00:08:37.360And so there's a large centuries-long debate.
00:08:41.360I would say this debate probably started maybe when the Lord, you know, instituted the Lord's Supper all the way till now.
00:08:51.160So this has been going on for a long time.
00:08:53.220There's a huge debate over whether communion transforms into the literal body and blood of Jesus or if the bread and wine symbolically represent the body and blood of Jesus.
00:09:07.540And so the literal interpretation is called transubstantiation.
00:09:11.880It's a big word, right? Transubstantiation.
00:09:14.860And it's how the Catholic Church views communion.
00:09:18.740I've actually seen, not in person, but pictures of stories about nuns who pray over spilt communion wine on the carpet because they really believe it's the literal blood of Jesus.
00:09:34.100um but additionally you know so that's that's how how literal i'm talking about here um the
00:09:43.540catholic church also refers to communion um as a sacrament um they would never refer to it as an
00:09:50.720ordinance how you would generally see that in the protestant church but uh a a sacrament like a
00:09:57.820means of grace and in comparison to an ordinance, which is really a spiritual act that was delivered
00:10:06.260by Christ, but symbolic in nature. And I think there's really two of those acts, right? There's
00:10:12.960baptism and there's the Lord's Supper, where the Catholic Church has several sacraments. I believe
00:10:20.040there's seven sacraments in the Catholic Church. And so there's some divide over these issues as
00:10:25.820well. The Protestant Church, that is the group that protested against the Catholic Church,
00:10:32.200that's why we have the name the Protestant, or the protesting party during the Reformation in
00:10:37.920the 1500s, they hold to, and I hold to, the symbolic interpretation, and here's why. So just
00:10:46.020because Jesus said, this is my body and this is my blood, doesn't necessarily mean that this is to
00:10:52.520be taken literally. I believe Dr. Keith Matheson, he did a really great video from Ligonier,
00:11:00.620explains this really well. And he does this by holding up his hand and he said,
00:11:05.160this is my hand, which is a literal statement, right? This is my hand. It's a literal statement.
00:11:10.160But next he held up a picture of his hand and said, this is my hand. And that's obviously a
00:11:16.520figurative statement. But, you know, nobody knows just off those specific words of Jesus what he
00:11:25.580really meant. Was he saying this is my literal body? Was he saying this is a symbolic part of
00:11:32.460my body? You know, this is the big question. And I think the only way to gain insight into this
00:11:39.920is to look at the biblical context of when he said it,
00:11:52.380So Jesus initiates this act, the Lord's Supper,
00:11:58.460during Passover, at the Passover meal,
00:12:02.380shortly before his arrest and his journey to the cross.
00:12:04.540Um, Protestant theologians believe Jesus was basically leveraging the Passover night
00:12:12.400to display how he is the true Passover lamb.
00:12:18.160I mean, if you guys have read John recently, you know, in John chapter one, verse 29, John
00:12:23.520the Baptist says this famous line, behold, the lamb of God who takes away the sins of
00:12:28.620the world. So he's already been declared the Lamb of God in his ministry at this point.
00:12:36.480And like the spotless lamb's blood that when painted on the doorposts in Egypt in the story
00:12:41.540of Exodus that freed the Jews from physical death, Jesus is now inaugurating a new Passover-like
00:12:52.260experience how his blood in this new covenant will free you from eternal death. When we remember
00:13:02.880this and we then look at the Passover meal that was commanded to be observed again by the Torah,
00:13:09.440we see that there's a theme and the theme is symbolic and not literal. So I want you guys
00:13:14.900to kind of put on your Jewish history hats here for a second. Think back to the Passover and0.86
00:13:19.700Exodus. Think back to actually the instruction to keep the Passover meal every year. And why did
00:13:28.220we have to keep that Passover meal? Why did the Jews have to do that? Well, it's because it was1.00
00:13:33.160a memorial, right? It was an act of memorial of remembrance. And for example, during the Passover
00:13:40.100meal, the Jews were to eat salty and bitter herbs as a way to remind them symbolically0.69
00:13:48.500of the sweat and slave labor that they were freed from by God and by the blood of the lamb that was
00:13:58.020posted over the doorpost. The matzah, the unleavened bread that they have during a Passover
00:14:03.980meal was a reminder of their inability to fully bake bread because they had to leave quickly,
00:14:12.640their speedy requirement to leave Egypt. And so there's six foods in the Passover meal,
00:14:19.600and each of them have a symbolic meaning. You can actually Google it and look at their
00:14:24.340symbolic meanings. But again, they were symbolic and not literal. So God is a God of creating
00:14:32.080memorial acts, right? There's altars that were built. There's acts, physical activities that
00:14:40.000give us spiritual truths. Baptism, obviously, is another one of those.
00:14:48.380But nobody believed that the salty and bitter water was actually sweat, like literally sweat1.00
00:14:55.140and tears of the Jews in Egypt. And in the same way, the bread and the cup, in my opinion,0.99
00:15:01.240and in the Protestant perspective are not the literal body and blood of Jesus,
00:15:06.520but there's a symbolic picture of the body and blood that freed us from the slavery of sin.
00:15:14.780And so Jesus replaced the symbolic Passover meal of the Old Covenant
00:15:20.320with the ordinance of communion under the New Covenant.
00:15:24.440He talks about how this is the blood of the New Covenant.0.58
00:15:28.620And in the same way, the Jews, again, memorialize that freedom from physical slavery and death through the blood of the Passover lamb, we are to remember and proclaim what God has done for us through Christ in the new covenant, Passover lamb.
00:15:44.160And so that's why when you look at this exegetically, you break down the history, the context, it makes more sense for this to be a symbolic thing because it aligns with God's character historically.
00:16:00.280And so that's one part, like a drop in Crater Lake, right?
00:16:06.960Of just, you can spend lots of time looking over literalism versus symbolism, but there's
00:17:22.000You remember him saying, take off your shoes for you stand on holy ground.
00:17:26.800He made a portion holy, special, set apart.
00:17:32.120In the same way, Jesus consecrated bread, and he does this, he talks about it, he calls
00:17:40.580himself the bread of life, and we see bread in the picture of feeding the 5,000.
00:17:47.500We see it, obviously, in the Lord's Supper, breaking bread.
00:17:49.940Jesus consecrated bread and the fruit of the vine for use during communion.
00:17:59.320In other words, he set these two specific elements apart and made them holy.
00:18:07.380And by that, really, he granted these specific elements the ability to fulfill a spiritual purpose that other elements cannot.
00:18:16.700So there's way more you can discuss about that, but basically recognizing that these things are holy.
00:18:24.240And if you're partaking in communion, they should be done with bread and with fruit of the vine.
00:18:33.200Number three, the last point I'm going to make here is really just this beautiful connection between food, freedom, and our spiritual life.
00:18:42.440God is so good, and you're going to see here in a minute
00:18:45.160about how he's building in these beautiful parallels in our life