:20:19.080 So good.

00:20:20.260 So the next verse that we're going to be jumping into is Hebrews chapter 12, verse 14, and

00:20:24.380 it reads, pursue peace with all people and holiness without which no one will see the

00:20:29.900 Lord.

00:20:31.460 Yeah, so I'm going to break this verse down.

00:20:34.420 i was studying this verse i was looking for verses on holiness um i just got done reading

00:20:41.620 part of that book that veronica just mentioned it's it's called holiness uh by jc ryle written

00:20:47.880 the 1800s and i looked up this verse and someone used this verse i think incorrectly but it was

00:20:57.520 listed in the holiness scriptures they were explaining it in an incorrect interpretation

00:21:01.640 in my understanding. And I was just praying over this verse, and I felt like the Lord revealed to

00:21:06.500 me kind of what I was already putting together about this show. And I then looked at some

00:21:12.820 commentaries to make sure that my interpretation was correct, and I found several trusted theologians

00:21:19.340 with the same interpretation, which always brings me peace when I'm teaching. So I'm going to read

00:21:25.200 this verse one more time it's hebrews 12 4 14 it says pursue peace with all people and holiness

00:21:32.500 comma without which no one will see the lord okay i want to explain something here let's just say

00:21:40.520 that you walked into a room and on the room there's this huge wall and on that wall there was a

00:21:45.200 thousand gray dots now of those thousand gray dots there's one dot that is yellow

00:21:55.280 okay so i guess there's 999 gray dots and one yellow dot which dot is your eye going to notice

00:22:04.600 the yellow one and that's interesting because scientifically the human mind is only or is

00:22:12.640 designed only to notice what is different. We do this all the time. Just think about

00:22:18.820 marketing. The goal is to look different, right? To be radically different. If you look at a child

00:22:26.060 and they walk across the carpet of a huge room and the carpet looks all the same,

00:22:33.640 but there's a coin in the middle of the room on the floor, what is the kid going to do?

00:22:39.100 They're going to notice that coin and they're going to pick it up and probably put it in their

00:22:41.960 mouth, but they notice what's different. And that's important because the apostle is telling

00:22:47.800 us that peace and holiness is the illumination. Okay. It's, it's bringing notice. Um, it's the

00:22:58.960 illumination of Christ in what I would call a chaotic and a dark world. And so just like we

00:23:05.040 see in the Old Testament, holiness was the means by which God's people were identified by the other

00:23:12.220 nations. In a sea of gray dot nations, Israel was this yellow dot. They looked different. They ate

00:23:21.200 different. They dressed different. They worked different. They rest different. They did everything

00:23:26.120 differently. They had a different triune God. Okay. Their God floated over them in a cloud.

00:23:36.480 Okay. Just everything was different than the other nations. And they were a set apart people. 1.00

00:23:44.320 So when he says, pursue peace with all people and a holiness without which no one will see the Lord.

00:23:50.800 It's my point that I made in the opening of this podcast is that if you don't have holiness,

00:23:55.220 people aren't going to see the Lord.

00:23:57.580 And when you want to know why the church is so flat and dull

00:24:01.340 is because there's no supernatural transformative power on anybody.

00:24:06.220 Because everybody's still looking like the world and acting like the world

00:24:09.520 and spending money like the world and in debt like the world

00:24:12.740 and looking porn like the world and getting divorces like the world

00:24:15.880 and putting their kids where other people in the world put their kids.

00:24:18.800 And there's nothing different.

00:24:21.560 We look like the world in so many instances.

00:24:25.220 is. And so, you know, we're to pursue holiness. This is what this passage talks is. We're not

00:24:31.480 only in our behavior modification, but also, again, asking God's supernatural power.

00:24:37.160 And so, the bottom line is this, guys. When the church is holy, it's like a city on a hill.

00:24:44.260 That's really what it is. It's like a city. It's like a glowing city on the hill. You can't help

00:24:49.500 but notice it. And like a lighthouse on the sea. When you're on the sea, you just see it.

00:24:55.220 That's what the church needs to be.

00:24:58.020 And people notice it.

00:24:59.360 It's unique.

00:25:00.220 It drives curiosity.

00:25:03.340 Okay, it's not its ability to save.

00:25:06.040 Holiness isn't going to save anybody.

00:25:08.620 The gospel is the only thing that can save.

00:25:11.480 But it does demonstrate the power of the gospel.

00:25:15.420 I would say it's an apologetic to the gospel.

00:25:19.460 It's the evidence.

00:25:20.600 It's the miracles.

00:25:21.940 You know, Jesus did miracles.

00:25:23.040 It was the pre-evangelistic miracles that brought people to go, wow, like this is amazing.

00:25:30.060 And when you're holy, people notice.

00:25:33.160 And for some of you, being holy in some parts of the world will cost you your life.

00:25:38.720 And here in Western culture, it might cost you your job or cost you being liked.

00:25:44.880 Sometimes it might even lead to conversion from another brother that you planted a seed with

00:25:49.620 or a conversation about the gospel.

00:25:53.040 um but we are regardless of what it means wherever you're at we're called to present

00:26:01.280 his redeeming work his holiness to the world so as we close out today i know it can be very difficult

00:26:08.740 to create something that you've never seen or walk out something that you've never seen i know

00:26:15.420 This is true for us for parenting, for marriage, you know, community church.

00:26:23.840 There's, I've been diving into a lot of Puritan works and reading about the Puritans.

00:26:30.820 And I don't agree with everything the Puritans did, but I agree with a lot of what the Puritans did.

00:26:35.600 And they were given that name Puritan as a mocking term because they were, you know, trying to purify themselves.

00:26:44.100 living their entire lives to the glory of God.

00:26:47.800 Well, there's a really great publisher

00:26:50.220 that we're working with

00:26:52.160 and we're trying to just introduce our audience

00:26:56.740 to, I guess, a layer above the normal publisher

00:27:01.640 because there's a lot of publishers out there 0.99

00:27:04.200 that are just publishing entertaining crap. 0.96

00:27:08.120 Things that are literally devotionals 0.98

00:27:11.060 that make me feel good about me

00:27:12.560 instead of making God exalted, you know, and if you want to go read really rich, dense material,

00:27:20.660 there's some great publishers out there, and we're going to do that over the next couple months, but

00:27:23.600 the first publisher that we're working with is Reformation Heritage Publishing. It's just

00:27:29.340 heritagebooks.org, and they have a great collection of really awesome books on the Puritans and

00:27:39.600 And some really old stuff from the 1600s and 1700s.

00:27:44.420 So I wanted you guys to check that out.

00:27:49.300 Heritagebooks.org.

00:27:51.200 Okay.

00:27:53.160 Last announcements.

00:27:55.200 Why don't you close us out about reviews?

00:27:56.480 You've never done the reviews.

00:27:57.700 You can do it, though.

00:27:58.280 You've heard me say it a thousand times.

00:28:00.100 If you're a regular listener and this show has blessed you in some way,

00:28:04.020 if you could go ahead and leave us a review.

00:28:06.480 You don't have to say anything.

00:28:07.700 You can go ahead and just top the stars.

00:28:09.000 But if you do write something, Dale will read it.

00:28:11.820 I will read it.

00:28:13.580 Guys, for those of you that have left reviews and written a review, man, they like break

00:28:17.840 my heart sometimes.

00:28:18.620 They're just like, oh, these are so, in a good way.

00:28:20.660 I read the ones that Dale sends me.

00:28:21.560 I don't read them usually.

00:28:23.060 Yeah.

00:28:23.320 Dale reads them.

00:28:24.220 Yeah.

00:28:24.700 So anyways, thank you guys.

00:28:26.160 And again, also, if you are interested in picking up a copy of my new book, just go

00:28:30.580 to relearnchurch.org forward slash RC and also our marriage program again at ultimatemarriage.com.

00:28:37.120 Well, guys, we will see you next Wednesday.

00:28:39.900 Take care.

Dale Partridge - September 11, 2019

Real Christianity #62： The Missing Element of Modern Christianity

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