Dale Partridge - April 29, 2020


Real Christianity #95： How Should Christians Navigate Politics？


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00:00:00.000 Welcome to Real Christianity. Today, we are talking about how should Christians navigate 0.99
00:00:06.300 politics. And as you guys have noticed, Veronica is not with us today. We are still in the middle
00:00:11.960 of this coronavirus pandemic, which is prohibited babysitting. And we're trying to do at least
00:00:18.040 every other show going forward. So she was on the show last week. We had a great conversation,
00:00:23.080 If you've missed that episode about how to properly deal with online haters, persecutors, and enemies.
00:00:32.520 Next week, we will have her back on the show.
00:00:35.240 If you're new to the podcast, welcome.
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00:00:48.660 A few things, if you're watching today's episode on YouTube, all these episodes are available on YouTube.
00:00:55.860 I do have my notes here. I have my computer up here with me today as I review some of my notes from our conversation this evening.
00:01:03.840 A few things I want to mention before we dive into this important topic is we just released an anti-pornography course or a how to quit pornography course, how to be set free from the bondage of pornography.
00:01:15.940 This is a plague on the church today.
00:01:20.160 We have launched it maybe not even two weeks ago now,
00:01:24.560 and we've had over 100 people go through the program,
00:01:28.200 and actually about 30% of them are women.
00:01:32.960 And so for men and women alike,
00:01:35.140 if you are struggling with the bondage and sin of viewing pornography,
00:01:40.300 we have put together a simple gospel-centered program
00:01:43.660 that's available for you at standinvictory.org.
00:01:48.520 Again, you can go there at standinvictory.org.
00:01:52.820 It's an affordable program.
00:01:54.560 It's three simple videos with three simple PDFs,
00:01:57.800 and the testimonials are crazy.
00:02:00.700 People are talking about it,
00:02:03.200 and it's just, it's made me actually tear up and cry.
00:02:07.900 And it's not me.
00:02:09.060 It's the gospel that's being preached.
00:02:10.920 There's power in the word of God.
00:02:12.560 It's sharper than any two-edged sword. It's living and powerful.
00:02:16.360 We know these truths, and they work in setting us free from the bondage of pornography.
00:02:22.260 Also, if you are looking to explore the idea of house church,
00:02:28.500 the coronavirus pandemic has definitely put us in a situation as a culture and a church
00:02:34.340 to explore the idea of meeting in smaller groups.
00:02:37.880 I released an article at stjustins.org forward slash coronavirus, and I talk about this idea of smaller will be viewed as safer.
00:02:48.280 And I think that we're already seeing that trend. Many people are asking us, how do we plant a house church?
00:02:53.940 What does a house church look like? If you want to download a free PDF on the basics of biblical house church, you can do so at relearnchurch.org forward slash house.
00:03:04.720 You can also buy my new book, House Church, which talks about the doctrines and the convictions and the liturgy of a house church, meaning how does an actual church meet in a home?
00:03:16.600 What does it look like to have the traditional church doctrine played out in a small environment with a few families in a house?
00:03:23.480 And that short book, it's only $12.99 on our site, is available for you guys as well.
00:03:29.020 The last thing I'm going to make a request for is prayer for us.
00:03:33.060 We've been for probably the last several years walking through my son who has some sort of breathing issue.
00:03:42.340 He has either asthma or he has some sort of what's called a subglottic stenosis potentially, which is a narrowing of the trachea.
00:03:50.720 It makes it difficult to breathe when he gets sick.
00:03:53.020 And so, yes, in the middle of this pandemic, it's definitely been he is a respiratory compromised individual.
00:03:59.640 We had to take him into the hospital.
00:04:02.360 For those of you that follow along on Instagram, you saw in December and in January where we almost lost him on one occasion because of his closing trachea.
00:04:14.700 We are doing a procedure in the upcoming week to view what's going on down there.
00:04:21.420 And we would just ask for prayer.
00:04:23.680 I don't know why I haven't done that already, but I'm asking now, if you are listening to this, would you guys lift up our son, his name's Honor, that we would have answers and that we would have healing and that we would have a path forward.
00:04:38.400 It's very difficult for us as a family to be in pastoral ministry and really limit this quarantine life, guys,
00:04:43.940 has been kind of how we've been living since January,
00:04:47.180 where we're being very careful about who can be around because if any one of our children gets sick,
00:04:53.320 it puts honor at risk for being in the hospital.
00:04:56.220 And so we just ask for your prayers on that issue as we are approaching some opportunities
00:05:05.200 that might give us some answers or some paths forward.
00:05:09.140 Okay, so I'm going to talk to you guys about a question that came in,
00:05:14.100 and I think it's an important question about Christians and politics.
00:05:17.820 He says, Dale, it's very easy to get swept up into politics today.
00:05:22.840 It seems like it's all around us.
00:05:25.040 As Christians, how should we be thinking about politics?
00:05:28.980 Are we called to get involved or to put our efforts elsewhere?
00:05:33.000 All right. So lots of people have given thoughtful answers to this question. Timothy Keller wrote a really great op-ed, New York Times piece in 2018. It was titled, How do Christians fit into the two-party system? They don't.
00:05:49.300 I thought it was a catchy title there. John Piper released an interview titled, Why Does Piper Avoid Politics and What's Trending? He was talking about why is he not in there having major political conversations from the pulpit.
00:06:04.480 And there seems to be kind of an interesting trend among established leaders, say Piper and MacArthur and Timothy Keller and Ravi Zacharias, that they don't talk much about politics, at least on a grand scale, not that they are not approaching political issues, but politics is definitely not the center of their ministries.
00:06:26.220 And so, you know, people are asking, what's my opinion on the matter?
00:06:30.140 Now, I am not going to give an opinion likely as wise as Piper or Keller.
00:06:37.120 I don't think that I have the wisdom that those men do.
00:06:39.880 But I will offer my perspective on the matter that it might be helpful and edifying and fruitful for you guys that are caught up in the storm of politics, especially on social media, the news and in times like we're living right now.
00:06:54.660 So, I just want to get this out of the way.
00:06:57.580 Politics are a religion.
00:07:00.640 It's a very real place of worship and idolatry for many people.
00:07:05.240 This is a very real thing.
00:07:07.240 You've seen people that are obsessive about these things. 0.83
00:07:10.020 And even many Christians are trying to serve the world system in an obsession with politics.
00:07:16.560 You know, it might not seem like an obsession from the outside, 0.80
00:07:19.480 or you might not even recognize it as an obsession,
00:07:21.600 But when you look at the amount of time spent reading articles, scrolling the Internet, watching the news, it can very easily become an obsession.
00:07:31.140 And I can't tell you how many Christians I've actually watched waste precious time allowing themselves to get sucked into the distraction of politics.
00:07:41.580 This is a very real thing, not just in the world, but also in the church.
00:07:45.960 And to the Christian, I've seen politics become kind of a trap for people, a place to go. 0.67
00:07:53.260 It's like a child who looks at a merry-go-round. 0.96
00:07:57.860 It's flashy.
00:07:58.660 It's beautiful.
00:07:59.340 It's intriguing, right?
00:08:01.320 But in reality, when you get on, it just takes you in a circle.
00:08:05.860 And not only does it just take you in a circle over and over again, but it actually shifts your focus from you're not paying attention to anything that's around you.
00:08:13.720 You're only paying attention to what's on the merry-go-round.
00:08:16.860 And so you're just going around and circle and circle again. 0.80
00:08:20.480 And that becomes a very dangerous posture to take as a Christian when your focus is circular.
00:08:26.760 And it is also just on the issues that you're focused on.
00:08:32.080 Now, I'm not anti-politics.
00:08:34.220 I read the news probably about 10 minutes a day.
00:08:36.940 I try to give a little bit of my time to understand what's happening in our world.
00:08:42.760 I'm a part of a group of faith leaders who meet at the White House a few times per year.
00:08:48.700 I'm even willing to participate in what many people think are political discussions,
00:08:53.540 but in reality, they're actually theological discussions.
00:08:56.960 For example, the legality of life, the definition of marriage,
00:08:59.940 the intrinsic biblical rights of parents over having authority over their children.
00:09:04.940 These things might seem like they're political, but in reality, they are theological issues.
00:09:09.700 I also believe that Christians should vote
00:09:12.960 So this is something that I want you to
00:09:14.680 I'm prefacing here to give you guys some context
00:09:17.300 About what I'm going to say here in a minute
00:09:19.320 Proverbs 29.2 says
00:09:21.360 When the righteous are in authority
00:09:23.260 The people rejoice
00:09:24.460 But when a wicked man rules
00:09:26.300 The people groan
00:09:27.460 And for those of us in the United States
00:09:29.360 We have the freedom
00:09:31.320 To vote and our voice matters
00:09:34.720 And it actually counts
00:09:35.920 And we should use that ability and that freedom
00:09:38.640 to vote for those who stand for the principles and virtues that are upheld in the scriptures.
00:09:46.200 So that's something that we are called to do, and I am absolutely for.
00:09:50.800 But what many people don't realize is that the church actually is a political effort in itself.
00:09:58.860 Now, not in the political definition that we have today,
00:10:02.280 but it is a political effort in terms of Jesus says that he's coming to establish a kingdom where he will rule and he will reign
00:10:13.320 and eventually every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that he is Lord and King, right?
00:10:19.740 So there is a political element established to the church's mission here on earth.
00:10:25.420 Philippians 3.20 says,
00:10:28.000 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ.
00:10:36.120 The word citizenship in the Greek is a word called politjuma.
00:10:40.160 And it's where we get the word police, it's where we get the word politics.
00:10:44.260 In other words, the scripture is really saying, for our politics are in heaven.
00:10:49.300 The word politjuma also means constitution or governing philosophy.
00:10:54.340 This is kind of what you would see in a scriptural usage, but we're to derive our moral constitution based off of the politics or the political system that's in heaven, not the political system that's here on earth.
00:11:09.680 And so this is just a shift in focus of where our citizenship is.
00:11:14.420 It doesn't deny that we have political responsibilities in an earthly sense.
00:11:20.000 Jesus says, hey, give to Caesar what is Caesar's.
00:11:22.440 But it does say that the priority and the heart of it is that our political system should reside in heaven.
00:11:30.480 If we're not careful, it's pretty easy that we might forget that, you know, it's not conservative or Republican politics that say that abortion is wrong.
00:11:42.200 It's the politics of heaven.
00:11:44.140 It's not conservative or Republican politics that say that marriage is between a man or a woman.
00:11:49.820 These are the decrees or the statements or the declarations of our king who is in heaven.
00:11:57.060 So these are politics from heaven.
00:11:59.680 That's where our citizenship should be resting. 0.53
00:12:03.960 And so all Christians are politicians at some degree, if you're catching what I'm saying here. 0.94
00:12:09.840 The question you have to ask yourself is, where do you want to focus your efforts as a Christian? 0.96
00:12:15.100 Where do you want to focus your efforts?
00:12:16.800 Do you want to fight against socialism and the wage gap?
00:12:20.760 Or do you want to preach the truth that changes hearts, that gives wisdom, that saves families and marriages and kills off addiction,
00:12:27.300 that gives spiritual power and sets people free and heals hearts and restores relationships and raises a generation of God's people?
00:12:34.640 Which one do you want to focus on?
00:12:36.420 And I don't want to necessarily throw the first one out of the window here.
00:12:40.340 And I think I'm going to make some more sense of that as we move on here.
00:12:43.240 But I love what John Piper said on the matter.
00:12:45.700 He says, I am 100 times more passionate about creating the kind of Christians and the kind of churches that stand with unshaken, faithful, biblical, countercultural, spiritual mindedness in a socialist America than I am in preventing a socialist America.
00:13:05.640 My calling isn't to help America be anything.
00:13:09.180 My calling is to help the church be the church.
00:13:12.720 Now, this is coming from a pastor.
00:13:14.580 This is coming from a man who has a clear calling, but I love that perspective that he's saying.
00:13:19.160 They're basically like me.
00:13:20.160 Piper believes the spiritual status and health, the spiritual health of a person is immeasurably more valuable and more important than the fleeting bantering of social political discussions, which there are many if you are not paying attention to the news.
00:13:37.560 And as Christians, we often forget that time is a very limited resource
00:13:41.220 and that we are called to steward every single minute of our time to the glory of God.
00:13:48.380 Every single minute of our time to the glory of God.
00:13:50.920 That should make you be very careful with how you use your time every single day.
00:13:56.480 Matthew 9, 36-38, Jesus talks about this idea, and I'm going to break it down here in a second.
00:14:03.660 He says,
00:14:03.880 But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion for them because they were weary and scattered like sheep having no shepherd.
00:14:12.840 Then he said to the disciples, the harvest truly is plentiful, but the laborers are few.
00:14:19.620 Therefore, pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest.
00:14:25.020 In 1615, I actually have this, if you're watching this on YouTube, there's a poster right back here that I have this quote printed on.
00:14:33.740 It's from George Swinock.
00:14:35.620 He's a Puritan from the 1600s, 1615.
00:14:39.520 He wrote this quote.
00:14:40.720 He says, the time is short, the task is large, and the work is important.
00:14:45.780 Basically, he's aligning with what Jesus is saying here is that the harvest is plentiful,
00:14:50.900 the laborers are few.
00:14:52.440 Time is short, the task is large, the work is important.
00:14:55.760 And again, basically, your life is fleeting.
00:14:58.120 The Great Commission is massive.
00:14:59.600 It's incredibly important, and it's the most important work on earth.
00:15:04.820 That's the heart posture we need to remember.
00:15:07.980 It's just the base foundation of what we're about to talk about here.
00:15:11.700 Where do you want to spend your time?
00:15:14.320 Where do you want to spend your time?
00:15:15.860 The time is short, the task is large, and the work is important.
00:15:20.120 Where do you want to spend your time?
00:15:22.840 Let me give you an example.
00:15:24.000 it's a very difficult task to reach a point of genuine intellect and understanding and authority
00:15:35.720 to make any difference in the socio-political landscape you'd have to spend a lot of time
00:15:41.840 studying the issues and the matters if you wanted to make i would say even a microscopic
00:15:47.460 dent in the political culture. It would require you likely to dedicate your entire life to
00:15:54.120 it. Now, sure, there's been a handful of godly politicians over the centuries, right? We
00:16:00.420 have Martin Luther King Jr. in recent times. We have Abraham Lincoln. We have John Adams
00:16:06.700 who have made huge, massive impacts in the political arena. They've dedicated their lives
00:16:13.760 to that. But there's also, in addition to those men, in addition across history, especially modern
00:16:21.460 history, there's been thousands upon thousands of Christian political busy bees that have dedicated
00:16:27.560 their lives to politics. And when their work sits on the scales, you know, the scales of life,
00:16:33.840 the scales of spiritual worth, they're going to amount to little. They're going to amount to
00:16:40.300 little. And I think that's, again, people getting caught in the distraction, the merry-go-round
00:16:44.120 of politics, when in reality, they haven't been focusing on what really matters. They've been
00:16:49.040 caught up in the things that don't matter. It's a trap. It's a distraction for many,
00:16:53.120 and we need to be aware of that. Our goal is to not make sure that people know the political
00:17:00.100 issues. It's to know that they know God. Charles Spurgeon says this great quote. He says,
00:17:04.640 if men do not find God, they have found nothing. If men do not find God, they have found nothing.
00:17:09.120 That needs to be something that sinks deep into the seat of your heart right there.
00:17:13.340 So the question becomes pretty clear.
00:17:16.420 Is it more valuable to spend my life, your life, studying politics to add to the world system?
00:17:25.040 Or is it wiser to spend those decades studying the scriptures that are able to make one wise unto salvation
00:17:31.080 and useful for God's means that I might lead people to Christ?
00:17:34.640 And can you do both? Potentially.
00:17:36.740 So if you're in politics full-time, you feel God called you into politics, please hear me.
00:17:42.780 I'm not throwing you out there.
00:17:44.960 But whatever you say yes to, you are inevitably saying no to something else.
00:17:50.860 And by pursuing a life of political obsession, which many people do in a passive and irresponsible way,
00:17:57.980 you're saying no to a life of scriptural study.
00:18:01.240 okay all the time that people spend zoning out on twitter and reading the headlines and
00:18:08.260 getting into the argumentation reading that listening to the the news and the political
00:18:13.240 commentators every time you say yes to that for some sort of infotainment that your your flesh
00:18:19.320 desires you are saying no to scriptural study that again has more power and usefulness in the
00:18:26.660 commission that the Lord has given you as a member of part of as a member of the church sorry
00:18:32.260 the the church often um forgets this truth and this is something that's really important here
00:18:39.340 is that politics follow the culture and as Christians it's our job to change the culture
00:18:45.480 which will result in a change of politics okay that that is a very important principle right
00:18:51.620 there. Our job, don't go fight in the politics arena. Go fight in the cultural arena. Change
00:18:59.480 hearts, which change the culture. And then when you change the culture, you change the
00:19:03.760 politics. It's going upstream and dealing with the matters upstream of the heart and
00:19:09.800 letting those things float down the river into the political issues of the day. John
00:19:13.880 Piper talks about this in his episode of his interview regarding why he focuses on
00:19:19.860 these spiritual matters versus these lower stream political matters. So I'm not saying
00:19:25.180 that we are to be checked out and apathetic in regarding politics. I'm not saying Christians
00:19:31.000 should not dedicate their lives to a godly fight for righteousness in a political environment.
00:19:37.380 But I am saying if Christians were as passionate about the gospel as they are about social justice
00:19:42.760 or political hot topics or anything else, would it make more of an eternal impact?
00:19:48.940 Yes. Yes.
00:19:50.420 The thing is, is that many Christians in the church are more obsessed about the politics
00:19:54.240 than they are about the gospel.
00:19:55.800 And that's the heart of the matter.
00:19:57.360 And that's what we're talking about today.
00:19:58.700 You need to do some self-examination there.
00:20:01.060 Is that, are you more passionate?
00:20:02.560 Do you dedicate more of your time to looking and listening to the sociopolitical firestorm out there
00:20:10.420 than you do studying the Word of God, preparing yourself to give a defense and an answer for the hope that is in you,
00:20:16.660 and explaining the gospel, proclaiming the gospel, preaching the gospel to anybody that's around you.
00:20:21.800 You've got to examine your heart.
00:20:23.880 And some of you guys might be going, I don't even watch the news. What are you talking about, Dale?
00:20:27.300 Praise the Lord.
00:20:29.000 But some of you guys are in this camp that I'm talking to that are very obsessed,
00:20:33.240 especially in times like today, where it seems like we need to be paying attention every single second
00:20:38.320 because things are changing from local, state, and federal government.
00:20:43.880 Now, in 2 Corinthians, I want to talk about a verse here.
00:20:47.220 It's chapter 10, verses 3 through 5.
00:20:49.120 Paul's saying something very powerful about how we should be thinking about this.
00:20:52.380 He says,
00:21:08.320 Okay, so the Christian fights the injustice of the world,
00:21:19.240 not the way that the world fights the injustice of the world.
00:21:23.220 Okay, we fight it in a different way.
00:21:24.720 We fight it through prayer and preaching and proclamation of the gospel.
00:21:28.840 That's the way that we fight.
00:21:30.380 Now, should we vote for candidates who stand up for issues of righteousness in the political arena?
00:21:38.160 Absolutely, right?
00:21:39.880 Should we be aware of our political landscape?
00:21:43.040 Absolutely.
00:21:44.380 Scripture says that you should be praying for these political leaders regularly.
00:21:49.140 Our church does this, our little house church.
00:21:51.020 We get together and we pray regularly for the political leaders.
00:21:54.880 We know the names of our mayors and our state representatives
00:21:57.740 and for the people that are in power at the federal level.
00:22:01.720 We pray for those people regularly.
00:22:03.460 You should be doing that too.
00:22:05.600 But our war is not fought by political debate.
00:22:09.020 Our war is not fought by getting into some sort of argument over a political issue.
00:22:15.760 Okay, our war is fought by the proclamation, the preaching, and the prayer of the saints.
00:22:22.680 That's our focus.
00:22:24.680 Okay, Jesus, as you know, calls us to follow him.
00:22:28.840 And this is a man who was surrounded by gigantic political figures.
00:22:33.540 If you're talking, you know, history here, Pharisees, philosophers, and he viewed all of these individuals as participants in the world system.
00:22:43.640 He played by all the rules, but he never got deeply involved.
00:22:48.960 Okay, he was not interested about getting involved in fixing the broken system.
00:22:55.100 He was interested in planting a seed that would overthrow the system.
00:23:00.760 That was the mission, and that's exactly what happened when the seed was planted with the resurrection of Christ and the eventual overtaking of the Roman Empire that killed him.
00:23:17.800 It's amazing.
00:23:20.480 He was so good about not getting distracted in the tiny political battles so that he wouldn't lose focus on the war.
00:23:29.520 and we can learn something from that.
00:23:32.020 Let's not get focused in the tiny little battles.
00:23:33.960 Let's go back for the jugular.
00:23:36.320 You know what the jugular is?
00:23:37.460 It's the gospel preaching to the heart
00:23:39.540 that the Lord might change and transform somebody
00:23:42.320 to rebirth and bring them into eyes
00:23:45.200 that can see and ears that can hear
00:23:46.940 so that they would change from the inside out.
00:23:50.240 And you know what would happen?
00:23:51.460 They would change their political opinion
00:23:53.060 because the illumination of the scriptures
00:23:55.160 by the Holy Spirit would change their hearts
00:23:57.100 and give them knowledge
00:23:58.400 and it would adjust the way that they live.
00:24:01.780 Okay, we see this again in Jesus.
00:24:04.160 He bypasses all the civic opportunities
00:24:07.440 and he focuses his efforts on the spiritual opportunities
00:24:10.340 and because of that,
00:24:13.160 creates the greatest impact the world has ever seen.
00:24:16.100 Okay, so we got a guy, Jesus,
00:24:18.740 who, yes, is God in the flesh,
00:24:21.060 but is also a man who overtakes
00:24:24.320 and makes the greatest impact
00:24:25.480 and he's not involved in politics,
00:24:26.780 Yet some of us want to get deeply involved in politics to make change.
00:24:30.900 We should look at our Savior's example about how he created impact and take note.
00:24:37.020 We should take note.
00:24:39.100 If you want to stand at the top of your life and go,
00:24:44.220 Lord, by your grace I have served you, and by your grace I have seen many people come to you,
00:24:49.780 you want to hear those words, well done, good and faithful servant,
00:24:54.120 then I say
00:24:55.880 don't get distracted
00:24:57.960 by politics
00:25:00.320 don't get distracted by politics
00:25:04.320 focus on the war
00:25:06.280 focus on the Great Commission
00:25:08.720 change the culture with the gospel
00:25:11.280 watch less news
00:25:12.880 read more of the Bible
00:25:15.240 sit and pray
00:25:16.880 and ask the Lord to use you
00:25:19.280 to further the boundaries
00:25:21.120 and borders of His
00:25:22.960 kingdom that's that's my hope that's my call for you guys if you are struggling with an obsession
00:25:31.720 with the politics come back to the heart of the commission again there's nothing wrong with a
00:25:38.900 calling if you're called there but your priority even in that calling should be the gospel and so
00:25:46.140 in the midst of this coronavirus pandemic and all the things that are happening around us
00:25:49.560 remember that the Lord is in control
00:25:53.120 and that our mission doesn't change
00:25:54.940 just because the political
00:25:57.140 environment has changed. We are here
00:25:58.980 to preach the gospel
00:26:00.520 and to make disciples of all nations
00:26:03.260 and baptize in the name of the Father, the
00:26:05.200 Son, and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey
00:26:07.180 all that he commanded.
00:26:10.500 Amen.
00:26:11.860 Amen. Hopefully that was helpful
00:26:13.100 for you guys. So I wanted
00:26:15.120 to just remind
00:26:17.340 you guys about the things that I mentioned
00:26:19.240 in the beginning of the show.
00:26:21.980 Just a few things.
00:26:23.020 One of them specifically is important.
00:26:24.700 If you are struggling
00:26:26.380 in the bondage to pornography,
00:26:28.120 again, I just want you to go
00:26:29.120 to standinvictory.org.
00:26:30.880 If for some reason you can't afford it,
00:26:32.960 there's a little note there.
00:26:34.100 You can email us
00:26:34.880 and we would love to bless you
00:26:36.220 if you can't afford
00:26:37.700 to go through the program.
00:26:39.880 It is an affordable price,
00:26:41.740 and it does support our ministry.
00:26:43.940 It all goes to our nonprofit.
00:26:46.040 But if you can't afford it,
00:26:47.080 we don't want money
00:26:48.180 to prevent you from being able to look at the truths of Scripture
00:26:53.700 regarding sexual immorality and the freedom from that bondage of sin.
00:26:57.920 Also, if you get a chance to go to relearnchurch.org forward slash house,
00:27:03.640 that's where you can also get more information about planting
00:27:06.200 or starting and becoming a part of a biblical house church.
00:27:10.040 On that note, guys, thank you guys for joining.
00:27:12.060 Hopefully this episode on navigating politics was helpful for you guys.
00:27:15.280 We will see you guys, hopefully with Veronica, next week.
00:27:18.880 Take care.